Hidden Chapters: Real Stories that Bring Light to the Hidden Parts of Life

What Real Inclusion Looks Like: Disablity, Ableism, and Advocacy with Jenna Udenberg

• Hidden Chapters • Season 3 • Episode 11

Use Left/Right to seek, Home/End to jump to start or end. Hold shift to jump forward or backward.

0:00 | 53:39

Send me a message via text or voicemail!

šŸŽ™ļø  Episode Summary

What does real inclusion actually look beyond good intentions and surface level awareness? 

In this episode, I get to sit down with educator, author, and accessibility advocate Jenna Udenberg, founder of Above and Beyond with U, for an honest conversation about disability, ableism, and what true advocacy requires.

Jenna shares her experience living with juvenile idiopathic arthritis and unpacks the realities that often go unseen, including the pressure to be labeled ā€œinspiring,ā€ the complexity within disability culture, and the emotional weight of navigating a world that wasn’t built with accessibility in mind.

We talk about the difference between performative inclusion and real, lived inclusion, and the deeper internal work it takes to recognize and dismantle ableism in our everyday lives.

This conversation invites you to rethink accessibility, challenge your assumptions, and consider what it really means to see people fully.

 šŸ“– Jenna’s Hidden Chapter

Jenna’s hidden chapter is the part of her story before she had the language to understand her own identity.

It’s the years of navigating a world that didn’t fully see or reflect her experience. Before discovering disability culture. Before realizing she didn’t have to earn belonging by being palatable, agreeable, or ā€œinspiring.ā€

That chapter led her to a pivotal moment of self-recognition, where she could finally look at herself and see her whole identity clearly. That truth now shapes the work she does and the way she shows up in advocacy.

šŸŽ§  Who This Episode Is For

It’s for educators, parents, advocates, and leaders who want to move beyond performative inclusion and step into something more honest and impactful.

It’s for those living with chronic illness or disability who are still navigating what it means to fully embrace their identity.

And it’s for anyone willing to sit with discomfort, reflect honestly, and do the deeper work of understanding themselves and others.

You don’t have to have a disability to be part of this conversation.

Resources Mentioned

Connect with Jenna

🌐 aboveandbeyondwithu.org 

Support the show

🌐  Visit my website: https://hiddenchapterspodcast.com/ and stay connected! 

šŸŽ™ļø  Want to be a guest on Hidden Chapters: Real Stories that Bring Light to the Hidden Parts of Life? Send me a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/genevievekruger




 šŸŽµ Background Music: "In Time" by Folk_acoustic from Pixabay