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052- Unhinged Wedding Opinions

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A lot of people want to blame “wedding culture,” but we think the real problem is pressure, priorities, and bad expectations. We sit down with Taryn and Trago for an unhinged but genuinely useful conversation about how to plan a wedding that feels like you, not a social media audition. We talk budgets without shame, why going into debt for a wedding is a hard no, and how anything from a courthouse ceremony to a luxury venue can be the right choice when it matches your life.

Then we get into the wedding vendor rabbit hole: wedding content creators, photographers, and the trend of adding content creation packages as an upsell. We break down what content creation actually delivers, why “two jobs at once” can dilute quality, and what couples should look for when they hire wedding vendors. Think contracts, reviews, insurance, professional payment, and that underrated step of getting on a call to see if you even gel with the person who’ll be in your space all day.

We also spill our wedding icks and hot takes: ugly wedding decor, chair bows, overbranding every item with initials, logo ice cubes, shaped butter, and the chaos of calling something “black tie” without providing a black tie experience. We wrap with bridal party energy, client communication, and why some extras like audio guestbooks can end up as expensive clutter. If you’re planning a wedding, this one will save you money, stress, and regret.

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Cold Open And Setup

SPEAKER_06

Okay. Um, your opinion on audio guessbooks.

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Where are you going?

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He's exiting the premises. It's coming up on shuffle when you plug in your computer and then like some random file comes on and hey guys, it's Aunt Pecky.

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I really think the goal of a happy marriage is Kelsey and Grace back with the Wedding Hive Hive.

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Giving it a tea and all the funs in the wedding world. Let's jump right in.

SPEAKER_06

Hey Queens, welcome back to another episode of the Wedding Hive Podcast. Today we are joined by people who've got the jokes, the stories, and zero chill. Welcome back to the podcast, Taryn and Trago.

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Yay!

Wedding Culture Backlash And Debt

SPEAKER_06

Oh my gosh. I didn't even realize that. So cute. Uh well, guys, welcome back to the podcast. We had both of you on recently, but we figured we needed to do an unhinged episode. A little collab. A little collab. I knew who to call, and you two are perfect for the job. So today's episode is gonna be a little crazy. We're gonna be giving our wedding opinions. It's gonna be unhinged. And just to preface, these are just our opinions. At the end of the day, it is your wedding. So do whatever you like and whatever you please, but we're just here to give our honest opinions. And you can listen to us. You don't have to have to. You don't have to, but this is just what we're thinking, and it's gonna be a fun episode. So, first thing I want to get into is I told you guys I was driving home one day and I get a text from my sister-in-law, and it's a screenshot of a YouTube video. And it's basically this girl going in on Kelsey and I, and I have the video up, but we're not gonna listen to it. But basically, the whole video is about wedding culture is out of control, and she shit it on us. She shit it on a lot of people. But how long is this video? Yeah, right. It is an hour long, an hour. All on you guys? No, no, no, no. Just in time. So basically, she took videos from different TikToks, clips, and was like people explaining how much they're spending on their wedding, and she's like, This is getting out of control, yada yada. But I don't know. I feel like obviously at the end of the day, if you want to spend money on your wedding, then spend money on your fucking wedding. For sure. So like this is America, it's free will. Do what you want. But she basically is just going in on everyone saying that weddings shouldn't happen, it's you know, it's social media and that they're just overrated.

SPEAKER_03

I have thoughts. Okay, let's hear them. So you should never go into debt over your wedding. Period. You should have the wedding you can afford and the wedding you want. And if that so happens to be at a luxury venue with all of these crazy cool vendors and all of the tips and all of the things that you want to have, then cool. Yeah. But if not, elopements are great too. Yeah. Like you don't have to have these weddings. My biggest thing right now to somewhat agree with her is that people shouldn't get married just to have a beautiful wedding on Instagram. They should get married because that's what they want and that's what their vision is to celebrate with their person. So yeah, I mean, if you're just gonna have a wedding to post it on Instagram, bad idea. Bad idea.

SPEAKER_04

100%, right? I mean, you can have the courthouse wedding all the way up to a seven-figure plus wedding, eight figures or whatever. The used car with 300,000 miles will get you from A to B, and so will a car that is basically a spaceship. So you know what I mean? Like if you've got a cyber troll.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you close, and I'm like, oh, I guess. Yeah, and one doesn't one isn't better than the other. It's just like what you want, your vision, and all of those things. And as long as your core point is, hey, I'm gonna marry my best friend and we're gonna have the best party for us.

SPEAKER_04

That part.

SPEAKER_03

Yep, like do it.

SPEAKER_06

I totally agree. Yeah. Does she she sounds salty? She sounds a little broke, she sounds a little sad. Okay, so actually in the video, she likes to make it a point that she has a$10 ring and that she got married in her apartment, I think. And I'm like, huh, interesting. So to each their own. It's always, I swear, it's always the girls with the small rings that are like, you don't need a big ring, you don't need a big wedding. And I'm just like, okay. So she sounds like an extreme group honor. Like couponer, you know what I'm talking about? And I got the group on this for 43 cents. Literally. She has a can. If she's an extreme couponer, she's gonna be a good one. Yes, has a bunker with like everything in there. Like, very cool. Again, to each their own. Yes.

SPEAKER_03

And you know, like capitalism, though. Oh wow, so they played the capitalism. Yeah, basically what Kelsey was saying. So, like the biggest trend right now is like a moisenite ring or like a lab grown diamond. So you can save money in those things. For sure. Um, a lot of people do the moisenite rings, they're giant diamond diamonds, yeah, gemstones. And like, okay, cool, great. For me, I'm a natural diamond girly. Period. Saren said, I know what I want, and I have to be it's gotta be one of them, one of the clean ones. But like again, to each their own. And it just because she's got a$10 ring and I have a X amount ring, like, it doesn't make it like whatever. I'm married to my best friend. How much your ring is mine? Currently is$11,000, but it's all pure diamonds. So it's just like and we were 24 when we got married. Now this bitch would be a hell of a lot bigger.

SPEAKER_06

But you know, she's like, I just want to prepare this.

SPEAKER_04

I know, and it's your seven-year anniversary today.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, period. And I was like, one of us is walking out dead. We're we're in this forever. Oh, yeah. Whether we made it seven or forty-seven, like we're in. 100%.

SPEAKER_06

I'm like kids. Yeah. No, that's like I always tell my husband, I'm like, I always see the memes too. It's like what it's like if I die, like kill my husband. Like, you're not, you're not getting with anyone else. Like ever. I don't care. It's not, it's not happening. I literally got our wedding day tattooed. You're not leaving me. For real. We're inked, baby. You're not going fucking anywhere.

SPEAKER_04

Well, we've obviously had some conversations about this since my wife had a near-death experience. Oh, yes. And she goes, You're gonna need to get remarried. You can't do anything for yourself. Let's just she knows your limits.

SPEAKER_07

I was like, uh, love you, baby.

SPEAKER_04

I was like, it would just be like really expensive and sad. I would be sad. And sad and lonely.

SPEAKER_03

It's like, come back to every keys. Come back to your remixes would go from like hype to lonely.

SPEAKER_04

I'd be sick.

Content Creators Versus Photographers

SPEAKER_06

Just balance all day long. Yes, I would love that. So, okay, let's get into the first one. And Traeg and I have talked about this a little bit off camera. Um, what is your opinion on photographers adding content creation packages? The spots on you, Taryn.

SPEAKER_03

Um, okay. I think that if you're gonna make a package deal with a content creator, cool, because you're giving your friends business. Yeah, I am not a videographer. I will never be a videographer. It's not something that I want to do. But every time brides are like, hey, do you do photo and video? No, I'm I have perfected my craft in photo forever, ever growing, but I just could never get into video. It's just not something I love. And at this stage in my life, it's not something I really have time for. And I'm in my lane, I'm dedicated. So when people ask ask me that, I'm like, I don't, but look at all my beautiful friends that I do have. And then it's like, one, I don't want to add more onto my plate. I don't want to be a content creator and a photographer and a peacekeeper. And, you know. So I'm like, hey, look, here's Brock. Come on in. Like, and then I get to hang out with people that I like, and it's not just me. So, like, as far as content creation goes, I'm in my lane and I want to give the money to my my friends. You know, I want to support their businesses. For sure. So for me personally, it would be like, hey, let me get a discount code for you, or like let's see if they have like a referral code or something like that, like you and I do. Yeah. And give my other people that I love the business. I don't think it should be an add-on for me. I just don't have it's just not in my wheelhouse to do. And like I said, I just want to support other businesses rather than just adding it on as like a cheap, yeah, like a cheaper, affordable thing, which is great. But like there's people that are actually coming up and it's like a niche that is coming up and becoming more popular and like readily available. You were talking this about this on your Instagram, where like you can have those videos that are cool to see, and like it's not just the cinematic video that a videographer would do. So I'm like, just have have somebody the eLove and Trust that wants to give you the best experience on that.

SPEAKER_04

Well, to me, I feel like the value of a content creator is a multitude of things, but the thing that is the biggest thing is that you have your wedding day, and then photo might get you some previews and whatnot, and then it's eight to twelve weeks-ish for turnaround for the gallery. Same with video, and so it like you keep the high of the wedding going. There is no fade, there is no like, I wonder if it really was that fun, or like was I just like endorphined out in my head, or like anything like that.

SPEAKER_03

I can manipulate a day to make it look more fun. Yeah, video can manipulate a day to make it look more fun. Yeah, I feel like content takes it as it is.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, yeah, you know, it's like literally storytelling as your day unfolds.

SPEAKER_03

And like iPhone videos and stuff are like the raw. Like when I take an iPhone video of my kids, like it's not a perfectly positioned lit and all of that stuff. It's like the raw stuff. So, like when you're getting it, it's like it's what happened. You're getting all of these funny moments that are like, yeah, yeah, no, they're not gonna make the final cut of the video, but they're cool to look at. So yeah, I think I think that's fair. Because like I always deliver sneak peek galleries within 48 hours so that they have something to like hang on to. Please post my photo.

SPEAKER_04

Don't well, that's the thing. You need to post your photos. And I recently somebody was like, day-day day day, and like somebody's eye, I was like, No, but to be fair, not all photographers do that.

SPEAKER_03

Like, some photographers have like a couple weeks to do sneak peeks, and I'm like, I that's like crazy work.

SPEAKER_06

I feel like at least, I mean, obviously, I content editing is different than photography editing, but I'm like, at least even if it was like for me personally, I mean, obviously, you're my wedding photographer and you got our sneaks, and like I remember like I was your wedding DJ. Yeah, I wasn't. Why do you leave?

SPEAKER_03

Why did I advise this?

SPEAKER_04

Like, I think she listed.

SPEAKER_06

No, it's fine. You had Javier, right? No, I had um DJ Southpaw as like a Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, we got it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, my husband's friend from high school. We love it. So, yeah, shout out. Yeah, shout out DJ Southpaw. It would have been Trego, obviously. I had all of my we hadn't met yet, so like that's why.

SPEAKER_04

But I we're we're like kindred spirits. We didn't even talk about our Genesis story, which honestly, I was thinking about that. I don't remember how we was it that Mountain Shadows one our wedding?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, first I don't remember our first wedding together.

SPEAKER_04

Emma and and Adam.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, was that our first one?

SPEAKER_04

That's what I'm saying. Oh yeah. And then we had And you're like, You're weird like me.

SPEAKER_06

And I was like, You're weird like me. You said kind of like being each other. Do we just become best friends? Yeah, literally.

SPEAKER_04

No, like with Alli Burton. I don't bringing us together. I I can I can I gas you up for a second? Like, obviously, you're tremendously talented, which is the precursor, right? But the other thing is that um, you know, there I can gel with a lot of people, and I feel like there's a lot of people who maybe want to work with me more often who are photographers, and they just don't have the same energy. And so like the dark humor. They don't have the dark humor, they don't have we're all like, oh shit. You know what I'm saying? And like, so like, but you immediately were on my preferred vendors list.

SPEAKER_03

I hit the close friends list pretty fast.

SPEAKER_06

That's what we talked about. That was I was like, when I was like on my Instagram one day and I see like the green around, I'm like, close friends?

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Me?

SPEAKER_06

I made it. I was like, what? Me, I just like post everything. Oh my god, I give a shit. Anyone gets it?

SPEAKER_04

Let's bring it back in. So that's the benefit of content creators, yes, right? Yes, yes. But the so calling yourself a content creator and marketing yourself as that, like I would love to hear, like, what do you think is the minimum barrier of entry? I am delivering this to a client. Because I think photographers as an add-on is like, I gave my assistant their my phone and like they got some stuff. And it's like, I wouldn't do that to Carlos, I wouldn't charge anybody for what Carlos gave. You can have that for free.

SPEAKER_03

Don't just you can have that for free.

SPEAKER_04

Carlos is the best. He's a he's a baby angel, but like there's contracts. There's yeah, you probably made an LLC. Like, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, like what if what if I forgot? Like, what if my second shooter and I were so busy that we just like forgot to take more videos?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, you know, I just like so when it comes to photographers adding on content creation like packages, I don't get it. I just don't understand how you can, like you just said, perfectly deliver something that is good and that the couple deserves by doing two jobs simultaneously.

SPEAKER_03

Well, you can't add on any other services to anything else, like a wedding planner can't add on photography. Yeah. A wedding, you know, like a venue can include a DJ, but they can't just like, oh, here's a DJ for super cheap. Like you are gonna get what you get at that point. Exactly. That leads me to my every point ever is investing in the right vendors and splurging in the areas. So if you have the budget for a content creator, get a good one. Yeah, if you have the budget to get a phenomenal DJ, get a good one. If you have the money to invest in photography, that is the only lasting thing. Invest in a good one. And like there's so many horror stories right now about all of these uh vendors that are scamming people and stuff, specifically photographers. It's like look for legit businesses, police licenses, insurance, like get on a call with them, read the reviews. So it's just like when you're looking for businesses, just hire people that like you gel with, get one for each of the specific needs that you have for your wedding days, so you don't have to worry about it.

SPEAKER_06

I know just eliminate. I feel like it's like sometimes I feel like some people too. I don't know if I specifically feel like this, but like I feel like it just gets kind of like greedy, like, oh, how how much more money can I make? Like, let me add on a content package. And then it's like, I would hate for again, like you just said, for couples to not do their research and think, oh, I'm getting content, it's gonna look like XYZ. And then it's like they half-assed got it like four videos and took a photo, and they're like, Okay, here's your content. And they're like, This isn't what I wanted. 100%. So I think too, obviously, like make sure you do your research when you're finding your vendors. And I think content creation, and I'm not saying this because I am one, is a whole different niche and job in itself. Yeah, and you know, it's like these, these this is your wedding. This is something that you're never gonna want to forget. One day, and yeah, one day. And so, like, if you want that content, book an actual content creator, not book a photographer that it's adding on because it's not gonna be what I think you think it's gonna be.

SPEAKER_04

Now, would you ever want to be pulled into Terran sphere or something like that? My biggest reaction to this was like, don't fuck with people's money. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like if I bring it, like I'm in the process of starting to bring on live musicians, but they tell me what they want to make. Yep, yeah, and I will be transparent with like it's you know,$2,000 for the saxphone player, and then I add on 20% for booking.

SPEAKER_03

I'm not giving them what they're worth. Uh-huh. I don't care if they say ten thousand dollars. If your clients are paying it, they're paying it. Yeah, that's the whole thing, is like pay you get what you pay for. You really do. You gotta read the reviews, you've gotta like vet the people, get on a call with everyone. You're not on a call. Make sure you like them. You can't just be like, oh, this person has beautiful photos or this guy's got a couple cool reels. Like, I like it. Like, no, you gotta get on there. If they don't have a contract, bye-bye.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, please, for the love of God, if they have a contract. I mean, I would hate, I mean, I guess if you do have a contract and they still screw you over, you can sue them and make your money back.

SPEAKER_03

It's covering both sides. And you have to have like contracts in place, formal forms of payment. Like, how are they accepting money? If it's Venmo, not the move. Yeah, you know, like getting all of those things in order, like that's it's a serious thing. So, yes, like you don't want to mess with anybody's money. I would, if I brought you on as a package deal, you would still be getting paid your rate, and it would just be something part of the team. Yeah, you know, we're all talking about like making like package deals together. So you have you work with your friends, basically.

SPEAKER_04

That's how I feel. Like, you didn't ask this, but I would be like, cool, like if I if I if I built her into the package or a live musician or whatever, it's like they're getting their their same rate, and I will be transparent with the client of like this is what I upcharged it. Yep and if you don't like that, then go straight to them. And then I don't have any liability on whether or not Grace does a good job because we know she's gonna shit the bed. You know, I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_07

I was like, I already happily said that.

SPEAKER_03

My gosh. Well, and it's like don't make me fight you. I think selfishly, it's like I just want to work with people. One I know will give the clients a good experience. For sure. I want to work with people that I like working with because then like you just so much more fun. It's up to it. So much more fun. When Trago and I are making reels together and he's splitting his pants and we're laughing about it all day long. It's just fun. That was the last one. I commented, I said, uh I was I was there for one of these moments.

SPEAKER_06

I love that you were a part of that. Yeah, and it makes it better.

SPEAKER_03

We did. I don't I don't know if you can see the exact moment. But if we have the moment the raw edge of all of it because she meets it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I had some help. That was right with it came out on Friday and we made a music video sooner.

SPEAKER_03

We were hesitant to play it on the dance floor and it hit like nobody's business. It was good. It hit more with Ellie and I behind the DJ booth. Ellie and I'm going crazy.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, it was great with vendors. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So that's what matters. Every once in a while, you take my song request. 100%. Oh, two out of ten times. Okay. That's fair.

SPEAKER_04

The goblin wedding when I was eating the quesadillas mine. I was eating the quesadillas like a goblin. Like one of my favorite photos of the 25 people there.

SPEAKER_03

Yep. May freaking oh my mom was about to take Carlos out. Oh, yeah, with the old lady.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, who's Carlos? Do I know? He's my assistant. He's great. Okay, sorry. Carlos, love you. We love you, Carlos. I was like, who's Carlos? We love Carlos. Okay, he's loved that.

SPEAKER_04

Great.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, period. Yeah, we can't see him. No, we're here to run episodes three on the line.

SPEAKER_05

All right, and shut up. Next one. Yeah, that's the first hot take. One lasted 44 minutes. We're gonna be here for three hours.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, next up, what do you think is the ugliest wedding decor?

SPEAKER_04

I cough during her thing.

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Do you want to say it again?

SPEAKER_06

Okay, what is the ugliest wedding decor? Answer first.

SPEAKER_04

Oh bows on the back of chairs.

SPEAKER_06

You said, get out of here with these damn bows.

SPEAKER_04

I I can't indict myself, but like when I got into the industry, it was all chair covers with the chairs on the end.

SPEAKER_03

I was just like, you know what I mean? I had them at my wedding, but it's seven years? No. It was a different time. No, and that's what we're saying, and we're okay with the wedding.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, the barn really the boho barn rustic? Were you wearing boots?

SPEAKER_04

No.

SPEAKER_06

Oh I actually cannot picture you wearing boots like ever. He told you it just don't fit.

SPEAKER_03

Like, I just don't know if I can see you wearing cowboy boots. Are you kidding me? He's going to Country Thunder. No, you're not.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

No, you're not Country Thunder.

SPEAKER_06

Catchy Thunder? Catchy Thunder?

SPEAKER_04

Oh my gosh. No. I love the lineup. Okay. I know all of them.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, like you're a Yeehaw dancer? Okay, actually, wait, can we talk about something really quick before I forget? Nothing irritates me more than how like country music has or like DJs have made a line dance to modern songs. Like I heard annoys you. I hear shivers and I'm like, can I just drop it low on the floor? Why the fuck are we line dancing to this?

SPEAKER_03

Who drops it low to Ed Sheeran? That's what I need to know. If that's everybody go back to school.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, but you know what I mean. Like they do it for like every dance. And I'm like, and there's one, there's a there's a line dance for every song, and I'm just like, bro, I just want to go and shake my ass on the floor. Why are we doing a line dance for actuals? Right.

SPEAKER_04

But you like to dance. There's people who are at parties and they don't know how to dance. No, no, no, this is the dance. And they need somebody.

SPEAKER_03

This is like created.

SPEAKER_04

Like, but they get into it because they're like, and then I don't have to think. And I look at this direction, I go, cha-cha-cha, and I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_03

I've not tequila, anyone can be a good dancer.

SPEAKER_04

That's true.

SPEAKER_06

But people don't have self-confidence. Even drunk. You can't tell me a few shots of tequila doesn't give nobody self-confidence.

SPEAKER_04

There are that gives everybody self-confidence. There are people out there that you see it all. You do it. You see it all? See it all. No. And they just won't the the guys who just like, I'm too cool for those.

SPEAKER_06

Then you get the you catch them and they're kind of. I'm not a certified hater to those, but I hate that it's every song. Like, could we do like a line dance and then do it like drop it a low song? And then could we go back to a like line dance? I hate when it's the whole night, it's just like all line dances. I don't do that.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I'm saying like if you go to like wobble and shotcha slide and all of a sudden.

SPEAKER_06

I actually I feel like you know about that, right? I hate those. That makes sense. Okay. Yeah. I for I forbade them at my wedding. I love that. Do not play these. I don't want to hear that shit.

SPEAKER_03

No, well, if you see your Grace's photos, she is dropping it low.

SPEAKER_04

I love them. I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_03

You are like my soul sister. That is me on the dance floor. Oh, yeah. I'm like a hero knot. Like you put salt sugar on.

SPEAKER_06

Oh Body Bee Drop and Love. Okay, so he had said wedding bows. You're not getting out of it.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah. Okay. Ah. This is just personal preference. If you have this, it's fine. It's still beautiful and everything.

SPEAKER_06

Turns out. Don't cancel me the very next week.

SPEAKER_03

If you put red roses and sunflowers together, I die. Oh, I don't like that combo.

SPEAKER_06

I like them on their own.

SPEAKER_03

It's very common in like a lot of like the country ish weddings. Oh, yeah, no, you're right. Sunflowers at weddings just aren't my thing. Like they're happy, joyous, but like I feel like that's not a vibe. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Maybe in a field.

SPEAKER_03

Maybe if you're like out in the wilderness. Sure. And to each their own. Again, it is not my day. It's not what I chose to have. And you do whatever you want. It's your wedding, but that is just not my, that's not my favorite.

SPEAKER_06

Okay. I'm here. I I agree. I think my thing is is um like overbranding. Like when everything has like your initials on it. Okay. Like, I feel like there's just do like if do like a napkin, have your welcome table sign. We don't get a paper on top of it. I don't need that. I don't need all that shit. Like, I just feel like once it's like too much, it's like this isn't a brand trip.

SPEAKER_03

They just want to make sure that you're not going to be able to do it. They're like, wait, where are we?

SPEAKER_06

Whose wedding is this? Right. I only had the invite for a year, but like, where whose wedding is this?

SPEAKER_03

I just just never forget.

SPEAKER_06

I know. And you know what? If you want that, that's cool. I just overbranded kind of kills it for me.

SPEAKER_03

I like when people make like little logos. No, like I like that. The most outlandish thing I've ever seen in my life is that someone spent$3 an ice cube to get their little logo printed on like whiskey. Oh, like the old-fashioned, like, okay, so do you know how long it took me to get a photo of the ice cube? You're like, it would melt immediately because it was hot. It was in July. And I asked, I was like, How much were these ice cubes?$3 an ice cube. It was like a 200 person wedding. For water? For water, frozen water.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, I've also seen a trend that apparently people are trying to do like shaped butter. Shaped? Shaped butter, like at the tables.

SPEAKER_03

If it's edible or gonna melt, just don't.

SPEAKER_06

Like it's like uh yeah, if you have like a theme or whatever. Like money? I saw like I saw like a seashell, so like maybe like a beach theme wedding, but like people are spending extra money to get shaped butter.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, if you're gonna spend money on shaped butter. Now I'm gonna start.

SPEAKER_04

I'm gonna snap to that YouTube video of that poor girl being like, uh, it's the wedding industry, too. I actually got it right. Wait, like with the butter. With low butter?

SPEAKER_03

If you're gonna get some shaped butter, you better invest in some nice ass chairs. Because if you have some busted ass white folding chairs, but you got shaped butter, that's when yeah, I think burnt me up, Perry.

Black Tie Means The Full Experience

SPEAKER_06

Yes, yes. I think we need to talk about that. Is like also when people are like, hey guys, it's black tie, and then you pull up and it's like a fucking backyard wedding, and there's like fold chairs.

SPEAKER_03

I'm like, okay, you having the guests, they're buried on the floor. YJ talked about this, and it's like, if you're going to say that it's black tie, you have to give them the black tie experience. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_06

But I feel like people try to like compensate, they're like, oh, well, if everyone's dressed nice and we're in my grandma's backyard. That's semi-formal.

SPEAKER_03

That's a semi-formal.

SPEAKER_06

But people do that.

SPEAKER_03

But if you're gonna say it's straight up black tie when you want people dressed to the nines, yes, like you wanna go for a night out. Like, yeah, you want to be like the whole experience. Yeah, for sure. I need to be served champagne on entrance.

SPEAKER_04

We could do a whole podcast on it. We really could. That it pisses me off. Oh, yeah. That like people are like, I expect you to drag clean your tucks and be here, and then it's suddenly like, I'm in gravel, I'm in gravel right now. Really? He said, the hell. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's just like it doesn't look the juxtaposition, it doesn't look cool. Yeah, it's not it, you look crazy. You know what also makes me mad is when it's black tie in a tropical location.

SPEAKER_06

Oh no. That's actually jail time. That's sweat-centric. That's not fair. Penguin suits in the tropical. Oh, is penguin suits like the black and white. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

No, I like that. I was just like, wait. But it's like you were stuck to your suit at that point. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Crazy. It better be like it better be like Hawaiian shirt and some. Well, like a tan. I love a tan. Oh, the linen pants, like a lake. With like a crochet, like, oh, my husband wears that outfit. I'm like, Oh, let's go. Let's go.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

But I feel like that would be the vibe. Like, you can't. Oh, that would be the vibe, not black tie. Okay, thank you. All right. Gotta move it. On to the next one.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, then one more thing.

SPEAKER_05

I love that.

SPEAKER_04

No, I want, please add more. Yes. If you, if I show up, and listen, I I'm the sound guy. I I just want to make sure that you can. You're very cool.

SPEAKER_06

I'm over here on my kid, just play the music. Yeah, push the button. Trying to push a button. Just push the buttons. That's what I was playing. Push a button.

SPEAKER_04

But if you if you I'm in a tuxedo and the linens aren't to the ground, I'm gonna freak out. Ooh. I'm gonna freak out. No, that's good. That's valid.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so the wedding? The wedding thing were supposed to work with me in Sedona?

SPEAKER_04

Correct.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so I walked.

SPEAKER_04

Because my wife got sick and not because Yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_03

No, it wasn't anything crazy. Yes. So preface, it was, it was a medical emergency. There was no reason he was. On the last one.

SPEAKER_04

Sorry, no, I didn't. That last one was not true.

SPEAKER_03

Walked into the reception area and the linens are like halfway. And the coordinator was she was like shocked because it was under the assumption that they were gonna go all the way to the floor. Yeah, I covered it. This was a five-star resort high-end venue.

SPEAKER_04

Not accepted.

SPEAKER_03

And the chairs busted white, not cleaned, not at all. And no floor. Oh yeah. And no floor-length linens. And it was just like I walked in, I'm like, you cannot tell me that you charge this much to not even provide a floor-length linen.

SPEAKER_06

I'm gonna crash out. Yeah, I was also do your research again. If you are paying for if I if I walked into my wedding and I saw that shit, I'd be like, I'm getting half my money back, girl. Like immediately. That's insane.

SPEAKER_04

That's crazy. You didn't tell me that part. Because it got worse after that. But that's another time, too.

SPEAKER_06

Oh no, no.

SPEAKER_04

I'm scared. This is all voice memo action. Literally. And then Triangle Blog is a good voice memo. We like a voice memo.

SPEAKER_06

Honestly, I do because I literally hate texting. Like I literally want texting to just never.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, because I don't have time to text. We don't have time. Five seconds later, my kids are gonna need something, and the train has left the station. I really need to.

SPEAKER_06

I I just cannot text ever. It needs to just be done with. Are we in 2026? Like I feel like robots.

SPEAKER_03

It's like the hybrid in between calling and texting. Yeah, we're gonna be.

SPEAKER_06

You know, yeah, no, I'd love a good phone call.

SPEAKER_04

Ow. The agency of a like, okay, so you have two kids and they're running around and they're screaming their pink. You gotta be ready for who's being boys are different, right? My kids are trained. You know what I mean? Kids are trained. That's wild. So, like, so all that's happening, and you call her, and you're basically saying to her, I am the most important thing that's happening in your life right now. And it's like, no, you just gotta be well prepared for the chaos. Oh, the voice memo? No, no, no. No, if you call me. If you call. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. If it's time sensitive, call me. Yes, yes. I'm not a monster.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

If it's like, if it's like sentence, do not get triggered started. You know what I mean? Yes. I get it. Yes, no, I get it. But the voice memo's nice because it's a personal touch. It can be your voice. And then you can't get like, you know, like text can be read wrong. And I'm like, are you being peached right now? But in a voice memo, you know, imaginated. You know. Yeah, you know if I'm gonna fight someone. I don't know. I know. And in a voice memo, you can't do that.

SPEAKER_04

That's a good no better form of communication. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03

We're all in the era of good communication. Yep, please. And Florida linen.

Voice Memos And Communication Etiquette

SPEAKER_06

And please, and nobody. Yeah. I'm dead. Okay. Next thing biggest wedding ick. If you don't have one, I already have mine in mind. Let's hear yours.

SPEAKER_04

I just burned mine.

SPEAKER_02

You just burned yours?

SPEAKER_06

What was the last question? Oh, yes. Oh. Keep going. Oh, yeah, true. Um, so probably my biggest wedding ick is when men wear sunglasses during the ceremony. Okay. I just, it's it's your wedding. Why are you wearing sunglasses? The photos. I just think it looks tacky, in my personal opinion. I that's actually really fair. Yeah. Yeah, I just feel like this is your wedding. Even if it's not like black tie, like, why are you wearing sunglasses?

SPEAKER_03

Well, the ceremony is the one thing I can't change anything about. That's what I'm saying. In a in a formal photo, I can be like, oh, pockets, blah, blah, blah, this or this, and this. Yeah, you can be like, take off your phone. During the ceremony, what I'm excuse me, just pause real quick. Like, I can't do that. You know? So it's like, if if that's the yeah, I can I just I don't love it.

SPEAKER_06

I don't think it looks good. Like, I just don't like it.

SPEAKER_04

No, I totally agree with you. I just don't love it.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know what my biggest wedding ick is. There's a couple of things that really bug me. And it's when the bridal party walks in looking at the floor. Like, stop doing that. Look up, smile. You are you are on camera. Like, give me your eyeballs. You know, you're in the bridal party.

SPEAKER_04

Give me a little reception or down the aisle?

SPEAKER_03

Down the aisle. Oh, yeah. You're like, I'm trying to get good. Okay, here's here's my biggest wedding ick. Have you ever heard that one?

SPEAKER_04

Bush to bush?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Oh wait, are you saying during photos?

SPEAKER_03

Like, where did we just go? Not the bush to bush.

SPEAKER_04

She goes, bush to bush.

SPEAKER_03

Oh I say nickel the shoulder blade. So like when I'm getting them in a formal photo, I'm sorry. I feel like that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_06

I feel like I've heard I've heard some other things. I'm trying to remember, but I've like been out and I'm just like, what?

SPEAKER_03

So like if the guys aren't listening, I I know because obviously I have two boys. Yeah. That you and a husband, right? You know? We have those. You just you have to say something to catch their attention. Oh, yeah. So if I'm getting them all lined up to take the group photos, okay, nipple the shoulder blade, and they're like, oh, what? And then they start doing it. And I'm like, perfect, you're still listening. You're like, great. Have you? Okay, biggest wedding ick is if your bridal party is bad energy. That is the worst. Like, this is a lot of money on a wedding day, right? We're not spending$10 on anything. Yep. If your bridal party, if you're a chosen one, and you do not bring an extensive level of hype, you're fired.

SPEAKER_06

Especially during the grand entrance. I feel like I've seen ones and they're just like, yeah. And I'm like, are we 45? Like, let's go. Like, let's like hype it up.

SPEAKER_03

The bridesmaids that get annoyed that the bride asks for something. Like, hello. This is your princess day. Yeah. She is our queen for the day. Yeah. She's my queen. She's your queen. Yeah. If you aren't good enough friends with her to get her a water when she asks for one and she's putting you out, bye. Right. This is our queen. This is my, you know, my my couples are my babies. Yeah. Like, so anyone that is like going to ruin their peace or their hype or anything for the day and they're not bringing the energy. Someone hold my camera. I will bring the energy.

SPEAKER_04

Like you're really good on that. You know, one thing that is kind of a wedding ick is when vendors talk poorly about the couple behind their back.

SPEAKER_06

That is awful. T. I also love my people. They're like, they're like, I think.

SPEAKER_04

You're really good about shutting that shit down. I've seen you. Well, and we're and we're on to the positive.

SPEAKER_03

And in other words, shut the fuck up because they think. And in other words, no one wants your opinion.

SPEAKER_04

But you're really, she's also really good. She'll be, as you know, she will text them for a year before I don't have that in my body. You can talk to me eight weeks out.

SPEAKER_03

I love it though. Well, okay, so like I said, my couples are like my biggest. Well, you do like engagement photos, like you're like to know your life story, you know. Like, I get I get the ins and outs. And like I think that's kind of why, like, when I show up on a wedding day, I'm like, nobody interrupt my couple's peace because you will have to deal with me. And it's not, I'm not just showing up to photograph, like with my besties, dude. Like, we're gonna have a party.

Nightmare Clients And Shot List Stress

SPEAKER_04

No, you aren't. Quick question. Would you rather, for both of you, would you rather a couple or a client be a nightmare through the wedding process and then lovely on the day of, or lovely through the planning process and then a nightmare? To me, yes, all of the above.

SPEAKER_03

Planning process, and then they're lovely on the day.

SPEAKER_06

I was gonna say, yeah, I would rather have the day go smoothly than it be opposite, because then my vibe just goes. When I like feel like they're I'm like, ugh, I'm like, are you happy and you hate me? I don't know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Like, I would rather a couple be like weirdly off in their emails, yeah, and like their texts are kind of like, I don't know where we're at here. Yeah. But honestly, I don't run into that very much because like you know what you're getting when you book me. I'm a loud, obnoxious, big personality. Like a lot of times people are like, Oh, we're camera shy. I'm like, no, you're not.

SPEAKER_02

You said not for me.

SPEAKER_03

You said, eh, but yeah, I mean, I think I think leading up to it if you're had that though, I've had that in every permutation.

SPEAKER_04

And you're right, it is better when it's like you walk into it and you're like, this might kind of suck. And then they're lovely, and you're like And then you're happy, it's a surprise.

SPEAKER_06

You're like, perfect. And you're like, we're great.

SPEAKER_04

But the opposite is terrible. Oh, yeah. Where you're like, yeah, yeah, I guess I'll get back to your playlist exclusively. I guess we didn't talk about me not being an iPad, but okay, cool, great. You're not you're not an iPad.

SPEAKER_06

You don't pre-record.

SPEAKER_04

I can if you want me to.

SPEAKER_06

I can if you want to.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, yeah, I just if if it's weird, like I've had couples that just are horrible with communication and like take like three weeks to reply to my emails. And I will chase you a little bit, but I'm also gonna give you your space. So as long as I show up on the wedding day and we can have a good time, and like you're not just like you know, like just let let go, have fun. It's only it's only one day. If you spend the whole day stressing, like you just ruined your own day.

SPEAKER_06

No, and I was gonna say, that's actually, I mean, I guess not a wedding ick, but like I hate when like couples like ruin their own day.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

I'm just like, let us enjoy it. Let it go. Gives an F. Go drink your signature cocktail, drop it on the floor, right? Enjoy it. Screw what everyone else thinks. Oh my god, we didn't get this one vote. Who gives a shit? Yeah, like you're there to enjoy your day and enjoy it.

SPEAKER_03

To piggyback off of that, when I ask my couples for a shot list, it's just their family combos. Yeah. Don't give me anything else because I want to capture your day how it is. And then if you guys are like vibing and the sun's great, just let me do my thing.

SPEAKER_04

Like let me do it. Oh, so some people are like, uh, if we could touch temples and they like pose themselves and shit.

SPEAKER_03

Every once in a while I'll get like a like an inspo thing, and they're like, But all of my couples, like, I love it. And this is something that I've just kind of like over time have built my business to where I get the couples that are just like, I trust you, love it, let's do it. But when it was the earlier days, they would send me like an exact shot list. I want this photo, like this person doing this with me. I'm sorry, this doing this and this was like very exact. And I'm like, if you give someone an exact play play by play of what you want your day to look like, you're gonna be so stressed out about making sure those things happen versus take a shot at tequila and chill out. Who cares if the linens were a sage versus an olive? Like, yeah, who cares? Yeah, it is what it is. And those are fun stories to tell. Yeah, we ran out of food at my wedding. Oh I saved money on my caterer. Oh, because I when I was 24 and I didn't know anything. Now, knowing what I know, yeah, like trust me. Literally. We ran out of food at the end, and the last two tables that finally did get food were so trash, they were the best on the dance floor.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, yeah. They're like, we have no food in our system. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah, it was great. You need an app, you're good.

SPEAKER_03

I had a fantastic DJ, and that was that was that's all I needed.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, sorry, Drago.

unknown

I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_06

It was seven years ago. I didn't even know.

SPEAKER_03

Uh, in um Experience Entertainment.

SPEAKER_04

Are they still around? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, they do more like well, they do more like events and stuff. But they went to or my husband.

SPEAKER_04

You had a good experience?

SPEAKER_03

I had a great experience. Shout out to Experience Entertainment, Scott Austin. That's awesome. Yeah, no, well, my husband went to high school with him and he built up his business like big time. And that was everything I told Jake. I was like, I have to have, which is kind of funny, it was the opposite. I have to have a good videographer. Videography was the most important thing to me. Oh. I wanted to look back at the video and I watch it every year. And then um, DJ, because I'm a dancer. Yep. I am a dancer through and through. You put on a little beat, mm-mm. So it like needed to, it needed to be. If I knew you. No, no, no, no, no, no. This is a safe song. This is a safe song. If I knew if I knew now, if I knew then what I knew, yeah, that what I was saying.

SPEAKER_04

It sounded like it was a good experience. I'm not the only good DJ out there.

SPEAKER_03

I know. Yeah. So it's great.

SPEAKER_04

I'm glad you found another one of them.

SPEAKER_03

I'm glad, I'm glad there's a few other good ones out there. God forbid. What were you doing seven years ago? I was here. You were you on your own? No. Okay. I was working for a bigger company.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Wouldn't have found you.

SPEAKER_06

It wouldn't have worked. Okay, did you say yours, your wedding ink?

SPEAKER_04

I I just agree with you guys. Okay. I'd like to move on.

unknown

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_06

He's like, I'm not gonna get canceled. I'm tiptoeing. He's like, don't give me screen. Oh, I'm just kidding. Okay, um, your opinion on audio guestbooks.

Audio Guestbooks Get Roasted

SPEAKER_05

Where are you going? He's exiting the premises. I want to know your opinion, Trago.

SPEAKER_04

You should have read this before. Hey, I do like to preface.

SPEAKER_06

They they knew what was was gonna happen. So I had a list of possible questions. And they were sent a few days ago. So, Trago, you had time. I had time to prepare. You had time. No, yes, here it is.

SPEAKER_04

The joy, the joy of a podcast is winged. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Yeah, I think it's a great way to waste money.

SPEAKER_05

I was like, you better not lie.

SPEAKER_04

I think not a lot of people do them, and I think the quality of the experience, the quality of the product that you get out of it is mid. So it looks cute, right?

SPEAKER_03

Like it's a cute, it's a cute thing to do.

SPEAKER_04

But like, okay, question.

SPEAKER_03

It's what do you what do you do with it? You get like an audio, like a voice message?

SPEAKER_04

What do you do with it, Taryn?

SPEAKER_06

I don't know. I think it goes on like a USB.

SPEAKER_04

When you go on your computer and you pull up iTunes and you listen to an MP3, it's not on Spotify. It's not it's coming up on Shuffle when you plug in your computer and then like some random file comes on and hey guys, it's Aunt Packy.

SPEAKER_02

I really think. No, no, no. Oh god.

SPEAKER_03

Lord have mercy. I mean, I feel like it's I honestly have never even thought about like it's cute to pick it up. I've left one or two on the thing, but then I've I've literally have never had any other thought process of where it goes.

SPEAKER_05

It just goes into the abyss. It just floats.

SPEAKER_03

I think I would have lit about it.

SPEAKER_04

There's a little bit more to the background of the story of why I just laugh that hard, but you're a hundred percent on the money. I mean, what you gonna do with that?

SPEAKER_03

I like the picture, and then you sign it, and then you hang it up on your or you don't. Uh, mine's in my garage.

SPEAKER_06

Honestly, I did a regular guest book and I haven't looked at it since we got married.

SPEAKER_03

We haven't in the we have ours in the garage too. It's a great place. In the garage. And you're like, oh, well, it says on the thing, one of one person signed on mine was like, argue naked. I'm not putting that shit on my walls. My kids are gonna look at it and be like, argue naked. Like, yeah, that's what we do. Okay, yep. That's how we got together. That's how we're seven years in.

SPEAKER_06

He said, Oh, that is the key to a happy marriage, just arguing with naked. You can't be mad. It's really not. Don't do that. You're like abort, abort.

SPEAKER_03

How do you stay mad when you're when you're naked? Yeah. Because then you're just gonna start laughing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

True. And then we know what happens after that. Oh, see?

SPEAKER_05

This is why we're two pieces in a modern year.

Bridesmaids Versus Moms Versus Groomsmen

SPEAKER_06

Stop. I can't. Okay, so audio guest books will know. So, okay, next question. Who's worse? Moms. Moms, bridesmaids, or groomsmen.

SPEAKER_03

Do you want to go first? Do you want to make a goal?

SPEAKER_06

It always depends. I mean, it does depend. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I feel like that's fair. If you have to.

SPEAKER_06

If I have to if you have to pick, who's always most like okay. The ones that cause the most trouble are the bridesmaids. That's what I was gonna say, like the bridal party. Because they're just like chaotic, okay, again, everywhere.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, if you don't bring the good energy, yeah. Like this day, you should one be just focused on having a good time. There are there's no stress. If you're in the bridal party, nothing bothers you. You don't get annoyed. All of a sudden, for this one day, I don't care if you're having the worst day of your life, you're at the house. You do not have the capability of being annoyed, stressed out, not getting on the dance floor. Like you just are the you're in Disneyland, okay? This is your Disneyland. And even if you're not, and it's the worst day ever, you pretend you're in Disneyland. It's just that's your job as a bridal party member. I agree. Uh, the bridesmaids, every once in a while, be like complaining about the anything. Anything.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, they will find anything. It's the pit bull energy. The I've got to protect the bride from XYZ. I know how to go. You're just having fun.

SPEAKER_03

I will be the pit bull. I will protect bridesmaids. And also too, like, they're there. You they need to remember like bomb.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, can't wait to do.

SPEAKER_06

Um, but the bridesmaids and grimsmen, they're there to have fun too. So it's like obviously protect the like the couple, but like that's also what the vendors are there for. Yes. Like, let you guys do your thing.

SPEAKER_03

My biggest we'll protect them. If the bride started to get stressed out, uh-uh. I'm not talking about. Do you see how hot you look? Like, I shouldn't have to say that, although I do. Yeah. The bridesmaids should be like, mm-mm, mm-mm. We're not stressed.

SPEAKER_04

You should market that.

SPEAKER_03

What?

SPEAKER_04

That's it. Part of your package. It's very authentic. Do you want to do that? I'm marketing it.

SPEAKER_05

What? She's like, I have a great time. You should.

SPEAKER_03

When I've had more time to do reels and stuff, see, this is what you need to come. You need to come do a content day. Yeah, we're gonna do it. When I'm shooting, you be good at it.

SPEAKER_06

We're gonna do, we're gonna do a vlog too.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, the things that I say, I know firsthand. I just say some dumbass things, but it works.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

No, not even real. That's authentic good stuff. So side note the biggest compliment you could give me, uh literally ever, uh, is telling me I'm funny. Me too. If you tell me I'm funny, I don't need to be pretty in this life. I don't need to be anything. If you tell me I'm funny, you're like, we can wrap it up. It just became a balloon. Yes. Because I think I'm hilarious.

SPEAKER_05

Fuck yeah. Yeah. I think I'm funny. You're funny.

SPEAKER_03

So when I get compliments, like at weddings, every once in a while, I'll get like a family member, a bridal party. You know what? You're funny. And I'm like, I go home to Jake. See? See I'm funny. You're lucky that you got this, okay? Because I'm in your library. Like, I mean, he's seen me through all of my phases. Yeah. And there's it's it's it's funny.

SPEAKER_05

I look back at myself and I'm like, she's a wild dumbass. Oh, yeah. Love it.

Part Two Tease And Goodbye

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. So if you tell me I'm funny. Exactly. I love that. Okay. So the vlog. Okay. Yeah, which was gonna come. If I don't get a you're funny, comment. Oh, yeah. I need it, I need it filled. I'll just wither away to nothing. You're like, uh, you're like, we gotta go. No, just kidding. Okay, you guys, we have a lot of more questions, so we're gonna wrap it up. And you guys need to come back for part two. And you're watching, and you're watching the wedding high podcast. Bye.

SPEAKER_04

Bye.

unknown

Bye.