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Today we're talking about something extraordinarily uncomfortable but necessary because once again, we find ourselves in a position where a spiritual leader or guru has been found to not be who they say they are. And we're talking about Deepak Chopra and the Dalai Lama being named. In the Epstein files. Around this time last year, this channel started getting popular because I called out another spiritual leader, Aubrey Marcus, for his foolishness and what he was doing to his wife. Publicly and the whole polyamory thing. And way too much, uh, psychedelics. And now here we are with Deepak Chopra and the Dalai Lama, uh, being named in the Epstein files with Deepak Chopra. Actually emailing this guy after we knew that he was a. PDF file. So first, let me say this clearly being named in documents is not the same of being convicted of a crime and because of legal reasons, I have to say allegedly, although you can probably tell by the fire in my voice where my stance is on this because I've been known to call these people out on this YouTube channel and actually for years and today I'm going to be sharing some things I've never shared publicly before, after having been in the coaching and personal. Development industry for 15 years. But let me unequivocally say that this is disgusting what we're seeing in these emails. It is shameful. It is horrifying that this is happening. I mean, these are young girls. We're talking about here at this point, but at the same time it's not surprising because this is a tale as old as time itself. So welcome to this channel where we talk about how to manifest what you want in life without all the extra stress, chaos, and drama that most people are accustomed to. Normally, I would be on video, but if you saw my last live stream, we just rescued an injured puppy. So I'm a little occupied and not able to get dolled up and get everything set up for videos. So this is gonna be audio only and it's still going to be available on the podcast. If you're interested in that kind of content, make sure to subscribe and hit the notification bell so you don't miss a single video or podcast episode that we have coming out. And, uh, without further ado, let's get into it. So, as I mentioned, this is a tale as old as time. Um, spiritual leaders of every tradition. Having abusive power. Is literally nothing new. I've actually known about this since I was pretty young because I grew up Catholic and if you've studied the history of the Catholic church, you know what kind of foolishness has been going on inside of the Catholic church for about 2000 years. That being said, um, my mother taught me something and my father as well taught me something really important. They're still practicing Catholics. I'm not obviously, but they did tell me something really important when I was young that I want to share. With you today. And that important thing is that they said to me, number one, this is in their words, um, you know, the devil or ego or the enemy, or whatever you wanna call it, they're Christian, so they're gonna say the devil, uh, loves spiritual spaces. Loves it, right? The ego also really loves spiritual spaces. In fact, it oftentimes thrives in spiritual spaces. Now, if you're coming from a Christian background like I did, um, then, you know, you know, it's like an attack on truth, an attack on the church, an attack on what Jesus said, an attack on spirituality, on attack, on the truth, on the real truth of how this stuff is supposed to work. Um. And if you're perhaps in more secular spaces or more, uh, spiritual spaces, then you know, it's your ego showing up to show you your shadow. So egos. Like I say, love, love, love spiritual spaces. So it's not unusual for us to see these things happening, and I'm sorry to burst the bubble of anyone, uh, who puts spiritual gurus on a pedestal, but it just is what it is. This is, this is nothing new as horrifying and as shocking and as disgusting as it is in how we need to condemn it. And I think the United States government should be, you know, pressing charges on people. But it seems like that's. Not gonna be happening because they would much rather protect, uh, powerful people than the actual victims of these crimes. Um, again, that's not surprising at all. And I'm not saying that to say, you know, that we shouldn't care. I'm just saying that because, you know, a lot of people are just now really waking up to how this world. Actually works. And the other thing that I learned from my parents growing up that I have taken with me throughout my spiritual journey is the fact that never put a human on a pedestal. Never ever, ever put a human on a pedestal, especially a spiritual teacher of any kind. Uh, because again, my parents are Catholic. So the way that they said it to me, there's like, what? There's like, you know, this is what Jesus taught and this is how humans distort everything. So that's also really important for us, um, to keep in mind. I think that's lesson number one here. I said it last year when I called out Aubrey Marcus and his foolishness and, you know, held his feet to the fire. Same thing. Stop putting these people on a freaking pedestal because when we put these people on a pedestal, we are not helping this situation. So. Let's talk a little bit about why this conversation is bigger than just one headline. This is bigger than Deepak. This is bigger than the Dalai Lama. This is bigger than whatever spiritual teacher guru, uh, priest, pastor, rabbi, whatever has been caught. Buddhist monks have been caught doing horrendous things since forever, and, and again, that's not shocking, but this is bigger than just that. The reason why I'm doing this episode is because many of you listening are coaches, your leaders, or perhaps you are aspiring coaches and leaders and spiritual teachers, or you're looking for real answers. I've had conversations with many of you where you've had a lot of pain in your life. Um, you've had to overcome a lot and you're, you're really looking for answers. You're really trying to heal yourselves. A lot of you reach out for relationship advice. Sometimes it's money stuff, but a lot of you are looking for answers. So that's why I wanna have. This conversation because quite frankly, it's necessary. As I said, abusive power in spiritual spa spaces is not new. It's ancient. It thrives in these kind of in environments. And I wanna share something very personal here. So before my husband and I built the life that we have now in Mexico, we were actually really deep in the coaching and personal development industry. My husband ran a marketing agency. I ran a sales training company, and we worked with a lot of coaches. We worked with a lot of spiritual teachers. We worked with big names, we worked with up and coming names, and in fact, one of my colleagues trained Deepak Chopra sales team years ago, and I'm sure she is shocked right now. And here's what most people do not say out loud, although I do see people like Issa Rankin talking about this right now is shout out to Lissa Rankin for being so open about it. My husband and I saw things. We saw egos out of control. We saw manipulation disguised as empowerment. We saw financial exploitation justified as spiritual growth. And when my husband and I met, uh, we were both so exhausted by it that we wanted no part of this world anymore. So me letting go of my old business, as I've mentioned many times on, on this YouTube channel, wasn't just about me living more from a place of feminine energy and wholeness and really. Reparenting myself and moving into a more mindful way of living. Um, it's just also that I couldn't stand by the industry that I'd been in for 10 to 15 years. I couldn't do it anymore and neither could my husband. So we, because we wanted no part of that world anymore, we moved away from it. And my husband did shut down his marketing agency and he pivoted into relocation and real estate. Here in Mexico, which we love. Very different from what we were doing before, but we love it because it's grounded work. It's real value exchange. It's a quote unquote, real business. Now, I'm not saying that if you're a spiritual teacher coach, you can't have a real business. That's why I'm using the quotations. But there is something really tangible there with the relocation and real estate business that feels really good after having spent over a decade in more of the coaching and spiritual and more, I guess, intellectual spaces if you want to talk about that. So there's real value exchange there, and it would take me years to muster the courage to start mindful success path literal. Years because I had seen the dark underbelly of the guru industry. I'd seen the dark underbelly of the coaching industry. I had seen what happens when admiration turns into power and then that power turns into utter delusion and mindful success path is a part of a much larger vision that my husband and I hold. And it is a vision to help people heal and to come back to themselves, not to make us their gurus. We have zero interest in being a guru because we have already seen what that dynamic does to people. And now I wanna speak directly to those of you who are leaders. Because as our work expands here in Mexico, and as more people seek our help through the relocation business, and then also now here on mindful success path as, as we get trained more from our teachers here in Mexico in healing arts and energy work and spiritual healing, as attention grows, um, we know that we have to be very intentional about staying grounded. And if you want to be a spiritual teacher or a coach or have a business in that. Realm. And even if you don't, quite frankly, because I've seen people, like before I was doing that, I was in finance and I definitely saw a lot of inflated egos and power trips and abusive power there as well. So it's just a good, um. Hygiene in general, good energetic hygiene to be intentional about staying grounded. And my husband and I have been very clear about this because of everything that we saw previously that left us feeling pretty jaded. So here's what we personally do that you yourself can do as well. We regulate our nervous systems constantly because expansion or attention or people needing you or people projecting on you, whether it's good or bad, people projecting on you, or people wanting you to be their teacher, or people seeing you as an authority or making more money or having more success, or having more visibility, all of that. It creates stimulation and if you do not stabilize your body in those moments, your ego is going to try to stabilize itself through control or your ego is going to love it and want more of it and more and more and more and more. I actually don't really understand people. I never have, I guess my husband hasn't either, who like live off of like attention and. Um, praise and people being up their butt holes, as I say, because I, I've been, you know, I've been coaching to some degree for 15 years and whenever somebody tried to put me on a pedestal or make me their guru, um, whether it was in finance or sales training or something else that we were talking about, I would get so uncomfortable because, um, to me it was a very uncomfortable feeling. I don't like being put. On pedestals like that, I have no desire to be put on pedestals like that. I just wanna meet people where they're at and do my work. That's it. That's all I wanna do. But there are people out here, uh, as we have seen over and over and over again with these gurus that get caught doing crazy things who feed off of the attention, who feed off of the power, who feed off of the devotion, and it's a very dangerous drug. Um, again, my husband and I have seen what that does to people. So personally, my husband and I, we don't take praise too seriously. This is a rule. We don't take praise too seriously, and we also don't take criticism too seriously either because both can inflate or distort you, and both can feed your ego. And to be honest, neither praise nor criticism actually defines you. Yeah. We also, before we do any work, especially with mindful success path, we guess God's spirit, the universe, whatever you wanna call it for guidance. We do not try to manufacture all of the answers ourselves. If we don't have an answer that someone asks us, we will say, we don't have an answer. Let's see if we can find one and we'll get back to you. Right? We don't pretend to have all the answers because this is not about us. It is not about our egos, this mindful success path project and every project that we do, because now with the relocation and real estate business, with entrepreneur, expat, we're building way more community, uh, in person, and we are gonna have more community events in our area. Um, because that's a really important thing that we've learned, we've learned here in Mexico that really helps people thrive. It's about service, right? It, it's about actually helping other people not serving. Ourselves. So we constantly have to check ourselves to make sure that we are in that right energetic state. And in order to do that, we do our own work. We do our own practice, we do the meditation, we do the shadow work, we do the honest self inquiry. We work with our own mentors and healers who will call us out if we're acting out of pocket. Uh, we'll call each other out if someone's acting out of pocket. And we are not above guidance. Because at all, whether it's from our mentors and healers and teachers or from each other, because even if one of us starts drifting, or if one of us starts believing our own hype too much, the other one is gonna say something immediately. Because leadership without accountability, it's going to rot from the inside out. And if you want to be a coach, if you want to be a healer, if you want to be a spiritual teacher, if you have a, that calling. On your life to be in this space in some way, shape, or form, you have to understand that this path is not about admiration. It's not about followers, it's not about attention. It's not about being the influencer. It's not about money. It's not about any of those things. It's actually about responsibility and it's about remembering, and I think this is probably what happened to Deepak and the Dalai Lama, from what I've heard. Um, and Aubrey and all these, you know, spiritual gurus who start believing their own delusion in the world because no one's checking them and they're definitely not checking themselves. A lot of times when you're on the spiritual path, it's about remembering that you are human. And I understand that. That sounds really weird because the whole point of a spiritual path is to be like, wait a minute, we have to remember that we're spiritual beings. Yes, we do. But if you're going to be a leader in the space, you also have to remember that you are human. Because constantly people are going to be projecting on you some sort of, I don't know, guru status, even deity status, uh, to some point. Like there's going to be other people in your life who are going to forget that you're human if you decide to step up into spiritual leadership and you better not. Forget that you're human and you better not forget that you have an ego and you better not forget to do your shadow work, and you better not think that you're above guidance or any of those things because it will come back to bite you in the ass and you will start believing your own bullshit and you will start falling for your own delusion because you are still human and you have to remember to stay in practices that keep you human. So. Instead of only asking, with this whole situation with Deepak and the Epstein files and the Dalai Lama and all the gurus that have been called out all throughout time, and then people get disappointed. Instead of only asking how could this happen, you need to ask a deeper question. If you were given influence, attention, and power. What systems would you have in place to stay grounded? Because spiritual leader leadership does not just reveal your light, it also reveals your shadow. In fact, it's oftentimes said that people who step into spiritual leadership or have a. Like a true calling into spiritual leadership that they're going to be tested. And that's a part of, of the process now because of the very nature of influencing so many people, it also tends to attract a lot of psychos who want power over other people, which is also why it's so important that we practice discernment. We learn how to be our own authority. We stop outsourcing our authority to other people. And I'll say, I said it with Aubrey Marcus. I'll say it with Deepak and I'll say it with the Dalai Lama. Stop outsourcing your authority to these people. Stop doing it. Any good spiritual teacher is trying to help you build your own authority in life, not. Them being your authority. And you know, it's really important that people understand that, that if you step into spiritual leadership, it's going to reveal your shadow. And if you do not face it willingly, life is going to expose it publicly, which is exactly what we see happening with Deepak. Exactly what we see happening with the Dalai Lama, especially what we see. 'cause it's almost like expected from like the politicians and stuff like that to have been in the Epstein files where it's. Expected that you know people, I think there was some guy with some giant corporation in the UAE whose name was dropped. Like that stuff is expected. Oh, corporate greed and politicians and all the nasty things that go on there. Well, it should also be expected in spiritual spaces because. You know, spiritual spaces, just like government, um, and just like, you know, areas where there's corporate greed is a feeding ground for ego and it's very attractive to psychopathic people who wanna have power over other people just because of the very nature of what the job is. So we have to be really. Really clear about that. And we do not need any more untouchable figures. We need more grounded leaders, and we also need more mature students, disciples and followers who stop giving their authority to other people who stop giving their authority over to humans. And that is the real evolution. It's not about building bigger platforms. It's not about, you know, who can I get to put a blurb in my book? It's not about how many Instagram followers do I have. It's not about how much money can I make. It's really about building deeper integrity and remembering that no human. Should ever sit between you and your own inner knowing. And that is why on this channel and in all our courses and all our programs, whether it's money or whether it's dating and relationships, or many of the questions that you all are seeking answers to, which whatever problem you're having in life, most of it can be solved by, you know, regulating your nervous system. Honestly, and this is part of what we learned in our training. Here in Mexico is, everything starts in the nervous system, right? So if you wanna have authority over your own life, this is one of the reasons why we talk about nervous system regulation so much. This is one of the reasons why we talk about. Understanding how your mind and your body and your spirit all work together. Because sometimes what happens in these spiritual spaces is like it's all woo woo and all up in the air and all airy fairy, and then you all start believing your own bullshit, and then you start believing somebody else's bullshit. And it just gets super delusional because people are not rooted in reality. And they're not rooted in their own bodies and they completely forget that they're human. And that's why I go so hard in helping y'all understand how your nervous system works and how to regulate it so you can be in a place of calm and so you can heal your body, so you can heal your relationship, so you can heal your financial situation. So you can really have more inner knowing and wisdom. That doesn't just come from some airy fairy theory, but that comes from a very. Grounded, deep place of wisdom within you. And there's a lot more that I could talk about when it comes to that, but I think the, the primary message of this podcast has come through absolutely disgusting what we are seeing, um, in these emails, but unfortunately. Not surprising. And the lesson here for those of you who are looking for spiritual leaders or spiritual teachers is to use your own discernment and know that if people are leading you away from yourself and not helping you figure out what that deep inner wisdom within you is run, they're not legit, if any, if everything just goes back to them. I think the other lesson here that everybody's learning is, yeah, we live in a crazy F-ed up world. Um, many of us woke up to that a long time ago. Some people are just waking up to it now, and it's, it's absolutely horrifying. A thousand percent, but it still exists and it's the deep underbelly of the world that we're dealing with. Um, I think the other lesson here, and I understand that a lot of people don't even wanna confront that because it makes them so freaking uncomfortable, but it's not a 0% chance. That those emails are real. It's not a 0% chance that a lot of the conspiracy theories like that we, people were freaking out about a few years ago. Like the Pizzagate one are real. It's not a 0% chance that a lot of the, the spiritual community and industry, if you want to call that, call it, that, it's absolutely tainted with a bunch of psychopaths. Just like a reli, just like religion is. Just like politics is just like science sometimes is like all these things that people turn into religions and that they put on a pedestal are literal feeding grounds for ego. So it's not a 0% chance that all these abuses have been going on, and that it's way worse than any of us had ever imagined. So I, and it's, it's, it's, it's confronting reality and how crazy it is. And the good news is it's all coming out baby. It is all coming out. So if you are listening to this, it's in the astrology, it's in eastern astrology. It's in western astrology. It is. And you don't even need to follow astrology. You just know it is all coming out. And I've been warning about this since my husband and I, um, left what we were doing several years ago because we were exhausted about it. I'm like, if you are not, if you are not. Living what it is that you are teaching as a spiritual leader, oh, you are going to get exposed. You're going to get very exposed. We've been seeing it happen more and more and more and more intensely, and it's not over yet. So buckle up ladies and gentlemen 'cause we're gonna be seeing a lot more of this. I think the other lesson here is to learn not to put any of these people on a freaking pedestal. They're all human and that's not to excuse their behavior. Um. That's more so that we have responsibility for how we are idolizing. Um, others, of course, in miracles talks about, you know, not idolizing anybody. Right? And this is one of the reasons why, and there is a also a, a saying that says, don't meet your heroes, right? Because they're going to disappoint you. Um, and I've met a lot of my heroes and several of them have been a disappointment, so that that is very true. So that's where we have to take responsibility. Like where are we projecting onto these people thinking that they have, um, more answers than we do? Or where are we projecting onto these people thinking that, you know, there's some sort of enlightened person where, where are we projecting onto them? Where are we putting them on a pedestal so that we can stop doing that? And then I think, um. The other lesson here, for those of you who are spiritual leaders and who are, uh, coaches or healers or anybody in that space, is this stuff comes with a lot of responsibility and you are going to be tested and you have to do your work in order to stay grounded. I cannot. Tell you how many coaches there are out here, how many healers, big names up and coming names, who are a hot ass mess behind the scenes and they do not walk their talk at all. We've seen it with our own two eyes. So don't be that person. Walk your talk, do your work. Um, you know, if, just, just live with integrity for crying out loud. Just be, um, have integrity in the work that it is that you're doing in the world. And don't pay attention to the praise. Don't pay attention to the attention. Don't pay attention to the number of followers or the amount of money. You know, all that stuff is just a resource for you to help more people anyway. It doesn't really mean anything. About you. So I hope this was helpful. I hope I know, you know, hopefully this brought a, a different angle, uh, to this conversation. Unfortunately, this isn't gonna be the last time we talk about these sorts of things happening. I said that with the Aubrey Marcus episodes last year. Now we're doing it with Deepak and the Dalai Lama, and it's just going to keep happening, y'all. So the best thing that we can do for ourselves is to, like I said, stop putting these people on a pedestal. Don't ever put me and my husband on a pedestal. By the way, if you've been thinking about it, don't do it. Um, we're not gonna let you. We don't want it. Please don't do it. Um, stop projecting these things onto other people and start really understanding yourself and how you move through the world and your own lens of discernment and learning how to give love to yourself and creating your own relationship with God or spirit and the universe, because no human should ever get in between you. And that, and that is when you really start to experience a lot more, um, liberation and then finally stay grounded. Because the, the number one thing I've seen, whether it was Aubrey Marcus or Deepak or the Dalai Lama or whoever else, um, is they don't stay grounded. They don't do their work. They just start believing so much of their own bullshit and so much of their own delusions. And then they try and bring other people along for the delusion. They, they, it is like the delusional rollercoaster, but they try and. Um, get everyone to ride on with them. And that tells me like, people are not grounded. They are not embodied. And you have to, you have to, you have to, you have to, whether you are a student of spiritual principles or you are a teacher of spiritual principles, it's not just teaching it, it's just not, it's not just talking about it. It's about really truly being embodied and grounded in it. It's about bringing it back to reality because some of these people left the reservation a long, long. Time ago. All right, let me know your thoughts about this situation in the comments. Um, make sure to like and subscribe wherever you're listening to this, whether it's YouTube or Spotify or, um, apple. Make sure to leave us a review if it's Apple. I keep forgetting this is also in podcast format and I keep forgetting to ask for that. Thank you so much for being a, a part of this community. I know that the people who follow Mindful Success path, you know, those of you who are leaders and teachers, like you're trying to do right by people. And I think that's why it was so important to have this conversation because I'm trying to do right by people too, and so is my husband. And it can be really disheartening, um, when you see stuff like this starting to happen over and over and over again. But it is just the reality of the world that we live in. And the only thing we can do is take responsibility for ourselves and how we are showing up. Thank you so much for giving me your time today, and I'll catch you on the next one.