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Shop Smart at the Garden Center
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This week on Gals Who Grow, we're chatting all about how to shop smarter at your favorite garden centers—without losing any of the fun.
Hear our hot takes on what’s actually worth buying, what you can easily grow yourself, and simple ways to save money while still filling your cart (just a little 😉). Whether you're picking up annuals, perennials, or veggie starts, this episode will help you make confident, budget-friendly choices all season long.
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Hi, I'm Monica with Lulu the A-Field. And I'm Cassie with Coppertop Gardens. And I'm Bailey with How Home and Garden. We have been cultivating our gardens and farms for years now, but something really special was sowed when we met and began working together.
SPEAKER_04Our shared passion for growing the best local flowers and food has made us realize the impact it's had in not only our own homes, but also in our local community.
SPEAKER_03We are the gals who grow, and we can't wait to inspire you to grow too.
SPEAKER_04Hello, everybody.
SPEAKER_03Hello. Hi. Welcome back to another week of Gals Who Grow. Cassie, what are we talking about this week?
SPEAKER_04Well, since it is, what, approximately, we're into April now, middle of April. Um, we know all of our friends are going to be visiting all the garden centers.
SPEAKER_03As are we.
SPEAKER_04Which is amazing. Whether or not we admit to it. Yes, it is such a good time of year. I'll go there on my lunch breaks and just walk around. Oh my gosh. Oh, you do? Yes. Where do you go? Wherever.
SPEAKER_01I'll switch it up. Wherever I can drive to. Yeah. Whichever one's closest. No. There's like three that I can just I cannot wait to step into one of those babies. Oh, it's great.
SPEAKER_03I miss I haven't been drinking in a long time, but in May, Joey and I almost always would go on a Sullivan's trip.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_03Sullivan's is a local nursery to us. And I mean, I think every place has a nerd a nursery or like a garden center that does this, but they have a like brewery uh bar, and you can get a beer and walk around with a beer and shop.
SPEAKER_01And it is like I've never had this experience before.
SPEAKER_03But like if you're if you like telling things, that is like you literally just get a get a glass and you go around rolling a card around and Joey and I.
SPEAKER_01You need more encouragement to buy things.
SPEAKER_03We uh in the past would always ask our family and friends for like Christmas and stuff if they were looking for something to get us to get, like for my birthday, things like that. We would always get gift cards to Sullivan. So then the trip ends up being like we would end up getting like two over the whole year, we'd end up getting like $200 worth of gift cards. And then we just roll around Sullivan's with our beers and just shop for fun, which is like that.
SPEAKER_04Oh my gosh. Well, that is something you can do, but we're talking today about what you let's see, what you need to begin. Maybe some tips. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03There's there's well one thing, maybe drinking might makes you a little loose with the plant bind. So there's that. Maybe don't do that. Like do that.
unknownLike what?
SPEAKER_03I'm like, oh my gosh, I need one of these. Like this. I think it's like I love now.
SPEAKER_01I need 10 of them. That's where I would be at.
SPEAKER_03I would literally be like, Well, we need more of these. And Joy would be like, We already have a ton of them. What are you? And I was like, Well, we need more, don't we? We want more. But this one's a little bit more purple.
SPEAKER_04Yes. But there are there are great things, great things at the garden center, things that like maybe aren't really worth paying for because you can grow them yourself. And then there are some things that maybe you should probably avoid. So we just wanted to like kind of talk about that a little bit. Um, because you know, we freak with them a lot and we are a little bit of experienced in the nurseries and they're shopping. So, like, let's talk about that first then. Like, what are some things? Mare golds. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Those are the easiest things in the world to start from seed. Yeah. They basically grow themselves.
SPEAKER_03You know people buy them because you see them in planters.
SPEAKER_01The little thing is that they see them in bloom. Honestly, I think they want them in bloom.
SPEAKER_03I think my mom actually used to buy them in like little plugs for her garden.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they sell them in those like six packs with a little handle. Yes.
SPEAKER_03No shade, mom. I know you like your marigolds. The thing is, grow them from seed.
SPEAKER_04So this is just more of a like, if you want to if you want to spend the money, that's fine. But like, just know that you can spend two dollar for planters. Yeah. Yes.
SPEAKER_01Like they you do need the dwarf varieties. Yeah. Yep.
SPEAKER_04It just it depends what you're looking for, but if you have some gardening experience, you can still find those varieties in seed form and spend like a quarter of the cost. Five percent of the cost of a flat because that stuff's getting pretty expensive.
SPEAKER_03It is getting expensive. It is getting expensive, and you're probably paying a pretty penny for the soil. Yes.
SPEAKER_04That's most of what you're paying for is the soil because soil is energy to get it to where it's at.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. 100%.
SPEAKER_04Um, some other things are certain certain plants just daylilies. Yeah. Go find a friend that has some. If you want daylilies, you don't buy those from seed.
SPEAKER_03No, you don't you don't grow those from seed, but you can't.
SPEAKER_01But you can get a friend that has daylilies in the yard and just break off a chunk and put it in there. How many old ladies have stopped by my house and been like, Can I have a star to that? Really? No joke. Really? They drive up into my driveway and they say, I see you have Rubecia. Yeah. Can I have a star to that? And I'm like, girl, yes. You can. Let me go find my shovel. Girl, yes. Holding the baby. Like I said, I feel like if I'm just maybe get 10 more years on me, get some more gray hairs, I'm gonna be that I'm gonna be that lady. We're gonna be bold. Driving around. Monica, I know you're gonna be that lady.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04But that's okay. Don't buy one.
SPEAKER_03I would say one thing that uh I see in the store that like I would not buy are like at the end of the season, they're still selling some annuals in flour.
SPEAKER_01Yes, don't do that.
SPEAKER_03And it's like you're gonna get so little time out of that. That's if you get it in the ground, it doesn't get baked to death before it blooms again. Like it might never bloom again, and you're just buying it. They they keep them on like with the price still marked up for a long time.
SPEAKER_04And there's just stuff like you know, all the little um Silosha flats and uh gosh, what's it like?
SPEAKER_01I will say some of those, some of those are nice for planters.
SPEAKER_04They are, but some of those things too are also treated with things to make them bloom quickly. And it's like that one. That makes them dwarf. Yes, but well, no, not necessarily, but it makes them so uniform. Oh. And my question to myself is always like, okay, I could buy this flat for like $27.99. Yeah. But how long are these things gonna look like this? And if I chop off the bloom, is it gonna come back? Yeah, probably like because you just don't know. You just don't know. And there people who sell rununculus at the garden centers, do not buy that. Okay, I'm saying it. Don't buy Renunculous in bloom at the garden center. It's not gonna financially bad decision.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they know that people don't know this, so that's why. I know. I know.
SPEAKER_03So, what are the things that we would buy at the garden center?
SPEAKER_01Oh, I would just like to add one more thing to this. I mentioned this on my stories yesterday, is do not buy things that have like black or brown spots on them. Yes. Like I would reverse um search, picture search on Google what if there's a spot of something, especially if it's on the clearance rack. Because if it's botrytis or some sort of fungus, other fungus, fungal or um uh a virus, yeah. Like they should I just don't think that uh the big box stores have them capability to know they don't, yeah. They're not paying attention to anything about gardening. Yeah, they don't have a horticulture background. But you're essentially paying for bad stuff to be in your ground. Yeah, yeah. I I bought peanies that were on the clearance rack because they were like they were like five dollars. And I'm like, you can't let this go to waste, you can't see these and not buy them. And you can get rid of botrytis, but it's so hard.
SPEAKER_03Oh gosh, yeah, it's it's tough. I would say, um, and maybe this is a point. If you are new to gardening and you're really not familiar, maybe do only go to like local nurseries because the people who work there are usually very knowledgeable, very knowledgeable.
SPEAKER_04They are connoisseurs and they will be able to answer your questions.
SPEAKER_03I mean, literally the reason our lavender did so well is because while we were buying it, one of the employees from Sullivan's came over and was like, that was one of the May trips that we took, and he was like, Wait, are you putting those in the ground? What's your plan for them? And we were like putting them in the ground, and he was like, Okay, hold up. Uh, you're gonna need to go get lava rock, you're gonna need to get sand. And we were like, Oh, and they're still alive to this day.
SPEAKER_01So I bought my lavender plants from Lowe's, and no one told me that. And all 15 of them died.
SPEAKER_03I also have grown lavender from seed, but it's not in a great spot. So I would say you can grow lavender from seed. Um, but yeah, I I think going to local nurseries are a way to like have more uh eyes on plants.
SPEAKER_01And less guesswork for you if you're not super sure. They're good to go if you just want some inspiration too. Like if you're like, I need something that will will be this color and bloom at this time. Yeah. Like just take a stroll. And you don't have to necessarily buy it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Because honestly, buying things when they're in bloom is not the best practice, but that's what we all do, right? We all see it, it's blooming, we want it in our own gardens. So we all buy them when they're in bloom. But in truth, you're supposed to buy them in their off season because that's when they best transplant.
SPEAKER_04That actually is a tip. Like when you're there, if there is something that you want and most of it's in bloom, like look for the the one that's not or the one that's least in bloom. Yeah. That's gonna be the best plant for you to go home and replant. Yep. Um once stuff's in bloom, like all of that plant's energy is going towards those blooms. So if you re-transplant it once you get home, you're gonna stress that sucker out. And I mean, you can be harder to keep it alive. You can. You can. But if you want to be easier on yourself and on the plant, yeah, then try to go for the ones that are not in bloom yet. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I think in general, I just would stay away from annuals at the at the big box stores. I know. I think that's part of the truth.
SPEAKER_03Part of it is we don't like to spend money on stuff that we don't have for more than one year. So like seeds are the cheaper way to deal with annuals. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I mean, I would buy like I would buy them if they yeah, again, not blooming. Because they'll only they probably are only selling annuals that are blooming.
SPEAKER_04Yep. Because that's what people will pick up. Yeah. But I will say, I will buy petunias at the wave petunias are different.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04And I only buy those because they help with the aphids situation. Oh, yeah. It's not because I love them. I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they're a they're also pretty. My mom gets those in the flats too.
SPEAKER_04I like they're flashy, like they're a flash of color when you know. I mean, I don't hate them at all. I like the border. That's what I'm not gonna start petunias from seed though. No, I'm not gonna be. I don't want to waste the time. Yeah, but so that I would that I would buy. That would be a thing I would pick up is petunias at the garden center.
SPEAKER_03Um or I well, those ones type of petunias, I might start from seed, the like cut flower ones that they're start becoming more pansies.
SPEAKER_01Yes. I just picked up a book at the library on that, and it's well, I returned it.
SPEAKER_03Three Three Brothers Blooms does the like cut flower, right?
SPEAKER_04Those are relatively new on the market, but yes.
SPEAKER_03They're very pretty. Um, I will also buy I mean, I've bought all my hydrangeas from stores, and they've been shrubs and shrubs and like local nurseries are probably the best place to buy these from. Box stores you can get good deals at the clearance. Yes. Once they've already gone over and they're no longer like an in-in-vogue thing, you can definitely get good deals. I got pussy willow from there. Like some of them are marked down to like a dollar. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Monica has brought us dead-looking plants for a dollar and they are alive. Viburnums.
SPEAKER_03Monica was like, you each got a viburnum that's out there in my baby pool.
SPEAKER_01I thought we're trading right now. That's the other thing. If you if you do shop those, get a baby pool. Yeah. Ooh, goodness.
SPEAKER_03And set them into to water when they get home.
SPEAKER_01Yes. And keep them.
SPEAKER_04But there is, if you're if you're shopping perennials, um do a quick search just to see I would I would put in, is this of a burnum or whatever it is, invasive in your city? That's what I would search. Yeah. Because the big box stores is specifically, they will they will sell things that are technically invasive sometimes. Yep. Okay. Um because they're, you know, what's invasive here is not invasive in other states. And if that box store is also in other states, then they're not really paying attention to it. Yeah. So that's something to look out for.
SPEAKER_03Yes, for sure. And that, yeah, that comes down like shrubs, plants, there's all sorts of of um invasive species that get sold. I mean, look at the Bradford pears that are literally everywhere and probably about to bloom.
SPEAKER_04I think we're finally to the point where those are not available in box stores, but it took far too long to get there. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03We're like beyond the point of.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Also, I would say um, okay, so our plant of the year is blueberries, right? I would not buy blueberry plants from a big box store. Uh oh my god.
SPEAKER_01I don't know why. I have I've had mine, they're not dead, but I've had mine for like four years now. Nothing has not happened.
SPEAKER_04The blueberry on the blue. Okay, so good point. So things like things like fruiting shrubs are going to depend, it's the same like fruit trees. It's gonna depend on where you are in the country, in your state. So it's better to buy those from nurseries that specialize in those plants in your state. Yeah. So we bought our plants this year from Indiana Berry. Yep. Because we live in Indiana and we're buying berry pants. Have you both bought yours? Yes. Yes. Oh, shoot.
SPEAKER_02So they were still available. It looked like they were sold out. I looked.
SPEAKER_04The all-season pack is still available. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03I don't have my bed ready yet. I don't either, but I'm building the raised ones.
SPEAKER_04So when are you getting yours? They should start shipping next week or two, I think. Like April. I think. I think I checked the other day. I can't remember. Are you doing raised beds or in the ground? I'm getting the metal round beds. That's what I'm doing.
SPEAKER_03Mine are going beneath my pine trees, but they're only gonna be in like a tiny, tiny wooden raised bed. Yeah. Basically just a little border to try and keep the poison ivy out.
SPEAKER_01So you have poison ivy over there?
SPEAKER_03Yep. A lot of it actually. It's like our biggest area of poison ivy.
SPEAKER_01You're brave to plant it over there.
SPEAKER_03I'm just gonna put them on top of them.
SPEAKER_01Oh my gosh, this sounds awful.
SPEAKER_03I know. I'm very nervous actually. But we're we were gonna rip it out and then I was like, how are we even gonna find it right now? Because I'm pretty sure it's just a vine below the ground. But we're just gonna cover over them. We're gonna put cardboard down and soil and plant into that and see what we get.
SPEAKER_04I would um since we're on the topic of what to avoid at the end of the day. No, you are not spraying.
SPEAKER_02We are not spraying, Monica.
SPEAKER_01How do you get rid of poison ivy? Pull it. I don't know. You just yeah. Pull it. I've heard horror stories of poison ivy. I mean, yeah, it's bad stories.
SPEAKER_03Joey swears he's not allergic, but we're not gonna blame that used to eat it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah. What? Uh huh. Ugh. And he lived to tell the tale. Yes.
SPEAKER_04Oh, that's that's too bold.
SPEAKER_01He would eat. Like as like a way to like microdose? No, I think it was just a thing that like he was raised on eating, and so my mom my mom always tells a story. She would go fishing with grandpa, and her siblings would go fishing with grandpa, and they would eat poison ivy together, and my mom some of them would react and some of them wouldn't. My mom was a reactor. Wow. What's the reasoning? Just for fun. I think it was good. Tastes good. Oh maybe. Interesting. We'll never know. Well, on the subject. There's a lot of things that people used to eat. Yeah, that's like dandelion. Not even cooked, they ate it fresh. Yeah, my grandpa used to make dandelion wine. Interesting. I bet that was better. I don't know. I don't I I've heard someone of accidentally burning it and it getting into their the oils like the inhaled and their lungs.
SPEAKER_03Yep. Yeah, yeah, you cannot burn it.
SPEAKER_04This is awful. Yeah. Okay, be careful around poison ivy, guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Be careful with blueberries around poison ivy. But I have pine trees. Should I plant my blueberry bush under the pine trees? That's what I'm doing. They like pine needles because pine needles acid raise the acidity. I think I'm gonna remove mine from the raised bed then. You should move, yeah, move it over there because if it gets enough sun, it needs a lot of sun. That guy that we always watch on Instagram is always got his in raised bed, so I was like, oh, I'll do the raised bed game.
SPEAKER_04That's a basically essentially that's what I'm doing. It's just not a super deep one.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's what ours are literally like a just a four by a two by four.
SPEAKER_04But it's gonna be open to the ground. So like it's a shallow rooted plant, blueberries are, so that raised bed should allow us to control the soil where it really, really matters. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Um that would be another reason why it would be good under pines.
SPEAKER_04Mm-hmm. Because it's shallow. And you can use the pine needles to mulch it. Yeah. It's good. And if you have strawberries, strawberries are a good companion plant with blueberries because they have strawberry. I was gonna do that. I was gonna do that.
SPEAKER_01They do. They sure as heck do. So I'm removing, I'm removing all of my strawberries from my raised bed because we're moving our old raised bed.
SPEAKER_03That's why I said I'd take some of yours because I was gonna put them in with the blueberries.
SPEAKER_01Oh, next to the poison ivy?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, next to the poison ivy. You are crazy. You are not start eating it with the strawberries and blueberries. Oh my god, if you put poison ivy in your throat.
SPEAKER_03I don't feel bad. I am not going to eat the poison ivy. I am trying to suffocate it, is what I'm trying to do. And we put like a dead hedge behind where we're doing it. So we're trying to like hold the poison ivy back and then put everything in front of it. Because it was like coming into the yard and then it stops once it hits where the sun is.
SPEAKER_01Bailey's trying to control Mother Nature. Yeah, I am. Because I lift to tell the poison ivy.
SPEAKER_03Just because of the poison ivy. So we are we put a dead hedge over right where it comes up. So we're trying to like smother the poison ivy or at least get it to stay on the back side of that dead hedge, and then we're putting our beds in front of that dead hedge.
SPEAKER_04Okay. I'm gonna need to see how that goes later on. Um real quick on the garden center thing. Yeah. I would say bring us back now. You can also you can also buy some soil amendments there, but careful on that too. You want to stick stick with the organic, not the blue stuff.
SPEAKER_03Um yeah, I always do. I always do organic anything from a box store.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Organic anything. You can get your fish fertilizers there sometimes. Um I would be careful with mulch if you're putting it around like anything that you're gonna eat. You don't want to get the dyed mulch for that purpose. I don't know why. Um yeah, it's just it's just you just take it.
SPEAKER_01Okay, and you've had experience too of like soil gnats. Yeah be careful with that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, if you're buying bag soil, I don't buy bag soil from big box places anymore because I had horrible fungus gnats. Yeah. Horrible. And ever since I stopped doing that, I don't have them anymore. I don't have them either. So wild.
SPEAKER_03Um, I was gonna say something that might be controversial because this is something that I've done ever since I I did buy like uh little like rooted cuttings of shrubs and stuff from like tractor supply. So like I've gotten like lilac starts for very cheap and they actually do grow.
SPEAKER_04Are you talking about like they've got like they're in like the little tall boxes?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they're all in like car well, not yeah, yeah, yeah. They're in the tall little box and they're helping like a little cardboard shelving thing. Yes. And I actually have had printing guns and sounds like that.
SPEAKER_01That's actually a lilac plant from I think I bought it from Tractor Supply, and I'm still just it's very slowly. Do you okay?
SPEAKER_04Do you have a tip though, like how to pick a good one off that rack?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, don't buy one that's in bloom.
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SPEAKER_03If it's still in its little cutting thing and it's in bloom, no problem. But if you very early in the season, you have to get them because later they're stressed. They've been in that bag, they're not getting nutrients, they're just sitting there. Like Costco just set theirs out a couple weeks ago.
SPEAKER_04Do we need to see like green leaves?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, definitely you would want to, it wouldn't, you wouldn't want a green leaf like out, especially not early. Buds. Buds on it would be good. Um, and just yeah, like one that looks healthy in in like length. I don't try and get the ones that are spindly. Definitely one that looks like dried out, don't get that. But like if you get them home and get them planted pretty quickly, you can have good luck from it.
SPEAKER_04Like, would you buy like a raspberry bush? Because I see those a lot. Would you buy a raspberry bush?
SPEAKER_03Raspberries are really hardy. So, like those ones, I would honestly, you could probably even get blueberries if you just bought them. Pay attention to the type. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Look up your types that you can plant in your area.
SPEAKER_03You also have to get ones that uh for blueberries, they have to cross pollinate in order to have berries. So like that. The reason I didn't buy those there is like I don't know they typically do have on their little labels, like this one works well with this one, and and they usually carry both. So you can do that. But I I mean, I bought them once, I put them in the wrong spot entirely. They're in shade right now and they did not do well. So we're trying again with Indiana Berry and hopefully gonna get better success. But I will say I have like a little, I bought a tiny, tiny, tiny, like struggling lilac from uh tractor supply, and it's still small. I don't have it in the best spot right now, but like it's gonna bloom this year, and I'm I'm like, okay, like I I spent maybe you know, six bucks, maybe, maybe I think it was probably less than that, probably like four. Yeah, which is a price of a seed packet, you know.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I mean for and for a perennial plant, like I would totally do that.
SPEAKER_03Right, exactly. Like I'm just putting it out there. It's a lilac that like I didn't plan to cut off of it anytime soon, but it's white and I wanted it, so I just bought it and I put it out there.
SPEAKER_01I think I'm on year three of mine. And it it seemed a little bit bushier last year. We'll see what it does this year.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I think it's like the peas you buy at Lowe's. Yeah, it's a waiting game.
SPEAKER_01It's yeah, and if you're doing it for farming, you're not time is money, so yeah, but if you're not, I mean that's for your garden for people, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Like I bought a bunch of shade garden stuff because I'm not planning to cut it, it's just meant for my garden. So like my hostas, I bought hostas in a box. And like those are just it's I just don't want to spend the money in a garden center. Hostas? Oh yeah, because you could get it from them from anywhere. But the thing is, I having to go like ask to split off of somebody's like big blue hosta, like those big, big blue, like some people are sort of protective about their like their big hostas, right? Like, I don't want to divide that thing, it looks beautiful and I got it that big. So like I I hate to ask somebody to like divide that one.
SPEAKER_01So that's you want any variegated ones. I have variegated ones.
SPEAKER_03I have like 200 of those and I will split mine all day long because I've got 200 of them. Yeah, but the big blues, like nobody really wants to cut theirs up.
SPEAKER_04But it is, I mean, splitting a lot of plants is good for them after a while. Yeah. So if you have people who are you are comfortable with, or maybe they love gardening too and they understand that splitting plants is actually good for them, yeah. Um, it's worth an ask. So you don't like uh your hearty geranium. Oh, yeah. I see that at the store all the time. I want some really bad, but you're always like, I don't know. So I'm just like, okay, I'll hold off and I won't spend money on that because I have someone offering. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No need for that.
SPEAKER_01I was gonna say something that came to mind when we were talking is don't buy or I want it by. I made this mistake of buying roses at the they're like really inexpensive, they're $14, but um, they are grafted and they're just I'm ripping mine out now. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04It's just it's trial and error, but you know, just pay attention where you're doing it.
SPEAKER_01Just ask us if if you're thinking about buying something from a big box store or nursery, yeah. We we might have had experience with them.
SPEAKER_04But also happy hunting because it's really fun. It is so fun and enjoy it. Yeah, but it is the season.
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