Becoming Unstoppable - Rise, Thrive and Lead with Impact
Becoming Unstoppable is the go-to podcast for fierce female entrepreneurs ready to expand their empires with unapologetic growth, energy mastery, and bold, soul-aligned strategy. Hosted by mindset coach and manifesting queen Rachel Jackson, each episode delivers big energy, real talk, and magnetic tools to help you scale with purpose and become truly unstoppable.
Becoming Unstoppable - Rise, Thrive and Lead with Impact
From Burnout to Beach Life: Redesigning Your 40s with Gemma Jackson
Off the Timeline: Letting Go of the ‘Shoulds’ and Building a Soul-Led Life at 40
Forty, single, and child-free—with none of the traditional boxes ticked—Gemma Jackson reached a moment of truth that many women silently wrestle with.
After years of comparing herself to others, chasing external validation, and feeling like a failure for not hitting society’s “success” milestones, Gemma made a radical decision: she chose herself.
In this honest and deeply inspiring conversation, Gemma shares how she went from corporate burnout and quiet dissatisfaction to becoming an online business owner, content creator, and digital nomad. From navigating a personal awakening during a friend’s health crisis, moving to Ibiza over the summer, and eventually landing in Bali with an accountability partner she’d never even met in person—this is a story of brave, bold reinvention.
🔥 We talk about:
- Breaking free from the traditional life timeline
- Moving through burnout, fear and the illusion of “stability”
- Starting a business at 40 with no roadmap—just a deep inner nudge
- Manifestation, messy action and the power of trusting yourself
- Sharing vulnerable content and growing an engaged community online
- Living a life that feels rich and aligned (even if it looks nothing like you imagined)
Gemma’s words will land deeply if you’ve ever found yourself asking: “Is this really it?”
Her reminder? You’re never too late, too old, or too far behind to pivot, rise, and create something wildly beautiful from your truth.
“I was just existing, not living.” — Gemma Jackson
Listen now and get ready to feel seen, stirred, and inspired to shake off the ‘shoulds’ and step into your own timeline.
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Rachel xxx
Hi everyone, welcome to today's podcast episode. I am so excited to introduce my guest. Gemma Jackson is one of my friends we used to work together and she's actually the person who got me into the secret in the first place, so started me on my manifesting journey and Gemma is an online business owner and content creator. I will hand over to her to introduce herself properly and start to tell you a bit about her story and her journey. So, hi, gem.
Speaker 2:Hi Rach, and first of all, just thank you for having me my first podcast. I'm very excited to be here. So, yeah, a bit about me. So I am 40 and I'm from a small town, obviously not too far from where you live, and I've always grown up expecting life to happen a certain way, as I think most of us did. So, yeah, I'm 40. I'm not married, I'm not, I don't have any children and I'm kind of just yeah, for years have floated through life trying to get that and I've given myself a really, really hard time for not achieving what I thought I should be and what society expects of me. And so, yeah, I went to university. I came back from uni and just expected to have the know, get the house, get the husband, have children, settle down all of that, and it just never happened for me. And I've spent most of my adult life I'm not gonna lie comparing my life to others, you know, and feeling like I was a complete failure and that there was something wrong with me. Um, it was. I'd never expected to.
Speaker 2:I never thought travel was for me. I just always had it ingrained in my head I don't know whether it was just from growing up that traveling was for other people and I was to get a job and you know, and have that family life. But I suppose it's what I've seen all around me. So I think my first love of travel kind of started at the beginning of like my well, early 30s and I went to Australia for four weeks just on a holiday with one of my best friends and it really kind of opened me up a little bit. So I loved it, I absolutely loved it, but again never really thought that kind of lifestyle was for me. And then, um, you know, my 30s, I had a job, I was earning good money, but I just wasn't happy and I have, I don't think I've been happy for a long time. I'd, you know, I was in my lovely house, I had a mortgage and you know you get hiding on all of that and I just never really yeah, just really really gave myself a hard time.
Speaker 2:So it was when covid hit. That's when I really made a change. My mental health wasn't good. Um, I realized that I needed to do something to make my feet myself feel better, you know, and it was. I didn't drink because, covid, I was terrified of feeling, you know, that it hurt, like the negativity from the drink blues. So I just got into, you know, exercise daily. But also that's when I got into like my meditation, journaling and more that kind of positive mindset, mindfulness and I know you helped me with that as well in lockdown and then life starts lifing again and I got I got a really I got a really good job.
Speaker 2:Um, but with that job as a manager came additional responsibilities and pressure and I just got to a point where I was like I was just it's just the same mundane routine cycle and I know you go to work nine to five, but it was just it was chipping away at me and life wasn't happening and I still was just like is this, it is this my life until I retire? And then in my job, one of my best friends, she, got sick. So I had a couple of things happen in my personal life that made me kind of stop in my tracks. So she got sick and it just made me realize that life is really short and seeing her go through all of that it sort of made me realize actually, you know you can work really good job and get the good money, but what are we doing? It's kind of I didn't want to work till I was at retirement age, be stressed out till I get to retirement and then start living my life, because you just don't know what's around the corner.
Speaker 2:And as well, I also came to a point I wanted a holiday. I wanted a holiday and I was like my family they all had their family holidays booked. My friends they couldn't afford it. The ones that were able to go away. And I thought, well, if I want a holiday, I'm gonna have to go on my own. And I remember having a conversation with you and I was saying I just need a beach and a bar somewhere quiet and I'll go. And you're like Gemma, why aren't you going to IB? For you love it. And I was like never really thought, um, so I reached out to my friend who lives there and he was like Gemma, there's something for everyone here. And I had that holiday and that just opened me up to just so much more.
Speaker 2:And then it's kind of all started from those things happening. Last year I quit my job. I got to a point where I decided I wanted to try and live out in Ibiza. So I quit my job. I was at burnout, but I needed to quit my job to move abroad. So it kind of broke that cycle and I started an online business.
Speaker 2:And then I've just when I was out in Ibiza, you were one of them again um, who'd sent to me? You'd kept sending me these little videos on TikTok, it's like those little nudges, um. So I created a TikTok account, which I just thought TikTok was for dancing and doing all that kind of stuff. And then I just, yeah, started vlogging and it's just kind of grown from there and I've got two platforms that are doing quite well and I'm just sharing my story. And now my whole perspective on life has changed. I don't see that as a priority anymore the marriage and the kids anymore. I don't see that as a priority anymore the marriage and the kids anymore. It's about actually creating my own life the way I want to. You know, live it. And I said I was talking about this to somebody yesterday how like actually it's you grow up and there's already. You follow what society's expecting, you know what's coming. You, that's where you're heading. But actually I'm now trying to carve out a new life for myself and figure out my own blueprint.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, I love that, gem, and you touched on so many things there so I'll just recap for people listening. But the bit around just following that path that you think you should have or you get into a point where you feel like I should have this by now and that can put so much pressure on you. But then you also touched on burnout in your job and having that. So a couple of things you've really done along that journey is just being so brave. Firstly, taking the solo holiday trip, which some people wouldn't do in their own right, and then going there's got to be more and actually taking that leap of leaving a well-paid, well-established job and taking a chance on your business to do it full time, even though at that point you were growing it, it was building and you were just finding your feet. But to be able to do that and still be here, however, months on, 12, 14 months on, whatever it is, and be still at it and not having a job in that time, what we call the so-called, you know, normal job. But really you're doing it and you're living that dream of traveling because we'll get on to where else you've been. But it's just that courage of taking the leap.
Speaker 1:And yeah, I know you're. We know each other personally so I know how much of an overthinker you are. So I know people listening to my podcast they'll be like. They're often like Rachel just dives in head first. And I do because I am an action taker and I know that and I know sometimes it's a bit easier for me because I do have internal dialogue if anybody. But I'm not as much of an overthinker as maybe Gemma is, and for Gemma to do this and still have those internal dialogue going on and take that leap like that's incredible. So let's break down how much that has helped you really break that cycle of burnout and overthinking.
Speaker 2:Really yeah, yeah and I think I've.
Speaker 2:I've backed myself and I've trusted, even though not knowing, can't see what's ahead of me, I've just felt those, felt guided and followed what's felt right for me and said no to things that actually I could have. Like last year, I turned down a job because it just didn't feel right for me and, um, yeah, it's been a lot of trust and I look and I, you know, people say you're brave and I'm like, but I don't know, am I? But yeah, I suppose, yeah, I am, and I've got to give myself credit for that and we've. I think, being single as well, you've got to do everything on your own. Everything is um, and I've got to make these big decisions on my own, and they've been. You know that I haven't made easy decisions. Leaving my job wasn't an easy decision, um, but I had.
Speaker 1:I just had to do it yeah, and I think that's really key, isn't it? You know you haven't got those people to bounce off you. We talk through a lot of stuff, but it it's not necessarily someone that you would have as a partner to help you decide. It's pros and cons to that, I suppose, but you know it is brave to think of. There's only me who's paying my mortgage and there's only me who's doing all these things.
Speaker 2:But you've proved that there is always a way to do something yeah, absolutely and I think it's that, like I touched on earlier, that I don't have anyone to kind of follow. No one's done this before. In like my family and you know around me, yeah, people went traveling, but 20 years ago, like I'm 40 and now I'm I think people think I've lost the plot, but I'm just like this is it just feels right for me and I thought I can't, I can't keep. Is this my life? I just feel like I'm existing, I don't feel like I'm living. And don't get me wrong, there's moments now where I still have those moments where I feel like that, but I know that I'm moving towards where I want to be and it's.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's a lot of trust, a lot of trust, but I just my gut is telling me keep going yeah, and you know, since you have quit your job and you know, really kind of got yourself on track with health wise, because your job was impacting your health really, wasn't it in the end? And you've now started to move forward in your business and, obviously, travel. You've done a lot of traveling since you've you've left, so share a bit more on that, because this is a real passion for you, isn't it?
Speaker 2:it is and like it's a big, wide world out there, and it's just completely opened my eyes. So I obviously wanted to move to Ibiza. But Brexit has made things difficult for us, because you can't just go out there and work anymore. You need a visa. So that was why I wanted to work online, because there's ways of getting visas doing it that way, and I just wanted to get a job on a bar. That's all I wanted, no responsibilities. Get a job on a bar and then, like, pay my accommodation out there. But it just didn't happen that way. But I do genuinely believe that that's meant, that's been the way it's meant to have happened for me, because if I'd done that, I would have been comfortable, um. So, yeah, I went to Ibiza and the plan was to go out there for three months, but to start with and see if I could do it. But good old, good old, um, ibiza and Gemma, I'd choose, like, the most expensive one, the most expensive places to live, especially in the peak season, and it was just so expensive. So I did a month out there to start with and then I came back and then I got another. I got another just under a month. I think it was three weeks. And then I came back and I thought that was it, because my funds were like running down, and then I thought the dream for Bitha is over. And then I manifested, unbelievably, um, some money into my account, which was a good sum of money, and I got a house sitting job in Ibiza. So I got to live in a villa for a full month that could have been longer for free, all you know, all paid for which was just unbelievable.
Speaker 2:And then I came back from Ibiza and I was like right now, what? And I was like I just I don't know what, what I'm doing, I don't know, but in my online business you have to get an accountability buddy and you so somebody that's coming at the same time as you so you can kind of keep each other accountable. And you know, and I met my friend Kirsten, who was my accountability buddy and she's just incredible and she's 10 years younger than me, but actually sometimes I think she's the older one, um, and she, she was just, she's just got this zest for life. And I remember being on a call with her one day and she said I'm taking two months sabbatical from work and I'm gonna go to Bali and work on my business and I was like, oh my god, that's amazing. And she says why don't you come?
Speaker 2:And I went, oh my god, and she's still on my tracks. And she and she said to me Gemma, she says I'm going to pull you. She says, because any time around money you always have like blocks, you always pause and like, and I was like, I know I do, it's something I need to overcome. But anyways, long story short. I thought actually I really want to, I really want to do this. So I made it happen and I sold my car and we went. I'd met this.
Speaker 1:I'd never met this person before in person, ever and we met for the first time in Heathrow airport and went traveling around Bali for two months that's incredible and I got to witness all the stories that you did at the time and they're all on Gemma's Instagram and things but it just seemed amazing. But you touched on something there, gem. I mean, first of all, manifesting. I remember God when I was in my lowest stage and you just watched the Secret and I think you'd used it to. You'd started using Manifesting to get a new job, which was the start of you getting into the job that you were actually in. But what? So? You got me into it because I was like, all right, the universe has told me like three times I'll go and watch it. So I got myself a glass of wine, went and watched it and had that big bang moment where I see myself stood on a stage. So you can thank Gemma that this podcast is even going, because she was that catalyst.
Speaker 1:But you use manifestation techniques in order to you keep up this lifestyle and bring things in, and one of the things you've been using is the meditation that you've got around opening up to different income streams, which has helped your energy.
Speaker 1:But the other thing is it's really you are open about your money blocks and you talk about them regular to people and talk about them to me anyway. But you're open about having money blocks but you've still been able to manifest and create a life where your business is growing and yet you've been able to sustain paying your mortgage, traveling, staying in Ibiza for nearly the whole season, take a leave a few weeks here and there, go to Bali for seven weeks and you've managed to do all of this without a full-time job and the money blocks that you you're so dear to hold on to. But you know this is where it's. It's starting to show people that actually you can still have the work to be doing, you can still be clearing the money blocks, but it's not really going to block the opportunities and the money and things coming in. So like, talk more around how you've managed that, because I don't think you've seen how well you've done because the money blocks are still there. But actually look at what you've done, yeah, and they have been.
Speaker 2:Like I do still talk about money like that and I'm getting better, but I think Bali was like huge for me in it's. I thought I was going out there to work on my business, but actually I was going out there to work on my business, but actually I was going out there to work on myself and Kirsten was exactly the same. Like we both like we're like each other's little guides and since being in Bali, like it's just something shifted. I feel like I'm allowing things to flow more and I'm open to other ways of, you know, making money. I have always been, like you know, too focused on one thing, but now I'm actually looking at other things and it's opening up that and I think it's about saying yes to things that terrify me. And when I say yes to things, that's when things start to come in. Like I invested in something the other week to help my business and a result of that was that actually I've had um, tiktoks and reels go viral and that was like the universe saying to me yes, that's where you were. You know, you're on track. I went. I needed some new running trainers because my my knees everything aching. I went and made. You know, I went and bought some trainers that cost me what 70 pounds and then I got home and in that time I've been out, I'd made that money plus on affiliate sales on TikTok. So it was like it's just kind of being open to those as well.
Speaker 2:And the the big thing for me was, interestingly, when I went to Bali Kirsten again, we we had a business event in Tenerife and she's like you've got to go, gemma, and I booked my ticket ages ago because she was. I just I was like, right, okay, I'm doing this because I seen how much she was buzzing from the last one and we went to Tenerife. So we went straight from Bali, we flew into Gatwick, then, um, flew into Heathrow, then we went to Gatwick and flew out to Tenerife the next morning and we had a business event there where it was just full of people that are like-minded, people who are just wanting to try and live a different life, and just the energy was insane. It really, really was. And it was funny enough, somebody found me, my um, a girl in my team whilst I was in Tenerife. Um, and I came home and my energy, I was absolutely buzzing and I was like I felt like I was this different, different person and I feel like I was just allowing it in and then again I've decided actually I've been back like a month and I thought I need another trip I'm gonna go.
Speaker 2:I went to Ibiza, cut a long story short. I went and need another trip. I'm going to go. I went to Ibiza, cut a long story short. I went and did another week in Ibiza and I made my biggest sale whilst I was in Ibiza. Yeah, and I feel like it's because I was so open and I was just doing these things that felt right. I don't, I did. I had no clue why I was going to Ibiza, I just knew I needed to go. It was weird.
Speaker 1:And that's exactly how it does happen for you. I know obviously your overthinking does get in the way, but actually when you just let go and think it's all going to be all right, everything's going to sort itself out, it does really work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that trust and I am terrified of kind of going against, you know, the universe. As I've kept going, I've trusted the universe, I've trusted myself and I I don't want to take, I don't want to go backwards because I don't want to feel uncomfortable. I'm I've.
Speaker 1:It keeps making me feel uncomfortable until I do something about it and I'm like, if I go back into that world where it wasn't serving me, I'll I'll be closing myself off to all these opportunities and I'll just go, I'll just regress and I'll just feel even worse, yeah, and I think that's that's one of those things that just isn't going to be an option now, the way things have grown and you've took these leaps and started to move forward, that actually it's only going to get better from here, like it has only just. It's only got better from when you first took that leap. So it's it's just getting better and better all the time, and sometimes it's not on our timeframe, but time is fluid. So once you get into the flow of it, then time, money, energy all of it works for you absolutely, and I think.
Speaker 2:You know, don't get me wrong, I will have my moments where I'm like oh, I didn't have children, you know, and it I've grieved a part of that because I didn't have what others have, and it's quite sad, but I've got nieces and nephews. I'm not married, I don't. I'm not in a relationship and I've, but actually that there's time for that. I'm't I'm not in a relationship and I've, but actually that the time for that I'm exactly where I'm meant to be and I've kind of come to terms and I'm accepting that and I'm not putting myself under any pressure with a relationship. In fact, at the moment it would be the last thing I really need because I'm looking away and unless they were, you know, following exactly what kind of the way I want to go, then it's not a priority. But it's just funny how, like, I am so much more open to a different way of living which I never ever would have. I don't recognise that in like, I would never have thought of this ever.
Speaker 1:And one thing that you've been massively open with is your journey around being 40 and single and not, you know, having the life that you thought you were going to have, but making the most of it in a way that is actually helping other people. So a lot of your Instagram, tiktok, is about sharing your journey sharing your lows, sharing your highs, but sharing it all. And I think for so many people, life doesn't turn out the way that you expect it to. I mean, you're single, I've been divorced, I don't have children. It's a different scenario for different people, but what you're actually showing people is that you don't have to wait yeah it's not about waiting for things to go the way that you expected.
Speaker 1:It's about making the best of the life path that you've been given yeah, for 39 years of my life I was waiting, probably 38 waiting.
Speaker 2:You know, I was waiting for somebody to say I'll let you go on holiday gem. Waiting for the man to riding on his white horse. You know, knock on my front door.
Speaker 1:All of that waiting for the family, waiting for it all, but that I was blocking it all, yeah, blocking it all, and it's about keep going with, you know, keep going forward and I'm not even sure you were blocking it all, because I think you were meant to be doing what you were doing and helping that community, and that's why you didn't have the journey that you thought you should have, because you were meant to talk about how you didn't have the journey you were meant to have.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I probably ignored certain things and I haven't. There's been times I've not been brave and but you know I should and can't look back now and can only look. Look back to see how far I've come and and yeah, it's just, I'm exactly where I am meant to be. And the amount of women and men who have reached out to me on on both platforms to say how it feels like they are just talking, like I'm just speaking on behalf of them, because it just resonates with them. They feel seen yeah.
Speaker 2:I think that's one of my. I'm a huge advocate for what you see is what you get and I, like you you've known me for a long time now and I just wear my heart on my sleeve and you know there's no filters and I just I'm showing up as myself, just being authentic, and I just think it's in this world now, where it's so there's a lot of filters and you know fake things. It's like so important to be real. Yeah, because I don't want anyone else to feel how I have growing up. When you compare, I call it fake book because you see, everyone shows you the best bits, but behind the scenes you know there's stuff going on that they don't want to talk about.
Speaker 1:And, um, you know, for somebody who did compare their life to everyone else's on there, I don't want other people to grow up and and think that, like you know, there's something wrong with them or because they don't have what others have got, when actually they're only showing you the best bits yeah, and I mean, obviously, my audience is a lot of entrepreneurs and a lot of entrepreneurs put a lot of pressure on themselves to do content in a certain way or to create the content in a professional way, and what I love about what you're doing is you are being real, you're being authentic and it's popping off. So what tips have you got for people who are a bit nervous about social media and how to use it, and how to use it the so-called right way that people think?
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, for starters, it's like I'm on two platforms that are both very different, like what works on one doesn't work on the other. Find Instagram's more polished, and, whereas TikTok you can, you can show up and you can just do a video and put it out there, whereas TikTok you can, you can show up and you can just do a video and put it out there. Um, but I think on both platforms, what is working for me is that authenticity and just being open and honest and not overthinking things, because the ones that actually perform better for me are the ones where I've just been and I've just done them. So take messy action. That was my advice and the algorithm and things and TikTok things are changing now, especially Instagram. It's searchable on Google. Make sure that you are using keywords. That's something that, um, you know, and if you need support with it chat, gpt it's there to you know, use it, but just make sure you change things so it doesn't sound like it doesn't sound like you, um, but it is that.
Speaker 2:Take messy action and for me, those what and I've heard it before and it is so true but those posts that you are nervous or feel, you know, worried about putting out there. They're the ones that you should be putting out there, because that's the ones that are so true to you. And yet I have that fear of being seen and that fear of judgment and this, and I've had that and I still have that every day. But at the same time, like it's making a difference, and by sharing your story and being authentic, people can relate, and that's what people want. They don't want the the the makes you stand out. They don't want the, just the pretty things that look nice all the time, and it depends what you're doing. You know what I mean, but that, that would be my advice.
Speaker 1:Yeah and the other thing as well that I think people overthink or or get stuck on is really not remembering to start from the beginning.
Speaker 1:So we've had this chat just before we come on today, because obviously you're an influencer on tiktok and and on instagram and you're a content creator and you've really started breaching into helping and supporting and thinking about how to coach and mentor people and sometimes you know when people are moving into that arena, they think they need to be this fully fledged. You know guru that has products that do like 12 week masterclasses or whatever, but actually people just need little bits of information that are going to change their life quite rapidly, and it doesn't always have to be a big bang thing. I mean, we got talking before my whole business pages. Everything got started with my gratitude Instagram, so that was one theory that just posted every day and made a change to a lot of people's lives. So, and you're doing the same with what you're doing. So, like, how do you explain how to just break things down for people and like, not over complicate what they're trying to give?
Speaker 2:because you're asking me that question and I could sometimes because I I overthink things and get complicated. It's just what have you got to say. And just start, start from there. Start, you know what is it you're about. I I've written down bubbles and and you know what's my niche, how? And just kind of writing down your story and just literally taking messy action. And everyone has got to start somewhere. Like you know, even the Jay Shetters, your Mel Robbins, have all started somewhere.
Speaker 2:And yeah, I started my page and in no time, like for a long time, it was really slow growth, but just took one reel, one reel to take off and I got thousands of followers, thousands, and I couldn't believe it and yeah, so it's just try not to like break, just like I said, break it down who, who and who is your avatar, who is your ideal person, and just speak to that one person. Yeah, and that's. You know, for me it's. It took me a long time to find my niche, but actually it's exactly me for you know, life hasn't worked out for them how they thought it would.
Speaker 2:You know, maybe burning out in the corporate world, or wanting to just travel, and yeah, and just speak to that one person yeah, and I think that's really key.
Speaker 1:You know, and it's not about this person's, you know, a business owner, blah, blah, blah. You don't need to understand who you inspire or you don't need to get keep who you inspire. It's really about getting out there, trying things, changing as you go, because, for me especially, my niche has changed probably about five times since my business started in 2020. So originally I didn't have a niche and it used to panic me to think about who am I talking to, but actually I was just talking about manifesting to everybody at that point. So I did that and then from that I started to see right, who's interested, who am I actually enjoying interacting with who's? Who am I getting? What am I talking about the most? So I'm always talking about money, so it narrowed things down. So doing that, just getting yourself out there, getting started, helps you actually find these things exactly and knowing that it does change.
Speaker 2:So, 12, 14 months ago, like, my audience was that corporate worker, the burnt out, those people looking to leave, the nine-to-five, and and I still have those. You know, that's still part of it. However, for a long time, I went through like a period of like I don't know, like my page wasn't growing, my content wasn't landing and I was really blocked and I couldn't think of things to put out there. And then, um, it's only been in the last six weeks that I've actually realized I found my niche. I found it because and, and and I'd forgotten, because that person who was 14 months ago is a different person to who I, like I am now. I've evolved.
Speaker 2:I've grown and so likewise so has my content. And being open to change is you've got to just kind of, yeah and it, it's gonna keep growing and changing and and if something doesn't work, change it and actually your niche has found you through your voice, hasn't it?
Speaker 1:like you've just kept talking and talking and being out there, and it's naturally formed into what you're talking about now, which has become your real niche. But that's your niche for now.
Speaker 2:It's not your niche forever yeah, hopefully one day I'll get a boyfriend and uh, I might be 41 and not single anymore.
Speaker 1:It's going to keep evolving, isn't it? Yeah, and that is key. So you said about it take a messy action. I mean, you talked about Mel Robbins as well. Her whole journey started because she'd lost everything and she needed to get out of bed in the morning. So the 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 model was built from that. Because she'd lost everything and she needed to get out of bed in the morning. So the five, four, three, two, one model was built from that. That. She literally that was her starting point to kick her ass out of bed every morning.
Speaker 2:You do not have to over complicate something that's going to help someone everyone has got to start somewhere and I think for me it's not putting yourself under that pressure because I felt it like that fear of that judgment is like who am I to like be able to do this and put myself online and put? It's scary doing that. You know it takes a lot to put yourself out there. To start with, you've done it after it's scary.
Speaker 2:Um, likewise, mel Robbins would have felt exactly the same. But if you listen to those, those like judge that judgment or your own inner judgment, then you're never going to get to where you want to be. Um, so it's about over not to try to shut that out, because actually you are helping so many others and, like the other week I put a post out and I was feeling really rubbish and I didn't want to do it and I was in a and I thought, actually this is the time to put something out. And I was feeling really rubbish and I didn't want to do it and I was in a and I thought, actually this is the time to put something out. And it was really positive and I got loads of traction from it because people could totally relate and, yeah, you know, just show up as yourself and just someone.
Speaker 1:You've got to start somewhere yeah, and I think you know, when we first started I know we had a session together and I read your cards before you decided you were going to Ibiza and those card readings when we look back, you were in that corporate job.
Speaker 1:You weren't happy but you were in it and the cards were coming out with all this stuff about kind of being on a stage and being this business owner, and I was reading them, knowing you, thinking I'm gonna say this, but where the hell is all this coming from? Not really thinking you know, not really seeing this for your, your path at the time, because you never mentioned a business to me or anything like that. So it just comes so out the blue. But that's the thing, you just embraced it and I think even at that reading you, you didn't know what the business was, but it excited you. And then within a few months, you were like Rach, I'm booked, I'm going to Ibiza, and that just catalyst changed everything huge. And I think that's the thing like you have always had this plan for your life, and the universe was like don't be stupid, we've got something else for you.
Speaker 2:Um, but you just embraced it completely, even though it was so out the blue and listen, I'm no, like I'm not where I want to be yet and like I am. I'm back home at the moment. I'm trying to figure it all out, but I've got different ideas in my head that we've spoken about, and I've just like. It doesn't mean I've failed and I've got to stop. Sometimes I have those moments if I failed I'm not, but I'm doing it I am still still. Yeah, I'm still showing up. And you just got to. I don't want to go back to that person who just, yeah, I can't do that, I can't go back no, well, you have, and that's the thing.
Speaker 1:And you are doing it. So it's like, month on month, there's more and more traction, isn't that? And it's what we do? Is we have this idea of we want to be the end and I talk about this all the time but that end, that version that you see, that's successful, that's only the next step in the dance. So you're doing the stuff at the moment to become that person. But as soon as you become that person, your goal will have stretched even further. So I know you're saying you're not where you want to be, but I think we've got to normalize. Everybody's never going to be where you want to be, but I think we've got to normalise. Everybody's never going to be where they want to be, because your dreams are always stretching out again to keep you moving, keep you going forward. So it's not about ever getting to where you want to be, but being happy along the way and knowing that everything's just going to get better and better.
Speaker 2:And that is all I want now is to be happy. And yeah, in the sunshine that would be amazing and it will happen and it's it terrifies me, but that just being happy is so important, because growing up you look at what everyone else has got but actually you've got to you know, it's not about the destination, it's about the journey, isn't it?
Speaker 2:and it's about being happy and content and I, at the moment I am, I'm a lot happier than where I was. Um, still got, I'm still doing the work and I think you continue to do the work, but that happiness is is just so important yeah, and you can't knock it and if you're not happy you've got got to, you know you've got to do something about it.
Speaker 1:God, that takes me back to when I was, seems, ages ago now, but when I was thinking of leaving my husband and Love Island was on, and one of my friends had turned around to me and said you know a quote from Love Island and it was you're happy, but could you be happier? And my answer was yeah, and that was the turning point.
Speaker 2:So anybody listening to this, you need to ask yourself that Are you happy, but could you be happier? Yeah, and nothing changes if nothing changes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly. So anything else, you want to dive into Gem before we finish off, or you want to leave the audience with a message?
Speaker 2:I just think that I just want to say thank you again for having me um manifested being on a podcast, which is unbelievable, um, but I just some words from me is just that, like you know, whatever age you are in your life, you're never too late to start something different or to change direction, um, and back yourself, because you know, I just think it's so important to like, have that self-belief, um, and you know it's not, life isn't easy and these decisions aren't easy, but if you want to get to something, you know sometimes it, sometimes it will be worth it in the end.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that. Thank you so much for joining me and I'll pop all of the links into how to follow Gemma and keep following her story or even work with Gemma or whatever you feel called to, but I'll put everything in and just thank you so much. There was so much wisdom in that Gem that people are just going to get put everything in and just thank you so much. There was so much wisdom in that gem that people are just gonna get a lot out of. Thank you so much. I'll catch everybody next week, but have an amazing week. Bye.
