Business Over Cocktails - Behind the Business - Real Talk with Female Entrepreneurs
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Business Over Cocktails - Behind the Business - Real Talk with Female Entrepreneurs
Why Your Business No Longer Feels Like You w/ Jacquelynn Pilcher
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You can build a business that looks good online and still feel completely disconnected from the life you’re actually living behind it.
In this episode, Jacquelynn Pilcher shares what it has looked like to rebuild her life and identity in real time. From growing up in survival mode to navigating divorce, motherhood, entrepreneurship, and major life changes all at once, she opens up about the version of herself she spent years performing and why she finally stopped trying to maintain what only looked good on paper.
She talks about why so many people struggle to show up authentically online, how survival mode quietly shapes the way you build your business, and why people connect more deeply to human connection than polished perfection. Jacquelynn also shares the mindset shifts that helped her stop building from pressure and performance and start creating a business that actually fits her real life instead of building a brand around who she thought she needed to be.
So, if you’ve been feeling disconnected from your business, exhausted trying to keep up online, or like the version of success you built no longer feels aligned, this episode will probably hit deeper than you expect.
Chapters:
- 00:25 Jacquelynn’s life changes since the last episode
- 02:15 Growing up as a “chameleon”
- 04:25 Why authenticity is not a branding trick
- 05:45 How survival mode follows you into business
- 07:25 Why people connect to human over perfect
- 08:55 Trust, emotional connection, and sales
- 10:00 Stop building your business from survival mode
- 11:10 Be magnetic instead of marketable
- 12:00 Why confidence comes from visibility
- 13:00 Building a business your nervous system can sustain
- 14:05 Letting people watch you evolve
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Welcome to the Business Chaser, your quick pour of strategy, clarity, and momentum. We skip the small talk and get straight to the strategy here in these bite-sized episodes. We're here to help you grow smarter, market better, and chase what matters all in 15 minutes or less. I'm your host, Laura Najar. Tune in and let's chat.
SPEAKER_01Hello, everybody. It is Jacqueline Pilcher. I know the last time I was here with Laura and my name was Cotton. Well, it's officially still Cotton, but I'm getting divorced. And it actually ties into today's conversation that I want to have with all of you, which is talking about identity shifts. Okay. Now, when you listened to the prior episode, you got to know a lot of intimate things about me. My childhood, I grew up with neglect, and I called myself a chameleon. Like I had to become a chameleon, right? So, in all of that, in all of the chaos, which I called life, and I know a lot of you can relate to that. I always knew I was different. I always knew that I wanted to have something of my own. I knew I was creative. I knew that I wasn't going to be able to work for the man. You know, we discussed that in the last episode. And so I wanted to have my own thing. So I have a podcast called Just Women Talking Shit. And I absolutely love it. We talk to women around the world. I've had one, maybe two men on the on the show, but I talk to women much like Lauren, and we really get behind the scenes of what has gotten them to where they are, talking about their childhood, their upbringings, you know, all of the pivotal moments, all the monumental moments that make a person who they are through life experience. So in addition to that, I'm a content strategist. I consider myself a marketing guru. I'm really intuitive. And so I call myself kind of the Jacqueline of all trades. I can help you, you know, plan your content all the way to building an entire business or helping you scale your business through systems and marketing and just standing out online. So today I want to talk with you briefly about the identity shift that's required to build an authentic brand. I hear all the time, Jacqueline, like you just ooze authenticity. And I'm like, well, I didn't get here overnight. Okay. I used to hide who I am. I didn't show the quirks. I didn't show the weird. I was very much, remember, a chameleon. And so I want to talk about this because something I've realized over the years is that most people don't actually have a strategy problem whenever it comes to their business. They have an identity problem. And you really do have to shift identity over and over and over again. You have to kind of die in a way and be reborn in order to get to the point that you want to get to, however big that vision might be. So I say that as someone who, you know, spent most of her life shape-shifting to survive. I grew up around a lot of negativity, trauma, unpredictability, emotional chaos. So, like I said, I became a chameleon and I learned how to read the room. I know a lot of you are like, oh my God, that's me too. I read the room, like I read energy, all the things. And you could feel it in your body, right? But I learned to adjust my energy. I learned to stay small. I learned to stay agreeable, and I learned to not use my voice too much. That unfortunately followed me into adulthood relationships, jobs, and even entrepreneurship. I mean, all of it. And what is wild is, like I said earlier, the last time I recorded with Lauren, my life looked completely different. I was married, I had a blended family of seven. Life looked really full and really good from the outside. But now, less than a year later, I'm separated. I'm going through divorce. I'm raising two kids in a 17-foot camper behind my mom's house while helping care for her and my stepdad pops while he goes through cancer treatments. There's just a lot of health issues. So life looks completely differently, or completely different. And honestly, I think that's why this conversation about identity matters to me so much right now. Because I had to ask myself, like, what parts of my life were actually aligned? And what parts was I maintaining because, well, they just, to be frank, look good on paper. That's a brutal question to sit with. And I want you to sit with that as well and ask yourself that and just reflect on it for a minute. Because I think that a lot of people, a lot of people are quietly living lives, relationships, and building businesses, even, you know, your online identity, they don't fully feel like you or feel like them anymore. And what happens is, based on neuroscience and just how your nervous system works, eventually your body, your mental health, and your nervous system start screaming for change. So when I talk about authenticity, I'm not talking about aesthetics and I'm not talking about branding tricks. Okay. I'm talking about the willingness to completely rebuild your life around truth instead of around performance. Let that one sink in for just a second. I've worked so many jobs. I've always had side hustles. I've pivoted a million freaking times. And for years, I thought that I hadn't found the thing or my thing. But looking back now, I realized I was struggling to fully trust myself. Because when you grow up adapting to survive, you become really disconnected from your actual voice, from your real opinions, your intuition, and even your identity. So then what happens is you get online trying to build a business, and suddenly people are telling you things like be visible, be consistent, show up authentically, right? We've all heard this. But your nervous system is most likely like, absolutely freaking not. No, not doing that. And one thing that Lauren said to me in the previous episode was that my authenticity stands out. And honestly, I think that's why my content works. I don't have a lot of followers, but I have at all times at least 30,000 plus eyes on my profile. I have like 1700 followers. Okay. But I keep people coming back because I do show up authentically. And it's because I talk about things like mental health being broke in business. Like we don't all have great months. People are only highlighting the good things and they're leaving out the struggle that gets there, right? So talking about being broke in business, that's something a lot of people aren't willing to talk about. Rebuilding my life. I'm 37. This is my second divorce. People are probably like, this bitch is crazy. When's she going to get it together? She's just not meant for love. But I'm still putting it out there. Being neurodivergent, you know, talking about divorce, motherhood, all the messy stuff people are afraid to admit. And I think that, to be honest, people are exhausted from polished perfection. People don't connect to perfect anymore. They connect to human. And that is so ironic with the age that we're going through with AI. The reason people trust certain creators, coaches, artists, brands is because they feel like they know them. They have this parasocial relationship. That emotional connection is what creates trust. And when you create that trust, you collapse the timeline whenever it comes to them wanting to buy from you, ask you a question, attend a workshop, whatever it might be. Trust is what creates sales. I know Lauren speaks on that all of the time. I'm pretty sure she's blue in the face at this point because she talks about it so much, but it's true. So I've really started saying lately that I help people get paid to exist. And what I mean by that is that you shouldn't have to abandon yourself to build a successful business. You shouldn't have to become a robot or a carbon copy. I see that a lot here down south. Not throwing shade on you, Mississippi, but kind of throwing shade. We pretend that we have to keep it together 24-7, right? And I think that the future of marketing is human connection. I think that people are craving businesses and brands that feel real, that feel safe, that feel honest, that feel emotionally intelligent, especially right now. So if I could leave listeners with a few actionable things, the first would be one, stop building your business from survival mode. And I know Lauren's on the other side of the screen going, bitch, I told you that so long ago. Like we came to this realization when I was in Dallas that I'd been doing that for so long, building a business from survival mode. So ask yourself, does my content actually sound like me? That's a big thing. Or does it sound like what I think people want me to be? And that goes with your B role. That goes with your pictures, all the things. There's nothing holding you back from showing up imperfect, from showing your little I showcase my mom muffin a lot. We've named her Cheryl. I also have a character named Cheryl, but Cheryl is just the name that comes to mind. You've got to be real. You've got to quit trying to be perfect. So ask yourself, does it sound like me or am I like performing? Performing is good at times, right? But you don't want to perform on a daily basis and that be your assumed identity. That's not authentic. So a lot of people are building these brands around performance instead of actual personality, like who you are, what you're made of, what your beliefs are, characteristics, like things that make you cool as shit. The weird. I love to showcase the weird. And the second thing is learn what makes you magnetic instead of always trying to be marketable. Your weirdness is usually the strategy. Okay. The things that make you feel like you're too much or you're awkward or you're different, those are usually nine times out of 10, the things that people connect to the most. People remember personality. They do not remember perfection. Okay. And the third thing is practice being seen before feeling ready. What I mean by that is I think people actually wait until they're fully healed, fully confident, fully polished before they show up. But confidence actually comes from visibility. Like I say this to my clients all the time: honey, you didn't come out of the womb. The doctor did not smack your ass, and you're like, oh shit, I'm confident. No, it's a learned thing. It's something that you learn over time. It is a muscle that you build. So you build self-trust by showing up scared. The fourth thing is build a business that your nervous system can actually sustain. I've experienced this so many times building too fast, and it all comes down, which is why we want to burn it down and we want to just, you know, start over so many times. This is huge for me personally. I'm a single mom. I live in a camper. I travel for work. I help care for family members. I have a daughter that I homeschool. I have one that goes to school 45 minutes from where we live. I have chronic illness. I have mental health issues. I'm balancing real life like every single freaking day. And my business has to work with my actual life. I think people keep burning out because they're trying to copy business models that don't actually fit who they are. So sometimes the identity shift requires grieving the life you thought you wanted, and that's hard. But staying in something that like no longer feels aligned, that's also hard. And the last thing I want to leave you with is let people watch you evolve. I think one of the most powerful things that you can do online is let people witness your evolution in real time. Not pretending that you have it all figured out, not waiting until the story is perfectly tied up and, you know, wrapped with this beautiful bow. Just being honest because your evolution gives other people permission to evolve too. And at the end of the day, I think people that really connect with you most deeply aren't looking for perfection. They're looking for permission. They're looking for permission to be themselves, to change, to pivot, to heal, to start over, to take up space. And I think the most powerful thing you can do is to stop building a life or a business around what looks good and to start building something that actually feels true. So all those questions really sit with yourself, think about them. And if you're not feeling in alignment, you really do have to take an inventory and figure out how you want to do this because we've all started over a million times. But the trick is to build from a place of truth, to build from a place of trusting yourself and to build from a strong and steady foundation instead of trying to skip all the steps because, oh, shiny object syndrome, or oh, that person's doing this, or oh, that person's doing that. Let me keep up with the trends, build something sustainable by staying true to who you are and trusting the process of personal evolution. Because that next level, as long as you trust and as long as you just go for it and let the universe coordinate how it's going to happen, that next level, that next you always comes with resources. I love you guys and I hope this helped.
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