The dick of cards falling again

Well shock horror..... after a brilliant 2 nil win against Bristol City our beloved foxes return to default position of making a complete hash of it at home to QPR.  Your hosts Foxtrot and Oscar discuss the club, results and its impact on fans. 

But as always we remain forever optimistic..... well, we do try. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:03

So, hello and welcome to another episode of Foxtrot Oscar Podcast. I'm Foxtrot. And I'm Oscar. And together we'll ramble, talk nonsense, um, thoroughly depress you, maybe give you a titter or two, um if you've not already got your own titters. But um, you know, we'll just have a bit of a laugh, shall we? Indeed, absolutely. Absolutely. But as I always start off with every week, how's your last week been since the last podcast, Oscar?

SPEAKER_01 0:30

Er well I've been um those odd nice uh days where it's been nice weather, it's been been lovely. Yeah. And I'll come into that. I'll mention that in a moment. Um but yeah, it's nice to see the sunshine. The spring is almost sprung. Almost. If we could say that. But yeah, anyway, so yeah, that's it's been uh nice to get out in the garden and all the other bits yeah cleaning up after that winter grime and all that.

SPEAKER_02 1:01

Now one one thing I've just got off about. You haven't been caught naked in Tesco's again, have you in this last week? Oh God wish you wouldn't see that.

SPEAKER_01 1:07

It was Audi Price is horrendous in Tesco. I can't afford Tesco. My God. Um yeah, it's okay. Right okay. Disclaimer, we're only joking. Though I did was in Tesco um early in the week, uh Tesco in Ashby. Oh we alright. And one thing that caught my eye was bless her, there was a there was an at this is true. There was an little an assistant there, she's got her full you know, the regadia on or the uniform, whatever. Yeah. And she can only be about what four foot a highest or about three foot nine, yeah, very tiny lady. Pocket rocket. Well, immediately I thought, well, every little helps. So I thought, good on Tesco, they're actually backing up their slogans to with their employment. But if she's listening, I yeah, I hope this goes over your head. Like most things. Um but I mean yeah, it's just a joke, yeah. But no, you're I I think anybody has gone to Tesco Ashby, bless her. She's uh And we're not being shortest because I'm only three foot seven. Exactly, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So but it just made me chuckle when I see that. And you've got to I think being Neta fans, we have to chuckle at the slightest thing. Absolutely there's nothing to laugh at with Leicester itself, is it? Well, actually, no, quite the opposite, we have to laugh at it.

SPEAKER_02 2:28

We have to um because it's utter utter turgid dog shit at the moment on the field. So we'll I I tell you what, actually, I'll I'll um I'll just ramble a little bit on about a couple of things I've done this last week, and then we'll get straight into get the two games out the way. Please. Because I think once we've got the one game was okay, yeah. Well, yeah, one one really positive game, one really negative game, and uh then we'll discuss a few more interesting things after that. But in this last week, what have I done? Well, I've just come from uh it was a short run um up Bradgett Park, but I did four miles just before coming on the pod now.

SPEAKER_01 3:02

So um But it doesn't count having a run in your car, Jason.

SPEAKER_02 3:06

Ah yes, I did get told told off by the Rangers a few times for uh yeah for driving on some of the tracks. But uh anyway, um yeah aside from that. Yeah. So that was nice. Um and over this last week I've done you know what? Uh I d I do do a challenging job, let's say, um, condom tester for the rich and famous. Um haven't done haven't done nights for quite a while in this challenging role though, and I did a couple of nights over the weekend just gone, which meant I couldn't go to uh sadly but gladly to the QPR home game because I would have been a coat toasted predator.

SPEAKER_01 3:44

We would have gone, wouldn't we?

SPEAKER_02 3:45

But um yeah, unfortunately you were way laid because in between the nuts and sort of trying to sleep, although not successfully.

SPEAKER_01 3:52

That might have been my fault to be.

SPEAKER_02 3:53

Well I kept getting text messages from some unknown person who kept waking me up. But you know, aside from that, I was in a really happy mood. I sorted that out for you, didn't I? Yes. That'll learn you. That was a teacher in Leicester fan. Um but anyway, sorry, we died in. Yes, yeah. Okay, so aside from all those exciting developments, um let's go ramble straight in, let's get these out of the bloody way. So, Leicester City 2, Bristol City nil. Clean cheat, I hear you say. First one in 31 games, I think it was at that point.

SPEAKER_01 4:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:23

Uh that was 10th of March 2026. Team news was Stolarchik, Hamza, Akoli, Nelson, Luke Thomas, Abdul Fataw, Skip, um BDCR, JJ, Mabadidi, IU, uh, subs were Ricky P for Hamza, Ribo for Fatawoo, Mukasa for BDCR, Winx for JJ, Dakar for IU, and subs not used were Monga, Lascelles, Diez, and Richards. 17 shots, five on target to there, nine, one on target, 42% possession, 21st place, 11 wins, 11 draws, 15 defeats, minus 7 goal difference, 38 points at that at that point. Whoops is a love. Uh spoiler alert for the next game. Uh Nelson and Fatua with the goals. Um did you uh watch that one, uh Oscar?

SPEAKER_01 5:18

I did, and um I think we're we're the better team. Obviously, the result showed that there was a couple of scary moments. The uh obviously we had the the uh penalty that we conceded.

unknown 5:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:31

Um about a great save by our goalkeeper, but let's be honest, the penalty itself was a bit lame.

SPEAKER_02 5:38

Yeah, it was a poor penalty, but it's got to be the save. Alright, you've still got to save it, but um but yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_01 5:43

I don't think we should overveg it and say, Oh, what a brilliant goalkeeper is saved a penalty. As Roy Keane would say, that's his job. So yeah, you have to temper it that way, but we're not negative, we'll have to be positive 2-0, a clean sheet for a change.

SPEAKER_02 6:00

And out of the relegation zone again.

SPEAKER_01 6:01

And at the relegation zone, I thought, wow, we are yeah, are we cooking on gas? Probably not, we're probably cooking on water as usual, but it's uh yes, indeed. Yeah, I was wow, here we go. Yeah, it's let's kick on. Absolutely. And I wasn't it uh don't get me wrong, I don't the the phrase we promote wasn't going through my mind at that point.

SPEAKER_02 6:22

It was still we relegate, but um it was a yes, yes. Quite a wise man once said those phrases, didn't he? Oh no, no, it was top. Uh right, okay, moving swiftly on. Um so yeah, we can't want to sort of go rabbit too much on about that, although it was a great win, it's probably given us a bit of false hope, which has soon been extinguished by the next game. Um which was Leicester City won QPR three on the uh 14th of March 2026, as in like two days ago. Um Stolarchik, Akoli, Nelson, Luke Thomas, Hamza, Fatowu, Skip, Mukasa, JJ, Mavadidi, Jordan Ayu, um, although I think no, actually, Jordan Ayu didn't play, does it? Wasn't wasn't it? A dummy from a shop.

SPEAKER_01 7:09

Oh no, sorry, yeah, he was there, yes, yeah. He was that statue in the middle of the park. Ah, yes.

SPEAKER_02 7:16

Not up front though. He wouldn't have given the defenders anything to worry about, would he? No. No, he was just a worry in the uh centre circle. Um right, okay. So subs were Ricky P for Hamza, Richards for JJ, Winks for Skip, uh BDCR for Mukasa, uh Daca for IU, um subs not used were Vietz, Monga, Lascelles, and Ribo, um, or Harrybo, as I like to call him. Um, and that was nine shots, two on target, two QPRs 14, three on target. Um, how many did the score out those three on target? Three. Ah, all three of them. Right, okay. There we go. We had 62% possession though. Uh, and as usual did Fuck all with it. 23rd place, 11 wins, 11 draws, 16 defeats, minus 9 goal difference, 38 points still. Uh JJ with our goal, which was a good goal, apparently.

SPEAKER_01 8:05

I mean the first half we were up and atum. I thought it was um Mavididi came close. Um Fatui was a bit off, I thought he wasn't having his better games. Mavididi looked the most threatening. Yeah, I thought. Um although he's not got his uh shooting glasses on now, he didn't seem to be hitting the target like he has been in the past for us, but at least he was up there and looking threatening. Yeah. Um but again, where do you start? Just where do you start with that mean? Because I going back to what I was saying earlier, so half time popped out because it was nice weather. Yeah. I would have spotted guardian and I was getting carried away to my guardian, come back, so it's back. I think it was 55 minutes at Com. Come in, they say, Oh, let's see how if we've got um see if we've got a goal of say, Oh, since Kings Gross, it was one all at half time. So, and I said I remember texting you, I think we're good enough to um move uh push on and it was two-one, but to QPR and then not long after that three-one and you think and I turned off at that point. I thought it's the same old turgid shite, and um it's like again, are you? Why the hell are we playing him? Why or why are we playing the man?

SPEAKER_02 9:28

Um yeah, I think I've I've consistently said over the uh period of time we've been doing this pod, which is you know getting on towards a year now, um, but I for me, uh I think I mentioned it on the last pod, didn't I? Um pound for pound, probably the worst signing we've ever made.

SPEAKER_01 9:43

I agree entirely, and also to me, also very symbolic of where we are as a club. Absolutely, yeah. We're in the Premier League and we pay money for an average Joe, or below average Joe, who is coming to the end of his career, yeah, and we pay money for him.

SPEAKER_00 10:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:03

This is a club that spends 40 million 40 million on Tielman that lets him run out of his contract, but don't worry, we'll sign a useless player for six million. And he is useless, I'm sorry, but I I we're not here to say if the nice people, this that the other they might do a lot for charity, but on the pitch he is woeful.

SPEAKER_00 10:21

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:22

And it it begs a question: this is uh this is something uh I need to say. Who is in control of the club? Because from Steve Cooper through to um Gary Rowlet, it's it all inevitably it's the same lineup, same formation, same group of players by and large, give or take a couple of transfer windows, and same tactics and same lily livered performances. And when we do put in a performance, like the first half against QPR, it then we can't sustain it. We last forty-five we last forty-five minutes, and then we huff and puff. Well, I think the the the other thing is just yeah, absolutely the same thing. A lot of it to me is fitness levels. Again, we they they seem to run out of steam, other T players seem to be a lot sharper and faster, and they can defend all the huffing and puffing that let all throw at them and they and they'll hit you on the back and destroy you. And that's been happening every week with this uh uh with this team.

SPEAKER_02 11:27

I think the the the mental fragility as well. So I think you know, if you think about it uh on the Bristol City game where we conceded the penalty, conceded the penalty, gave away the penalty, but didn't concede the goal, thankfully. I think if that had got in, we would have either drawn or lost that game.

SPEAKER_01 11:46

Hundred percent agree. Definitely.

SPEAKER_02 11:48

So the the mental fragility, what I mean by that is any sign of a shake, uh shake, an adverse sort of uh thing going on on the pitch, etc. We just fold like a pack of cards, you know, that have never played together before, or just uh you know, there's just no mental resilience there whatsoever, is there? Now, I'm sure that'll somehow be turned round and blamed on the fans or or or something else, but quite frankly, uh if you're getting paid 80 bags a week and you're strolling around a football pitch, um I think you're the fault.

SPEAKER_01 12:20

I think the problem is, and uh I think if you comp compare, bear in line this is a very similar squad, more or less, one or uh apart from one or two players, the squad as it stands is not too indifferent to the one that got promoted under Mars Eska. The thing is, we um back then though, I think Marce Eska had that ability to galvanise them all and give them the belief. Yeah, which is the imp this is why getting the manager right is so important. Absolutely. And he gave them the uh you could see it, and they were playing as a team.

SPEAKER_00 12:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:53

And also back then, we didn't have how many lone players a couple of seasons ago did we have? When we we bought players, didn't we? We bought Mavididi, etc., and all that. Fatara was unknown, but that was gonna be always gonna be made per permanent anyway. Yeah, yeah. But by and large, it was players that had been bought brought into the club as permanent transfers. Yeah. Um and you look at it this season, um and again after the January transfer window, it's just heavily reliant on um your low-knee players, and JJ is a great player, and I would love for him to stay at the club because I think he's absolutely an amazing player for us. A one for the future, whether there's a future with us, remains to be seen. Um but we've can you really create a team? And then for this division, I think you need to galvanise a team, people who are at the club, act it into the club, and get them and get that sort of get get them gelling. I think it's almost like a Maverick attitude at the club. Like the people that uh lone easy go, well, I'm gonna go back to my parent club, so who gives a shit? Is there an element of that? Because um the young the youngster from uh Man City um Mukasa. Yeah, Mukasa Um is flattered to uh I think he's flattered to deceive, if that whatever the saying is. He's not really uh done much since uh he scored that great goal um a couple of weeks ago, forget against who. But uh against QPR, I thought it was a bit dithery. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:37

He's gonna have good and bad games, I suppose. Of course he's young, but um but yes.

SPEAKER_01 14:40

I get that, but what are we doing? Again, we're in we're in a fight for survival now, we're scrapping. Um there's another problem by getting in lone-nees to get you out of the shit because ultimately they're gonna they're not gonna are they gonna put their body on the line when push comes to show thinking, well, I don't really want to get injured for this club because it's you know i I'm only on loan. Whereas if you're anchored to the club, if you're a permanent player for that club, yeah, and you're gonna be saying, I don't want to be playing in League One next season, I might get even more of a um a wage deduction. So you see what I'm calling? So there's there's an element of um well R L A. Yes, might be wrong, but that's yeah, that's the impression I got with the uh It's an interesting thought.

SPEAKER_02 15:25

I mean, I think it could be both ways, of course. It can be that a lone player really wants to impress to get a transfer to us because we're seen as a still seen as a relatively um well, certainly in recent last 10-15 years, a relatively successful club, aren't we? Relatively big. But I mean the decline's been staggering, even by our standards. It's been staggering. Uh and I'd I'd argue at this moment in time we're probably in the worst position in our whole history. Yeah. I agree. I mean that.

SPEAKER_01 15:53

No, no, I agree entirely. And it's and it's it's just not just the it's the embarrassment, let's be honest, it's a bit of an embarrassment for us right now. It's to have achieved what they did in the Premier League, which was fantastic, but that was ten years ago.

SPEAKER_02 16:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:07

And yes, we won the FA Cup. That was five years ago now. Yeah. And that that season then, in the few remember, in the Premier League, then we've got to be. They were definitely in decline, wasn't it, at that point? And nobody arrested it back then.

SPEAKER_02 16:21

So again, it's Rogers should have gone for me, and again, we're we're touching on old ground here. Rogers should have gone the following season as defending FA Cup winners, yeah, got put out of the uh the cup by a team at the time who were division below us. I know they're now division above us, but that's again another painful reminder of the current status. But they we we should have he should have been sacked on the spot and not allowed to get back on the team bus after that defeat.

SPEAKER_01 16:46

Me. Um but again, that's again this uh I'm going about the Mavvik attitude in in this this this club at the moment. If you remember after that match, there was the infamous party.

SPEAKER_02 16:59

Yeah, there was, yeah, with Hams of the Drink Driver, um Danny Ward, yeah, all sort of laughing it up uh at disgraceful, shouldn't show your faces in the round the area again with that sort of attitude. Uh I mean everyone's got a private life, everyone's you know allowed to shrug things off and smile at the end of you know at the end of the day, they've got families to go home to. I get all that, but to have a party and to celebrate But it's not the first time.

SPEAKER_01 17:22

If you remember um it happened again, didn't it? If you remember it was when Steve Cooper was still at the club and they was out that they're having that party, and that one of them held a sign Come Back Marcesca or Oh we no, we love you Moreska.

SPEAKER_02 17:37

We love you Moreska and I think it was I might be wrong on this, but I'm sure it was Harry Winks that was seen near the sign or holding the sign or whatever. But I mean that says a lot as well, doesn't it? I get that's absolutely nice.

SPEAKER_01 17:48

It's a Mavic attitude at the club, and it's in the DNA of the club at that moment. And and this is what uh links into what I was saying. Um in this division, in this in championship, you've got to be a strong unit, you've got to have a togetherness, and you've got to because it's a it's a battle in this division, yeah. It's a real battle in this division. Everybody will agree it's more of a battle in some ways in the Premier League, because it's the games come thick and fast, there's more games, yeah. You've got horrible um evening games in unglamorous places, that's a fact, let's be honest. Yeah, well, it's not glamourised, shall I say? And you've you've got to you if you're not going to uh go to these games of that uh belief and that determination and that fighting as a unit, you're not gonna win anything, and that's what's happening, that's what's unfolded. The the players are all out for themselves by by and large. I mean, okay, JJ's been great, but again, is he gonna stay at the club? I mean, I don't I wouldn't blame him if he said, Yeah, I'm not staying this, it's it's a shower of shite at the minute. And it's a s it's a shame because I would love to see him at the club, but I think right now you think you know you have your is your head screwed on if you want to stay here. That's how it feels right now. I do hope that he does stay, regardless of what division in we're in.

SPEAKER_02 19:07

But yeah, but some some my argument to the whole thing is these players should be proud to be Leicester City players. Agreed. It shouldn't be that they're being paid £80,000 a week, for example, to sit on the bench or sit in London cafes sipping coffee. Yeah, I mean, um we're not gonna name them, we already have we know we're on about, we they shouldn't be bringing the dogs to the training ground. Yeah, there's lots of other things that's a leading example. Yeah. We have to harness these players properly without using the dogs. They need to be collet, don't they? Yeah. Um but I mean the you know, they're just there's the there's just no professionalism, there's no grit, there's no determination. Um for me, uh like I said, at the when we went down to League One the previous time thank you for my dog's uh contribution there. Um when we went down to League One last time, quite frankly, it was because the players weren't good enough. This time it's not. The players are good enough, they've just not shown it any passion, any desire, any grit attitude, like I said. For the last, you know, aside from the promotion season, and you could say you know lots of things about that anyway, but for the last what, three out the last four seasons, and there is a large group of the same players in those three out the last four seasons as well, by the way, who are constantly letting us down. Yep. Um they need to take a look at the ball.

SPEAKER_01 20:29

The bomb's been going on for a long time. Yeah. I'm going back to the Tielman's era, because I remember him he was on record saying that he didn't his last two years of his contract with Leicester, when he was just seeing it out, he admitted, didn't he, that he didn't give his all. I I don't I didn't see that interview, but I'm taking it from that's I can't remember where it was quoted up, but I remember him saying he was saying he didn't whether it was in the Mercury, it was a long time ago now, and he he almost admitted or inferred that you know I didn't give as much as I could have done. Um so the decline started back then. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:04

And uh But is that is that now, this is the question, is that a club issue? As in, do the players know behind the scene? Because obviously, you know, we commented on silly little things like the source station for a few weeks ago, didn't we? Yes, yeah. Okay, so but that for me is just one example of how the club's gone downhill in these recent seasons. So the club the players inside the club will know that more than we do, to a degree, albeit still earning their ridiculous wages. I say earning them, stealing and and you know but you know, trading standards should be on, really, shouldn't they? Yeah, because they're not footballers. Especially the goalkeeper.

SPEAKER_01 21:38

Um I think we need to in the podcast just start calling out players at the as they are performing. I'm sorry, but our goalkeeper has been woeful this season. Yeah, it's it's I know they're oh yeah, but you saved a penalty. So what? You should be saving a lot more than that. And we go back to Fevious Podcast when there was a guy for was it Ruben, the guy from October? He was actually a goalkeeper himself and he was sat directly behind.

SPEAKER_02 22:05

It wasn't him, it was another chap he spoke to.

SPEAKER_01 22:07

Yeah. Okay. So it was um but yeah, I'm trying to remember what it was. But yeah, going back, he was saying that the issue for him for this for Leicester City was the goalkeeper because he didn't have any command of the box, and he sat there, said your goalkeeper was quiet as a mouse.

SPEAKER_00 22:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:24

Um the only time he shouted out was when the ball is in the back of the net. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:30

But I think that goes for the whole team, doesn't it? So for me, I know I know what you're saying in a in a sense, I I used to used to still do love Jacob. I think there's ability there, but yeah, he's been massively underperforming this season. But I think that's the whole team, isn't it? So the whole team as well, when it goes to communication, nobody's fighting and screaming and shouting at each other, no one's grabbing each other by the scruff of the neck, must metaphorically other or otherwise, and you could argue for both right now. There should be a lot more determination in this team. There isn't. They're they're unlikable. They're literally the whole squad is unlikable. Apart from exceptions that are really unlikable.

SPEAKER_01 23:05

There's um the only character I really like who puts his all in um is JJ. Yeah, yeah, of course. And he's alone alone. Yeah, there's just literally where's a permanent I tell actually I'll tell you one player I gets a lot of flack, but um he works hard, I think, is uh Thomas.

SPEAKER_02 23:22

So Luke Thomas, the Sarsden Maldini, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:25

And he is a local and yes, sometimes he doesn't make the odd mistake, but uh I thought again, uh he's at least tries. Yeah, yeah, sometimes quite often you'll see a a winger skipping past him. Yeah, I'm not denying that, but at least he tries. And um yeah, and going forward he c he can be a threat as well. So I think we need to lay off him a little. He he is probably the better of a bad lot, I would say.

SPEAKER_02 23:52

Well, I think there's a there's a lot of problems with this team, isn't there? And and to blame it, to lay the blame on one individual, one or two individuals, I think is is yeah, is just farcical. Yes, we know Luke Thomas has got his downsides, but he's also got a lot of positives, and we know and they never mention it, and we again we always try to keep positive on this podcast.

SPEAKER_01 24:09

I know things it's very difficult to do that right now with Leicester. Yeah, but we don't know what the future's gonna bring. But it I'd going on to the future, we're gonna mention that, weren't we, about uh we will we will indeed.

SPEAKER_02 24:21

Yes. But one thing I'd just like to continue, just on the downward turn for a second, and I'll get this out out of me. It's it's like sometimes I've got a dog with a with an unusually sensitive stomach. So there is occasions where this dog that's just shook, um especially for the podcast a few minutes ago, on command. Not really. Um but there has been occasions where I've literally woken up and um it looks like the downstairs of of my house uh has been blitzkrieged uh in in doggy shit. Okay. Um and uh and and and that's pretty much the analogy of the players and the squad at the moment, isn't it? We we're waking up and we're realising we're a squad full of shit. Yeah, absolute shit. Alright, so so yes, whilst I love my dog uh fantastically and I love this football club fantastically, let's call it what it is. Yeah. It's shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:19

Alright.

SPEAKER_02 25:19

Right, move on, move on. Let's be positive now. Come on, we are be positive and bring out the jingles.

SPEAKER_01 25:23

Well, here's what I would say is very good. Um I would say is um there's lots of uh you know angst of fans and concern, quite right. However, my view is this many years ago, um there's probably lots of young fans now, probably won't remember, when we went into administration, yeah, I remember it very well because previous players from Emil Hesky, Karolinika came along and helped the club out of administration. Yeah, um, and that was a low the lowest point I'd ever recall because we'll go nowhere fast. We came out of administration, obviously the rest is history. But point being, we're all worried about now, we don't we the club is very the the hierarchy that control the club as it stands are very secretive with us. I think for regular fans are treaters apporn inly, yeah. They really don't, and I'll put it out to anybody uh anybody from the club is listening. You treat the fans abysmally, yeah, and the source station just stops it all up. You're more bothered about your corporate and you're forgetting that it's the fans. Yeah, it's so for fans. We've got to say this we will always be fans. Yeah. And if if we do go down to League One, I'll still be supporting the club. If they're in League Two, I'd still be supporting the club.

SPEAKER_02 26:40

Which I think at this point is more than nightfield. I genuinely do. I think we're on such a downward trajectory at the moment that I can see it as bombing out of League One next season and being League Two the season after. I genuinely, genuinely can. I'll call it out now.

SPEAKER_01 26:53

Yep, but even if they are, I'll still be 100% Fox. So will I. And nothing will ever change that, and I think that goes for all of the fans. Yeah. We can don't wrong, I felt like throwing the towel in after that 3-1. Yeah, admittedly, I turned the TV off. I was a few I was angry, I was despondent, I was so annoyed. And but it's not the club. The club are just being let down by a bunch of players brought in by a hapless board. And that's a fact.

SPEAKER_02 27:24

Well, it's from top to bottom, it's yeah, and literally top. No, yeah, literally. No, that wasn't a pun intended, that one, but from top to bottom of this club is being run appallingly. Yeah. Um, you know, from recruitment to everything, every facet, the source station, bloody, you know.

SPEAKER_01 27:40

That's an embarrassment, an utter embarrassment. A fan zone, let's be honest, a fan zone right next to the um I'm supposed that it's got electrocuted right next to the national grid. It looks abysmal, it looks third rate, it really is. It's just it's it's it's poor, it's appalling, it really is. Like you lot, go over there, and that's yeah riff raff, yeah over there. Yeah. We'll get we'll extract more money out of you over there. Yeah, yeah. And that that's how you live how the club is a real eminent at the moment.

SPEAKER_02 28:09

Yeah, it isn't.

SPEAKER_01 28:10

But again, we're keeping positive, things will change. They will, things will get better at some point. When that is, we don't know, but it will, but we'll always be forever fans. We'll carry on going regardless.

SPEAKER_02 28:21

Bit like my underpants, occasionally there will be change. Right, um so things we'd like to introduce. Uh I mean, obviously the normal uh segments with this pod. Um but going forward, I've jotted down a few things. Um one of the first things I jotted down, doesn't have to be the first thing we talk about, of course, was the uh next protest, um, so um which is obviously back the team, not the regime. Um is is penciled in for the home game against Preston North End on the 3rd of April. Uh obviously more details will be uh released on that as and when.

SPEAKER_01 28:54

But um I think encouraged as many people as possible to support it.

SPEAKER_02 28:59

Uh in fact, whilst you talk for a second, I will have a look and see whether I'm actually available to go to that protest.

SPEAKER_01 29:05

Let's have a guess. I'm gonna I'm gonna bother a bet on it. I bet I'm gonna I'm gonna bet that I'll be working as per bloody normal, but um let's have a let's but yeah, I think it's important for as many people now to get together for these strength in numbers, yeah. Right with your feet, and let's get down there.

SPEAKER_02 29:22

Yes, indeed. Um which is uh yeah, it's interesting to say the least. I I I mean I think num numbers wise again uh it uh I've heard various um guesstimates between a hundred and two hundred. But who it's not about the numbers, it's about that that that feeling, that growing feeling from disenchanted, disillusioned fans like us, um needs to grow. The protests need to grow and and in a again, I'll say it again, a lawful way. Let's let's keep things above board, let's not be um let ourselves down on that. But it needs to grow louder, um and more regular. Um loud and proud. Loud and proud, yeah, absolutely. So fair play to the ones who have done it for the last couple of couple of uh home Saturday games, but it needs to be it needs to grow, definitely needs to grow. So we'll push that.

SPEAKER_01 30:09

Uh there's also um oh you've got a a little bit of an interesting thing about some Austrian player, yes, now you want to talk about I do, I do, uh Foxrot, I really do. So there's probably others but heard this story. Yes, there's a young uh player that signed for an Austrian club, and when I heard his name, I thought well he could fit right in with our squad. He got to ten other players in the team that calls called the same thing. Yes. Um his name is uh goes by the name of Jake Jacob Wanker.

SPEAKER_02 30:49

Ah well that's that's an Austrian name, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 30:54

It is um now the other f the first name of our players are useless in front of uh but same surname straight yeah but yeah I thought uh we'll keep an eye on him because I bet I bet he could uh he could do it, he could slot right into the team, couldn't he? Yeah. I'm sure he'll come good.

SPEAKER_02 31:15

Other than that, it'll come to a sticky end, wouldn't it? Um but anyway.

SPEAKER_01 31:19

But yeah, it does make me chuckle and I'm sure as coming in the Austrian um League, I'm sure you'll fit right well in it in England. I'm sure absolutely will be shouting his name, I'm sure of it. No, no, we wouldn't do that, would we? None of us. Come on, you anker.

SPEAKER_02 31:36

Um anyway, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:38

I'm sure we all shout that at Leicester anyway. So uh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:41

Interestingly, did you see the the the the clip that's doing a bit of the bit of the rounds at the moment on um as the Leicester City players were clapping, if you like, to what was left of the handful of fans that were left in the stadium. All three of them. Yeah, all three of them against against QPR. And there was one fan particularly irate with Jordan Ayu, wasn't there? Did you see that clip? No, not it's quite humorous. That's all I'll say. I'll leave it out. You'll have to show me that later then in the box, right? I'm sure I'll enjoy that. Perhaps telling Jordan Ayou to go away with some choice language. He's not wrong. Let's be honest. I know we no, we should all get behind the team. Um however, don't think quite bloding them off after ambling around, walking around a pitch for uh for however long Jordan Ayou was let on the pitch for. Um I don't think that's you know uh it's understandable the people are voicing the concerns about that, let's say. But you know, we must all get behind the team, of course.

SPEAKER_01 32:38

And that but the only thing is, when I've gone down, the fans are loud and they cheer the team on when they when they're coming out. And I don't want to give too much credit to the club at the moment, and but you know, they'll do their bit, like you have the the flames coming out and the light shows and all that.

SPEAKER_02 32:56

It's definitely not coming out the players' asses, is it?

SPEAKER_01 32:59

But point being, you know, okay. Get those get them wound up for you, get you know, you'd be I'd be I'd be I think it'd be fantastic to walk out to a stadium of people chanting and spurring you on, yeah, or the um the videos and the flames or whatever. Yeah. Just wow. Yeah, you you you should but as a player should really be delivering and that that it's not well, but we're gonna we're going over old ground, but we are, but uh but it's interesting you say that, but I agree with you. It's it's just you know it's so it's not the fans, the fans are doing their part, uh the players aren't.

SPEAKER_02 33:38

Aga again, you I heard a little bit of a a silly, silly thing. This is again from obviously a um a KPFC uh struggledite, for want of a better way of putting. The you know, one of these brain-dead, brainwashed um fans, um and everyone's entitled to their own opinion, by the way, so it's not not an issue. But the ones that defend the club through thick and thing, it's not sorry, how can you defend the people who are the custodians of our club at the moment aren't good enough? You cannot defend the indefensible. And you know, we've said many times before, it's not a personal thing. It's facts we love what the family's done for us in the past, but however, it's time for King Power to go. King Power, get out of our club now. You are useless, you've had your time, sell up, go right anyway, let's move on. Er, the next thing I've jotted down is oh, a little bit of a um little bit of a errors, I don't know, humorous thing, I guess. Um would you raise here's a dilemma for you. Would you rather in the Premier League this season, because uh certain teams down near the bottom this year, let's say there's there's a there's a number of teams who could go down. So I think it looks like um obviously Wolves are pretty much gone all bar a miracle, Burnley I'd say, are pretty much gone all bar of miracle, which leaves one space left in reality, and that's between it seems to be between West Ham who are currently in the bottom three, um some no marks from up the road and playing red, can't remember the name, but they're uh uh whatever, whoever they're called, I don't know, don't care either. Um there's them or there's Spurs, um is there another tip? Oh yeah, Leeds. Who out of Leeds, Spurs, red no mark team, or West Ham would you rather go down?

SPEAKER_01 35:24

It's a bit like Sophie's choice, isn't it, Hurley? Um but again for me it would be uh Favest out of all of them.

SPEAKER_02 35:32

Would it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:33

I I I and I've got to say is it runs very close to Spurs because that would be one to see the so-called big six blooded nose. Oh, absolutely. You couldn't get a bigger one than that.

SPEAKER_02 35:44

Well that's I think um I think it's interesting you say that because again I was uh talking to you before the pod, wasn't it, about uh a mutual friend of ours who um also a Leicester fan who said he would actually rather see buds go down. Um now I I disagree with him on that. I'd like you, I'd rather see um the Red No Mark team go down. That's personal uh for me. Uh being a Loughborough born and bred lad, uh I can't stand him with a passion. And and lots of my friends were Red No Mark team fans growing up because they were winning European Cups when I was growing up, sadly. That's how long ago I was growing up. But non the nonetheless, I'd I'd love to say that to see them get in the shit and go through a worse financial position than we are at the moment because no one would deserve it anymore.

SPEAKER_01 36:28

But that's me. Um and the way to look at it is and this is why I always remain positive about being a City fan. Yeah, okay, we are where we are at the minute, but if Forest went down, and they will inevitably go through that you the usual financial wilderness like we are at the moment. Here's the thing we're uh down at the bottom right now, but we'll always have that Premier League title in the bag, yeah. We'll have that FA Cup in the bag, we'll have those gl amazing nights in Europe, yeah. Some of the great players we produced, or that era when we didn't actually sign decent players and we saw it unfold in front of us. Um can Forrest say any of that? Yeah, no, I don't know. They certainly can't, certainly not over this last so yeah, so I'll look at that positive and um bring it on to see what happens. But yeah, uh for now I I'll always um say nothing will change how I feel about the club regardless and get annoyed about this current crop. Yeah, but yeah, as a club, and uh and um I'm as I'm proud of the fans, you know. We um you go down when I go down there, it's a friendly club regardless. Yeah, and we'll it's almost if we go there expectant of what we're seeing at the moment. I think we all go along there, let's see another loss. Yeah, it's we'll encourage the players, we'll get behind the players, but we all know what's going to happen. But yeah, that will change. That will change.

SPEAKER_02 37:54

Yeah, it's a it's interesting, isn't it? Um so again, all I'll say is uh listeners out there. And all joking aside, I don't want to see any team go bust by the way, but all joking aside. However But you do. But in Forest's case, yeah, I make exceptions to the rule. Um no, in all honesty, you know, email is in, uh again, socials, etcetera. Would you rather see go down? Yeah, premises. And I I comfortably say it would be Forrest for most fans.

SPEAKER_01 38:21

I think we need to get a real good prize for the person that guesses right. Yeah, absolutely. And we'll draw it out of the hat. It's probably several people who get guess it, but we'll draw it out of the hat. Yes, indeed. Yes, that'll be interesting. We'll come out.

SPEAKER_02 38:34

Let's know on that one. Um, yeah, so onwards onwards and upwards, what's the next thing you wanted to talk about? Oscar, is there anything on your agenda next?

SPEAKER_01 38:42

Well, no, I think I've mentioned um uh the wanker that's been signed, and uh there's about twenty-five of them in our squad, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 38:52

Exactly, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:53

Um yeah, anyway. But you're interested in see who had a hand in signing them.

SPEAKER_02 39:01

Um I can I can think of a few people at our club who have had had on hands on wankers in recent years. But anyway, um we digress. We do. Let's let's move on swiftly on. Let's move on then. What have you got jotted down? So j uh jotted down, I'd got a little bit of a uh um well actually shout-out segment. Shout-out segment. So I hadn't actually jotted that down, but that's clearly every week. Yeah. Have you got any shout-outs yourself, Oscar, before I ramble on about mine?

SPEAKER_01 39:26

Yes, little shout out to John Woodkin! Yeah, that's my shout-out. There you go, done and done. Yeah, just name and no names, but Ron Judkin.

SPEAKER_02 39:37

Ron Judkin, bye, King Power Group, bye, get investment or bye. That's it, right. Okay, next. In all honesty, you normally shout out Six Hills Swim Club, don't you?

SPEAKER_01 39:50

We do, yeah. And again, it because it links into mental health, and I think we all need to support our mental health being a Leicester City fan this season and the last season and the season before that. Maybe not the season before that, but the season before that. Yeah, but yeah, yeah. Um the weather's getting good now. There's some there's more brighter days. There are and I'll just say I didn't, but if you just go there just for coffee, not necessarily swip, just go down there, lovely cafe there. Yeah, amazing bunch of people. Everybody that goes down there goes there for the same. More people go down for to support the mental health than just absolutely it's massive, yeah, massive, isn't it? Really, really good way. Um bit low and you want to do something different with the good weather coming, if you need to get out and do something professionally new to you, yeah. I'd definitely urge to go down there on Facebook have a look at look them up and absolutely and hopefully it'll all go swimmingly well, won't it, if you go there.

SPEAKER_02 40:39

Yeah, it does. You keep your head above water. Yeah, certainly keep keep a breaststroke of what's going on. Sort of thing. So um brilliant, brilliant shout out, fantastic. Uh the usual ones for me, um I'll do Thomas Svaughne first, TV detailing, uh, Leicestershire and surrounding areas. That's mobile vehicle valetin supremo. Thomas. I actually bumped into him. Um he was he was doing a valetin job not too far from where I live to the day, so I was able to catch up with Tom for a minute or two. He's doing well, bless him. Um so he valets cars, vans, lorries, horse boxes. Um he's an experienced vehicle valetin service supremo upholstery cleaning, child seat cleaning, uh or cleansing and sanitizing. Uh he's available on 07714-235-324, and as I joke, every week, he does not clean the horses or the children, just the horse boxes and the child seats. Okay, so that's uh and uh once again Tom uh he gives a portion of his um income if you like straight to charity. Again, I'll let you uh find out what that charity is and why and the reasons for, because it's personal to Tom, to be fair to him. Bless him. Brilliant guy though, fan fantastic, fantastic human being, full stop. Um and he's had his uh battles as well, but again, I'll let you or him even tell you about them if he chooses to when you uh book him. But he's an amazing chap who really is an easy. Uh next one, uh, and last but not least, again, is uh Frank. Um Java Jane coffee, uh coffee on the move, but please don't spill it. Uh cozy character-filled mobile coffee van, Leicester, Knots, Derbyshire, and events. Uh she spends a lot of time up New Lount Nature Reserve because she's North West Leicestershire based as a coffee van, and she does it part-time on top of a normal um working day, so to speak. So um again, have a look at her website. So um so weather permitting normally, but she'll put out events and stuff that she's going to, weather permitting. It's www.jarvajanecoffee.co.uk and still is an offer. The uh what we said last couple of weeks is if you go up to um Java Jane Coffee, if you see her uh up at New Lount Nature Reserve or wherever she is at that particular point, and say, Hey up, Frank, that's from Fox Oscar Podcast. You will get yourself a free cup of coffee if it's the first time she's heard that one in that particular day. Alright, um so give that one a go, it's a bit of fun. Obviously, her name's not Frank. Um it's Jeff. It's Jeff, yeah. How'd you know it was Jeff? Anyway, but anyway, yeah. Um yeah, it's you know, she's a lovely lady, really, really is. Um again, super duper. So go and give her a shout. Go and try a coffee and see what you think. So that's lovely, so that's a shout out. So the next next one would be, and this links into really what we were talking about again, pre pod. Um so the next one or the next thing I want to talk about is our mental health segment. Uh, which I think I'm gonna link in more directly to the football at the moment. Now, we're all mature adults, well, okay, apart from me. But we're all adults. We're all adults, yeah. Not um but the You know, i i in a serious or semi serious way, the football can actually affect your mental health, can't it? Of course it can, of course. I know I've been telling you just lately, even on I do work a lot of weekends and I genuinely do, it's not an excuse, but I uh there's about two-thirds of games I can't go to automatically anyway. But a couple of ones recently, and I've just I've not had it in me. They did it's knocked the stuffing out of me that much, I've got to say, and I've been going for since Jock Wallace era, so roughly about 47 years now I've been going to the football for, so it's a long time.

SPEAKER_01 44:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:30

Uh 1979-80 season was the first season I went to a game, and so for me personally it's a big thing to go, actually I can get to this game, but I don't fancy it. It really is big. I've not there's I can f I can remember two or three occasions in the past where I've felt similar, just just the odd bit of a season, perhaps things I'm going to well either personally or at the football club. And and yeah, I've just not felt it, and at the moment I just don't feel it. So even when I get a chance, I'm not going to games. Yeah. Because quite frankly, I don't want my mental health to be any worse than it is at the moment, and it is bad. Yeah. But that's my personal story. But you know, how about your thoughts on that, Oscar?

SPEAKER_01 45:06

Yeah, I um pretty much um like a carbon copy of those feelings right now. Um because this one is ultimately you go, what do you go to football for? Is that a bit of to me it's a bit of escapism, isn't it? A bit of escapism, is that camaraderie? Yeah, you're all in it together. There's 30,000 in the stadium, and that uh it's so joyous when the team's doing well, yeah, and everybody's you turn around and everybody's got happy faces. Yeah, it's a real buzz, isn't it? It's a it's a buzz, it it keeps you going, you can have the the banter side of things.

SPEAKER_02 45:36

The laugh with your mates that you're going with, or whoever it is that you go to the games with.

SPEAKER_01 45:39

And if you can't get to the game, you you watch on TV, you just want to see some good football. Absolutely. Yeah. And um it used to happen, used to happen, it's happened a lot with let's be honest, and positives, it's happened a lot with Leicester. We've seen great football over the years. At the moment, it's turgid and just awful. Yeah, it is. And yeah if you're watching on TV, just know it's gonna be dull. Uh yeah, it's very there's nothing to shout out about. No. And it but and I'll give you an example, a prime example of what you were saying on Saturday. Um I put the um put the game on, half time, uh, come up to half time. They drew um I was at a swing as soon as they scored, Les scored, and JD scored. That's it. I'm a little energetic. You know, there was some good moments by the rest of the team. Yeah, I thought, well, yeah, we're gonna get a resort here, this is going well. And I felt energized, or I was I had the phone on looking at the results as well. Yeah, this is great. We're doing gonna do okay. The w the sun was getting better. Okay, they scored at half time. I thought, well, you know, I still think we can get something from this. I remember texting you saying we can I think we're still we can still get something out of this game. Absolutely, and that's what I say, you go out and you come back and the two on down, and my mood just dropped massively. I think yeah, oh you start yeah, and it and it that's how it affects you, it really does affect you massively. It does. And um we spoke post match, didn't we? And it was like oh message used to yeah, and it even affects you wanting to do the podcast because we are yeah, the podcast obviously is Leicester based, but we're talking lesser city based, but we talk about mental health like we're doing now. Yeah, but it it erodes your um determination to anything else, thinking, oh come oh, what's the point?

SPEAKER_02 47:27

Well, when you when you consider that this podcast is yeah, as you say, alright, you know, the mental health for me is as important as the football, I'll be honest. But let but then putting it in percentage-wise, it's three quarters of a podcast about uh Leicester City Football Club, and perhaps a quarter about the mental health, albeit we want that to grow in time, don't we? But you know, for me at the moment, it's the other way around, probably. I'd like this podcast to be three quarters about mental health and only a quarter about football. That's how much it's affecting me. That's how much it's really annoying me. Yeah. Uh and it, you know, a grown-ass man at the end of the day, yes, there's more important things than football. Yeah, I get that. It is a it is a light-hearted joke most of the time.

SPEAKER_01 48:03

But when it's your escapism, it's your it's almost in one way it's like having a drug almost, isn't it? It's just a it's it is like a drug. Legal one, folks. Of course, a legal one. No, in terms of you know, yeah, like a drug, say for example, a prescription drug, yeah, to make you feel better, to keep you going. You just have that little thing, that there's also something to make you feel that feel a little bit better about mice.

SPEAKER_02 48:24

Absolutely, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:24

And there's local pride and all that as well. And it's just oh they just i they just don't they I don't think the players this bunch of players realise how important they are to the community.

SPEAKER_02 48:35

No, absolutely. You know, and if you get people who um let's take it one step further, we're we're down in the dumps, we're a little bit annoyed, we're frustrated, we're we feel despondent, but you get somebody who does a job, uh I'm not gonna bring my own into this one, but does a job that they don't get much joy out of, they get a lot of perhaps uh negative emotions at work just because of the type of work they're dealing with, let's say, or just because they're in the dead end job, whatever it is that that person's circumstances are, and then their releases go into the football and they get none from that either. Yeah, perhaps you know, you only need one or two things to be going on at home as well with your family. I don't mean that rudely, but you know, in a in a horrible nice way, and then all of a sudden you've got two or three facets of your life that are absolutely not working, you know, they bring in uh despair rather than joy, and so you can easily see where this thing snowballs and manifests itself from being a minor minor irritant that we're losing every week to really quite a major thing when you add it all to the rest of the stresses of life, anyway.

SPEAKER_01 49:37

Absolutely, and this is well, this has been my argument with uh Top, all the people that protect Top. Now, my view is this yeah, he's a billionaire's son, yeah, he was born into money, yeah. He's never had to do the graft, he's never had to do night shifts. Let's be honest, let's chance. Has he ever had to do night shifts? Has he had to graft away doing a job he absolutely hates for pittance? No, no, and we've all been there, we've all done jobs we don't want to do, absolutely hate it, but you do it, you put you grin and bear it. Yeah. But our escapism, yeah, for the majority of us and all his Leicester fans, our escapism, our joy in life, is to go down uh to Philbook Way and watch Leicester City. Yeah. And it's now controlled by a billionaire, despite what they say about King Power, they've got their own personal finance well tucked away. They can he's still got his pursuits.

SPEAKER_00 50:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:31

He can he gets his uh kick out alive from uh horses or polo, whatever. Fine, that's fair enough. You get I don't I don't care what mints he likes, but at the end of the day, you know it's yeah, three boars for me, but you know Well I feel like Leicester City's got a hole in it because we're going down.

SPEAKER_02 50:50

Yeah, it's it's definitely got a hole in the defence, isn't it? You could call it the polo defence, couldn't you?

SPEAKER_01 50:54

But yeah, um that's what we've got Leicester City, the club of the hole. Um but he gets his he he still gets his little kicks in life from uh pursuing those activists. We've got pay enough if you want to do them, that's fine. But just remember you've got a responsibility because the 30 odd thousand people, week in, week out, yeah, um, get through life by going down to a club that you're running. Yeah. And look how you're running it right now. Yeah, yeah. Have you got the ability to run it? Well, the past five years says no.

SPEAKER_02 51:23

I know.

SPEAKER_01 51:24

It's your father, God bless his soul, amazing character, done wonderful things. We'll never ever forget him or the family, yeah, the wide family. Absolutely. But top as an individual, you failed us. You have failed us miserably.

SPEAKER_02 51:39

Not just failed us, it's yeah he's failed us, he's tarnished the reputation, if you like. Now, you know, i I I'd still say at the end of the season, if he kind of, you know, ad admitted some of his failings and perhaps either got the investment I've been talking about for ages or sold us on. Um I think people would still wish him well and be warm and all the rest of it. And quite rightly so.

SPEAKER_01 52:05

We're not we're not nasty fans. We uh if he sold tomorrow, nobody would think anything less of him.

SPEAKER_02 52:10

No, not at all.

SPEAKER_01 52:11

Um don't think that's possible, is it? But I don't think anything I don't think anybody will feel anything less on him. If anything, they'd say, Well done, you've done the right thing there.

SPEAKER_02 52:20

Exactly. And it's not personal anyway, is it? Ultimately, we're um we're we're the fans of the or the lifeblood of this club. We're just um and and so obviously all we want is the best for the club. Yeah. You know, and at the end of the day, at the moment, King Power and Top and this side of things aren't producing the best for the club.

SPEAKER_01 52:38

No, and they're not likely to.

SPEAKER_02 52:39

Uh and it's been going downhill for quite some time. And as experts have said, Vichy was was a one-off businessman who was fantastic. Top, God bless him at the same time, isn't it isn't his dad, is he? Oh yeah. So look, ship up, sh uh well, shape up, should I say, even, or ship out, because at the end of the day it's not good enough.

SPEAKER_01 52:59

Yeah, and greed.

SPEAKER_02 53:00

Um so right, okay. So that's you know, it's it's been bothering me for a while now. Um it's been it's been on the tip of my tongue to have a right old rant. I don't want this to become we don't want this as a podcast.

SPEAKER_01 53:12

We're not a rant we're not a video rant uh podcast, we are tongue in cheek, and yeah, we'll keep it that way, but some things need to be said. They do and uh and you we should say it.

SPEAKER_02 53:22

And I and I think you know, you go you go to you extend this a little bit further and you go, um Union FS so the Union FS boys who who try the damnedest, boys and girls, who try the damnedest to create an atmosphere atmosphere at games. Obviously, this season's even been really it's been really hard for everyone, hasn't it? But I believe some of the stories from inside and outside, um the club and um that particular group, the club, whilst don't get me wrong, have done some some good things for for the group there, but they've also been a little bit negative towards the group as well, and they've stopped them from doing some sort of things as well in the past. So I think it has to work both ways a little bit, um, and and let's be honest, the whole thing needs improving, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_01 54:05

Yeah, and it's it needs rebuilding, basically. It does it needs rebuilding, and yeah, that rebuild, for me personally thinking, uh can it come from a new owner, yeah, with new impetus, somebody who wants okay, uh you want a new owner to come along and say, Okay, I'm gonna drag this club back to where it belongs, in my view, which is the Premier League. And let's repeat that fairy tale. You might think let's be honest, the Premier League right now is boring. Yeah, I'm not saying that because we're not in there, but I watched a lot of the Premier League games and it's dull. It is somebody's playing uh you've got Man City who will carry on playing Pep's way. You've got the lights of Burnley, you'll try and do it like Pep's uh version from Timu. They'll try and do that possession football but fail miserably.

SPEAKER_00 54:51

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 54:52

And the previous and the pudding.

SPEAKER_00 54:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:54

But it's boring, the football is turgid. Even Pep's football now this season is you watch it, you go, Well, not you're gonna do it, there's nothing exciting. No, there isn't. And then all the other teams to try and do the oh like a carbon copy of him for a lesser. It's years ago, I remember going back years ago in Chelsea before they started winning stuff regularly. Before then, they're they're quite the entertainers, weren't they? They used to Gus Poyer in that era, if you remember. Yeah, they'd score good. They would win five four or five nil one mat uh one week and lose two nil the other, then five-nil again and yeah, they're very inconsistent, but it doesn't matter, they were entertainers, and nobody really bothered because it was entertaining football. You would go there, well, we don't know what game we're gonna get, but at least it was entertaining.

SPEAKER_02 55:38

And that's the thing, isn't it? Again, you want to go to a game, don't you, to be entertained. Yeah, whether whether that uh you know, and I've I've been to games, not in you know I'm sure you like you've just alluded to there, watch whether it's watching on the telly or whether it's going to games, I've been to games before because I'm a football fan uh at heart, yes, a Leicester City fan, but a football fan. So I will go even even on holiday. I've been to an Exeter City game before whilst I was on holiday down that region. Um who else have I seen? I've seen a Norwich City game, uh, not with Leicester, just because I was in the area at the time. I I will go and see I've seen a heart of Midlothian game in Scotland because I was in the area at the time. Yeah. I will just go and see football games, and you just want a bit of entertainment, don't you?

SPEAKER_01 56:18

You you just want uh but I think the Premier League, and I think a lot of people would agree right now, the Premier League, it's not entertaining right now, it's it's a bit of a dull. It's turgid, isn't it? Turgy's in and it is a story. Yeah. Listen, let's say to me, were the best, like the last best story for the Premier League. Since then it was all right, back to the usual, the big guard, the old back to the old guard, let's have the big six doing their stuff. Yeah, Lexwood City were pulled apart, and we all know.

SPEAKER_02 56:46

Yeah, greedy six, greedy six.

SPEAKER_01 56:48

Let's uh let's look after the greedy six because you know So my hope, and I always this is me remain positive. Yeah, I just hope that one day we get the right owner or come back along and have a mark two Leicester City. Let's go back up there, and why not?

SPEAKER_02 57:03

Well, as I said last week on the pod, for me uh you have to endure times like this to make the uh the upturn and the good times feel even better. Yeah. Um so let's look at it that way.

SPEAKER_01 57:13

And if we end up in League One, we end up in I don't want it, don't we go wrong? I don't think it's the way, but if we are, we as fans will be there 100% behind whoever the new team is, and it will be a new team, so there's a positive right there. Yeah. Um we need a massive clear out, and uh we'll go from there. But I think the crucial thing is um getting the right manager, and it's not oh I think the right owner, right manager. And going back to when King Power first took over years ago when it was Reach Eye. Um at the time we were all we're all a bit when he approached Nigel Pearson. Do you remember we all thought, oh is that it? Is that who you are as owners? But wow, what an inspirational choice that was, really, because he knew what he was doing, it's yeah, uh nice and safe, yeah. Let's get him in. He's the man to rebuild the squad. And to his credit, Pearson, look at what he'd done. Look at the look at the squad he assembled.

SPEAKER_02 58:10

Absolutely, and it you know, like we've long said, uh, it does need similar character now. Is Gary Rowat that character? I'm not so sure, and that's nothing against Gary Rowat, but he's he's definitely more of an old-fashioned manager, which is good. But is he the kind of Pearson or um who else can I use as an example? Um yeah, just one of them type managers who sort us out and grab us by the scruff of the neck, kind of managers, you know, and just start again right from top to bottom of the club needs sorting out, doesn't it? Um yeah, I don't know. And it's uh I think there's lots of hierarchy problems that need sorting out first, etc, etc. Um, but yeah, going back to it because we've kind of diluted the mental health segment this week a little bit. Going back to that, look out for each other out there, because whether you whether you're crying in your beer about Leicester City or or whoever else you support, you know, um remain positive. Remain positive, speak to a mate, speak to a family member, speak to a counsellor if you need to, go through your GP, whoever it is, but look, you know, um life is better with you in it, please. Always remember that. And life was just about to read out, so uh gonna shout out Livtiv Aparel again, um Suicide Awareness Hoodies, which is the ones with the dear person behind um behind me, the world is a better place with you in it. Love from the person in front of you, that's obviously on the on the rear of the hoodies, and on the front of the hoodies is you are enough on the front. Uh that's a really simple message, but I think so so important, and I can't get behind that enough. As I've said, as we've said, we're gonna look into her doing her own versions at that at some point, not the same idea, obviously. We're not uh nicking anyone else's idea, but just to be positive uh and just be kind to each other out there and to um to one and all, really. Yeah, including forest fans. There I've said it. I'll even be nice to forest fans, yeah. For for yeah, whilst the cameras watching me, yeah. Um but but no, all joking aside, you know, at the end of the day we're all human beings, let's look out for each other.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:09

Exactly. I mean, and it's you put hostilities aside, don't you? It's like uh on the pitch, it's a battle, and you uh uh but afterwards, yeah, there's nothing wrong. I've done it myself. You um well, prime example of the Oxford game afterwards, we walked back with the Oxford fans.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:25

Yeah, we did. We had a good chat with them. We fair play, you know, like we said at the time, at the end of the day, they deserve to win that day. We were we were dog shit, but they deserved to win that day. So fair play to not a problem, not an issue. And I'd like wise with any set of fight. The end of the day, I my feelings are as simple as this on it. If we go down to League One this year, it's because we deserve to.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:43

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:44

And you can take take nothing else, you know, away from yeah, okay, you can argue about the six points that might even be more by then, or it might be less by then, who knows? Or might be the same once the appeal's gone in and all the rest of it. But yeah, we still deserve to go down if we finish in the bottom.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:59

And if we'd go down well bottom three, it's it's not so much the royal we, is it? Because the club, the the hierarchy at the club, and the players deserve to go down, they deserve the the stigma of being relegated. Yeah. The fans don't because the fans have been there through thick and thin and have supported them massively this season. The the fact the fact that fans have turned up to um a club that's just been relegated from the Premier League, they've still turned up in in numbers and tried to support them and they're rewarded with Dross.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:30

Well, it's still, you know, mention this again, and I've mentioned it in quite a few pods before. Yes, the tend the physical attendance of people turning up this season's gone down, but we've still got 23,000 season ticket holders. Yeah. So our average this season will still be around 25,000, 26, 27,000. On a on really quite frankly, the poorest season we've had in the club's history. Yeah, uh, it's still remarkable for me. So, you know, knock the fans all you want, but I I think the fact that um we've sold so many tickets for most games is still a testament to how good the fans are are actually, and you know, we'll get back there, that's all I can say. We'll be back and we'll be positive once again in some points in the future.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:08

And like I say, worst case scenario if you go down to League One, it's more chips to the seaside. So I look at the positives.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:16

Yeah, there'll be some interesting grounds, won't we? We could be playing because um I believe it's Bromley, isn't it? Top of division two at the moment. We could be you know, if they get promoted, clearly, we could be playing Bromley next season, which with all due respect to Bromley, but that'll be some culture shock for us, won't it? It will.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:30

Yeah, um, but anyway, it's it's it's culture shock for them seeing the source station. The gaffer taped piece of cardboard and the extensions.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:39

We might not have a source station next season. There might be due to cutbacks. We might need your own source. Yeah, I mean bring your own source. Which to be honest is not a bad thing with this club right now. We we don't need to bring the sauce, do we? Let's be honest. Quite frankly, even the sauce is turgid. Yeah. Just like the food offerings.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:55

Yeah. Right. No, we'll leave it at that, then. We'll leave it at that. Anything else from you, Mosca before we go into it. Nothing else to say other than um it's keep positive to the uh the fat lady sings.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:08

So yeah. Oh well, you know, I think she's definitely warming up her uh her lowings. Her warblings at the moment, isn't she? So um yes, anyway, um bless her, that fat lady. Right, okay, it's uh goodbye from him. And it's goodbye from him as well. Cheerio. Love you.