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This F@#king Country
If We Fail Our Kids, What’s The Country For
The room felt heavy before we hit record, and not because we’re out of hope. We’re two dads who can’t shake a simple question: if we fail our kids, what’s the country for? That focus pulls us from venting into a plan—how to move from scattered outrage to a movement that’s organized, safe, and impossible to ignore.
We start with the fragile miracle of America’s founding and the uncomfortable truth that institutions can be dismantled faster than they’re built. From there, we dig into the right’s messaging discipline and why disunity keeps kneecapping the left’s best intentions. Instead of chasing policy debates few people have time for, we argue for speaking to basic instincts: protect your family, demand honesty, and hold power to account. That’s where disinformation meets reality. With fresh proof of bot networks amplifying nationalist narratives, we lay out how to counter them by curating verified footage, court records, and on-the-ground reporting into a shareable stream of receipts that cuts through the noise.
Safety matters as much as truth. We talk about documenting ICE and DHS actions without giving authoritarians a pretext to escalate. Nonviolence isn’t passivity; it’s a strategy that slows harmful operations, protects people, and keeps the moral and legal ground. Then we face the pivot many avoid: economics. Prices and healthcare shocks will punch through spin, and when they do, people deserve clear explanations and actionable choices. We connect that to corruption—insider gains, media capture, and a system that shields the ultra-wealthy from risk—while pointing toward fixes that are practical, not performative.
This conversation won’t fix everything, but it does draw a map: build an information network, unify a message, protect our communities, and make decisions with our kids’ future in mind. If that resonates, follow, share, and leave a review with one action you’ll take this week to push the work forward. Your idea could be the spark someone else needs.
Hello and welcome to this fucking country. I'm your host, Greg, and with me is my friend John. How are you doing today, John? I'm doing great, Greg. Thanks for having me. Good to see you. Same here. We've done podcasts before. We are uh a couple fathers, we're neighbors. We both have uh three children, two boys and one girl. Now that that's kind of strange. Yeah, that worked out strangely. Yep. And we're both, I would say, I would qualify us as militant uh liberals. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. So angry as hell, scared as hell of what the hell's going on, and we both find ourselves scratching our head way, way too many times.
SPEAKER_01:Right. We need these get togethers because we're both on the verge of making some bad decisions. So I think a lot of times this conversation we have uh helps uh sort of clarify things for us a little bit and in in columns of waters to some degree.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah. I'm I'm hoping the day does not come where things happen in such a way that it does allow, it does justify us actually to make those bad decisions. Right. Yeah, but I I would not be surprised if it did happen. So recently I've been watching Ken Burns' documentary, The American Revolution, which is um so far what I've seen fantastic, but everything he does is fantastic. Watching it makes you do is it makes you understand how precarious uh and how fragile what we have in this country is. To me, it was a fluke, a freaking miracle that the things came together the way they did, the people that came together, and how it happened to create this fucking miracle of a country. You know, I I it's just amazing that it happened the way it did.
SPEAKER_01:Agreed, and that you had this group of people come from England that all had a like mind, like ideology, and were able to work together. Because often when you have a group of people that high-minded, it is tough to get everyone pulling in the same direction. Yeah. But we did, and like you said, it was the planets were aligned only for that short period of time because that just is a miracle that happened to use your words.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, ragtag group of people uh fighting the fucking British Empire. And somehow they they were able to last them out. I won't say win, but they were able to last them out enough and and gain their independence. And and here we are now, two hundred some years later, fighting for our democracy, like I don't believe we've ever fought before.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, agreed. What I think the last time we spoke, it it really struck me that my god, you know, we're both in our fifties, and we've spent the last ten years of our lives fighting fascism. It's insane. I I can't believe that I've spent 20% of my life fighting this.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and I can't believe how much of my fucking thought capacity I have spent waste well, I don't want to say wasting it, but it feels like I've been forced to waste this on this shit. On this just this constant flow of crap coming out of this corrupt administration. And this this term is is nothing like the first term. The first term was just a fucking you know circus animal f flinging shit everywhere, but no real power behind him. This time, this time they figured it all out. Right. Yeah, they're dismantling everything. So they're they're so efficient, they're so effective at what they're doing, and whoever's doing it is is pretty fucking brilliant. Uh evil, but brilliant. So we're at this point now where I believe we are truly at the crossroads where uh it's gonna be now if if if we don't, as a people, if we don't put a stop to this now or sometime in the next year, then I think instead of stopping it in fifty years we're gonna still be rebuilding it. You know, I I think it's either we stop it or it all comes fucking crashing down.
SPEAKER_01:Right. We we've mentioned this before about how as evil as they may be, or we think they are, their ability to message in a cohesive fashion is is cult-like. And I think that answers our question in many ways. You know, their their base is low information, perhaps willfully ignorant people um that uh buy into this ideology and you know, facts be damned, um, this guy hates the same people I hate, so I'm on board all the way. I think that's one of the struggles the Democrats have is you have a base of uh highly informed, passionate, caring people, empathetic people, but there's such a vast array of ideologies. They they meet in this um they do cross paths from time to time, but there's no cohesive message, and there really hasn't been for a very long time. And that sort of breeds this separation where these you know we end up fighting each other half the time instead of all pulling in the same direction.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. There seems to be a complicity in a Democratic Party. You know, we we've mentioned that before. It's just I I don't think they're just incompetent, they're certainly not stupid, uh, and they're they don't seem to be doing anything the right way. So again, you you're right, there's so many ideologies across the spectrum, but similar. You know, that they're all people who want to help people, more or less. Just what levels? The problem though is they're not united and they don't seem to have any fucking balls. And it we're at a point where we need balls. I mean, we need very big, serious balls. And there doesn't seem to be anybody out there that's got 'em. I think we're at a point now where the protests have been great, but we're past that point. And I think we've been talking about this, and I we we think that something new has got to rise out of this movement right now. I mean, I personally think 2026 will be a shit show in this country like we've never seen. I think the economy, I if we have any kind of weather incidents, if we have any kind of economic breakdown, which I believe is gonna happen, the people in this administration are not gonna be able to fix that.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Well, and they're gonna use any blip on the screen to take that next step. All they are doing is waiting in the weeds to force our hand and allow them to basically declare martial law. Yeah, and then all bets are off at that point. So if there is any anomaly whatsoever before or during this next election, this midterm, yeah, then the wheels are gonna fall off. And I don't know if we'll ever be able to get them back on.
SPEAKER_02:I agree. And not only will they not try to fix it, they'll take advantage of it, like you said, and they'll try to profit off of it. Well, yeah, any chance that he has to fucking screw uh the country and take more money and more wealth and more power. It like Musk, you know, the all these guys care about is more, more, more, more. Right. So what we've been talking about is this movement now, this movement, what is it, 5051? There's there's a few organizations that are planning the protests. There are doing great work. Okay, and there's these people out in Broadview protesting ice every fucking day. God bless them.
SPEAKER_01:You know, and this is there. I was I was at that facility for a short while before I went downtown.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's so what we've got is we've got small groups of people doing stuff. We've got the people on the internet, we've got the jolly ginger guy, we've got some vets, we've got Cliff Cash, who's a comedian who's making stuff all the time. I love them. There's a lot of people doing great work, but the thing is that we need we need that message, like you said, that the Republicans are so good at. We need our group. Yes, we need somebody to come forward. We need money, we need an organization who's got capabilities to put this together. And we need Hollywood or we need somebody to create content that we gotta keep plugging. But this has got to come together, and it's gotta come together like soon.
SPEAKER_01:We're kicking around some ideas before we went on this evening, and I mean, do we just come out and say it that we need to start picking a face for this movement or picking a group for this movement, and do we need to start uh calling them to action? Do we start gathering ideas to pull somebody out of the hat to start leading this?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I I I think that's necessary because uh while neither one of us have like anybody specific in mind, and and I think that it's probably gonna be multiple people because we were trying, we're racking our our brains trying to think of who it could be, but I think it might have to be a few people, uh, if not more. But we do need a network, we need a movement. I mean, I can't stress that enough. It has got to be all the people who've been protesting, anyone who wants to boycott, anybody who's willing to do anything, has got to be part of this, and we've got to be smart about it because they obviously have no problem uh committing all sorts of crimes and atrocities. They're arresting people just randomly, they're not filing charges. When they do go to court, they're getting thrown out of court because they're lying to the judges. So as long as we have courts, as long as we still have some semblance of a judicial system, we need to do something. We need to put the ball in play and we need to start doing better than they do.
SPEAKER_01:Agreed. One of the things that sort of stuck in my mind over the last few days when the location device was basically unveiled. Yes. And we learned what we've all we've known this all along, but all we can constantly do is say, well, these are bots, these are you know, Russian bots, um, these are servers, you know, in other countries, and it it literally does sound like tinfoil hat talk because we can't document it, we can't prove it until now. Now we have the basis, we have the proof, we've always known this to be true, but I believe the figure right now is somewhere between like two-thirds of the pro-maga, pro-nationalistic voices out there, right-wing voices, are bots from other countries, primarily Africa, Europe, and Russia. What I've been thinking very much about was this misinformation slash slash disinformation campaign that we've been subject to for decades, but really it's it's really been developed uh to a high level over the past ten years. I want to freaking combat that with an information campaign. I want to start flooding the zone. Like I don't know about you, but like when I'm on Instagram, I have a couple of different accounts. One is for my political views and one is for my my hobbies. I build cars and I'm in music and all that good stuff. And Jesus Christ, somehow every single day I'm flooded with these, you know, you know, these huge guys that are, you know, Christian dads. You're a Christian man that you know needs to know how to manage your time and still follow Christ and earn money. And it's I'm flooded with this right-wing Christian nationalist crap. There has to be some way to shift that and like get the Army Corps of Engineers and change the flow of the river. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Can we just start flooding them back with actual information?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, real facts. The problem we have is that we don't have an information network. We don't have Fox News, we don't have the capacity like they do. Yeah, we don't have state television. Yeah, exactly. And and we need that. We we do. I mean, we need, you know, they everyone keeps talking about George Soros like paying people off and like being the money behind the shit. But you know what, George Soros, put up some money, man. Let's create the fucking piece of it anyway. Yeah, I mean, because the media is basically owned. I don't know the percentage, it's gotta be 80%, if not more, owned by Republicans or conservatives. Right, both print and um television, digital. Right. So so facts and information that's you know truthful and even leans moderately liberal is not getting out there. Right. And if it is getting out there, it's met with the you say he say kind of bullshit where you have a Republican and a Democrat talking, and the Republican just spews out a bunch of lies and nobody checks him. Right. So people are sitting there watching, going, I don't know what the fuck to believe. You know, so so we need to create, we need to create an entire network, uh a media empire. And we need some people with money who value this fucking democracy or just are tired of the bullshit going on to create this, and then we need content creators to fucking start. I mean, again, we don't have to create any content. We could just start taking all of the information that people have been recording against ICE, against the administration, all these crimes, and just string this shit together and just let it play 24-7.
SPEAKER_01:Right, right, you know it well, like uh I think the comment uh I made before we even went on was you know, we don't need to create content, we just need to collate. Just gather this shit. Yep. It's all out there for all of us to see. My hope is um I think it's more than a hope. It's so important for everyone out there, myself included, and I've done it. When we see ice in the streets, we see DHS in the streets, it is so important. Don't ever, ever, ever get tired of filming them, photographing them, taking pictures of license plates, taking pictures of all of their actions, their locations, um, tracking all of this information. Because although we have to start playing a long game, I know we're in dire straits, we need to make this shit happen now, yeah, but we also have to be prepared for the other side because God willing, there's going to be another side, and we have to have all this information to source to start looking at faces and getting names. Get the database of the Jan 6 interactionists because they have all been pardoned and they are likely all in ice or working for DHS. Most likely. Yeah. So it's so important to document all of this. Don't get tired of doing it. Keep doing the work because all the information will be used against them in due time.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and it has been already. Like that uh Greg Bovino guy, but that piece of shit. I mean, that whole court hearing was basically the judge watching the footage, going, You're fucking lying to me, man. You know, yeah. So so that's fantastic. So it's already paying dividends. Exactly. Yeah, so definitely that that's fantastic. So we are doing the right thing. Everyone, uh I mean, again, the people who are out there uh protesting, the people who are getting in the face of ice, they're helping their neighbors, they're they're blowing the whistles, they're following them, they're chasing them. Just be careful. Again, I I love what they're doing, but I think we need to rework that whole process too. I think you know, you gotta stay safe. We cannot lose any of these people. The people who have the balls to go out there and confront these fuckers, though you guys are so few and far between. We cannot lose any of you. You are too valuable. So please be safe. What we need to do though, we need to do like kind of like what we did in the American Revolution. You see the enemy coming, you fire a few shots off, not saying we're shooting at them, but you go ahead, you dismantle what you can do, you run away. You set up safely in front, and then you have people down different streets to do any kind of damage. We need we need to start changing gears. We have to start being more efficient and safer. We can't start doing any kind of violence because once because they're already lying, saying that you know the protesters are being violent, right? But you know the day that somebody actually does take a shot out of one of these fuckers, everything's gonna change. So we cannot do that yet. But we can be very efficient. You know, we we we could dismantle. I I heard in um what is it, North Carolina that they're slashing their tires, they're finding out where they're sleeping overnight. And yeah, so I love that. I mean they they learn from Chicago and they're kind of going, all right, hold my beer. Right.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I mean, doesn't it doesn't it give you just a glimmer of hope though? Because you know, we did chase them out of Chicago. It took a little time, yeah, but we chased them out of here. Now we gave North Carolina a bit of a framework to see what works. Yeah, and every time they make another stop, our organization escalates against them. And by that I mean they are better prepared, they understand what is coming now, and they have some time to think about how they're going to approach it. And like you, like you said, we're not talking about physically harming anyone, right? We're talking about disabling them, slowing them down, meaning their process, not them physically. Cars, yeah. Yeah, ultimately that'd be fine too. Right. But um make their job harder to do. Make their job harder. Make them hate what they do, even though they love doing it, yeah. And you know, they'll come up to your car window with their swastika tattoo on their neck. Yeah, but at the end of the day, every moment they're awake has to be suffering. They have to suffer, they have to know that they're hated, despised. And that's fine. If they want to, you know, circle in, you know, circle the wagons and rely on each other to support what they're doing, fine. Go ahead and you know, rest with the dregs of society.
SPEAKER_02:KKK has been doing it for hundreds of years. Exactly.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but let's make every moment unsufferable for them, pardon me. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. And now I guess they're gonna be going to Louisiana next, which is fantastic because they got the voodoo down there. Right. So I'm I'm really hoping I'm really hoping that voodoo shit is real right now.
SPEAKER_01:Is it Mike Johnson from Louisiana? Is he? I think he is.
SPEAKER_02:I think he is from a tree in the woods or something. Yes, you're right. The groups are learning and they're getting better and better at this, and which is fantastic. And you're right. I want them to hate every fucking day they wake up. I want them to look outside, and when they're not looking within that little circle of uh like-minded assholes, anyone they look outside, I want them just looking at them like they're pieces of shit. You know, I I want I want their very unsatisfied wives and girlfriends to be like kicking them out of fucking house. They're like, no, you little dicked motherfucker. Like in that Greg Bovino, does that guy give you little dick energy more than anyone else you've ever seen in your life?
SPEAKER_01:He yeah, he is uh he's like Rick Moranis wanting to be Darth Vader, you know, he's space balls. He is just a tiny little dickwad that absolutely has no power, no satisfaction, no achievement in his life, and this is all he has. And he's gonna ride this horse until it drops. Oh, yeah. And when it does drop, we're gonna be there to, you know, throw cuffs on him.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Yeah, I I hope someday he's in prison. He finds himself a nice little girlfriend. Oh man. Some things are going right. Unfortunately, the crimes they're committing, the laws that they are fucking uh violating are seem to be uh increasing. The the shit they're doing, they're leveling up. Uh we and I I don't think we can maintain if we don't level up somehow with them. I think it's time that we have to come together. And I think this networking thing, I think this information blast, I'm hoping could help inform people. Maybe anyone who's on the edge, maybe who's like kind of thinking, well, this is not what I fucking signed up for. It's like, okay, great, you know, turn off Fox News, learn something, and then make a decision. Make an informed fucking decision. It's like we could disagree on shit. We don't all have to fucking get along. You just have to decide. Do you, as a person, as an American person, and especially men, do you want to protect people? Do you want to protect your children? Do you want to protect your children from getting shot to death in schools? Would you like to protect your children from being molested? Rape? Is that seems like a no-brainer? Do you want to keep your children safe from any kind of environmental effect or issue, uh, any kind of global warming issue? Do you want to keep them safe from an economic collapse? Do you want to see all of your money disappear? Your job lost. If you want these things, then I think most Americans, this is vital. As a father, right? As a man, we are we are here to protect. That's what we want to do. And I don't know how the how the people in this country, especially the men in this country, like look at these fucking guys and think these are strong men and that they're looking out for them or their families.
SPEAKER_01:Right. When it comes down to it, Greg, I think so we get fired up very easily. And you know, we uh we've spoken about this. You know, we are willing to go the extra mile if we didn't have wives and children that were depending on us to make smart decisions to make the world a better place for them. And the things we'd like to do right now would give us instant gratification, but it wouldn't make them any safer or better. It'd do the opposite, I'm sure. It it would. So to your point, how do we get, and I think this is a question you're asking, how do we connect with those people, let's just say on the other side, that they have to have the same survival instinct, the same want to protect their families and the same love for their family, right? Right. I mean, I mean they're humans just as we are, but we might believe in completely different ideologies, but that doesn't mean we don't want to protect our 14-year-old daughter from from you know some Christian nationalist creep, some pastor somewhere, some youth counselor. There's common ground there. Yeah, how do we connect at that level?
SPEAKER_02:Right. It's getting the information out there somehow because I think they're not turning off Fox News. And again, I have a real fucking issue with those assholes of Fox News because any every one of those motherfuckers knows they're lying. Every one of them, they they know what they're doing, they're spinning shit just for wealth, just for power, and they are damaging so many of these average people who don't have the time to really pay attention to this shit, or they're they're just trying to survive, right? And they're being lied to, they're being misguided, misrepresented, and they're getting just fucked over. And I mean, and they're voting against their own best interest. I mean, we we've got to get to these people. Um I know there's a percentage of people who are fucking gone, who are lost, and fine. Okay, I accept that. But I do believe a majority of people in this country want the things we're talking about. They want to protect, they want good things for their family, they want their children to grow up safe, healthy, not fearing every fucking day. There's such a divide right now. It's being done intentionally by this fucking administration.
SPEAKER_01:The question I have for you then is uh what would the approach like what information are we getting out there? Can is it safe to say that Democrats need to shut the fuck up about policy because no one gives a shit about policy other than us? I think we need to get down to that very basic human DNA level of speaking to feelings and emotions. Um so there's a great follow um on social media, uh right wing, and what they do is they track Republicans and Christian nationalists and all these slime balls that are invariably and inevitably arrested for child porn or seems like one every single day. It's every I used to post it every day when I was, you know, making sure that I got that out there so people know knew. Yeah. But it got to the point where like, oh my god, so much is coming out that this is like putting me in some algorithm. Yeah. But the point is, is do we stop talking about policy? Because clearly they don't give a shit or they don't have the sense to vote for their own interests. Right. So every accusation is confession with them. We've established that. Do we then just turn the tables? Do we just flood the zone with, you know, quote, their people, unquote, involved in these heinous acts to help them see that we are not the problem. These guys are the problem, and they're telling you that we're the problem. When in reality, they are guilty of everything they're accusing us of. Right. Does that do you think that would make a difference?
SPEAKER_02:I don't know how it would hurt. I don't know if that's the the super the the fine line. I I personally think the reason Trump got elected is the reason that we can turn the shit around, is the economy. Yeah. Because Mr. I'm gonna stop the war, I'm gonna fucking bring prices down day one, right? I hate to say it, but I think it's gonna take our economy to fucking tank before they realize this. And they'll try and spin it and say it's the Democrats' fault and everything. But the fact is these people are not stupid. Yeah, they see that they're paying more, they understand that he fucking lied now. So I think we need to beat that to death. We need to get this information to them because Fox News, which is one of the only things they're watching, are not telling them that. You know, you see Trump goes on and goes, yeah, inflation's down, prices are down, even though, and some of these fucking people, I don't know if they're like thinking maybe I'm shopping at the wrong store. I mean, I don't know how they're fucking rationalizing this because you know we have to start the media blitz and we have to hit them with the facts. They they see the prices, so this is something you know they have to know. It's inescapable, right?
SPEAKER_01:They're living the same reality we are.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, there's only so much they can escape. Now, they can probably never hear about ice doing what they're doing. They that I'm sure Fox News never talks about that. But the prices and when the healthcare thing happens January 1st, that's gonna be a real shit show too. Right. So so that's gonna happen. That's why I'm saying 2026 is gonna be a time to make a difference. This shit's gonna hit the fan for your average American citizen. And I think some people who don't want their eyes open will have their eyes open at that point. And we need, I mean, we being us militant liberals, uh, us who want to get back to some kind of normalcy and decency in this fucking country, we need to have something in place so that we can we could take advantage of the shit when it hits. Because they're gonna spin it, they're gonna do their normal thing. And if we don't have something in place to say no, this is the fact, you know, this is what happened, right?
SPEAKER_01:Then we're just fucking spinning our wheels again. You know, that's what it comes down to. I think we're so accustomed to trying to make lemonade out of lemons. We unfortunately, I think, will have to dwell on the tragedy that is coming within the next month, month and a half, and help these like it'll be like you know, a clockwork orange. You know, we'll have to hold their eyes open. Yeah. They will have to see it, whether they like it or not. Unfortunately, you're right. I think we do have to dwell on how unfortunate things are going to get for millions of people over the next few months. It might be our only way out. I think that's the only thing that's gonna hit home. You know what strikes me with Marjorie Taylor Green and her announcement, and over the past few weeks, you know, she's been going online with healthcare costs. Like, oh, my sons, you know, their premiums are doubling and tripling. It's it's not shocking because we've said this all along. They don't give a shit about anything until it happens to them, and then it's a crisis to be addressed. Marjorie Taylor Green was guilty of all of these situations that are now impacting her life in a negative way. And now she's just getting the brunt of it. So I'm not gonna give you know what I'm not gonna give her credit for shit. No, I'm just she gets no credit for a lot of people. No, she's a crazy psycho bitch. She is, but that she stuck to her guns about the Epstein files and what's going on in this regard, and that turned Trump on her. Right. Now she's seeing how crazy the MAGA community is because they're going after her now. She's getting death threats. Her children are getting death threats. They don't care about any of this until it happens to them. And I'm so glad it brings me great comfort and joy to know that she is suffering every moment because she's decided that she, you know, is going to stand her ground with the Epstein files. And um now she, you know, got she's getting what she deserves.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and I don't think she's uh legit. I don't think she's sincere at all. I think she's playing a long game for some something. I'm sure we'll discover later. But I I don't know. I think that woman's out of her fucking mind. I think she's a horrible human being. So I'm glad she's doing this because if if there are maggots listening to her who normally liked her and splinter baby and it's creating any kind of doubt in their mind, fantastic. Like, let's use her. Keep putting her on the news. You know, but I have no doubt in my mind that woman is not sincere at fucking all.
SPEAKER_01:First thing my wife said to me when she made the announcement was yeah, what's what's her angle here? Yeah, what's you know, it was not for a moment did we think that uh, oh yeah, you know what, she finally had the tables turned on her and you know she just wants out. No, no, she has an angle. We haven't really figured it out yet. But something's coming down the pike.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, absolutely. What I'd love to see too now with these Epstein files, there's got to be the low-hanging fruit. Somebody in these files who they can get to who's like going, okay, you know what? I know shit. Like Bannon seems like he's a gutless fucking piece of shit. Right. And you know he's all in there. And it sounds like him and him and Epstein were best buddies, and they knew they had Trump. Man, I would I would sit there and figure out a really good fucking strong case against Bannon. Yeah. And then I would be like, okay, bitch, give him a chance to turn. And yeah, because that that's and because then he's got a lot of people who love him who are fucking nuts too. He would be the great, great fucking guy to spin.
SPEAKER_01:It would be. And you know what's most disgusting about all this? Yeah, the fucking victims. No one gives a shit about the victims. Absolutely. You know, I'm I agree with you. Getting Bannon to turn would be monumental. Yeah. But why is it that all of these victims that have come forward and said that they were with Epstein or with this person, whomever, doesn't make a bit of difference. That is so I don't know if you've watched any of this documentary about Epstein and the girls and how they were they've were recruited. No. What's it what's it called? What's it on? Um it just started on Netflix. Okay. I'm just uh two episodes in right now. Um and when I'm watching this episode, you know, these girls are in unfortunate situations. They they don't have full families, maybe no parents, you know, they're living on the street or in broken homes. And I just picture my daughter who, you know, was 14, 15 years old. Imagine if things didn't, you know, we were very fortunate, we didn't have much money, but we kept it together and we got through tough times. You know, what if our daughters were caught up in something like that just because they're trying to somehow survive? Right.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And these these women have come forward, you know, they're being interviewed as adults. They've come forward saying this happened. Yes, we we've done this. Yeah. How is this not running on the news 24-7? Yeah. Why aren't these women on every single talk show, every single newscast? I we should not be able to escape seeing them on TV or hearing them on radio.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it takes me right back to what I said earlier is that who the fuck are we as as Americans? Do we protect our children? And we have failed to protect these girls. We have failed. All we hear now. is who's fucking guilty and who might be this and who might be that. No one is fucking talking to these poor women. And you know, no one is apologizing for how badly we fucked up this case and what we did. No one's apologizing that that crazy bitch is in some fucking uh leisurely fucking prison right now, living living the fucking dream. That's a covered puppy. Yeah, that woman should have been strung up by her fucking toes. But again, what kind of fucking country are we? We failed those girls. Are we going to continue to just worry about the billionaires and covering their asses or are we going to fucking hold people accountable? Democrats or fucking Republicans, we don't fucking care. Democrats want our people fucking in prison as much as anyone else if they're fucking guilty. Hell yes. All right. So we can't we cannot say that enough. Us as human beings, who the fuck are we? What kind of a people do we want to be? Are we going to protect our children? I listened to this one uh thing on Instagram. This guy's name is Robert Arnold and he's got a clip out there. It's called uh What We Should Be Protecting and it it refers to the Epstein files and and these poor girls and how we failed as a country. I would strongly recommend uh listening to that Robert Arnold uh what we should be protecting it I mean it was so eloquent I honestly thought about just doing a podcast where all I did is just say what he said but I wouldn't be able to do it justice. So please if you have a chance listen to him because he just nails it. So here we are at the end of 2025 what they say 48% of Project 2025 has been implemented already. I think that's the number could even be more at this point.
SPEAKER_01:I think it's more at this point but yeah somewhere around there.
SPEAKER_02:So here we are going into 2026 it gets worse every day the criminality and corruption gets worse every day but there's so many things that are surfacing the Epstein files there's so many bits of information that we can we can use you know the court cases against ICE all these things we know what they're doing. Okay they're they're they're not hiding it anymore they're doing it in plain sight I have to go back to people that I disagree with people that I might have been motherfucking on all my other podcasts have got to decide who are you you know who are we as a people are we going to let this shit continue to happen are we gonna just bury our head in the sand you don't have to agree with us about economic policy.
SPEAKER_01:You don't have to agree with us about foreign relations if you're a father a mother you're a parent if you're a human being can we not all agree that our children are sacred and what we're leaving them is finite. But you know their future is not endless. We are in a very precarious situation right now. So whether you're a Republican or Democrat can we not agree that uh the future for our children is paramount. Nothing else matters at this point. Brown people coming to mow your lawn or you know work in some fast food restaurant, they're not critical to your survival and nor are they taking work from you. Can we start focusing on the things we have in common like our future and our children and what we're leaving for them what kind of country we're leaving for them what kind of government we're leaving for them. But they're going to be stuck with whatever we've created right now and if we don't fix it they wouldn't want to continue. No.
SPEAKER_02:And it's so fixable. This country is so fixable it's not broken yet but there is so much wealth in this country I don't know if we are still considered the wealthiest nation on the earth but if not we're really really far up there. If we simply fucking tax some of these fucking corporations and some of these billionaires doesn't even have to be at a high fucking rate if we simply tax them at a decent rate we can solve so many fucking problems but we keep voting in people who are fucking protecting these fucking guys. Do you realize that so many Congress people come in uh a lot of them come in rich already but the ones who don't they definitely leave rich they're they're getting fucking paid man you know we gotta stop voting in these type of people we you know we we need people like Bernie Sanders we need a fucking thousand Bernie Sanders in there who who are just speaking the truth who are not taking money who care about people who genuinely care about people because we cannot just let this shit go on when it's so easy to fix. We have so many smart people in this country who can solve this shit and we have enough wealth in this country to solve this shit. So why the fuck aren't we solving this shit?
SPEAKER_01:Because the people with the most don't have the want. The people with the most don't care to solve these problems and that's to your point what we have to fix. Marjorie Taylor Green is dumber than a bag of hammers but she is smart enough to come in I think her um her worth when she came into office was three or four hundred thousand dollars literally when she announced her impending retirement I want to say her worth was um valued somewhere between like twenty seven and thirty two million dollars. Crazy she can't I don't know that she can write a complete sentence with correct grammar but she's smart enough to know that insider trading is going to happen they have the inside track to they can make decisions before the rest the general public has the information to make those same decisions and that's the type of thing that has to be eradicated.
SPEAKER_02:Absolutely yeah when you have 25 million when you have a hundred million when you have a billion when you have four hundred billion dollars you don't really give a shit about what's going on in the country because you can buy your way out of any fucking thing that's one thing about America is the rich can buy their way they can get away with murder they can do anything they want. They don't give a shit about the people the average fucking person and there's a lot of us you know just trying to get by just trying to live and fall in love and have a house and take care of our kids this has got to be a unifying call and it's got to be now we've got to fucking get this shit fixed. We've got to come together we don't have to agree on everything. You know what if you really have a fucking problem with the trans person on a sports team in your high school that's fine. That's something we can address later one of like 15 in the country something like that. The fact is that we have to solve the big problems right now. We have to keep the country before it gets destroyed. There's a lot to do. There's a lot to do and you know what us radical liberals are not going to be able to fix it. No. You know I I will I will say right now no matter how many of us there are we cannot fix it without the other half of this country doing it with us all of us together trying to fucking get something solved coming together as American citizens because you know what what the fuck is this country? It's just the fucking people and if they can keep us separated over stupid shit blaming other people then we're all fucking lost. Not just us we're all fucking lost as we're all going to find out next year when the shit hits the fan when inflation hits higher healthcare dies we're all going to be in the same fucking boat.
SPEAKER_01:Yep oh yeah we're all gonna be paying the that same high price and it's gonna hurt everybody.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah as a father I I can't stomach that idea for my children. I don't really give a fuck about me because I'm old but the idea that my children are gonna have to fucking suffer through this for basically the rest of their fucking lives if we don't fix it now does anybody want their children have to suffer through this shit?
SPEAKER_01:I think that says it all right there. Yeah that's the common thread that should at the very least get us all thinking along the same lines what are we leaving for our kids? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I think we can kind of tie this up and basically I want to just summarize everything it's like we need a movement. We need something together we need we need information getting out we need content being uh put together so that anyone who has any interest in the facts have access to them we need people to see what is happening and we need to come together somehow. Whether it takes a fucking catastrophe or an economic collapse or some bloody miracle I don't know. But something's got to change it's got to change now. We have about 12 months it feels feels like something has to happen within the next 12 months or I think you're being oh man you're being optimistic yeah I'm giving it six I I think in six months if we don't figure something out yeah I think it's gonna be bad.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe I'm using the next election as sort of the uh the finish line yeah but um yeah the time is now there is no more tomorrow to think of it.
SPEAKER_02:Indeed. Well I think that was actually probably more positive than I thought I was going to be going into this one. All right well thanks John and thank you all for listening and uh hopefully we'll uh we'll be back again soon.
SPEAKER_01:Thanks so much Greg.
SPEAKER_02:All right bye bye