The Other Half Podcast

Hard Questions That Make A Marriage Stronger

• Tino & Erika • Season 2 • Episode 2

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Unconditional love is easy to praise and hard to live out when real life shows up: bills, burnout, insecurity, temptation, and the words you can’t take back. We sit down as a married couple and answer the kinds of relationship questions people whisper to their friends but rarely ask their spouse out loud, and we keep it honest even when it’s uncomfortable.

We dig into what “unconditional love” actually means, why attraction and commitment aren’t the same thing, and why loyalty in marriage comes down to choices you make long before a bad moment happens. We talk about boundaries, avoiding situations that don’t match your values, and the simple habits that make trust feel safe, like checking in, coming home, and not leaving your partner guessing. We also get real about communication styles, including why one of us needs time to cool off and think, while the other wants to talk it through immediately.

Then we go deeper: Have we ever thought about leaving? Would we stay if one of us financially failed? Did we “settle,” or did we build something that fits? We also wrestle with ambition and modern pressure, especially social media hustle culture, and how it can steal presence at home. If you care about healthy marriage, relationship communication, emotional safety, and building trust after past hurt, this conversation will hit.

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Sunday Check-In And Cold Open

SPEAKER_08

Erica's making me bring us in because she says she's always doing it, and that's kind of rude because it's supposed to be a teammate, a partnership, and all that good stuff. Don't be looking at my camera. Is it recording? Yes, it's recording. See, she don't even know if it's recording or not. Anyways, welcome to the other half podcast on this lovely Sunday.

SPEAKER_02

Hi guys.

SPEAKER_08

Erica, what day is it? Sunday. We went to church today. It was long. Feels like a long day already. So how was how was your day?

SPEAKER_01

That was good. I just woke up from a nap, a knob. I'm still halfway asleep. I just woke up from a nap. I'm so tired. I needed that nap, so I might not be all the way awake, but I'm excited to do this podcast.

SPEAKER_08

Erica been begging me to do this episode with a channel. I ain't even looking at no questions. Erica been begging me to do this podcast with her, this episode specifically.

SPEAKER_01

I have not been begging him.

SPEAKER_08

I said two weeks.

SPEAKER_01

For once I had an idea, because usually I don't have an I don't have a clue what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_08

Now she got ideas.

SPEAKER_01

But do you want to start with um all right?

SPEAKER_08

Look, we got our icebreaker, and I picked it today because Erica picked the topic.

Money-Free Life Icebreaker

SPEAKER_08

Okay. Today's icebreaker powered by Hella Awkward. Shout out to Hella Awkward, of course. Um, if money wasn't an issue, how would you spend your time?

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_08

That's D.Va.

SPEAKER_01

No, that's like something that I keep talking about all the time. I just, yes, more money means you can do more things.

SPEAKER_08

But money isn't an issue. So what would you do?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, do more things. Um, to money wasn't an issue. First of all, well, first my family comes first. So I would just want to make sure we're taking the kids to do things and experience things.

SPEAKER_08

Things like what?

SPEAKER_01

Like vacations. I want them to see other states and things like that. Um, and then like one of the major things for me, besides like our family stuff, you know, like experiencing things, um, making sure that we're doing things that we normally didn't do before because we're always held back by, you know, you gotta save money too. You can't just be spending money, so it's hard. Um, but also I would love to like give back. Like, I wanna be able to stand in line and just pay for somebody's groceries or buy a kid a backpack and supplies that a parent can't, like donations and things like that. If money wasn't an issue, because I feel like right now it's not that we're not poor, but you know, we gotta take care of ourselves first. Bills, kids, things like that. So, but yeah.

SPEAKER_08

All right, hold on. Let me say it was not how would you spend your money, how would you spend your time?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, my time? If money wasn't an issue, it's the same thing. All right, I would spend my time doing stuff like that.

SPEAKER_08

Eric is stressing me out. Anyways, how would I spend my time? Mm-hmm. Um, I probably still work, to be honest. Just because I feel like I feel like being a barber is being a part of the community and doing your part as like I wouldn't work as much, but I would still be there, like, you know what I'm saying? For those people who need me. But other than that, yeah, I'd want to travel and all that other good stuff. I'd wanna uh honestly, I just travel.

Is Unconditional Love Real

SPEAKER_08

Before we get to the next thing, um, we got a question from someone that they left, a comment. Um, they said, Y'all think unconditional love is real or easy to find. This is from Humble Trend on TikTok. Follow humble trend. That boy got some uh good content, but do you think unconditional love is hard to find?

SPEAKER_01

Mm-hmm. Why? Um, because people love with conditions all the time. Like you don't have enough money. That's a problem. Like when we we watch Pop the Balloon, there's so many deal breakers that these people have, like it's not it's not unconditional at all. Or love is blind, like you notice how people really do operate. So if you don't have enough money, it's a problem. Um you know, because then they don't want to have to do a hundred percent that the other person can't do or whatever. Um, I think just things like that. People are not genuine, they don't love with unconditional love.

SPEAKER_08

That's deep. I feel like people, I feel like it's hard to find because people don't want it anymore. I feel like it's people say they want it, but it's like, mm-hmm. I want a man that's gonna pay for all the bills, I want a man that's this, that's that. And it's like, well, then what about when he can't pay the bills anymore? You know what I mean? So I think it's it's very hard to find. I don't think it's easy, but it's also do you actually want to be in a relationship? Do you want to be married? Do you want to have kids? Like, what does that look like for you? Because I feel like that looks like something different for everyone in a way. Um, it shouldn't, but I feel like it does. So that's like, oh, I'll love you as long as you look good, and I love you as long as it sounds like unconditional to them, but there's still a stipulation to it. Like, would you love me if I was fat? I'm talking 300. 300. Like, no, no neck.

SPEAKER_01

If you just got like that, yeah. I feel like, yes, I think I would still love you. Okay, again, because love is not about looks. The question you should be asking me is, would I still be attracted to you? Probably not. You know what I mean? So I think first of all, I think that that's a very unhealthy weight, and that's not good. And that that's telling me you don't want to live forever for us. So you're not putting your you're not taking care of yourself. So that's hard to be attracted to that. But as far as like love, like I've first of all, I've never been like a looks person. I feel like looks fade, they really do. And I'm more like, I want to be able to have a good friendship with you, I want to be able to laugh with you. I want to know that you're loyal, that you're faithful, and that you'll take care of this family. Like, that's it. Then if I'm attracted to you, that's just a cherry on top. Like, I think when you're older, you'll still be a very attractive man. But I'm just saying, I'm not. You may feel differently. I'm not. I I think looks is if I couldn't see you, would I still love who you are? That's where my mind goes. Looks does not. I feel like yeah, it matters to an extent. It matters to an extent. You have to be obviously you want to be attracted, but how do you explain that to somebody who's blind?

SPEAKER_08

So I'm gonna remind her. Stop asking me that we can see. All right. Go ahead with your questions.

Why We Ask Hard Questions

SPEAKER_01

Anyway, so today is gonna be kind of different because yes, we're doing this on the podcast. So I wanted to do this video. I actually got this idea from Reese and Ray. Shout out to Reese and Ray that live in Arizona. Um, they did a video that was pretty much like questions that you ask your significant other, your spouse, that are difficult questions to answer. And they got their questions from ChatGPT. So so did I. And then also I want to do this because there's just times like I'll be waxing these women and they have so many questions for me because I've talked about my relationship. They'll ask me, like, oh, you know, do you have a husband or do you have kids? And you get into like these conversations where you eventually have these relationships and they know a little bit about you, so they know that I'm married, they know how long, they know that I always talk about him, and I don't. I've even had somebody that's like, oh, he sounds like a saint. And so it made me think one day, like, I kind of want to answer things that I get asked quite often. I was just gonna do this idea because I also recently watched a YouTuber that found out that her, well, he was her boyfriend, but they were together for like more than 10 years, and then recently just had a baby, and she said things along the line like, I would have never in a million years thought that he would cheat on me or that he would, which he did. He ended up cheating on her twice, and he became a cop, and that happened. So I kind of wanted it's like all kind of tying in for me because I feel like I think I have a pretty good relationship, I think I have a really great marriage, even though we get on each other's nerves. Um, but like I feel like I trust you 101%. I feel like you have been faithful to me. And so it's kind of like questions like, what makes you want to be faithful? What makes you want to be loyal? Things that I kind of ask you in private, but we don't ever talk about on here. And then I just found questions on chat GPT because of that couple that did it. So it's just questions that you ask each other that's hard to answer.

Being Yourself And Keeping Peace

SPEAKER_01

Do you want to pick some or do you want me to just ask one?

SPEAKER_08

Just let them fly.

SPEAKER_06

Um do you feel like you can be your full self with me?

SPEAKER_01

This is unfiltered. You answer how you really feel.

SPEAKER_08

Well, that's an easy one because we've talked about this. Of course. Of course. Because in other relationships it wasn't the same, but there wasn't time spent like we have as much time. So yeah. Do you?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, for the most part.

SPEAKER_08

What do you mean for the most part?

SPEAKER_01

For the most part.

SPEAKER_08

What do you mean for the most part?

SPEAKER_01

For the most part.

SPEAKER_08

Like explain.

SPEAKER_01

Um, I feel like I can be myself to an extent because there's things about me that you don't always like. Or that you don't understand, so sometimes it's hard, but for the most part, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Oh dang.

SPEAKER_01

We've already talked about this though. We talked about this walking along the park. But yeah, I feel like I feel like I can be myself. I I think I am myself around you a hundred percent of the time. It's just sometimes, you know, it'll tell me, hey, you acted this way, blah blah blah. Then I gotta try to change how I'm being, you know? But there's all kinds of questions on here. Um is there something you've been holding back to keep the peace?

SPEAKER_08

Um not that I know of.

SPEAKER_06

Don't lie.

SPEAKER_08

Not that I know of.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, yeah, it's real hot here.

SPEAKER_08

If there was something in the moment, you don't tell me in the moment. No, because I need time to sort that, and then I need time for you to calm down. Sometimes you'd be like, you'd be ready to fire all shots. So I feel like there's always a calmer time.

SPEAKER_01

You know what he does? He sends me a paragraph.

SPEAKER_08

Stop lying.

SPEAKER_01

Why are you lying? He sends me a paragraph of something that I may have said or did that bothered him. He does not tell me to my face. Dang, why? Keep it real. Why? Because he feels like he can sort out all his words better, and then if he probably said it to my face, he feels like he can't. I don't know. You tell them why. Why do you say it to me? Everything is in a text.

SPEAKER_08

Here's my thing. I need time to think about everything, right? Because I feel like sometimes when you're angry or mad or something like that, sometimes you say things you don't mean. Or sometimes I have to word it in a way to where you hope the other person understands instead of gets offended. That's it.

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_08

What about you?

SPEAKER_01

No, I don't because I tell you everything. I don't, I don't need time. Wow. Plus, I don't feel like I would ever say anything that I um I've I'm past that stage. I've done that in my previous relationships. I don't have time for that. I think I think very um, I try to be as logical as I can and respectful, and and my mind just never goes there. I would never like say something that I would regret or something that I know would like just intentionally to hurt you because I'm angry, I would never do that.

SPEAKER_08

I feel like sometimes when you have a short fuse like myself, sometimes that's why you have to take that time because sometimes you might not realize what you say or how you say it, or you know, it's better to just calm down first.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

So yeah.

Why Staying Loyal Still Matters

SPEAKER_01

Well, so you didn't answer my question, though, that a lot of my guests ask me. Well, they don't ask me, but like it makes me think we've been together for 10 years, and you've never stepped out on me. That's not normal. I'm saying it's not it's not normal in today's world. Because personally, I like everybody else's relationships, and I'm assuming that you're being cheated on. That's I know it's so bad. No, I know it's so bad. I know it's so bad and negative, but like I just I do agree that there is not really a relationship like ours. We're not perfect, we're definitely not perfect, but I don't I don't know. I just really don't think that there's a lot of men. There's one man I could say right now, and that's Joe. That's it. Like, there's not one other man that I could think of that I could be like, yeah, I think that's I don't think he would do that. I don't know. I feel like honestly, I think everybody is capable of like cheating and like being a liar and stuff, or doing things like living a second life, like that girl's uh boyfriend that became a cop, but I feel like everything's a choice, and I guess that's why I'm asking because I know that it's a choice. It's not, I think everyone's capable of doing things, but you choose to be faithful and loyal, and like they even kind of talked about it at church today. But um, I feel like it's a choice. You have to both want to keep your relationship in your marriage healthy and faithful and all that stuff. So, for those of you that ask questions like that, because I know I get asked even on my social media and stuff, or I'll get messages about like our podcasts and stuff, and I think um, you know, people just want to know how do we try to keep it healthy. So I wanted to ask you why what makes you remain faithful and loyal, and why have you never stepped out on me? Um or have you?

SPEAKER_08

I sure have.

SPEAKER_01

I'm joking.

SPEAKER_08

All right, um, I think it's uh it's one of those things like I I've seen it too much, I've been around it, but at the end of the day, when you asked for something, like when when you want something in your life, like I always wanted to be a dad, I always wanted to be married, why would I mess that up? You know what I mean? Like, this is what I want. Okay, I'm here now. The goal is to continue this, but also I feel like going out there into the world is a day, uh, it's scary out there. There's STDs, there's all kind of stuff like that, there's terrible people. Like, not only is it like okay, I want to be here, but it's also a fear of what's out there. Because getting to know someone over, oh my goodness. I I don't think I could do it. Like it sounds so hard and it sounds so like like when I was younger, I felt like there was no one for me where I lived. And then I leave, and then it happens, you know what I mean? So when I go back home, it's like nothing out there is for me.

SPEAKER_01

What about everywhere else?

SPEAKER_08

I mean, I don't think like how do you as a man, you know it's so hard to find someone that's like you when you find that person, you know what I mean? And that's that's one of the biggest things for me because I don't smoke, I don't drink, I go to church, I I'm a dad. There's also that, you know, the kids are involved, you know what I mean? So there's so many factors of what comes with that. Because not only do you tear apart a family, you tear apart a lot of stuff when you do that.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

But also, like, like I don't I don't go out, I don't do any of that for or not. I mean, when people go out, I look at it like this you're either going out to drink or talk to women. I'm married and I don't drink. What am I doing out? So that's why I kind of get irritated when when I end up somewhere like that. You know what I mean? Because it's like, bro, you know I don't want to be here. What are we doing?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

So, but I feel like it's I feel like waking up and doing that is a decision.

SPEAKER_00

That's what I was saying.

SPEAKER_08

You're choosing to not choose the person in your life. You're waking up and choosing, yeah, I'm gonna do this today. It's not like you just it's not an accident, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It's not.

SPEAKER_08

Yep.

SPEAKER_01

Which, like, for me, like my me answering that question's I noticed like something that you didn't I like the way that you answered it because I think that's a raw answer for all kinds of men that maybe are faithful to their wife or their girlfriend, whatever. But I also noticed that nowhere in there did you say, Well, because I love you so much that I wouldn't want to hurt you like that, or do you like that?

SPEAKER_08

Because I feel like that's a given, though.

SPEAKER_01

Right. But I also feel like what you said is like real because I know couples that get into it and then they go and they cheat on the on each other in the moment. So like I feel like it's just it's all a decision, but I also know I I tell my my um clients that too. Well, I just feel like they'll tell me, like, oh, he went to Vegas and did blah blah blah. And I'm like, Yeah, my husband's been to Vegas by what you know, without me and his cousins, but I just don't have that worry. So it's definitely all a choice.

SPEAKER_08

Um, it's also one of those like communication and all that. Like, whenever I go somewhere, I'm talking to you almost as much as I'm talking to them. Like, you always hear from me, whether it's a call or a text or whatever, and that's just what it is. Like, it's a safe, like you're my safe place, you know what I mean? I've been to a lot of situations where I'm like, I do not want to be here. And I'll either call my wife and I'll just sit there and talk to her, or whatever.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, like you did when we were first were dating and you were outside in the car at outside the strip club.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, yeah. That was why you gotta throw all that in there. Why you gotta throw all that in there?

SPEAKER_01

Why are you why are you why are you embarrassed?

SPEAKER_08

Because you know what?

SPEAKER_01

That was my first red or green flag.

SPEAKER_08

That was like a situation, like we're here. I don't want to be here, but I don't have control, right? Because I'm sitting in a car because the people I went there with, I ain't gonna say no names. Yeah, but the people I went there with wanted to be here, and then it was like we we were supposed to be leaving, and I'm thinking we're leaving. We didn't have the hotel anymore, so I had nowhere to go. So I'm like, bro, I don't that's uncomfortable, yeah. Like I it's just somewhere I don't want to be.

SPEAKER_01

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_08

So I'd rather just I I okay, y'all have fun. I'm gonna sit outside on this bench right here and just talk to my wife. Like, that's cool, you know what I'm saying? But it's just like it's not my not my thing.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, it's never been that that's definitely not normal.

SPEAKER_08

When you're raising daughters, it's different.

SPEAKER_01

Why do you feel like it's different?

SPEAKER_08

Because I feel like you have to be the example for them. Not only that, like if I'm not out of town, every night I'm at home, every single night. Like, I have to be home so they know oh, everybody's home. We're all safe. But I also have to be home, so I know that too. It's not just them.

SPEAKER_01

So it's one of those, like Yeah, we're not ever out past. Like, we're not ever out past midnight. Like, I don't think you ever, I don't know. You may I mean whatever. We're not ever like out to where like we're wondering where the heck each other is for all night. You know what I mean? Like, even just yesterday, me and the girls stayed after work for like three hours talking about work outside of work, outside by our cars. And even then, like we look down and we're like, oh my god, it's nine o'clock. We gotta go. Like, we have people at home. Um, but like, even just like that, I'm like, oh my gosh, let me call them right away and let them know I'm on my way because that's not the norm. Like, we're not ever out late or like away from each other without communication. And I think that's just something that a lot of relationships lack. Just you just know. I feel like for me, I just know that I don't have to worry. I don't I say this all the time to the girls at work and my clients, like you could be in a room full of naked women, and I would honestly not worry. As crazy as crazy as you think I am, like if you were ever put like if you were, I don't know, it's just an analogy, but like I wouldn't be worried because I know that you would walk right back out, you know? So it's just I don't know, it's a it's a safety that I feel that I'm not worried about. That's why we're here 10 years later.

SPEAKER_08

There's also situations that I've walked in on in my life, and I'm just like, I don't want to see that. I can't do it. There's there's some situations that I've like what? Like some, I don't know if it's appropriate. It's not appropriate to be on here.

SPEAKER_01

Like what? I don't know these things.

SPEAKER_08

I know we can I'll tell you after this, but I'm talking, I just said it ain't inappropriate to be on here. Like what?

SPEAKER_01

I always tell people though that we talk about everything. Like this is, and y'all been roasting him in the comments a lot lately, and like I won't even care. Look, we already said in the last podcast, he gets on my nerves. Okay, y'all didn't even probably just see, but we I was just arguing with him like 10 minutes ago. Cause I just we do get on each other's nerves and we misunderstand each other a lot. I'm not gonna lie. But y'all, if you don't know us and you're just watching us like on a screen for what, I don't even know how long these usually are, but like our small clips on on YouTube shorts, and you're not you don't know us. You don't know our relationship if you're not somebody that's close to us. People that are close to us that know us know that this is just how we are. Um, it may not be how you do your relationship, but we talk to each other the way that we do and we play around and whatever. Um, but like don't take him seriously. Don't take him seriously. Sometimes I have to tell myself that, and I've been with him for 10 years, so I get it, but like he does love me, he is respectable towards me. Like I said, I do think that he's probably one of one only, and I don't think that there's anybody else out him like that out there, so I am good, guys. All I have to say about that.

SPEAKER_08

Nah, leave a comment. You know what? So I can get on y'all's algorithm and more people see my video. I don't even care.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he does let me talk. If anything, I'm usually the one that interrupts.

SPEAKER_08

Think about this. I was sitting there this morning, waking up. She was doing her makeup. She was talking so long, my alarm went off and she kept talking. I went to wake up the kids. I come back in the room, she's still talking. Think about that. And I don't let her talk. Come on, man.

SPEAKER_01

If I let her talk, I won't get out of the situation. Because sometimes, like when I want to talk to you about something, it takes me a little longer.

SPEAKER_08

A little.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know how you do it, but you'll tell me some story at work and it's like quick. Mine's like detailed, and I'm trying. I told you this already in the car. It's hard for me to word what I want to say and tell you how I experienced it, the way I experienced it, and I want you to experience it how I did. But like sometimes you just like kind of act like you're you don't want to hear me anymore. All right, more questions.

Have We Ever Considered Leaving

SPEAKER_01

All right, more questions. Thoughts you might not say out loud. Have you ever thought about leaving me? Don't freaking lie to me.

SPEAKER_08

You know what? I've thought about it's more of like if she wanna be gold, she can be gone. You know what I do that I don't tell you? I be arguing with you in my head in the car. And then when I see you, I'm like, I'm gonna say this, I'm gonna say this. And then I see you. Either you don't react the way that I expect you to, or what?

SPEAKER_04

I don't know.

SPEAKER_08

I just or it's like I'll say one part and I'll forget the rest.

SPEAKER_02

Like, what is something that you say to me and I don't react the way you want me to?

SPEAKER_08

I don't know. Or you thought I would. Like what times I'll be like, oh, she's gonna be cool about this. Yeah, excuse me. Or I'm like, you know what? No, I'm mad. And then I get a text. I'm sorry. It's always in the car. Always I just be in my head.

SPEAKER_01

So you don't ever you've never thought about leaving me? I found that hard to believe.

SPEAKER_08

I feel like I look at it like you would leave me first.

SPEAKER_01

You always say that.

SPEAKER_08

Because I just I don't know. To leave, to leave is like that's it. These these are kids that I helped raise, and I think that a lot of times plays a huge part, but for the most part, it's like dang, bro. Leaving? Do I really want to do that? No.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it has to definitely be more than the kids, though, because I feel like a lot of people do that, and the kids are not like the kids know.

SPEAKER_08

I feel like to me, they play a big part. But I also feel like like I said, like then we gotta separate this and we gotta separate this, and you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01

Like, so what about when they're older?

SPEAKER_08

Well, when they're older, we still it would be like we would have to go our separate ways, right? I wouldn't want you to have to live here and struggle.

SPEAKER_00

That should not be why you don't know.

SPEAKER_08

No, because these are things I think about. Of course, I I don't want to be without you, but at the same time, I think about all this. Like, if she didn't want to be with me anymore, how would that? You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01

It would be hard, but I yeah.

SPEAKER_08

I'm just a thinker. Yeah, I'd be thinking, I'd be in my head.

SPEAKER_01

He does think a lot, too much, a lot. You overthink.

SPEAKER_07

So okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_07

So, what about you? Have you ever thought about leaving me?

SPEAKER_01

I feel like it's the same for me, like you. I feel like what we've got into like not good conversations and you say certain things, like one time he said something to me, I'm not gonna repeat it.

SPEAKER_02

And it and it kind of was like, Well, if you want to go, go.

SPEAKER_01

And so to me, to me, if you say something like that to me, then I will be like, okay, well, like, because to me, I I've I feel like I've been through that before where people want to leave all the time when the going gets tough or whatever, they they just don't want to stick it out. So I'm like, if I hear that now, I'm kind of like, okay, because before I would beg. And I'm not gonna do that ever again in my life. I will never let somebody make me feel like that ever again in my life. So to me, it's kind of like, well, if you don't want to be with me, I'm sure somebody else would, kind of thing. Like my mind goes there, and then it's like hurtful too. So it's kind of like, well, I'm not gonna beg you. Because what I'd what I wouldn't want to do is like to have somebody be with me that doesn't really want to be with me, but just feel sorry, or like the kids, that kind of thing. So that's why I say that. But I've never actually thought about leaving you.

SPEAKER_08

Chris got to get it, he used to hit me with the craziest break of lines. Like what I'm done with you. Cause I was so I'm not but this the thing, she didn't mean she wanted to break up.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah, yeah. I do.

SPEAKER_08

And it's like, why do you keep saying that?

SPEAKER_01

I do, I think I still do that now, where I'll be like, I'm done. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

You can't just leave that open-ended, like that.

SPEAKER_01

Cause I'm like, you know, I'm not playing around. Like, if this is not working out, then and I've said things like I need my space, and that's a genuine like, I need my space because then my mind starts like going in wheels. Cause I'm like, does he really like y'all just told me no in the conversations that we have sometimes? So sometimes I'm like thinking about what you said, how you said it, how you meant it, and if I want to feel like that. So then I'll kind of be like, mm, I'm done. I need like I need to think about this. I need to figure out if I'm wrong or where I'm wrong, and like where I need to correct myself and where I need to understand you, because I always feel like we kind of misunderstand each other a lot. He hates when I say that, but it's true. But I have never thought about leaving him. Not at all. I always think it's you that wants to leave me.

SPEAKER_08

Why haven't you thought about it?

SPEAKER_01

Because I just don't. I don't I don't want to be with anybody else.

SPEAKER_07

Why not?

SPEAKER_01

I just I don't. I think of the same things that you do. Like it sounds exhausting for one, and you haven't done anything to me that would um cause me to leave you.

SPEAKER_06

Interesting.

SPEAKER_01

If it was the opposite of that, like if you cheated or lied to me, that was awful, like a bad lie, then you know, I wouldn't want to settle for that. Interesting. Yeah. No. Do you think that we have settled for each other then?

SPEAKER_08

Settled?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

You ain't settling for me, girl, because I'm top tier. You feel me?

SPEAKER_06

You think that you settled for me?

SPEAKER_08

No.

SPEAKER_07

Because I feel like, like I said, I there was no one that I think was for me in a way to where I could be myself. In a way to where like I like I said in the other one, I was a project that a lot of women did not want to deal with. So it's like, you didn't want to deal with me, okay. But then you chose to deal with me.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

It's like it's one of those, like it's it's one of those, like, I always wanted someone who would care for me this much. You know what I mean? Because I don't think that that was one thing that I always wanted. Like, okay, I want someone who's gonna be here, and I don't have to sit here and worry, like, does she like me today? You know what I mean? So yeah.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

I don't think I'm settled. I don't think he's settled. I think this is what I don't know.

SPEAKER_06

I know people that settle every day.

SPEAKER_07

I feel like also I I I wouldn't want to be with someone who looked at me like I want you to be I want you to be fully grown and before, you know what I'm saying? It's like, do you want me when I'm at my worst? Because I feel like a lot of a lot of people didn't.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and a lot of people don't. They don't want somebody at their worst. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

My worst ain't as bad as a lot of worse.

SPEAKER_00

I don't see I know. What if there's worse coming? Coming where? Just kidding.

SPEAKER_01

Um, so let's see.

Financial Failure And Relationship Stress

SPEAKER_01

Mansur a little bit more.

SPEAKER_06

Um do you want to answer one or ask one? Don't you see?

SPEAKER_07

No. I want you to ask all of them. Because you didn't want to let me see.

SPEAKER_06

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Uh would you stay with me if I financially failed?

SPEAKER_08

Fine. What does financially failed mean?

SPEAKER_00

I don't really know, but I'm assuming if I I'm assuming if I was not.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. I feel like financially coming in and I'm not finding a job.

SPEAKER_07

I feel like financially failed is like the worst of the worst. Um, but I don't think it would get to that point. I feel like we do have some financial troubles and some habits. But I don't think financially failed is where we are. You know what I mean? I feel like I feel like when you get with someone, you know, like especially when when every all the cards are on the table, you're not you're gonna know if they're gonna financially fail or not.

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm. Right. Yeah. Like being with someone that just doesn't try at all.

SPEAKER_07

I ain't gonna lie, financially fail is rough though.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_08

That's tough because it's like we can't do this, we can't do that, we can't because you because of you, yeah. That's that can cause bitterness, that can cause grudges, that can cause a lot of bad in a relationship. That can mess up a relationship bad.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah, I've been there. That's tough. I've been there before.

SPEAKER_08

Because I look at like some guys and it's like you just took advantage of this girl.

SPEAKER_07

And she like would have done anything for you.

SPEAKER_00

And you could have just met her half-if it was I ain't lying.

SPEAKER_07

If it was that point, oh no, absolutely not.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Because it's like, bro, I'm willing to do anything for you and you're taking advantage. So to me, financially fail is taking advantage.

SPEAKER_00

I don't think financially fail is It's like you lose your job, and if all that you're trying to find something else. That's like five times. Yeah. I have.

SPEAKER_01

That was rough. Um, yeah, I feel the same way, honestly. You already answered that for me.

Would We Still Choose Us Today

SPEAKER_01

If we met today, would you still choose me?

SPEAKER_07

Like at this age?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, it says today. Like you met me, who I'm saying. Who I am today.

SPEAKER_07

Who you are today.

SPEAKER_00

Would you still choose me?

SPEAKER_07

Yes, but I feel like it would be harder to get through to you.

SPEAKER_00

Why?

SPEAKER_07

Because who you are today and who you were.

SPEAKER_08

Like, I was playing some games in the beginning, boy. Yeah, tell them. Be honest with you. I was tell them. You know what I'm saying? I was like, let me see if this is real. Hold on, man. Hold on, man. You've been talking about it.

SPEAKER_01

They said you shouldn't be testing your partner.

SPEAKER_08

So he already got Hey, I ain't gonna lie. You have to test your partner. And I stand on it, and I don't care.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't never tested you. Yeah, in the beginning it was rough, you guys. It was rough because he But wait, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_08

Would I be the person I am today?

SPEAKER_01

As well, because I feel like the person I am today.

SPEAKER_00

If I met you today, would you still choose to be with me? Of course.

SPEAKER_07

But I feel like it would be because I feel like we wouldn't be the people we are today without each other. So that's why I'm like that's a little, that's a crazy question. Cause then if it was today and you never met me, you wouldn't be the same person. You see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I agree with that.

SPEAKER_08

Like you could be a worse person because you know, you you just made so many bad decisions until you met me.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's true. That's true. There was something else that uh asked that kind of like that too. What was that?

SPEAKER_07

Because I don't I don't think I would be nowhere near where I am. So that's why it's it's one of those questions like I would have to by 30, I would hope I would be where I am today. But it's hard because I feel like what we've gone through has made me the person I am. So if I didn't if I didn't day two and you lost your visa, I'm like, what the well, what's the visa?

SPEAKER_00

He means my working visa, not got not my debit visa. Yeah, we've been through some stuff for sure, but we chose to like stick it out together.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, so that's I feel like that that's that question is not hard, but it's just like the variables are so different.

SPEAKER_00

We would probably be really, really different. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Very different.

SPEAKER_00

But honestly, I probably would have been already with somebody that screwed me over, to be honest. Yeah, why are you why do you make such bad decisions?

SPEAKER_01

No, it's not about me. I think that it's the fact, like I said, I think that I go into it on 100%. I really think I do. I think I go into it with the right intentions. I think that I'm looking for the you know, the loyalty, the faithfulness, that like I'm looking for what I want and what I'm willing to give. But like I said, not all men want that, apparently. So I feel like I've gone to it like that, and then I've just been cheating on slide two, um, and just taken advantage of too. I feel like I like feel like my kind I think I'm a I think I used to be a lot nicer, definitely before you. I feel like it was a lot nicer. I think it was a lot more just like forgiving and like let you do what you I mean, I can't that's not my fault. I just feel like I had to kind of be like, at some point, I had to pay attention to those things and not accept it anymore. And I think I had to have a little bit more respect for myself, and I and I definitely think it got a little bit more tougher skin. And yeah, I just I don't play around anymore because I think if you looked at who I was before and what I was putting up with, you would say that was stupid. You would be like, that girl is so dumb. She does not love herself, she has no respect for herself, just like we have conversations. That's what I'll be saying about people now. That's what I'm saying. So I definitely had to change that. I had to change that, and so I'm proud of who I am now. Like, yeah, you know my boundaries. We have these conversations all the time. Like, you know, when I I hate to say like this, but like what I expect of you in a partner and what my boundaries are. And I feel like you have to have that because what I've realized is a lot of other people do not have boundaries and they don't have respect for other people's relationships, and that is the problem. So I feel like it's important if I can't control them that I control what's going on here in my relationship, which is like just knowing the do's and the don'ts, and like what would make me feel some type of way and why. Um, and I just feel like that's something I lacked before.

SPEAKER_07

So where you're where you're uh what you expect if we out of our relationship.

SPEAKER_06

I expect you to communicate with me like I feel like we're good in communication, but like definitely on all levels.

SPEAKER_01

Like like you said, let me know what you already do. Let me know where you're going.

SPEAKER_06

Let me know what you're planning to do, where you went, who was there.

SPEAKER_07

She knows me. She knows.

SPEAKER_01

Like, I don't know. We just had this conversation recently, too. Like, and there's things that I realize I wasn't v like communicating to you, but then I would be mad about something, and it's like, oh well, I guess he doesn't understand you know the extent of something and why I do. There's I'm never mad for no reason. That's one thing. I always have a reason. Um, but yeah, I feel like I just expect you to be loyal, faithful, communicate.

SPEAKER_06

Interesting, you know, respect my boundaries.

SPEAKER_05

Interesting.

SPEAKER_06

Yep. You done? Or you want me to ask a few?

SPEAKER_07

You can keep going.

SPEAKER_06

There's a lot.

SPEAKER_07

What's up to you, sister?

SPEAKER_01

Um, I'm trying to think of like what people usually always ask. Do you feel like you carry more of the responsibility in this relationship?

SPEAKER_08

Yes. I sure do.

SPEAKER_01

That's what a man does.

SPEAKER_08

What? That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01

Why I mean I'm sorry, I'm blame blocking my face.

SPEAKER_08

I know. I feel like I choose to, though. You know what I mean? I'm very uh, I don't want to say controlling, but I feel like I have routines. Once I get in those routines, that's just what it is. Yeah. But I also feel like with certain things, I just do it naturally because it fits in my routine. Like picking the kids up from school, taking them to school, I already work over there. It makes sense to put it in my routine. Yeah, plus like I also have the flexibility to do that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I can't do that right now. I'm sure like once you know, I'm not where I'm at. Right now, then um, I feel like some people be watching my steps, so yeah, be careful. Um, I just feel like then we definitely we'll be able it'll be just so much better. I'll definitely be able to help them out a lot more with that stuff. But I already know that he does, so I'm not even gonna mine's a no. I don't feel like I carry most of the responsibility. But honestly, honestly, but honestly, I'm okay with that in the sense of like it doesn't bother me that you do. I naturally truthfully, I naturally crave that in my partner that they I don't want to leave everything on your shoulders, but I also do love like a man that can make sure that we're good. Like, I don't want to have to worry about that because I had to do that all the time before. So, like, I just don't want that, but um, yeah, I still believe in like helping meeting each other halfway. So I already knew that you do.

Ambition Social Media And Being Present

SPEAKER_01

Are we equally ambitious or is one of us holding the other one back?

SPEAKER_08

I'm gonna let you answer that one. I'm gonna let you answer that one first.

SPEAKER_02

You want me to take accountability?

SPEAKER_08

No, I just want you to answer.

SPEAKER_01

I will say with all honesty, I only agree with this when it comes to social media.

SPEAKER_02

Let you answer in a minute.

SPEAKER_01

I only agree with this, and I I 1000% believe this. I only agree with this when it comes to social media and filming and videos.

SPEAKER_08

What do you mean by that?

SPEAKER_01

Because I feel like could there be a lot that I could be doing like I did back in the day when I was a YouTuber and like had brands reaching out to me, and I probably would be all in the mix with all these other YouTubers that are so YouTubers that are so famous now and successfully and financially well. But as the years have gone by, it is very hard for me to have the motivation, and not just motivation, but the energy. I'm just so tired, guys. Like I'm tired, I'm close to 40. Dang! And I am tired. I have worked so hard ever since I was able to work when I got my working visa, and I have busted my butt, and I'm just tired. I feel like I'm just at a point where like I can't for my mental health, I can't do what he does. Like, you don't understand. He's like working when he's not at work. We watch a show, he's working. When I say working, I mean like he's editing, he's editing a podcast, he's editing a video, he's editing a clip, he's he's always, and I don't think that this is bad, and I think that what you're doing is gonna work out great for you. But for me, I like to live more in the moment. It's not about just not being motivated, like I'm just not that social media crazy anymore. Like, I really don't care to be in a camera all the time. I don't really care to pull it out and record moments like I used to, and I don't want to be not present. I feel like it's I feel I feel like there's another question on here too, is like, are we raising are we raising our kids the way that we really truly want to together? And I think that's one thing that we do lack in our relationship and our household is that everyone is always on a device, and it really does bother me. Everyone's always on a device. I don't feel like we make memories as much as we should without cameras and without electronics. And so to me, and when I see that a lot, I do the opposite. You do that all the time, and so I feel like I hold us back in the sense of like we could probably be, yeah. I feel like I could probably be doing a lot more with my social media, my TikTok, YouTube, doing exactly what he does. But I just can only handle so much, also. Like I'm already working for me, that's a lot. You work and you do it all. I mentally can't handle that. That's just that's where I'm at. But yeah, I do think that I hold this back because I'm I'm sure that we could probably be building an empire together, you know?

SPEAKER_08

Interesting.

SPEAKER_01

Other than that, I don't I don't you tell me because we both have spending problems, so it ain't that it's ain't had nothing to do with it.

SPEAKER_08

Spending problems. This is are you equally ambitious? See how she takes a shot it meant like see how she's taking shots?

SPEAKER_01

I thought it meant holding each other back. Oh, equally ambitious. Yeah, so that's my answer. What's yours?

SPEAKER_08

I feel like um just naturally. I'm just I'm just that guy, you know what I'm saying? Naturally, I just you know what I'm saying, just get to it. My kids know that dad will get it done no matter what. They know that that's just who I am. I feel like I've just you know I don't know. I just I just do it. I'm always tired, but I still do it.

SPEAKER_01

But you're always working, I'm always working, and I feel like that's great, it's just not always healthy for the people around you to see that because that's all I saw growing up, and I feel like it's crazy because if I tell my mom, like you weren't really there, and she's like, Yes, I was, but my mom was always working, and then we just never had real life moments together because she was always working. I've that's all I've ever known, and I never wanted to do that to my kids, but I feel like even when they were younger, I was always working and had to sacrifice so much without them with me sometimes, you know. So I feel like I just don't want to do that now. But it's hard finding like the balance of like trying to be successful, but and you know, and then trying to be present. So I don't really know if it's like a lack of ambition, it's more of just like I don't really in this moment in my life for a while now, like I don't really want to be that busy. I'm trying to slow down and try to really enjoy my life, and that's where I feel like I'm actually happier now. If you haven't noticed, I'm a lot happier now that I'm not putting that pressure on myself to do X, Y, and Z. And I've been saying that, you know, every now and then I'm like, nope, I'm not doing that today. Nope, I'm not. And that is healthy for me because I need to be able to be a hundred percent for my kids and my family. Like, I'm not gonna be happy if I'm feeling like I'm pressured and rushed to do all these things and I'm not enjoying my days off, and I'm not, you know, stuff like that. So I don't know how you do it, but as long as you're happy, that's fine. I just feel like sometimes you have to kind of pause and look around real life.

SPEAKER_06

You know? Yeah.

Resentment Appreciation And The Little Things

SPEAKER_01

Do you resent me for anything?

SPEAKER_05

Do I resent you? I mean, what is there to resent you for?

SPEAKER_06

I don't know, it's just a question. Those are questions that people don't want to ask each other.

SPEAKER_05

I'm trying to think if there's anything that I could resent you for. No. No. Do you resent me? No.

SPEAKER_08

Or anything?

SPEAKER_06

Nope.

SPEAKER_08

What about that one time I lit your car on fire? No, I'm just playing.

SPEAKER_01

See, he always got a joke.

SPEAKER_08

Hey, you never know.

SPEAKER_01

Can I just tell you some things? I've been wanting to say this to you, and I don't I don't do the tech thing. So this kind of little bit, it's still about it, but you're gonna cuss me out. No, I do want to say some things, even though you irritate me. I would you want to say some things and it goes into like why people why do people I don't know, or like why people think that, you know, I think you're so great or whatever. You know the things that I love about you? What I love that when it's a simple thing. When we're at a Nike store and I'm like frustrated because I can't find the low socks, you will go looking for them. So that I'm happy that I found the low the low Nike socks. I love that you put gas in my car whenever I don't ask I don't ask you to. You just do it. I love that you cook on the days that you know I do not want to come home and cook. Or you make sure that we just we eat. The simple things, like what there's like so many things I'd be thinking in the moment, like that is something that I that's what makes me love you so much. Like you always make sure that I get what I want. If it's my organic cranberry juice, like you'll get it. If I need this X, Y, and Z, you go and you find it. It's just like the little little thing. So I just wanted to know I do appreciate you for that.

SPEAKER_08

You're trying to go you're trying to go to the bedroom.

SPEAKER_01

It's just little things that I do feel so lucky because I know that no one else is like that. That's just what I think. Like the like when you did that, I was like, oh. Somebody else would just be like, oh, you didn't find them? Okay, let's go. But you knew that I was like, bummed, I didn't find I couldn't find them anywhere, and I'm just like ready to go. And then you go and you look for them. It's like things that you do to like make sure that I'm happy, and I do appreciate that.

Healing Growth And Becoming More Mindful

SPEAKER_08

I ain't gonna lie. Trying to make a woman happy, it's what it ain't for the week, it ain't for the week. All right, the last question, last question. Do you think okay? Answer this truthfully. Do you think I was healed when you met me?

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_08

Like how that obvious. Um, I don't I feel like it's obvious now, but I feel like in the moment it might not have been as obvious.

SPEAKER_01

I don't think I was thinking about it in the moment.

SPEAKER_08

Interesting.

SPEAKER_01

But I don't and I know for sure now that you were not, but I also know that you were not certain about me, or like certain about what you wanted, because you were definitely still looking. You know? Interesting. Yeah, I don't think that you were healed. So we definitely went into it with that, like yeah. I don't think we knew that then, but for sure, yeah, no, you were not. Do you think that you were?

SPEAKER_08

I don't think I even knew that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say. I think that's how it is most of the time. People don't realize that they're not healed.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It brings a lot of problems.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, you were crazy in the beginning.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, it was not your crazy.

SPEAKER_08

Every little thing, you would just cry.

SPEAKER_01

I don't remember that.

SPEAKER_08

You always every little thing.

SPEAKER_01

You're the one that came into my life six months after I just got over a horrible relationship.

SPEAKER_08

You hear this? She complained that it came into her life.

SPEAKER_01

But it's just like you can't do that.

SPEAKER_08

On God's time and come on, don't do that though.

SPEAKER_01

You can't don't ever go into a relationship where someone's been, you know, emotionally and physically abused and cheated on, and they're telling you this, and then you think that they're gonna be a hundred percent. If they have not sought therapy or help of some sort, or like tried to heal, self-heal, do not expect to them to give you a hundred percent. You better, like we said, we you better be willing to get in it and try to fix it together or whatever, or try to be there for each other and heal together, because if not, it ain't gonna work. So, yeah, I don't remember. I don't even honestly remember a lot of who how I was in the beginning.

SPEAKER_08

So you're very snappy.

SPEAKER_01

I still am.

SPEAKER_08

Nah, in the beginning, you were different, you were a different you were very difficult in the beginning.

SPEAKER_01

I know. So that of course I was.

SPEAKER_06

It was very difficult.

SPEAKER_08

Come on, man. Me out of all people, me. Anyway, so no, so what do you think was something that you changed over time since being in this relationship?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, one thing I think that I've changed, but I don't think that you see it, truthfully, is that I do think that I am more open-minded. I think I am because I feel like before I would never be okay with you going to Vegas. That's not a good place to be without your man. Um, so I feel like those are kind of things I think that you don't acknowledge, but like I'm okay with that. I if you're on the game, I'm open to that without you being in my face all the time, but it's more about you being loud, it's not about you being on the game.

SPEAKER_08

Are we trying to be clingy on purpose? It's just not me. It's just not me.

SPEAKER_01

I don't think I'm clingy either, though.

SPEAKER_08

I don't know how people do that. Like, I hate that.

SPEAKER_01

Am I clingy?

SPEAKER_08

No, no, I'm not. Yeah, not even close.

SPEAKER_01

Like I said in the other one, I'm good with my I have healed a lot, and like I I feel like that's my growth. I've I'm okay being by myself. Of course, I expect like us to spend time and everything, you know, but yeah.

SPEAKER_08

I think the biggest thing that I've changed is being mindful.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Why you say that?

SPEAKER_01

Because you were not mindful before. That was hard. That would have been a deal breaker for me at some point.

SPEAKER_08

She just kicked me when I'm down. You hear this? Hey, dang.

SPEAKER_01

Hey, I hear yours. You tell me this stuff every day. I don't want to hear it.

SPEAKER_08

Dang.

SPEAKER_01

So he don't be telling you the stuff that he be telling me.

SPEAKER_08

What I'd be telling you that I don't be telling people.

SPEAKER_01

You don't like constructive crit criticism. You always have an attitude. Fix your face.

SPEAKER_08

Oh, I say that to you? Yes. Oh. Well, every day.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so don't be tripping when I tell you stuff. Yeah. He what was that saying? Oh, yeah, you were not mindful. Now he is like, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, what does that mean?

SPEAKER_01

He's very mindful. He thinks of things to take the load off of my shoulders. So he does the laundry. I I rarely ever touch laundry. If I do, it's because I'm washing my scrubs. He does the laundry, then he puts it away. And you know, he's learning like put the food away after we're done eating because I cooked. Um you make food, you cook when I don't want to cook. You put gas in my car without me asking.

SPEAKER_08

Um, I even let her wax me a couple of times. Worst experience of my life.

SPEAKER_01

That's his experience. I'm a great waxer. He just doesn't like being trying to be.

SPEAKER_08

I was trying to be a good man.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, so you're trimming your underarms now?

SPEAKER_08

I ain't getting waxed ever again.

SPEAKER_01

What about your unibrow? That does not hurt.

SPEAKER_08

See, this is the thing. She doesn't understand what doesn't hurt to women doesn't mean it doesn't hurt to men.

SPEAKER_01

I wax plenty of men and they don't be acting like you. And I tell them too. They're like, Does your husband get waxed? I'm like, he acts like a baby. I'm not, he doesn't want to be waxed no more.

SPEAKER_08

See how Erica talk about me.

SPEAKER_01

Do where did that even come from? Anyways, well, I just wanted to say that I wanted to do this video. There were so many other questions, but guys, it goes too long. So I just want to do this video because it's been like more on my mind lately, like how people I have these conversations at work, and people are always asking me, like, how do you make it work? And I'll tell them things about him, and they're like, How? How do you how do you guys get to that point? And I say time, effort, you have to want to want to do that. Um, so I just want to talk about it, make a video about it, and then also see where his head was at. But yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

And thanks to y'all all the time. Erica beats me. All right, she sure does. We've had so much technical difficulties this episode. Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we did answer other questions, but they did not record.

SPEAKER_08

So my goodness. But I hate technology.

Wrap-Up Tech Issues And What To Follow

SPEAKER_01

Is there anything else you want to say before we go?

SPEAKER_08

Um, like, subscribe, uh, and leave a comment. Uh, like it was like a chess. We're keeping that in there. Okay. I want to show, I want to show y'all how disgusting Erica really is. It was a chess burp. I don't care if you're gonna be a bit.

SPEAKER_01

Um, Avery does vlogs now, guys, so follow Tino Cruz. Tino Cruz. Yeah, at the end. He does vlogs, they're great, so check them out. Follow his TikTok, Tino Cruz and Cuts by Cruz.

SPEAKER_08

Follow me on TikTok, Tino Cruz and Cuts by Cruz.

SPEAKER_01

And that one stopped recording. But yeah, that's gonna be the end of this podcast. Uh, we're gonna try to be a little bit more consistent when Avery starts to be more consistent. We'll let you know.

SPEAKER_08

I know you like it.

SPEAKER_01

But that's gonna be the end of this podcast because now I gotta take April and her friend to the pool.

SPEAKER_08

So, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

We will see you guys in the next one.

SPEAKER_08

Hasta la Wego, hasta la vista, Erica, say something in Spanish. Okay, never mind. She don't know Spanish, y'all, so we out.