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This week foxtrot and Oscar discuss Daka and Ayew and their lack of prowess in front of goal and have a quick review of the Watford match.

With the international break upon us, LCFC news has been rather restricted.... but given the season we've had, that's probably a positive !!!

As always, we remain positive and our support for LCFC will always be strong!  (cough!) 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:03

Good afternoon and welcome to Foxtrot Oscar Podcast. I'm Foxtrot. I'm uh Oscar. And uh Gibb will bring you the usual load of nonsense and and hopefully sort of brighten your day rather than just talking about the footy. Absolutely. What we've got so erm, I don't know, just take us back this last week or so, uh Oscar. What's that's up that's worth mentioning on the old Poderoone?

SPEAKER_01 0:29

My life was really interesting. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's now in the news for football, and it's I don't know. It it's coming. And obviously club football, well, the top dude wins uh would have gone hiatus. Yeah. I hate it. Yeah. It is a I mean international football, yeah, for just for friendliers. I know they tried to sort of rejig it and give it this league status thing, but it made not one drop of distant uh of difference for me. It's just the same old interesting, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 1:09

Yeah, I don't know. It's not it's not I mean I I I used to be so excited about our list I don't know what our listeners think out there, but I used to be so excited when it came up to World Cup year. I've got no interest whatsoever this year.

SPEAKER_01 1:21

I really haven't no, but it's um also this year with it being held in uh good old US of A, nothing against America, but with what's happening politically, we don't talk politics and all, but yeah, is that gonna have an impact on the uh uh the World Cup?

SPEAKER_00 1:38

We'll wait and see, yeah, wait and see.

SPEAKER_01 1:41

Um can people afford to go everything skyrocketing in price at the minute. Um it will go down, we all hope it does anyway, but absolutely definitely need to just look plans because people that were sort of shall I shine to go? Well now I'll be thinking I definitely ain't going, but it'll be too expensive, plus you know, I'm not really in support of what they're doing, so people be thinking that, but uh yeah, yeah. But anyway, that's a good point. But talking of football, just trying to sit over trying to scour sort of scavenging for hope, some interesting stories in relation to God old Lesser City, our beloved football club. And um there isn't a great break, other than um indeed, yes. So it's one story.

SPEAKER_00 2:26

Um yeah, it's it's it's it is an interesting one. I've heard lots of negative comments about the fee we've solved for, but we've been trying to do a bit of digging. Obviously, it's not exact, we don't know the exact facts, but rough ballpark to me seems like I think we've about broken even or maybe made a tiny profit off it. And I and I say that just generally because I think we signed him for about 21-ish million, didn't we? And he would have either been on a four or five year contract, not sure, but that would have amised around about, let's say if it was a five year contract, four million a year, roughly, or obviously a four-year contract, or five million a year. But either way, he would have gone down what we needed to get for him the following year, wouldn't it? Which we had the first season with him. He's now been on loan at Stuckgot, so they would have paid a loan fee for this season, which would have covered this season's amateur amortization, roughly, I'm guessing. Might not be an exact figure, but certainly a a chunk of it. So I'm thinking if we've solved a reported round about 15 million, isn't it? I think it works out to be. I think yeah, we we'll we'll be breaking even or just making a small profit, but it it won't be a lot for for a promising player, ever. And get a get a sulky person off the off the books who don't want to be here in championship level, let alone low bomb. Exactly. That's probably a good idea, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 3:42

Oh, this is it, and um you could have the most skillful player in the world if they're not gonna want to be performing because they want to go on a swear, and we've had that a lot in the past, yeah. We've seen it at other clubs, but one player of note that springs to mind who otherwise can stay at an airport waiting for them for the um to me in our era, in our lifetime, I'd say, the most skillful player I've ever seen in a CC shirt, Riyadh Marez, he in undeniable quality, yeah, superb player, yeah. Um, person, that's a different matter because we all had stories about him, but we were doing quite well in that that season, weren't we, as well. I think Puehl was all the manager, yeah. Yeah, if memory serves. But they went on a strop, didn't he? Because he wanted that move, and then I know that being it serves you no good to have the one of the best A player who doesn't want to play for you, yeah, it's self-defeated, isn't it? It is, yeah. So and then I'm just glad that he you know he is he is going because can you imagine the scenario if we do get relegated into League One and we've got a salty player who no doubt not even entertain playing at all in League One, yeah, having to dig that out of probably restricted to trying to get players of League One status to the club because we'll have no finance move at all. So for me, if that's the case everything's to be as reported, uh believed to be as reported, yeah. Um I would say good things really and yeah, I say that in the net as possible. Well we don't we don't always like as a person, do we no, no, and we wish him well where um but no you didn't want to um You don't want to sulky chops up for you. Didn't want to play flavor, so goodbye. Yeah, so yeah I think overall it's um pretty good I think it's a positive and we were looking for positives and that's one positive story this week. Definitely, definitely, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 5:48

Right, um okay, that's that's definitely what um we say. The thing I wanted to mention, obviously, we'll just go over it very quickly because the football itself uh there's only been one game since the last pod, and that was Watford, Leicester City nil. Yeah, real sparkling game. Um 21st of March 2026. Uh team was Marchik, Ruppy, Coley, Lascelles, Luke Thomas, um Fatawoo, Skip, Hinks, JJ, Mavadidi, and Postman Pat Packer, although definitely his satnav was off key. Uh and the parcels went to the wrong address. This uh he missed a penalty, absolute city, uh header near the end. Um yeah, didn't have a round, good game, I don't think, by the sounds of it. Not that I saw much of it myself.

SPEAKER_01 6:41

Did you see much of the game? Um and it was one of those games where I plucked up the cruck to see it when I could, but he had other things I was doing at the time in the garden. Yeah, and that just shows where we're at with that. I would sooner go and do some weed and then uh oh it's half time's gone, let's go back in, and it's like uh it's just yeah, yeah, yeah. There's nothing to grab you, but uh positive want to be. Um to me it was one of those games where I was thinking I'm not gonna be bothered this scene, but look out for the result and expect the worst, but hope for the best for the in terms of the result. Yeah, indeed. Um in terms of the result, all nil best uh result, but certainly not the worst either, considering considering it was away.

SPEAKER_00 7:28

Well, it it's interesting now, that's four, is it four away draws? So Rowett seems to have made us more solid. Um I say solid generally, uh certainly in away games, it's the home form that's a bit patchy to say the taste. Um but yeah, some of the stats and oh I'll start off by the subs by the way against Watford were Nelson for Las, Aribo for Skip, um Mukasa for JJ, IU for Kerr, um I mean always a pointless uh sub yeah BDPR for Math Mong uh and the ones not used were Monger, Hamzer, Richards, and Viennes 15 shots, five on target for Leicester City, six target for Watford, and we had 55% possession, and that left us in 22nd play, 11 wins, 12 draws, 16 defeats, minus 9 goal difference on 39 points with our current six-point deductive. Of course, it should be 45 points for sat on, but it's not, it's 39. Anyway, um, yeah, that's where with that stats and figures wise, and and like you say, most people who went to the game slash watched the game over all we we we shaded the game to the stats prove that really should have ruined it, but it's it's another game that slipped us by and we haven't.

SPEAKER_01 8:43

Yeah, which is the um the story of this season, really, isn't it? Not taking not taking chances, being sloppy at the back. But on this at least we weren't sloppy on the back. Yeah, yeah. It was a clean sheet and then this season that seems to be positive.

SPEAKER_00 8:59

Oh massively. And yeah, you know, obviously the the sad thing is I don't think we've got what six or seven games left now. If I think if we drew all of them nil-nil would still go down. So we've got to start winning games. Absolutely. Whilst ten, fifteen games ago I would have I would have grabbed nil-nil draws with both hands. Now they're what they're still welcome, they're pretty impressed in terms of the overall picture, aren't they? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:26

Um we've got to start Scott, and that means playing someone up front, Undy Are You, or Yeah, I mean they um for some professional footballers and they're just a porn, they're just no they are I think they pair them equally terrible signings.

SPEAKER_02 9:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:46

They'd be in awful shorts. Dacker had more promise, obviously. He was he was signed in a different era when you think we would would probably be doing a crestable wave, but things were doing a lot better for signed him.

SPEAKER_02 9:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:58

And uh but when we signed it was like a reality check when we signed him. This is the level we're at when I started signing the likes of him. But that said, they're both equally similar type of player in that they couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo. Yes, that's one way of putting it. It's just awful. And and it we're not talking about the personality, we're not we're not a we're not a nasty podcast at all. Uh you just couldn't look at it as a from a professional point of view, as professional footballers as their they're paid for goals. Yeah. And they're just not good enough. The only um I'd still always play Dacca over A U any day. Yes, yeah, because he at least he does something, I stretches the defence a bit or whatever, with his pace, but he moves out of uh centre circle as well, that's it. Before I think uh another vehicle would struggle to get RU in a box, it it's just useless.

SPEAKER_00 11:04

I don't think he's that good to be fair. But anyway, um we did have I did have an interesting conversation this morning as I went for uh an eleven and a half mile run round uh Bradgett Park as you do. Um and during uh running that uh conversation was most uh it was mentioned that they'd rather or somebody in that conversation mentioned they'd rather have Mavis the tea lady up front than you. And I I can't agree more, really. I'd rather have to be honest, I'd rather have a deck chair up than fucking just not you, excuse my French, but he's you he's absolutely useless. But anyway, they were.

SPEAKER_01 11:36

Well they've syphilis, but there you go. But anyway, yes.

SPEAKER_00 11:43

It's i uh honestly uh I I like to say, whenever anyone pulls on the blue shirt or the way colours, whatever it is, with Leicester City, we want to get behind him and want to encourage him and want to do the best. But I think it's got to the point now where Ayu gets booed on if he's a sub er and uh or if he starts a game and he's uh he's announced in the starting lineup, he gets booed even from the start, doesn't he? I mean I think don't get me wrong, whilst whilst onely speaking uh and a lot of other folks disagree with booing generally, I can kind of see people's point. People have just had enough of that half-hearted effort that's and it is actually this is it.

SPEAKER_01 12:24

You um you just get this way um majority of fans are making people doing all the jobs and majority and working hard in their respective living, didn't it? Yeah and Jordan are you, you see he's got one one up in life is to occasionally score, or more than occasionally score, at least look like it is gonna score.

SPEAKER_00 12:48

Yes, indeed.

SPEAKER_01 12:49

And none of that happens. No, no. He um very rarely goes not falls down more Humpty Dumpty. Yeah, I just it's just it's just uh I just I just felt to think it's uh why do we bother with her? Can't we just say just get him out of the squad? Uh to me, if it was me, I'd say you can get I mean we sold the wrong player, didn't we? Uh Tom Cannon. Yeah. That was always gonna bite us on the backside when because he scored against us that time.

SPEAKER_00 13:20

You know, uh Prem, you could have an argument, Tom Cannon wasn't quite good enough. There's nothing to say can't comp into a Prem player, but I'd say a championship or or low, he's a he's a he's an excellent, isn't he? Um but yeah, uh and and and just the fact the fact of the matter is what's are you got left now? Um I don't know, I'm guessing here three or four months left of his contract.

SPEAKER_01 13:42

Or the June, the or the ones are out of contract, it's then it's only around June time.

SPEAKER_00 13:47

It's gonna be about June, so that's about three months, isn't it? So for the sake of three months month contract, I'd just pay him up and let him leave, and let's let's let's put a bloody kid up front instead of absolutely, absolutely. And by kid I mean I I include a goat in that but you know, we'll just just try anyone because you know if he's not gonna score, you might as well try somebody else who can't score. Yeah, who's who's got a chance who might bring a bit of life to the role.

SPEAKER_01 14:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:11

I I don't see you know, I know he's got a languid style, um, and I know he's got you know, the perhaps some of it's been a bit harsh on him, and I've heard Matt Piper on Radium Ray before defend him because he does things more effort in the nose, and some of it may just be laid back style. I get that, I do get that, I understand that. But to me, he just isn't the mustard at all.

SPEAKER_01 14:32

No, no, he he really isn't. He's just um like I say, waste of time playing him. It is and Dacker, unfortunately, is now always I think we all I think the majority of Leicester fans always held out for the promise of yeah, and we all hoped because it came in a bit of unfair, because it came from the same club as Haaland, I believe. Yeah, that's right, yeah. And uh yeah. Over that in mind, we thought, well, if it's come from the same club, you know, he might uh be something. And it showed initial promise of record. It's called in Europe when he first came. Yeah, indeed. And um he does have that odd flash. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:12

Those flashes have turned into Well, it's it's you know getting fewer and far between. I mean, what was that interesting stat we read? Um I think it was uh to give the final whistle a bit of a shout, yeah. Yes, yeah. I think they put some stat up, didn't they, about um The goals Was it Matt Elliott scoring in the same amount of games that IU and Dacca have, say uh if you took a Chuck's career at Leicester, 140, 120 to 140 games roughly, it scored what was it, something like 20 goals. And most from centre back, bear in mind. Yes occasionally we threw him up forward, we know that. Um and guess what? I.U. and Dacca over that period and the same kind of level of games, the 120 to 140 games kind of mark, have of all have have scored have some that, haven't they? Or only about the same as that.

SPEAKER_01 16:01

When this we consider we're in the championship, they're struggling to score in the championship, be it was scoring in the Premier League here. And also the Premier League as well. Back then there was some quality players you were up against. So um yeah, absolutely. We can talk about the quality of the Premier League at uh another day, I suppose, but but um because I don't think the Premier League is is what it was in terms of uh some of the the world class. No. I know the style of change, but yeah, the product is not as good as it was. No. But point being, Matt Ellison is a score in an era where the quality was incredibly high.

SPEAKER_00 16:44

Well here's here's the on the uh the post at last um although it's not got for some reason I've screenshotted it and it's not got every bit of info on there. But two strikers at the club combined this season in the final whistle uh on I think it was on X, but but obviously I was uh the version I showed was on on the ground, but same, same. Um the metric such an 85-26 season statistical comparison. Jordan IU scored five goals in two thousand plus minutes played, uh 42 shots, one goal every 432 minutes. Um Patsen Daker's got three goals in one minute with 400 um minutes played, uh 36 shots, one goal every hundred and ninety-seven uh minutes. Uh and then the shot rate is is I use one shot every 51.5 minutes, and uh Patsen Dak is a shot every 41.4 minutes. So that's just a little bit of another to do with the um what we're talking about. It's not the one, I'll find that in a minute. But um yeah, it's just interesting, it's just clearly not good enough. And like we said, it's not about being personal with them individuals, but that said, the striking department at Leicester, which does include those individuals, is really just not good enough. Um and when I say just not good enough, this level below where we want to be. We're about to be two levels below where we want to be. I mean that's how how things have got. Uh uh I might remind everyone. If we do go down the seas, it will be only the second time in the whole history of the football club we've been in the third of English football.

SPEAKER_01 18:23

You know just bear in mind, we was gonna say the last time we got relegated into that into league one, that group is then weren't made up of ex-Premier League. No, they weren't. And I think we need to mention that. They weren't on Premier League wages either. No, they were made up of hasbeans, Barry Oh I forget his name now, but Barry Hales was it. Barry Hales.

SPEAKER_00 18:45

But there was there was a lot of what Ola what all I would say is average players, and I don't disrespectfully. But average average players, if you like, that were the Prem players, like you said, but just played their art out for the club but just weren't quite good enough. At the moment we've got a load of Premier League players that aren't playing well on massive wages, on massive wages, and it's not even putting the bloody effort in, quite frankly.

SPEAKER_01 19:09

Yeah, and that and I think that means to all of them. I think you've got the the whole squad, yeah, the whole squad needs to take um responsibility here.

SPEAKER_00 19:20

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 19:20

It's all right blaming top and blaming them management. You put on that top, you're being paid good money, yeah. We need to give you all now and to a degree, I'd even mention the youth, the academy, once you ensure uh our academy players, um they all they all they're a part of that uh that problem because are they really giving their all? Are they really showing that they want to pay for that shirt?

SPEAKER_00 19:48

Well, all I would say is at the moment, Rouett, and I'm not knocking him by saying this by the way, but Route seems to have gone down a particular um route, if you like, of um playing more experienced players, which I get to a degree, we're in a religion scrap. Yeah, but equally, rather than having some of the BDCRs and so on and so forth on the bench, and I use for definite, I'd rather see Louis Page and and the young stun can can offer something on the bit a bit more, you know, sort of run it around.

SPEAKER_01 20:17

It's a springboard for the future, isn't it? Because um we know, let's be honest, uh, BCDC's contracted a bit literally longer until next year as well. He's got another year, hasn't he? Um but are you why why why do we bother playing him? He doesn't score. I don't think his work rates there, and they might argue otherwise, but for fans that have gone regularly and seeing him is on him I can't see him putting much effort in really professional footballer. That's his only job in life. He's not gonna go and do some uh work every day Monday to Friday, right? His job's on uh mainly a Saturday afternoon or Tuesday evening or or Friday evening is just to put in far more performance than he is doing. Yeah, indeed. Even uh the dog's agreeing with us on that.

SPEAKER_00 21:05

Yeah, the dog was sometimes uh uh shaking his fur vigorously then um in agreement in agreement, in agreement, not not in disagreement, but in agreement with us. Uh bless him. Right, uh yeah, it it's one of them interesting things, isn't it? But I again we can talk all day about um Jordan I he's he's uh as I say, don't want to be too down, don't want to be too negative, far from it, but it it just appears to be like yeah, he just isn't putting it in, or if he is Well I just I wouldn't play, I just wouldn't play it like why there's no point. Why is it yeah, we've got two months left of his contract.

SPEAKER_01 21:41

My heart snakes even when I see him on the line up on the subs, let alone I mean uh I I feel like committing Harry Carey when you see him in the uh uh as as a starter, you think, Oh well, that's another loss, then and invariably it is. Yeah. And you just can't pinpoint him as a No, no. They've all taken responsibility. They've all take responsibility. Absolutely. But by heck, you're what his responsible responsibility is, is scoring goals. He's just not doing it.

SPEAKER_00 22:12

Or or at least not at least even if he doesn't contribute to that forward push, isn't it? Um so yeah, so yeah, okay, he's never been a goal scorer throughout his career.

SPEAKER_01 22:21

However, he has chipped in with assists and and been part of the team build-up and here's the thing, again, it's just show that what you just said shows the total mismanagement at the club at the minute.

SPEAKER_02 22:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:33

They knew Vardy was going. Yeah. They're they're keen to push Tom Cannon out the door anyway. Yeah. And who said we need a proven goal score. We need a proven goal scorer in the Premier League. Yeah. Let's get George and Ayu.

unknown 22:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:51

Meaning his whole record has never been a goal. And then going into this season, yeah. Oh, given the nine shirt. That was disgusting for me. I don't know. It was just that to me, considering the club we are, yeah. It's not the number nine shirt, should at the very least being retired because uh in respect to Jamie Roddy.

SPEAKER_00 23:14

And even if we're going to do something retired it for a couple of seasons till we've got a proper replacement. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 23:20

Not go and give it that's just it's just complete disrespect, that is. Well that really is.

SPEAKER_00 23:26

It's just it's just shocking, isn't it? But sorry, we again we're getting side sort of um It is. It is, but yeah, it is what's the the the the Jordan Ayou negative podcaster stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is.

SPEAKER_01 23:38

But anyway, uh square that off and uh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:41

So next uh next topic of thought. Anything what's next on the agenda for you, Oscar? Is there anything you'd like to bring up and raise at this moment in time?

SPEAKER_01 23:50

Yes, um Jordan Ayou, he's a terrible player, isn't he? Oh, hold on. Oh no, I don't know. What's the sound of me banging my head against the wall? Uh no, no, let's move on.

SPEAKER_00 24:00

No, Dakar, let's talk about Postman Pat Daker just needs his satnav re uh reprinting, doesn't he? Clearly sort of thrown a few parcels off to the wrong postcode recently, hasn't he? Again, um anyway, there we go. Um right, next on a serious note, even a semi-serious note, who knows. Do we do serious? We don't we don't try and do serious do we? Serious is a bit boring and a bit shit, isn't it? Let's be honest.

SPEAKER_01 24:27

Um yeah, so shout-outs. Uh I would love to give a shout out to um Are you? You would, but you'd missed on that one, wouldn't you? I did, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:40

Same with Daca, yeah, yeah. Shout out to him for being a uh shout out to Daca for putting the effort in. Yeah. You can't shout out Are you for putting the effort in? Uh Dacker, definitely. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:50

Um just uh let's move on then. We'll leave them to learn. No shout-outs really this week, other than then I I would give a shout out to our defence because we've got a nil-nil. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 25:05

Credit where it's due. Credit where it's due. Yes, it was probably the most dull and uninspiring Watford team we've ever faced. However, it was still good to get a nil-nil. Oh, you could be in that.

SPEAKER_01 25:14

We could one thing to remember as well. We're trying there they are in that position of trying to scrap to get into the players. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, absolutely. So it wasn't a dead rubber for that club either. No, not at all. Not at all. So the old joking side. So both sort of going for it for different reasons, as we know. No. No, I think uh we've got to take the positive, we've got to draw. Absolutely. Yeah. I was expecting a loss. In all honesty, I was thinking, well, what sort of a tricky one?

SPEAKER_00 25:39

What do you think of the well let's let's talk about the defence a bit more. What do you think about the Lascelles and a Coley partnership? Now, probably with Nelson's mistakes in the previous game, uh the old goal against Bulgaria and the and the uh the other mistake he made in the game. I think um probably right on current form to have dropped him rather than but ordinarily I think I'd rather see Lascelles alongside developing Nelson personally.

SPEAKER_01 26:05

100% agree because that's why you've been a player like that to a club like this, really, for that experience. And we've seen it in the past, haven't we, over the years where you it's like you're a person the uh the master, and uh yeah, probably an ideal scenario that's probably what the club had planned. So this experience probably can develop this one into that same time of play. Absolutely, but uh I'll I'll I'll still uh he's made a mistake, Ben Nelson, but like we said in the last last podcast, you want to sooner see mistakes in this division where we are now than say say for days and we are still in the championship and we're doing great guns for the top two positions to get into automatic position and he has a couple of nightmare games similar to what he just had, and we fall out the Pem the promotion base. I think I'd be more disappointed about that.

SPEAKER_00 27:00

Yeah, of course, but but also you know he's got to for him to just turned 22 the other day, so he's still young enough. Um but he has had that season on loan only last year. Yeah. Um and he's played a lot of games this year, eventually, he should have started way sooner in the in the season, if I'm honest, but that's another matter entirely. So he is gaining uh experience as we took as we go, but yeah, I I'm I'm sent with you on that. I think um he's the way forward, um you know, we've got to persevere with him, and of course he you'll make mistakes even on the job working.

SPEAKER_01 27:35

But you can see the quality of it, and also going back to the Watford game, he almost got the grabbed the the uh window for us into it and uh it was just unfortunate it was a good tether, but straight at the goalkeeper, but it was on target, and if your look was going no different that I would have been in, yeah, let's be honest. Yeah, it's just the club at the moment we don't really struggle to get any lucky breaks then, yeah. But you know, fairness to him, we were chasing the obviously trying to push for that winner, yeah. And he almost got it, you know, he got himself in that option. Yeah. Um to me, the the the quality is definitely there. Now I've I've said it before, one day you'll probably see him shirt. I think he's got that quality about him. And we said this years ago. Remember, I remember the two of us were the first game when we didn't went down together and watched Vardy, where he kept back in the championship, yeah, and he kept him going offside a lot, and you continue to have that pace about him. We said that that pace.

SPEAKER_02 28:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:32

And we both said at the time there's something about him. Yeah. You could even make an England player, and one of them people around us laughed at us, oh him. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:41

Well, yeah, the rest of his history into sort of things.

SPEAKER_01 28:44

Absolutely. And sometimes, you know, you can see you can see that flash. I'm no football and expert, neither is our just but we are experienced. Yeah, yeah. That's not to be taken.

SPEAKER_00 28:54

No, indeed, and it's you know, you can you know definitely see those um that that great potential with Nelson for sure. And and there's a few others, um, you know, Louis Page Monger, you know, Yada Yadda, so there is quite a there's there's um Jake Evans on loan at Northampton. There's this you know, there's loads of others I could mention, but the point is Yeah, well Alves, you know, it's there's loads of others. Let's see, you know, the the future could still look rosy.

SPEAKER_01 29:20

I think it is rosy, I think I sort of think regardless of how the club's been managed by the board or owners, um we'll always be around. Let's be yeah it's when they say too big to fail, that sounds arrogant, but look at the time we went into administration worse, it was a worse thing, but we've come out of that. Yeah. Um so there's um there's always a future, and I think the the crop we've got, and we know we've all had uh moans about the um Sea Grave, the uh because it's not really the created what they was hope they're hoping it would be create, but one thing it has done created all this, it's helped create a lot of this young talent that's coming through and uh Benton being one of them.

SPEAKER_00 30:06

Indeed, yeah. So you know hopefully that'll continue to bear fruit, although yeah, we can we can get on to the running costs and everything else another time, yeah. I'm sure. But um Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. So for for the youngsters coming through, hopefully it's the right sort of environment for them to kick on and for us to attract uh loads of young players going forward that that will develop. Um but yeah, it uh one of the interesting things we put out in last week's pod um was the who would you rather go down out of those four clubs at the bottom? Is it's kind of between Leeds Forest, I think it's called something like this Tottenham Hotspur, who came third in the two-horse race, and who's the other one? West Ham. Yeah. So um you know obviously I've already nailed me colouring mast. I'd rather see Forest go down. Um I think you were the same. So did you say now, interestingly enough, some of the answers we've got back have been but mixed really some forest, some have said Spurs, some have said they'd genuinely see rather see Spurs go down. Sounds interesting.

SPEAKER_01 31:13

And they've given a good reason for that as well, haven't they? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:15

Yeah, and that and that's to do with the greedy six and the um you know, which Spurs allegedly are one of the greedy six, albeit um you know, one of the breakaway Uwey and clubs about to get relegated. Um interesting, isn't it? Their new shiny Super League thoughts and prayers, they they wouldn't be able to get relegated, would they? Because they'd just get the glory and the glitz all the time, wouldn't they? Um so yeah, I can I can see it and I can see that argument and and fair play. Whoever stays up, I'm sure, will deserve to stay up, whoever goes down, will deserve to go down. It's as simple as that. Same as us, articles, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:48

We if we'll have deserved to go down, aren't I? It's like I I kind of root West Ham in this situation, but also I have got a soft spot for West Ham in a way, because they're they're that London club that uh aren't part of your Chelsea's or your Arsenal stuff like no you're united. Yeah, and their fans are gentions, aren't they? They're not glory, but you can't accuse them of being glory hunters.

SPEAKER_00 32:11

And also, let's be honest, they're as big as as those other clubs because they haven't got the glitz and glam, have they? They're a proper uh old uh East End club, aren't they?

SPEAKER_01 32:18

And no, I I do like West Ham, I've got uh I have a spot for them. Yeah, and I'm rooting for them just just to stay up because it's they were that club again, like we used to in the past, give that bloody odd blooded nose. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:30

So um I'll I'll interestingly enough, uh well talking again, skewing s slightly, but um the um Tyneware Derby um this weekend just gone and obviously I've got a bit of an old mucker shout out to where's out there, a Sundland fan who's from Seam, uh just below Sunderland. Um obviously Sundland did the double of a Newcastle, the um they won came back from 1-0 down to to to win 2-1. Um and there was did you see some of the tasty uh stuff between the fans before and after the game? I don't know if you've seen any social media.

SPEAKER_01 33:04

No, but uh I saw the Newcastle fans and their response, which is interesting, really. Uh how they feel the way the club's going. I think that all a majority of them are now being they want good riddance to their manager, which obviously from the outside looking in, I think it's a bad mistake. He's of course I think he's one of the best managers around. But I say on the other thought, you can understand it from their point of view, it's like they've not kicked on. Uh but I but then again the old PSR, the stupid PSR comes in because they're not allowed to spend, though they've got all that mega money back in as an oil state, yeah, they can't spend it because of restrictions. Yeah, it's interesting. But if you spend 47 million pounds on secret uh payments here, there and everywhere.

SPEAKER_00 33:58

There's agents and stuff. You can get off with a spended points to put them. But you know, if you and this is where I will have to stick up for the likes of Everton and us, er I we can breach the rules and we'll get points deductions, but uh if it's one of the greedy six, no no no, just give them a bit of a fine, that'll do, that'll do. That'll earn them. Yeah, yeah, that will earn, yeah, because of course, you know what the hell is pathetic, isn't it? I mean again, double standards. It is double standard.

SPEAKER_01 34:24

It's say it as what we see it as pure corruption. And define corruption, it's something it's it takes a corrupted mind, a warped mind, to say, okay, you've tried to hide these payments. 47 million. Oh, we'll let you off for the morning. Yeah, I have a fine. That would earn you. I find that that the way it's worked out, they're only enough to pay. So yeah, it's a forty that's but the whole suspended point seduction. So in case you do it again, well, you obviously they haven't got any more evidence.

SPEAKER_00 34:58

Let's do that then for Everton, Forest and Leicester, then. Yeah, why don't we spend their points in the world?

SPEAKER_01 35:01

Why don't we get suspended points deduction?

SPEAKER_00 35:04

It's it's corrupt, it pathetic, Premier League hanging your you know, hang your heads in shame. Absolute disgusting.

SPEAKER_01 35:11

It's like in the rush to get into Premier League at the moment. To be honest, it's I've been watching the Premier League a lot this season. It's the dullest it's ever been. You look at it, you know you look at look at winners or likely to be winners in Arsenal. You you play to your strengths, but they are not replaying. I don't I've not watched their games, but by all accounts it's all quite dower football often. You know, it's set pieces, set pieces of all that scored from several set pieces. Something that their manager years ago, Arson Wenger, used to moan about Leicester City years ago in the O'Neill era. Oh score from uh Peter Moan Moan. It's different now though, isn't it? Oh yeah, of course it is.

SPEAKER_00 35:55

Oh yeah, it's a narrative when you're a greedy six team, it doesn't count for them, does it?

SPEAKER_01 36:00

But point being, I think the Premier League has become just there's just no it's just it's not exciting to watch and watch a clamour to get back into it. Um as much as much crap this season's been for Leicester, it's freshing nonetheless to watch football where you've got more realistic fans, genuine fans, because they're not glory hunters, there's no um bias, there's no VARC the main thing of VAR. In many ways, a championship has uh Beth of Feshire being a shit for Beth of Fresh Air. Can you say that?

SPEAKER_00 36:36

I know you say we're not clamouring to get back to the Prem, but I think it's it's stretching it a little bit to uh clamour to get further away from it, isn't it? Oh, it is that, yeah, yeah. Um but yeah. It's just strange, isn't it? Very strange. Uh anyway, uh say just very quickly, the usual shout-outs. Uh you haven't got one this week, didn't you?

SPEAKER_01 36:56

No, there's nothing I can think of. I think of I've I've given my shout-outs to Jordan Are you, yeah. Yes, and his fan club. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:03

Which we're part of, obviously.

SPEAKER_01 37:05

And we're the we're the only two members.

SPEAKER_00 37:06

Yes. Um and we both want refunds as well. Um but it's a jar Java Jane coffee, coffee on the move, please don't spill it. Um it's a cozy character-filled uh mobile coffee van that covers Leicestershire, Knotts, Derby, and events.

SPEAKER_01 37:26

She must have a lot of coffee then to cover the whole left.

SPEAKER_00 37:29

I know, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:30

It must be a one big urn.

SPEAKER_00 37:32

Well, I think it's a leaky uh leaky urn as well, it's balls as it's going around. But um uh obviously joke inside. Um so good old Frank there at the uh she's normally at the new uh new Lampir Reserve on various dates. Uh so again, weather permitting, etc. Have a look on www.jarjanecoffee.co.uk and um to the best of my knowledge, and I need to uh to have another talk with Frank, make sure this is still the case, but I still think she's doing the first person who goes up to her on any of these events. If you go up and say, Hey up, Frank, that's from Foxtra Oscar Ocast, you will get that first cup of coffee. Um that is the first person who does it that day, by the way. Not everyone literally should be she might go, you know, she might go bankrupt if I think if she did it first.

SPEAKER_01 38:19

She might be running like King Power.

SPEAKER_00 38:21

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh within Source Station. Um anyway, yeah. The other one is so uh good old Frank. Um that's that's that one. And we've got Top Born, TV detailing, Leicestershire and surrounded areas, mobile uh vehicle valeting supremo, who uh does uh cleans and valets cars, vans, lorries, these horse boxes, experienced vehicle valet service supremo, upholstery cleaning, child seat cleansing and sanitizing, um available on 07714-23534. And once again, as the joke is a Greek, he doesn't clean the horses or the children, just the horse boxes and the child seats. Okay, so you know if you take your your kitty there covered in mud, no, it's a no. Uh if you take your horse there covered in mud, it's uh a no. But if you take your horse box with a load of children in it, um it'll it'll probably clean uh the the horse box and uh the child seats. Okay, alright, there we go. Um so that's it's on the shout-outs um for this week. Mental health wise, got anything for our segment on mental health this week, Oscar, anything you'd like to raise as a topic?

SPEAKER_01 39:40

Um I suppose one thing I want to mention this week really is um I I know it's we're talking about a uh a company, uh we're not uh that bothered, but it's not like a shackled to them, but Wix. Um DIY is out there. Um they're running a campaign at the moment and it's raising money for suicide awareness. And it's what that thing where you know you just have some donations at the till. Uh not give the odd 50 pence, whatever, whatever you can do, but uh well I'd say anybody who's doing a bit of DIY um and you're at Wix support them because it's just nice that a big um uh a big company that is helping a great cause. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 40:23

Well if you if you fancy a screw or two um yeah you can you can also go to Wix and get them.

SPEAKER_01 40:30

Um but or high fields.

SPEAKER_00 40:33

Oh yeah allegedly. Um but yeah, no, and on a serious note, that sounds a great uh a great thing to put towards, doesn't it, in furnace?

SPEAKER_01 40:40

Yeah, and again, because it's um I think uh when it comes to suicide and we we've mentioned this um the Pavonio, the hoodies that we've mentioned in the past. Um it's suicide, I think that's somebody something that's affected everybody at some point in life. Um I think um a lot of us have isn't somebody or no somebody it's it's happened to you know, even if like a friend of a friend or a man that's um that's been uh suffering as a result of somebody's suicide, it's it's just one of the things in it's such a sad thing suicide, because you know it's it's you always think it could it could have been avoided. Sometimes the way that how fragile the humanity sometimes that's not the case, but it always to me it's if there's a suicide it's like a missed opportunity.

SPEAKER_00 41:31

Oh absolutely, a hundred percent. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:35

So that's what I was mentioning, Wick, because it was just something that um that caught my eye and I think it's just something uh kudos to them for helping out. I'm not exactly sure what the um the money goes to. Um obviously it's I imagine it's counselling and the usual thing, but the fact that they're doing something about it, which is uh Yeah, everything's everything.

SPEAKER_00 41:56

Yeah, um yeah, definitely. Definitely. So I mean we've we've given shout-outs a lot of um local charities in the past on this, you know, LAMP Leicestershire Action Mental Health Project and so on as well. There's lots and lots of good charities out there, so don't get me wrong, um it'd be very difficult to mention them all. We'll try our best over the uh weeks, months and years, etc. Um yeah, again, just to to uh reiterate about the live uh to live apparel, which is the ones who do the anti-suicide sees. That's the hoodies that I've got on the back of them. Dear person behind me, the world is a better place with you in it, from the person in front, and then on the front says you are enough. Um very, very um relatively cheap. We don't get anything on this one um you know, obviously it's just a personal thing that's that's that's a really simple mess, and I think really important. So again, a bit of a shout out to them. So that's superb going forward. And uh and I say again, um been speaking to a person that's relatively close to me fairly recently who who had um their own thoughts of suicide fairly recently. So uh and I think that I'm good to good to say that that that good person is is a bit healthier is trying for the right help that he needs. And um you know, again I won't mention them for obvious reasons, um but another person I might add who has also had and I will say it's a him on this occasion, also has hid his uh own demons uh fairly recently and he's agreed to come on the pod um where we'll start doing more interviews going forward in the future. So that's a really, really good one, hopefully. Um I'll let him tell you because it's again it's a great fascinating one. Um but again that's it's just so again, it you know, if you uh all I can say is yet again um the email to eat in. You can either put on Plus sprout podcast messages, or you can do through uh social media messages, or you can go to the email that we've got, which is um F O R F O X E S S A K E at Outlook.com. So that's for forks's sake, outlook.com. That's a bit of a bit of a shout out there to um uh Mr Hawking and Mr. Bancroft out there if they're either of you to this pod. I know um certainly Adam Adam used to, or probably still does, from down in his in his now native uh southwest of the country. So he he will be used to that accent. And obviously Mr Hawking is already a native or was already from uh Cornwall region, not Devon Cornwall. Um again, he'll he'll know that he'll uh shout out to him as well because they both uh both Martin and Adam both work down there now again. So yeah, shout out to Pair of them. Um moving swiftly on, what's the next thing on the agenda? If any, is there anything we've got to look forward to other than I know there's an international break which is not to look forward to, that's to be despised. Um but is there uh I think the game after that is the Preston North End home game on something like the 2nd or 3rd of April, can't remember off the top of my head. Um and then after that is the Sheffield F Way game on the 6th of April, I believe it is. Let me just try and check those dates as we're on the pod now. And it's yes, so it's Friday the 3rd of April is the Leicester home game against Breston. Um which there will be a uh a march again from the um power out sort of uh boys and girls, so join that if you can. Um we'll again we'll we'll give that a shout out near the time. Hopefully we'll do another another pod before then. Uh and then obviously the game after that, as I say, is Monday the 6th of April is Sheffield Wednesday versus Leicester up at Hillsborough. And so that's actually you know the um the pod after or in a couple of weeks, the pod in a couple of weeks will include both of those kinds of cuts and stuff like that. So uh that's definitely to look forward to. Um anything else while we're at it, Oscar.

SPEAKER_01 46:23

Um so obviously I was mentioning in a minute um Wix, you know, talk talk to a couple of guys about uh what they do. Um so it is a um call it's calm that they uh currently helping uh campaign against living miserably. So is that is that to be for means or is it uh unless it's the fans. But no, on uh on a again it's something to uh it I think these numbers just need to be circulated quite a bit. It's uh so calm, just for anybody who's uh you know, you know not quite right or having those suicidal thoughts, and it does happen. Yeah, as we know. Um one of our listeners could be in conversation with a friend who's who might say I'm really struggling, then there's a number here worth jotting down. It's yeah. So 0800-585858. Um you can also find them on on the internet, they campaign against living miserably. And it's just for people feeling that in that might be a bit that immediate sort of concern, I'm I'm not feeling right, I need to speak to somebody. Yeah, well, the people are there. So this is again we we like to sign signpost people in the right direction. Oh, absolutely, yeah. Um but uh we're not here to plug uh individuals as uh as a general rule, we're just sort of if we see something that's worth mentioning, we will do, and I think this is worth mentioning. Um yeah, so yeah, campaign against living miserably. Um currently been sponsored by Wix or supported by Wix, which I think is great. It is, but yeah, if you um know of anybody that you think might need a bit of support, then uh give them that number.

SPEAKER_00 48:06

Absolutely that way definitely, yeah, definitely, definitely worth the shout out that one, uh, as are any of the many uh wonderful charities out there, but this one uh looks like a one to to try and and either pass a friends, family, or whoever or use it yourself if you need it yourself, obviously. Yeah, yeah, I think that's a superb one to probably start wrapping up this episode on.

SPEAKER_01 48:30

I think so. So to yeah, our listeners out there, yeah, as you always say, yeah, be good to one another. Don't be cruel, but be kind.

SPEAKER_00 48:37

Yeah, be kind, that's so every week, Nick. Just be kind to each other. You don't know what personal journeys people are going through, you don't know what um you know, as I say, might be affected uh affecting that person or have affected them. Fair two you meet in each person. So always be kind. There's there's there's normally a story behind everyone and their actions, even when they're having an off day. There can sometimes be a reason for that, not an excuse, but a reason. Even if the forest fans even dare I say I've got many look, we we joke on this point a lot, don't we? But I I'll have to say I've got many, many f uh friends, as you have indeed as well, Oscar, who who are the dreaded fans fans. But you know, in all honesty, they're just normal beings. Well, some of them they're just normal people and they they just that that that sentence is getting shorter.

SPEAKER_01 49:31

The people yeah, yeah. The misguarded fans never mind, yeah. Can't be helped.

SPEAKER_00 49:38

But supported the less of the two clubs, but you know this is why it's good to shout out counselling because you know obviously uh Forest fans are in dire need of counseling more than anyone, aren't they? Yeah, that's right, that's right. It's it's yeah, all joking aside, look, we're all human beings, we're all um we all get low sometimes, and you know, let's look after each other out there and be kind.

SPEAKER_01 49:58

Happily, absolutely, and nothing wrong with having as we always say humour is in mechanism with lots of people. There's nothing wrong with it, and it's um humour is always something to have and to be treasure.

SPEAKER_00 50:11

Yeah, you just out there uh you know, not at the expense of anyone other than Forest fans, therefore. Absolutely, I was gonna say I was gonna catch you on that one, but you you got in there. Oh, and this week uh Newcastle fans as well. Uh but there we go.

SPEAKER_01 50:24

Shout out to Sunderland, we're Macums.

SPEAKER_00 50:28

Anyway, yeah, um