Candidate Interview: Wilanne Stangel For KY House 69- Local Leadership and Lived Experience

In this episode of The Blue Dot Podcast, hosts Natalie MacDonald and Brian Koehl continue their 2026 election series with a candid conversation featuring Wilanne Stangel, Democratic candidate for Kentucky House District 69. A lifelong Northern Kentucky resident and retired educator, Will Ann is running for the same seat she sought in the previous cycle, citing a deep sense of responsibility to her community and growing concerns about the direction of state policy.

Wilanne shares her personal journey into public service, shaped by decades of work in education, caregiving for family members with special needs, and firsthand experience navigating healthcare, housing, and affordability challenges. She outlines the key issues driving her campaign, including protecting and strengthening public education, supporting Pre‑K for All, addressing the housing affordability crisis, safeguarding healthcare access, and refocusing state government on Kentucky families rather than national partisan agendas.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Welcome to the Blue Dot, Northern Kentucky's premier political podcast, brought to you by the Kenton County Democratic Executive Committee. Welcome back to the Blue Dot Podcast, where we shine a light on local voices, shaping our communities, and we're focused on the 2026 election and the people who want to represent you. And this is the place to learn about where they stand. Thanks so much for joining. I'm Natalie McDonald.

SPEAKER_00 0:23

And I'm Brian Cale, and you're absolutely right, Natalie. 2026 is here, and we're thrilled to see so many candidates stepping up across the state. Joining us today is Will Ann Stangle, candidate for Kentucky House District 69, a seat currently held by Republican incumbent Steve Doan. Will Ann, thank you so much for being here.

SPEAKER_02 0:43

Well, thanks for having me. Yes, thanks so much, Will Ann. So let's start out with your story. Tell us a little bit about you and what inspired you to run for Kentucky House District 69.

SPEAKER_01 0:55

Well, I'm a lifelong Democrat. I've been always involved in the periphery of campaigns, door knocking for other people, and always been interested in running for office, but never was at a point in my life where I could do that until I retired. And um I retired and the in well, I was ready for retirement, and the invitation came for me to run in the last cycle, and I jumped on it. And here I am again for round two.

SPEAKER_00 1:21

So you didn't learn your lesson on the first time around, huh?

SPEAKER_01 1:23

No. I only came in second.

SPEAKER_00 1:26

So So what did you run for before? And can you tell us? I was just curious, you know, like what was po obviously something was positive about that that said, hey, I'm gonna try this again, or what did you see this time around that said, hey, I need to step up again?

SPEAKER_01 1:41

Well, I I ran for the exact same position as I'm running for now. And um, I don't know if that was necessarily a positive that brought me back, but the fact that the negative has not improved in the situation, it's only gotten worse and how it's gonna impact my family, my community. And I felt obligated to make use of the experience and the contacts I'd made and the steps I had made towards this goal and come back and try it again.

SPEAKER_00 2:09

So are you uh finding that this time around, then in terms of your planning, your strategy, and pulling together a campaign, you've learned a lot from the first time around and it's been a little more streamlined, or you're kind of ahead of where you were last time around?

SPEAKER_01 2:20

Or oh, I think definitely ahead of where I was last time around. I know the I know people, I know faces, I've made contacts with people. My name got out there in the community. I am a lifelong resident of this community, so it and I have an unusual name. So if in a way my name was out there before, but now it's seen in a different context. And so that's it, that's definitely been a plus.

SPEAKER_00 2:41

Great. I mean, we've been listening to people all across the county, and I'm sure you have been too, obviously. So, what are the top issues that you've been hearing about that you would uh want to address if you make it to Frankfurt?

SPEAKER_01 2:51

Education, affordability, health care, and honestly a focus on Kentuckians instead of a national agenda.

SPEAKER_02 2:59

Yeah, that that makes a lot of sense because I feel like there's so much chaos chaos going on on the national level that we we can't even focus on that, right? And there's not a lot that we can do right now and with this election to help that. But what we can do is elect local people to our legislature here in Kentucky. So that's a that's a really good point. And um, I know, you know, you mentioned education. You spent two decades in the school system, and we've had a lot of legislation come up that's targeting schools about everything from parental rights to a pre-K for all. So I don't know if you have any insight on some of those bills that just went through the legislature and how you would maybe approach those differently or advocate for different bills if you were uh elected to represent District 69.

SPEAKER_01 3:45

Well, obviously, having spent time in education and had a varied career in education, I actually started out in education for because of my family situation, the option offered to me was to sub in schools to start out. And so I started out as a outsider coming in to sub and starting to see things. And then I went into actual working as an educator, a library media specialist, and that's a little bit of a different thing as well. And we started talking about rights to information and and how we access what's available and how we deprive people of access to availability of resources. So that's a whole thing too. But I worked in private schools and I worked in public schools. So and I worked in inner city schools and I worked out in kind of out in the country and in the suburbs. So I've kind of had a varied thing and I've seen a lot about it. And education is under attack. And um, there are definitely uh there's so many things that they're doing to actually try to discourage people from becoming teachers. I mean, they're attacking the pay scales, they're attacking the uh retirements, they're attacking transportation in terms of getting your kids into school, they're underfunding, they're trying to break the system, and they're coming back when you had every county in Kentucky voted against Amendment 2 to, and yet they're still keep coming back and hitting that again and again to try to divert money from public education. And it's easy to convince an uneducated populace to do things that are not in their best interest. And it's also easy to get by as an employer to pay an uneducated populace a lower wage. And so I think there's there's incentives for a certain group of people to try to dismantle education, but there's certainly an incentive for the rest of us to make it better. I have children, uh, they're adults now, but I have grandchildren coming along. And what they're doing in education is tragic. And it's and it's it's going to affect generations to come if they get away with it. And um, it's just a huge issue.

SPEAKER_02 5:46

Yeah, like you said, they've been trying to talk about these books because so many people don't don't know about them. And I think, as you said, Will Ann, one thing that I I'm seeing across the state and across the nation when we talk about things is people want to support education. And I think a lot of people aren't, you know, political nerds like maybe some of us are, and don't follow these bills. So they don't know this is happening. They don't know, you know, who's who's trying to take away what who's saying, no, we don't need maternity leave for um the for our teachers, or no, we don't want to fund our bus system. Like I and I I think getting that word out there, and then that's exactly going back to your point about keeping things local and really talking about the things that are affecting us here in Kentucky. So it's a good point.

SPEAKER_01 6:31

Well, and even like the retirement systems and things like that and the pays, this pay scales, you know, looking at another big crisis in this area and a lot of areas, the housing shortages and the for the affordability of housing. And the average teacher working five years or less in this area cannot afford housing in this area. Well, how are you going to attract people, good quality people in education if it's a job that they can't afford to live and raise their own family on? And that has an impact. It it goes downhill. It's the the rock that rolls down the hill. And you start at the top, and if you keep pushing the rock down, pretty soon you're at the bottom. And Kentucky has always been in the bottom tier of education, and there's no reason for it. And Governor Bashir's pre-K for all is a huge step for a lot of reasons that it would it ex it would take us up a notch in education. And the fact that we're fighting that is just ridiculous. And I have, I feel like I have a particular dog in that fight when I was um when I first got divorced and I had to start out making a living. I had a son who was in school at the time who has special needs, and I had a preschool daughter at the time. Wow. Education, having a quality education available for my son was paramount to what I needed. But it also limited me in terms of my ability to work because of there was no aftercare uh program available for my special needs son. He couldn't come home and stay home alone, be a latch key kid. There was no before school care. There was no summer vacation, Christmas vacation. There was none of that available for him. So I had to work a system that mimicked his. And the same thing for my daughter. When she was preschool, I had to not only find a job to support us, but I had to find something that would pay for her child care. And all of those factors, if you take that burden off of families, if you provide pre-K for all, not only is the child care there that frees them up to get good quality jobs for themselves, but also the education advantage of having these kids start in preschool. They're ahead of the game by the time they get into kindergarten and get in the first grade. It's a win-win for working families all the way across the board. It would have made a huge difference in my life. And quite honestly, in in my initial career, I was in industrial management and production. I couldn't do that job and follow a school schedule. So it threw me in into this. But had I had that pre-K availability, that childcare availability, that would have economically given me an advantage that I could have taken my family ahead sooner. Luckily, the only option for me at that time was become a teacher. Luckily, I wound up to being a profession that I really loved. But that's not the case with everybody. That's not an option with everybody. And so that pre-K for all is just a win-win all the way across the board.

SPEAKER_00 9:12

Yeah, I think that's uh I was interested in the pre-K for all. Republicans were for it when they had a Republican governor, but now that we have a Democratic governor, they don't want to give Democrats a win. I mean, that is the type of divisiveness that's, you know, ends up with us having a government that's not serving our needs. You know, we're voting in people who have our best interests as the top of mind. So you you mentioned also the the housing and affordability aspects of it. What can you drill down to that a little bit more and what else are you seeing and what uh would you want to work on in the legislature do you think would benefit your constituents?

SPEAKER_01 9:47

Well, housing is a huge issue, but also that has a lot to do with wage earners. The average wages in a lot of areas are not sufficient. You know, I mentioned t school teachers. These are people with they at least have bachelor's degrees. They're educated people, they're most of them are working on master's degrees, and they can't afford the average housing in the communities where they're working. We can't have wages cannot stay down like they are. And we are not we are concentrating so much of our wealth at the top of the scale. And we're making sure that we have tax incentives and tax breaks that disproportionately benefit people in the upper tier. And the lower tier has no path to get ahead. They have no path to even out that scale. And I and you see so much more other community issues that arise from that. If you have a housing shortage, if you have affordability shortage, if you have food shortages, medical care shortages, you have an increase in crime, you have an increase in children repeating the cycle of not being educated enough or cared for well enough to thrive on their own. It's a regressive system. And that's what we're we're investing in a regressive system for the benefit of people that already are doing quite well. And that ultimately, when they're going to be looking for qualified workers for their positions, we're already falling in terms of manufacturing and engineering kind of things. We're failing in that, not just in Kentucky, but in nationwide. We're we're having a hard time finding qualified candidates to meet some of these jobs. We have to invest in that now at the lowest levels of education and in our our middle and lower class, working class communities. You can't get ahead as a as a country, as a civilization, if you allow if you undermine your foundation. And that's what we're doing.

SPEAKER_02 11:31

I I love the way you said that we're investing in regressive policies, right? Yes, regressive situation.

SPEAKER_01 11:38

We're going backwards and what we're investing in.

SPEAKER_02 11:40

And that's why we're progressives, right? We're looking towards the future. So you just talked about you talked a little bit about education. It was your first one, and then you talked about housing. You also mentioned healthcare. So that's kind of the trifecta. So talk a little bit about that healthcare piece of it and what you'd like to address there.

SPEAKER_01 11:58

Well, you know, we talked about the Affordable Care Act, you know, and that's become a boogeyman now. And I remember when that came in, and that was a salvation for my family. The idea that you had pre-existing conditions, and especially for workers when you had to change jobs frequently, which a lot of people do. And you even if you had insurance coverage with your new job, that pre-existing condition, you had to wait a year or so before you it would qualify for anything. And once again, I remember back in the day with the special needs child. My then husband, every time his he worked at kind of medium-sized companies, every time they came up for their insurance contract renewal, they would use the fact that they had a child with special needs on their list to bump up the cost for the entire company. Now, this was not a child that had complex medical needs. He's on the autism spectrum. But they would use that excuse and it would bump up the entire company. And my husband would have to be looking for another job because they would get rid of him. It was it was foolish for them to keep him. And then the problem was my other son, who had severe asthma, had to wait a year and a day without treatment for his asthma before he would be covered for his pre-existing condition. The affordable care took that away. It once again opened up a chance for workers to get ahead and workers to thrive and families to get ahead. And we start backing off on those things, and once again, we're in the regressive situation where we're trying to go back to the, I don't know, the serfs and oligarchs.

SPEAKER_00 13:23

Right. Well, and it's so frustrating because and I don't remember the exact uh number, but when we're spending one to two billion dollars a day in Iran right now, and uh there's been so many people, mostly Democrats, who have come out to say, well, you know, let's see what else we could be doing with that money, right? With the big with the big ugly bill, you know, cutting uh cutting health care, and you know, we're getting rid of the Department of Education and you know, SNAP benefits, et cetera. And you talked about the ACA credits. I think what 10 days of the war could have paid for the ACA credits for this period of time. It's just the the priorities are completely upside down right now. And we need to turn it on.

SPEAKER_01 14:00

But once again, what the amount of that people lose in their workforce for absenteeism, for illnesses where they're caring for themselves or their children or their parents, all those kind of things. If you come into work and you're dragging in the work and you're sick, you're not productive, you know, you're not making good decisions because you don't feel well. There's there's long-term costs that people don't ignore. Having a healthy, educated workforce that can live and not be thinking about where their next meal is coming from or what roof is going to be over their head tonight makes a better worker. It makes a more competent worker, it makes a more successful operation, can you know, business, whatever. We need to invest in it.

SPEAKER_00 14:40

I'm sure when you talk to the unions, they agree with that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:44

Yes. And uh, you know, and I'm totally about the unions because they're out there working for and, you know, they're being demonized in a lot of cases because the people that want to pay low wages and want to abuse their workers are are motivated to not have unions. The unions make the case that a be a better educated, healthier, better paid workforce, and you're not retraining people all the time. If you're paying them decently and treating them decently, they're not quitting every six months. They're they're earning experience, getting better at their job, and making it a a better, more efficient and productive business company, corporation, whatever, work site.

SPEAKER_02 15:22

Yeah, and so I I think again, we can rally around a lot of these issues, and I feel like we all have commonality in that, but I think a lot of people are very disconnected from politics. You know, they don't want to get involved or they're just they just there's too much going on, like you said, at the national level. So how do you feel that you can engage voters and really ensure their voices are heard in the whole legislative process and and get people to rally around and come out and vote and and back you and in your vision?

SPEAKER_01 15:51

Well, for one thing, I've lived this life. I've lived this life. I've been the caretaker that my mother's only child when she had dementia, and I had to work her through work through finding care for her and affording care for her. These Medicaid cuts they're talking about. A lot of people don't realize that Medicaid is the primary funding for most nursing home care. Where do where do you where do you send your mother with Alzheimer's if you can't put her in, you can't afford to send her somewhere that cost six or seven thousand dollars a month? You know, I'd come back to the idea that I have lived this and I know what they're going through, and I know what makes it better, and I know what makes it worse, and I know my own family has suffered or gained that depending on what people down in Frankfurt do, what people in Washington do, and the gaslighting of turning us against each other for issues that are not real pertinent to our lives, so that we get distracted from the fact that, you know, the big issues are getting ignored or underfunded or whatever. And I I think when you talk to people and you make them understand that you're not coming in, like I'm not coming in as somebody who's, you know, flying to Paris to do my fashion shopping or whatever. I'm coming in as somebody that just actually lives here and has lived here. I've taken care of my family, I've taken care of my mother, I've taken care of my son, I've taken care of my grandchildren. And they they're doing the same thing. And they need to have people that are fighting for them, not fighting to boost the profit margins of huge corporations and a national agenda that really has very little to do with what's happening in Erlanger and Ellesmer and Florence. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 17:30

Yeah. Well, we uh, you know, uh everybody talks, Democrats. Well, a lot of people talk about we need people more people like me, more people like us in our government. We talk a lot about Citizens United and, you know, all the dark money, especially at the national level, that makes it really you have to have a lot of money to be able to run for office. And then here we are with your exact lived experience that you just spoke about. I mean, when you talk to your voters, you are, you know, they can share that. That probably resonates with with your voters and the people you talk to because um a lot of them have you know those same kind of challenges, have lived those same kind of lives. Um so uh Will Ann, you have a primary challenger. Can you tell us what set you apart from your uh primary challenger and uh also your, you know, the Republican incumbent, Steve Doan?

SPEAKER_01 18:18

Well, my primary count challenger is a young man. He's a great, great guy, very interested in this community. I think the thing that sets us apart is the fact that I have been in this community for my entire life, that I'm fully vested in this community, and I have experience in this community, and I have name recognition in this community. People know me, they know I've worked in this community, I've lived in this community, I've raised my children in this community. That and I'm sure with time maybe he'll be the same way. But he he is not at this point. That's the difference, that's a difference there. My uh opponent, who was my opponent last time, Mr. Done, his big legislative accomplishments here recently is he got we can have chickens in our yards in our linger, but if you can't afford a house and a yard, what good is it to have chickens? So that's putting the cart before the horse. Make sure people can afford a home with a yard before you work, make sure they can have chickens. And his second big thing, apparently today the news broke, is he's down there intervening in the Matt Bevan divorce case. So there's a lot of kind of hate this word, but toadying to the national party. And we've seen that in all of northern Kentucky, where we look to what some of these national politicians are doing, and we're not we're so busy currying favor with them and making sure that their agenda goes forward and making sure that we have a name associated with them rather than making sure that the people in Erling or Ellesmere, Florence, Cresby Hills, that they have what they need. It's all well and good that Donald Trump has what he needs or Massey has what he needs or Rand Paul or whoever, whatever. That's great. If the people in this district have don't have what they need, then it's a wasted effort.

SPEAKER_02 19:59

You know, when you talk about Steve Doan, it's interesting because I'll talk to people and say, who's your representative? And I will tell you, people do not know Steve Doan represents them. They don't see him, they don't hear from him, he's nowhere to be found. And so I think that goes back to you having that lived experience, living in the community, caring about the community, and you've been so intricate in your involvement in the community, then I think that'll make a huge difference. So when you do get to Frankfurt though, you'll have to work across the aisle with some of these people, right? So what do you think would be your strategy to be able to, and you mentioned it earlier, you know, we we need to work together. How do you feel you could do that with some of the Republican colleagues and in the legislature?

SPEAKER_01 20:43

Well, I'm not gonna lie, it's gonna be challenging because we do have such a political divide right now. But when it all comes down to it, um Steve Down lives in this community. He has children, he has a wife, he has, I believe his wife may be a teacher. It's in his family interest and in his neighbors' interest and his supporters' interest that we are successful as a community and that Kentucky is looking at the needs of our community. And just have to reach out to these people and say, at some point, and we're starting to see this in national politics, people are turning away from this MAGA agenda to a certain extent. And we're starting to see people like Thomas Massey and like Rand Paul kind of backing away from, and you know, and our Northern Kentucky state representation is very tightly aligned with us, particularly Thomas Massey. So they're starting to realize on a national level that what they've been putting forward is not there. And at some point, what they have to re recognize in Frankfurt that what they're putting forward is not working and it's going to turn on them. And we have to make it like hey, you can be the savior in your area, or you can be the villain. So it's in your interest to m at least listen to what we have to say and address it.

SPEAKER_00 21:56

Yeah, it seems like if we can uh, you know, just have a A uh great showing in 2026, midterms, and uh I think uh some Republicans will go, okay, this is the turning point. What this road we've been going down. Yeah, they have to know this path is harrowing, subscribing to Trump's agenda and his view of the world, and they're gonna run into a brick wall at some point, and I'm hoping that's in November of 2026, and then that will help you be able to start working across the aisle. They'll be more amenable to that because they see that as their survival is gonna depend upon it. Um and leadership comes often comes down to just the values. So what principles uh guide you as a candidate and how do they influence your approach to governance?

SPEAKER_01 22:42

I think um I was my mother's only child, and um I'm kind of biased, but I think my mother was one of the best people I ever knew. And my mother taught me that everybody matters. Everybody matters. And I distinctly remember one time when I was a kid, we were driving somewhere, it was very hot, and that was before everybody had air conditioning and yada yada. And there was this older uh black gentleman walking down the street, and he looked a little disheveled, and it was like a hundred degrees outside. And my mother pulled over and said, You know, sir, where are you going? And he was obviously confused. And so she put him in the car and she took him to somewhere that was air conditioned, got him cooled off, found out enough about him to figure out where he came from. He just he was over from Cincinnati. And she took him and arranged, got got put him on the bus, paid his bus thing, and got walked with his family, said he's coming on the bus to here, you know, and even talked to the bus driver. And some of my mom's friends were so appalled that she had done this. This is a stranger. He's, you know, he's a a black man, he's disheveled looking, he looked kind of dirty. You know, why would you do that? And my mom's like, I would want somebody to do that for my family. And that's what it, that's what it's all about. We have to want for everybody what we want for ourselves and our own families. That's what it boils down to, as far as I'm concerned.

SPEAKER_00 24:00

That's that's it's the golden rule. That's the basis of everything. Oh, that was that's a great story, too, man. Your mother must have been quite, you know, quite a person.

SPEAKER_01 24:09

She was also a died in the world Democrat. Yes. When it came time, we were my now ex-husband, obviously, but my husband, he we were early married. He'd gotten out of the military. We moved home, we were staying at her house and trying to find a house of our own and so forth. And um, he was gonna register to vote. My mother called me to come upstairs and talk to her, and she said, Is he going to register to vote? And I said, Yeah. And she goes, How's he gonna register? And I said, I don't know. She said, He registers as a Democrat or he moves out.

SPEAKER_00 24:42

I love it.

SPEAKER_02 24:45

If you're gonna be living under her roof for a little while, right? You do.

SPEAKER_00 24:48

Yeah, that's right. That's right. That's Mama's rules.

SPEAKER_02 24:51

That's awesome. No, that is a great story, and I love those when we get to kind of learn a little bit more about you and who you are, what what makes you and guides you. Um, we also do a lightning round with all of our guests to get to know you a little better, if you would be up for that. Sure. Let's give you five quick questions. The first one's very easy. Um who was the most famous person you've ever met?

SPEAKER_01 25:15

Hillary Clinton.

SPEAKER_00 25:16

Oh, when did you meet her?

SPEAKER_01 25:18

I met her at a fundraiser. Um I guess when she was running for the presidential nomination and had an opportunity to actually talk to her and exchange a few words with her, and it was it was a big moment. Bet.

SPEAKER_00 25:30

Yeah, that'd be great. That's a good one. I love that.

SPEAKER_02 25:33

This one's not quite as serious. Uh, what is your favorite fast food?

SPEAKER_01 25:37

Well, I'm I'm not a great foodie, but it has to have something to do with um probably ice cream of some you know, I I really ice cream, something kind of ice cream place.

SPEAKER_02 25:50

See, I I'm weird because all of my friends, you know, they're like, oh, greaters are the best, greaters are the best. I'm like, give me soft serve, or there's like this brand called Turkey Hill. It's like this cheap little brand ice cream. Like that is the best. Give me like it does not have to be greater.

SPEAKER_01 26:03

If there's ice cream involved, I'm there anyway.

SPEAKER_02 26:05

It doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_01 26:07

But greater, graters is a personal favorite. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:11

Now, do you dip in the gelato? Because golden gelato is the best gelato in all of the land.

SPEAKER_01 26:16

No, if it's not a full fat and it's not got the full ice cream, no, we're we're not we're not going there.

unknown 26:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 26:24

You like what you do?

SPEAKER_00 26:24

It's all or nothing. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 26:26

Love it. Okay. If you had the opportunity to travel, to time travel, would you go back in time or would you go to the future? Back in time. And then I I think we just answered this question. It was do you prefer salty or sweet snacks? But I'm pretty sure that's going to be ice cream.

SPEAKER_01 26:41

It's going to be sweet, yeah. I have to maintain this figure somehow. That's what keeps you so sweet, William.

SPEAKER_00 26:50

That's it. That's it. It took took a lot of work to get that figure.

SPEAKER_01 26:53

That's right. Dedicated effort took me to where I am today.

SPEAKER_00 26:57

That's right.

SPEAKER_02 26:58

And then lastly, who was the politician who influenced you the most, good or bad?

SPEAKER_01 27:04

I would say not necessarily. Well, I d I do remember a little bit because I was a a small child and hearing about this. I'm gonna say LBJ.

SPEAKER_02 27:13

It's a good one.

SPEAKER_01 27:14

LBJ came from a background that you would not think that he would have cared about a lot of the people that he did. And he bucked a southern system that was kind of regressive to do what he thought was the right thing.

SPEAKER_02 27:27

He's a very he's a very interesting president for exactly that reason. He was kind of crass and you know, not exactly PC, but then he went, like you said, out of the box of what you would have expected. I have his autograph behind me down there. I can't reach your point out. But um, awesome. Well, there you go. There's Ratsu bat, right? You survived that. Well, thank you. Appreciate it very much.

SPEAKER_00 27:47

Well, Will Ann, we sure appreciate you joining us, and thank you for sharing your story and your vision. And, you know, the story about your mom was was great. It really says a lot about your roots and what and your values. We really appreciate that. So, where can listeners learn more about your campaign and get involved?

SPEAKER_01 28:03

Well, they can go to my Facebook page, they can go to my website, Will Ann, W-I-L-A-N-N-E, the number four, K-Y. Will Ann for Kentucky.

SPEAKER_00 28:13

Will Land for KY. All right. That's great. Well, again, thank you so much for joining us, and we wish you the best of luck, and we'll be uh, you know, rooting you on and following your campaign.

SPEAKER_02 28:23

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