053 - Wedding Vendor Red Flags

Your wedding doesn’t need more “cute” details. It needs better decisions. We’re back with Part 2 and we’re getting brutally honest about what separates a smooth, fun wedding day from one that feels chaotic, awkward, or weirdly expensive.

We talk through the red flags we can hear on a booking call when a couple doesn’t even seem to like each other, then move into the wedding trends people keep copying without thinking. Merch tables can be a win if they’re actually wearable, but we’d rather you put that money toward the vendors who shape the entire experience. We lay out our real wedding budget priorities: a planner or day-of coordinator who protects your peace, a professional wedding photographer (and videography or a content creator if it fits) because memories are the one thing that lasts, and a DJ who can run the flow, cues, transitions, and backups so the party never dies.

Then we hit the guest experience landmines: lounge setups that give people an excuse to leave, activities that pull guests away from the dance floor, and why glass near dancing is a hard no. We debate guest dress codes, share a spicy take on satin bridesmaid dresses, and give ceremony tips your officiant will thank you for, like directing guests to stand and getting out of the first kiss shot.

We also go deep on vendor meals, breaks, and payment expectations, plus the behind-the-scenes reality of vendor relationships, jealousy, and impostor syndrome in the wedding industry. Finally, we pivot into real marriage life: location sharing, joint bank accounts, and the budget talks couples avoid until it’s too late. If this helped, subscribe, share it with a newly engaged friend, and leave us a review with your hottest wedding take.

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Transcript

Couple Red Flags On Booking Calls

SPEAKER_03 0:00

Hey Queens, welcome back to part two of Taryn and Trago's episode from last week. We hope you loved all of the unhinged stuff we brought for you. And we're gonna continue because we love to talk and yep. So it needed to be a part two.

SPEAKER_04 0:12

Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_03 0:14

Okay, we're gonna get right into it. Um, what's a red flag when couples first book?

SPEAKER_00 0:20

Or what makes you be like it doesn't seem like they like each other. Oh 100%.

SPEAKER_04 0:24

Like on a call, you can get that?

SPEAKER_00 0:26

Oh, absolutely. Like you get that. If they're bickering, if they're if it is a date that I think I can rebook, I am unfortunately no longer available. Okay. I've done it a couple of times.

SPEAKER_03 0:36

Honestly, I think that's valid because it's like, how's the wedding gonna go? If you like literally hate each other, you're probably gonna get divorced next year.

SPEAKER_00 0:43

Resentment, it's gonna bubble up otherwise. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 0:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 0:46

I for well, not the couple specifically, but like if on a call, we just just aren't vibing and it's just kind of stale conversation. Like, as you've seen in part one, I am not hard to talk to. Yeah, and I'm funny. But like I try to like really show that energy because like if this is something that you vibe with, like we would have a great time. For sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:08

But if it's hard to like, yeah, like you're trying to be, you know, or if you're more excited about the day than them, that would be an issue.

SPEAKER_04 1:16

If I'm more excited about working with the couple, and like I obviously am gonna sell myself and be like, hey, this is why you should work with me, because I'm gonna take care of you. You obviously have seen my work, read some reviews, the cute and then but yeah, but if I'm giving more energy and I'm more excited about it, and that kind of goes in the inquiry forum too. Hi, we're looking for photos. Oh hi.

SPEAKER_03 1:41

Hey, how are you? When you're a server and you walk up and you're like, hey, and then Diet Coke. I'm like, fuck you. That's what I used to want to say to people.

SPEAKER_04 1:51

I'm just like, okay, I'll be right back. Oh yeah, that's the best. Diet Coke, gotcha. How's your day going? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:00

Do we all used to serve?

SPEAKER_04 2:01

Oh yeah. That's what sounds. So I think that's what really I think every person, this is a tangent. Um, every person should be a server. That's how you learn to talk to people. That's good communication, multitasking skills, dealing with the people that the way I can handle any family member ever, oh yeah, serving.

SPEAKER_03 2:18

Oh yeah. And also it's crazy to me when I used to serve, like how I would feel like I would serve so many people. I'm like, is it your first day on planet Earth? Like people have no social awareness, like, or anything. I'm just like, I don't you say hi to someone, you say hi back. Right, right, right, right. It's not that hard.

SPEAKER_04 2:32

I miss those like work dreams though. We're in the middle and I'm over nightmares, and I'm like, fuck, I forgot the ranch. Yep. Oh, I forgot the ranch.

SPEAKER_03 2:39

I know. Those will always traumatize.

SPEAKER_04 2:41

But now I have those.

SPEAKER_03 2:42

I forgot to edit that photo. Right, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_05 2:45

Yeah, for sure.

Merch Tables And Smart Wedding Spending

SPEAKER_03 2:46

Okay, perfect. Okay, okay, next one. Okay, merch tables at weddings.

SPEAKER_00 2:54

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_03 2:55

So the a new trend is couples having like I am assuming almost as favors, it's like a merch stand. If it's cute.

SPEAKER_00 3:03

Oh, if it's cute. So are we buying them?

SPEAKER_03 3:06

No. No, it's free. So basically the couples will do like personalized hats. Yeah, make it into an activity.

SPEAKER_00 3:11

Yeah, throw it out.

SPEAKER_04 3:12

One of my couples did a t-shirt t-shirt topic.

SPEAKER_03 3:14

We just had a wedding, yeah, last week they did that. But make it cute.

SPEAKER_04 3:18

Like either either get it on like big sizes so that you know, I like sleep shirts, like jig baggy shirts I can sleep in. Yeah, true. Or if you're gonna do something like a hat, like make it something you could wear again. Like just your initials and whatever. But like make it something you can wear again. The biggest thing, I guess this is also somewhere you could save money, is when you're getting your bridal party gifts, like please get them something they can wear again. No, because you're just wasting money on a friggin' robe that they're never gonna use.

SPEAKER_00 3:41

100%. But this also brings up a bigger topic that we had in the last week's episode, which was definitely shot last week. Um, is that it's an illusion. I think we're making a really good point, though, about like doubling down on a really good photographer or a really good content creator or a really good DJ. And then if there's money left over, then do that, do the merch force. Do all that. Get your three dollar ice cubes, like whatever. But like, don't come at us and being like, oh my gosh, it's great. It's so expensive. And like somebody recently was like, hey, just so you know, they're gonna ask, like, why you're so much money. And I was like, should I break out a chart and talk about supply and demand? I mean, right.

SPEAKER_04 4:25

Yeah, and it's just like you either want me or you don't.

SPEAKER_00 4:27

And you're either broke or sure.

SPEAKER_04 4:29

So I this is like I talked about it on my Instagram the other day because I'm just like, I'm getting tired of people being like, I want a vend this vendor that's not an arm and a leg. Well, first of all, we don't accept that form of payment. And second of all, there are three to four areas that you in my mind, especially after being a bride, you just cannot go cheap on. There isn't there's areas. If you're already spending that much money, why wouldn't you? Well, so there's four things that you should absolutely be non-negotiable. These are our wiggle room areas. If we find the right person we are spending more on and it's wedding planner, who the hell wants extra stress on your day? You should not be worrying about your family.

SPEAKER_03 5:04

Matter like at least a day of coordinator if you can spend it.

SPEAKER_04 5:07

Somebody that you have done at least a six-month out call, three-month out call with them, and they know the vision. They're setting up things, they're handling it. Again, making sure that they align with your vision. For sure. They are trust you trust that they'll do a good job, show up and nail it. Because why why stress? So, number two, photographer. That's your only thing that you're getting. That's the only keepsake you have of your day. When you are done, flowers are dead, the party favors are gone, your dress is trashed, nothing stays. Yep. Your photos do. This is the stuff that you're gonna have for years and years. So it if the photographer get on a call with them, if they do not have license insurance, you know, uh charging, like and payment forms are the proper way, they don't have contracts and you don't get on the call and you're not like super stoked about them, like moving on. So when you're looking for a photographer, you yes, have a budget. Obviously, we love a budget, but have wiggle room there so that if you get on multiple calls, you're like, okay, this is what we would like to spend. But we fell in love with her and you're like, this is exactly what we want. Love the style, love the art. I trust her. We're gonna nail it. This is what I want my photos to look like. And then also a little another side tangent is looking at like versus like. If you're looking at somebody's photos and they're an organ photographer and they're in the forest and whatever, but you're getting married on a golf course, your photos are gonna look very different. Like you need to be looking by somebody, like it doesn't have to be the exact same venue because a lot of times, even if your vendor hasn't shot at your photographer hasn't shot at the exact venue you're getting married at, most of the time that allows them to be more creative because they're gonna find different areas and stuff. So that's not a deterrent. However, if you're looking at somebody that shoots in a completely different climate, color, you know, we have a lot of sun here. So looking at like versus like, looking at greens and skin tones and that kind of stuff, like that is so important. So finding somebody you love, that's that should be a non-negotiable. We have wiggle room here. Screw the ice cubes, invest in your photos and your lifelong memories. Number three, well, so two is also videography. If you have the budget for videography, people are like, I do I need a video and I'm not gonna look at it. Like you do, yeah. It's really special and to like be able to see the motion and stuff. Photos are amazing. That's what you're gonna print on your wall, but video brings you back. So that's number two collectively. Number three, absolutely, hands down, is a DJ. Not because I'm biased, but like that's your party. And if you hire a lame ass DJ, like you That's half of the wedding. That's your entire basically your entire wedding. Are your songs being played on time for your ceremony? Are they playing the right songs? Like, are their cues on point? Is the volume good? Did they get the unwritten hype song coming back down the aisle like perfectly? So where you're like hyped up. A lot of times it's like Mr. and Mrs.

SPEAKER_03 7:48

And then it's not playing still.

SPEAKER_04 7:49

And I crave pause and pause, and it's like, no, it was supposed to be like the canon moment of like, yes, you know, and then going into dinner, are the tables released? Like it's it's the whole flow. It's more than just the dance floor party, which is huge. Yeah. If I go to a wedding, yeah, transitions, audio, equipment. If something goes wrong, can they handle it? Like, do they have backup gear? Do they know, do they know their gear well enough to be like, yeah, okay, this went wrong, boom, boom, boom. Like, you know, obviously things happen, but that is like your experience. Your photographer is gonna capture it all and have your memories, and your DJ is the memory. Yeah. So if you're not investing there, like I agree. If Uncle Steve or stepdad Tom is doing it, and dear lord. No, just no. DJ, photographer, wedding planner. I don't know, fourth, I guess, is the video. So any sort of like coverage that you have. Content creator, yeah, content creator, like literally any any any sort of wedding content creator, follow me, fuck me. Literally$100 off, you're one of my brides. Yep. So any anything that is going to capture memories and keep that, that's an investment. Totally agree. Don't skimp out on your party and don't skimp out on somebody that's not legit to capture it.

Non Negotiable Vendors For Great Weddings

SPEAKER_03 9:03

Oh, yeah. You know what? You know what, Hill Yeah. Okay, we both said red flags, merge tables. Okay, wedding sense. Have you seen this?

SPEAKER_00 9:16

Do we feel like it's unnecessary? I don't know if it makes sense. No, it's not my favorite. I don't care.

SPEAKER_04 9:23

Yeah. I don't even think it has anything to do with you unless you're blasting cologne in your face.

SPEAKER_00 9:27

Yeah.

Wedding Scents And Why Favors Flop

SPEAKER_04 9:27

Yeah. If I get some free, nice cologne perfume, yeah, do it. I I brought that up to Jake the other day and I was like, yeah, what do you think about this? He was like, like, do it. Why would you get it? Why? But it's he didn't understand what I was saying. I think it's cool. Like if you want to have a different perfume for the day.

SPEAKER_03 9:44

Well, yeah, no, I think no, like that, yes, but I'm saying like a wedding scent. Like there's couples who have like, like I've seen one where they made a candle and that was like everyone's gift, and they had the candles going the whole time, so it was their wedding scent. Okay, so I'm not saying like bridegroom, I'm with those. Like two. I misunderstood this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:02

First of all, I am very fragrant sensitive.

SPEAKER_00 10:05

Oh, so you're like, I feel like it only would go poorly.

SPEAKER_04 10:08

Yeah. I feel like it just terrifies you. Everyone's got their own preferences on scents, you know. Like, I don't like certain things. There's this one cologne that I'm like, if I smell it, I'm like, eh. You know, it's just it's bad. Um, but yeah, I don't know. If there's one area to save money on, and it's not one of the three things, four things I listed. It is wedding favors. Everybody is going to forget them. I hate them. I've talked about those. I think they're a fat waste of money. Save your money. Get your bridal party a really cool gift.

SPEAKER_03 10:37

Invest in badass vendors. Everyone gets dropped. Like, I'd rather have an experience, I'd rather open bar than get a a favor. Bring in the cannoli guy.

SPEAKER_04 10:46

I would rather have a cannoli on the dance floor. I had him have my one.

SPEAKER_02 10:50

Yep. Shut up, cannoli calling. Cannoli's my mic before you blow up. You're literally popping off. And I'm like, I don't even want to know how much he charges that.

SPEAKER_04 11:02

Over a wedding favor. Yeah. I will forget it.

SPEAKER_03 11:05

They gotta go. And then you're stuck. Everyone gets drunk and everyone leaves and forgets it. And it's like, no one took my stuff. No one gives a shit. No one wants your favor that they're gonna throw in the trash.

SPEAKER_00 11:14

And you're just sad, you're spritzing yourself. I'll listen to your audiobook.

SPEAKER_02 11:20

But not the audio guest book.

Lounge Sets And Keeping The Dance Floor Full

SPEAKER_03 11:22

No, please. Oh man. Yeah. Okay, so we're gonna explain those. Goodbye. Yeah, no favors. We've talked about this um on the podcast, not with you guys, but how do you feel about lounge sets? I hate them.

SPEAKER_00 11:37

Oh, you mean like um this? But like around the dance floor and stuff like that?

SPEAKER_04 11:42

Yeah, like cocktail hour. Because grandma can sit there and watch everyone like gyrate all over the place. I think that's fine.

SPEAKER_00 11:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 11:49

Everybody's missing the plot. Thank you. What do we have random ass furniture at your wedding for? I don't get it.

SPEAKER_04 11:56

Wait, why?

SPEAKER_03 11:57

But then again, I think it's a waste. No one's unless you're old. Why aren't you sitting at your reception chair?

SPEAKER_00 12:02

That's the only time I think it's appropriate. I will be practical about this. You it will give you something to shoot.

SPEAKER_03 12:07

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 12:08

Oh, T. So we will always be at odds about this. I think it's a waste of money. I don't, it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_04 12:15

I think it's functional because like when I'm 90, I want to be like thinking that I'm out there. I probably will still be out there.

SPEAKER_00 12:21

But literally.

SPEAKER_02 12:22

Literally. Me and my cane.

SPEAKER_04 12:24

Okay. But I mean, like, it's it's kind of a cozy place to sit. But you have to position them right. Like, if they're outside, you're giving people an excuse to leave your party.

SPEAKER_03 12:32

Leave the party.

SPEAKER_04 12:33

Anytime there's an excuse to leave the party, it's not allowed for me. Oh, that's a good one. I don't like it. I don't like it. Because if I have to chase, if there's cornhole boards and stuff outside, you're literally giving people an excuse to leave the party. And the whole, at least in my mind, you're gonna spend the money on a good DJ, get their boots. Okay, also, and I know you know this, or that you would agree with this. If you want to have a killer dance floor, then your bootties need to be on there. Bride and groom, your guests will follow wherever you go. If you're outside playing court hall, that's where all your guests are gonna go. If you want to be having a good ass dance floor, dance floor lit, you gotta be there. Yeah, they're gonna gravitate right there towards you.

SPEAKER_00 13:13

We had this whole big segment, I think. The first time I was on. I was like, tell me about cold sparks, tell me about discomfort. Yeah, you can keep all of that. Just stay out on the dance floor, don't have your bar outside, you know, blah blah blah blah. Yeah, everything.

SPEAKER_04 13:26

So if you want a lounge set, keep it by the dance floor so that you know people can go and sit for five minutes and then they're back up, you know, like for sure. Get rid of the distraction. Even bring the dessert to the dance floor. Can only use my mic.

SPEAKER_00 13:37

For sure.

SPEAKER_04 13:38

Bring everything, stay on the dance floor.

SPEAKER_00 13:39

No glass on the dance floor. Big on this. I've saw somebody slice open their foot because they think it's their living room and they kick off their shoes. That's a whole nother thing. That gives me the biggest.

SPEAKER_03 13:51

Actually, that's a wedding egg. When people are on the dance floor and they don't, and I'm like, I had to do that. I know you're like, I know for us women, at least, we have to wear heels. Always just bring a pair of flip-flops, keep them in your car. I take mine out. When it's time to dance, I don't want to dance. My feet are tired too. Yeah. I messed up on that one.

SPEAKER_04 14:08

My shoes were cutting into my feet so bad I had to throw them away. Oh shit. And then I had to go barefoot. Yeah. And it was it honestly did scare me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:15

And I'm like, Yes, I'm like, I'm like, I don't know what's on the floor. Every single weekend I see spilled drinks. There's some poo-poo.

SPEAKER_03 14:25

I mean, at least I'm hoping to take a shower when you get home. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 14:29

Literally. It's so, it's like, it's so like, don't have glass on the dance floor.

SPEAKER_04 14:35

Yeah. So what's the caveat? Like, what are the bars? Plastic. Just plastic. Just get the cans. Okay, so hold on a minute. A cool way to have a party favor is getting the cups, like the plastic cups, and stock in the bar with them.

SPEAKER_03 14:46

There you go. Now everyone take a cup. I do like, okay, the one favor I do really love is like the customized koozies. Because those are cute. You can have it on the dance floor with your drink, you know, and then you'll probably remember it because they're small. I have so many koozies.

SPEAKER_04 15:00

I will literally.

SPEAKER_03 15:01

Well, that's what I'm saying. And I'm I'm a girl by the pool all summer, so I'm like, I'll use that shit. Uh I'm at a chicken one the other day. I'm like, ooh.

SPEAKER_02 15:11

I don't want to call. I'm like, there's plenty left over. Because none of the guests took them. That's true.

SPEAKER_04 15:17

Okay, so that's what they're talking about with you're gonna go home with 40 koozies when you ordered like 50. I know.

SPEAKER_00 15:23

You're gonna be so sad.

SPEAKER_03 15:24

Maybe actually, I actually I feel like maybe uh if you really want a favor, maybe order just half. Because probably half the people will take them, and the other half is not going to.

SPEAKER_00 15:35

People are sad, man. You just like stuff down your sadness. Don't order shit. I know. Just be on the case. It's giving landfill core. It's giving landscape.

SPEAKER_04 15:46

And you guys are just making that shit worse. Just invest in good vendors and stay on the dance floor. Those are the moral moral of the story.

Guest Dress Codes Satin Dresses Ceremony Tips

SPEAKER_03 15:53

Period. That's what I'm here for. Okay, I feel like this has become a thing. Um, telling guests what colors they have to wear.

SPEAKER_04 16:00

I like it. I do like it. I like it.

SPEAKER_03 16:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 16:03

Oh, so okay. Unless you're doing all black and you have made it clear everyone's in all black, I like the all black. I definitely. Although there were two people at one of my last weddings that didn't do it and they stuck out like a sore thumb. However, I think I would have been like, you can leave my wedding.

SPEAKER_03 16:19

Literally.

SPEAKER_04 16:19

Linen, they were in a linen suit, Grace. But um, and then if you're gonna do, if you want them to be in a color, like give them like a color palette. Like I've seen on the invite, there's like a couple circles with the colors on there. I think that's cool. But also, unless you are extremely clear with your guests, like, hey, we want you all in black, do not be butthurt if they don't show up in your colors. Yeah, yeah, I think that's fair. Because if I mean, if you get like, I mean, for me, when I had my second baby, I'm I was a little fluffier, and I'm like, black is the only color I feel good in. So I'm not wearing any other colors, you know. So if you were to tell me it's all yellow wedding, like not happening, baby girl. Not happening. That's not gonna be my thing.

SPEAKER_03 17:00

Or, oh, actually, okay, this is a hot take, maybe. Um, if you make your bridesmaids wear silk bridesmaids dresses, you hate them.

SPEAKER_05 17:08

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 17:09

A light colored dress, a light colored silk dress. I'm sorry. Wow, sorry. It just okay, silk is one of those materials like satin that doesn't look great on the side. I have the time, I don't even want to wear fucking, yeah, satin, silk, whatever the fuck. See, here's my thing. It's it's pretty love how it photographs.

SPEAKER_04 17:30

I'm sure uh like a champagne satin dress. Okay, so to jump on your hot take, if you are set on satin, because I do love it, do the azazi and pick your color and then let your bridesmaids, because there's like hundreds and hundreds of styles, let your bridesmaid pick one that works with their body. Don't give them like, here's the dress. I like that. Because I had had a big thing. Or yeah, if you're gonna do that, you need yeah. I had had my first baby, and then I was in a lavender tight fitted satin lap dress, and I was like, Which is like, yeah, you're like, I gotta get out of this. My my stomach was like in my rib cage, you know what I mean? All night. So it's just like give your give that flexibility. Yeah. Every body style so different. Exactly. And we have so many tools and things that you can do that. But yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:14

Yeah, I just I feel like I feel bad when I see them, and I'm just like, I would not want to wear that. Or like at least let them pick the color. Like, I don't know. I just don't think that style and material looks great on everyone. It doesn't, I don't even think it looks good on me because it's just so like it shows. It just it shows a lot, it hugs. There's no like I can't wear it.

SPEAKER_00 18:35

I feel pretty good. So, what's your take on satin? Soft on my nipples. Um, but the thing is, oh my god, I want to piggyback off of that. And I would be cool if I never saw a wedding party up front with the couple ever again.

SPEAKER_04 18:47

On the ceremony? I do actually like that now. I actually don't mind that. Where like they walk and it's like these are VIPs. Here's your seats, and they sit in the front room. Because if you've got a hot ceremony, you're not wearing a lot of things.

SPEAKER_00 18:59

Somebody just passed out the other day. Yeah. Like, what are we doing here?

SPEAKER_04 19:03

Like the bride and groom is prepped for it, right? Because they know they're standing up there, and the bridal party obviously is too, but you're drinking, you're probably not eating, and all that stuff. It's easier to save one person than a bunch of wilting bridesmaids. Yeah. And it's just it's hot.

SPEAKER_00 19:19

I have a lot of ceremony ideas.

SPEAKER_03 19:21

Another thing is He's like, actually, I'm a wedding planner, no.

SPEAKER_00 19:25

I think you're officiant. I think to be in the 80th percentile of great efficience, okay. You need to tell people to stand up and sit down, and you need to get out here.

SPEAKER_03 19:36

When they don't do that, yep. Or when the fing bride's walking out. They're just like, Yep. As a guest, you do need to stand when the bride is walking out point blank. Period. I don't care if the official tells you someone do like the gesture for everyone at the official doesn't say be like, yeah, or even like every someone, please. This is the bride's moment.

SPEAKER_00 19:56

You do that, get out of the way of the first kiss and bonus.

SPEAKER_04 19:59

All the way. All the way. Like, go stand by the best man.

SPEAKER_00 20:02

Here's the other thing, but get out of the way for the personalized vows.

SPEAKER_01 20:06

We don't need you there picking your nose.

SPEAKER_03 20:08

Yeah, oh, in the back. I like that. I do like when the officiants, like, um, you know, they'll be like, okay, you can now kiss the bride, and then like kind of say, like, a subtle, like, uh, or I'm gonna go walk over there, and it'll be like, now you can kiss the bride.

SPEAKER_04 20:22

And then they walk all is announced that before you like you can step to the group, like the best man, and still say that. Oh, that's what I mean. Like, like already pre-estopped.

SPEAKER_01 20:32

Do the Aerosmith, do the Steven Tyler and walk this way with or without the mic stand. Yeah. Even like, you know what I mean? Like, come on.

SPEAKER_00 20:40

I think people are like, I think people think that these ceremonies need to go perfectly, and I need to say it exactly this way, as the scripting. Yeah, a little bit of improv to direct the guests where to go to LOL at the present moment. Like, yeah, nobody's gonna die.

SPEAKER_03 20:59

Yeah, or like at the end when like the um uh processional is done. Or processional, yeah, when they're all leaving, and then they're like the official just up there. I'm like, say go enjoy cocktail hour, or like and all the guests are just kind of like, so like what are we doing?

SPEAKER_04 21:14

So the moral of the story is if the couple is having a private moment, vows, not really private, but like a moment, let's get out of the way because it looks better. For pictures, yeah, yeah. And then I would say for sure, when the kiss is about to happen, take the mic stand with you, go stand by the best man. And now it's my pleasure from over here to announce that this, you know, because a lot of times the efficients will get out of the way, but they literally just move to the one step, yeah. Yeah, and I'm like, I can't photograph you because you're half behind the pillar, or I can't photoshop you out because you're half behind the pillar and half behind the best man, and it's just put that put those cues in your script and cue yourself before you're gonna say that. They're at the rehearsal. Like, find out where you need to go to where you're completely out of frame. Like have someone stand in the aisle and be like, Okay, if you're under the arch and you need to be like five feet down to move. To do that.

SPEAKER_03 22:01

Yeah, to be out of there.

SPEAKER_04 22:03

Yeah, the one person that's really good about that is Amy Stevens.

Vendor Meals Breaks And Payment Standards

SPEAKER_03 22:06

Shout out to her. Okay, I'm grabbing out my phone really quick. Oh, sorry. That's so loud. My volume's just on max. Okay, so we want to dive into vendor meals. Okay. How do we feel about those? What's your opinion as a wedding vendor? Should the couple be paying for your meal? And then we're gonna get into a viral video that we had on TikTok because people had a lot of opinions about that.

SPEAKER_00 22:31

It's in my contract. Same. It's in my contract.

SPEAKER_03 22:33

That's point blank, period.

SPEAKER_04 22:35

I mean, we're I guess the biggest thing is like when somebody is doing something for you, like capturing your day, obviously, yes, we're getting paid, right? Like we're there to give you an experience. But like kind of as like a nice thank you is that you take care of your vendors, right? So I think more than like the price of the vendor meal or whatever, like we're taking care of you, we're protecting your peace and hyping you up and giving you a cool day. Like I think when someone does something nice for me, the least I can do is give them some sort of thanks. And it doesn't have to be like I'm not talking about like giving you like a gift or whatever at the end, but like, yeah, hey, sit down, have a great meal. Dinner's on me tonight. Thank you so much for all your hard work. I think that's the way to look at it, versus I've already paid them, you know, why do I need to feed them? Well, first of all, when you're on an eight-hour shift at your job, you at least get a lunch break, right? Yeah, obviously, we're gonna need a lunch break too. Go to the bathroom, freshen up, put on some deodorant, like sit down, get some water.

SPEAKER_00 23:24

We're in Arizona, it's hot here, okay? I need to, right? And then he and then she died.

SPEAKER_04 23:29

And then that's the end of that.

SPEAKER_00 23:31

And her tombstone was she was funny.

unknown 23:33

Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 23:33

I don't see happy. Yep. Um, but yeah, that's I mean, that's the biggest thing for me. It's just like it's kind of just a nice thing to just take care of your vendors. You want your vendors to take your year, take care of you. It's like a beautiful relationship. I feed my children, they make me happy. Period. You know what I mean? Like it's just nice. Yeah. So it's just you take care of your people. And I think uh the caveat, if you don't want to feed them, then I think you need to be fully prepared that they need to eat either way. So if we're gonna go over that, you gotta give us like a full even more time to like do that. I have heard like, oh, why don't they just bring their lunch? I bring my lunch to work. I guess the biggest difference is this is a different industry.

SPEAKER_03 24:10

Yeah, like it's not we're not in a nine to five and I'm putting my lunchbox in the fridge.

SPEAKER_04 24:14

Exactly. Well, and a lot of times at venues, we don't have areas to put it.

SPEAKER_03 24:17

There's not even a vendor.

SPEAKER_04 24:18

There's not a microwave. I'm not bringing a sandwich.

SPEAKER_03 24:21

Like, that's you want my sandwich to sit out for eight hours? God no.

SPEAKER_00 24:25

I mean, it depends on the venue, but sometimes they're just pissed that you're there.

SPEAKER_03 24:28

Oh, true. Where do I can't? Where can I put the bags?

SPEAKER_04 24:32

100%.

SPEAKER_03 24:33

So let's get into some of the comments really quick before I hear your hot take. Right. Um, okay, I don't go to work and expect my lunch to get paid for. It's the caterer's job to make sure they get a break. Um in most states, it's a law to provide them with a break, but not the meal. Shall I read more?

SPEAKER_04 24:50

I I again I think it just kind of goes back to like this is the industry, it's one day and you want to keep everybody happy, right? Like you want to take care of your people.

SPEAKER_00 24:59

If anybody, yeah, if anybody disputed that in my contract, I would consider taking it out, but then I might accept it. I would be like a lie. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 25:09

Like I think if you are really hard pressed on not seeing me, I I don't know. Like, I I'm just a person in general that I just like to take care of people. I I really like to make people happy and you know, uh show them appreciation. Yeah. And I I don't know, I thought it was standard. When I was a bride, I knew that they were gonna be counted. They didn't even tell me anything, I just figured it was standard. Like, hey, yeah, I'm throwing this party. Thank you so much for being here and agreeing to take on my wedding and doing your work for me and your art and giving me your time. Like, I would love for you to sit here. Here's your place, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 25:43

And don't give me a real setting.

SPEAKER_04 25:45

I was just about to say, don't put it in. Put me in a dark closet hung upside down. Five minutes. I would rather be put in a garage than at a table. And I love, I love the thought. I love the thought. Yeah. Like a couple times I've been at tables and it's so sweet because like they actually think to put me at a table and they're like, you can sit with my family. Like, I that's so sweet. That is sweet. But I think just because I need to recharge my social battery for a couple minutes, oh yeah, put me in the janitor's closet.

SPEAKER_03 26:10

Well, that, and you're going to put me in the Harry Potter closet. I don't care.

SPEAKER_00 26:14

You are going to become the focal point of the conversation because you're the novelty. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:20

Tell me about the weddings.

SPEAKER_00 26:21

How many of these do you do a year? How's it going? What do you cost? Blah blah blah blah blah. And it's just like it's not about that. It's not about me. Let's talk about Susie and Mike. Yeah. You know what I mean? Um, but I would say, moreover, than the meal to me is can we please get 20 or 30 minutes uninterrupted? Whereas there are some people who are so annoyed that you're like, this is we have a vision for the day, and we're gonna do a toast beforehand.

SPEAKER_01 26:47

Salads get trapped, we'll do one or two toasts, and then five minutes later, we'll do one or two more toasts, and then right after that, we'll have a group bathroom break, and then we'll do one or two toasts. You know what I mean? They like plan out the entire like that. I think that's what I'm saying. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 26:59

And it works well for what they want, but I'm like scarfing down pieces of lettuce in between.

SPEAKER_03 27:05

And it's not exactly, you know, it's not realistic either. Well, so we're gonna. Give someone like, why are you doing a toast of between foods? 100%. Relax for 30 minutes, right? Eat your damn food.

SPEAKER_04 27:16

Well, and you just don't need to be like as a bride and groom, you don't need to be on all day. Like, eat your food. You also do not have to touch your tables, you don't have to do it. You can sit and decompress for 15, 10, 30 minutes. Like, made a chicken. Everyone's gonna come find you on the dance floor. You really don't need if you want to, that's fine. But I'm just don't feel that pressure to go up and touch tables. I did not because I'm like, your girl needs to save her energy for the dance floor. Yeah, I will catch you out there.

SPEAKER_03 27:45

I need I will catch you out there, and we will talk later. I don't care. I didn't do that either. Yeah, it's 60 guests, and I was like, I like you can come talk up to me. Like, obviously, if you want to come chat, say hi, give me a hug, love it.

SPEAKER_04 27:56

I think all in all, at least giving I it's fine. I guess if you don't want to feed me, my couples have never given me any any gripe, like gripe about it.

SPEAKER_03 28:05

It's always been a and a lot of the comments did say that most vendors have this in their contract saying, hey, you know, veteran meal needs to be included. I just like I don't see why anyone would push back because I'm gonna take more time to go run up the street to order something and then have to run back and then still eat it when I can just eat it with dinner time.

SPEAKER_00 28:24

It's as standard as the payment schedule. Like, I'm not gonna let you pay for the wedding after the after the wedding.

SPEAKER_04 28:29

Yeah, so a lot of people have questions about that too. Like, why am I paying for all of my vendors up front and then trusting goes in line with having vendors you trust? Have a contract. Have a contract, have vendors you trust, yep, read the reviews, vet your things due up front because as soon as I get home, I'm backing up the photos, I'm getting ready to send you a sneak peek. I'm not gonna chase you down for your last payment.

SPEAKER_00 28:53

Hers, especially photographers, videographers, social um content creators, I'm it's tip of the tongue, lips, teeth. Uh, you guys are kind of in the middle of your workflow. DJ for the most part, I might do some exports, share some contents, share some playlists and stuff like that, but it's very like, here's your dropbox folder. You know what I mean? Um, but I feel like you guys are in the middle of it. And like nobody wants to like follow up with somebody during uh, you know, honeymoon or something like that. It's just it's what it is.

SPEAKER_03 29:25

I don't understand why. I mean, obviously, having my own wedding, like I never was like, I'm gonna pay these people after, right? Like, no, you pay for the service beforehand. That's why you make sure they have contracts.

SPEAKER_04 29:37

Yeah, and I get it's a little different because like a nine to five job you get paid after the work is done.

SPEAKER_03 29:42

Yeah, but this yeah, totally different.

SPEAKER_04 29:44

So I think that's also like the thing on the vendor meals, it's just a different standard because it's a different industry. Yeah, so like every field has their standard, nurses have their kind of standard, you know, corporate has their kind of standard.

SPEAKER_00 29:55

It's why can flight attendants sleep on the job? I can't sleep on the job, right? How is that? It's not unfair. It's part of the industry, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:03

It's part of the industry. And just because you're not in it, my bestie's a flight attendant, too. So I'm like napping on the job. I'd be like, she'd be sleeping. For me, it's just the biggest thing is like if you want a harmonious team that's gonna do their absolute best, just take care of them, just take care of them. We know what's standard for us. We're gonna deliver if you find the right ones and you book the right ones.

Jealousy Clicks And Growing In The Industry

SPEAKER_00 30:23

And you know what? Let's also just dive into the other point about people who have worked together with one another and like to work together. Yeah, you are going to get a certain amount of excellence with Taryn. You're gonna get a certain amount of excellence with me. But when we work together, we actually magnify each other.

SPEAKER_04 30:39

So, yeah, Trago's podcast was like okay last week, and mine was like pretty good, but this one's like excellent. You know, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:45

She didn't finish it yet. She would never know. She's like, uh yeah, I was so on my list.

SPEAKER_04 30:50

On my list.

SPEAKER_03 30:51

I actually listened. Taxes, listen to Trago's podcast.

SPEAKER_04 30:55

It's in there.

SPEAKER_03 30:55

Yeah. It's on the list.

SPEAKER_04 30:57

She's like, I'll get to it.

SPEAKER_03 30:59

Jeez.

SPEAKER_04 31:00

I I feel bad because Trago literally called me like 30 minutes after mine dropped. And was like, your episode was so good. And I'm like, when did you reference?

SPEAKER_00 31:08

Oh. You know what I referenced.

SPEAKER_04 31:12

No, I know.

SPEAKER_00 31:12

We had to talk some cheaper.

SPEAKER_04 31:13

I listen. Not about you guys. We talked about it. No, he had to get the beats of what I was chatting about. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:19

The behind the camera. The behind the scenes. I would need the name.

SPEAKER_04 31:23

But you call yourself Gretchen Wieners the whole time. I'm Gretchen. It's in my finger. Yeah, he does. Oh, he's got the hat on. He didn't want to lay him out. No, yeah. With my myself. Stop trying to make fetch happen.

SPEAKER_03 31:35

Stop doing that.

SPEAKER_04 31:36

It's not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_03 31:37

It's not gonna happen. Anyways. Okay, next one is kind of juicy. Um, vendor jealousy in the industry. Do we feel like there is? What's our opinion?

SPEAKER_00 31:49

I'm so glad I didn't read these before. It's so true. It's are you jealous of anybody in the industry?

SPEAKER_04 31:57

Not anymore. And I don't even know if jealous is the right word. I think you and I, when we went to lunch for the very first time, I had imposter and syndrome. Like nobody's business.

SPEAKER_05 32:05

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 32:06

Yeah, no, I don't. I think I think I am distracted in my everyday life to where I don't have time for it. Every once in a while, I'll be like, oh dang, how's this person getting like this venue? I would love to get this venue. Like, I think there's a little bit of that, but then I sit back and I'm like, it's fine because I have the coolest couples. Like I work with the coolest couples. And whether I'm at this venue or that venue, like the wedding days are freaking awesome because I worked with the coolest couples and I get to do what I love for the people. So I think, yes, I'm always striving to be better, do better, enhance my experience and all of that, all of that. But like the center of focus is my couples and the people that are willing to trust me and basically pay for my dream life, you know. So like I can't complain because I have everything that I've ever wanted. You know, my past self would be like, dang, I can't believe you're here. Yeah. But so I think I think it's better for me now, for sure. But 100%. There's comparison, there's jealousy, there's yeah, there's there's clickiness. Oh yeah. There's a lot of clickiness. Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:12

Yeah. Yeah. There's tons of people who definitely struggle with that and definitely have it. And it comes with imposter syndrome, and it comes with there not being any sort of certification or college degree or really anything other than saying, hey, I'm an LLC open for business, like whatever, whatever. So there is for so long, like, oh, like I should be getting this and I should be climbing like to this spot and this, that, and the other thing. But yeah, that's all. No, stick with it.

unknown 33:40

He's like, I'm gonna stick with it.

SPEAKER_00 33:42

He's like, I'm just that good. Um, no, like, I don't know. I I think it it definitely happens, though. I mean, I'm like, faces are going through my head, like, oh you and you and you and you.

SPEAKER_04 33:54

I well, I also think that you gotta put in your time, right? Like vendor relationships and stuff, like Trago and I didn't start out as best friends pretty quickly afterward. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 34:03

We're kind of acceptable.

SPEAKER_04 34:05

You know, but like it just it takes time. And honestly, at least for photo, you can't be a couple years in and be like, I'm charging this in my mind. Yeah, everyone has Well, you can. You can.

SPEAKER_00 34:18

But congratulations, you have five weddings this year.

SPEAKER_04 34:20

Yeah.

unknown 34:21

Period.

SPEAKER_04 34:22

Are you okay with that? I'm from Are you like good with that or no? It's just somebody that's gotta build up and be like, I have to know that I can deliver the experience that I'm gonna charge for. Like, if I'm like, okay, this is my starting price, like I know that that is absolutely what I can. I mean, I know you think I'm underpriced, whatever. But I just like going above and beyond that, you know what I mean? Yeah, I just I think it takes time. I think you gotta put in the work to build in, build your relationships. Like everyone wants to get in with wedding planners, and it's like it takes time. You know, they gotta trust you. They're referring to the body.

SPEAKER_03 34:57

You gotta be out for sure.

SPEAKER_04 34:58

You know, it just and trust, trust who you're once you book a vendor that you really love, trust her recommendations. Because I promise you they're gonna give you some really good friends, and anyone that I recommend is going to give you the level of experience that I would want as a bride and would want from my clients.

SPEAKER_00 35:14

And if they ever don't, gone.

SPEAKER_04 35:16

Off you're out. Yeah, there's a couple people that I've had to swap out because their communication is lacking. Like, I mean, I'm replying to emails and texts like within an hour most of the time.

SPEAKER_03 35:26

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:27

I yeah, 24 hours max.

SPEAKER_03 35:29

Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yep. Yeah, I think there's it's it's a lot. I just think it's a lot.

SPEAKER_02 35:35

Yeah, it's a lot.

SPEAKER_03 35:38

Well, especially too, like being newer in content creation and like it's so small, I feel like still, and it's just like, but then there's people who are already like been doing it for years, and they're like, and people and blah blah. And I'm like, I want to be like that. But I'm like, after my high-but you will. No, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, right. Like, I have my 2026 gold, and I'm like, I can get there one day, but I'm, you know, I need to put in my time and you will patient with it.

SPEAKER_00 36:01

And that's the thing. Like, like, okay, so last year I was lucky enough to win the popularity contest that is Arizona Bride. I'm grateful, blah, blah, blah. But then you get it, and you're like, there's like an like an emptiness, and it's like, well, I thought it was the underdog. I thought I was still like going for it. And now it's like you need to like push yourself. It's easier to chase somebody, but once somebody says you're doing a great job, then you're like, okay, well, now it's time to like be self-motivated exclusively.

SPEAKER_04 36:32

Yeah, I think I think you get to like a plateau point too, where you're like, okay, this is what my goals are, and I'm striving for this and this and this and this and this. And then you get there and you're like, okay, now what? But I think the biggest thing is like appreciating what it took to get there, and then finding the things that you appreciate now being there. So like it's like thinking about a hike. You're at the bottom, you're like, Oh, I can't wait to get to that mountain. I'm gung-ho, I'm ready. And then halfway through, you're like, damn, this is hard. I'm sweating my ass off, I'm in the mud. And then you get to the top and you're like, wow, this is amazing. And then you're like, wait, dang, it was over. So half of the like real reward in building your business is that whole like climb, yeah, the ascent. And then when you get there, then it just becomes a point.

SPEAKER_05 37:11

Yes!

SPEAKER_04 37:13

And when you get to the top or you get to the your mountaintop and everyone's different, right? Yeah. When you get to your tip top, it's like then at that point, you just like sit there and you appreciate 100%. And then you become a welcoming presence for the other people that are building their business. The biggest thing I can't stand in the wedding industry is that people are like, I'm at the top, you're not.

SPEAKER_03 37:33

Ew, I hate when people are like, you're gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_04 37:36

It's that uppity attitude. Yeah. And I get it. Like, you know, you've earned your spot, right? But like, don't shit on other people because you're there now. Like, you were there before. 100%. So I'm all about like maybe I'm not like in a spot of mentoring or whatever, but I'm not gonna ever discourage somebody for like saying, Hey, how did you get there? What do you have any advice? Anything like that. You know, like I'm still going up in my goal system.

SPEAKER_00 38:01

I feel like there's classes of people of as in like graduation classes of people of like I got into the industry in the early tens.

SPEAKER_04 38:11

I've been in the industry for 55 years.

SPEAKER_00 38:13

Do you want a cookie? Do you know what I mean? And I feel like they all band together, and it's like it you kind of rise through the ranks, it's kind of natural. Sure, yeah, but at the same time, I definitely feel like it's less from individual people and more of like look at the young kids networking, like trying to like make it.

SPEAKER_04 38:31

Oh, it is it is it is a little bit of that.

SPEAKER_03 38:34

It is for sure.

SPEAKER_00 38:35

Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 38:35

And it's like it's like, oh, they're so cute. Remember when we used to be like that now at the telling.

SPEAKER_04 38:39

It's like seniors, like literally high school seniors. You're like, oh, look at the freshmen. I remember but here's the thing is like everyone can be talented, and if you don't stay sharp, those people are gonna come and swoop you up. And if you have a bad attitude and you're gonna just be like, Well, I'm here and this is what I deliver, take it or leave it, it's like, okay, then I'm leaving it.

SPEAKER_03 38:56

There's always new people coming, like, and there's everyone, and like that's my biggest thing, too, is there's room for everyone at the table. 100%. Everyone has different styles, vibes, personalities, and there's a billion people on the planet. There's plenty of weddings to go around. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 39:12

There's so it's just seven million people in just Phoenix.

SPEAKER_03 39:15

Literally, like, there, there's there's room for everyone.

SPEAKER_00 39:18

Yeah, they all know each other because I see them at all the same weddings.

SPEAKER_04 39:21

Smallest fake town ever.

SPEAKER_00 39:22

Crazy.

SPEAKER_03 39:23

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_04 39:24

Always the same, like, well, try to TJ's everyone's wedding.

SPEAKER_00 39:27

But I mean, it's like this like, yep, I do. But like, do you know what I mean? It's like I'm like, I don't have the option of sucking at this wedding because seven couples, like four former couples and three upcoming couples are here. So, like, it really like it just keeps on raising the bar. For sure.

SPEAKER_04 39:45

I think as long as you raise your own bar and you don't have an attitude that you are completely irreplaceable. Yeah, I I one of my biggest things is like, yeah, we're cool, we're talented, whatever, the experience we know we're gonna give, blah, blah, blah. But at the end of the day, those couples are not just booking us so that we can show off. We're buckle, these couples are booking us because they want to have our experience and they trust us and they love us. So at the end of the day, we are serving the couple, and that should be our main focus. Not all of this la di da, like, oh, I'm better than them, that like uppity attitude. Like, we are 100% still serving our couples and we should be giving them the best day ever. And I think that should be like the main focus.

SPEAKER_00 40:25

The people booked and busy don't tend to have a lot of time to look side to side.

SPEAKER_04 40:30

Or if you have your own kids.

SPEAKER_00 40:31

Or if you have your kids. Or if you have children. Stop peeing on that wall.

SPEAKER_03 40:34

Jimmy.

SPEAKER_04 40:35

Who's Jimmy? Well, maybe maybe peeing on walls.

SPEAKER_03 40:42

You never know.

SPEAKER_00 40:43

She's perfect if the other one. Oh no, she's just sassy. Tells me she hates me like everyone.

Marriage Logistics Planning Stress Final Tips

SPEAKER_03 40:49

Okay, we're gonna switch. Okay, so all the wedding stuff's out of the way. This is like marriage, like you're a penny. I love marriage. Okay. Do you share?

unknown 40:58

Go.

SPEAKER_04 40:59

What?

SPEAKER_03 41:00

Go. Okay. Do you share your location with your partner? Yes.

SPEAKER_04 41:03

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 41:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 41:05

First of all, again, with the kids. I, if I have a Menti B scheduled at 3 p.m., I need to know approximately how many minutes late you're gonna be. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 41:13

Fair.

SPEAKER_04 41:14

Right?

SPEAKER_00 41:14

Yeah. Yeah. It's fair. It's just like this never-ending like participation like project.

SPEAKER_04 41:21

So my best friend and I call it like checking on our Sims. That's what I say.

SPEAKER_00 41:26

The Sims. I like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 41:27

She goes, I go to find mine, and I'm like, oh, where's everybody? Yeah, where is everybody?

SPEAKER_00 41:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 41:31

Well, like Kayla and I share locations because, like, you know, sometimes we're at different locations.

SPEAKER_00 41:34

We and Carlos do. It's awesome. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 41:38

And then like some of my other friends, just from like random Vegas.

SPEAKER_00 41:40

Oh, she's so sweet.

SPEAKER_04 41:42

She's the best. Well, shout out to Kayla.

SPEAKER_00 41:43

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 41:44

If you have Kayla with you at one of my weddings, just know you are in fantastic hands. Oh. Um, but yeah, I mean, some of my friends just from like past Vegas trips, we just never stopped sharing each other's location. And now we're opening it up.

SPEAKER_03 41:55

I swear every other like drunk night have like a new location. I'm like, what is what's going on?

SPEAKER_04 41:59

I share jumping.

SPEAKER_02 42:00

I'm like, ow!

SPEAKER_03 42:01

What's she doing? I know. I'm like, where are you at? Okay, me too. I share locations and it's never going off. Okay. Do you have a joint bank account? Yes. Okay. Me too. Well, I okay. So I have a joint bank account, but we still have our own separate ones. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 42:18

So my business account is obviously separate because that's not our main account. Correct. Yeah. And then, um, sorry, Jake, we use all your money. Um, so yeah, exactly. So his, like his goes into our main, and then he's got like a side fund money thing that he likes to, whatever. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 42:34

You work you have a shoebox with$4,000.

SPEAKER_03 42:37

Not anymore. She said I bought a purse. Hey, you work hard for your money, so you should spend it on whenever that hardware. It just happened. Honestly, I want to buy a new purse, so I'm gonna start saving up for one. Say that to me at all these numbers. All right. Well, that's all I have for you guys. That's it. I'm sad.

SPEAKER_05 42:58

I know. It's been going on.

SPEAKER_04 43:01

Wait, I have a question for you. It's not over. It's not over. As long as Brock will allow it. Um, question for you. What was the biggest stressor of your wedding day? Oh. As a bride, either planning or like, I guess we don't have stress on the wedding day. So, like, what was your biggest stressor during wedding planning?

SPEAKER_03 43:20

Um, honestly, oh my gosh, that's a good one. I think just how many things like coincide with booking a wedding or bringing the vision to like to life and like the money aspect.

SPEAKER_02 43:31

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:32

That can that would be like probably the most stressful part. It's just the money aspect of it. Which I mean, I and I don't I didn't mind spending the money, but that's why we took almost two years to have our wedding. So we're like, let's just make it easy breezy, then we're not stressed about money and stuff like that. So I would say that. And then on my wedding day, I don't I like I said, I didn't give an F. I was like, give me a my espresso martini and like let's go.

SPEAKER_04 43:55

She was killing it. Yeah. What's your biggest tip for brides booking their weddings now?

SPEAKER_03 43:59

Ooh. Biggest tip um have the upfront conversations like budget, um, make sure you're on the same page, especially with your other half. Because if you go into it not having a clear plan, budget, um, I think that's just where all the cracks can start beginning. That's yours.

SPEAKER_00 44:19

Is that yeah, I would definitely, but I would say like set the budget that you want and then take off 20% because you're gonna overshoot it. Oh, for sure. You know what I mean? For sure.

SPEAKER_04 44:29

As I've reiterated in both of my episodes, investing in your party, your photography and your chaos coordinator, aka Wedding Clay May.

SPEAKER_03 44:38

Yes, yeah, do that, do all those please for begging. Okay, well, yay, thank you guys so much for coming back on, and we'll catch you guys next week on the Wedding Hub Podcast. Bye. Bye, bye. Bye.