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Haunted or Hyped? The Real Estate Behind The Shining & The Conjuring House

• Zach and Patrick • Season 2 • Episode 33

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In this Halloween special, Zach and Patrick dive into two of the creepiest (and most fascinating) properties ever linked to real estate and pop culture: The Overlook Hotel from The Shining and the real-life Conjuring House in Rhode Island.

From Kubrick’s impossible architecture to an actual haunted farmhouse now up for foreclosure auction, we explore what makes these places so legendary and what they’d be worth in today’s market. Could you actually profit from a haunted property? Would you stay overnight in one?

We’ll break down the real locations behind the movies, how horror has become a tourism goldmine, and the wild economics of fear-driven real estate.

If you’ve ever wondered whether owning a haunted house is an investment or a curse, this episode is the perfect mix of chills, history, and housing market insight.

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SPEAKER_03

What's going on, everybody? Welcome to season two of the Rent Ish Podcast. I'm Zach here with my co-host Patrick.

SPEAKER_01

We're two rookies chasing the dream of real estate investing. In this podcast, we'll talk about property management, wild stories, and everything in between. We don't know it all yet.

SPEAKER_03

But that's the point. We're learning as we go, just like you. We'll bring in the experts to educate and inform us, and we'll figure it out together. So let's laugh, learn, and dive into real estate side by side. Patrick, gotta give it up to you. You brought the energy. It only took five takes to get the intro right. No one will ever know. No one knows, except now everyone knows. Maybe one of these days we'll pay the producers to put like bloopers at the end of the podcast, but maybe then we won't be able to get advertisers. I was about to say, I don't want to hear the bloopers. Yeah, the bloopers could not our finest work of all time, but that's why they're that's why they're cut. But how are you doing today? How's your day going?

SPEAKER_01

It's it's good, it's okay. It's alright. It's not it's uh just keep just keep whipping it down, keep going down the ladder. Uh I was talking earlier, but uh I'm I'm dog sitting today for my uh next door neighbor, and the dog uh threw up on my my rug, and last time I dog sat for this dog threw up like five times in my apartment on my rugs. So uh yeah, I think I'm done dog sitting. I don't think I'm made to be a dog sitter.

SPEAKER_03

Are you what are you worried about because like dogs getting sick is like kind of a normal thing sometimes. I mean, dogs can get sick, they're just like humans. Are you just are you sure that you're just like reevaluating your idea as a pet owner in your in your late 20s?

SPEAKER_01

I'm just like I don't I it's like I keep breaking Poppy. I don't I just like I keep breaking your breaking the dog. He was working fine when I got him. I start pet sitting and throwing up everything.

SPEAKER_03

His dog's broken. No, it I I think that uh like my my my dog comet, like when we leave and leave him with like friends or family. I think they get anxious because their routine is broken, they're staying with someone that's not like their main owner, so it's like they get a little anxious. It's like it's totally normal. Yeah, right. Um, you know, I'm just I don't want to clean up dog vomit. Like I empathize with well, you could just leave the vomit there until the owner comes home and tell him to clean it up.

SPEAKER_01

Welcome back. Hope you had a nice trip. Clean up your dog your dog got sick in my living room.

SPEAKER_03

Go ahead and clean this, please. Yeah, but um nothing like talking like talking about dog vomit in the first few minutes of a real estate podcast. You can tell that we're professionals here. How are you?

SPEAKER_01

I keep not uh how are you?

SPEAKER_03

I'm good. Been a bit of a hiatus since we recorded. I've been out of town, you've been out of town.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

But now we're back. And apparently we're gonna get spooky up in this. But uh apparently this episode's not gonna go out in time for Halloween.

SPEAKER_01

But it's uh Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_03

You know, we're we're if we're we're nothing but punctual. You know what I mean? It's like we're topical, punctual, right on time.

SPEAKER_01

But yeah, it's been a sec since we've done one of these, so I am glad to be back. It's uh it's riveting being here with you in front of microphones talking about real estate. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03

We're gonna get real riveting and it's gonna get real informative today because yeah, it's the Halloween episode. It's kind of like uh when The Simpsons would do their treehouse of horror. This is our version of that. Oh yeah. The Rentish Gets Spooky, the spookish podcast. Hauntish podcast. Hauntish is better. It's got a lot of fun. Hauntish is better. Well, we're gonna we're gonna talk about a couple really fun Halloween themed things today and keep it real estate-centric, focused. But thank you for listening to the show. Obviously, if you've stuck around, you know the d the drill at this point. But uh the Rentish is a fun little podcast that we do where we talk about real estate and property management and all the different sort of aspects of that. If you're enjoying it, great. Give us a review, give us a like, give us a comment, send us an email to questions at the rentishpod.com, follow us on socials at therentish pod, and tell a friend. If you got a friend that's a landlord or someone that owns properties, or maybe they're like a tenant that's just into real estate, or there's someone that's studying real estate and they're in college, tell them about the show. Say, like, you might enjoy this on your commute. There's these two guys, Zach and Patrick, and sometimes they have a third guy that's even funnier than both of them called Musei.

SPEAKER_00

Speaking of which.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, Musei's back on the mic if he can find the unmute button.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I'm back on the mic. Uh it's good to be back on the mic. Um, the mic is great.

The Conjuring House Goes Up for Auction

SPEAKER_03

Mike is great. All right, thanks for the insight, producer Musei. We might be calling on him multiple times in this episode to talk. But yeah, thank you. Follow the Rentish everywhere, and we're gonna get into it now with the Halloween real estate rundown. That is a mouthful. We're gonna talk about the Conjuring House uh going up for auction on Halloween. There's an article here from Realtor.com. Patrick, did you read the article?

SPEAKER_01

There's an article.

SPEAKER_03

There's an article. Where?

SPEAKER_01

It was right there. Oh, you didn't paste the link, you hyperlinked it. Yeah, sorry, I missed that. It says here. Yeah, my bad.

SPEAKER_03

It was like a phantom. You missed it. It was like disappeared and went into the ether. All right, so here's one for the spooky season. The real life Rhode Island farmhouse that inspired the conjuring movies is back in the spotlight. Let's just say its next chapter is straight out of a horror script. We're talking haunted history, Hollywood fame, real estate drama, and a Halloween twist that couldn't be more fitting. So let's break down what's happening with one of America's most infamous homes.

SPEAKER_01

Wait, I I have a question. So is this the so I've seen the conjuring movie. I actually really like it. Okay. The first one's really good. The first one is good. The other ones of like Kit and Miss. Second was okay, and I don't care after that. But um, is this the actual house that the movie is based off of, or is this the one that they filmed in? I think that I don't think they actually filmed in the house. I could be wrong. No, right. It's part of the article. So but so okay, so this is not I see, okay. I'm getting this confused with our uh real estate real or whatever. Yeah, real estate real. This is not the real estate real segment. No. Sorry, I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_03

So this is actually the conjuring segment. Yeah, so it's like behind. If I'm remembering correctly, Ed and Lorraine Warren. Those are the main characters, the conjuring movies, but they're based on real life people, Ed and Lorraine Warren, who were like in paranormal investigators. Yeah. That was like their whole thing. Um, and this house is the house that they based the movie on, but they didn't actually film in this house and they didn't. So this is the real life. This is the real life. Exactly. Yeah. Let's get a couple basics out of the movie. Yeah, sorry. I'm located in Harrisville, Rhode Island, which never heard of. I've actually never even been to Rhode Island, so barely missed it.

SPEAKER_01

I was just in Connecticut, New Hampshire, and Vermont and Massachusetts, and but you missed going to Rhode Island. Like, I it's not like, oh whoops, we we missed it. It's like we intentionally didn't go. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Well, the Conjuring House is 8.5 acres, three-bedroom farmhouse, and has a foreclosure auction set for 11 a.m. on October 31st, which they knew what they were doing. They were like Well, I thought it was a coincidence. I know they're like, it just so happens. But it also are the odds. It would be funny if it was a coin coincidence where it's like maybe due to like some like laws, it was like that the last day of the month would make the most sense to do the foreclosure auction, and it just happens to be October 31st, Halloween. Um, but yeah, the auction is gonna be handled by Justin Manning. Uh, no relation to the Peyton or Eli family of JJ Manning auctioneers. Manning joked about showing up dress as Count Dracula, but said he'd keep it professional.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, okay, you're selling the terrible the conjuring house on Halloween. You're talking about keeping it professional. That's where you draw the line is Dracula.

SPEAKER_03

I agree with you. But if you're gonna make a comment about it, don't use Dracul Dracula? That's fair. Dracula's been around forever. Like that that's terrible comparison. You say you dressed up like Annabelle or something like that. That's better, that's better. Or like the Babaduke or something more something more common than Dracula, which is like an old, it's like a fairy tale almost.

SPEAKER_01

It's like I'm more like the per keep it professional part. It's like that boat sailed the second you decided to make this, you know. Like lean into it, man.

SPEAKER_02

I want to increase your mortgage.

SPEAKER_01

Or I mean I guess with Dracula's kind of related to real estate, though.

SPEAKER_03

How is it? Oh, because because he uh he has the like the can like the the castle and Dracula.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, the one guy who's coming, it's like a real estate broker guy who's like he wants to buy property. That's true. That's a good point. So I yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Huh. Maybe we should uh maybe we should think about doing that for next Halloween, is like the like the Dracula castle and how he goes moves to the United States, Voyage of the Great Demeter, whatever it's called, comes to the United States, gets that property. Sure, we can do that. Raises hell on earth.

SPEAKER_00

No problem. Lock it in. Does Dracula have a counting problem?

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god. Say the punchline.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, does he? Because doesn't Dracula have a hard time counting?

SPEAKER_01

No, yes. What do you want me to say?

SPEAKER_00

Is that like a thing though?

SPEAKER_01

Count Dracula.

SPEAKER_03

You're talking are you hold on a second. Are you talking? Are you talking about the count from from Sesame Street? Yes. But that's not the same Dracula. Not the same Dracula. The Dracula is not in any way, shape, or he's a there he's a vampire. Right. But the count from Sesame Street is not Dracula. I mean it's like based off of it. But I love that you had that linked in your brain that it's.

SPEAKER_00

Because then I'll be like, I don't want to count Dracula selling me a home if you can't really can't count.

SPEAKER_03

So it's like, well, it's like, hold on. It's like zillo dra Zillow Dracula, where it's like, how many bedrooms?

SPEAKER_00

One bedroom.

SPEAKER_03

Two bedrooms.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. That's pretty funny.

SPEAKER_03

Wow, I didn't know that. That's great. I'm glad we got that on the record. We say his childhood. This whole time.

SPEAKER_00

Let me go back. I thought that was a form, like a variant of another Dracula.

SPEAKER_03

Nope. He's a vampire is the form. Dracula is a vampire. The Count is a vampire, but they're not both Dracula. Count Vunt. Yeah. Is that his name? Count Von Count, yeah. Get that crazy. That's hilarious. Count Von Count? Sweet name. That's pretty genius. Alright, well, back to we got we got down the wrong road there. Uh, The Haunted History. Ready for this? Yeah. Originally owned by the Perrin family, who moved in 1971, they reported numerous paranormal encounters, some benign, others mean-spirited. Daughter Andrea Perrin wrote about it in her 2011 book, House of Darkness, House of Light. Ed and Lorraine Warren, who we mentioned earlier, were the real-life paranormal investigators from the conjuring movies. They were called in, and famously, during a seance, reportedly, Andrea's mom uh spoke in another language and was thrown across the room. Uh the family stayed until 1980, then moved out after a decade of alleged hauntings. Patrick, I got a very important question for you. Yeah. Do you believe in ghosts?

SPEAKER_01

I I I don't. Okay. I want to. Like, I think it'd be awesome to believe in ghosts, but I don't. Okay. What about you? So haunting, spirits, the the ghosts, the ghosts. I love I love possessions. Spooky stuff. I love, I love the idea of it. Like, I just like I like spooky stuff. Yeah. I I I can't trick my brain to believe that they're actually they actually exist. Sure. Yeah, I don't know. That's just what what about you?

SPEAKER_03

Well, it's a cool fantasy. It's a cool story. I do love the idea of like, you know, ghosts and hauntings and stuff. I think that is very cool. But my opinion in this modern world that we live in, everyone has a cell phone. We'd have way more conclusive evidence of there being ghosts if there were actually ghosts. Right. So that's just my take. Feel free to email questions at the Rentish Pod if you'd like to tell us if you believe. And we'll turn the next episode into ghost cast. Ooh. Ghost cast.

SPEAKER_01

Rebranding. We're paranormal investigators ourselves now moving forward.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so uh keep it, keep it, keep it going from real life to Hollywood. So their story inspired the 2013 movie The Conjuring uh launched a nine movie franchise, including Last Rights. Uh the Annabelle stuff kind of was a spin-off from that. The Curse of La Yarona was also uh a spin-off of that. Uh and the real home became known as the Conjuring House and a tourist hotspot for paranormal fans. But there's been some recent ownership drama. In 2019, Corey and Jennifer Hennison bought it for$439,000 and turned it into a paranormal event space, which is hysterical. That's actually a good idea. That would sell. Yeah, entice the tourists. That's that's a smart buy.$439,000 for a haunted house, though. Would you would you spend that much money on a haunted house?

SPEAKER_01

I think, I think with especially that haunted house being so famous just because of the movie. Okay. Like that, I think that's a great investment opportunity. Like I think the passive income there is is would pay for itself pretty quickly.

SPEAKER_03

So let's say it's not the conjuring house. You go to Zillow, you go to see a Zillow house and it's haunted. Yeah, okay. It's actually like it seems like it's haunted. The guy that's selling is like we've had a lot of history of paranormal stuff. The walls move and the uh they hear voices coming from behind the fridge. Do you would you buy the house? You what you would you wouldn't be scared off by that.

SPEAKER_01

I uh again, I I don't know that I believe in ghosts. I actually I know that I don't. Um so I don't think I I'd be scared, I'd be more weirded out by the like realtor. Like I'm like, why are you why you're going deep into this character, man?

SPEAKER_02

Like before you come in for this tour, we must recite this incantation before anyone who pulls out like a big book or another.

SPEAKER_01

I probably yeah, I'd probably head head out though, just because of the realtor. Yeah, but I'm gonna be out.

SPEAKER_03

Good luck selling the place. Bye. Get in the car. In 2022, the Conjuring House sold to Jacqueline Nunez for 1.5 million.

SPEAKER_01

So in three years on appreciation, let's say alone, they it tripled its price. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_01

They good for you, Corey and Jennifer Hent.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, they bought themselves a good lottery ticket there. Yeah. Um, but soon after the 1.5 million sale controversy hit, a staff member was fired. She claimed the spirit of a former owner told her he was stealing accusations from staff of mistreatment, and there was a town council that refused to renew their entertainment license in 2024 due to community tensions.

SPEAKER_01

So I believe the the staff mistreatment and the failure to renew your license. Not sure I believe those seem very like, yeah, I I buy that. You failed to renew your license, it's like, ah, the place was haunted.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. The ghost ate my license. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03

Uh, but yeah, Nunez later defaulted on her mortgage leading to the year's foreclosure auction. So um yeah, it might have been a it might have been a lucrative purchase for$1.5 million, but due to all the controversy, due to the issues, the the defaulting on the mortgage, it's uh now going into foreclosure. So we're we're not sure what's gonna happen there, but um, we're gonna get to potential buyers here.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I mean, here it does say the Halloween date wasn't planned for marketing. If it's a legal timeline.

SPEAKER_03

So they say I say I still think it's a way to drum up uh drum up some extra hype.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe it was happening in the fall, and they're like, well, I mean, if it's happening in the fall, you know.

SPEAKER_03

Also, can we shout out to the calendar? I want to give a shout out to the calendar. Uh there's a new segment on the podcast where you talk about things we want to. Well, just no shout outs. We want to give shout outs to things. I'm giving a shout-out to the calendar. Okay. Big ups to the calendar for Halloween being on a Friday this year. I feel like the last few years we've gotten screwed, and Halloween's been like a Thursday or a Tuesday or whatever. But Halloween being on a Friday, love it. That's nice. Perfect. Yes. You get to close the book on work on Friday, put your spooky costume on, go out to the bar, have a few drinks. So it's fun. Good point. Yeah. Are you not a Halloween guy? You don't seem very excited about that.

SPEAKER_01

I like Halloween. No, I mean, like, yeah, I I feel like I mean, even if Halloween wasn't on a Friday, like, it's still like I'd be doing something on a Friday anyways. Like, I I I'm going to the mosque. So yeah.

SPEAKER_03

But it's even it's cooler knowing that the day is on the day. It's like it's Halloween is the day, so it's cool that everyone's celebrating it at the same time and it's on a Friday.

SPEAKER_01

So here's my I mean, this is probably doesn't need to be said, but I I don't love Halloween parties. I love like watching like just spooky movies. That's my favorite Halloween thing to do. Right. And I I feel like I can do that any day of the week. Um, so I feel like Halloween being on a Friday for me, even is like I have like more peer pressure to like go. It's like it's actually Halloween this year to go, you know, to a Halloween party or something. Okay. I'm not a big like party person, but I love the Halloween season and vibe over any other holiday for sure.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. All right. So then potential buyers. Let's talk about this really quickly and then we'll wrap up this article. Because this has been a good discussion. We've already and we've gone way over on time. Whoops. Uh, comedian Matt Reif, who uh the producers mentioned earlier. I was I'm not familiar with this guy, and YouTuber Elton Castille, who are both into paranormal content, have shown interest in the house. Do you know who these people are? I know Matt Reif.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know Elton Castille. Castie.

SPEAKER_03

Got it. But yeah, earlier this year they bought Ed and Lorraine Warren's old Connecticut home along with the museum and the Annabelle doll. So these these comedians and YouTubers have already started like acquiring properties associated with the Warrens. So um yeah, interesting that they're going after the Connecticut home. What I'm curious to know is how much it's the foreclosures, like what it's gonna sell for now. Like that's gonna be really an interesting amount to see. But yeah, Rife, when asked about it, called it, quote, the most important piece of paranormal history in the world, end quote. Whoa. Which is uh high praise. Yeah. High praise. They've expressed wanting to preserve the conjuring house and possibly open it for tours and overnight stays. Would you stay overnight in the conjuring house?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think it'd be cool. Like, I yeah, I mean, I at this point I think it's kind of like it is tourist trappy, but I think it's cool. Like the fact that it actually has a history, you know, is is pretty sweet. Yeah, so could be cool.

SPEAKER_03

I'm reminded of the ghost house sketch from I think you should leave. Uh, but yeah, in closing, the auctions outcome can go one of two ways. An investor could flip it or build on the land, or paranormal enthusiasts are gonna keep it alive with a spooky destination. So, either way, the story, the reputation, it's going to live on in some way, shape, or form. We're just gonna have to see and document on the renti pod. So stick with us if you want to hear what happens.

The Overlook Hotel From The Shining

SPEAKER_01

Would you, if you were in the area, do you think you'd check it out?

SPEAKER_03

Not really. I I don't I don't have enough of a fandom to the conjuring movies, and I don't really care about staying in a spooky house. So no, probably not. Maybe I'll drive by it. Be like, look, there it goes. And keep driving. And then go see whatever else is interesting in Rhode Island. Yeah. Seafood, I'm sure. Rhode Island's got some good seafood. I'm sure. It's by the sea. It's not an island, though. It's by the sea. Okay, cool. That's it for that. And that is the Halloween real estate rundown.

SPEAKER_01

Well, uh, we'll keep things rolling because we actually have Real Estate Real coming next where we're talking about another spooky location. Uh, the Overlook Hotel. Thank you. For the sound effects. That was really good.

SPEAKER_03

I'm gonna do like various Halloween sounding effects while you read this. Ready?

SPEAKER_01

That's supposed to be a wolf. I don't know what that was. It was like half wolf, half owl. Um but yeah, we're doing the overlook hotel from the shining in this segment. Just by the way, for newer listeners, real estate real, we dive into iconic properties from TV and film and explore their real-world locations, values, and quirks. Um, so the Overlook Hotel in Stanley Kubrick's adaptation of The Shining. Oh, yeah. Uh, one of the most chilling cinematic locations ever put to film. In my opinion. I don't know. Oh, yeah. You I know you love The Shining.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I I didn't know if you wanted to read more of the intro before we get into our thoughts. Yeah, you just let me know when you want me to start ripping, because I'll rip.

SPEAKER_01

So, with its grand yet unsettling architecture, uh, the snowbound isolation and the reputation as a place where reality unravels, the Overlook Hotel isn't just a backdrop, it's practically a character in and of itself. Today we're gonna answer if the Overlook was based on a real hotel, what it would cost to stay in or even own the property, could it function as a viable resort in real life? Um, and how has it influenced real world hospitality and pop culture? Sound good? Sounds great. Cool. So just some background in the story: the Overlook Hotel sits high in the Colorado Rockies, hours away from civilization, where winter's cut off access completely. So it's isolated, it becomes that isolation becomes central to the story in the shining, basically trapping this family in in this hotel, and it becomes like a psychological horror. So as far as the shining goes, one of your favorites?

SPEAKER_03

One of my top favorite movies of all time. It's in my letterbox four for people that know what that means. Social media letterbox, you pick your four favorites, it's on there. So if I was ever famous enough, if the Rentish was ever at a red carpet premiere of something, this old house, the movie, or something like that. And Patrick and I were on the red carpet and they walked up to and they interviewed us, and it was like, oh, it's letterboxed. We love letterboxed. It's like four favorites with Patrick Guerrero. And it's like, here we go. So mine will one of them would be The Shining. I got sidetracked. I was fantasizing about us being on a red carpet. That's my dream.

SPEAKER_02

Seriously.

SPEAKER_03

Anyways, uh Yeah, I love the movie. I I I've I've read the the Stephen King novel a long time ago. But yeah, it's really cool. Tried watching the TV series, not very good, but it's interesting. The the sequel that they did, I never read the book, but the the movie Doctor Sleep is also really, really good as well. Uh, it's a recommend for me. Kind of flew under the radar. But yeah, the original Shining, Jack Nicholson, Stanley Kubrick, Shelly Duval, that movie's magic. It's a comfort movie for me, which is awesome. Well, you gave me an eye crook. Comfort. I mean, I I I see what you're saying, though, in a way. Well, it's like, so like, I don't know why. I mean, it's a it's a horror movie, it's definitely spooky, but for whatever reason, that movie's one of those, like, I'm just gonna throw it on because I just enjoy the vibe and the the score, the the the the set design of the overlook. It just looks so good, and Jack Nicholson's performance is so awesome. And I love the mystery, I love the the eeriness of the movie. So it's just like it's one of those weird movies. Like it is a horror movie, but for me it's like kind of like a comfort movie.

SPEAKER_01

I I I need to re-watch it soon. I do have a red rum uh coffee mug. Nice. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So Red Rum, Red Rum, Red Rum, Red Rum.

SPEAKER_01

I love Danny.

SPEAKER_03

Danny! What have you done with Danny?

SPEAKER_01

It's my shit. But uh touch the kid, okay? Anyways, so in real life, the exterior shots in the movie were filmed at the Timberline Lodge in Oregon, located in Mount Hood.

SPEAKER_03

One of my one of my goals is that I've never actually traveled to the Pacific Northwest, and one of my favorite TV shows of all time is Twin Peaks. And you can also visit the the Great Northern and in Twin Peaks. Like the filming location for that is in Oregon as well. And I would love to go to Mount Hood and see the Timberline Lodge as well. So one of these days I'm gonna check both those off the box.

SPEAKER_01

Let us know when you do. We'll do a recap on the part two. But yeah, the interior is not a real hotel of the Timberline Lodge. Did you know that? Yep. Okay. Yeah, I didn't know that. I mean, I would have assumed that it it was, but yeah, Kubrick built massive sets in London's uh L Street studios designed to feel both luxurious and eerily confusing with corridors, impossible windows, and a disorienting layout, which also makes sense uh given given the movie. So Stephen King's inspiration, however, came from a stay at the Stanley Hotel in uh Estes Park, Colorado, an early 1900s resort with its own reputation for being haunted. So it does have an actual inspiration. And I've stayed there. Oh, what? You have?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so it the Stanley Hotel in it's Estes Park, Colorado. But yeah, it's in the Rocky Mountains. I had family growing up in Colorado. So I went out there a lot as a kid. Uh a few years ago, actually, 2022, I think it was, I was helping a friend move from Cleveland, Ohio to California. And on the way there, one of the stops we stayed at was at the Stanley Hotel, and we ended up staying the night there. And went to their their the I think it's called the Golden Room or something, is their bar. I mean, the inside of the place is is gorgeous, and the grounds for the Stanley is beautiful. It's a beautiful hotel. It's very old, but it's like kind of like a rustic, cool kind of old. Like it's not like outdated. It's very much like you would imagine that like very important, powerful people would stay there like back in the day. But it's a cool, it's a cool spot. But but yeah, they have all sorts of art and memorabilia around the walls because of the Stephen King connection. And if my memory serves me right, the TV adaptation of The Shining was filmed there, or certain scenes were filmed there. So they did do some connection to it, but again, the the TV version of The Shining is no bueno.

SPEAKER_01

Gotcha. Well, yeah, I mean, to your point, the Stanley Hotel today, it does lean into the spooky fame, offering like the the uh ghost tours and themed events and whatnot. As far as the isolated luxury, the the remote mountain resorts face high operating costs due to the weather, heating, and maintenance. So that even though that the the hotel would have a bunch of income coming from the touristy stuff, it it's hard to make profitability because of those expenses. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So I mean I mean it's a it's a it's a very stark place to have like I mean like mountain lodges are are fascinating to me because yeah, it's like the whole purpose of the Shining Movie, the way that the movie starts is that they have Jack Torrance be the caretaker of the lodge. So they have to hire someone that's like willing to shut themselves in to this lodge that is basically unaccessible during the harsh winter months. So it's like I couldn't do that. I couldn't do that at all. I I definitely couldn't go isolation for for months in the winter in a big spooky lodge. Like I would lose my I would lose my mind. Yeah. So no wonder why he's like, all work and no play makes Jack a doll boy.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Another fun fact here, the Timberline Lodge was so worried about horror associations that they made Kubrick not use room 217. Yeah. Um, which is a real room, so we had to switch it to 237, which was not a real room at the lodge.

SPEAKER_03

It's funny, I wonder where that number came from. Like, I would love to uh, you know, like where the 237 came from, like why that was the pick. Like maybe it was the first room that wasn't numbered in the original Timberline Lodge, but yeah, I don't know. Cool. Now that number is iconic 237. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No one try and hack me, please. But I definitely use that number for like passwords and stuff when I was like younger, like on email. Yeah, yeah, my login would be like blah blah blah blah blah two three seven.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah, moving moving on. So, as far as in in the movie, like the overlook is portrayed as a sprawling luxury hotel with a law, a grand lobby, a cavernous ballroom, that's a good word, uh, endless hallways, a hedge maze, and dozens of guest rooms. In real life, the Timberline Lodge is is large, but nowhere near the size of the Overlook, or no, it doesn't have that labyrinth aspect either. Uh the interiors were obviously exaggerated to create unease, um, as we talked about with the with the sets. Also, the hedge maze never actually existed. It was purely Kubrick's invention uh to heighten tension, which which also makes sense. Yeah. Okay, so as far as the rent costs and affordability, take a guess as to how much a lodge like that, like the overlook, would take would would cost per night.

SPEAKER_03

Like for a room for a standard room for a night. Well, I can tell you how much I paid to stay in the Stanley. I mean I use that as like a guess, like an estimation. I think it was like$500 for one night, four or five hundred dollars. We split it four ways. So like that was fine for a group of four people or whatever, but yeah, like$500 for the week. So the Timberline Lodge, Oregon, uh$800,$700.

SPEAKER_01

So yeah, so the Stanley is like$400 to$1,200 for a hotel like that, like a real life hotel. Yeah. Um, in like isolated in the mountains. Now for a property with the overlooks grandeur and isolation, that would be closer to$1,500 to$3,000. Like if you were going to like the actual, like how it looks in the movie, sort of thing. Okay. As far as building a remote luxury resort today, that could exceed$200 million factoring in construction, access roads, which is something to consider in this kind of property that you wouldn't have to consider with other kinds of properties. Yep. Um, and also just year-round maintenance, you know, all the way out there in isolation. So the annual upkeep would be enormous with the heating, the snow removal, the staff accommodations. That alone could run millions of dollars per year.

SPEAKER_03

So I I believe it, judging by the state of my electricity and gas bill the last few months. Woof. It's about to get real bad in the winter, too. So yeah. I'm just gonna I'm gonna go Victorian this this this winter and just like bundle up and you know, make a little fire in my house to avoid paying Duke Energy more money.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like I've barely, it's been like fall. I feel like I've barely been using my heating and AC. What temperature do you set your heat to turn on to? Um, I like between 70 and 72 is typically what I do.

SPEAKER_03

That's what you haven't set to?

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You're cooking.

SPEAKER_01

Dude. Dude, my I I walk in sometimes and my girlfriend is there with it's 74, and I'm like, why am I sweating right now? And I have to bring it back down and she gets cold. So we have to find a middle ground. All right, producer musse. What? What do you set your house to?

SPEAKER_00

Um now it's at 63. Okay. Um you guys are freezing. No, but my the home we have right now, it's it's it gets cold really fast inside, but when it's the heat, when it's like during the summer, I usually try to have it at like 68.

SPEAKER_03

But so we finally caved and turned the I wait until the last possible opportunity to turn the heat or the air on in my house. The other night we finally had temperatures in the evenings that dip below 40. And uh right now we have the house set to 53.

SPEAKER_01

Jeez.

SPEAKER_03

And I'll keep that set as long as possible.

SPEAKER_01

That is crazy to me.

SPEAKER_03

Just put on a hoodie.

SPEAKER_01

Alright, I think that's I think we need to wrap this up. We gotta we gotta land this plane. Yeah, there's there's the Overlook Hotel is more than just a fictional setting. It's a case study in how space, architecture, and isolation can shape storytelling. From its real-world inspirations like Timberline Lodge and the Stanley Hotel, to its exaggerated cinematic design, the Overlook blurs the line between fantasy and reality. Uh, while most of us wouldn't want to get snowed in at a haunted resort with ghosts and madness lurking in the halls, it's fascinating to decode the real estate and hospitality layers behind the horror. Like the villas in White Lotus or Jerry's apartment in Seinfeld, the Overlook invites us to imagine what it would be like to actually stay there. Only this time the dream comes with a nightmare.

SPEAKER_03

What a spooky, spooky man you are. Great job. And that's another episode of the Rentish Pod in the books. Thank you all for listening to the show. We appreciate you very, very much for sticking around and hanging with us while we talk about the overlook and we talked about the conjuring house. It's been a very spooky Halloween, would you agree, Patrick? Scared shitless. We're gonna have to censor that now. Remember, follow the pod at the rentish pod on social media. Email questions at the rentishpod.com if you have a question or a topic suggestion, or if you had a famous property that you want us to talk about, or a real estate real suggestion, we love hearing those. So email the pod. We'd love to hear from you guys. And then uh yeah, give us a rating, give us a review, a positive score, 10 stars, five stars, as many stars as they give, and uh tell a friend or two that you like the Rentish and that you think that they should listen. So until the next time, boo scary to you. I hope you have a happy Halloween. I've been Zach. That's been Patrick, and we'll see you next time. The Rentish Podcast is recorded in Cincinnati, Ohio, hosted by Patrick Giro and me, Zach Rotello. Produced by Mousse Gebermescal and Charlene Mulchendani. Edited by Elliot Mongenis. Theme song by me, Zach Rotello.