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Overdramatic and Problematic
Bricks, Feathers, and Mean Girls: Teen Life Uncensored
Teenage friendships can be brutally difficult when they take unexpected turns, especially when betrayal and bullying enter the picture. This raw episode tackles two heartbreaking stories from our community that showcase the darker side of adolescent relationships.
Have you faced a similar situation? Reach out to us with your own stories - we're here to listen, support, and maybe even offer some feathers to replace those bricks you've been carrying.
Overdramatic and Problematic, don't we? Yes, so today we're going to be reading stories you guys sent in and hopefully giving you some helpful advice. Yeah, hopefully.
Speaker 1:But first, how was everybody's day? How?
Speaker 2:was your week. How was your life? You know any traumatic events.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they were waiting for another episode, so they're happy now. How was your day?
Speaker 2:My day was good actually, I just kind of chilled. How was your day? My day was good. Actually, I just kind of chilled.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I heard something eventful happen yesterday.
Speaker 2:Oh, yes, okay. So I'm a little bit sicky, like scratchy throat, and I didn't go to school today, nor did I go to school yesterday and yesterday, because it's the one day I don't go to school. It just so happens to be the day that something eventful happens, which I feel like isn't always the case. It just so happens to be the day that something eventful happens which I feel like.
Speaker 1:Isn't that always the case? It's always the case every time. The one day you don't go to school is the day that like something crazy happens.
Speaker 2:Chad Michael Murray shows up and is trying to find a new bride. Like god, pick me, please. Anyways, what happened? Oh right, um, my school went into lockdown and someone broke in and I'm like the the school one day one day you're not at school.
Speaker 1:You've been to school like pretty much every day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my attendance record is actually really good, and so the like teachers are like, oh, it's just a drill, it's just a drill. But then they're walking around being like, oh, have the cops caught him yet? Whoa, like sorry, yeah, cute Isn't it.
Speaker 1:Anyways, how was your day? I had also an eventful day. Yeah, I woke up at 4 am this morning because I couldn't sleep. I got like five hours of sleep and probably I'm not gonna lie a lot of the people listening are probably like I get three hours of sleep every day and I like function, but I need to sleep to function. Yeah, I, I really do anyways, um, and she gets so angry.
Speaker 2:She, like 9 pm hits and this woman is like nap. I'm done, I'm ready, and if you come around her, like any time after nine, be prepared because she will chop your head off.
Speaker 1:Speaking from personal experience, from nine o'clock is when I start to downgrade my energy, like to get ready anyways.
Speaker 1:So I, um, I had a crazy day, but the most, the thing that stood out to me, the most that I actually want to talk about, yeah, was I had assembly today at school. Yeah, and a teacher I'm not gonna say who, of course yeah, as a teacher goes up and he's saying the notices and then he goes, oh, and make sure to sign up for the men in business for next year. And he goes and I'm like already kind of confused and he goes yeah, I have had quite a few people come up to me and ask but unfortunately this one is just for the boys. Shocking, can they not just make one for boys and one for girls? Women in business and men in business?
Speaker 2:Someone's going to comment women in STEM question mark. What happened to the men in STEM? They're taking a stance. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, but genuinely and like I get it.
Speaker 1:He had people come up to him Girls. Obviously he said this Girls came up to him interested, wanting to do this business thing came up to him interested, wanting to do this business thing. Would you not just create also a female business? Do you just? Do you guys not just have a business class? Yeah, we have business classes, but this was like I don't actually know fully what it was about, because as soon as I heard that I was like see, that's insane.
Speaker 2:You know a vibe that's reminding me of and like technically has. Have you seen Gilmore Girls? Yes, of course. You know the one episode where Rory's dating Dean and then they're talking about like they watched uh, it's the Donna something show and it's a really weird one where she dresses up like a 50s midwife and she's like cooking him like a bunch of food and she's like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I think I remember.
Speaker 2:She's like she's dressed like a 50s housewife, not midwife housewife, and she's like oh, husband, you're home. No, babe, blink twice if you're in danger. Do they have a gun to your head?
Speaker 1:please, exactly. I just I thought, yeah, I thought it was crazy, that's insane, yeah, but anyways, but actually to be fair, I can't even hate.
Speaker 2:I was having this conversation with one of my friends the other day and we were like we were in class and I don't know what sparked it, but we were complaining about like how we have rights and she was like, okay, women fought for centuries for these rights. And I'm like, okay, I don't want them take them back.
Speaker 1:I said that to you on the last podcast.
Speaker 2:Like oh soz like I get that. You like died for them, but I don't know, maybe live, maybe a bit insensitive, but that's okay, I'm kidding guys I am kidding. I'm so grateful to everybody.
Speaker 1:I'm kidding anyways that was my little rant yeah, who decided that like? Because, like of course, of course men in business amazing, but also do women in business, so we can both have the opportunity to do a business class we have like a subject if it's no, but I'm getting like it's like an extracurricular, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, would they not just do business?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I think they should just do like men in business and women in business. Why the segregation? Well, they're just doing men at the moment, so but yeah, I wasn't.
Speaker 2:I wasn't truly happy about that. We're taking back my people no, quite literally.
Speaker 1:I'm guessing he probably runs the class. I'm guessing he's the one who's like, decided to do it and he's like I only want my boys.
Speaker 2:He's gonna find out you're doing a podcast. I'm like the only podcast worth listening to the alpha male podcast oh no, I'm scared, I'm gonna get expelled from school.
Speaker 1:He's gonna be like he, he I didn't say his name, but he's gonna be like I know you were talking about.
Speaker 2:Oh, I know you were talking about me you're really flattering yourself, thinking he's gonna bother to listen to women speak for like 40 minutes oh bless, yeah, should we get into it. Yes, okay, we've got some really good story. Sorry, it's okay, guys, we've got some really good stories.
Speaker 1:Sorry, it's okay, guys, I just hit my computer, my laptop. We've got some really good stories for you guys. Today we have an exciting one submitted from one of our followers.
Speaker 2:Yes, and then we have one that was recommended to us on Reddit yes which is really cool.
Speaker 1:So we get like one from our listeners and then one from it is still a teenage one from Reddit, but one that was recommended, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 2:Should we just straight up read it? Yeah, go up.
Speaker 1:You go first Go. So I, a 16-year-old female, met my friend let's call him James at a sports event approximately three years ago. Sport, sorry, continue. We hit it off real hard and from then we were unstoppable. We shared everything our secrets, our dreams and our fears. We hung out almost every day and I thought of him as one of my closest friends. Recently, james had a party. I was really looking forward to it, because we always had a great time together. However, I didn't receive an invitation. No, at first I thought it might have been a mistake, so I asked him about it. He told me he decided to invite some new friends he had just met two months ago instead. This hurt a lot, of course, sorry, this hurt a lot, especially since we've known each other for three years. I tried to keep my cool and ask him why he didn't invite me. Fair enough. Instead of giving me a clear answer, he got defensive and told me I was being dramatic, Overdramatic and problematic.
Speaker 1:This is why they're our follower, sorry. The next day I saw pictures from the party on social media. It looked like everyone had a great time and it made me feel even worse. See, I would cry, I would cry. I decided to confront him again, hoping for some clarity or an apology. Instead, he got angry and told me to kill myself.
Speaker 1:No, because I was being too sensitive and clingy. I was shocked and devastated. I couldn't believe that someone I considered a close friend would say something so hurtful. I've been feeling really down and questioning our entire friendship. Am I the asshole for being upset about not being invited to this party?
Speaker 2:No, absolutely not. No, I would throw hands. You're better than me, you're very demure, you're very classy. Yeah, exactly, I would have egged his house.
Speaker 1:Let's look at the facts. Let's go back at the facts. Okay, who doesames think he is so 16 our age? Okay, so we've got. We've got that fact. They actually can't throw punches to say sorry, continue friends for three years three years is a long time that's. We've been friends for like four, four years that's only one more year, yeah actually me and maria knew each other when we were little but we didn't know that.
Speaker 2:We found out like a second class together and then we were yapping. She was like, wait a minute, I was in that class. Anyways, going back, not the point.
Speaker 1:Okay, so they were friends for three years, which is a very long time. They were inseparable, which is like kind of besties.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then, yeah, besties, james has a party. Yeah, doesn't invite um the op.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, let's call her chloe, doesn't invite chloe and then gets angry at chloe and telling her to kill herself is wild. That's I. What were you doing at this party, mate? What were you doing?
Speaker 1:first of all, chloe, like I'm really sorry that that happened to you. That sounds terrible. You're not the arsehole?
Speaker 2:no, no, no, not at all. James is clearly the arsehole. Yeah, because, okay, listen, like it's like it's one thing to be like, oh soz, like I couldn't. I could only invite a certain amount of people or, genuinely, maybe just James has a different understanding of their friendship and he doesn't think they're as close as Chloe does. So he, he didn't invite her. That's like understandable to an extent, but the part that really gets me is that he invited people he's known for like two months. That's crazy.
Speaker 1:The part that gets me is him telling her to kill herself.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. That's genuinely insane. That's insane For him not inviting her. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And him telling her Calling her dramatic. That's crazy. Such a bad thing as well. Like I really hope that Chloe hasn't been too affected by this.
Speaker 2:I hope she's okay. I hope we can give you some advice. We like love you so much. I'll invite you to my buffet. We love you. It's next month. Please pull up, yes exactly.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's crazy. James is not invited. No, that's crazy. Well, look first. Yeah you go. I totally agree with you, chloe. You're not the asshole. No, but it at the start of your message. It does sound like at the start you had a bit of FOMO, which is totally understandable. Yeah, look.
Speaker 2:I, I get FOMO so bad, like I see, and this is so bad. But if I see my friends hanging out without me, I'm like, oh so you will hate me now you will want me dead. Just say that Literally. Just say that. Literally. Just say you never, ever liked me. Like, just say that.
Speaker 1:Anyways, but this is a bit more intense. Yeah, 100%.
Speaker 2:If that happened to me, nah, I'm pulling a Hannah Baker. That's my 13th reason.
Speaker 1:I wonder if there were any like red flags throughout this friendship before it led to this, or do you reckon it just because it sounds like it just came out of the blue? Yeah, like it just came out of genuinely the blue.
Speaker 2:That's it. But again, like the fact that he invited people that he's known for two months, that's crazy, that's insane. Because I get it's like it's one thing if you don't have enough room or you just you choose, you choose. You opt to invite certain friends, or maybe you don't want to mix friend groups, that's one thing, absolutely. But inviting people you just met, over a friend of three years, is crazy Because from what she says, they're friends from a sporting event, so it's, you know, maybe they're just close at this event.
Speaker 1:That they go to yeah right, but like, yeah, that's a good point Looking back, but still, me personally Generally not.
Speaker 2:Okay, no, that's crazy when I because, like, look, when I plan, like my birthday, so I think I'm like, okay, if I'm going to invite so and so and so and so they're in a friend group with a third person, so I have to invite that third person, right, because otherwise they're going to feel left out. Yeah, if I'm inviting people from this event, that I have to invite the rest of those people and I can't invite these couple of friends, because they're friends with those people that I also know that are going to be upset if they're not invited. Like it's so much more than just like I'm having a birthday. At least that's my thought. What do you think?
Speaker 1:I think communication. Yeah, Because it sounds like it sounds too big to have just come out of the blue Like it sounds like maybe there would have been some like things that happened before, or maybe James was like drifting away or something. So, some communication about it before this happened.
Speaker 2:But regardless.
Speaker 1:Nothing justifies his behavior that's insane, that's insane, that's insane.
Speaker 2:We also did, babe if you're seeing this, please, I beg of you, seek help, because that's crazy, that's, yeah, but what I would have thrown hands. What I wanted to say is that throughout this.
Speaker 1:It does say that chloe did communicate with james, but I'm just thinking. Possibly before this there was like some kind of something that that happened, because this is so out of the blue and I am I?
Speaker 1:I think this is insane and you are definitely not the arsehole, chloe James. Wow, james sounds like he's having some issues at home, yeah, or something. Well, because, look, or the friends he invited two months, maybe he's doing something with his, these friends that he that Chloe doesn't do. Because, look, or the friends he invited two months, maybe he's doing something with these friends that Chloe doesn't do.
Speaker 2:Because, look, I can understand kind of where he would come from, in the sense of like, maybe they've grown apart, maybe he's opting to invite certain friend groups, maybe he just didn't have enough space at his party. But tell her that, yeah, absolutely, if you didn't invite me to your birthday and I pulled up upset like it seems petty, like oh my god, you didn't get invited to his birthday, like whatever, suck it up. No, like that's, that's like the friendship, like I always hit the mic. That like that questions the friendship itself.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. I actually think could have possibly happened. I think I already said this, but James maybe is doing things with these new friends that Chloe doesn't do, and he either doesn't want to put Chloe in that situation or he doesn't sound that nice. He just sounds like he didn't. Really, I wouldn't give you that impression. Yeah, he didn't want chloe there to make make him feel bad about what he's doing with these new friends yeah, and even if it's not that the case, that's just.
Speaker 2:No, chloe, you're not the arsehole.
Speaker 2:You're not the arsehole, you really are, and I really like if, if people don't believe that chloe isn't the arsehole like, stop listening to us, please, big help please, bye, bye, because, like with what you're saying about having friends that are doing like, I've been in that situation where I've like been friends with people that are doing kinds of stuff that I don't really engage in. I and I. That that kind of has happened to me before. They were all hanging out and I didn't get invited and I brought it up and I was like what the hell? Because it's not like it's one or two people, like it's a group of your friends hanging out without you, like yeah, I was pissed. And then the girl's one of my friends. She was like we're still friends now, like we've moved on from this. But she was like, oh yeah, just because, like we know you don't do that and we don't want to feel like judged and we also don't want to make you uncomfy and I'm like girl, you should have just said it yeah, you should like.
Speaker 2:Why don't you just say that instead of?
Speaker 1:like choosing, yeah, or like ask and tell me what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2:From what it sounds like, it doesn't even tell. Like james told chloe like, hey, you're not gonna be invited. She just found out like all her friends were going and then she was like, oh well, I would pull maleficent, I would pull up to the party. I would curse your child. Yeah, I'm trying to read I would curse your child, I would curse you. I would smash your face into the cake. I would smash the windows. I'd bust the windows, yeah so you're right.
Speaker 1:It sounds like that Chloe found out about this party throughout through other people. Yeah, because it says. However, I didn't receive an invitation, but they knew that the party was happening.
Speaker 2:And the seeing pictures on social media and everybody having a fun time. That's crazy.
Speaker 1:That's where social media is really can be heartbreaking.
Speaker 2:Yeah, nah, not me, not me, not me. No, I wouldn't know immediately, no, immediately, no.
Speaker 1:I I feel really bad for you. I'm really sorry that this happened to you. This sounds like it. It really hurt and yeah, I'm guessing we won't get to you in time for you to hear this like straight away.
Speaker 2:I'm shooting her reply. I'm honestly babe. I'm offering you my services. We will beat them up together. Can I throw a punch?
Speaker 1:Absolutely. Let's do it.
Speaker 2:No, actually, I actually I don't know how to hold my thumbs, like how do you hold your?
Speaker 1:thumbs. You have to make sure that it's on the outside, but your thumbs have to be down so that you don't, you're breaking your thumbs.
Speaker 2:You have to lock your wrist as well. My wrist always goes too far up or too far, I think. My wrist always goes far down. We can practice before we go to.
Speaker 1:James' house, and then we'll just knock down the door, police style.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, I want to kick a door in one of these days, what do we think?
Speaker 1:his last name is James Potter Get down here.
Speaker 2:Oh, my god, james Potter, did you ever go into the marauders deep dive? No, really, I was. I was a big, well, because I was a big harry potter child. Yeah, I do know this. Yeah, well, you weren't, weren't you? No, I went down the marauders deep dive. I've been here since the original like fan cast, but james potter's like in like a threesome with lily, his wife, and his best friend's brother. I saw that that like ages ago and I didn't really look into it.
Speaker 2:And again I say his wife and his best friend's little brother.
Speaker 1:Okay, wow, we are so sorry, chloe, for talking about.
Speaker 2:Harry Potter. Wait, wait, chloe, babe. One thing really quickly, in case my other fans are listening to this. The one that I will forever die on is Wolfstar. I'm a Wolfstar. Do you know what Wolfstar is? No, but anyways, chloe, sorry girl.
Speaker 1:Yeah, soy, soy, soy, soy, Soy sauce, soy milk. Sorry, chloe, we really want to be here for you.
Speaker 2:No, we are. We are here for you, but.
Speaker 1:ADHD is taking us in a whole nother direction, but we are here for you, chloe, and so sound advice yeah is to, this is actually him. No, yes, I'll pick him, but listen, listen to this. Actually, this has actually worked for me. I saw this on an instagram reel and it's actually not stop.
Speaker 2:No, I actually love this advice. Just lie and say you saw it on tiktok just lie, please, okay.
Speaker 1:so when I wake up at 4am and I don't want to go straight onto TikTok because it can be a bit much, You're going into Instagram reels? Yeah, because I'm on like posts and then I just press on the look and then it gives me like soap cutting videos and then it takes me to like other places.
Speaker 2:Anyways, just lie and say you go on TikTok. Just listen to this analogy. No, just lie, sorry, go. No, I believe, go Sorry.
Speaker 1:This analogy. I've actually been using it for the past few days. It's actually genuinely worked for me, so I hope it can work for you. Yeah. So imagine, okay, at the moment this situation is feeling like a brick, like it's like hitting Chloe hard, right, and the analogy is, instead of taking everything in life as a brick, think about it as a feather and visualize a feather floating away that tickle and watch the feather float away in the wind, how tickle.
Speaker 1:Watch the feather float away in the wind, yeah, and genuinely watch it leave. Watch it leave, because I have used this actually for the past two days when little things have inconvenienced me. I have used this actually for the past two days when little things have inconvenienced me. I think about this feather, like I mean my situation becoming a feather, and I literally move my head watching the feather float away and it's gone and I don't feel it anymore. This one might be a bit harder, because surprisingly stabilized for an individual.
Speaker 2:Because me personally me, no I can't picture a little feather. That little feather would join a bushfire. That would be James's entire possessions, his house, his loved one, his friends and family.
Speaker 1:That's okay to think that as well. I think we talked about how much more hatred I have in my soul. It lightens the load. It depends on what kind of person, chloe is. Yeah, but just try it. This is harder because it's quite a more emotional a more emotional situation than what I've been talking about, but it might land the load like just try it, don't call me crazy until you try it, because it has actually genuinely worked for me.
Speaker 2:So that's just something that I saw that possibly you could try and then, if that doesn't work, hit me up and we'll slash his tires. Yeah, exactly, hit his car, I mean if he has a car yet. I've dug my key into the side of his pretty little suit of four-wheel drive Gone country on you.
Speaker 1:Girl Carved my name into his leather suit. But yeah, how crazy is that story? I feel really bad for her. I'm sorry, chloe, but stuff like that has happened to me. Yeah, to me too, and unfortunately, life throws these spirals at us.
Speaker 2:And it seems hard to just be like, oh my God, just drop him, because that's your friend, it sucks what he did, but yeah, if someone's willing to do that to you and then when you go to talk to him about it, tell you to kill yourself.
Speaker 1:Which is so serious?
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, that's insane.
Speaker 1:Look, some people are in your life for a reason and some people are in it for a season. Oh, okay, shakespeare get into it, and James has been in it for a season. So bye-bye, james. Think about the good times that you had and just tell him to get the fuck out now, like he can get the fuck out of your life. You had the good times at your sports event, yeah, and now he can go with his druggie friends. Look, it's okay, we don't know if he has druggie friends.
Speaker 2:Sorry, I don't know if you have. We have nothing against druggies, guys. It's just like the story builds up. Yeah, no, no, You're doing great sweetie. Look, with what you said about people being in your life for a reason one, my mindset with that is everybody in your life is there to teach you a lesson. Right, Like, let's say, the same situation keeps happening to you. It's because you've not learned that lesson.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And so, like I had an issue with a friend of mine and it was something that had happened to me multiple times before, yeah, and I literally I was like, why does this keep happening to me? And then I stopped and I looked at the situations that that kind of stuff had happened and I was like, girl, it's because you always, you always make the same mistake, you always put too much trust, you always, like, you let this happen. And so once I learned that and I was like, okay, I'm gonna'm going to take a big step back. I've learned my lesson. I'm not going to repeat that. That friend that I was having issues with. She was out of my life for a while. She's back in it now. She's a completely different person, because she doesn't have to teach me that lesson any longer.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. You have a different mindset now obviously. I think with I absolutely agree though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I absolutely agree though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thank you. I genuinely agree because, same as me, things in my past. At the time it was so emotionally upsetting and draining, but now I'm grateful that those experiences happened because I have come out a better person. Yeah, sorry, you were saying about James.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I agree with you. I just yeah, I think we're on the same page about this one. We sound so high and mighty telling Chloe no girl, just move on. But seriously, this person is not someone who should be your friend.
Speaker 1:First have a night of ice cream A tub of ice cream watching.
Speaker 2:Gilmore Girls. The things that are getting us are totally different.
Speaker 1:I'm preying on his downfall. We are both preying on his downfall. We're such negative people, no, but Chloe's our girl our girl like she's.
Speaker 2:She's our supporter and we don't know if her name's Chloe. That's not her name, that's just something we gave the OP. It's okay, it doesn't matter, okay, it? Doesn't matter, but yeah, we love you the emails are anonymous, so we're gonna give you guys a name. Babe, you know who you are. You're our Chloe yes it's probably like Lily Sasha.
Speaker 1:Tiffany, something you know, but yeah, we love you, you know. You know, stay strong, chloe.
Speaker 2:You've got this. We believe in you. Have your time of mourning, because that's normal experience, and then try and move past it and, honestly, if that's not good enough and you feel the need to get aggressive, like I said, hit me up. I will be there. I will be there, she'll bring I don't know, bring a.
Speaker 1:You know how. The analogy of the brick She'll bring the brick, not the feather.
Speaker 2:Smash it. Don't let things weigh on you like a brick. Envision the feather, and if that doesn't work, bring the brick back in. You can hit them with it.
Speaker 1:No, give the brick to Maria, she'll hit them with it. Take away the brick from your inner self, but give it to Maria and she'll deal with it.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, we hope that helped you in any way, babe?
Speaker 1:Yeah, in any way, even if it just like helped with us reading it to you, maybe seeing it from a different perspective or just hearing it, rather than it only being in your head and not being able to tell anyone that sucks. Moving on, moving on. Okay, this is our little Reddit story that we got recommended?
Speaker 2:Are we ready? This one's a little bit different. Am I the arsehole for getting my sister expelled from school?
Speaker 1:yes, yeah, I mean depends what she did but like I mean, it's your sister.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, if I do you get a sister. If my sister did that to me, I'd actually whoop her. But anyways, let's hear the 14M recently got my twin sister, 14f, expelled from school after reporting her for bullying. Twin, twin, twin. You're twins, but for bullying.
Speaker 1:I stand so strong against bullying, but let's hear it. Let's hear what it is.
Speaker 2:I don't think I did anything wrong and my grandpa, 72m, is on my side, but my parents, 40m and 40F, think I betrayed my sister. Quick pause.
Speaker 1:I love the ages of the grandpa. Quick pause. I know we know what it means, but just in case anybody's confused, f means female, m means male. I just wanted to clarify in case you're confused. I'm just doing this so I can see, and then from now on you'll understand what we mean by 14F. Sorry, continue.
Speaker 2:It's okay. My sister has never been the nicest person. She got in trouble for bullying in elementary school and earlier in middle school and has gone to detention and ISS before, but this is the worst punishment she's gotten so far. She can be mean to our siblings and cousins too if she wants to. We are in eighth grade now Eighth grade and expelled. That's so young to get expelled, yeah, and to be known as a bully, but anyway, okay. A few weeks ago I was playing basketball outside during lunch, which we're allowed to do. Me and my friends were having a good time when we saw a boy crying on the grass Are we?
Speaker 1:just like oh my God, I should have reacted to the boy crying on the grass but I was going to say are we just really lazy? Because everybody's like sporty and all of our followers and stories are about sport and we're just here like a fat potato sitting on a couch reading sports stories. That's what you got from that Boy crying on the grass. Continue.
Speaker 2:sorry Me and my friends want to see what was wrong. This boy was telling us about how he was being bullied by a group of kids for being preppy. He posts skincare routines on TikTok, starbucks iced coffee genuinely seen as more feminine male aesthetic Dude. He's getting money off this. Kids were calling him gay and the F slur when he's not gay. I have so much to say on that, but we'll circle back. We told him that we thought he was cool. We started discussing skincare and fashion and we don't know much about it. So me and my friends were trying to talk about Nike and stuff about fashion that we did know. So me and my friends were trying to talk about Nike and stuff about fashion that we did know Mostly sports stuff and he actually knew quite a bit about it and said he's taking courses at a local college about fashion history.
Speaker 1:That's really cool.
Speaker 2:And he's also in eighth grade like us. That's insane Doing that by eighth grade. What a baddie. What I like Juan.
Speaker 2:Okay, over the few weeks we started to hang out with him more and more. We were at a park playing with him and he dropped his phone. One of my friends picked it up and unintentionally opened up the messages on instagram, since he got a notification for it. He saw someone text him homophobic stuff. The boy noticed my sister was one of the kids sending him the messages. We told him it wasn't okay and that we'd go to the ap with him. I think that's assistant principal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my sister and her friends called, were called into the office and they all got into a bunch of trouble. It was her, three other girls and two other boys, one of which is her boyfriend. What my sister was the ringleader and the cruelest, so she got the harshest punishment and was expelled. Oh my God. My mother and father said I shouldn't have gone to AP and instead talked to them. My grandfather has a different perspective, since he was involved in progressive activist groups in his teen years and college years and while he's straight, he saw his gay friends getting bullied and was horrified about what she was doing, even though it was to a straight boy. My sister is calling me an arsehole, a snitch, and says she hates me. My friends are reassuring me that we did the right thing. Am I the arsehole? I don't know how many ways I can say this.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, no, absolutely not. No, absolutely not, no way. You did the right thing. Oh my God, you did the absolute right thing, 100%. The hard part about it is that it's your family member, it's twin sister, twin sister is twin Insane.
Speaker 2:Twin sister Like that's crazy.
Speaker 1:They probably stay sleep in the same room Is your idea of twins, like the sweet life of Zach and Cody. No, I just have a lot of twin friends. A lot of people at my school are twins and quite a few of them share rooms. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:But like bro, that's crazy. Let's unpack, let us unpack, look. So one thing that I wanted to talk about is kids were calling him gay in the F-slur when he's not gay. Oh my God, look I have. We are theater kids, right? So we are friends with a lot of guys that just because they're theater kids, people just assume they're gay. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because they sing or they dance, or I have friends that are a bit more feminine, you know they like to talk about fashion. I have friends that are a bit more feminine, you know they like to talk about fashion they like to play, yeah, or even put on concealer.
Speaker 2:They like to play Roblox and dress to impress with me and bully little kids. They like to. You know he likes to. They like to go to Taylor Swift, which I love. I went to the Eros tour. I can already see the hatred comments coming from here and I will she's, and from here and I will um, she's and swifty major and oh, the hatred comments about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was confused what you were talking about but anyways, and he, he deals with so much of that and it's such a sensitive point from him and it's so cruel because even if he, even if they are gay, like, what does that have to do with you? Why is that any of your business to be so cruel?
Speaker 1:but also since this guy has obviously told them that he is not gay.
Speaker 2:First of all, but even if he was, why would you be?
Speaker 1:calling them the f? Slur, which is insane that's insane.
Speaker 2:I have such a disrespectful hatred against people using slurs because I'm like it's not, it's a word, it's not that difficult to just omit it from your vocabulary. Seriously, yeah, because that's intentional, because you know that's hurtful, you know that's mean, you know that's something you shouldn't be saying. And you're saying what? For shits and gigs? Because you're funny, you're not cool, mate, really you're not cool.
Speaker 1:And saying this isn't gonna make your dad come back, so please unfortunately, like so many people at my school I go to I don't know if it's because I go to a public school or it's the school I'm at so many people have all of these words just regularly, daily in their vocabulary. That's crazy, which I think it's not hard to just not say it, don't say it, just don't say it, just don't say it. It's not that hard, it's not hard it really isn't and it is so offensive.
Speaker 2:So it's not that hard, it's not hard, it really isn't, and it is so offensive, so genuinely offensive, and I think the OP, he totally did like the right thing Because, firstly, you're saving your sister from going down a path that is going to be so the end of her. Like that's crazy, that is crazy. I hope she learned a lesson from this, oh yeah. But well, clearly not because she's out here calling him an asshole, saying for this oh yeah, but well, clearly not because she's out here calling him an arsehole, saying that he.
Speaker 1:But this is because the parents are supporting them.
Speaker 2:That's insane. I hate it. Is it not a she or is it a he? It's a he. Oh, my bad, sorry. Fraternal twins no, you're all good. My bad, which I think is so sweet. Situations like guys are usually the meaner people. Yeah, but he's sticking up for him, in spite of his with his twin sister. Yeah, they're 14, they are in grade eight, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:I think this person who has read the story is probably going through absolute hell because the parents are supporting, supporting the sister.
Speaker 2:Oh, you should have talked to us first, and what were you gonna do?
Speaker 1:they want to say don't go to the assistant principal, we'll talk to her and nothing would have changed. Yeah, and what were?
Speaker 2:you going to say Sweetie, you know that's not right.
Speaker 1:In my experience, Okay, in my experience.
Speaker 2:God Nothing has ever changed from parents talking to the kids.
Speaker 1:The reason things change is through action, throughout proper consequences, and this is what has happened with this person getting expelled, and it was deserved, it was genuinely deserved Hit her.
Speaker 2:Deserved to be expelled and I hope she learned a lesson. But also the thing is she is known for being mean and she was the ringleader of this little gang. Abandons this little dream team. Oh my God, seek help.
Speaker 1:And she would also know that her brother is hanging out with this person because they said for a few weeks, right? That's crazy, that's.
Speaker 2:And that he knew that, like the boy that was being bullied, knew that it was the OP's sister.
Speaker 1:And he didn't say anything.
Speaker 2:He didn't say anything which is like so sad. But also, firstly, because I reckon a part of him is either like okay, he either A agrees with his sister or B. I don't want to damage their relationship.
Speaker 1:Well, it's the don't want to damage the relationship, because he told them what had been said but didn't say who said it.
Speaker 2:And he was getting bullied because he for being preppy, which is like, okay, slay girl, boss, he's just, he's demure, he's very mindful, he's very cutesy, he's very sweet. Oh my God.
Speaker 1:No, but it's the fact that they're definitely jealous because he would be making money off this For posting skincare on TikTok Starbucks iced coffees and is genuinely seen as a more feminine male aesthetic.
Speaker 2:Is that not what?
Speaker 1:everybody does Like I hope when you get in the shower you wash yourself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're hating on him for skincare. Skincare is the same as washing yourself. I'm so sorry you're jealous. His pores are better than yours. Oh, that rhymed, it did.
Speaker 1:But genuinely Call me T-Swizzle. They are definitely jealous of this guy. Because did you hear how cool he is?
Speaker 2:He went to fashion college. He's doing classes at the university in eighth grade to talk about fashion history. He sounds like an icon.
Speaker 1:I want to be his friend. He sounds like he's going places in the future and I hope this didn't delay it. I hope this bullying didn't affect him to delay his potential Because this guy sounds like he is going to go places. That is crazy.
Speaker 2:That's just crazy.
Speaker 1:Because this guy sounds like he is going to go places. That is crazy, that's just that's crazy.
Speaker 2:I think the person who's the twin who told the assistant principal about their twin. Can we give him a name? You call them the OP, the person who submitted the story.
Speaker 1:But can I give?
Speaker 2:him a name.
Speaker 1:Yeah, go, I'm going to do another J name, let's do Jack. What is it with the J names today? Don't know, it's just coming to me jack. He obviously has his values in place. Yeah, he's doing what is right. If I had even my brother, like, don't you think that would be a hard decision? If you heard that your sibling, who you were so close to, who you would have never thought would be saying these things, are saying these things, you would have to wrap your head around that and be like what is happening, because I doubt it doesn't sound like this person has heard no, it does.
Speaker 2:It sounds like he said his sister's quite mean yeah, but not that kind, not that level. That's crazy. You were so not in the wrong, you did the right thing and I hope right thing, look you just got to believe in yourself that the parents are siding with her.
Speaker 1:No, it's terrible that's awful that's so awful. You did the right thing, standing up for what's wrong absolutely, and you need to standing up for what's wrong?
Speaker 2:yeah, standing up for what is wrong, standing up for what is right, standing up for what is right, standing up for what is wrong, is when you believe in what is wrong.
Speaker 1:You are standing up for what is right yep, and you're trying, it's okay you, you, jack and the guy who does who got you. Just need to believe in yourself. It sounds like you are, and it sounds like you are doing the right things, and continue on that path and the fact that it's getting so bad.
Speaker 2:He's crying about it. He's genuinely upset, like as he should be, as he has total right to be and being bullied is so emotionally draining and this guy has such a big life, he's doing such cool things, he's doing amazing honestly, wow, and I think that bullying like that is that's just cruel.
Speaker 2:That is someone that you have nothing to do with that's when you have nothing to do with, who's doing nothing to you, who's not impacting you in any way, shape or form. He's just trying to live his best life and you, you see that and you're like I'm going to put him down for funsies, genuinely. What is wrong with you? Did you get dropped too many times at birth? Please, I'm begging you, seek psychiatric help, pop some pills and see if that changes the wiring of your brain, because there is something so infinitely wrong with you that I can't even believe that we are actually sharing oxygen with you. You are the reason that, like natural selection, exists.
Speaker 1:You are feeling bad about yourself because this person is doing you think they are doing so much better than you. You have no right to do that to another human being. Think about. Think about if this was happening to you and I am sure if this was happening to you, you would feel sure. If this was happening to you, you would feel the exact same way and nobody, nobody wants to feel that way.
Speaker 2:No human, no living thing should be doing this to another living thing In the nicest way possible. I hope she goes through something like this, because you're never going to understand the pain she needs a learning experience You're never going to understand the pain you are inflicting on other people until you go through it yourself, because that's insane and I feel, and honestly, opie and his friends are such baddies. Oh my God, I'm really proud of them. What do you call them? Jack, jack, jack, honestly props to you, mate.
Speaker 1:I'm really proud of you, especially going straight to the top, the assistant principal yeah, like not dawdling, daddling through all of these little people and your parents just going straight to the top and making this person feel better.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm sure this person weight lifted off their shoulders but another thing that I saw that I didn't like it. So it was a group of, I think, three girls and two guys and the sister was the ringleader, but she's the only one that got expelled. She's the only one that got expelled, which honestly says something about the school system that people can say this kind of stuff to other students and you're just like, oh well, smack on the wrist.
Speaker 1:Let you off with a warning, to be fair, because she was the ringleader her being expelled. I don't think these people will do the same as what they had done to that extent, because these people are followers and they need a ringleader to help them be so cruel? Yeah, and with this girl gone they might still, but they won't have the confidence. Yeah, she gives them the confidence to do these cruel things I don't know.
Speaker 2:They are the reasons that natural selection exists.
Speaker 1:That's crazy I'm sorry if this episode felt like a bit of a very heavy. Yeah, we're like we're getting into more serious things now. You know we had our start off episodes.
Speaker 2:We've actually looked into a couple other stories for some nearing episodes, and there's one that I really want to do and it's so funny.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but we'll save that one for next time. Yeah, so I think we're getting, because obviously our podcast is about teenagers and we just want to give advice and help people through. Being a teenager is hard and we want to help you through these hard times.
Speaker 2:We're starting to get a bit more serious. Honestly, I didn't ask for it. I don't want to be here.
Speaker 1:Kindly, kindly take me back being a teenager. Living is even harder because you know we're going through so much and we get told what to do everywhere we are. We don't have like independence but yeah so we're getting into more serious stuff.
Speaker 2:Honestly, it's so disappointing that I can't just be like okay, so I actually gave up, take me back please. And it just doesn't work like sorry, I didn't sign up for this, no thanks well, we really appreciate everybody for listening yes, and for sending in your stories and for sharing that with us. Thank you.
Speaker 1:So my quote of the day this week is actually not a saying, I've been saying, a saying I've been saying, a saying I've been saying. It's a quote that I have in my favorite photos for a year now, and when I first read it, I don't know why, but it felt so truly like deep to my heart and I just want to share it. I don't know, maybe it's only me, but it says you've noticed that when people can't control you, they try to control how other people see you.
Speaker 2:Okay, per, and I feel like that literally represents my life yeah, it has a lot to do with this episode today as well, yeah, and.
Speaker 1:I I don't know, I just feel I feel so connected to that quote and I don't know why, but I just feel like that's my life. Yeah, no, that's fair.
Speaker 2:My quote of the day isn't actually that deep. Mine is just something that I've been saying a lot recently and I think I said it a couple of times during this episode. But it's the really dramatic, because when am I normal? It's the really dramatic, please. I feel like I've said it a lot of times, but it's true. There, it's true. There's a reason why we're called overdramatic and problematic. I'm not asking you please. No, it's like please, for the love of God. Yeah, with a little screech at the end, but that's my quote of the day and with that, we hope you stay overdramatic and problematic. We love you. Have a wonderful weekend, mwah.