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This F@#king Country
America's Divided Soul
Greg and Chris dive into the painful reality of America's current political divide, exploring how we've reached a point of division neither has experienced in their lifetime.
They begin by reflecting on their Chicago upbringing, where political identity rarely defined relationships and neighbors of different viewpoints coexisted peacefully. This memory stands in stark contrast to today's America, where political alignment has become a fundamental aspect of personal identity and often a dealbreaker in relationships.
The hosts trace the seeds of our extreme polarization to the Clinton impeachment era, identifying it as perhaps the first modern instance of weaponized partisanship. But nothing compares to the seismic shift brought by Trump's presidency, which they argue not only deepened existing divisions but legitimized cruelty as an acceptable political tactic.
"Trump has given every asshole the comfort to feel that they can let their shit fly openly," they observe, discussing how this normalization of extreme behavior has infected every institution, from law enforcement to media. Particularly disturbing is their examination of police response to protests, with footage of officers using rubber bullets on non-threatening protesters raising questions about accountability and institutional failure.
The conversation reveals a painful truth: many Americans now struggle to imagine reconciliation with those on the opposite side of the political spectrum. Despite wanting to find hope, the hosts conclude without easy answers, offering only a raw, unfiltered assessment of a nation that has lost its moral compass and perhaps its ability to heal.
Join our unflinching exploration of America's divided soul and share your thoughts on whether there's a path forward for our fractured nation.
Hello and welcome to this fucking country. This is Greg With me today. Is Chris, how you doing, chris? I am doing well, thank you. So happy to hear that Today we are going to talk about the division of Americans Just a level I don't believe I've ever encountered in my lifetime. How about you?
Speaker 2:No, this is the worst and I'm trying to think is there a flashpoint that caused all this? Can you think of anything?
Speaker 1:I got a couple ideas yeah, I'm imagining during the Civil War it had to be pretty fucking bad, right. I mean, the country was ripped apart, people were killing each other.
Speaker 2:Yes, but at least they had the excuse of that. Most people had no education. Information was hard to come by because there was no, you know, internet or telephones or things that could spread information, good and bad. We have less excuse for being stupid.
Speaker 1:That's true. There was no access to information back then for a massive amount of the population, as opposed to today where we all have computers in our pockets and we could find pretty much anything we want to learn about, and probably, if you look up enough sources can find the actual truth of the matter. You don't need to just guess.
Speaker 2:Now, that is of course, if you want to know the truth.
Speaker 1:That is true and obviously we have learned that a lot of people they choose to just decide what is their truth and stick with that for basically it sounds like their lifetime. So looking back, I mean, I can only go back to my childhood, and we grew up in Chicago. I would say our neighborhood was middle class to lower middle class. I don't remember brands being an issue ever. I remember basically wearing jeans and t-shirts to school all the time. I don't remember anybody having a lot of money. I don't remember anybody being really strictly Democrat or Republican. I think back in the day I always thought our neighborhood was all Democrats, didn't you just assume that?
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, the South side, you would just kind of think that's a given but, I'm not sure if that's accurate or not it just might be our childhood recollection.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, looking at it now, when I realized who we grew up with and where everybody moved to we had happened is we had the whole white flight thing in our neighborhood. We were in a pocket of racists. That was pretty, pretty impressive. Yet we were not. Our parents were great. They did not raise us that way, but we were surrounded by it. Every day we're hearing you know, oh, you better move, you, you better move. As I became an adult and I realized where all these people moved to, I went oh, oh, oh, oh, my, I was wrong. We were not all democrats. We were not all all liberal leaning people think a vast majority of our neighborhood were racist, fucking twats and probably are very strong trump voting republicans. Now, would you guess that? Or where would you put everyone?
Speaker 2:Well, now, in hindsight, yes, Now just looking back historically and seeing how the Nazis felt comfortable enough to march through a local park multiple times during the course of our, you know, from our teens up through our young adult life, indicates that obviously that area was somewhat welcoming.
Speaker 1:yeah, that kind of a idea ideology obviously we had rose-tinted glasses, I think because of our parents being so, uh, our parents being so non-racist, I think of course we just assumed right everybody else. And again back when you're a child, no one's talking about politics. So who the fuck knew? Now, I personally did not even really pay attention to politics until I'm going to say in my 40s. I think the first time I kind of recognized the, the clash of ideologies in politics was in my 40s when bill clinton was getting persecuted for the whole monica lewinsky blowjob thing and I did not understand why they were coming at him with such anger and hatred. It was like blew my mind because he lied.
Speaker 2:I mean, in theory, that's what they're claiming and at the time, because I'm a little bit older than you, I did say in my own you know thought process that, yes, technically the president shouldn't be lying openly about stuff. Now what he was lying about was stupid and it makes perfect sense why he lied just to try and keep his family life together. But as far as now that just seems quaint.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, idea of it all, yeah I agree, but I don't think they're going after because he lied. I think you and I were disappointed in him for lying. We were like oh and fuck you. But the fact is, is the Republicans the way they were attacking him. To me that was the first sign of what was going on in the Republican Party. That was them being us versus them, kind of a thing Like the kids' gloves are off. That was the first time I noticed that and I didn't know that was happening back then. I was just baffled. I mean, we'd go to Mexico and people would be like what the fuck is going on in your country? Why is this such a big deal? Because presidents are having affairs all over the world and nobody seems to care. And you got all these Christians, christian nationalists, kind of going after this guy and I'm like I don't know. But that was like my eye opening thing. How about you? Well, I think the the big thing was.
Speaker 2:I mean and again, this is just my opinion, but I'm almost of the belief that the reason they went after clinton so hard was he had a one-in-a-lifetime kind of popularity. He was doing very, very well, he made a surplus for our economy and a lot of people really liked him. And I think that's what drew out the republicans, because they were thinking, shit, this guy is going to make us, this is going to be a one-party, uh country soon, because we don't have anyone who can compete with this guy. So we've got to knock him down a peg and we've got to destroy him in any way, in any means possible and it's.
Speaker 1:It's funny too, because since then the hatred toward the clinton family like hillary, the whole thing, man, that is off the fucking charts again just baffles me.
Speaker 2:Just I, I don't get it because if you, if you listen to what the conservatives and the republicans are telling you uh, hillary and bill are responsible for multiple homicides.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you know they don't believe that that's my point. Oh no, I think they do.
Speaker 2:I think they're stupid enough to believe it. Because Fox News told them, so it must be true. Oh, you mean the voters? Yeah, I think the voters believe it.
Speaker 1:But I'm talking about the politicians, I'm talking about the attacks on them. Still, I don't think any of these people in politics are that dumb that they believe this shit. They're selling it like they believe it, but I don't think any of these guys fucking believe that shit. I think they're just pitching it to the masses because they are that fucking dumb well, and I don't.
Speaker 2:I don't think they stand for anything or believe in anything other than wanting to get re-elected. So whatever, if they need to destroy hillary clinton and bill clinton and whoever else, uh, I mean fucking trump is still trying to destroy biden and biden's, you know on his way out the door.
Speaker 1:I mean he's dying and you know he's still threatened by him yeah so I mean they're just trying to destroy any kind of possible competition when when, would you say, you first kind of realized that the parties, our two-party system, as wonderful as that fucking is is insane, and realize how polarized people were becoming?
Speaker 2:That's hard because I don't think there was any kind of defining moment or some kind of epiphany for me. I think it was just something where I started, you know, being more aware of the political landscape and watching words were getting harsher, the attacks were getting more personal, and I think I just went from believing and probably wrongly so that our country was a bunch of people that had differing opinions. Wrongly so, that our country was a bunch of people that had differing opinions. But in the end we are.
Speaker 1:Our common core was that we wanted our country to be the best it could be for everybody, and I found out now that was super, super naive and not even close to being true yeah, I, I agree, I think, um, I think back in the day, whatever the fuck that politicians, while they differed on what they wanted and what they believed, at least they could work together, at least they can get shit done. And I think that goes across down to the people, to the voters. I think it was the same thing. Is that? You know, we all kind of were like this is America. God bless America. Red, white and blue. Sure, I want my guy to win, but that's OK. Well, as long as your guy still keeps things going and whatever. For most of our life, that's what we had.
Speaker 1:All of a sudden, what the fuck happened? I mean, our interests as voters, as citizens, are still the same. We still want to have a job, we still want security, we still want futures for our children. We still want to believe what we want to believe. Go to church whatever church we want to, if we want to marry who we want. I mean again, I think it's been a transitional thing. It's been happening now for a decade or two. It is so divisive right now I don't know what happens from now on I don't think we're gonna ever go back to what we had.
Speaker 2:But I mean, quite honestly, if you really look when george w bush was our president, I kept thinking he's the stupidest fucker I've ever seen in the white house and I didn't like. I didn't agree with anything he did. But things were still relatively civil between the two parties and there was still bipartisan cooperation on certain things. The only thing that's the consistent outlier is when donald trump came on the scene, he, he started dividing everything. Now, maybe that was what everybody wanted on the right well, yeah, that's been going on for years.
Speaker 1:That's what they've been going at.
Speaker 2:He was like their wet dream right, it was never this personal and it was never so. Either listen to what I have to say or fuck you.
Speaker 1:I want you dead, yeah well, when trump was in office the first time, there were still some people. There were still republicans with morals and some balls and spines who were still in office, who were like shutting him down when he wanted to do the crazy shit. They learned from that and, of course, now they got rid of any sane person and now it's just you know, sycophants, just you know, helping him break the law.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, I would say that the last observable sign that there was any kind of possible cooperation between the two parties was toward the end, when biden tried to do that immigration bill, that bipartisan immigration I shouldn't say biden, because it wasn't it was a republican who came up with it.
Speaker 2:Right, but it was bipartisan and biden would have approved it and everything else and trump literally shit on it and made it go away. But that was the last time where republicans Democrats were all on the same. Well, some Republicans and the Democrats were all on the same side and trying to actually get something done. That would have been good for the country and you would think any aware person watching what Trump did to that would tell them all you need to know about Trump.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean Trump. I think has been just, you know, fuck everybody. That's not helping him get rich. With every step of his presidency all the way along boggles my mind how the fuck people don't see that. I don't see how the fuck we come back from this.
Speaker 1:Because the first term of his I was like, okay, fuck anyone who voted for him. And then I'm thinking there's no fucking way this guy could win again. I thought that the first time, but thinking there's no fucking way this guy could win again. I thought that the first time, but I thought there's who the fuck would vote for him after what he did the first term. So the fact that he won again kind of sickened me even more than that first time, which is really hard to say and hard to do To me, like my gut instinct is any new person I meet is the first thing I want to say to them is who'd you vote for? Because if they say Trump, I don't need to have another fucking word with them. Well, you think you're in the same ballpark or you're not as severe.
Speaker 2:I don't think you even have to ask. All you have to do is have a two-minute conversation with somebody and I think you can pretty much get a vibe. Donald Trump has given every asshole the comfort to feel that they can let their shit fly openly. You know, they can say the most vile shit, they can just rip on people and be cruel and everything else, and it's all okay because Donald's okay with it. I think you could have a conversation at a party and somebody could walk up to you and say, oh hi, this is so-and-so and this is my wife and within two minutes just talking to them about anything.
Speaker 2:I think you know. Ask them about the environment, you'll know, right? Um, like our man, look at all those hurricanes that are coming with no warning. See how they respond. You don't have to actually ask them, and then you can sit there and say, oh, you know what, I gotta go play with myself, because that's more, you know, satisfying than talking to more. I'm gonna go slap my dick in a door, yeah generally speaking, I think you're right.
Speaker 1:But there are those people who are just fucking clueless. And then there's the people who don't fucking care. I've got what's the word. I'm acquaintances with people through friends or family or whatever, that I don't talk to because of who they are. But I know if I talk to them I could have a conversation probably for an hour. We could talk about drinking and partying, all sorts of fun shit, and that I would never get an indication that they voted for that. I can't talk to them anymore. I just can't fucking do it. I'm like there's no fucking way. I want nothing to do with you. Either you're so fucking ignorant or you're so fucking lazy, or you're so fucking lazy or you're so fucking stupid or you're so fucking horrible that I'm like why would I want you in my life? Why would I waste any of the breath I've got left on you? And I don't see that ever changing it probably won't I?
Speaker 2:I think we have hit that point of no return, that the one that I still am kind of confused about, only because I have people that I actually care about, who are politically agnostic, to say, to put a way of doing it, even them, I, you know, it used to be okay, I understand, and in in one thought pattern in my head I think well, you see what's happening, how can you still like be agnostic, how can you not take a side just because how bad is? By the other side, I look and I see all the shits that that's happening and I feel so completely helpless. And I I made a comment on social media today about the democrats are do nothing cowards, and somebody challenged me said well, okay, what can they do without having a majority in either house and the supreme court and everything else? And I had no answer for it. I really didn't. So the people who say, well, what, what can I do? I can kind of see their point. What can we do?
Speaker 2:we can keep protesting, but other than me going out and starting to kill people in their homes because they're trumpers, I and I'm not saying I'm doing that- by the way I don't know what the what we can do and, quite honestly, when the elections come, I don't feel any more confident voting for a democrat anyway, because they don't do anything obviously I would feel much more confident voting for a democrat.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I agree that they are useless and probably complicit in all this fucking mess. I want to believe something can change. I want to believe that things will shift Again. I can't see anything coming. I don't see anything happening other than bad shit on the horizon. But let's assume something miraculous happens and somebody does something, and well, we know he's not going to get arrested. He's probably going to finish his term.
Speaker 1:We don't know what damage is going to happen before then well, we can hope for him dying we we do hope that, but but still, let's assume that we do still have elections and they're not challenged and thrown out by the supreme court who's you know, basically sucking his dick too. Assuming best case, best case scenario we have the elections in November, the government and the country has still not flushed completely down the toilet, then chances are good he will have fucked over enough people in this country that he will lose both houses. But so what? He won't have the power he had before, I hope. But the fact of the matter is the damage has been done. I don't know what to do, man. It's like.
Speaker 1:On one level, I'm really impressed with some of my friends and my citizens who are protesting. We talked before about that. There's people getting up, they're doing shit and I'm so impressed with them. So I'm very happy with some of the people in this country. I'm so impressed with them, so I'm very happy with some of the people in this country. And then the other ones, I'm like, oh dude, I can't wait for his shit to fucking hit you. Man, I hope you are the fucking assholes that lose your jobs. I hope you're the ones who lose your 401ks. It's like you voted for this shit. I hope you fucking suffer from it, because this is what you wanted.
Speaker 2:Well, and that's the thing, too is I am officially done with that bullshit saying about how well you voted for this, so you get it. No, no, no, we didn't vote for this. We don't deserve this. But these people this is exactly what they voted for, so fuck them. They can't sit there and say I didn't vote for this, yes, you did. You know what? He's not surprising anybody. He's doing everything. They they published the fucking project 2025 prior to the election and they still voted him well, in theory, voted him in. Now there's a couple things that could happen that what's going on in new york in that one county about?
Speaker 2:doing the recount and they're saying that it regulates if that spreads a little. I don't see it happening, but that's my ultimate dream. But if worse comes to worse and trump dies or we take back the house and senate and then he's just rendered, you know, impotent for his last two and a half year, three years, I'll take that because what I think will happen is if we get anybody of any kind of decent moral and political bent in the White House, it will take away the scumbag's freedom to be a piece of shit openly. And just like when you turn the lights on and the cockroaches all run, I'm hoping they'll all just crawl back under their rocks and stay there. It doesn't mean they're not there. But as long as I don't have to hear them and listen to them, I can live the rest of my days that way and I guess that's the way I'm going to have to, what I'll have to accept that that's the best I'll have.
Speaker 1:I guess that's the best we're going to be able to deal with. But knowing they're there, it's like you always had some idea that there were still a bunch of racists and Out there, but you didn't know how many. That's the scary thing you didn't know how vast the network was.
Speaker 2:It's not the numbers, it's how vile they are.
Speaker 2:Okay, we have a family member that we found out is a big Trumper and they like to post stuff on social media bragging about the cruelty, and that's what surprises me. I've had friends that were racist. It was hard, but we just agreed to not talk about that kind of thing and I didn't bring my black friends around when they were around, and he just never said his shit in front of me. But this is different. This is cruelty just for the sake of being cruel. And have you heard that video of that little baby crying? That little child crying? Of course, and it's like I don't know how anyone, any decent human being, can listen to that and still say anything in support of Trump.
Speaker 1:So, if you can, that tells me that you're way beyond racist, you're way beyond stupid, you are pure evil and cruel, and that's a whole different kind of thing yeah, that's, that's a level of, and again, it's just, it's enforcing my, my, my point is that I there's just just no turning back, and the side effect of this, too, is knowing all these people are like this way. I, I keep thinking about the police again. I've never had the best attitude toward the police ever, but now it's so much worse, it's like, because I mean, before it was, you see the occasional person, you see the george floyd thing. You know, you go. Okay, there's always, there's always going to be racist pieces of shit out there, right, but I thought it was fewer and far between. And now I'm watching these fucking la cops fucking shoot people in the fucking face. I'm watching, uh, these assholes to be, fair.
Speaker 1:They were white people that they shot in the face and in the leg. Yes, they were. But I'm watching them arrest senators. I'm watching them do the bidding do the unlawful fucking bidding of these corrupt motherfuckers and it's like okay, you obviously don't give a shit about your oath, you obviously will do whatever the fuck they tell you. I honestly don't know how you go back from that. I mean, I always kind of question the police, but I would kind of approach carefully and if they seem like they are cool I'm like great. I honestly am now very afraid. I want nothing to do with, I do not want to deal with police officers at all anymore, if I can help it. I got my CCL because I had no faith in them doing what they're supposed to do. I am now actually terrified of the police. That's what they're going for. Great fucking job, you fucking Nazis. I apologize to the good cops out there. I know there's a percentage of great fucking cops and I am so sorry that you are surrounded by a bunch of pieces of shit. I mean.
Speaker 2:I don't disagree with how you feel about the ones we see doing what they're doing, but that is such a small number.
Speaker 1:I just looked it up.
Speaker 2:There are over 1.28 million police officers in this country. Give me an estimate, a big estimate over. Guess how many cops do you think we've seen doing bad shit since this all started?
Speaker 1:Well, if I had to go proportionally, like if I'm watching a video and let's say there's like five cops right with guns trying to keep people back and one of them shooting, those are bad odds. Now, if you want to sit there and say how many cops overall and how many do I think are going to be good or like disgusting, like do that type of shit, that number is probably going to be very small. But so far, I mean, look at the videos you're watching. You you see these ice assholes abducting children.
Speaker 2:You're not police. They are no, no, I understand that.
Speaker 1:But the police are there to I think they said what they're there to fucking protect the citizens or maintain security. For, yeah, fuck, they are right. You watch people trying to rip this mother or this child out of these ice assholes' arms, and the cops they're not just fucking holding people, they are fucking shoving these people into trees. I mean, dude, I don't know. I don't want to come across and be like anti-cop because, again, I'm sure it's a shit-fucking-hard job and the public sentiment toward them is unjust and fucked up, but the fact is, you watch this type of shit and that's the problem Everything Trump touches turns to shit. So, unfortunately, the police have to back these assholes up, but there's more and more footage of them fucking throwing people down, arresting people who should not be arrested. I don't know it's just bad.
Speaker 2:Here I'll be the devil's advocate and I'm not saying I disagree with you in theory. Imagine you're a police officer and you've been doing it for 25 years, getting ready to retire in five years, you got a nice pension lined up and everything else. Police officer and you've been doing it for 25 years, getting ready to retire in five years, you got a nice pension lined up and everything else and you get ordered to go and be perimeter security uh, while ice does their operations. What your opinion on it doesn't mean shit. You, you're you're told to do this and your options are to not do it, disoobey a direct order and be fired and lose your pension. Or even if you have a great argument and you know that, you can bring a lawsuit and you'll probably win seven, ten years down the line. Until then, your family has no income, your pension is at risk and everything else. So the problem with this is these guys and women don't have a lot of choices on what they do.
Speaker 2:Now the throwing stuff, throwing people down on the ground here's the problem. You saw the thing with the senator today. They ordered them to remove him from the thing. His standing as a senator doesn't really matter. The fact is is somebody was having an event I don't know if it was a public event or if it was a private but they told him to leave. He resisted, they, they, they were over the top on my, in my opinion.
Speaker 2:But the thing is is it's you? What do you do if they're telling you I want him removed and he's resisting you? You you're in a between a rock and a hard place. I'm not justifying what they're doing, but here's my question when I was a police officer, if I did something wrong, or even if what I did was perceived to be wrong, somebody could go to my police department and file a complaint. They would investigate it and if it was found to be that I had violated the rules or the policies of our department, I could face discipline leading up all the way to termination and even criminal charges. Why is that not open to us? Federal officers don't have any free reign to do whatever the fuck they want. So my question is where do we go in the government to file official complaints? Because you know what they.
Speaker 2:They're identifying these cops now, and especially when it's the cops doing it, because they are still wearing their name plates and their patches and you know who they work for, yeah, so why aren't people filing complaints against these people? Yes, will it? Will anything happen? Well, under this administration probably not, but they still should do it. So we have a paper trail to show that, when things balance out, these fuckers all have to not only lose their jobs, but lose their pensions and go to jail, and that's not an option, and at least that's not the option I feel we have presented to us. And why aren't the democrats and intelligent people or decent people who are law scholars or something, why aren't they telling us how to combat this?
Speaker 1:Good point To your point. I think with the senator. I don't think those are actually police officers. I think that was either FBI or the goons that were working specifically for.
Speaker 2:It wasn't FBI because I tried to blow up the pictures. I've seen a lot of FBI badges in my day.
Speaker 1:Those weren't FBI badges Well one guy in the hallway who was putting them in cuffs had an FBI vest on, and on the back it said FBI.
Speaker 2:It did I'm pretty sure, because I saw something where it said police and then it had some word, like a small three-letter word over it, but I've worked with the. Fbi a lot of times and they don't have FBI police, because that's not the same thing.
Speaker 1:Well, again, I mean, the fact is they've got their own little Nazi squads doing whatever the fuck they want. Most of the shit I've seen has not been police officers. Before the fucking police were shooting those people in LA, I would not have really said too much about the actual police.
Speaker 2:I know they're in a bad fucking situation and, I think, a lot of excuse for what happened in LA them shooting those rubber bullets at people that were a hundred yards away.
Speaker 1:I do believe that somebody is pressing charges against those people, those cops, and I hope so, because I public. We need public record of this type of shit, and who those fucking assholes?
Speaker 2:are, and it won't be hard to find out who they are. Or how about that poor girl who was just trying to walk to her house, my god, yeah, point blank range.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she was not a threat in any way. And that's the thing is. Police have a use of force continuum that we have to follow that you only can use the necessary force to an effect an arrest and you can only use lethal force when it's to save a life or if somebody is is presenting lethal force. And none of this is the case, and I don't understand. Cops are generally very hesitant to police each other. That whole thin blue line is a bunch of bullshit, but the fact is is it does take nerve to sit there and stop a fellow officer from doing something like roughing somebody up, but it has to be done because now you know what's going on, you see what's happening. You have to be going into work every day going OK, this is what my line is and I'm not going to allow it to cross. And no one's doing that. They're just kind of just like jellyfish floating in the ocean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know if anything's happening. You know, obviously we don't know, like the group of cops that were lined up with those guns and the one guy who shot, we don't know, maybe those guys are fucking ripping that guy a new asshole. I don't know if anything's happening at all.
Speaker 2:Then they should come out and say that we're doing an investigation, they've been removed, they're on suspension. That's all they'd have to do, you know, because then we would have a belief that the things are being done properly.
Speaker 1:But I think you and I agree that police spokespeople are probably the worst fucking spokespeople on the fucking planet.
Speaker 2:Especially Chicago. Yeah, just horse shit Okay.
Speaker 1:The point is. This, though, is like you see, you can see 20 fucking cops right, and you see one fucking cop take a shot at some poor girl five feet away. You're not thinking, oh, it's only one out of 20. You're thinking what a fucking nazi cunt I mean. And that's it, and that's your, that's what your takeaway is from those fucking cops, so that one jag off, that's it but we're too smart to just do that, to, to just look and see.
Speaker 2:Oh look, there's a hundred cops lined up. One guy who's got obviously a micro phallus is doing shit. That's outside the norm. And what we owe that girl that got shot like that. What we owe her is to go over and try and find out what that motherfucker's name is, get pictures and follow up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay that one time out of 100 guys, and then the other time the one guy out of 100. And then the other time one guy and then the other time. Right See, the problem is it's a fucking pattern. Now how many people have been shot with rubber bullets so far that were not a threat to the police? Three or four, five.
Speaker 2:Anybody been shot that actually deserved it Right, so the problem.
Speaker 1:There could have been 10 million fucking cops out there, but the fact that we just watched in the last week six fucking people get shot with rubber bullets I'm like holy shit, that is just a bad look.
Speaker 2:And again, how the fuck do you come back from this? I want to know. I want to go ask one of those police chiefs, like the la uh chief or something, and say okay, I watched you on an interview. You said that 99 of the people are being peaceful and everything else. So if that's the case, sir and this is where the media fails I would say sir, you said that 99% of the people are being peaceful, what are you doing about the police officers that are brutalizing people that have done nothing wrong? What are you doing about it? We want to know and get an answer, because we need to hold their feet to the fire. We can't just sit there and go. Well, these guys are assholes and we got to make sure we call them on it and never lose sight of those things, I agree, but there's no accountability anymore.
Speaker 2:Not so far no.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's Trump's whole thing. There's no accountability. It's like, do whatever the fuck you want. I don't think. I mean I'm old enough now. I don't think there's chance I'll live long enough to ever fucking change my mind at this point about my fellow citizens, the ones who have voted republican, and I even have problems. I mean the politicians who are silent scum. I mean just every one of them. Who's enabled this? Who's let this happen? I mean, how the fuck do you sleep? What do your children think of you? It's disgusting.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, there's no way to justify it, there's no rationale for it. Their big thing was having Cory Booker talk for 25 hours without a bathroom break. Talk is cheap. Instead of talking to your fellows Congress people who have heard it all before, why don't you go talk to the police chief in LA and ask what they're doing about this abuse of power by the police? Why don't we do that? Why don't we look about starting resolutions in Congress condemning this kind of act? Why don't we do all those things? So at least you're going on an official record as having done something. So in the history books, if they're allowed to be written accurately in the future, they say what did you do? What did you do to stop this Holocaust? And well, I talked for 25 hours. That's not enough, sir. You need to do more.
Speaker 1:We are in such a bad spot as a country, as a people, I don't have any hope for this. We'll see what happens. I mean our media, I don't even know. I want to say they're useless. I think they're actually complicit. Also, I think it's another case of people I got a good living here. I gonna tell. I'm gonna just say what fucking people tell me to say. I don't care about the truth.
Speaker 2:It's just every aspect of humanity is being tested and so many of them are failing so many fired that one reporter for posting something on his own social media, just saying something that was actually true about Stephen Miller.
Speaker 1:Well, that's because that she wants to sell, because she wants to wants to sell the company and she needs the approval. And Trump will not let them get the approval for the sale unless they kiss his ass.
Speaker 2:And again. So they'll do it because that's more important than doing the right thing. Transactional ethics is thing of the day in the United States.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it probably has been for a long time, and I think this level of disgust for my fellow citizens it was probably not this high, but it probably should have been. I just didn't know that this is what people really felt and this is how disgusting people could be and this is how low of a moral character that half of this country actually is capable of being.
Speaker 2:But I know now I got a real quick scenario. I want you to tell me what you would do. Let's say, you come across somebody that you know that tells you, yeah, they voted for Trump and they regret it. They have such deep sorrow and regret for having done this. What's your response? Are you going to sit there and accept that and say I apologize to the depths of my soul. I don't know what I was thinking, I was in a bad place and I just you know whatever bullshit excuse they want to make, but they're sitting there saying, hat in hand, mea culpa. What are you going to do? I mean, because I know what I'm doing I'm going to give them the big old middle finger and say too late too late.
Speaker 1:First off, I think it's funny that you would even think somebody would actually do that, because I don't think that's ever going to happen. My experience has been people are just doubling down, even if deep inside they're like, oh shit, I didn't really want this bad. I think they're just doubling down. I don't think there's going to be a person on this fucking planet unless, of course, something really bad happens to them and they're like, oh shit, I did not expect this. Then they're going to go oh, I am so sorry, but someone to just see what's happening to other people and then go oh, that's not what I wanted, I'm so sorry, I don't think that's ever going to happen.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying in this current environment, I'm saying, let's say, the tide turns and all of a sudden, uh, trump dies, uh and jd vance gets caught fucking a couch, whatever, and the dems take control of both. Clarence, thomas and alito go to prison and let's say all the wonderful things you are fantasizing.
Speaker 2:You know our wet dreams are, you know, are made of, but let's say, all that happens. So now the tide has turned and they, now they realize, oh, now, because I want to live in polite society. That's a way where I could see them doing it just to save face yeah, yeah, fuck them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree. Yeah, fuck them. Yeah, fuck everyone looks like him and fuck everyone's related to this fucking country exactly all right. Well, that's enough ranting on this one. I believe I was hoping at the beginning of this somehow you or I would say something that would kind of make me have a glimmer of hope. But I've got none.
Speaker 2:Trump eats a lot of Big Macs. He could still die. Yeah, yeah he's fuck.
Speaker 1:You know what the good die young and the evil last forever. Man, he's not going to die anytime soon.