Decide To Try Podcast With Rickie G. Rush

Faith, Legacy & Leadership: A Conversation with Carolyn Hayden-Garner

• Rickie G. Rush • Season 1 • Episode 2

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In this electrifying episode of Decide To Try, Pastor Rickie G. Rush sits down with powerhouse executive and nonprofit founder Carolyn Hayden-Garner, who shares her remarkable journey from humble beginnings to becoming Tesla's highest-ranking African-American executive. Garner opens up about the miraculous survival of her daughter, the faith that anchors her, and her mission to empower mothers and change generational legacies through education. With raw honesty and divine insight, this conversation is a call to purpose, resilience, and excellence.

✨ Whether you're a parent, leader, or someone who's been tempted to quit—this episode will reignite your passion to press forward, decide to try, and leave a lasting legacy.

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Well, everybody, here we are with another episode of Decided to Try with Rickie G. Rush. Listen, Jesus said to Peter, you can walk on water just like I can because you chose to walk on water. So Peter did it, but he didn't do it until he decided to try. You don't fail. You don't succeed. You don't do anything if you don't try.

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So today on, the decided to Try podcast, we have an extraordinary guest. Her name is Carolyn Gardner. She is amazing. She is a, an executive with Tesla. She's a wonderful mom, awesome grandmother, dynamite wife, great friend, gift to our community, and a friend of Iboshi. We've had a lot of discussions about where are we going in our future with education.

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And for someone who has the wisdom and knowledge and the hands on experience with dealing with people who, let me just say, if a person was blind and someone had to lead them, you would want the person to lead the blind who has knowledge of where they're going and the wisdom to make the blind person trust them. Their place.

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Not too many people that we meet that we can say, okay, don't just tell me what you know. Show me how to keep up at the pace that I'm going. Kevin Garner is an extraordinary guest of ours today, and she has a wonderful, personal kind of a ministry that she does. And she's going to talk to us about that.

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Now, to all of you that are listening to the podcast today, just remember this. Sometimes you meet people and you know them by what they do. And other times you are introduced to people and you learn about who they are, but they're no longer existent. We are blessed today, honored today to have on our podcast, Sister Carolyn Garner, who has been an inspiration to me, so much so that we had to stop, bring you this episode, watch your life become inspired and changed as you give this podcast a chance today to help someone else decide to try.

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So let's welcome, our wonderful in-house guest who's going to tell us all about a lot of different things are we're going to be all over the place here in the next few minutes, so stay tuned. Have someone else to to subscribe today. Try to share this with as many people as possible. And, let's just let's just see what we can do.

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Welcome. Carolyn Garnett, tell us a little bit about yourself. Wow. Well, thank you so much for that warm introduction. And I just have to say it's, oh, God. I don't even know where to begin other than in my life has been a journey that has really unfolded before. Many people, born in Arkansas, went to Grambling State University, spent 33 years in Dallas, Texas.

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For the last seven years I've been in Utah working for what I know is a little bit of amazing company, which we're still number one in the industry regardless of what people say. But the most important thing is, is that God gave me a nonprofit several years ago, and, I've found that this nonprofit and the purpose of this nonprofit is to enlighten, empower and encourage, especially mothers.

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We have a program, seeds of Hope, where we really focus on education, which I am a proponent of because I know what it means to come out of an environment where, the odds are against you. And so you're looking at someone who literally had a 14 on their A.C.T. test, and God allowed me to go into Grambling State University, and I graduated magna cum laude.

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And today, I'm just proud to say that because of who I am, I am the most senior African-American person at Tesla. So no matter what you see that's going on in the world today, God still has some people position and poise to be able to help people in America. And so, one of the things that I want to just just commend you on in our conversation is about your commitment to community, your commitment to people, your commitment to education, and most of all, your commitment to God and so you have really shown me that.

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They used to say when I was when I went to Israel a few years ago and we went to Nazareth, they say, is anything good that can come out of here? Well, I have that over here in the Oak Cliff area. I had no idea of how much private equity was around this community. And I have to tell you, Pastor Russ, that there is something good that has not only come out of this area, but has developed this area, and it is the best known secret to people there, really, that it has been a blessing, a tremendous blessing, and my heart has just been overwhelmed with the vision, the visionary and the progress that

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I've seen in this community and the lives that I have personally talked to today. That has been changed because you said yes to the Kingdom. But you know what? Very seldom am I speechless. There are people who talk the talk and walk that walk. And just to know that you have a nonprofit to inspire women, mothers.

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Gosh, I don't think there's much that some that a mother would want then to know that her child is. All right. So in your walk, in your nonprofit with inspiring mothers, how important is it you think, because people give, government funds. We have public schools, we have charter schools. But here and I'd be like, we have a private school.

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It's not a secret school. It's a private school. Meaning that we have to supply all the funds and mothers who want to make sure that their children are safe, secure. And I'm going to put this one in there and sanctified, covered, protected. That's what we offer here. But I don't I don't know how sometimes to help parents understand that we're available and we want more kids.

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You do a grandmother. You have sacrificed a lot. She has helped me to understand that if you're going to bless your children and bless you, we bless all these people in the Kingdom of God. But what are you doing to bless your own children? What are you doing to bless your own legacy within your own families? And so now I have a whole different perspective on being a blessing.

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Once we are blessing to others, at some point you have to stop and say the people that that bleed your blood, have you blessed their journey? Can you please share with us what that means to you? For a person to not just live, but live through the lives that you have to bring up? Somebody listening wants to share that?

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Absolutely. So as part of my nonprofit, one of the scriptures that we really lean on a lot is that scripture in Proverbs, it says that a good man leaves an inheritance for his children, children. And so what we teach mothers, you know, especially in the African-American community, what I have observed me personally, is that we will spend money on things that we think that is important to us.

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And when you talk about education, you want to put that on the back burner. And I just want to tell you right now, it's really okay to be private, because sometimes what God has for people, they can't even receive it. And it's only for the elite. And what you have over here is not for everybody. Every child can't receive it because their parents are not in a position to receive the nuggets that you're given to them.

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And so what I'm saying to you is private means private. That means when you have something private is exclusive, and it's something that's beyond the public. Everybody can't get in behind those doors because it's not for everybody. So I commend you on what I have seen today and what we do here. A lot of people are focusing on this educational situation that we see where, student loans are being cut and people are not being able to get loans.

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Five years ago, the Lord told me, he said, start ministering to the people to get them ready so that their child will be able to go to college and go to the private school and have experiences that you don't rely on other people to do. What we started doing is teaching grandparents and parents how to save. Instead of buying $1,000 pair of tennis shoes, or going and having all these huge Christmas gifts, take some of that money and invest for your child's future.

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Because we can pray, because we need to pray. But if you're not preparing as you pray, then what are you giving God to bless? You gotta sow seeds into your own family. And so we have really in my nonprofit over the past year, given out 25 scholarships to new born babies, teaching those parents that, okay, come birthday, it's okay to have cupcakes and ice cream, but stop right there.

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Give them a gift, but take their money and invest in their education. We don't need, as an African-American community or a community, period, to be relying on government to educate our children. And so when you have a child and you want them to receive that exclusive education, it comes with the price. And so we have to now start looking at, at this age, in an era that we in, what are we going to do to change that educational journey for our children?

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And that's what's really important, that that takes a lot of encouragement, that takes a lot of support. I just want to get right in here and just hit it over the head. What gives you the audacity to say to me as a parent, don't quit. You know, a sometimes people don't understand the struggle. And so it's so easy to quit.

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I would love to be able to look at you and say, oh, there's never been a time when I wanted to quit. Now, there was a time when I said that, I don't know. I won't quit no matter what. Then trouble hits, then storms come. And I'm sure in your life you've had a lot of storms to look at.

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You and. And look at your smile, your presentation. You think that God has been right and all her life on a cloud. But there have been some valleys in your life. And has there ever been a time because there's a mother listening right now. There's a dad listening. There's a child listening. There's someone who's just kind of passing through this podcast who's thinking, okay, I'll give it a shot.

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I'll give it a chance. What does quitting look like to someone who says, I'll never give up? And before they realize it, it could be age. It could be a situation, it could be weight. It could be debt. What does quitting look like for people who are determined not to that? That's a that's a crazy question. Maybe it doesn't sound right.

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Let me see. I can't think of another way to say that sometimes we're so confident. We don't know that in our confidence. We've said down and cross our legs and we're confident that we're finished. And I think that's what we call quitting. And in a time when people have given up on education, they've given up on young people, encourage us, tell me.

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Well, it says that your latter day shall be your greater days. So every day that you wake up, you're walking into the latter, okay? You're going to have, things that occur in your life that's going to tell you to shut it down, quit. Let me give you a quick example here. I started this amazing job. Every job that I have have been amazing.

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I've still in contact with every boss that I've ever worked for because I understand leadership and respect. And long story short, I started this job literally on September 3rd and two weeks into that job, my daughter took a bullet, oh, eight hours in surgery. I'm in California meeting with new people, starting his job at Tesla, and I get a call that my daughter has been shot.

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Her friends literally put her in the back of her car and drove her to the hospital, and she was terrified it. And that. Everybody called me to tell me, you must quit. This must be a sign that you have to let go of something and come back home and take care of this situation. I got on a plane.

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I flew to see her. She was in ICU. People were there, gathered, and they asked, what are you going to do? What's going to happen now? And what happened now was I prayed for her. I called on the community, and within that community I got the help because the Bible say that the earth will help you. And on that Monday, I was back on a plane.

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Going back to work is not an option to give up when God has given you an assignment and when you're a child, your children. When you pray for children because children are a blessing from the Lord. And when you when God blesses you with those children, you don't have an option but to wake up every day looking for a brighter future for them.

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And the way that the enemy is wanting to take out our children is through the lack of education, lack of resources, and the lack of power and faith. And we as mothers and grandparents, we have to stand in the gap and we gotta show them that quitting is not an option. Pastor, I've quit so many times and the Lord said, okay, go on.

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I literally flatline in my faith, like I'm just gonna lay here and just he said, okay, lay on there. But then God said, but through Jesus, I see you. So come on through the blood. Let's give her a resuscitation and get back on your feet. I'll let you quit for 15 minutes. Take a pause, go on to a pity party.

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But then you got to get back up and fight. And what what what do you know when it looks like? It's when you think it is not what you think you're going to receive. When it looks like. What it looks like is when you can get up in the midst of adversity, when you can get up and knowing that I don't even know what tomorrow is holding, you've already won before you even got to the prize, because you got up, you got up and then you gave it another try and you gave it another try.

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This is something that you and I have not talked about. I know that our audience can probably view this, and what I have here is it's like a running picture. And I'm going to ask you a question, which could be a common question on this. Decided to try podcast. By the way, to those of you that are listening, I want you to to subscribe, share, and, tell someone else about this podcast.

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We're here today with Carolyn Garner, who's a wonderful business executive for Tesla who has a nonprofit where she's helping mothers. I'm going to say mothers have more than another second chance. So I'm going to say it that way, because that's the way I see it now. She just explained to us that she has a daughter who has been shot.

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Now, wait a minute. Most of the people that know about our success is that's only here about they don't know about the things behind the scenes that drive us okay, because some things drive us away. Some things drive us backwards. Something is drive us crazy. But I figure, man, if you still being driven, you've decided to not quit.

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So. So here's the deal. I want you to look at this, Carolyn, and tell me, where are you? Here. I don't know if, but I know you've never seen this because it's more personal. I want to turn it a little bit here. I don't know how our audience can view this. This is the top and this is the bottom.

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Where are you right now? Now that's crazy. We we didn't have a chance to look at talk about this, but let's let's look at this. And I'm going to explain it a little bit more because you have inspired me today to talk about this. Now, you have I keep talking about education. I keep talking about bringing children into our school, and you just.

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Boy, you just dropped that nugget. That was unfair, that you just dropped it. And I can say is private, meaning that everybody may not have access because everybody does not appreciate sitting at the king's table. Anyway, there was some message that Jesus gave his disciples, I believe, that were just private. You guys have to get this because others haven't walk their walk.

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But we have these three images top, the middle and end. I'm going to give my opinion about this and I want you to give yours. Just just looking at it straight, raw. I want to move a little pause here for a second. Now we get a better shot at tell me. So I see myself in every area of this space today.

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So first of all, in some areas God has elevated me and I can hold my hands up and say that I want there are some other areas that I'm still struggling with, and I'm at the bottom and I'm still trying to figure out how to navigate to that success ladder. And then there's some in the middle that I've gone through, challenges.

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I've gone through some things in my life, and I'm just right there getting ready to conquer those areas. And I'm standing right there. So you I see myself in every area because I'm never going to. Right. And every time I get there and hold my hands up, he remind me there's some more work to do. You got to start back over and climb to the top of that right now as well.

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We have some music, give you an audio lesson that would be like some music, some haha, some celebration music. Okay, if you're are listening on this podcast on audio, what I have here is a ladder. And this image of a ladder has a person at the top with his hands up. Has a person in the middle of this same ladder.

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If you can just kind of close your eyes and imagine it. But then there's a person at the bottom of this ladder, and this person is holding the ladder, and I don't care how successful we are, there's always someone who's holding our ladder. I used to think that my goal in life was to be at the top, and maybe that was at a certain point in my life.

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Now I realize that if I'm going to be at the top, I have to make sure that the people holding my ladder. Are stronger than I ever imagined. You can walk in a building. He can be so wonderful. But who's cleaning that building? Who's sterilizing that building? You don't know how important a maintenance guy is. This is not going to be decent.

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But this is my podcast. This is not church. You don't realize how important a maintenance guy is until you're stuck in a restroom one day and there's no tissue. Now, that was crazy. But all of a sudden you start to put the value on the guy or the lady who makes sure that you're safe and unsafe. Spaces. You're stuck and you need help.

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All of a sudden you appreciate that person who takes care of things that you can't see. So somebody at the top is my point, Keller, because you personally have been holding that ladder, you may get yelled at because they talk louder at the top. You may get discouraged because they have no one else that they can really depend on.

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They're not in the middle. Sometimes you're right down here and someone may ask you, hey, does it seem fair that you're not noticed? But every time that person who's succeeding understands that without you, they go, you get your reward. You know, we're doing this podcast right now, and what most of you don't realize is, yes, I am running this camera.

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I am doing this audio, I am running these lights. I am holding up these seats. I have put together all of this sit with my bare hands. No, I'm the voice of the podcast. But there are other muscles behind the scene that caused me to do what I do. So if I'm talking to all of you letter holders out there, you're trying to be, success ful, you've already succeeded.

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If somebody that you're supporting is still standing. Sometimes your role is to just make others stronger. And I promise you, you do it long enough, God, to give you a chance to have your own victory. What I love about sometimes the award ceremonies, are the thoughts that they don't only have the entertainer of the year, but they'll have the entertainers score paper writer of the words that, you know, those are the people who make it possible for the singer to sing those lyrics.

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You have made it possible today for me to stand here and say to my entire staff, hey, you guys, you know what? We're going to make sure that we change our focus from trying to finish a school term.

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To keep a child from having to finish a life sentence. Some people will be doomed because no one will be strong enough to hold them up while they're climbing. You have done such an awesome job inspiring us today. And I mean it, I mean it, I, I watched this sister cry and fellowship with guys who normally wouldn't be allowed at in a boardroom where she is not in an executive room, where she is not in a banquet where she's speaking.

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But they had a chance today to have a private laying on of hands with the same woman. It's around millionaires and billionaires every day. Those same hands got a chance to touch some mothers son and give him hope. And that guy today, you may never know who he is. That guy feels like he's at the top because somebody gave him strength while he was struggling.

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Unknown
And that's somebody my sister, Carolyn Garner. What else can you tell us? Maybe in wrapping this up today that would help someone else to know, don't give up. Becoming somebody else is holding somebody else's ladder. Giving up is not a choice. Yeah, and wherever you are planted, you got to grow. And as I walk through today and thank you for allowing me to see the vision up close and personal, and I saw lives that you have transformed through ministry.

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I saw lives that you have given hope where they are. The world will say they're outcast. But I saw people, I saw smiles on faces. And there was someone who possibly had given up and for whatever reason in this season, that there's somebody that was born by the name of Pastor Ricky Wells, they gave that person hope when they were outcast, when they were downtrodden.

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You look beyond their faults as what the Word of God says, and you saw some needs. And too often people get so caught up on title, who we are, what spaces we're in, and they forget about the ministry that really why we're here. And so giving up is not even an option. And when you feel like you want to give up, you gotta find somebody who believes in you more than you believe in yourself.

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Unknown
And I saw that today. I saw people who had lost hope with themselves. They felt like, what I've done, the world is never going to accept me, or I'm never going to be great because I made a mistake. But it's the love of God that's displayed in your ministry, in your life and in this space that gives people hope.

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And I would tell you publicly what I have told you privately, I've been around this world. Matter of fact, the last time I counted, I had 45 stamps on my passport. And then right now I have met people all over the world in all walks of life. But what I have seen here today, and what has been assigned to you, is bigger than anything I've ever seen up close and personal.

00;25;45;22 - 00;26;09;12
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For you to walk me through what? God gave you a vision. And so I want to say to the person out there where you think that I've done something, that I may be ashamed, I didn't come out of a situation like everybody else. And we thank and praise God for those great students, those eight students, those students who went to school and then called their parents into trouble.

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You are celebrated as well, but there are people out there who literally have issues going on, and they find themselves in spaces, and they don't think that they even have an opportunity to make it. And so you gotta if you're that person, you need to find their place. And the Bible says you have not, because you ask not.

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And no matter what you've done, if you do not believe that there is forgiveness and there is hope, then you really don't know Jesus. And what you're doing here in this space is you're trying to introduce Jesus to people who may not ever know that he is really real. And the Bible say that a tree is known by the fruit he bears.

00;26;52;34 - 00;27;09;59
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And as I walk through here and I have touched lives that have been transformed, I have seen people who have served time and they are out there working in the spirit of excellence. I'll ask you, who cleans this place? Why is it so immaculate? Because there is black excellence. So black excellence is this not in the corporate room?

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Black excellence is not in the boardroom. Black excellence is not in a public organization. You have black excellence in the house of God. And because of that, people are going to be blessed and lives are going to be changed. Okay, okay, I confess I have enough. No, I don't good. I want to listen. I want this to continue to go on.

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I got two questions. One, I want to know what's next for Carol and God. I want to ask that. And then I want to say, because I want to say this. I want those of you that are listening now, please, if you still with this, with this podcast, I want you to subscribe right now. Share this with others.

00;27;49;51 - 00;28;15;07
Unknown
Pass the word. Let others know that there is a podcast on. It's called a. Decide to try a podcast with Rick Easy Rush and I just want to stop right now and encourage you to share it, subscribe to it, keep listening and just and just man, bless someone else or be a part of someone else's victory. Now I want to say, as we get ready to conclude here, I want to know what's next for you.

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Unknown
And I want to lead into that by saying, I wrote a book several years ago called May I Have Your order, please? It has a lot to do with driving through, you know, a drive through. And that was a drive through that I went through. And I placed my order. I prayed and I was ready to pick it up.

00;28;34;25 - 00;28;57;53
Unknown
But when I got to the end, they told me that I had to wait over on the side because, well, what I ordered was not normal. And I realized it was taking me so long to get what I ordered because I had a special order. Everybody's hamburger had a sauce, everybody else's hamburger had the tomato. Whatever was there, I wanted mine with no sauce, no one.

00;28;57;58 - 00;29;26;35
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So they had to stop and specialize mine. Kill them. And no disrespect, but Saint care. And this is Miss Garner. However, you guys know her in the corporate world. Kill you a special order. It takes somebody. I don't know anybody of your caliber that would stop. I walked into a room the other day, and you said to your executives and to people around you, I want to talk to him.

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Unknown
I did not know a few years ago that you had been in my presence, but you are at the top of a lot of ladders now. But you were able enough to say, I want to talk to him and you pour it into me. I'm saying that because you are not normal. You're just not a hamburger. You got, like, extra cheese, extra tomato sauce, a little pickled on the side.

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You are a special order. And please allow me the freedom to say that, That you are. You're not. You're not normal. There are some abnormal people out there that think that being abnormal is a bad thing. No, you know, you have normal. Did you have abnormal? You're a different you're a different kind of a gift because you're so powerful and energetic.

00;30;21;28 - 00;30;43;22
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So anyone listening to this podcast, I want you to understand that sometimes God will touch people to come and touch you. So that's what I had to say about you being a special order. But now I want to know what's next. What's next? Yeah, well, I try to live by the word of God. Okay. And so the Word of God says that eyes have not seen and ears have not heard what he has in store.

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I have many requests before the Lord and some of those requests to continue. The Lord help me to figure out how to serve your people even more. Done work in Africa, have whales in Africa, computers in technology in Africa, scholarships here locally, major donations to charity tear, the contributions to churches and different things. Because I just know that I'm never going out.

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Give God. And so the more that I give and pour out your witness, he's going to give it back. My next journey. And where I see is, number one, I just want to make sure that my grandchildren know the Lord because charity begins at home. I can go out in this whole world and tell my story and tell how good God has been.

00;31;35;03 - 00;31;56;33
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But if my family don't know Jesus, if they don't know who he is, if they do not know him and have a personal relationship with him, they're my legacy. That and so my first work now, where it used to be more in the community is making sure you're not going to get away with that would be no. So you just said the legacy is not necessarily about what the community now is.

00;31;56;33 - 00;32;22;09
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Other people say the legacy starts with who really knows you and your journey. When the lights are out and people are gone. That's right. Okay, stop. We gotta listen, y'all. Look, let's let that marinate for just a minute. That was too much to just walk through. Good Lord. The legacy starts with the baby. Who knows how you all when you not in public with the family members who know how you are.

00;32;22;09 - 00;32;45;07
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When you when you're able to get along with. And you got heaven as you go and oh, okay, okay, I can process that now. Okay. I may have to go back and and just check some temperatures up, some people within the camp instead of people that, come to the camp meeting. That's right. All right. So let let's let's play a quick game.

00;32;45;12 - 00;33;10;06
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It's called you decide. It's the decide to try and podcast with Pastor Ricky G. Russ. But there's a game that we play and this is like, no way that we have a chance to think of the answers. I'm going to give you two words and you tell me what you think is a priority. You decide is is it's it's it's the decide to try decision making game.

00;33;10;06 - 00;33;59;54
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You're ready. I'm ready. Okay. Mustard a mayonnaise mustard. Private or public? Private. Texas or Utah? Texas. Cheeseburger. Hot dog. Turkey burger. Oh, guys. Okay. Ice cream or sake? Ice cream? Grandma. A mom, grandmother. Online or in person? Either one. You okay? Okay. Pants, a skirt, skirt. Okay. Earrings, a necklaces, earrings. Baseball or football? Football.

00;33;59;59 - 00;34;38;39
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Heels or sneakers? Sneakers. Okay, okay. She's on it. She's on it. Last one. Yes or no? Yes. Wow. Okay. This has been another episode of this site to try and behind the barn doors today, we found that you can be successful. You can be courageous, you can accomplish all things. But if you don't know how you got there and you can't bring someone else along with you, maybe you haven't arrived.

00;34;38;44 - 00;35;10;19
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Calen Garner has not only arrived, but she's been able to look back, grab someone else, stay connected to people who decided to try. So maybe you didn't make it to the top. Maybe your call in life was to hold the ladder for someone else to get to the top. Just a thought. Join us next episode so the Decide to Try podcast with Ricky J.

00;35;10;23 - 00;35;38;58
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Rush one. Invite you want to invite Helen Garner to maybe one day go to this fantastic church that they have in Dallas. That's called the Inspiring Body of Christ Church, right? And there is an education system that's called the University of Dreams. So any parent, grandparent, niece, nephew, cousin, we talked about it today. Somebody is not able to do it.

00;35;39;02 - 00;35;52;16
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The only reason you won't be able to do it is because you did not decide to try do it. Nothing happens till you decide to try. So you guys, next time.

00;35;54;48 - 00;36;03;07
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Okay. In.