What you can STILL plant in late June!

As Gals who are known to grow all sorts of things, we get this question a LOT.

"Oh no...It's almost July and I haven't planted so many things in my garden yet.  Is it too late?!" 

The answer will surprise and please you all.  The answer is....no!  It's not too late at all!  Here in Zone 6a, we are still 117-ish days out from our estimated first frost date, and so many flowers and veggies can be seeded AND harvested within that time frame.

We talk about this and more in this week's episode of the Gals Who Grow.  Get your seed packets and buckle up, friends!  This one is full of fun and great tips for you to still have a fantastic garden season!

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Hi, I'm Monica with Lulu the A Field. And I'm Cassie with Coppertop Gardens. And I'm Bailey with How Home and Garden. We have been cultivating our gardens and farms for years now, but something really special was sowed when we met and began working together.

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Our shared passion for growing the best local flowers and food has made us realize the impact it's had in not only our own homes, but also in our local community.

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We are the gals who grow, and we can't wait to inspire you to grow too.

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Hey Siri. How many days until October 19th?

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It's 119 days until then.

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And what's October 19th?

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Our predicted first frost.

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Is it really?

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Yeah. That seems like a long time. We got lots of time. That's what it was last year, at least.

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I was gonna say, what is the historic one though?

SPEAKER_02 0:56

Um, I mean, that's what it normally is. So last frost Noblesville. Sorry guys, you're gonna have to look this up yourself if you don't live in Noblesville. If you don't live in Noblesville, Last Frost, your city. Sorry, First Frost. Oh yeah, first frost. Sorry, sorry.

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First, first frost.

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Okay, so basically, I think last year it came the 24th.

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Which is pretty on par because it's usually like something to October 25th.

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Yep. Quick Google search says the 10th to the 15th.

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Oh my gosh, mine says the 11th to the 20th. Well, you know, across town changes things.

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We are yeah, we are in microclimate.

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I guess so. They're like on your specific property.

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Okay, so basically we have time to plant a lot of things still.

SPEAKER_02 1:50

Yeah. We are talking about what we could still plant because everyone is asking us do we still have time to plant stuff? I still get nervous about it.

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But I did just plant a whole bunch of stuff because I was like, I got time, I gotta do it. So I actually just I still have things that I need to plant.

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I have two more beds to fill.

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So I'm like, okay, let's do this. Have three 100-foot rows that are all I do the bunnies just moved out of my uh the bunnies moved out. The bunnies moved out of my ranunculus bed so I can finally take my ranunculus up and use that bed.

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Are they off to college? Where did they decide to go?

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No, actually they just This is so funny. They actually live in the back garden and Joey and I they like run around us when we're out there because they're not afraid of us.

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Yeah.

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And yeah, so we were out there the other day, and Joe Joey's decided that he wants to name them after the little rascals' characters. So he was like, that one's Spanky. And I said one of them has to be Buster because it just I don't know. Buster was like the most chill. Spanky was like running around, like he got the zoomies like while we were out there, so he was like running back and forth. So like we're just seeing him through the trellis, like running back and forth. It was it was very cute, but yeah, they live out there, so no, they've not gone to college, they're still eating us out of house and home. But they do go after crabgrass, they do, so yeah. It was in my bed of roses where I have Nigella planted, and I Buster was in there and just sitting and just munching, and I was like, gosh darn it, he's eating my Nigella. And I looked out there and nope, he was going for the little pieces of crabgrass coming up in between. How do we get him to attack the thistle? I don't know. That's my next I I we Joey and I were joking about it. Like, how can we train them? Do we like give them a treat when they eat the crabgrass and then when they eat the Nigella, chase them off? Or I don't know, but we have noticed they like they really do go after the weeds, which is sort of nice. That is really nice. They eat the bind weed in the front garden. Oh. I have like 400 bunnies in my yard at any given time.

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And she's basically allowed them to be pets at this point in time, naming them.

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I am naming them. Are you actually you guys would name them too?

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They're freaking cute. Are you getting your own food from your garden? Or is it no for the bunnies?

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I pretty much have taken all of the strawberries. We get the peppers because they don't touch those. We get the garlic, we get the onions, we get the things that are in the ground that they can't get to. Um Bunnies don't dig. They did eat our first two tomatoes. What? I went out there and was like, look at these two tomatoes. Two bite marks on each side of them. Well, does that mean they don't like them then? Yeah, I don't think they do. But they were figuring that out. They hadn't they hadn't figured that out yet.

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Like, how do you have tomatoes already though? Yeah, I just saw my first little like baby beep beep.

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But I didn't I did plant mine late. You planted yours early. We do plant very early. Yes.

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Remember, we've started ours in like February. Oh, I I recall the different trees by the time they got put outside. But yeah, we we do have two on the table over there that finally came on top of the ones that got eaten. But yeah, they the bunnies do eat a lot. They eat a lot of our plants. But at a certain point in time, you're like, but the cuteness does sort of outweigh it. You know?

SPEAKER_04 5:18

I don't think it does. I think we're different in that area.

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I don't even think my dog's cute anymore.

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We're gonna post.

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We're going to post a little video of Buster and Spanky, and you guys are gonna be like, no, you're right. They should be able to eat whatever they want. Okay, I did think they were cute in the last year when they were little.

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In your garden, they're safe. Don't come to mine.

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Cassie gonna kill you.

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I just don't, I'm not here for that.

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We will get our baby guns out. I mean, do you recall that Joey accidentally killed one with a rock?

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Oh, yes, and he felt so guilty. No joke.

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Yeah, and he felt so guilty.

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Bailey, I was shoveling my wood chips in my pitch ball, and all I could think of was you.

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We have told that story on here, right?

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It's just like a permanent phobia of mine now. And I did hit something. Oh my gosh. You heard it, you heard it go, no, thank God that's what I did. I hit something. And then at first I was like, oh, oh my god. And then I was like, king, king, king, king. And it was like metal. And I'm like, I was like, huh, that's strange.

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So it just like moved down, unless it's the tin man. That's not anything living.

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Let's just pretend that didn't happen. So I like scooted over to the side, and then I hit something else. I'm like, gosh dang.

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What did you did you find it? It was a shovel.

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Oh.

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What?

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Like a giant, awesome shovel. Oh my god. You got a free shovel in your mulch dropping? It was like the prize in the cereal box.

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Cassie did one of those free like mulch drops. Oh my god.

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And I got a free shovel. And it was like literally in the perfect middle of this pile.

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Oh, somebody totally lost that. They did. And it looks pretty new.

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Oh dude. And that's why it happens a lot. This person loses their shovel regularly into mulch files.

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It's a great, it's a great shovel. Okay, so what kind of okay, off record, I'm taking care of a company to call.

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I need some new shovels. They can leave a pitchfork in there too. Man, you're not kidding. I bought one and they are not cheap. No, they're not. Holy crazy. They're not. And they can kill.

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Yes, they can.

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They can totally kill. They can kill.

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They can kill.

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Just do not leave mulch piles and soil piles out for too long. That is my biggest word of caution.

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Mine's been out there since last fall.

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Just hit it with a shovel 300 times before you start to go into it, especially with a pitchfork. It's pretty thick. I don't think anything's in there. Never forget it. No. Mine was thick. Mine was thick.

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Soil? Mulch. Mulch. It was mulch. Mine's soil. Oh.

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Oh.

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Like, I don't think anything wants to be in that soil. It's voles and mulch.

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Filder.

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Filder. Oh gosh.

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We gotta stop. I'm like having GTSD.

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Flashbacks.

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Okay, anyway, so it's you still have time. Back on top. We have time to plant. Like, we were just talking about that before when we were figuring out what we were gonna talk about. Uh like July 4th is our general cutoff for like vegetables and cut flowers, right?

SPEAKER_02 8:47

Well, like stuff wants to go in the ground when it's cold, right? So you don't actually start them again. Like lettuce. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kale. Um so those would be those will be fall.

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So we'll say July 4th generally for our summer things. Yes, summer things.

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For sure. Um, which then you still have the next wave, which is like cold hardies that happen after. Yeah.

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So you're not done by any means. Yeah, you're not done, but for the things you want to harvest now. Yeah, if you want your traditional like summer garden and your summer flowers, like July 4th. July 4th. So it's coming up.

SPEAKER_02 9:20

Like you think we still have time to do that corn? Uh no. Cassie? No.

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You know, and I haven't been high by 4th of July. I bought corn seeds because I'm delusional. Oh my gosh. Share the next year. It's for next year. It's for next year.

SPEAKER_01 9:34

No, let's plant them this year. Dude, it won't work. It won't. Oh, it won't. Me high by 4th of July. No. Gotta be.

SPEAKER_04 9:41

It won't. I I think I think you need to. I think next year if we do blueberries instead. We did. We did. If I do corn next year, maybe like April.

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I want the ornamental. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. She said on that the painted corn or whatever it is.

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Okay, not the topics. Okay, yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_04 10:02

Sorry. Rapid fire, what we can still plant by the 4th of July. You guys said pumpkins. Yes, what I will be doing, I have some pumpkins. I have a pumpkin. But do they have to be the little pumpkins or can they be the big pumpkins? No, it can be the big ones. I think I have something. Long island cheese, which is. I'm sorry, what? It's a pumpkin. You've seen it. It's like one of those ornamental ones that they stack on top of each other. Like it's like a cutesy pumpkin. Oh. Yeah. So I think it's called Long Island Cheese. I got the seeds from the library, actually.

SPEAKER_02 10:34

Are you gonna like do them up your trellis?

SPEAKER_04 10:38

Probably. My third one that I still need to put up. So that may be like this coming weekend's project. But pumpkins, you can do other squashes. Um cucumbers. You could do watermelon. I haven't mastered that, so like I can't give you any tips on it. We try every year and we fail halfway.

SPEAKER_03 10:59

I think you gotta do it in a hot box if you want to do it. Literally build one of those glasses.

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Yes. Um yeah, they like it hot, hot. Green beans, you can do several successions of the city.

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I just planted those right before we came here.

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Yeah, I mean they grow. I have it's all out there. I'm gonna do I'm doing bush beans this year because I feel like I like those better.

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I'm so bad at my planting of vegetables, is like I do it once in the beginning of the year and then it's like and we're done with the food. Yeah. And that's it. But I know that's not the way it's really.

SPEAKER_04 11:26

Yeah, you can grow so much. I mean, I try to do the whole like if something's done and I pull it out, like what can I put there instead? So it's usually like a green bean. Yeah. Or a cucumber. Okay, so you just pulled all of your peas. So I'm putting bush beans there. Bush beans there.

SPEAKER_02 11:43

Um what else?

SPEAKER_01 11:45

What else? What else do you want to do?

SPEAKER_02 11:46

Okay, I have a sort of off-topic plan late last year. I mean, I just bought seeds and okra.

SPEAKER_03 11:52

But I I it's been weighing on me and I just need to know. If I have this really fine, yeah, I'm scared. I'm scared you guys won't know too, or be like, uh, or we'll kill somebody by accident.

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Okay.

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Lark spur, right? It's like super, super poisonous, right? Yes. If I am doing the chop and drop method and then I put something into the soil. No, it's fine. It is.

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Yeah. Yeah. Just don't eat the soil.

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Don't eat the soil. Don't eat the soil.

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And I I have done that and I'm still here.

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Okay. Are you talking about chopping all of your large spur down and like using it as a mulch?

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Yeah, because it's super like it's the thin stuff that's like left. Like clever.

SPEAKER_04 12:43

I I have that I did that in my front beds. Yeah, it protects the soil. The soil's clear.

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I just was getting nervous because I was like, it's supposedly very toxic. And if I want to put something edible in.

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No. I have not had an issue with that. Okay. Nor did I ever even think of it being an issue. So I just did it and I could be dead, but I'm not. But Cassie got lucky. I did. So I did.

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Okay, so everybody, you're in the clear. You can do that. Yep. I feel like Okay, I'm not even gonna say this. I just feel like you have to be really dumb to die from poisonous flowers. Knock on wood. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said that. Nobody eat anything that you're not sure of. The viral post where someone's like, I really like this Delphinium, but I heard it's poisonous, and then the lady's like holding her bouquet, and she's like, You're not gonna eat your bouquet, are you? Yeah.

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Like it's okay. Yep. These have been on tables for hundreds of years. No.

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Literally.

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Like fox gloves have been grown in every single one.

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What is scary is when you have a baby.

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Yeah, that's true.

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Anything that looks like a berry that is poisonous is actually dangerous because they will come along and pop it in their mouth. Yeah. So you do need to be careful if you have small, small children. Yeah. That's terrifying. I'm like, Olive isn't gonna pull anything off Mark's spur.

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Hopefully. Right? My niece did have uh I had given her um oh no. I'm thinking I'm blanking on the name. What's the little the balls that are Dianthus? Yeah sweet William. I'd given her one of the white sweet Williams and she was walking around in the yard, and I did not know this, but apparently she's in this stage where everything goes in the mouth. Oh. Turn around and she's got white petals on her lips. And I was like, smacked the sweet William out of her hand. And it was like, okay, quickly Googling, like, is this toxic? And it was like, no, it's not toxic. It's can cause some mild gastrointestinal distress. And I was like, okay. She did not eat it. She had just literally put it up to her nose to smell it, and some of the like petals had gotten stuck to her lips. I was like, okay.

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I was planting beans today with olive, and she I all I told her to do is like push it down into the ground. Like I was setting them, and then she was supposed to push them in. And the first one she picked up and put it in her mouth. I was like, no, no, spit it out. That's not good yet. She was so funny. Yeah. Technically, that would have been edible. I mean, yeah. What one was it? It was um a type of bean. Hold on, I can tell you in a second. I really wanted to grow beans this year, and Brandon was making beans at dinner time, and I'm like, I literally have a packet of beans. Like, we need to just I mean, they grow pretty fast. I want to start hyacinth bean. Derby beans. Oh, I have those started and I just pop more. I'm obsessed. Yeah, that's one a cut flour you can start now.

SPEAKER_04 15:48

Yep. You know what else? I'm gonna finish the food real quick.

SPEAKER_02 15:52

Oh, sorry, Cassie.

SPEAKER_04 15:53

No, it's okay. The beans, but you can still do like you can take your suckers off your tomatoes and root them real quick and then so it like speeds up. You have a whole second secession. What? Yes.

SPEAKER_02 16:09

Okay, Cassie. Okay, wait. Hitting us with that knowledge. You can you do a demo in your garden of this and a tag? I could, yeah. Uh gals to grow. Because you literally just like pull off a bottom branch. The sucker specifically. The diagonal.

SPEAKER_04 16:25

Yes. So tomatoes are weird. They're not really weird.

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The one that's going this way.

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It's like the one, it's like the one that grows in between the two. The main stem and the leaf nose.

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It's only the suckers because the suckers have the fruiting capabilities.

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Like not every branch on a tomato has the DNA in it to create a fruit.

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Okay, you've definitely showed this to me before. Yes.

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But that's okay. Screw it up. I can show you again. We're not going to be able to do that. So we can do that. It's like it's a cutting, technically, but it's speeds, so you don't have to re-sow tomatoes. You can just get a head start and it'll just be a clone of that first plant.

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Or if you have a friend who has tomatoes started and you want some. Or somebody's tomatoes and cherry diseased out.

SPEAKER_04 17:10

I don't have any cherry tomatoes.

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I did, but I think. I probably have some suckers out there if you want them.

SPEAKER_02 17:14

Yeah, okay. Do you just stick them right in the dirt? Yeah.

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You want to yeah. Water them. Yeah. I might try to get mine to grow roots first before I plant them because I tried the just pick and stick last year and it didn't work. The pick and stick. Pick and stick.

SPEAKER_02 17:29

Do you drop it in water?

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Yeah. So it'd be like cutting basil and then putting it in a glass of water and it roots. It's a lot like that.

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So wild. The propagation just fascinates me.

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It's like plants just want to freaking grow.

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But I screw it out all the time.

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I know. No, it's hard. It's hard. So that would be my list of things you can still sew right now when we're going into what will be probably the hottest part of the year.

SPEAKER_03 17:56

And just because I I want to say that even though you we're saying that okay, you have until July 4th to plant, you actually still have time that you need to plant in this year in order to start blooms earlier for next year. And those are the cold hardies. So we have a cold hardy episode we did last year. You should go and listen to that in order to plan your seed order for around the time of July because some of those have to get started in July so that they're blooming. So just a just a thought. You're not done planting in July, you need to get some more seeds.

SPEAKER_04 18:32

I mean, you could be both. You could be, but it's that's not fun. The thing about gardening is if you like ham, yeah, get the seeds in the garden.

SPEAKER_02 18:41

You want to call yourself a gardener.

SPEAKER_04 18:42

Like yeah, right. If you're not constantly planting something, then you're not a gardener. You're full of regret. You're not a gal who grows.

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I'm totally kidding. There's so many years that we do I have fallen off the bandwagon and only planted one sewing in the beginning of the year and then it's done.

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I will say I didn't get on my cold hardy's as much as I would have liked last year. Fully regretted your page.

SPEAKER_04 19:16

You're just like, the amount of times that I've been upset with past me. Yep. And my my past me's time management skills when it comes to this stuff. I'm like, what was I thinking? What am I doing? And then I look around and I'm like, there's not shit out here. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 19:31

And it's all my fault. I know that I put it in like maybe raising two small children. You're like, what the hell have I been doing? Being a full-time working woman.

SPEAKER_03 19:42

Uh like just twiddling my thumb. Doing nothing. She built an entire new garden this year. I've done absolutely nothing. Only 12 raised beds filled and planted up.

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Relocated, relocated all of my old ones apart.

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God, what a disgrace. We're revoking your galzucross dead. You're not one. You don't have what it takes. I'm sorry. You are the weakest link. Goodbye.

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Well crap.

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I've done seeds. I'm discerned. You'll be fine. I think I've proven that I can grow a lot of um weeds. And that I think I've proven that I grow a lot of stuff. Yeah, so you are totally a cows. I grow everything. I grow everything and nothing. For the bunnies. Nothing gets pulled. Bailey doesn't discriminate. I don't. If it wants to grow, it should be allowed. All welcome. All are welcome. All are welcome. Even if they eat everything except the thistles that are about to flower, those suckers do get pulled. That's the only weed that I've been pulling. Oh man. I do have some of those. Those are inside my head. I would recommend anybody out there who is growing things that has a thistle with a flower on it, go pull it before you regret your life next year. Yeah. Ten times over. Yeah, those are bad.

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Those are bad. But we were outside working in the garden the other day, and Poppy goes, Mommy, how come that looks like a dandelion, but it has pokies all over it? And I was like, Oh my gosh. She's like, get back. Chop, chop, chop, chopped it down real fast. And she goes, Why'd you kill that flower, Mom? Because that was not a flower.

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Like it. I gave Liam his little punching gloves and I was like, you can go do whatever you want to that one. And he was just like, really? And it it looks so gnarled and mangled now, but it doesn't have a flower anymore. Okay. That's one way to do it. Send them over here. Finish pulling it later. But I was like, fun was had here.

SPEAKER_03 21:50

I have like four thousand thistles in the front by the peonies. Like four, like seriously, I'm not I'm not overestimating that number.

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I mean, it's terrible.

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It is wild.

SPEAKER_02 22:00

Can you spray vinegar on them?

SPEAKER_03 22:02

I can. What I'm gonna do though is the ones that are in the path between them, I'm just gonna put cardboard and mulch over. I've just decided that we're cutting our losses with that.

SPEAKER_04 22:11

I've been saving my Aldi bags like in nobody's business because I'm just gonna start like tiling the I learned this from my friend Joan.

SPEAKER_02 22:21

And you can go to Costco and get the little cardboard pieces, the flat cardboard that they put in between like the um palettes. Pallett. Yes. Yeah, to separate the layers like in detergent. And they'll give them to you for free, and they are perfect for that.

SPEAKER_03 22:40

For like that sort of thickness that's enough.

SPEAKER_04 22:43

Is this what we call sheet mulching? I don't know. Is that what that's called? I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 22:48

But yeah, that's my strategy for it. This is not necessarily something you can plant now, but I'm just saying don't regret your if we're talking about regret not pulling a thistle, you will regret.

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Yeah, you will.

SPEAKER_02 22:59

How are we on time? Because I was gonna throw out a couple of flowers. Yeah, we got to plant. Do the flowers. Yeah. Well, and the fall stuff that you want to plant to eat, right? Because there's definitely lettuce. You can do a second round. It's the shoulder seasons that you plant, like your carrots, your beets, your radishes. You can Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:19

I mean it's the same. It's like a cold hardy. Like start them in July. So yeah. Lettuces, kale, spinach. When would you start those, Cassie? Probably like I would start them in a perfect world.

SPEAKER_02 23:32

Mid-July. Oh, you would start them as early as mid-July.

SPEAKER_03 23:36

Yeah, because surprisingly it takes a while to get some of them large enough. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:41

Some of them just don't grow quickly.

SPEAKER_02 23:43

Oh, you plant them inside.

SPEAKER_04 23:45

Mm-hmm. Especially the brats because it's too hot for them outside. Okay. In July.

SPEAKER_02 23:50

But yeah. And then plant them out like Labor Day weekend.

SPEAKER_04 23:53

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 23:55

Or in September. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:56

Yeah. It's it's literally like cold hardy schedule. But so like your fall your fall food crops, we can follow the same as the cold hardy schedule. Okay. Which would be sow your seeds July 4th ish, make sure they're outside again, Labor Day.

SPEAKER_03 24:11

Guys, you're making me itchy. I want to plant more. I literally just sowed all of my trays. My favorite activity is starting seeds. I literally just sowed six trays literally two days ago. So now I'm like, I shouldn't start more of those now, but I want to.

SPEAKER_02 24:28

Honestly, I want to be like the town seed starter. Yeah. Like you are your starts from me. You are. Because then you can plant them and I don't have to stress out about them being planted. Because I still have things that haven't been planted. The other day I told Brandon, I was like, let's really just try and get everything in the ground this week. And he's like, I feel like you've been saying that since April. Because I have. I have.

SPEAKER_03 24:56

And it still hasn't happened so far. Your plants are like massive and beautiful in their tiny little seed trays. Like, put me out.

SPEAKER_02 25:03

I mean, I've potted them up, but part of it is that we were starting new beds. That is a huge part of it.

SPEAKER_04 25:10

Literally, that is a good tip. Like, if you are planning to start your garden, like build in some extra time because it takes a long time. Yeah, like doing it.

SPEAKER_03 25:21

Or just like if you if you're like interested in gardening, put some beds in now for next year.

SPEAKER_04 25:26

That's actually even better. Like I can't wait until next year because all of my stuff will be moved and then I can just go out there and like plant. I've not been able to do that for six years. Yeah. Because I've been shuffling crap around.

SPEAKER_02 25:40

Here you go. Here's here's the hot tip. If you want a spring garden, you have to start killing the grass now.

unknown 25:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:50

Because then it's a baseball because you're just gonna be wishing you did.

SPEAKER_02 25:55

Well, and some people don't I know.

SPEAKER_03 25:59

You can also buy metal raised beds. You can also do raised beds with like literally sticks on the sides. That is true.

SPEAKER_02 26:08

But if you just want like a tiny little circle, like go put some terracotta pots in the grass and kill it.

SPEAKER_03 26:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:16

You know what I mean? Like anybody can grow a garden. Yep. You might only have literally 100 square feet available.

SPEAKER_03 26:25

But kill it now. For next spring. But if they have ground right now, what can they still sow? That's a few flowers.

SPEAKER_02 26:31

Sorry. I'm so bad at saying we're passionate about this general area. Basically, anything that is got a maturity date that is less than 119 days. So zinnias. So we've got zinnias, loja, sunflowers. I just planted Cosmos. Um my hanging amarants got started today. Ooh.

SPEAKER_03 26:55

Pretty Snapdragons. You can sew the two and three. Oh. Only until the beginning of or actually like right now. Like mid-June.

SPEAKER_02 27:07

Two and three.

SPEAKER_03 27:08

Two and three. The types two and three. What are the potomics?

SPEAKER_02 27:13

You can still play at Potomics.

SPEAKER_03 27:15

Yeah. But danger.

SPEAKER_02 27:16

Just for one more.

SPEAKER_03 27:18

Just one more sewing. I wish I had done another one in between. You could do cuttings too. Um, I wish I'd started one in between. I meant to do more succession sewings of them because I love the Snapdragons. I love Snapdragons.

SPEAKER_02 27:30

There are so many Snapdragons in. There's not very many people who want to buy Snapdragons this year.

SPEAKER_04 27:36

Which is so weird because they're beautiful.

SPEAKER_03 27:38

I think they do very well in um like retail bouquets. Like if you if you put them at your stand, I think they do very well in those.

SPEAKER_04 27:46

They're just a very recognizable flower. They smell so good. They're like bubblegum.

SPEAKER_03 27:52

I think they're beautiful. They're so pretty.

SPEAKER_02 27:54

I would do like just a straight vase of snapdragons.

SPEAKER_03 27:57

Oh, some of those have been like I when I have done that in the past around 4th of July time, people have literally been like, those are just the prettiest flowers I've ever seen. And I'm like, I love them.

SPEAKER_02 28:07

I will always grow Snapdragons because they are one of my favorites. And they do, they smell so good.

SPEAKER_03 28:12

For a cut though, you pretty much always have to grow them as like an annual style rather than keeping them as a perennial. They will live, but the next year they're just much smaller and less they're more dinky and their blooms aren't like the massive, beautiful, yeah. But yeah, they are very rewarding. So if you can keep on the succession and learn about the different, like maybe we'll do a Snapdragon episode sometime and talk about figure this thing out. I have listened endlessly. If you if you want to know now, the crash course is to go look up Dave Dowling on Spotify and listen to all of his talks on Snapdragons.

SPEAKER_02 28:49

Oh, yeah. He did a he taught a class in um I did DirtCon this year. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:57

It was like a two-day Dave Dowling is a wealth of knowledge to the point that's like a crazy amount of knowledge. I am so impressed by him. So if you want to know now, look up him. But he was saying like mid-June, mid to late June would be like the latest you could do Snapdragon. So I I did it really fast because I was like, we'll see. We'll see if I can have fall snaps.

SPEAKER_02 29:20

I'm gonna try and grow some fall stock this year.

SPEAKER_03 29:22

Yeah, I've never talked about that before on one of his episodes. I should be around. I've never grown stock that.

SPEAKER_04 29:30

Do we have time for more straw flour in that little winged everlasting Anobium? I feel like that one grows fast.

SPEAKER_03 29:39

Yeah. Um, if you like winged everlasting, there is a native version called Pearly Everlasting. And I'm pretty sure a perennial.

SPEAKER_02 29:49

Hmm. Interesting. If you want some like maho um some like what am I trying to say? Burgundy like fall colors, mahogany splendor.

SPEAKER_03 29:59

You are you have like the mahogany splend. It's pretty. I can't get my amaranth to look good because it's your amaranth. You mean your mahogany splendor? Is mahogany splendor? Isn't it an amaranth?

SPEAKER_02 30:13

No, mahogany splendor is a um like a greenery, but it's burgundy. But isn't a it looks like maple leaves kind of. The hanging amaranth does grow in pretty burgundy too. Oh, mahogany splendor it's a hibiscus?

SPEAKER_04 30:28

Yes, it's a it's not tender hibiscus.

SPEAKER_02 30:32

Very easy to start from seed. Yes. Just direct sew it.

SPEAKER_03 30:36

Wow, I did not know that. I always thought it was an amaranth, but you always talk about it.

SPEAKER_02 30:40

Yeah, mahogany splendor is nice because it's like chunky, greenery, that's not green. It's so that's like a lot of options.

SPEAKER_03 30:50

It is a lot of options. Oh, yeah. You got a lot out there.

SPEAKER_02 30:52

It's so funny people still ask me if they have time, and I just Yes, it's you have all the time. The not all the time garden centers make you think that you only have this time to plant, but really when's the last succession of like zenius that you do?

SPEAKER_04 31:08

They don't they usually take like 70 days?

SPEAKER_03 31:11

They're 60. But you also want to be able to harvest them for like more than a day, right? Like Monica's like, just one day. One day I'll grab them. We're done. I'd say August, like the first beginning of August.

SPEAKER_02 31:27

Week of August. Our last front frost date, or our first frost date, it keeps getting later and later and later. Yeah. And if you really want to, it's usually like a zap and then it warms back up. So if you really wanted to, you could protect things. Which I'm definitely entertaining this year. Because fall weddings are just becoming more and more popular.

SPEAKER_04 31:50

Yep. For sure. So guys get the but to your point about the garden centers, if you're not starting from seed and you're buying from the garden centers, like go soon. Yeah, because it's because they do start changing things over annoyingly early.

SPEAKER_02 32:03

Oh my gosh, it's so annoying. It's like August first school. Back to school. It's mom season. Yeah, there's a there's no plants anymore.

SPEAKER_03 32:10

So true. It's always the like yellow and purple pink moms out there.

SPEAKER_04 32:14

Literally. So, yes, but and if you have questions, if you can still sew something, you can just ask us. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 32:21

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 32:21

Send us a message. If you're putting all these things in, you also need to take care of them. So listen to next week episode to talk. We're gonna talk about all the things that we're doing to maintain those things that we're putting in now and during the season of drought. So see you senior. Yes. Come back then and you'll find out more.

SPEAKER_02 32:41

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