Retirement Plan Secured

Sleepovers, Smartphones & Street Smarts

• Allison & Jenn • Season 1 • Episode 11

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This episode dives into the challenges of protecting kids while giving them independence. Allison and Jenn share personal stories, from travel anxieties to strict rules they once hated but now enforce with their own teens. Using the Idaho Four murders as a backdrop, they ask tough questions about safety, freedom, and teaching street smarts in a digital age. Their memories of 9/11 show how fears evolve but never disappear. Along the way, they share a simple anxiety-calming sleep technique. Honest and relatable, the conversation explores parenting fears, boundaries, and the struggle to let kids grow while keeping them safe.

Speaker 1:

Hi, I'm Allison and I'm Jen. Welcome to our podcast Retirement Plan Secured Welcome. Jen is currently on her hot girl walk.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's a beautiful Monday and I just finished all of my compliance training with my new job, so I'm like all right, let me take a 30 minute break yeah, and I'm here slaving away as per usual yeah, it's a bummer you keep hearing that.

Speaker 1:

So how are you feeling? How's your neck?

Speaker 2:

um, um had a bit of a setback week three and so much pain and I have, like, this weird situation where I have delayed swallowing, like if I think about swallowing, I can't. And it's so weird because, like it comes out of nowhere, and I get really freaked out when I'm eating or drinking because I feel like I want to take a breath and then I can suck it into my lungs. So I've been like really carefully monitoring that. Apparently it's part of the process and can happen.

Speaker 2:

I tweaked my neck in like a week ago on Sunday and then, been in a lot of pain and like it's been weird to sleep and then all of a sudden this started happening. So I'm thinking that you know, there's like weird stuff going on. I have a doctor's appointment so I'll check it out. But this is definitely a process, Like I thought week one and two I was like, yeah, I'm going to be great, and then all these new things popped up. So I guess that's why they say you know, this can take six months to a year yeah.

Speaker 2:

I feel like healing after surgery takes so much longer than anticipated seriously, it's so scary because, like one wrong move and then your brain spirals right, like I'm like, oh my god, my screws are loose, they're in my throat, cause I even had like a lump in my throat at one point, like for the whole day, and I'm like, oh my God, I just like moved everything and, you know right, you freak out. I think I'll be okay, I'm going to talk to the doctor, I get my imaging and then two weeks to see how everything works and how it's fusing.

Speaker 1:

And then it happens yeah I feel like you have to heal from the inside out. So like on the outside you might look like it's okay, but it's it's not.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's scary yeah, I don't, I don't love this, but it was necessary. So you just keep on like I'm walking right now you're meant to walk every single day. I'm trying to get like 8,000 steps in at least a day, where possible haven't been that good and I know you can probably see my activity because we're friends on the aura app, but I'm trying yeah you, you with a bad neck, have been kind of beating me a little bit with your.

Speaker 2:

You wait. You wait a year from now. I'm going to be challenging you every single day.

Speaker 1:

I can't wait. So last we spoke we were talking about having anxiety attacks and how they like, oh, panic attacks, how they just like spring on you, yeah. And the next day we left for Europe and I had a panic attack on the plane that literally came out of nowhere. We had two hours left before we landed in Munich because we had a connecting fight and all of a sudden I was like what's happening? My legs started shaking, my whole body was shaking and then in my head I'm like please, let your stomach be okay, like I don't want to have to go to the bathroom, oh my god. And I literally just forced myself to go to sleep and I passed out, probably for like maybe like a half hour, 40 minutes.

Speaker 1:

And then all of a sudden I get awoken by the stench of like their snack. They were like it's a snack time and they were walking around with like these stinky cheese burritos I don't know, obviously I was not eating it and Mike's like do you want some? And I'm like, no, I have my sweatshirt over my face. He's like what are you doing? I'm like it smells so bad. And in my head I'm like, okay, if I throw up, like that might be better than having to have a stomach ache, like I didn't know what to do. I was freaking out. I forced myself to go back to sleep like, put a sweatshirt over my entire head and then we landed and made it. It was fine that's thank god.

Speaker 2:

I have a really cool trick if you have a hard time going back to sleep when something like that happens, that I have tried for the last. I tried it about five or six times and each time it's worked. So I'm like convinced now, because you know I get very skeptical of, you know, these types of things where I'm like, yeah, it doesn't work for everybody, but I wake up a lot in the middle of the night and also when I have anxiety, my heart's racing and I want to try and take a nap. It's really hard to try and sleep. So what you do is you take five deep breaths from your diaphragm, where it's like really deep in, and then you slowly release. You have to do it five times in a row, okay, and then after you do that, count to 20 so slowly, and you don't even reach 20. It's the most insane thing I've. I've gotten like I think the furthest to like 12 and I'm sleeping all right, I'm gonna have to keep that in mind yeah, you have to try it I've been doing it definitely work.

Speaker 2:

You have to be tired, right like. I'm assuming you're sitting there on the plane for that long, like if you did that it would have you would have been knocked out yeah, no, I was really tired by this time.

Speaker 1:

It was like it was just also weird because we left New York at 5 30 like, like our flight left at 5.30, and we landed in Munich at 7.30 am and the entire flight the sun never went down.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's such a work. Like as we were flying over the ocean, which was like the longest ocean in the entire world. Like every time I looked at the TV, I'm like we are still over this fucking ocean. Like this is insane. The plane is going 600 miles an hour. Like what is taking so long to get through this ocean.

Speaker 2:

I was trying to text baby the entire time but I was like obviously sleeping for a good portion of it and I was like trying to look at your location and you were just like stuck. Your location was still like I think in Queens, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So for some reason, when you're on the plane, it doesn't update your location, which is weird because you have wi-fi, but I don't know. And so then this is the best part though. So, like I won't eat airplane food, I think it's gross, like it's just not my thing. Okay, I'm not eating your chicken parm that you got on the airplane. I'm not eating the pasta, like I'm not doing it. Mike is sitting there chowing down and I'm not eating your chicken parm that you got on the airplane. I'm not eating the pasta, like I'm not doing it. Mike is sitting there chowing down. And I'm like I got a bag of sun chips in my bag. I will eat those. And then I brought with me a bagel from the bagel place in Long Island. I felt like you, it was just a plain bagel, I had nothing on it.

Speaker 1:

And we land in Munich, we get to the lounge or whatever. We take a nap in the lounge because we had like four hours of a layover. And I wake up and I'm like I'm so hungry and Mike's like okay, do you want food from in here? Like what do you want? I'm like, oh, I don't want this food, it's gross. I'm like can you get me a packet of butter? He's like what? I'm like, just get me a pack of butter. He comes back with butter and I put a bagel out of my bag, rip it open. I like smear the butter on it. I'm like chowing down. He's like where's that bagel from? I go, I bought it yesterday at home.

Speaker 2:

Like did you bring?

Speaker 1:

a bagel with you to Europe. I'm like, yes, I did those things come in handy, seriously. So then I just thought it was so funny, because I'm like we literally were talking about like panic attacks, getting them out of nowhere, and we both were saying like, oh, it hasn't happened in so long. And I'm like, yeah, it hasn't happened to me in so long.

Speaker 2:

And then I think I know I think I brought it on myself. You probably did, but you know what you're always like, really nervous going on planes, so like that.

Speaker 1:

And then, having talked about it, it was just in your head well then, we also said, we also said that we get it right before we get our period right. Yeah, okay, so I had the panic attack on saturday and then I got my period on friday. Oh, what a perfect story. Yeah, literally, we landed in new york and I got my period, like when we came back home.

Speaker 2:

It was like a welcome home present well, good thing you didn't have it while you're there no, absolutely. That definitely was a plus speaking of that this week three has been really tough, and on top of that I also got my, my lovely menstrual cycle. So I'm just like. I went to the store I bought like heating pad. I was like I'm not playing around because I can't take Motrin. Oh, that stinks, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So I'm kind of like I don't usually get like cramps that badly or anything like that when I took out my IUD, um, it has been literally just the most painful cramps, like when I was in high school, every time and I haven't had that for like six, seven years. So I'm like, oh, dealing with it. They say to walk right, like you got to move your body when it's happening and I and Rhett also made me sick so probably could have been worse than what it was, but just dealing with it. It's hard being a woman.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it is. It's a tough one. Let me tell you. Um, so I have a funny story for you. So we were well, I don't know if it's funny, but whatever. So we were with our friends a couple weeks ago and I was talking to my girl, vita shout out to vita if she listens um, so she's like first generation here from italy. Her, her parents came here before she was born and we were just saying how, like our kids, like, they go to sleepovers, they're at parties, they're here, they're there, and I'm like, when I was a kid, I wasn't allowed to sleep over anyone never, and she's like no and I said I was literally telling Mike, like right before I had this conversation with her, we were talking about, like I, john anthony's friends.

Speaker 1:

They were all out on their bikes and then they came in the yard and I'm like, do you guys want dinner, like barbecued for all of them. And I'm like that didn't exist. When I was a kid, like I was not allowed to eat at someone else's house. It was like you eat dinner at home and then you go out. So vita was like, oh my god, I was never. I don't even know what it's like to eat in another person's house. And I'm like I had like maybe one or two friends when I was in elementary school that like I was allowed to sleep at their house, but probably not until like seventh or eighth grade. And yeah, even that was questionable. It was like one or two people and that was it. I was never allowed to sleep out. I remember like I think we were in high school, I'm like the bowling alley on Woodhaven Boulevard. Do you remember this?

Speaker 1:

I don't we weren't friends yet and they had like a like a night overnight, like lock-in or something it was called. Oh my God, and these girls that I was friends with at the time like all went and I was like begging my parents, like please, why can't I sleep at the bowling alley overnight like everyone else is doing it? Blah, blah. My parents are like over our dead bodies. Are you sleeping in a bowling alley overnight? Like absolutely not.

Speaker 2:

And now there was no question. No question.

Speaker 1:

I wouldn't even ask, like when I was young at all, because I knew it was no honestly, thinking back, I don't even know why I asked like yeah, but we were just saying like it was so funny that like kids nowadays don't like it's not the same not really, because I still practice that with lily, like she's never really slept at anyone's house and they sleep at my house, though, like I'm totally fine with like 10 girls sleeping over jam-packed the house, like I don't give a shit.

Speaker 2:

But you're not going anywhere, like it's just not happening. No, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I 100% practice the same like you eat, you eat home and then you could go out. Like if you're out, you come home for dinner. But these kids now just don't understand, like how we live now well, it was.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was a different world and our parents were very much the same in a lot of ways. You know, like even my dad, like my dad was old school Brooklyn Italian big guy, you know, tough guy, and he looked at you and that was it. Like I wouldn't even sometimes I'd back talk and he'd be like who the fuck are you talking to?

Speaker 1:

oh, yeah so you know, john Anthony was talking about like a I don't know, maybe like the seniors in high school went on a trip or something. I don't remember. He was talking about something and I was like, oh, senior trip, that's nice. I was never allowed to go on mine. And he's like what? And he's like where was it? And I'm like I don't remember if it was florida or dc, but I remember there was two trips in high school. I don't remember if it was like senior year, junior year, whatever. Oh, I know that I wasn't allowed to go you also weren't 18 yet.

Speaker 2:

So I was 18 when my senior trip happened in high school. So I told my parents. I was like I'm 18, I'm an adult, I'm going. So I went, but they were like what the hell you gotta go there, for you don't need to go there. What are you gonna do? Disney world? You know? Like they could give a shit less. And I was like well, all my friends are going, I'm going to go. It's a bus. We had to take a bus. It was crazy.

Speaker 1:

You took a bus all the way to.

Speaker 2:

Florida. Oh yeah, plus, I smoked cigarettes back then. Right Every single time the bus stopped I was outside smoking a cigarette and the kids that went to high school were like who the fuck is this girl? Like who is she that she goes and she smokes her cigarettes on the side?

Speaker 1:

Like I didn't give a shit because I was definitely like a different. I was like hitting the button on the bus like the ding dong, like could you please pull over? I need a cigarette break.

Speaker 2:

Well, I went to high school in Manhattan. I was not like you know. None of us all grew up together like it was very different and I was just the coffee and cigarette high school kid. It was so crazy my daughter decided to do that. Right now. I would literally lose my fucking mind. There's no way. And now everyone's vaping.

Speaker 1:

So a little different yeah, so I wasn't even allowed. So jenny's like why weren't you out? I'm like I don't know, ex-grandfather. He's like pa, why wasn't mommy allowed? My dad was like because I said no and that was the end.

Speaker 2:

You know what it is too like, obviously, the basic reasons like you never know, you don't trust people, you don't know they can touch your kid, you don't, you just don't know. Like you don't trust people, you don't know they can touch your kid, you just don't know you don't trust anyone, right? But then also, what if you're uncomfortable? I know that there have been times when I was young where my mom dropped me off at some girl's house that I was friends with in elementary school. I called her my mother. I said come pick me up. She did not like the house. It was not like comfortable for me. Her dad was super young. He was like this is not a father. I had like these preconceived notions of what a household should be like, right, not that mine was by any means perfect, but like it was mine and I felt comfortable, literally called my mother up. I was. She dropped me off like maybe 20 minutes before called her up. I'm like you have to come get me.

Speaker 2:

I don't want to be here anymore you know, so I think it was just also that, like you, never know what happens yeah, it's like I've read horror stories where like there's hazing and these, like girls, are just making fun and bullying like other kids like I. Just I don't think it's necessary. Like my daughter, unfortunately, she has a good group of friends. They're all a little bit of troublemakers in some ways, but they're teenagers so I I get it, but generally good girls, uh. But you never know, it could be that one incident and like you'll regret it for the rest of your life.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's so scary. Last night we started watching um, the Idaho 4. Did you watch that? Yet? No, I don't know if it's on Peacock maybe or something, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

It just came out the other day and I said to Mike this is what makes me nervous about my child's wanting to go away to college yeah, I don't even want, because we're having this now and I'm totally like flexible and open to it, but I'm also like wherever you go, I'm moving.

Speaker 1:

It's really scary, like I don't know, it's just, I get it, we. We can't live in fear because it could happen anytime anywhere, like yeah, you know.

Speaker 2:

I don't, I don't know that we can prevent no them from like living their lives right.

Speaker 1:

We can't prevent anything from happening. I mean, like, look at my mom, we'll get into that one day, but look at my mom, we can't prevent any of these things from happening. Right, and like to think like that is crazy, because then we make ourselves crazy, but at the same time it's just like and neurotic right like we become very neurotic, which it's too late for us.

Speaker 2:

Like I know, you and I are very similar in that way like that's never gonna change, like you gotta let them live.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we just don't know, like, what the other person is thinking, and I'm gonna establish some rules.

Speaker 2:

You gotta establish some rules, like I, because I'm having this conversation with lily now and she's like definitely interested in going down south a little bit and I was like as long as I could drive there, god forbid something happens with, like the flights or whatever. I want to be able to get to you, so that's how far you can go.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, we were watching the idaho four and I was just thinking this is just so terrifying, like you think that your child is safe at school or whatever, and it's just they're not and you can't control it. What?

Speaker 2:

is the Idaho for, just sorry, like I live under a rock so it's that guy that murdered those four kids in Idaho? Okay, yeah so the craziest thing about that is like I think they knew him or he knew them.

Speaker 1:

So I don't know. I didn't get that far yet. We we just started watching it last night and I fell asleep, to be honest, and we were trying to figure out, like, how did he know that they were going to be home, how did he know who was in the house? How did he know where to go in the house? How did he know anything? And then the worst part is there's two people that survived that were there in the house, that he never went after.

Speaker 2:

Right and they were like in a behind the closed doors or something.

Speaker 1:

Right, yeah, but almost all of them were behind closed doors, they were all in separate rooms. I like he went upstairs, all the way upstairs to like one girl's room and there was two of the girls in the room, and then he went to another room and it was the girl with her boyfriend, and then the other two that survived were texting each other like they heard something. Yeah, they heard something, what's going on? And they like ran to each other, like one was like come to my room. And they ran to the room and then like what happened?

Speaker 2:

I watched the sister's speech to that piece of shit and it was heartbreaking and hard wrenching.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I have to watch. I didn't. That's the only thing. Like I'm into all stuff like that. Like you know that, yeah, I love true crime documentaries but for some reason it was just so confusing in the beginning, when it first happened, and there wasn't that much info about it out, that I couldn't really follow it. I was like I need to wait until more because I feel like there was just way too much going on with that and they really had no grip and idea on what was going on right.

Speaker 2:

Well, I was following it just based off news articles when it was happening, and I didn't even know that it's now this like netflix documentary yeah, it just well.

Speaker 1:

He just got sentenced, like last week I think it was, and apparently I didn't. Again, I didn't watch it, we were actually away and apparently he had like zero expression, he didn't say anything, um, he didn't talk the whole time, or something like that his eyes just look like they were empty.

Speaker 2:

They do. He has crazy eyes. And just going back to your point earlier about like saying we have to let our kids live and like, go and explore and have those experiences, and honestly you just have to pray to whatever you believe in, that they're protected and that they make good decisions, and then, with good people, to try, and you know, not go through these types of things, because you just never know right and I'm always telling you anything like just trust your gut.

Speaker 1:

If you feel like something weird is going on, something weird's gonna happen, like just just leave. If somebody wants to make fun of you for leaving, it's fine, who cares, just just go I say that to lily.

Speaker 2:

I'm like blame me. Say that my mother is being crazy and she wants me home. I gotta go like I don't care, send me a text message with like a code word I don't give a shit and I will go nuts, pretend like I'm mad about something and then yeah, even if nothing happens, like just knowing your mind's, like I, you know, you just you don't know, you never know well, right now what's happening on my end?

Speaker 2:

like new phase unlocked. So her friends are driving. She's in the car with them. They're driving to like crumble in long island and going to brooklyn and going to wherever, and I'm like it's 11 o'clock at night. Like I just don't feel comfortable with a 17 year old driving you around at 11 o'clock at night right now, like I'm just still not okay with it.

Speaker 1:

You know I'm not ready for that yeah it's tough. These kids are just like. I see these kids now driving around and they're just so like in a rush to get everywhere, like flying down the street, like and I just don't get it like a little kid could pop out so fast. Or those mopeds they're everywhere, yeah. Or a dog, any, anything right, anything like. Just you have to slow down, like, believe me, you don't have to get there that fast it's not even about them.

Speaker 2:

Half the time it's the people around you that you can trust. You know like be a drunk driver, it just slams into you. That's wearing your seatbelts like you know.

Speaker 1:

It's just don't know yeah, it's just way too much. I feel like kids should not be allowed to drive this young yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2:

I mean they have to like where you live. I kind of get it you. It makes sense. There's a bit more space here in the city. They don't need to be driving. No, Get on the subway.

Speaker 1:

Well, these kids in high school, I think, like senior year, they're allowed to like get in their car and go out for lunch. Yeah, it's not necessary. Last year or two years ago, one of the seniors died during his lunch hour. Oh, last year or two years ago one of the seniors died during his lunch hour. Oh, my god, are you kidding? Yeah, he like got in a massive car accident. She's like it's unnecessary to give the kids one hour. You have one hour. You could go in your car and drive wherever you want to drive. Now, they're like racing. I mean, I don't know what he was doing, but like in general, like you're like racing to go to the pizzeria. You're racing to mcdonald's. You're racing to go to the pizzeria. You're racing to McDonald's. You're racing to get back to school. It's so unnecessary. It's really not so unnecessary.

Speaker 1:

And they want to be groups and they're selling off Right, and it's so sad, that's it. It's really terrible, it's heartbreaking when I see these kids. Things like this happen, even these motor scooters, those, those e-bikes. Somebody just recently in in our area got into an accident with a car and the poor kid had to get airlifted to the hospital. Yeah, I just feel for the girl. You know Right, cause you're like home, thinking everything's fine and right.

Speaker 2:

You know, it's just so scary yesterday, lily and like eight of her girlfriends, went to six flags and, of course, my child is the only child whose phone dies. Like what are you doing while fucking being on your phone? You're at six flags, like I don't understand. Like, reserve your battery so I don't know when she's coming home. I know nothing. I'm texting her friends. They're not answering me and I'm just like this is two hours away. She didn't get home until like after midnight. I'm so frustrated because I'm like it's Sunday night. I haven't worked today, monday, yeah no that's a lot.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's also no, that's a lot. Yeah, there's also like limited responsibility, or like the inability to be overly responsible, which I require in order for me to feel like I can trust you. You know, I know John Anthony is good with that, right he's up your ass.

Speaker 1:

He is, is, but also it's just like, oh, I don't know. And then you know what's crazy I think about it.

Speaker 2:

I'm like we kind of did the same stuff, definitely not as much like, but we were definitely like I'm going to six flags, I'm going here, I'm doing that first of all, I was definitely rebellious, like I was doing so much more shit than what my kid does today, you know just in terms of like being adventurous and getting into like a little bit of trouble and you know just kind of pushing the limits and the boundaries. But I was also really street smart and knew how to take care of myself and I just don't think kids can do that today. No, they definitely can't, they don't they don't know where to begin.

Speaker 1:

I feel like not at all and it's also, I think that they all, just like we didn't have phones, we didn't have cell phones, like we had to use a pay phone, so like we had to be more conscious of yeah, what do we need to do in the event of an emergency right yeah, I mean, let's talk about 9-11 for a minute, because I was a senior.

Speaker 2:

I just got into my senior year and I got out of the train station because my school, my high school, was on 24th and 8th Avenue. So when you get out of the train you look up the World Trade Center is right there, Like you could just see it. I look up and I see a plane in one of them and I'm like holy shit, Fuck, and in my head I'm like that's such a horrible accident, Like how terrible. And I go into school and we're all sitting there and like everything unfolded, Come to find out what was going on. And then I'm sure you remember, because by the time I was in senior year, I did have a cell phone. Nothing was working. No phones were working that day.

Speaker 2:

Couldn't text Not that like it was easy to text anyway, because you had to hit numbers to text right, but couldn't call nothing. So my parents had no fucking idea what happened to me or my brother until I got home at like 7 30 at night. He walked over the bridge and got home. I waited because I was like I'm not fucking, I don't know what I'm doing, I'm not, I'm just gonna stay put so we know if there's other incidents, because of course they can happen. In my high school, oh my god, they just let the empire seep. All that like the rumors started and it just felt like we're being attacked and there was no way to get on the internet and see what was happening back then. So I just stayed until I felt safe enough to take the train home, which was late at night. But I walk in the house and my mother, my father, at the door. Oh my God, thank God they had no clue for all those hours. Right, I would lose my mind, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I was in high school Also.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you were also a senior, right, but you you're younger.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we were actually in our lunch hour and they made an announcement and said what happened. And then we went to like class and it was just like nobody was learning anything. Everyone was kind of just sitting in silence and like, little by little, people were just their parents were coming to pick them up, but my mom was where was my mom? Was where was my mom? I guess my mom was at work. My dad was upstate.

Speaker 1:

He couldn't even get home, oh wow he went upstate and like I guess we were getting a delivery of something. So he went up and then my mom, I guess, couldn't get me for some reason. I don't know, I don't remember what happened, but by the time she was able to like come and get me, like school was over and I remembered Kim got picked up and her brother I think it was was trying to like get me out and they were like they wouldn't let me leave with him. Yeah so, and I was like trying to call my mom to be like come and get me or let her brother take me. Like the phones weren't working, so that didn't work out well.

Speaker 2:

I thought liz, my best friend growing up, um who made this and for this. And so hi, liz. She went to high school near the world trade center and usually we would like kind of commute together and like go smoke some cigarettes and drink coffee before my classes started and then she had to go in, and so when that day occurred it was like the beginning of the new school year, so like we weren't fucking around yet. I wasn't like going down there yet, you know, and I think it was like the second day of school, actually something like that, and I thought she was dead. I was like, oh my God, she had to run to get away from there.

Speaker 2:

You know, like so scary, horrible, horrible, horrible day has impacted so many lives, and now we're in, we're living in a time where there's a lot of turmoil across the globe and a lot of bad actors and you just never know what could happen. Like they just found this guy in the city who was plotting bombs across different locations in new york city and they circumvented it. They stopped him. But who's to say that? Like there are more people.

Speaker 1:

Like that Right, he could have been the decoy. You never know. So you know it's funny, because Mike works law enforcement and we were coming home from Italy and he had handcuffs in his bag, because he always is like you know?

Speaker 2:

Oh, I know why he had handcuffs in his bag.

Speaker 1:

Sure, he's like well, that's so he. Whatever he's like, if something goes down in the airplane like I'm gonna, I'm gonna take somebody down so we get through, like all the airports, with handcuffs. We've never had a problem before. We're coming home from italy and it's 7 0, 5 am and his bag is going through the machine. It just like stops and the guy yells excuse me, sir, do you have handcuffs in your bag? And everyone is just looking at us and I'm like mike oh my god, they think that we're probably like some freaks.

Speaker 1:

And he's like laughing yeah so he's like showing them his you know credentials and stuff, and we're just like standing there and then, like you know, this head lady of the airport comes over, then someone else comes over, then the police come over and they like they took them away from him, oh wow. And he's like now like we're coming home on a direct flight for nine hours. He's like, well, I hope nothing happens on the plane because I don't have handcuffs and I'm like, oh my god, why would you give me this anxiety now? But, holy cow, we got home safe. But in retrospect I was like these people at 7.05 am probably think that we're like two super freaks and you have handcuffs in your school bag.

Speaker 2:

Carry on A hundred percent. I immediately thought that and I would have said something and I'm like okay.

Speaker 1:

I'll be over here waiting for you, like god yeah, that's so good, oh my god.

Speaker 2:

Well, my walk is almost done. I have to get back to work.

Speaker 1:

I have to, uh, actually have a dentist appointment today, so I'm very excited for that. I love going to the dentist. I love getting my teeth cleaned, wow, so I do, but most people don't. I know I'm always like why don't people love the dentist? I love the dentist, but anyway, okay, so we'll leave you with that. Jen's walk is complete and I'm heading to the dentist. Okay, like us, follow us, leave us some reviews, five stars, give us something, message us and we