APTA Nebraska Podcast
The APTA Nebraska Podcast dives into the stories, challenges, and innovations shaping physical therapy in our state. We’re here to advance, promote, and protect the practice of physical therapy, build our community, and optimize the health and quality of life for all Nebraskans.
APTA Nebraska Podcast
E8 - Member Spotlight with Ryan Hardin and Brett Burton
Ryan Hardin and Brett Burton share their journeys from McCook, Nebraska through PT school and various career paths before ultimately returning to their hometown to practice physical therapy at McCook Community Hospital.
• Both attended University of Nebraska for athletic training and UNMC for physical therapy
• Brett's path included a sports residency in Idaho and working with professional athletes in Phoenix
• A cancer diagnosis at 30 prompted Brett to reevaluate priorities and eventually return to McCook
• Ryan values working in a one-high-school town where he can serve athletes and be involved with FCA
• Small-town PT practice offers unique advantages including seeing patients through their entire recovery journey
• The critical access hospital setting provides excellent resources with 10 therapists and extensive facilities
• Both therapists treat patients across age ranges (4-104) and wide-ranging conditions
• Being part of the community creates deeper relationships with patients
• Challenges include regulatory limitations specific to critical access hospitals
• Both find joy in helping patients move better, with Ryan noting movement has "physical, emotional, psychological and spiritual benefits"
• APTA Nebraska membership provides valuable professional connections and continuing education
• McCook offers excellent quality of life with three recreational lakes, new YMCA facilities, and affordable living
Join us at upcoming APTA Nebraska conferences to connect with fellow physical therapy professionals and build valuable relationships across the state.
Episode Links:
Ryan Hardin, PT, DPT, ATC | Community Hospital - McCook, Nebraska
Brett Burton - PT, DPT, SCS, ATC, CSCS | Community Hospital - McCook, Nebraska
Founder/Instructor — One Harmonic Motion
Welcome to the APTA Nebraska podcast, where we dive into the stories, challenges and innovations shaping physical therapy in our state. We're here to advance, promote and protect the practice of physical therapy, optimizing the health and quality of life for all Nebraskans. Join us as we connect with experts, share insights and build communities throughout our profession.
Speaker 2:connect with experts share insights and build community throughout our profession. Well, hey, welcome back to the APTA Nebraska podcast. I'm Brad, your host, and today I'm excited. You know, one of the stated goals of this podcast is to try to develop more community throughout our organization, and one of the ways that we're trying to do that is just by giving a voice to the members in our organization. And so today I have Ryan Harden and Brett Burden, both from McCook, Nebraska, on the podcast. So welcome guys, Thanks for having us.
Speaker 3:Thanks, Brett.
Speaker 2:Yeah, ryan, let's maybe start with you, and Brett, we'll jump to you afterwards, but can you guys just tell our audience a little bit about yourselves? So hey, how long have you been a PT? Where has your career taken you so far? What does family life look like? What kind of recreation hobbies do you have, and why McCook?
Speaker 4:Sure. So yeah, my name is Ryan Harden. I graduated from Nebraska Med Center in 2016. I graduated high school from McCook and had zero ambition to ever move back here.
Speaker 4:I don't really know why I loved high school here, but it's four days after I graduated from the med center, god had different plans for me, and so I think, ultimately, I always wanted to work with high school athletes, wanted to be able to work with high school FCA, to be in kind of kind of a one high school town, and so, you know, I loved being in lincoln omaha, but there was just uh. There's just just a different uh atmosphere and environment when your town only has one high school that you can kind of revolve around. And so, you know, mccook checked all of all of those boxes and so, uh, I actually work in a critical access hospital here, mccook Community Hospital, and we feel super, super blessed just with the resources the hospital has given us with the size. I have a lot of classmates that are working in 1,000 square foot strip malls in bigger cities and they say, yeah, they're in bigger cities. And say, yeah, they're in bigger cities and you know, they the uh, but you, you come to a small town and there's 10 other therapists that are all working out here which, in all honesty, is probably bigger and bigger than most people think of a small town critical access rehab center, and we get to see a little bit of everything. You know, I think that I think the youngest person I've worked with was four and the oldest person was 104 and uh, and you know you, it's just a massive, massive, massive joint benefit just to just to see people move and a smaller town.
Speaker 4:I think people are people a little bit more open to just conversation and telling you their life story. And so, you know, I think one of the one of the biggest things that I just love, love at PT is just the stories that I've heard just by asking questions. Some people are willing to get real personal and deep and some people give you a real superficial answer and that's just fine, but you get to learn a ton from a super wide, wide range of patients, from a super wide range of occupations, a super wide, wide range of patients from a super wide range of occupations. And so, yeah, I've absolutely loved, loved being back here. I brought my wife, who's the smallest town she's ever lived in prior to McCook was Lincoln Growing up in the Air Force, moving all over the place, but she has absolutely loved, loved, loved McCook, and so I say, yeah, we feel pretty blessed to be here cook, and so I see how we feel, feel pretty blessed to be here.
Speaker 4:I love it. Uh, how many kids do you have, ryan? I have twin girls that are four and a two-year-old boy, so it's a uh, it is a party, an absolute, absolute active party you, you guys are busy right now, that's for sure.
Speaker 2:Good, brett, how about you?
Speaker 3:yeah, so my uh pathway. Ryan and I both graduated from high school in McCook and I was two years ahead of him, so we knew each other. In high school we both went to University of Nebraska for athletic training. We both went to the med center for school. So our backgrounds.
Speaker 4:I just grabbed onto those coattails and held on strong.
Speaker 3:We're good and we actually had another one, chan Sunger. So our backgrounds I just grabbed onto those coattails and held on strong, we're good. And we actually had another one. Chan Sunger was just a little bit, he was right in between us. We actually had three people right in a row that all went to athletic training, physical therapy schools, so I think that was kind of unique in a way.
Speaker 3:And then after school I was quite adventurous I guess I like to travel and go and so I applied for sports residency programs and got into a sports residency in Boise, idaho, at St Luke's Sports Medicine, which they still currently have a residency program there. It's a large hospital-based sports medicine program. So I really wanted to try to figure out how to take my athletic training skills and physical therapy skills and make them work together and that was a great place to do that. We got to cover anywhere from semi-pro to peewee football, so you know as a wide range of experiences there. We stayed up in Idaho for a few years. My wife is a therapist as well, so we both worked at St Luke's. Then our travels took us down to Phoenix, arizona, for a while to work with Exos as a human performance company where we serviced professional athletes and that was kind of the bread and butter of the company. We also saw high school, college, but it was a setting where it was pretty much treating athletes all day, which was a lot of fun, and got to see a lot of different sides of sports, from the business side to very high level of competition and just a lot of amazing athletes. So I had a really good time there.
Speaker 3:But I think for my story things got changed quite drastically. I was diagnosed with cancer when I was 30, when I was working at Exos, and so that forced me to stop. I had to stop work for about five months. I entered into a couple of major surgeries, had to go through chemotherapy, all those things, and when you're kind of running fast, I would say, and you're forced to stop so quickly, that makes you kind of evaluate what you're doing. And I got back. Fortunately I had great medical care when I was down in Phoenix. I got feeling better and I got back to Exos and just didn't feel like that's where I was supposed to be and so I dipped my toe, I would say, into teaching for a while and kind of the private space we're offering CEUs for blood flow restriction training and teaching health and fitness professionals about those methods and eventually ended up doing some self-employment and some teaching and had started a wellness company as well. So, between those three things they were paying the bills and we were doing all right in Phoenix.
Speaker 3:And then, I think you know, I got to a point where, yeah, god made it pretty clear that it was time to come back home. And we came back here to mccook just a couple years ago and, uh, at this point in time we've got four children and our uh, we, we enjoy mccook. I mean, one of the reasons why I'm a cook is it's very simple, I think is one thing that I appreciate about it. The people are very friendly, but I can ride my bike to work and it takes me eight minutes to get here and you don't have to fight traffic and I can be home for dinner at night and there's like some just very simple things to our community that make it just really nice for a young family, for the kids to be able to play in the yard and other things.
Speaker 3:So you know, I think early on in my career it was very career driven and focused, and now that our family has grown and I went through cancer. What's important and what you're looking for has changed. So I guess, to kind of close all this, my day kind of looks like I still have my online wellness company that I run, which is more of a performance based business, and I do that a couple afternoons a week, and then I'm treating like four days a week here. So there's it's kind of a good mix of like some time at the computer and things that I'm working on there, but also I really like the interaction with co workers and patients as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I, I appreciate both of you kind of giving some background on what your careers have looked like and and, uh, you know how you've moved through different seasons of your life too and why you've made those decisions in some ways, because, um, I think sometimes it can feel like, uh, it can feel like failure if you, if you don't like, end up in one spot and stay there for the rest of your life, right, and I think it's okay to to understand that you change as a person and, and you know, you don't have to go work in one setting or in one place for the entirety of of your profession as well.
Speaker 2:I think I, you know, ryan, you and I, at our annual conference, we did that debate, right, and I remember talking to you a little bit about just even the fact that, hey, when I was going through PT school, just because of my family of origin, I watched my grandpa work the same job for 65 years, right, and I think just I inherently thought, gosh, I need to be in one spot my entire life and it would be failure if I'm not Now. I don't think that's the case for many people these days, but I appreciate your guys' transparency and just kind of talking through why you've ended up where you've ended up and how your career goals have even changed, because I think it demonstrates great reflection skills, professionalism. Brett, you've done a number of things, and certainly it was a personal health issue that maybe helped you reevaluate why you want to be closer to home a little bit more too, and so I really appreciate that, guys.
Speaker 4:I Just being a physical therapist to where it's, you know, I think I think one of one of the reasons, the reasons why I love my job so much from and say, like everybody wants to move, the.
Speaker 4:You know, god designed us, god designed our body to move and to move well and as. And you know, moving better has obvious physical benefits, but there's emotional benefits or psychological benefits, there's spiritual benefits, like we, just everybody wants to move. And so you know, being being a PT, like yeah, we could work anywhere, you know there's, there's, there's massive mobility options in terms of you know where, where, where do you want to work as a PT, and what avenue and what? Because it's a you know whether, whether whether you're you're trying to get someone to move better, in that they just roll over in bed better, or whether you're trying to get them to run a marathon faster, at the end of the day, like we're just moving better. And so you know you become a movement specialist pretty quickly, whether you're working with 18 year olds or 85 year olds, and you know being able to watch someone's face when they accomplish a movement goal that they weren't able to do, like there is always genuine joy, purely because that's that's that's just how the body, the body was created to move.
Speaker 4:And so you know, we get to enter into these awesome environments where you know there might be psychological trauma associated with their physical trauma or emotional trauma, or you know there's something is keeping them from moving and we get to break through that wall, whether it's purely through exercise or whether it's through conversation, or whether it's through the side gig of counseling that we've all had to do with some people and you know, at the end of the day, you they get to move better and you get to watch them. Uh, just the yeah, like it's it's, it's just pure joy to watch someone move better, whether it's a super simple task or a super complex task.
Speaker 2:I love that and you're like, you're kind of reading my mind a little bit, ryan, because I wanted to hear what, what has been joyful for you guys about being a physical therapist. I also want to know about what what's been hard about being a physical therapist. Again, I appreciate the transparency and the candor and I think it's good to talk about those types of things. And so you know, ryan, maybe you can talk a little bit about what's been what's been tough at times. And then how do you balance that with what you just said about what's been joyful too?
Speaker 4:I think, from a work specific standpoint, I think I have a couple tough neurological cases, one being someone with ALS, and so, you know, getting like she's absolutely awesome to work with, the family's awesome to work with, like it's been fun, I mean fun, sounds kind of morbid but it's it's, it's been fun, I mean fun fun sounds kind of morbid but it's a, you know, from a professional sense, like it's been a really, really cool, awesome opportunity to be able to walk, walk, walk with these with, with this family, family through that.
Speaker 4:But there's also just some, just just some natural reckonings that that you just have to have, uh, from you know, watching the physical decline, watching the strength decline, watching going from pseudo walking to now in a power chair, and you know, just, you know kind of being forced into those conversations with family and then say, you know how do you enter into those conversations with grace intact to where you're not setting up false expectations but you're also not forcing the family to lose complete hope? And there's that sweet middle ground that you know, particularly with some of those tougher diseases. And you know Brett's done a bunch of research on muscle wasting disease and things like that to where I'm sure he's had to have these conversations with a lot of people on it on his own, uh, private, private, private counseling and counseling company he has. But, um, you know it's, you know every, every, everyone talks about how you know the paperwork with PT is hard and you know, finding finding that work-life balance and you know it's, I mean, that's that, that's, that's the reality for everybody.
Speaker 4:But, um, yeah, just current, currently I just have a couple people where finding, finding that line of how do you provide hope without inflating expectations to unrealistic beings? Uh, it's, it's just been a tough psychological, emotional, spiritual battle, that battle that we're dealing with.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Brett. How would you answer that same question?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think the joy, what brings you joy and what brings the heartache are almost intertwined, because sometimes the hardest things are eventually what end up reaping the most joy. I mean I would speak to that even personally with going through cancer. That was a very hard season in my life but looking back on it it's probably one of the best things that has happened. To be honest which is odd to say, I know but seeing and getting into the trenches with people in their lowest points, I think that's one thing that therapy offers. And especially out here at McCook we might see somebody in acute care down at the hospital. We might see them for a few days there, get them home and then their baby back in outpatient this next week.
Speaker 3:So it's like you see acute care, you see them coming in, you know there might even be about a home health potentially in between there as well. So I think this is like very unique that you're not going to see in too many places. Where you might see a patient in acute care, you might see that same person in the hospital or in home health, then you might see that same person in outpatient and you get to see really from their lowest of lows to building and making progress and seeing them come so far along. That's really quite remarkable and very unique in this type of a practice, setting that most of the time it's a little more siloed I would say acute care, home health and outpatient and sometimes you're able to see that all the way through. Ryan might be able to speak to that even a little bit more.
Speaker 4:And that's the. I mean you work in a small enough town to where I mean you'll get people that you know they come in for their total knee and then two years later they're back in for their total hip, and then you know, a year later they're back in for their total hip, and then you know, a year later they're back in for a shoulder, and and so you know you, you get to develop these, these pretty awesome relationships with people across multiple, multiple injuries, even, not necessarily even even with just you know, one, one, one traumatic experience, going through all phases and phases of the rehab yeah, I'm listening to you guys talk about some of that and even just thinking about my own career, where I've had opportunities to develop really deep relationships with some of the patients that and the families that I've served over time.
Speaker 2:And you know, some of them are still in my community, so to say, within Omaha, but many of them have gone back to other states that was the nature of what my work looked like, right or they've gone out to different communities and, as I listen to you guys talk, like, many of the people that you're serving are just a part of your community, right, they may live down the street from you or maybe your kids have some overlap in some way shape or form, or it happens to be your parents, friends or you know. Know like you have these long standing relationships with many of those people and, um, that's just part of being maybe part of a sticky community in some ways, right, like everyone is is linked and um, uh, sometimes you may not have to ask about the history because you know the history, you've been an integral part of it. Um, as you're doing that evaluation process, right, and some and some of that goes with.
Speaker 4:You know McCook has 7,500 people at the town but from a marketing standpoint, a lot of the businesses associate about a 50,000 person circle surrounding McCook, and so you know there's about 40, there's about a 45 mile radius that McCook operates as the hub of. Uh, you know the the the closest Walmart is 72 miles away outside of McCook, and so you know you, you draw in a pretty massive, uh massive, massive amount of people, people, people coming into to, to, to the McCook area and uh, yeah, you talk about just life experiences that walk through this hospital every day.
Speaker 2:So I'm kind of curious you know this is maybe just thinking about APT Nebraska in general. You know there's always things within our profession that we're maybe advocating for in different ways. But I'm also just curious, like what kinds of problems do you guys have pop up in your day to day within maybe a business perspective, and and how are you guys working to maybe find solutions to some of those problems currently?
Speaker 4:I think one of our, one of our biggest problems, and it's some some some of it's just kind of the nature of the beast when you're working with a critical access hospital and there's just different rules and regulations from standard outpatient, which some of those it's a massive benefit for us, some of them it's somewhat of a drawback.
Speaker 4:And so I know I think the last time that I was at the UNMC career fair we were talking to a Nebraska APTA rep talking to a Nebraska APTA rep and they were saying they're currently working on trying to get rid of or just modify how direct access works in a critical access hospital.
Speaker 4:Because you know there's direct access, true direct access, for outpatients and for private PT practice clinics, I believe. But there's still several hoops to jump through when you're with a critical access hospital to where you you know all of our orders still still require a doctor referral. We can't see a single person without getting getting a doctor referral and you know it's it's really really hard to do cash pay and you know it's really really hard to do cash pay Also out of a hospital due to insurance regulations and just how the referral system works. It's a you know, most of the time if you have to go to a doctor to get a referral to PT, you're just going to have insurance pay for it anyway, and so you know those. Those are probably the two biggest, biggest hurdles that the the I know the, I know the Nebraska APTA is is working on at the, at the state level, to get regulations and laws modified in that manner.
Speaker 2:Is there anything that you guys maybe do, just communicating with your hospital leadership or even with the physicians there, to educate on physical therapy and what you guys are able to accomplish? What does that look like for y'all?
Speaker 4:I think most of our conversations it's a have like.
Speaker 4:We've had several of those and I think we have a pretty awesome relationship with our admin and most of our responses are kind of it's a, our hands are tied, like there's stuff above us in the state and federal rules and regs where, yes, we'd love to be able to do that but we can't, and so I think that's kind of the it's also, you know, being being being in a smaller facility. The hospital is fairly, fairly in tune with what rehab does, the, whether it's from the commercial benefit, just revenue coming in, whether it's, you know, from them having to add parking spaces purely because there wasn't enough room, you know from them having to add parking spaces purely because there wasn't enough room and it's, I mean, they've given us a pretty awesome amount of space and resources to be able to operate in, and so I don't think it's necessarily a level of you know our hospital admin not necessarily knowing what we do or what we can do or what we need to do. I think it's just a there's small, small pond and bigger fish make the rules.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Well, let me. Let me ask you this last question, guys what, what kind of value have you found in being an APTA Nebraska member?
Speaker 3:I'll start, you know, coming back to Nebraska just two to three years ago. I have enjoyed reconnecting with old professors, students. I went to the conference this past year what would have been spring?
Speaker 2:Spring yep.
Speaker 3:The conference here just a few months back and it was nice to connect with several classmates and professors and people that you had interacted with before, and I do think that that is one benefit that Nebraska has, you know, being down in Arizona, they have the Arizona Therapy Association as well, which is, you know, a larger group, and I did go to some of their events as well.
Speaker 3:And I think again, what makes Nebraska, and McCook in particular, unique are the people.
Speaker 3:Really, you know, it's like those connections and it's not, you know, like the connections just seem to run deeper, because a majority, a lot of the state is made up of rural communities like ours, where you might've gone to high school together, you went to boys state together in high school or, you know, there's there's these pockets played in state basketball or state track or these things right, there's these pockets where you're continuing to bump shoulders with people and interacting with them through different phases of your life, and so I think, you know, being a member and being able to lean into some of those resources has been helpful.
Speaker 3:I've enjoyed, like, for example, like I talked to Dr Norman at the conference and I actually am going to take a call with him here in a few weeks about some things that I was just interested in, you know, and so being able to like, have that type of relationship with professors or clinicians or students that goes beyond the length of time you're there really is very meaningful. So I think that's some things that the association provides is the ability to collaborate and network in these unique ways that are hard to recreate if you're just trying to do that independently.
Speaker 4:I would echo that I hadn't been to a state meeting in years. In all honesty, I don't. I probably went to one within the first couple years of graduating but in all honesty, it had probably been six or seven years prior to this last spring when I went one and I got to meet a couple of Clarkson College professors who had sent PTA students out to us. I'd to meet a couple of great new university professors and so, yeah, getting to have those conversations with it's a you know that I'll look forward to seeing at the next meeting.
Speaker 4:Like in all honesty, like I'm not going to.
Speaker 4:Our paths are probably not going to cross over the next six months between last meeting and this meeting, but it is.
Speaker 4:It's going to be something to where you know, over the next six months between last meeting and this meeting, but it's gonna be something where you know I'm legitimately looking forward to hey, hopefully they're at this meeting so I can see them again and they, you know, figuring out what they're, you know what they're doing, doing with students, how they're teaching things.
Speaker 4:I think I'd probably just underestimated the impact of seeing current professors that are currently teaching and say you know, now that I'm doing a lot more just having a lot more students, like it's really helpful to just have conversations of how the teaching method changed over the last 10 years, changed over the last, over the last 10 years, um, uh, so yeah, I think the that networking and community aspect of you know, you don't you don't get to see these people on a regular basis. We're all busy, we all have jobs and it's a you know, most of the time when we take a vacation, it's not going to be to a pt location and uh and so, uh, having having those scheduled, those uh, those scheduled uh conferences, the um I'll be. I'll make sure they're on the calendar a heck of a lot more often than they have been over the last six years.
Speaker 2:Hey, love it. Love to hear that I didn't write you notes to say any of that either, Like that was just off the cuff. Ryan, I love it.
Speaker 4:No it is the truth, though. So, that does make it a little easier.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you guys both participated in the conference. Um, brett, I know you taught um one of the courses, and Ryan, you did a debate on uh Friday evening too. So thank you guys for just serving in those ways and connecting those ways too, and I'm glad to hear that was beneficial just to reconnect with people and um, uh, you know even sounds like Brett you're you're continuing to connect with uh people here moving forward too. Um, I do have to ask you guys since you, uh, since you brought this up, you're both from McCook originally is it a requirement that you have to be from McCook in order to come back and work in McCook? Is that, like, how does this work?
Speaker 4:It is really hard to convince people not from small towns to go work in small towns. It's funny there's a joke that all rural Nebraskans have the opinion that all Lincoln, Omaha people don't know the state exists west of, maybe York, the. You know, you talk to Omaha people and they're like, yeah, the state doesn't really exist west of Omaha, maybe even west of Elkhorn and, and so it's a. You know, there's a, there's a lot of awesome people out here. The we've we've we've been very, very fortunate enough to where we have been able to recruit a vast majority of our own people. And you know it's it's so much easier to to to recruit people that you can develop, that you can develop a relationship with in high school and then, and then you watch them go to college and you're like, hey, we still exist, how are we doing? How are you Like, is life still great? How's life? And then it's a.
Speaker 4:You know they go to PT school and so I'd say, yeah, you know, I had at the UNMC career fair, so so, so this last fall was the first year that we had that we had ever done the UNMC career fair and in all honesty had an awesome experience, like absolutely loved it, and I think I think in years prior we'd always like not a chance we're going to be able to talk to anyone from the Lincoln and Omaha Western or Eastern Nebraska era into coming out to McCook and I think by the end of the day I think we had seven or eight resumes ended up having some pretty good conversations with four of those people, had a couple people that we're pretty excited about it and say I mean, and going into different, going going to different places, which you know that's the beauty and the beauty of PT.
Speaker 4:You know you can get a job anywhere, um, uh, but the the. We were kind of surprised by how many people that were like, yeah, I'll have a conversation with someone four hours away from omaha, um, and so and and so. No, you do not have to be a resident of mccook to work here. Uh, the uh, but it is a our. Our track record has proved that's about the only people we we can hire, despite our best efforts.
Speaker 4:So uh no no, we're always looking to say, yeah, if you're interested in hunting, interested in fishing, we got about. We got three lakes within half an hour that are all great recreational lakes, New YMCA, new city pool, trying to get a new high school and junior high. We'll see how those bond issues work out. So, no, we have a ton of fun out here. I kind of say we're in the middle of everything, but kind of next to nothing. We're an hour from I-80 and an hour from I-70 and four hours to Denver and four hours to Omaha and so in our own little piece of paradise. It took COVID about nine months, longer than everywhere else, to get here.
Speaker 4:You know a small joke, it's a. You know, the whole state was getting it in March and April and it showed up here about I don't know, october, maybe. So, but no, we have, we have a ton of fun in McCook. Uh, it's uh, uh, it's an awesome place to work, like I love, love the people that I work with. Um, yeah, I feel, I I feel pretty blessed to call my coworkers good friends.
Speaker 2:So hey, I appreciate it, guys. Thank you so much. Uh, you, you gave me your lunch hour. Thanks for having the conversation with me. I hope this is valuable to our audience. I think it will be, and you said there's a lot of great things west of Omaha and Lincoln. You guys are part of that. You guys are pretty great guys. So I appreciate you jumping on and doing this with me and I hope we can even talk again before the state meeting.
Speaker 4:Okay, Thanks, dan, for chatting with us. Brad yeah, thank you. All right, see you guys Later, dave. Bye-bye.
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