Foxtrot Oscar Podcast
A football (Leicester City) podcast with a mental health section
Foxtrot Oscar Podcast
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Well we are getting to the business end of the season .... unfortunately the business for us fans will be looking up the league one table and working out the quickest way to get to Wigan......then trying to find a quicker way back !
Well the fat lady is definitely warming up ready for her final song to cement our place in division one.
In today's podcast we have a general chat about the ongoing saga which is Leicester City, plus a couple of callers who phoned in with their views.......... but, no matter what division we are in, we will always be faithful to Leicester city, just not maybe to the hierarchy than runs it.
A footnote to our listeners, you may be aware we had to take down our previous podcast due to technical issues.... we are still working on them even after trying turning things off and on again!
We will be doing a complete refresh , all will be revealed soon . Thanks for now.
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Good afternoon and welcome to another episode of Foxtrop Oscar Podcast. I'm Foxtrop and I'm Oscar. And together we'll bring you the usual load of nonsense. It's been a couple of weeks. Well, it's been about three weeks, hasn't it? Because we uh the last episode we put out about two weeks ago had some folks, so we had to take it off air.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's very annoying.
SPEAKER_04Uh and the folks weren't just me and you, were they either?
SPEAKER_02No, no, we're usually the faulty pair, aren't we? But uh yeah, technical issues unfortunately, uh with new technology that we've invested in for our little podcast of hours. Indeed, indeed, yes. Yes. What a great investment it's been so far. Well, money well spent, obviously. Money well spent. Um mentioning no names, but um a company that's um known for fruit.
SPEAKER_04Yes, is it banana, cherry? Barnet, cherry, or no, uh errange. Close, yeah, they're sometimes green burn trees, but that comp that marrow.
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SPEAKER_04No, okay, sorry. Cucumber! No, no, no, it's a cool, wasn't it? That was a cool thing.
SPEAKER_02You see, do you have blackberries anymore?
SPEAKER_04I'm not entirely sure you're allowed to say call them blackberries anymore to be fair. Black currants? Red berries? Blackberries, is it um I don't know. No, no, no, no, we digress. Anyway, but welcome everybody. Welcome, yes. Um well what Hello, how's your how's your last three weeks been since we last actually got a podcast out that recorded well?
SPEAKER_02Yes, well, that was when there was that that smidgen of hope. Now it's hope based on Uz's fans hoping that something just might turn up good for Leicester Leicester City, of course. And er each time the flatter deceive. Now that that that strange old saying flatter flattered and the faulter to deceive, don't they? They're just er it just gets sadly worse and worse. We're trying to be positive as we are on our little podcast.
SPEAKER_04It'll be really positive, won't it? Recording podcasts from the likes of Bromley next season.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04No disrespect. I mean, uh fair play to Bromley, let's get that out of a start. The fact that they're going up the chain as we're coming down it.
SPEAKER_02And also Lincoln as well.
SPEAKER_04Oh Lincoln, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Wow.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, Lincoln. First time in the top two divisions for what is it, 60 odd years or something?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Just as we're going down to the third tier for only the second time in our whole history. But there we go. It is what it is.
SPEAKER_02It is, isn't it? But uh, yes, uh, let's pack on then with it with a bit more detail, what's been going on then. We will indeed where do we where do we start?
SPEAKER_04Well, I think let's just just so we can, I don't know, just get the get the turgidness out of the way. Let's go past the um or visit the past three, four games now. Um so and and the fast four games uh one of them was included in the last pod, but we had to delete the that one off the system, like I say. So what I will say is I'll take us right back to the um to the Watford away game where Pat's and Dacker had a mixed uh bag of fortunes, let's say. Uh it was a nil-nil draw, 21st of March 2026. Stillarchic in goal, Ricky Pia, Coley, LaSells, Luke Thomas, Fatwoo, Skip, Winx, JJ, Maveredidi, and Postman Pat Daker, who definitely didn't deliver on this occasion. Um, subs were Nelson for Las, Ribo for Skip, Mucasa for JJ, Ayu for Daka, BDCR for Mav, Monger, Hamza, Richards, and Vietz were the subs not used. 15 shots five on target to Watsford 6, 2 on target. We had 55% possession. That left us in 22nd place, 11 wins, 12 draws, 16 defeats, minus 9 goal difference and 39 points. Um the next game was Friday, the 3rd of April 2026. Leicester City 2, Preston North and 2. Now that was an interesting one because we were both at that game, weren't we, uh Oscar? Yes. Sadly. Yes. I'll go rattle into it then. So it's uh the teams that day, or the team that day was Stolarchik, Ricky P, Akoli, Lasells, Luke Thomas, Fatou Skip, Winx, Macasa, Mavididi, Daka, Subs, Nelson for Lasells, Vestagard for Mukasa, BDCR for Skip, Monga for Mavididi, IU for Daker, Haribo, Richards, Hamza and Begovich with the subs unused. 28 shots, 10 on target, to Preston's eight, three on target. We had 59% possession, left us in 22nd place, 11 wins, 13 draws, 16 defeats, minus 9 goal difference and 40 points. Obviously, it would have been 46, but for our points deduction, obviously. Um we were at the game. What were your thoughts on the game, uh Oscar?
SPEAKER_02Um to be honest, I I think one way to sum up, it was no different to what we've seen the rest of the season. There's been a smidgen of I would say uh a smidgen of improvement in terms of effort whilst under um our current manager. Yeah. I say current because he's he's not gonna be here next season. Let's be uh I think we're quite uh clear that's not gonna be the case. Um but yeah, it's just he has got them working a bit better, but then again, they're professionals, it's their job. I sound like Roy Keen there, it's their job. But yeah, just something again. I think what that game to me highlighted is just glaring, obviously, problems that we faced all season. You the midfield sometimes performs well, sometimes it doesn't, it's very hit and miss. But it's uh two boxes that matter, isn't it? In one box our own goalkeeper I think is appalling. I really do, I think his standard isn't isn't good enough. And up front a choice of Dakar and Ayu.
SPEAKER_04So where it counts That's like having a choice of I don't know, horse shit or camel shit, isn't it really?
SPEAKER_02I it isn't yeah, yeah. I think that's a good way of putting it. But um yeah, it's all to me, I think that game food to me that where the where it matters, the quality where it matters, and goalkeeper and a striker, if you haven't got um you need to get anywhere you need a decent in both of those areas, don't you? Let's be honest.
SPEAKER_04You do. I'll I'll have to say, from my point of view, um, because the previous two home games I'd attended, with my job taking me out of the game for three quarters of Saturdays, so I don't I only get this was only like the fifth game I've been to this season in fairness. But the Preston game for me, compared to the previous two, which were the Charlton and uh Oxford home games where we lost both of them and played appallingly. I actually thought we played really well against Preston, and when I say really well, in context of still shitting defence, yeah, still not really taking, you know, 28 shots, 10 on target. We should have scored what three or four at least, I would say. Um so to only get two goals is a down. But the up is Dacca took his two goals well.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Fair play to him, absolutely fair play to him. We had the majority of possession, looked the better team for most of the game, but Preston broke effectively two or three times and scored from two of them.
SPEAKER_02That's what I mean. And this is just and this, like I say, and I think it proves my point what I was saying. Yeah, um, yes, Dacca did take two goals well, but he should have taken a lot more, in fairness. Um if you um especially if the m uh the money the calibre you could say of the that uh the peers in that uh team, which all know they're they're all underperforming. Yes, but to have so many chances created and he scored two. Okay, it's not all on him, but and there's others I think but it's that lack of quality up consistency up front, and also the back as well, with the goalkeeper just switches off, it's like oh we've been attacked, oh let me just get the ball out that our network, yeah, and I I'll blame somebody else afterwards. And that's what I all I can see is just there's no accountability for me. No, nobody nobody's taking accountability of the whole setup.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's it's so I think some of our players are probably heart in the right place, uh huffing and puffing well if you like, but uh ultimately not playing as well as they could do, not gritting the teeth, not rolling the sleeves up, so to speak. Other of our players won't name names as much as it pains me, although I might later, I don't know. Um it's I I would say they're not even putting the effort in. And and I'd say I'd almost go as far as saying about half the squad. You know, about you know There we go.
SPEAKER_02The problem is you look at the squad or this team as I don't I don't call it a team this season. Well it either because you've got on the basis of you've got a lot of players at the club who aren't going to be there next season, just on the basis their contracts come into it, and thank God for the survivor. Yeah, yes, be honest, he's he's contract ends in June, like several others. So that's a good uh is there there's one good massive positive I'll have to interject to that point, Oscar.
SPEAKER_04Do you think and this is we'll have this argument again in a minute? So for me, the biggest pantomime villain that the club's ever seen, right? Pantomime villain is Dennis Wise. I think he was abysmal. Yeah, I think he was horrible, nudicy, odious little character. However, are you pushes him close for me? And I'd say pound for pound, so bearing in mind we didn't spend any money on on little runt Dennis Wise, he was he was just a free transfer, wasn't he? I think um AU for the fact that we spent money on him, um I think pound for pound, he's literally the worst player we've ever bought.
SPEAKER_02100%. I mean, um, and if you catch your mind back to several years now, and this is for the older viewers out or listen viewers, listeners even, um Adi Akinbay, or Adi Bad Bad Baye, if you recall, when he bought him for Moore, so just five million difference being, yeah. At least he worked. And also he was pretty lucky, he worked hard, yeah. And also he was trying to mix it in the Pemi League, and the Pemi League was a different beast back then as well, because he had some real quality back then. Yeah. Um so when you compare him to what we're seeing as one of our bad byes back then, I'm sorry, I think I'd out the touch sooner have Akambai out of Aye. That's say that's saying something that you'd sooner go back to and have Addie Akambai.
SPEAKER_04I'd sooner have added more Akambai now, and now he's about what, 40-50 years old than bloody are you. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And people say, Oh, but it's cool or whatever, but ultimately you're a professional footballer. This comes with the territory. I think this criticism comes with the territory. It does, especially when you're being paid so much.
SPEAKER_04Nobody nobody wishes, and let's get this straight from the start, is that nobody wishes when they when people put pull the blue like I've said in the previous, and you've said previously, nobody wishes when people pull the blue shirts, the pink shirts, or whatever of other insipid colour we've got this season, or blue and blue and green mixed, isn't it? Um shirts on, we we wish them all the best, no matter who I'll include I. With that, of course, any player, any player that's ever pulled on the shirt of Leicester, as long as they're trying for Leicester, I'll wish them well, and but let's be honest, he's been a disaster, he's been an absolute disaster as a buy, as I 100% agree. Um right, I'm gonna move swiftly on because I'll get these turgid games out of the way. Um Monday, the 6th of April 2026, so Easter Monday, Sheffield Wednesday won, Leicester City won. Jordan, are you scored? Um Stalochic, Ricky P, Lascelles, Akoli, Luke Thomas, Fatou Skip, Winks, Mucassa, Mavididi, Dacker, Subs Are you for Mucassa, and then came on and scored a really good goal in fairness to him. Uh but offered virtually nothing else. Richards for Daker, Vestergaard for Lasells, Monga for Mav, and uh can't even read my own writing there. BDCR, I think it was for Skip. And I've not even written down the subs who didn't get on. I don't think I could be asked that day. I was that disappointed. 24 shots, 12 on target, two Sheffield Wednesday six, one on target, 69% possession. That left us in 22nd place, 11 wins, 14 draws, 16 defeats, minus 9 goal defence, 41 points. Um I'm not going to say anything about that game because to be quite honest, probably sums up why we're getting relegated this year. Um next one, Saturday, the 11th of April 2026, Leicester City 0, Swansea 1. Stalachik, Ricky P, Lascelles, Vestergaard, Luke Thomas, Fatou, Skip, Winx, Mukasa, Mavadidi, Dacca. Anyone notice any sort of similarities here? Subs, Hamza for Ricky P, Ayu for Mav, BDCR for Skip, JJ for Mukasa, Monga for Dacca, subs not used, Begovich, Suter, Aluko, and Joe Aribo. 19 shots, six on target, two, Swansea's eight, one on target, 56% possession, 23rd place, 11 wins, 14 draws, 17 defeats, minus 10 gold offence, still on 41 points. Everybody else around us won. Oxford won, Port Sportsmouth, last minute winner. I think West Brom drew the day before, didn't they? So but still they all got game points on us. Um we're we're down. All bar, not mathematically yet, but we're we're down.
SPEAKER_02We're no longer well, it's no longer in our hands now. No, it's not before it was, but that game against Swansea, again we think Swansea, it was a dead rubber for them, nothing to play for. They weren't vying for promotion or relegation, no, they were mid-table, nothing to play for at all. Yeah, and they just played better football. Again, we hoofed and puffed. Then it's rinse and repeat because it's the same lineup, so you're gonna get the same performance.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, not trying any different formation or we're not trying anything different, maybe different personnel.
SPEAKER_02Or you don't even play in person you you'd even consider maybe playing players out of position. For example, if you were a manager again, all these managers they'll all annoy me, could all do the same thing. It's like I can imagine at the end of the season, it'd be like Scooby-Doo and all the um the rest of his squad will come out and start peeling off uh uh the face of Gab Outlet, underneath it will be the fa the um head of Marty Siffientis, they'll pull it again, then it's a rude van der S. Back to Steve Cooper. I think it's Steve Cooper just with different face masks on, just like the Scooby-Doo style.
SPEAKER_04Well, he's he's the one allegedly who insisted on buying Premier League experience of IU and BDCR, um, for example. You can't blame it all on them, of course, but they're a huge part of why we are where we are. Yes. Um just a a startling start. I've just totled up here, and in fact, I've done a really bad job of totaling up because I'm having to recount as we go. But the last four games we've had, um let's have a look. 43, 60, 71, 81, 86 shots in the last four games, okay, and scored three goals. Okay, we've conceded in terms of shots against us 14, 20, 28 shots, and had two, three, four, four goals against us. So about rough what's that, roughly about a third of the amount of shots against us that than we've had against the opposition, and they've scored the same amount of goals as us, if not actually one more. We've scored three, they've scored four.
SPEAKER_02And again, it just says it all. And so where it matters, the quality where it matters, yeah, in both boxes, you need a good striker and you need a good goalkeeper. Yeah. Basics of football. I'm not a footballer, I've never managed a football team, but you don't have to when you're when you're fans like us, you can you know what's important.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And um it's just the lack of cohesive thought, it's just what's running through this club right now. It's just there's no planning, there's just no nothing at the moment. There's just it's just drifting, it's rudimentess. And it's and this is what happens, you know. You go back to the Pearce scenario. I remember when he first came along for for his second stint with his and the first player he went wished out to buy was Wes Morgan. I'll never forget that. Um lots of people saying we've got a load of but we've got a load of uh defenders already. And his view was I want the best defender for that league. And he wished out and got Wes Morgan. And then we s I think he's not long after he disposed of um we had a striker, the ex-lead striker, striker, it wasn't a big uh uh I thought it was quite good, but pushed him out of the c uh out of the door and uh but slowly and surely then got obviously the rest of his history, we did get but um point being he knew his first two uh moves really was a decent uh black line or a decent defender, and then obviously wanted but then wanted a decent goalkeeper and then wanted a decent striker. The midfield was done afterwards, more or less. And but the there was a processful. Um you can see the how the the tactics would have been developed. There was uh a plan. There's no plan in this club anymore. There's nothing. There's there's no planning. There's nothing. It's just and we're just left with a um it's like a woodless vessel full of uh sailors that aren't interested.
SPEAKER_04No, indeed. It's it's awful, isn't it? Um I I I don't know where you're at with it, Oscar, in terms of uh getting you banging your iron around. I've bent my mind around for the facts we're we're relegated now. All by the shouting, we're relegated. Oh 100%. And to be fair, I'm sort of at peace with that to a degree. I'm still angry, I'm still disappointed, I'm still upset, I'm still beside myself, I I can't I hated it when we lost the record of never being below the top two divisions in all of history until uh what about 17, 18 years ago, and then we dropped down for the first ever time. Now it looks like it's the second ever time. I don't think we'll bounce back this time. In fact, I'll make a prediction now, and this is not a great one for saying, but I just think it's the way the club's going rather than uh my belief in the in the in the long-term situation, let's say. But the the way the club's going at the moment, with the current hierarchy, as in King Power, I think will be relegated to League Two this time next season.
SPEAKER_02And I I think I'm inclined to agree with you. Um you know and because the last time we got relegated to to League One, it was under er Milan Mandovic, God bless him, um the late Milan Mandovic. But there was a plan, that's what I'm saying. Okay, it didn't go quite according to plan that season, but he still had the money, he still had the finances, and he invested. That's when um he got we got uh Pearson on board. You remember is when we were in League One, is when Pearson first joined us. Yeah. Uh because before that season got relegated, it was Ian Hollowhead. Yes. And again, and it was very s that season was very similar to this season, but the difference being is this that team that was assembled by Ian Hollowhead, there they weren't ex-Premier League players. No, could you play? There were it was just trial and error, it was very average, bang average sort of squad, wasn't it? But they they weren't very good, but they tried. Yeah, they did try, yeah, to be fair to them. This lot, however, you know, the uh majority of them, and I'll say a majority of them, yeah, they're being paid a hella lot of money. And they're not even trying. And they're not even trying. No. It's like and it's like they're not they've or that it's quite clear for them now, you can see the body language, um, that it's just what's best for them in terms of okay, I don't I'm not gonna put my body in the line, because I've got my next contract to think elsewhere, because it's not gonna be at this club.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02And that and that he you can you can see it from the the way they ho when it's when when we the opposition score a goal, you can see the body language. Years ago, I know I remember years ago, um Jerry Taggart, uh one particular game and he was playing. And Matty Jones, you remember him?
SPEAKER_03Absolutely, yeah.
SPEAKER_02He made him error, didn't need to a goal, but it made an error and they almost conceded. I think in Manchester United, if memory serves. All I remember is Jerry Taggart, or one or two others might remember this, literally grabbing Matty Jones by the scuff of their neck and lifting him and shaking him like a ragdoll. Yeah, I just say uh Wake up, son, wake up, making a mistake. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, with with Jerry Taggett, you had somebody there that cared. Yeah, yeah. He was there to uh stop goals. I'm gonna I'm a professional and I'm gonna make sure that doesn't happen.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And so when he saw somebody on his own side cocking up and making errors, it was his way of saying, yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_02For the crowd, we actually enjoyed it. It's like, well, yeah, one of those one or two, oh god, that's a bit over the top. But there was a player who was committed to the cause. Yeah. When's the last time with this in the past three or four seasons you've seen that happen?
SPEAKER_04Nice.
SPEAKER_02That commitment, that sort of desire, that uh that wearing your heart in your sleeve. It is it you don't see it now. It's like there's it's almost the attitude, well, you know, I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna be here next season.
SPEAKER_04And it it's what's there's the famous songs being sung round the terraces. Uh I've just heard a clip of it from the uh Swansea home game Sideways and Backwards everywhere we go. Um it yeah, never truer word sung in jest, to be fair. But um that it's just awful, isn't it? It's turgid, it's boring, there's no F being put in, there's no plan, there's no alternative to the current plan.
SPEAKER_02And it's it's the what annoys me, it's the rinse and repeat. It's like uh Gary Rowdit. I'll be glad when you've gone. And I mean that because you've come along, you're keeping saying all these things, but you're changing nothing. No, it's we're predictable. People are rolling up, other teams are rolling up, knowing how you're going to play because you don't change things around. Indeed. And people know the weaknesses. Mavi D is bang out of form, but you still play him. Yeah. Well the whole the whole yeah, the whole thing just needs needs a change, doesn't it? Yeah. Needs a change. The um Lucasso had he first come along. Okay, he had one good game, a couple of good games, and then he's he's been awful. Yes, but say he does this. So here's the thing we've got these youngsters that we're all gone about. The saving grace of this club is its academy players, and we've got some wonderful academy players at the moment, but I think their quality is being eroded because they're sat there watching these bunch of Muppets who are playing in the first team at the moment with who are half-assed, and they use a young men, these are young lads, they've been thinking, Oh, this is so this is how you do it. This is this is what professional football is all about, is it? By sitting here and oh, yeah, I'll do so. When I'm older, I'll be like Harry Winks. If I don't want to play, I'll just sit up and you know drink coffee and cafes while the while the team gets relegated. Yeah, that's what I mean it's that influence, and it's that's what concerns me. That influence, and you've got a manager that's come along, and it's almost supporting that ethos. Here's a manager coming and said, You've had your chance, do one. I'm going to put my faith in these youngsters because I'd sooner them giving the chance, yeah, or even if they thought, even if uh the powers that be at the very top thought, I think we're gonna get relegated, so just managers until then. Now, if I was that manager, I'd say fine, if I'm gonna if I'm thinking of League One, I'll my young players who are gonna be around next year or next season to get the experience now in a higher division.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So you should Lewis Page play him. Monger, play I don't want to see Monga coming as a sub. Play him, start him. Mavidi's had his chance. He's proven he's been woefully again a player that's just not putting in the hard yards.
SPEAKER_04And may well, maybe just maybe with Mav, for example, uh, and you know, he's just one player, like you say, maybe dropping him to at least the bench, if not out the squad altogether, might give him that kick up the back side. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02It's the same formation though, it's it's it's it's so predictable. It's gonna be saying four, two, three, one, and it's gonna say, and you think, why are we playing a lone striker? You've got to actually cross off, why are you playing line striker when these two strikers we have got up front together or up front by themselves in a good here's a thought we as much as we malign those two, how imagine having them if they were paired up together? Just a just just a thought, because I know yeah, then you you're sacrificing somebody in midfield, but it's a championship, we're not talking the Premier League.
SPEAKER_04I don't think this pair would score in League One, would they, in all fairness. No, but uh wouldn't score in Brothel, but yeah, I know what you mean by giving a better chance.
SPEAKER_02Maybe. You've got uh Luke Thomas, always um we've known the left back's always been an issue. Now I I've always protected um Luke Thomas because at least he tries and he's a young lad, finally supports the club, you know, and uh yeah, and uh at least he does try. His quality might not be always there, but here's the thing what I'm getting at. He does put in half decent cross, or sort of all Brighton-esque. You know, you can his day, why not if Manaveniz is so out of form, put him on the left midfield? Just like an all-brighton roll, just let's get those crosses in. It goes back to changing the formation, doesn't it? That's what I'm saying. No, change changing putting players in different positions, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_04Why not? We've got to change, we've got to try something. I mean, for me, and I said this 10-20 games ago, I'd have been going to a degree to hell with this season. Let's start blooding the youth.
SPEAKER_00No, you can't.
SPEAKER_04You can't play every single young player in every single game, of course not. It has to be a smattering of experience in there to help them along. But the fact that we've gone back to the same old guard and by and large have let us down to the same three of the last four seasons.
SPEAKER_02Same formation, same tactics, even if they do change the lineup, it's still saying we're gonna still still gonna play the same. Yeah, it's foolish, and all that famous um saying but from was it um Einstein about uh repeating repeating yourself or do it making the same I can't along with things and expecting the same different result, yeah. And that's and that's where we are. It's like so you're putting the same system out there, and clubs aren't daft, they'll be following it's almost like that's why we're so beatable and so poor, because people are saying they're growing up well we know what we know how they're gonna play.
SPEAKER_04Break away and get a goal, and you've you've won this game against this slot, they've got no spine, they've got no backbone. The bunch of lily-lived, overpaid you know, wannabes, aren't they? Um and clearly I I'd I well we'll we'll get on to that. We won't do it this week, but I think we'll go through the whole squad. And I tell you what, there won't be many I'd say keep. I I agree. Um but anyway, that's uh by the by. Enough of a enough of a ramp for for now. Yeah, but that just seems toil up, isn't it, sadly? We have had, haven't we? Let's try and bring a slightly better note to have uh some interesting voice notes sent to us uh this week. Yes, we have because. So I might just I'll see if we can get them uh loaded. Yes, we've got to.
SPEAKER_02So it's like a radio show, really, is it?
SPEAKER_04Indeed. Um let's try and play them.
SPEAKER_02Well, he um fair enough. Uh you can't argue with him, he's not wrong is he?
SPEAKER_04No, no. Yeah, yeah. Uh uh there's some interesting points there, and uh obviously um I'm glad he didn't swear 'cause I don't agree with swearing. Um but yes, maybe all the players can hook foff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So open it, but yeah, yeah. Where did you get him from? I don't know. I tried to think. But anyway, yeah. Um thank you, Bus Sprout, for passing that one on. Uh another one here. Um here we go.
SPEAKER_00I think we should be more like Real Madrid.
SPEAKER_04Yes, but we'll we'll play the other one later or in a second. But what do you think about that last caller? Um Well, he's uh play like Real Madrid. I think that comment sort of tickled me a little bit. I mean, um I think we've been trying that all season. Yeah. Perhaps not managing it, but we've been trying it all season.
SPEAKER_02Oh dear.
SPEAKER_04Anyway, um and one final call, um might have caught a glimpse of that uh a second ago, however.
SPEAKER_01Hello, everybody here from uh Winstanton. Um I'd just like to say uh although I'm not that impressed with the team or the results at the moment, GoFoxes, GoFoxes, I love you, King Power. Umwards, upwards. I love Tob.
unknownI love Top, all the all the world and more. Goodbye.
SPEAKER_04Well uh that's a happy clapper. We've got a happy clapper if I we'd like to have different viewpoints on this pod, and to be fair, that's definitely a different viewpoint. Not entirely sure I agree with that one.
SPEAKER_02No, no, she can uh I want her to meet the first caller.
SPEAKER_04Was that I'm not even entirely sure that was a female, was it? Is it a male or female? Was it a they then? Was it uh well let's not get anyone in trouble here, but I wasn't sure. Did did they say they then start with that? Whatever you call it. Someone from Winstanton, wherever the Winstanton. I don't know. Did we actually get anybody call from Leicester?
SPEAKER_02Uh not on this three calls that we had beer books. This is the legacy of that Premier League victory. We it's left his fans far and wide from the whole club.
SPEAKER_04Including Billerkey Winstanton, what was the first caller from? Was it Beasingstone? Beasonstone, wasn't it? Oh, chartered accountant, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah. Interesting. Interesting. Um anyway, uh yeah, you know, keep them coming, folks. Uh it's it's really good to have your view.
SPEAKER_02I agree with the first two. I think they're pretty spot on. The third one, the happy clapper. No, you can do one. I think we've had our view now. We have uh with King Power.
SPEAKER_04King Power, please sell up and go away now. Um I'll be honest, you just it's a disgrace now. Let's let's not um let's not pull the punch. Don't think we've ever been on the fence about it. However, just get gone now, sellers, get gone.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, try it's been we say that at the start of the season, we'll sort of give them a chance, yeah. Yeah, but wow, you know, what are you chancing? This is the future of the club you're on about now.
SPEAKER_04No, and I think for me, they're gonna hide behind this points deduction, they're gonna hide behind the uh PSR or whatever you want to rename the uh the rules. They're gonna hide behind that, and I can I can see it now, we're not gonna spend again in the summer, yeah. We're gonna sell again again uh with what um players we have got left of of any quality like Fatahu, etc. Um but yeah, uh I think we're gonna you know have a high turnover in players this summer, and I think unless we get some of the some quality coming back in or you know um have more of a nucleus of the um youth team sort of coming through. Um we're gonna struggle, aren't we? I think I can see us obviously going down again next year in league one, going down to league two.
SPEAKER_02Um but there we go. The only thing that could stave that away if they um get a an action straight away as soon as the season's over, right? Bye bye, um Gary Rowd. Okay, we can get this manager, he's the best in that division, yeah, and he's got contacts who knows one or two players for that division. I'm talking about League One, yeah. So um if they're half tears, right, we can get the very best for that division. Just and it's almost the same mantra as what Pearson said when he signed Wes Morgan, people went, we all thought a bit boring, a defender, yeah, it's horses for courses. So you go, okay, we're the best manager we can get in for that manager, and you and compare with well, which players are we gonna have at the club? Because a lot of these waves and streaves are going to hopefully Foxhot Ogger out of the club. Um so I'm be I one thing there is a positive there. I think lots of we're gonna get rid of these um overpaid uh prima donnas, they'll all be gone.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So what are you gonna be left with? You're gonna be lot left with lots of youngsters, and I say hopefully as well, because I I don't trust this regime at the moment to go, you know what, you know, that we've had a big offer for Monga, so we're gonna sell him, or we've had a big offer for Lewis Page, or this club in uh the championship, they want to load uh they want um so and so loaning to them.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And what are we gonna left with? So like I say, it's either gonna go cra crap, like you suggest, yeah. Or if they uh do show some um do show some bottle and do something about it, go out straight away, you're gonna get this manager because he's known to playing with youth players and in that division. And usually yes, just work to our strengths and then because one of the finishing a pottive really with the rants. There's still a great future for this club. Regardless who's owning it and treating it badly at the minute, there is it is a great club.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And it had a great past, so we should have a great future at some point. Um we're going through this crap at the moment, but I'll remain positive because I think there's a positive uh future out there for us, it's just tapping into it. So I think it's highly important that the next recruitment of the manager is nailed on.
SPEAKER_04Oh, massively, massively. Um, and just to uh one last thing, did you see the post? I think I didn't send it to you, didn't it? From Arlo White, um who's well known. Um he posted on I think it was X, it might have been one of the other social media sites, but whatever. These so he said I bet your team can't do this. 2009 League One Champions, 2014 Championship Champions, 2016 Premier League Champions, 2017 Champions League Quarter Finalists, 2020 and 21, fifth in the Premier League, 2021 FA Cup winners, 2022, Community Shield winners, 2023, relegated, 2024, Championship Champions, 2025, relegated, 2026, relegated to League One. What other club can follow that?
SPEAKER_02Well, we'll allow to set trends, don't we? We'll like to set records.
SPEAKER_04I mean, I must admit, the second half of that, what all the what other club would want to follow that in fairness? But um but majority of that there is there's always excitement at Leicester.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, there's never a door moment. No, there's no. But you know what? No, I'll be lying if I said I wouldn't change the thing. Of course you would, let's be honest, you wouldn't want this relegation in the shit we're in right now. But um yeah, we we've got to roll with it now. I think we're all resigned to the fact that we're going into League One. There's no I mean, the right that was gonna the writing was on the wall from the this summer where they're dillied and dallied about who they're going to appoint as a manager. Absolutely, and then got it horrendously wrong when they did. I mean, we and we said before, Sif Winters, Marty Siff Winter's come across a lovely guy, and we hoped he would do well, but he wasn't the right player for that club.
SPEAKER_04No, well he wasn't right.
SPEAKER_02Well the last let's be honest, the last three is it, three or four managers now have been dreadful, uh or certainly in terms of permanent, the last three permanent managers uh it's been wove decisions, but what I can't I can't for the love of me understand why we paid QPR money to get Cifuentes. That's I just I just find that astonishing. That's again the waste that this club does do when it does get some money, how it gets it so wrong.
SPEAKER_04Who's making these decisions? Why are we why have we sort of gone from a club that that due diligence on every player we buy and every manager we get to appointing Steve Cooper, Rue Van Nistelroy, Marty Sifuentes, Gary Rowat and play exactly the same brand of football in the same lineup? Well, yeah, not only that, they're just the just the the some of the I mean some of the uh not that we're bought many players, but some of the um purchases over that period I'm talking about now uh have been dreadful, haven't they? As I say, pound for pound. Jordan I worst signing ever for me, yeah. Ever.
SPEAKER_02And then you again you also look at the what player the team uh the players that they've signed that you've said, oh actually he was off decent. Well they didn't want to hang around. Elkanoose, people going about to be honest, I thought he was a bit overrated myself. People say, Oh, he was the best.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's he certainly didn't tear up with the Premier League, that's pretty brutal. People were going about him, but yeah, you say he's doing one in the German League. Well, that's that's the German league, it's not the Premier League.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, no, exactly. I'm I'm not um you know, it's one of them. You you're absolutely right, even the players that have kind of semi-impressed, they're they've not uh they've not had the best of mentalities, have they? No, let's put it that way. And Skip have gone about it cost us a fortune. At least he's put some effort in our last time.
SPEAKER_02And he has improved. And he has improved, so he's put some effort in it's become you know Yeah, no, I do I actually I do like him, I'll be honest, but the fact that we spent 20 odd million on him, that's my thinking criminal who decided who at the club made the decision, yeah. We'll spend 20 million on this player.
unknownYeah, no.
SPEAKER_02What the hell are you playing at?
SPEAKER_04It's awful.
SPEAKER_02And it's and it's the attitude of the club, the powers that be at fans there there needs to be from the powers that be at that club a grovelling apology to the fans. Absolutely. Full on, we have made a ma major errors, not error, errors over the years. It should be just unadultered, hands up. Um I'm sorry, here's the mistakes we've made. Um we'll try and put it right by doing it ourselves or selling. Uh but we don't get that. It's a narcissistic approach. It's almost like, yeah, but you won't be anywhere, you're only this type of club beforehand. It's defeat the the the the they do not come out and apologise, and it needs an apology.
SPEAKER_04Well, do you on that do you think what's the next move? Because I can see there's there's one of about three things that could happen um as we go down at the end of the season. Um he could put the club up for sale, he could, as you say, come out, apologise, and go, right, let's I'm gonna make loads of changes, let's get it right for next season, let's bounce back stronger than ever. That's one possibility. Yeah. Well, the third possibility is he could throw the towel in and we go into administration.
SPEAKER_02Well there's a thing with administration. Or we would if you would let's look at that first scenario, then administration. Well, we've been there before and oh we could we've been fine since then up to this point. Yeah. Um lots of clubs have gone into administration and they've always come out. Administration is just from my uh I understand, is just uh a way of sort sorting out the crediting. I see okay, you owe money to this organisation and or that uh individual, and it's sort of but prioritizing your payments until a suitor comes along to buy the club.
SPEAKER_04However, on that, there have been clubs that have completely gone out of business like Berry in recent years.
SPEAKER_02But the problem is again, the problem with Barry, all respect to like say Berry, and you could look at Sheffield as well, Sheffield uh Wednesday, they've had a similar, but they're still around Sheffield Wednesday because of the size. I think I think you do have to take into account the size of the club because they'll say, because there'll be a businessman around there somewhere, won't they say, Well, okay, that's in an administration, that's the time to strike, or uh maybe make a move. Buy the club for a pound or whatever. Yeah, exactly. Pay off the debts and then go from there, because that's what happened last time. Um the the the the worst caveat with administration will be the points, the automatic points.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's right. And I think that that that again would mean we'd go uh in my mind would go straight down to the Yeah, because again you'd you'd compare that at the time.
SPEAKER_02So if you're in if administration occurred, points deduction with a squad that lets me honest, as it stands, once lots of these players leave, we're not gonna have much of a squad anyway. No, and it would we wouldn't be in a position then to to buy anyone, of course. Yeah, because transfer embargoes will keep it. So yeah, I think we would do that. It would go down to league two if that was the case. But yeah, so hopefully that doesn't happen, but even it it does, it doesn't necessarily mean the end of the world, as we know, because we've been in the administration, but we don't want that to happen. Um and really I think it's looking at it at a personal level from top. Um they've got their issues in Thailand, um the home of King Power. I mean, I don't know the full latest of their manager because it was all coming back about their renegotiating their contracts with the uh airport authority in Thailand.
SPEAKER_04That's right. Well, on that, I have had uh or have seen, and I can't remember where I saw it now, to be fair. Again, it would be a social media thing, but I think this is on relatively good authority in terms of some of the figures coming out of Thailand airports and stuff. Business is really down.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Business is really down, and worryingly so, in certain sectors and markets, like you say China, the Chinese market is a big one for that.
SPEAKER_02I read some 70% uh down. It's uh it's very because of obviously what's happening in the Gulf region at the moment. I mean that air fares going up and predominantly at sea, it King Power at its heart is a travel company. Yeah, it rely on travel. Yeah, it's a yeah, duty-free kind of shots. I know I was I did read an article on how they were looking at diversifying. Um take what that means you can read into that in many ways, can't you? What diversifying means. Does that mean or shit out of course?
SPEAKER_04Is that no? Was that diversity? Sorry, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Anyway, uh I mean yeah, it's one of them. It's so for me, I can't I can't see there being any good future with King Power at the helm. I think King Power is good. I was going back to the personal level for top. With all what's going on in his homeland, do you think he's really got it in him to say, Well, I've got to contrate on the club here, or does he say this is far too stressful? I've got a young fan where KP needs sorting out, I was up. Because that's what I would do if I was him. Yeah. I'll be because let's be honest, I think we're quite clear, it's quite clear to us as fans that football isn't a love of tops.
SPEAKER_04I d I don't think it's well, it's debatable. Um some might say mass debatable, but it's um it's you know, it's definitely something he's come out and said he won't sell the the club because of his father and the love for and all the rest. I I'm not entirely sure. I think at the moment he's got too many problems looking from the outside. Uh my personal take is that I think those problems have uh you know not helped him, not helped the situation. So I've got you know, again, sympathy for that to a degree. But let's be honest now he's he's badly let his father's legacy down now for several seasons. I think time now for him to put up or shut up. Yeah, sellers, or you know, really if he's going to. Turn this around, turn it round. Yeah. If you haven't got funds to sell us, you know, whatever.
SPEAKER_02But we all know that his love, his first love is horses and polo. Yeah. Five.
SPEAKER_04And people like polos, don't they? They're the mints with a hole in them, aren't they? Well, we're the club with hole in it, aren't we? Black hole. Like our defence at the moment, isn't it?
SPEAKER_02But yeah. Um it's to me it's it's point I was getting at, I think it'll be a very much on a personal level as to why if he sells or if he stays.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Because he'll be obviously because he's answerable to his m his mother now, because his mother is the one who's took the helm of Ken Power, as far as I understand. And it's a case of now, do I sit here and because he knows our feelings, but he's not that daft, he knows a lot of us are angry with him.
SPEAKER_04Well again, again though, on that, and again we've said it many times before on this pod, and and other people have said it many times. We can't thank the family enough for what's happened in the past. That doesn't stop you from challenging what's been going on for these last yeah two, three five seasons or so now.
SPEAKER_02And I was saying we can't before before this podcast, it's almost um it's almost like an abusive uh relationship. And my analogy there is like when I've mentioned you could have you've got uh uh somebody who uh marries into a well with your background uh a well with your man and enjoying the wine enjoying the yeah enjoying in the uh the wining and dining, expensive holidays, jewellery, whatever, and suddenly you know, issues the business has to cut back and things, yeah. And then it comes to it like severely cut back, like no, you just you got even the basics, you know you can't have anything, no holidays, no more cars, you just stay at home and just do the washing, for example. That sounds a bit point of being here's the point I'm getting at. It's like to me it's like and that's where I feel that's where we are. It's like um it's like no, you you still to pay payment league wages, but you're getting League One football. And it's like you the the the expectations expectations of us as fans, it's like no you still come to the ground, you still pay a fortune of your money, what is it the fortune to you to pay to watch League One. It's almost like an an avacence, it's like no no, it's and it's almost like an abusive toxic relationship going on. That's my point.
SPEAKER_04That's yeah, yeah, it's it's it's bad, isn't it? Yeah, and that not that is bad, what you describe as bad anyway, and it's it's clear it's bad. I don't know where we go from here, but um time will tell. The the summer will be an interesting period. Um I I yeah, I I've got me uh my worries, but at the same time, like you say, let's hope we can come out of it um and grow again at some point. Uh I just you know.
SPEAKER_02Well I think it can it it can can only get better at some point. Yeah. When that point is, we don't know. Indeed. Um but my message to Top would be just consider what your actions are. It's okay to look at it from a boardroom point of view, just sitting there looking at the facts and figures and looking at the finances. Uh but the bigger picture is there's a club there being supported by loyal fans who at one time you've told them, Here you go, Premier Foot, Premier League football, uh European football, uh the odd bit of silver here and there. And now it's well, you don't realise how lucky you were. You're in League One now, hey ho, get on.
SPEAKER_04Well, we could we could always fight for the is it St Johnston's paint trophy or whatever it's called these days, the virtue trophy, isn't it? Or whatever is it the Audi Cup now? Is it's probably gonna be the pound shopper cup by the time we get there, isn't it? But um it's yeah it's interesting.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Right. But yeah, but uh yeah, I think it's for me, I think the message of top is you know, you've really got to consider the fan now. Yeah. Um you can throw at them, yeah, we wouldn't have had this success we've seen. Yes, we're not nobody's denying that, nobody's taking that away from you. However, uh it's becoming now an abusive relationship because you it's this continued decline. We can't sit here and be quiet.
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_02We've got to voice our opinion and say, okay, enough now. To all the people that are yeah, applauding KP and being committed to them. I understand that. But to step back and then look at decline that's happening. We're going League One for the second time in our history.
SPEAKER_04So on on that then, uh Oscar, are you still going to be a Leicester City fan next season? If we're in League One or if we were in Division Three, I'd always be I'd be Leicester third and three. Okay. So and uh and as Foxtrot, I can honestly say I've seen us in League One before. Uh it looks like I'm gonna see us again. Um so it doesn't make a difference to me. I've been a supporter since 1979, 80 season, Jock Wallace to date me a little bit there. I'm obviously just about 45 or whatever that makes me, 46. Roughly. Um but yeah, the product still is growing. Oh, you're poking me in the eye if it's your nose are growing up. It's not me, it's not my nose. Uh anyway, it's it's been that either. Anyway, anyway, let's let's go on to bigger and better things. Let's go on to the shout-outs this week. Have you got any yourself, Oscar?
SPEAKER_02Have you got any shout-outs? Oh, you know, um with what all our technical issues, I've completely forgotten about uh any shout-outs. Um yeah, uh I'd like to give a shout-out to the weatherman for and for the bit better weather we're getting occasionally, so yeah, but it's still crap, but it's getting better.
SPEAKER_04So No, I've got no shout-outs this week, so well uh yeah, we'll we'll go go on to a couple of mine in a second, but we will do the obvious two, which is Jarva Jane Coffee. Coffee on the move, cozy character-filled mobile coffee van, Leicestershire Knotts, Derbyshire and events. She uh Jarva Jane spends a lot of time at New Lount Nature Reserve on various dates. It's on her website, which is and obviously always weather permitting, www.jarvajanecoffee.co.uk. Um and again her offer is still on for um if you go up to her and say, Hey up, Frank, um, this is from Oxford Oscar Podcast. And if you're the first one to say it say that to that day, you will get a free cup of coffee. Alright, can't say fairer than that, can we?
SPEAKER_02Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04Um fairer than that.
SPEAKER_02There you go.
SPEAKER_04Well, you can't say fairer river than that, can you? Okay. Next one is TVD tailing, which is the wonderful, wonderful Thomas Vaughan. Leicestershire and surrounding areas is a mobile vehicle valeting supremo, who uh obviously valets cars, vans, lorries, horse, boxes. Uh is an experienced vehicle valeting service supremo, is uh upholstery cleaning, child seat cleaning, sanitizing. Uh and once again he does not clean the children or the horses. Um 07714-235-324. Book him up, he's fantastic, he really is. And again, he gives a fantastic. He's fantastic, yeah, he's horse boctastic. He's he gives a portion of his uh income straight to charity, and again, I'll let him uh tell you about that if if you uh ask him when you book him. Um but it he does genuinely, and he he's a superb oak. So that's uh that's Thomas. Um the the only thing the last thing of the segment or the last segment, should I say, of this podcast is always the mental health segment, or usually is anyway.
SPEAKER_02But I think we've run out of time, haven't we?
SPEAKER_04We've run out of time in a little bit, but all we will say is again the same as uh the same as our mantra is the same as um always is look after each other, be kind, be kind to each other out there. We've all gone through um various dips, ups and downs and and all sorts of and it's like um and that applies to everything and everywhere, and it's sort of like as much as we do not like how Top has been winning the club, you certainly wouldn't be dis disrespectful to the guy if you saw him. No, of course not. And I mean it's even Jordan I, as much as I think he's a he's an absolutely porn signing, as a bloke, I'm sure he's a brilliant bloke. I don't know, never met him, but and I wouldn't wish him ill in his life. I just think he's been an awful, awful signing. So it's one of them, isn't it?
SPEAKER_02But as people, you'd you'd still give him a nod if you saw him and say hello to him. Yeah. I mean, I'd even ask for his how to like for his um his autograph. Well he'd give you his autograph if you didn't fall over, of course. I was gonna say if yeah, anything is yeah, he'd probably fall over what I was trying to give at you in yeah. Yes, yes.
SPEAKER_04Anyway, there we go.
SPEAKER_02Um, because I what I was gonna do is forge his autograph, say, Oh look, he's signed for uh he's signed for Forest. Um you can have him now.
SPEAKER_04Well, you never know, they might need him next season hopefully to go down from the championship as well. Um wouldn't it be nice? So, yeah, again, sorry about the very short Wentworth segment this week. Uh not very much, but again, I'll just reiterate it once again. Please be kind to each other out there. Yes, we have got massive plans which won't be coming to fruition now till next season, I think. I think it's fair. Well, I think summer, close season. Summer summer closed season or or next season slash next season we'll we'll bring in lots of new things to the pod, but for now, um yeah, um that's it for now, so just be kind to each other out there.
SPEAKER_02And yes, start getting your League One shoes out. I was talking to the map and so I thought this is a funny thing though, isn't it? We're looking at oh we'll go to this map um away games because hopefully by then you might have changed to you might have a change of career which enabled enable you to um to go to some more Saturday games, yeah. And I was saying to you, wasn't I? Yeah, oh there might be some uh teams at the coast we could that'd be nice. A weekend at the coast, maybe, and uh oh look, we can or maybe not. Yeah, and uh shall we have a quick rundown of League One as it stands? An idea of some big teams we will be playing.
SPEAKER_04I think we should.
SPEAKER_02And I think yeah, get some excitement going of So League One's table at the moment.
SPEAKER_04Obviously, we know Lincoln City are gonna be in the championship, which we won't, that'll be quite embarrassing in itself. And then Cardiff currently a second, so they're looking like um they'll probably be going up as well. In the playoffs, it's likely to be Bradford, Bolton, Stockport, and Stevenidge.
SPEAKER_02Wow, Ashley is um Ashley Bolton used to be great in the Premier League, JJ Coche and all that, Sam Allardyce.
SPEAKER_04Absolutely, uh Bradford's a bit of a a sleeping giant to a degree as well. Um Stockport have obviously got a bit of money behind them at the moment. Um but yeah, they're the ones that are played. So the ones that are likely to stay in the division next season are going to be Plymouth, Huddersfield, Plymouth, Reading, Huddersfield, Luton, Wickham, Barnsley, Mansfield, Doncaster, Wigan, Peterborough, Burton, Blackpool, Orient, and AFC Wimbledon. And the four that are near the bottom, so I'm not sure which ones will go out down out of these, but Exeter's on um on on the edge. So these are the ones we need to keep an eye out on there, because Rotherham, Northampton and Port Vale. So I think uh they so at least three of them, uh, if not more, will be going down. It's all get relegated, isn't it? So um Yeah we'll be going down. So and in League Two, the ones that are likely to co-op, so we might face from elite are Bromley. Um MK Dons are currently second, although Cambridge are third with the game in hand, so it could be Cambridge. Um it could be both of them to be fair, and again because four go up, and then in the playoffs is Knotts County, Swindon, Salford and Chesterfield. Uh with outside just outside the playoffs is Grimsby, Barnett, Crewe and Oldham. They're the ones with a chance still of going up through the playoffs. So it's interesting, there's a lot of grounds there, potentially, that um yeah, would be interesting to visit as a Leicester fan, but only hopefully if we're having a good season with a bit of look. Absolutely. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02No guarantee. But the one that springs to mind is Bolton of mine going to see their ground. Nice is it the Reebok? Was it called the Reebokarina?
SPEAKER_04Wasn't it still called the Reebok? I don't know what it's called currently, if I'm honest with you.
SPEAKER_02And there's an old and again, you've got the Hudders Huddersfield that was it.
SPEAKER_04Huddersfield, I've I've I'll be honest, I don't know, these are just ones I've been to before. I've been to Huddersfield already, I've been to Barnsley already, I've been to Doncaster already, I've been to Peterborough already. Um Burton as well, that's just down the road. That's just down the road, that'd be an interesting one. Um I can't thought I've been to Exeter as well already, to be fair. So that's a long trick though, isn't it?
SPEAKER_02Exeter.
SPEAKER_04Exeter, yeah. Um Northampton, I mean, it doesn't look like they're gonna stay up, but that'd be an interesting one. If they were to stay up, obviously that's a fairly, fairly near uh nearby ground as well. But yeah, there's quite a few interesting ones there.
SPEAKER_02But again, it's it's gonna make our lives interesting. I'll say near, but when we'd go down, it's gonna just go look at the the positives.
SPEAKER_04Absolutely, of course you have. Of course you have. So onwards and upwards. Onwards and downwards at the moment. Onwards and downwards, but eventually onwards and upwards. Um so I think without further ado, that's traffic from me, Foxtrot.
SPEAKER_02And it's got my good night, good night. Let's eat it out for another ten hours. Yeah. And then I can think okay, good night. It's good night from me. It's good from me, Oscar. Turn another then, see you later. Bye.
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