This F@#king Country

Media Lies, Power, And Consequences

greg Season 1 Episode 12

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What happens when lies get a louder microphone than facts? We take you inside the mechanics of how false narratives spread, why the follow-up questions never seem to land, and how spectacle crowds out verification. From choreographed optics around a supposed “assassination attempt” to court cases that unravel public claims without real accountability, we track the playbook step by step and ask a harder question: if institutions won’t do the work, what can citizens actually do that moves the needle?

We get practical about leverage. Instead of vague calls for a general strike, we lay out a focused, local-first economic strategy that ordinary listeners can sustain: buy from independent shops and restaurants, starve the corporate pipelines that bankroll disinformation, and coordinate time-bound boycotts that are large enough to be felt in boardrooms. We pair that with a cultural counteroffensive—shareable explainers, receipts, timelines, and smart satire—to raise the social cost of lying and keep contradictions in plain view. When millions adopt small, synchronized habits, supply chains shift and narratives lose oxygen.

Protection matters too. We talk through concrete mutual aid that lowers risk for vulnerable neighbors: grocery runs, rides that avoid targeted checkpoints, and multilingual know-your-rights education. No heroics, no recklessness—just steady, lawful actions that make predatory tactics harder and communities stronger. The theme tying it all together is persistence: truth needs infrastructure, and the most reliable parts are the ones we build together—our wallets, our networks, and our attention.

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SPEAKER_01:

Welcome to this fucking country. I'm your host, Greg. With me today is Chris. Chris, how are you doing today? I am doing very well, thank you. Fan fuck fantastic. It's been a while since we've talked, so uh it's good to have you back. We were we were discussing earlier what we wanted to talk about because you know there's a shit show every fucking second. Uh, and I think we narrowed it down. I I think we're gonna discuss this administration and their addiction to lying and just making shit up. They seem to have a fucking corner on the market when it comes to this type of shit.

SPEAKER_02:

I think Mike Johnson's really, really trying to be the top liar in chief because every time he opens his mouth, I'm sitting there listening to it while my wife's watching, you know, MSNBC, and I'm like, oh, that's not even fucking true. And it's like, it doesn't have to be true. No, there people believe it, and we just scoff.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah, and the they very rarely, very rarely will call him on it. And if they do, it's you know, they'll say something and then he'll make up another lie, and then they're like, okay.

SPEAKER_02:

Right. Well, the media gets distracted. You know, they're the squirrel. Yeah you know, they they're they're looking at one thing and they can't. And I understand there's a certain fatigue in all this. Uh every day it's sort of like, how do we keep track? How many days has it been since a Republican was arrested for some kind of trime against children? It's gotta be months now. Every day.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah, it does seem like it. It does seem like it's happening constantly. Yeah, it's it's really fucking terrifying. No, you know what? I don't give the media a pass on any fucking level on any fucking day. Because you know what? There's a lot of shit I want to ask them, and I want to ask Democrats alike just about the whole way this whole thing happened and how we got here. But even the simplest thing, like if somebody's lying to your face and it's obviously a lie, and you just sit there go, okay, that's your fucking job. I mean, if you're just an idiot off the street, you don't know any better, fine, but that's your fucking job. Do your fucking job or put some other asshole in there who will.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, I don't think they're very good at it anyway, because if you watch like anybody, CNN, MSNBC, one of the major networks, whatever, when they're interviewing somebody like Trump or Johnson or something, they look they clearly have a list of questions in front of them. They're not even listening to the answer they're being given. They're just getting ready to go to the next question. So something that they could really expound on and catch them in something they aren't doing. They're the questions that they could ask them to kind of pin them into a corner, they're not asking. And then that leads to the question why aren't they asking those questions? Why aren't they pushing it? And it's because I think they're bought and sold.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I I think it's because their bosses are all conservative uh Republican people who are telling them. Well, have you seen the clips that people put together where they sit there and say this is their talking points, and then they'll do one one uh team from a station saying something, and then boo-boo, boo, boo, boo, and that's all the people.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, John Oliver started that and it's brilliant.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, so it's like, yeah, so obviously they have their talking points, and you know, they really are not the news anymore. It's just, you know, bullshit.

SPEAKER_02:

Wouldn't it be nice though to see just one or two people, some well-connected people, stand up and just say, Well, I'm gonna ask the hard question, I'm gonna do the hard stuff in until they fire me.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, but they probably won't have a job though. You know, I say until they fire me. Yeah, even if they got somebody like Rowan Farrow, who who is a great journalist, I think uh he used to work for Vanity Fear. I don't know if he still does, but somebody like him to just hold somebody's feet to the fire, but again, I don't think they would. I think they would just walk away or they say some stupid response and you know, whatever. So I can't watch the regular media, and I really wish everyone in this fucking country would stop watching that shit because it's it's not your friend.

SPEAKER_02:

That's one of the things when they're talking about boycotting things, boycott the major media.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I mean yeah, because it's just it's just it's just bullshit. So speaking of the bullshit, there's so many things we could go into. So like my favorite one about them lying and bullshit is the fake Trump assassination.

SPEAKER_02:

Now you and I wait, there's technically one and and then two halves. Right, wow because the guy that was in the bushes that a Secret Service agent saw a barrel sticking out from a hundred and some yards away. Because you know, barrels are really big. Sure. Yeah, yeah. Oh, and not only that, but it's Secret Service. They couldn't find their ass with uh you know both hands and a flashlight. And then the one now, I don't know if you heard about it, the tree stand that was facing where Air Force One lands when he goes to golf at Mar-a-Lago, and apparently it's in the lines, line of sight of when he gets off the you know, Air Force One. Yeah. So somebody just went in and built a stand there, and again, it's kind of easy to see. So, and again, they just do this shit.

SPEAKER_01:

Right. And and and you gotta wonder who the fuck is believing this at this point. Now, is it all Trump supporters? Is it all Republicans? Because I don't think any, well, I don't know. Do you think Democrats believe any of that dumb shit?

SPEAKER_02:

Believe it? No. Are they participating in some of it? Because they're sure not challenging any of it, and that makes you question why. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, and don't forget, we gotta include the Charlie Kirk. Well, Charlie Kirk's a whole separate thing.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, so but his shot, that's that's my favorite because Kirk, I think, will in time become just as obvious, but right now the Trump one is so obvious on so many levels. I mean, any of us who are not Trump fans who watch that footage went, that's fake, right? Immediately. You went, no, no fucking way. I mean, and the thing that gave it away to me first was when he started, you know, popping his head up and raising his fist. Not only did I think that that was a bullshit move, but I thought he is a coward. That that's the thing first and foremost is that guy is the biggest fucking pussy on this planet. There's no fucking way. If someone really took a shot at him and actually clipped his ear, that that fucker would be anything but pressing onto the ground crying for his mommy.

SPEAKER_02:

I agree. I he he's a he's a giant pussy. And Secret Service, even when they're relatively incompetent or competent, the thing is they would never let him do that. I my favorite thing was the one Secret Service agent with a half smile on his face who's waving his hand like it's gonna protect Trump while he's got his head up. It's like, yeah, okay, that hand's not gonna even act like it's there if you're actually shooting at him.

SPEAKER_01:

It was it was wonderful theatrics, the flag being lowered, the put the uh photographers being pulled around to the front. Then again, the the thing I think that's the most uh insulting to anyone with intelligence, no investigation. Nothing. You we we haven't heard anything about any of it since. I don't think there's anything even going on, right? I think they must have just ignored the whole thing now, right?

SPEAKER_02:

Is anyone stopping the media from going over to that kid, the alleged shooter, going over to his parents and asking them some questions?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, how much money did you get?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, how much did you get to why you know sacrifice your son?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

You know, well, if people could send their little kids over to Neverland Ranch and then get a settlement from Mikey, then I'm I'm sure they're willing to let you know their weird son that's you know an incel anyway, die at the hands of for seven figures.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. There's so many people I think who've drank the Kool-Aid who are like, oh, I'm you know, whatever Trump wants kind of thing. So I'm sure there's a certain amount who think that's the that's the patriotic thing to do. To me, that's like the biggest lie that people have just dropped. I mean, no scar on his ear. I mean, every fucking aspect, every fucking aspect of that is so fucking fake. We just let it go. Has has his base, you think, have they have they moved on? Like the people who are wearing the bandages on their ears, do you think do you think any doubt has crept into their mind, or do you think they're just as fucking dumb as they were then?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, I I think there's a lot of people who probably think, yeah, there's something fishy about that, but it's Donald, so in Don we trust, you know? Where are all the you know, investigative journalists, the independent ones, and why aren't they going like here? John Oliver, why don't you go and do an entire episode on this assassination attempt and go and talk to every hospital that's in that by Erie, Pennsylvania or Butler or wherever it was at? Talk to every hospital. Did he ever come here after the shooting? No, okay, because we know what time he was whisk out of there. So where was he treated? Yeah, who treated him? Yeah, did anyone, any nurses, uh you know, if they find where it was, talk to everybody there. Did you treat him? Did you see him? Did you ever enter the hospital? Well, you're not going to get treated because you know he was never injured, so they couldn't have. But by proving all that, it makes it just harder for them to perpetuate the lie.

SPEAKER_01:

But that's the beautiful thing about them is that they just kind of move on, and then there's a different fucking thing the next day, you know, and you're right, there's no journalism, there's nobody pursuing this for God only knows what reason. So so that's gone, right? That that's something that they're making shit up, and like you said, Charlie Kirk, God knows that's wrong on every fucking on the face of that is just wrong in so many ways, too. I mean, his wife, the shooting, the magic, yeah, the magic bullet that did not go through his bone. It's like, oh my fucking god.

SPEAKER_02:

And have you seen any of the tests that independent people do where they'll just take a 30-odd six, they'll go the right distance, and they'll put up like a giant pork neck or something like that. Yeah. And it's just well, I've seen 30 odd six and what it'll do, even a 2-2-3, which is allegedly what hit Trump's ear. None of this is even ballistically even close. And they don't care because they know that everyone's gonna believe it that wants to believe it, and the ones who don't, they don't care.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, everything about that breaking down the crime scene, there's no evidence. The that one clip of that kid who was uh red hat uh afterward, he was with his group of friends, and they were talking about they just saw and whatever happened, and all of a sudden his friend jumps in and stops him from talking. Every fucking thing that's attached to them now is just so many fucking lies. And now we've got multiple examples of ice fucking lying through their teeth. The most obvious one is that woman who was shot recently, and they said, Oh, they she rammed their car and she had pulled brandished an automatic weapon, and we find out in court none of that fucking happened. In fact, they cut her off, tell her go ahead, do something. Do something, bitch. Yeah. It's like, oh my god. And and there's multiple fucking examples of this. They just lie through their fucking teeth.

SPEAKER_02:

But my question is, is if it if this was uncovered in court, what were the consequences for them lying?

SPEAKER_01:

There there are no consequences, they just the jury immediately they're found innocent and the case is dropped.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, but that's but that's nobody perceived how it works. The the court system, if I was testifying in a trial where I shot somebody and it came out that everything I my account of the entire incident was bullshit. Yeah. And the yes, the charges would be dropped, and then the judge would be going, uh, come over here. I want to talk to you for a little bit, just so you know there will be charges coming down the line for you.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, that might be. They might be doing that when you have the Supreme Court, when you have these traitorous fucking criminal cunts on your side and in your pocket for God only knows what reason, but once you have them, I don't know if there's a point because all they do, all this administration does is they just keep bumping it up, bumping it up. They just you know, and then they're gonna be able to do it.

SPEAKER_02:

Until they get the court that they want, or until Eileen Cannon hears one of their cases.

SPEAKER_01:

Right. So so that's what they're gonna do, I would imagine. Um, but again, it's just constant fucking lies. And I'm I'm wondering who fucking believes this. All I could think is I know there's a huge, huge portion of this country uh that listen to mainstream uh media. And if you listen to the mainstream media, they're not reporting this like, oh my god, this is very questionable. They're just saying, oh, well, this is what they said, and this is what they said, and they're not drawing any conclusions, they're not like letting people know that, oh, well, this has all been disproved in court. It's fucking infuriating because all these fucking people with their heads up their asses can keep their heads up their asses, you know.

SPEAKER_02:

What's that quote about your job as a journalist? If if person A says it's raining out, and person B says it's not raining out, your job isn't to tell you, tell everybody what they both said, it's to go out fucking side and find out if it's actually raining out. Yeah, but they don't do that anymore. And I understand all the mainstream media is bought and paid for, but all all the other ones, even yo, Jon Stewart, John Oliver, uh Steve Colbert, I all those guys, I love them. But they could literally have a show every day on any of this, and they could take a deep dive on just one of these subject matters and at least get the ball rolling. But no one wants to do anything, so it leaves the public eye, and then we get distracted by something shiny and criminal the next day.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, on their behalf, I will say those are all comic shows. They are not journalism shows. Now, granted, Oliver does do some deep dives, but that's all he does.

SPEAKER_02:

It's not yeah, but it's tonight we're gonna talk about anything.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, but it's also comedy. He's he's always tying the comics. I don't know. I don't man, I think what if you go down that rabbit hole, that's like investigative journalism. That's gonna be a hard one to kind of to put like a funny spin on. Yeah, yeah. So I and again, I don't think that's their job personally. I would love to see it, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02:

But if no one else is doing it, don't we need somebody to step up?

SPEAKER_01:

We need somebody to step up. I just don't know if it's them. I'm again, like I said, Rowan Farrow would be fucking great, or any other journalist.

SPEAKER_02:

Have uh Charles uh Carl Bernstein, you know, have him do it, or Ken Burns.

SPEAKER_01:

Again, Ken Burns documentarian, you know, and and he doesn't seem like he's got the disposition to kind of do that. He seems like such a fucking crunchy kind of a mellow, kind of a peaceful loving guy. You have to have a certain kind of a grit, uh, you know, a fucking like a dog with a Stone.

SPEAKER_02:

But then they'll automatically write it off as it's just a conspiracy theory.

SPEAKER_01:

And Stone's a Republican anyway, so he's he's kind of a nut job. I've heard some interviews with him, and he seems not all stable.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, then he's a perfect Republican, typical.

SPEAKER_01:

So I I don't anticipate this changing because there's no need for them to change. I just wonder how many people continue to just swallow this shit and not question it.

SPEAKER_02:

You know, Republicans are known for their swallowing you know skills. Yes, they are. Look at Levitt. I mean, Caroline Levitt. Oh my god, how much jizz has that bitch swallowed and taken in the pooper to get to her job? And she's so good at lying.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, they all are though. Everyone, I mean, I that was what they fixed with this administration is they got rid of anybody who's got any kind of a soul, anyone who's got any kind of a moral compass, and anyone who's not willing to just lie through their fucking teeth every second of every day.

SPEAKER_02:

But her the hubris, though, with with their lies, yeah, they say it and then they act offended when somebody questions them on it. Did you see Trump questioning that attorney to uh the reporter today? She asked about something with Israel. Why don't you just oh no, it was Ukraine. She asked, Well, why don't you just give Ukraine the weapons they need to win the war instead of just trying to keep their country, you know, at like uh even keel? And he goes, Well, you don't obviously know what you're talking about. She goes, Well, I I I kind of do. And he goes, Okay, moving on, and he just completely ignored her. But at least she tried a little, but but none of the rest of the media ever wants to stand up for each other and say, you know what? If you're gonna fucking lie to us, we're not gonna come to these anymore.

SPEAKER_01:

And all your press conferences. But that's a problem too, though, because like like that girl who asked that, probably you won't see again there. I'm you know, I mean, it's like they're anywhere. She's gonna fall out of windows. Well, they got you know, all the people now aren't at the Pentagon anymore. God only knows what the fuck they're doing there because now there's no media in there. So this is to me, this is their wet dream. They don't want anybody asking them hard questions. They can just do everything they want to do.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, so what but what's the what's the solution? There's gotta be something because the same way our generals and admirals shouldn't be quitting because they can't obey his orders. What they should do is stay in position and tell their guys under him, you're not going to do that.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I agree. I agree. And I there's so many things that I don't understand about how this shit keeps going on. I don't know why our state police uh at the Broadview facility are fucking looking like Nazi cunts and rounding people up and harassing people. I don't get that. I mean, we got Pritzker, we got you know saying this shit's bullshit. Why the fuck is our state police doing this shit? Who the fuck is in charge of them and why are they still the fucking charge? I don't again, I don't get this shit. Like Trump is getting rid of fucking people left and right who don't kiss his fucking nutsack. Why the fuck do we have people jumping on the Nazi train still in power in in a blue fucking state? I'm sure the reason there's a reason. I just don't know what the fuck it is. But it does seem like they're doing whatever the fuck they want at every turn, and everyone else is going along with it.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, that's because unfortunately, the left tries to stay within the law, and at this point, you you're not gonna win this fight. If if if one guy's street fighting and you're sitting there trying boxing, you're gonna get your ass kicked. So they need to start doing the dirty two.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. And you know, at this point, I don't even know if they released the Epstein files and they found out that Trump not only was in the files, not only molested and trafficked girls, but was an integral part of the entire operation. Like if he was I would not doubt that he was Epstein's partner in this whole thing. But I don't think anyone who still supports him would give a shit. You could prove that Trump is definitely one of the uh worst pedophiles on the planet, and I think they would still follow him. Do you think that would change anyone's mind?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh no. I mean, when you have women saying Trump could rape my daughter and I I would still vote for him, what that tells you exactly what we're looking at. And all the people that you see on social media who who literally say that no matter what the the uh No Kings march, even the main meet mainstream media covered that, and they showed all the video, and I see stuff on social media where people are saying, Oh, those are old videos. One of them was the inauguration for Trump, and one was uh you know a concert, and they're they're gonna just believe whatever they say that they were all paid actors. Yeah, I don't know. You and I were there. Did you get your check for 200 bucks yet?

SPEAKER_01:

Not yet. I'm waiting at the time. That's right. God damn it, where's my check? So here's something that pops in my head once in a while. Like two of my heroes right now are Republicans, like Tim Miller and Steve Schmidt are Republicans. They were used to be in politics. Out of all the fucking people out there doing shit right now, these are two of my favorites that I listen to who who seem to have a soul, seem to be angry in the right amount of way, and seem to be pissed about the right fucking thing, right? Now, I'm fucking shocked and disappointed that out of all the fucking people, my like two of my favorites are fucking Republicans. Because what the fuck does that say about the party that you know I used to belong to? But I'm just wondering, I know there are a lot of Republicans out there who are old school conservative kind of Republicans who probably fucking hate Trump at this point. I'm assuming that if 70 some million people voted for him, right? Let's assume even being polite, half of those were his crazy fucking fans. Maggots. Yeah. Let's assume half were maggots, let's assume half were just people who were like, I don't want to vote democratic, or I believe Trump's gonna bring prices down. Right? Okay, so at this point, he had to have lost half of them, right? So and his polling is horrible, everything's horrible, shit with immigration, nobody likes and I mean, obviously, they're going so far out of their way, they're they're they bought dominion voting, so they're doing everything they can to make sure we don't have an election because I they know they're gonna fucking lose if we have a real election at sphere. They know this. We might not have that fucking election. No, I don't think we will.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, I I don't even believe, and again, I know this is another conspiracy, but the the last election I don't believe was legitimate either.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, there's numbers coming out, and I've seen some of them.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, did you see I forget who was one? They had a analyst, a numbers analyst who has done these um reviews of elections in other countries, and they can find like anomalies and things like that. And they're saying that there is literally no chance that the voting totals that were in the seven swing states were legitimate. If that's the case, uh but there's not no one's listening to them, and no one's gonna bring it to the next level, even though that one was it in New York, some Amherst or somewhere, they're doing a hand recount. Right. Even when they're be being presented with something, they're not doing anything about it. They don't need to an election if they could just steal it. And when what no one thought it was a bad idea that Trump's right-hand man at the time, Elon Musk, was the guy's company that was in charge of you know tabulating the votes.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And now with them owning Dominion, they don't think that there's some kind of a, I don't know, conflict of interest or a shady something going on there.

SPEAKER_01:

This uh White House demolition for his ballroom,$280 million, right? Giving$40 billion to Argentina, all these things that they're doing, all this money, what the uh Christy Gnome Ice Barbie,$172 million for a new jet. How does anybody on that side of the aisle see these numbers and think, oh wait, you can't afford to give uh money for Snap. You can't afford to keep USAID going on. You anything that's got to do with helping people, they're like, nah, fuck that. But anything else to do with grift or just making somebody's some somebody who's rich even richer, they seem to be just fine.

SPEAKER_02:

Are you talking politicians or voters when on the other side of the road?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, I'm I'm I'm trying to figure out voters. Like how do they not see these numbers and think this is fucked up?

SPEAKER_02:

Because they want to be the on the side that wins, they want to be the side that owns the libs. I mean, you can tell by the comments, hey, you you see on Facebook we we have people, family members, people I played hockey with that they say the stupidest fucking shit. And you try to you try to discuss it with them in a like a respectful way, and they just completely ignore all facts and just make shit up. Yeah. And so you can't have a legitimate discourse with them. So why are we still trying?

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I'm not. I'm not, but but I just Well, you're asking why the Republicans are still No, I'm just wondering if they look at all this stuff because there's just so much now. At the beginning of his term, uh these people could have claimed ignorance. They could have gone, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02:

You don't mean that though he had four years of experience exactly.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, exactly. But you know, I'm gonna bring prices down. Okay, well, he didn't do that at all. I'm gonna end the war. He didn't do that at all.

SPEAKER_02:

So I know Oh no, he's ended nine. Yeah, I don't know if you knew that.

SPEAKER_01:

I know there's a couple of these bro podcasters who've questioned it now. They're kind of like, okay, this is this is bullshit. Yeah, Joe Rogan. Holy shit. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And when you get through that skull, it's obvious, huh?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. But and there's been a few. I hope that they're questioning this stuff, and I hope they're questioning it live on the air, and I hope you know, all their the base that they probably influenced to vote for Trump, I hope they're having the opposite effect now. I hope they're pushing them to question all this shit and maybe rethink that fucking vote.

SPEAKER_02:

But they don't have to worry about it because there won't be another election.

SPEAKER_01:

At least not a fair one. Right. But the thing is this if we can change the minds, right? If any of these fucking people, and I know there's gonna be a percentage who won't give a fuck what happens, they're gonna, they're gonna go down with the ship with Trump. If you can get the Democrats, let's just say the lazy fucking I don't want to know Democrats, and then you can get the Republicans who I don't want to know, and then the Republicans who are like, all right, well, I wanted him to do this, but he's not. If you can get all those people just aware, if you can get them to turn off the fucking news and pay attention to what's really going on, then when the time comes to do the general strike or the boycott, because you what we can't the people who protested when we do a boycott, financial boycott, that's not enough people to change things. You need millions and millions and millions of people to shut shit down. If you want to spend like a week saying nobody spend a penny, when you have those numbers, that will fucking turn heads. If you just have like the people who protested, they're gonna wait that out and that they know they can. We need people to get on board. I as much as I don't want to believe that or I don't want that to be the case, I think we need those numbers.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, yes, we do. The the problem is is you must have more faith in humanity than I do. I have none. Because quite honestly, anything that's going to put them in any kind of even the most minor difficulty or sacrifice, people aren't going to do. I I think I told you my wife's got a friend whose brother is gay, and we talked to her about why she still eats it Chick-fil-A after all they did. And she goes, Well, I I I like their soup or their chicken sandwich or whatever it was. And I'm like, so she can't even just go get a maybe a less than delicious, uh, I think they're better, but at Popeye's, buy with her, you know, her conscience for her own brother.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, that's pretty typical American if you ask me to do that.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, so nobody's gonna sacrifice anything. And and asking people to not go to work for uh how many days is that that's like a week, yeah. No one can do that. I could never have done that, right?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I I agree. I don't think the general strike is the way to go yet. Until we have the numbers, uh, that's not gonna do anything because very few people are gonna do it. The boycott, you know, I I think we could start. Look at Target.

SPEAKER_02:

Target really took a tank.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, they did. That that's the only example, though. Like, because I know people are saying that uh Disney got hit, but I was watching their stock and that they're they're fine. They they they took a little dip and then they went right back up. And again, the stock exchange has nothing to do with our real economy. Like a Walmart. That's my favorite example, because a Walmart, you know, that that's middle America, man. That's Republicans going in there and shopping. If you can get people not to go to Walmart for like a month, they're gonna be fucking whispering in Trump's air, man.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, they we need it to happen long enough where they're going, oh, oh, wait, this this is serious. Yeah, we're losing money. Yeah, we can't like losing money, and they'll start putting pressure on people too. But again, that's getting somebody to take the time to you know download goods unite us on the app, and so you know which companies to send. I mean, because we have to eat, we have to buy toilet paper, things like that. And we can stock up, but if we really want to make this work, we got to make it work for a month or two, right? Which means Well, you could eat. Oh, yeah. You just have to know which stores to shop.

SPEAKER_01:

You have to do local, no big chains. You everyone's local, even if you want to go out, you go to a local mom and pop restaurant, you're not putting anything back into those fucking billionaires' hands. You know, it it could be done. This is the easiest thing that everybody could do. It's a little bit of a sacrifice, so even the laziest fucking American can do this. It just has to be organized really well. It's got to be very targeted and it's gotta happen. Now, one thing I would like to see, and I've been disappointed, and mostly since this whole fucking thing began, which is pissed me off, is fucking Hollywood. I've said this before. Fucking Hollywood is fucking useless. It's like you motherfuckers, all the content you fuckers can create, right? You have all the smartest fucking writers, you've got the technical people, you've got everybody that you can fucking create some fucking content. I swear to God, we got our our late night guys like Colbert and everybody, and then you've got those fucking South Park guys. Oh my god, that fucking show, nobody else, worthless fucking twats. We need constant fucking content because you know what? Every fucking time that Trump does some dumbass thing, the fucking media is playing it over and over and over. So like him or hate him, but his fucking he's always on there. He he's a strong figure now because he's doing whatever fuck he wants. This is what feeds into his people's fucking psyche. It's just constant fodder for them. We need something on the other side. We need constant fucking content mocking that fat orange fucking slug.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, well, Chuck Schumer's not-I mean, he's useless. Uh Chuck Schumer. Adam Schiff, all those guys. Hey, where's Nancy Pelosi? Is she even still an elected official? Because I never hear her anything. The only one you hear is Gavin Newsom. Uh yeah, over in California. That's it. Yeah. And and Pritzker. And oh, I I looked it up. Pritzker can fire the uh chief of police. Okay. See, I would like to see put happen. Yeah, I think that's what we need to start doing a social media blitz on him saying, hey, how about firing that fat fuck? Yeah. Oh, well, we shouldn't say fat fuck because Pritzker's a little bigger guy, too. So but supposedly he's he's losing weight. He has, you can tell. Do you see he did he really win a million? I heard. I don't know. I heard I don't know if it's real. Because he needs money. Well, yeah, but you know he's a good guy, so I I'd rather have him win.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. I I still, Hollywood, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_02:

Is it because it takes so long for any of their productions to like, you know, because

SPEAKER_01:

Well, that could be mostly. You know, I I think they are. And the thing is, you don't even have to take credit for it. You you could just put it out into the ether and just be like, ooh, who did that? That's interesting. But we need constant shit. I mean, you mean like don't look up? Yeah. Basically like that. But it doesn't even have to be that. It doesn't even have to be like a movie. I mean, we could just start edit clips of that moron, that fat orange fucking piece of shit. Just his worst moments. Just thread them together. And every time we have a protest like a Broadview or anywhere, just put up a screen and fucking play that shit non-stop. Every time those fucking fat ice motherfuckers fall over themselves chasing after somebody, put that on a phone. Put it on a continuous loop, man. That's what I mean. We need constant shit mocking these motherfuckers because they hate it so much.

SPEAKER_02:

And post all the pictures that we can of every member of ICE. Even if all you see is their eyes, just have a constant screw, like you have a page that's all all it does is it cycles through all the pictures.

SPEAKER_01:

They seem to be proud of uh ripping people and families apart, so let's show them off.

SPEAKER_02:

You see, they can't get anybody that can pass the physical fitness test.

SPEAKER_01:

That's hysterical.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, looking at them, I mean they're all fat fucks.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah. Well, and then you got your other type of like your military, you got your uh J6 people who are pardoned, you got your proud boys in there, you know. Show. Yeah, but I I honestly, man, I there there are things we can be doing. I run, I really want to keep everybody safe. I mean, I'm really impressed with the protesters. I'm I'm these people go to Broadview and they're getting shot at and shit, and they they're they're there every fucking day. I've I've watched a couple people who are on social media and they're like, we're back again today, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, holy shit, man, good for fucking you. But like, I want them all safe. So we I think we need to change our thing and not get in the faces of ice. I think we need to fucking just mock them endlessly, because you know, we've got broadcast possibilities while we still do, because you know, eventually all the social media is gonna cut out anything that's fucking liberal or anything that's uh you know anti-fucking Trump or the administration. So we gotta take advantage of it while we can.

SPEAKER_02:

You know what else we need to do is, and I don't think it would be all that hard. Anyone who has anyone that they know or know of that's Hispanic that might be at risk of ice, tell them stay home, give me your shopping list, I'll go buy your cloth your groceries for you so you don't have to go. Absolutely, you know, and make it so that they have much more work to do to target everybody and you know, start educating everybody in Spanish on how not to open the door when they come to the door.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, they're doing a lot of that. I know a lot of organizations are doing that. Uh unfortunately, though, people still have to work. You know, they're gathering people, they're getting people at work, they're getting them at the fucking courts, you know.

SPEAKER_02:

You know, gangs don't have is this the same um moral code that we do. Maybe they need to start taking more uh of an active role, like even if it's just vandalizing ice vehicles. I'm not encouraging any breaking of the law, but there are things we can do to slow them down and make it more hard. If they don't mind spraying a house with bullets as they drive by and the may maybe they can use better targeting.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah, you're right though. There are things that uh and they don't have to be gangbangers, anyone. There are things that you can you can do to slow things down, right? You're not causing harm because God forbid if any real person took a shot at an ice agent, because I don't believe one of those fucking reports that, oh yeah, the people are shooting at the ice agents, bull fucking shit. That's just more crap and lies, man.

SPEAKER_02:

And and we don't want to kill anyone. We we just want do something that will scare them into m questioning because obviously asking them to do the right thing because of their moral code is out. Right. But if you can do something to intimidate them legally, you know, then do that. Like we need anonymous to start doing you know, because I see shit every once in a while, and it's like, so do something. I don't think I don't think how about all the hackers, the smart hackers, the good guys that you know who used to rob like banks and stuff and hit you know Wells Fargo and stuff. Have them start grabbing shit and start publicizing. Like, where the fuck is Mike Johnson's grinder account that I heard so much about?

SPEAKER_01:

And and where the fuck are come on, Epstein files. You know multiple people have seen those. Come on. We need to see them. Uh unfortunately, I'm just a dumb son of a bitch, but I know there's a lot of smart people in this world, and some of them have got to be on the right side here. Where the fuck are they? Step up.

SPEAKER_02:

Are they just hiding in their basements because they're afraid that if they come out and put their face to something, you know, they'll get a visit by ICE or Secret Service or Probably.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. You because you know the administration probably has tabs on all the uh the the smarter minds, the hackers and things who've been doing stuff in the past. And they they're probably working for them at this point, you know. I'm sure they've uh everyone has a price. That's one thing we've learned is like everyone has a fucking price.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, but there's the the the people who just the the people who are just so against the man, you know? Yeah. And we need them to start doing something or they're gonna be out of luck too.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, yeah, but unfortunately, I think the people who are against the man were always the fucking uh the militias, all these assholes who said, Oh yeah, the government, blah, blah, blah. And they're the ones, honestly, who are in ice right now. So it because liberals generally have been the easygoing fucking people. Now it's the liberals who are fucking getting angry because you know they're just fucking dissecting this fucking country, and they're just committing so many fucking atrocities. I I cannot believe our country is in this is in this situation right now.

SPEAKER_02:

And in I mean, that project 2025 was one hell of a blueprint because they got it all done really quick.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, again, when you own both houses and you own the Supreme Court, and you have uh the opposite side that's a very weak uh component. Yeah. You got a bunch of useless fucking dumb old twats who just are more concerned with their health care and their fucking insider trading. Yeah, you you will you have no opposition. So it's up to us.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, you know, here's here's the one thing that I always hold deep in my heart, and I think most people do. I think a lot of this whole thing loses steam once Trump's dead. When he keels over from too one Big Mac too many, he's the only one who draws the uh dedication from the idiots. Like everyone hates fans, even his wife hates them. Um and they hate Mike Johnson, they hate all those guys, they hate Jim Jordan. Those guys are not strong, and fucking Steven Miller, for Christ's sake, he scares the shit out of everybody. Yeah. But so when when Trump gets the big grabber or whatever happens, then maybe that'll lose a lot of steam. The other thing, too, is where the hell are all the other countries? God knows we have gone into other countries and done some covert shit to get the politics the way we wanted them directed. It wouldn't take very much for them to do the same thing here.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I don't think they're gonna just do it on their own. Like, I I think if there was some a force within our country reaching out, maybe it's kind of like the the Revolutionary War. We went over and we, you know, teamed up with French, with with French. We teamed up with France, you know, we convinced them, hey, this is good for you guys too, blah, blah, blah. I think we could do something like that, but again, I think they're still afraid of we are still an amazing superpower. We still have, and you got this fucking nut job in charge of shit, and all these fucking people. Listen, we're we're blowing up little boats on the ocean for no fucking reason.

SPEAKER_02:

Preempting so we can go to war with Venezuela. Yeah, it's just yeah, because those boats can really cross the ocean and get over here, and you know, we see they're laden down with so many drugs that they want to get to us.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't know how he didn't get the peace prize. Seriously, what what what what a what a joke.

SPEAKER_02:

I rape children, I rape women, I brag about it, and yet I didn't get it. Yeah, and I I we murder innocent people, we just randomly we rip apart families, those 1,200 missing people from alligator, uh, alcatress that were probably just dumped in the ocean, but from C-130s. It's like it's so heinous. And here's the other thing. Why can't then the other countries you don't want to do a covert, you know, op of getting rid of people, then you know what? Contact The Hague and get a uh multi-jurisdictional NATO group together and take them into custody for crimes against humanity.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, in a perfect world.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, again, it just needs some some courage, and there's a sorely lacking um, you know, there's just no courage left anymore.

SPEAKER_01:

The problem again, we've got we've got people just making shit up. We've got them coming up with just the the most absurd shit, and people still believe it. They're not being forced to prove anything, uh, they have no evidence for things. I mean, I would have thought like Charlie Kirk's fan base, I would have thought that that that is a big, big fucking Republican fan base. When it comes to light that he was probably murdered by, you know, somebody this administration or somebody, you know, maybe in a a government that we're very close to. When it comes to light that it was not this poor fucking kid that they're trying to say murdered him, that it was an inside job, and that I'm sure his wife was probably well aware of the whole time.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, they had the place booked ahead of time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

So the fact that Americans, I'm really hoping maybe that's gonna turn some heads. When they kill one of their own?

SPEAKER_02:

Well, yeah, when they eat their own.

SPEAKER_01:

Since they did kill one of their own, yeah. So I I have no faith in humanity, but you know, I keep hoping every day and wishing and praying.

SPEAKER_02:

So I think your naivete is extremely charming, Greg. Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. So, all right, well, that's about it for today. Uh, there's only so much ranting and depression that we can deal with at a time.

SPEAKER_02:

So we did have some ideas of things that could start like people people could start putting into motion. Hollywood, yeah, uh the rest of us protecting our Latino uh friends and family and neighbors.

SPEAKER_01:

True. You know, there's things I mean and there's lots of things that we we've talked about that we just can't talk about here because we'd probably go to jail. But there are things I think that everybody in the deepest, darkest recesses of their minds are thinking, ooh, it might be time to start doing this type of shit too.

SPEAKER_02:

I think that time is coming because it's very close. Uh people like you and I who are pretty you know chill, we're getting really angry. I don't think I see you and I we're too fucking old, but I don't see us doing anything, and I'm not encouraging anyone to hurt somebody else, but there are things we can do. Um and if something does happen to somebody, I'm not gonna cry shed any tears. Right. I'm not encouraging it, but I'm not gonna cry over it.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I I'm really praying for either heart attack, syphilis, something.

SPEAKER_02:

I want to something I want him to slip on the stairs going up to Air Force One. He goes down the stairs, breaks his neck, and then lingers like in Dave. He lingers for a few months painfully, and then he just croaks. And then that way everyone sees it. It's not, especially if it's a comical fall down the stairs where they can't even say, Oh, look at man, you know, they shot at him and he ducked. It's just something so pathetically.

SPEAKER_01:

But you know they'll make up something.

SPEAKER_02:

But yeah, but if we have cameras on them, it'll be a little bit more.

SPEAKER_01:

People are dumb, they'll they'll probably still believe. Yeah, but that would be lovely. Yeah. I I do think that does give us a help. Yeah. Yeah. In a perfect world, him taking a uh ball down the stairs would be great. But I I I'm okay. Even if uh even if he just croaks somewhere in his sleep, I I wouldn't prefer that, but I'll take it.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, again, though, the story we'd get would be, you know, sort of like his you know, doctor saying he's in better shape than any president alive. Yeah, you know, so 6'213 or whatever it is.

SPEAKER_01:

But um But okay, enough for today. Thanks for listening. Hopefully, we'll have some fantastic news of something positive to talk about next time. It's been a long time since we've had anything good to talk about. No, hey, do you have any tequila?

SPEAKER_02:

I always have tequila. Okay, good. Let's go get some and turn this off. Indeed.

SPEAKER_01:

All right, thanks for listening, and we'll see you next time around. Bye bye. Bye bye.