Super Bowl Trivia + Brett Walker previews the big game!

Josh, Lee and James discuss the sad news of HOF QB Sonny Jurgensen's passing before Lee puts the boys through their paces with his famous Super Bowl trivia. A final word on plans for the game and a surprise prediction from James before Brett Walker from the BCS podcast joins again to chat about his Patriots' chances tomorrow.

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0:02

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josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 0:37

welcome to another edition of the Head on Free podcast. It is Super Bowl weekend. A number of us before this season started predicted Washington to be in the Super Bowl. As we know that is not the case. So instead today we have a lot of fun with James and Lee joining me for the first part of the podcast. And then Brett, Brett Chat Sports podcast has joined for a brief chat about the game tomorrow as a Patriots fan. But as we're not talking anything Washington before we would go to one of my Anne James's great joys in life, which is trivia. And Lee is very, very kindly, whilst he's quite busy, I believe at work, managed to carve out some time to do some trivia. So thank you very much Lee. And also, hello, happy weekend and happy three points of Rip Switch.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 1:20

Hello, Josh. Hello Sports fans. Great win this morning for For a switch. That's a good start to the Super Bowl weekend. holiday weekend for all of us as we have, what a nice Monday to not worry about, work to look forward to as well. Um, so yeah, can't wait. Actually listen in the middle of the week to a couple of podcasts and I'm now in the mood for Super Bowl. I'm now in the mood and I, I actually think it's gonna be a sneaky good game. So I'm, I'm ready for tomorrow, but also ready to talk, some Washington News after some, some hard hitting news yesterday. But the celebration of a great life of won the all time greats for Washington.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 1:57

Yeah, we're talking about, and let's do that quickly now as you mentioned it. So unfortunately, Sonny Jergenson passed away, age 91, uh, hall of Fame quarterback, who, if people aren't aware, had one of those weird careers where he was just split pretty much 50 50 between two teams. Um, drafted out of Duke as a quarterback by the Eagles. So he played the first eight years of his career in Philly, seven or eight years, and then the remainder of his career, 10 years in Washington. Um, pretty rare these days to play for two teams for that, long for both of them, and be beloved by both franchises. Which Sonny was, um, a standup guy and a hell of a quarterback. Uh, and one of the few numbers that we obviously in Washington have retired, um, won an FL championship with Philly in 1960. He's a two time all pro first team, two time, second team all pro. Um, he led the league in pass in five times, touchdowns twice, just a, a fantastic quarterback for the league for our franchise. Sad news that he passed away. Um, Lee, I'm assuming you as well as me, knew Sonny a lot from his radio work, uh, in the booth, which he did for many years. Uh, after his playing career with Sam, half the other hall of Famer.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 3:13

Yeah, that's the thing. As a, as a Washington fan, you obviously know of Sonny Jerson when you hear about the history of the team. And even an NFL fan will obviously know the name, but an incredible player. But for us, he was still very much part of our era as well.'cause of those radio calls, he'd done well into his eighties. And I remember him always joking with great, um, Jay Gruin about the, the fades that he used to throw to the, to the back corner of the end zone. But, uh, an incredible character, an incredible life. Um, made it all the way to his nineties. So a historic figure in, in the city and, and around the, the game, of course.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 3:50

Absolutely. He was good fun in his later years on, on the radio coverage as well. It's worth listening to, um, JP Finley's radio show yesterday. They did a big segment on it. It's worth kind of going back to that if people haven't heard, lots of people phoned in and did stories about Sonny, including Lee. Actually, a story that, um, if I've got time I'll clip it in, but if not, go and find it of, uh, Sonny and Sam h getting into a. Fire at Soldier Field throwing, throwing punches and beer cans at someone on the back row who was giving it to them back in, back in the, uh, late nineties. So, uh, a bit of Chicago action there for you.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 4:24

Nice. That will please James as

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 4:26

Yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 4:26

know, getting into it with Bears fans. So how are you, James this morning?

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 4:29

Yeah, I'm here as well. Um, yeah, I'm right. Lee, I have a question for you'cause you mentioned in our chat yesterday you went to upgrade your phone. You had some trouble in the uh, apple store, so I've been kind of picturing that and you in a busy Apple store maybe getting a bit stressed. So I'd call out to hear about more of that before we dig in.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 4:47

yeah, I did, I did say will know about this. My, my phone wasn't charging particularly well over the Christmas period and I had to use one of those, like charging pads rather than the, the, the wire cable. And I made it all the way through January doing that because I just had it on my desk at work and overnight because I hate stuff like getting a new phone because of, I'm just impatient and,'cause

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 5:11

No.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 5:11

all the time. If you, if you do it by mail, you know, you have to sign for it and it'll never come when I'm there, then you have to box up your old phone if you, all that kind of stuff. If you've trading it in, it's like, I'm just gonna get it done. But I put it off for like four weeks, but this week I, I went into the T-Mobile store and it was. A lot of fun, you know, after work, right in the center of Chicago, two people working, about 15 people in there to get assistance for various things from that have lost their charger to people asking some stupid questions, to people wanting an EI, I was the only one that was actually gonna worthwhile, you know, getting an extended contract and an upgrade. I, I think I waited at least, you know, like when you're like, I'll just walk out, but you were too far in. Do you know what I mean? So I

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 6:00

In too deep.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 6:01

was there for like 40 minutes and I was getting angrier and

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 6:04

Yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 6:05

anyway, to be fair to the guy who was serving at least 10 people at once, to be fair to him, he did, um, keep the store open to get, to get me squared away. So I am the proud owner of the latest iPhone and all my, my, um, previous data, et cetera, transfer over. So to get it done in one go, perfect. The ends justify the means of, uh, making it like a 12

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 6:30

So Yeah. Right.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 6:32

you,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 6:32

Good, good news story then. Um, yeah, it's a problem when you're in one of those shops because there is no quick query in front of you. So you're often waiting quite a while on some sort of sofa.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 6:42

Yeah. Sofa. That'd been nice. It it is. like a skit though with the different people that were coming in there. And rather than just having people to wait, they would just kind of coming in and shouting at these poor stuff, really? And just, I only need a charger. I only need a charger. Um, how about this? How about that? And I'm like,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 6:59

Wait, wait. Your turn at the Genius Bar. I hate that setup. I could do a whole thing on on that set. A hot take on that setup is ridiculous.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 7:08

in the off season

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 7:08

Yeah,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 7:09

Well, it's hot.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 7:09

Uh,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 7:10

yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 7:11

non-football

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 7:11

Yeah. That'll be

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 7:12

It's right.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 7:13

but real quick on that, I'm, I'm a person that just wants to get it done rather than wait for something

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 7:18

Yes.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 7:18

in the mail and sign for it. If I'm not all that stuff, just, I, I'd rather take the two hours of pain than like five steps to get what you need, if you know what I mean.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 7:27

Hmm.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 7:27

there you go.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 7:28

Yeah. yeah, glad to get that out in the open and just get to the bottom of that.'cause that has been, uh, bugging

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 7:33

That's it.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 7:34

since yesterday. Um, but yeah, super Bowl week, I said to Josh, it's taken me a while to actually get into this because spent so long wishing the season away from what we're watching, but listen to a few podcasts this week and, um, we obviously got a few plans tomorrow, so looking forward to it and ready to go.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 7:51

Yes, our plan, it's gone

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 7:53

Oh, uh oh. Sorry. I know we've got a lot to get to, but can you tell me about your plans really quick? Because it's always been a bar in London, various different football bars or you you've seen to pick a new place every year. But this is out of the city, correct.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 8:07

very much so it's in, uh, it's technically Cambridge Share, I think.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 8:12

Is it?

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 8:13

I think so. Or is it Essex? I dunno, actually, lemme have a look. Um, saffron Walden, uh, which is almost like halfway between London and Ipswich, making it a bit fairer for those of us in the fantasy league who always go down from Ipswich to London to a bar, um, are reigning. Loser, Pete managed to do some excellent work, finding a place big enough and decent enough for us all to watch the game together. So we're at a big house. I'll send you the linky actually. You'll like it. I think. Have a look at the cinema room and the hot tub and all this.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 8:46

Um, there is one little quirk there, isn't there, Josh? That, um, there are some Harry Potter themes throughout the house for

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 8:51

There are, yeah.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 8:52

so I dunno how, how that's gonna fare. Uh, yeah, there is a hot tub. There is a cinema, cinema room. Um, there is someone that's been named the Champions Lounge, where previous fancy winners will be able to have a drink.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 9:04

Both of us included.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 9:05

anyone who hasn't won won't be allowed in that room.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 9:08

So I need, I need a lot of, um, photos

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 9:11

Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 9:12

the evening. So this, if there's just some big Airbnb with

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 9:15

yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 9:16

bedrooms or

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 9:16

Exactly that. Yes, yes.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 9:18

I think there's a lot of, there's probably some bunk bed situations in there as well. I think probably

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 9:22

you organi, are you organized for all the beer and stuff? Or you have, you found a store nearby, et cetera?

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 9:27

I've not,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 9:28

the food situation,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 9:29

lot going on there. Someone is pre preparing some pool pork, I believe. Um, there is a domino's nearby for anyone's pizza needs.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 9:36

Few Sunday pubs, lots of pubs in the area.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 9:39

plenty of pubs. Um. So, yeah, I think, I think we're good to

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 9:42

We're all, we're all set. Yeah.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 9:43

some, uh, controversy and debate over the parking situation, but

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 9:47

Yeah.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 9:47

won't waste time with that. I've, we've already wasted enough time

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 9:49

Yes. Fucking hell yeah. Let's move swiftly on.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 9:52

you.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 9:52

We are very, we're very excited though. It's g it is gonna be nice to not be, uh, stumbling outta a bar at 4:00 AM after being annoyed at various groups of idiots. Instead, we'll all be together in a house being idiots, which is much better

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 10:03

Just annoyed at

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 10:04

probably, I must admit. Uh, no. Very excited. Um, James la last thing before we do the kickoff of trivia, we're just delaying Lee's moment to shine here, but, um, I've sent you, uh, in our group chat, I've sent a, a video highlight that I found of Sly Jergenson completing a behind the back pass in 1961. So if you haven't seen much of Sonny, that's the style of guy that he was. So it's worth having a look because that

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 10:28

this, I saw this yesterday and I

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 10:30

Ah, nice. Yeah.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 10:31

so I was like, oh, this was happening in the seventies or sixties, whatever it was. So, yeah, I'll probably have another look into that. I saw he was doing some casual phrase on practice field, like he's gonna throw it then, like the velocity on the

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 10:43

Yeah.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 10:44

the back pass as well. Insane.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 10:45

Crazy in that era, right? Um, Lee, you got one more thing? Sorry. God. Oh, I thought you raised, I thought you, I thought you raised your hand in, in, like, in, as, in to trying to interject or something else. Okay.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 10:57

massive

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 10:57

Just des

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 10:58

there

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 10:58

Desperate,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 10:59

Lee interjecting.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 11:00

desperate to, uh, to kick on with his Super Bowl weekend trivia. Um, I am going purely off my own

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 11:07

this.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 11:08

vibes. I've done no prep for this. I'm excited and scared.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 11:12

I sort of did when Lee put the in, but I don't retain knowledge too well as just a general rule, so we'll see.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 11:24

We're ready to go then. Exciting stuff. James. I'm glad you've done some, some homework. I did put the four rounds in. So overview. There will be four different rounds for the quiz. There will be five questions in each. There'll be different amount of points for various questions. total is 31. A little bit of a, um, well, I'm gonna give you both basically one lifeline here. So essentially. You can each ask for a clue on any given question. So you just have to stop the quiz and say, I need a clue. I will WhatsApp you to your phone. That clue so the other person doesn't get the clue. If that

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 12:04

Are we WhatsApping you our answers or I shall I not interrupt?

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 12:08

no. I'll just, I'll just do it on, um, at the

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 12:11

Yeah. All right.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 12:13

I think, James, your, your mic has got a bit of feedback on, can you hear that, Josh? I might,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 12:17

I reckon it's you, mate.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 12:21

Sorry, I was on mute as well. No, I think it's fine.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 12:24

Okay,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 12:24

so, so we're gonna, I'm gonna type out my answers then, so we get, and at the end we, okay.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 12:29

And for anyone playing at home, we'll do the answers all at the

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 12:32

Okay.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 12:32

that you can just pause the, um, pause the podcast if you wanna join in with this Fun Field Super Bowl episode. Okay. So let's get into it then. So the first round. is gonna be, uh, the category of players and teams. And this is gonna be all about Super Bowl or the last 10 years of Super Bowl history, starting from the Pat's Seahawks last Super Bowl, which was January, 2015. February, 2015, sorry. Okay, are we ready? Write your answers down. So one point is available for the first question. Now, when you need the clue, you can only do it on a question that's worth one point, not on another question that's worth multiple points.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 13:14

Okay.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 13:15

keep that in mind. Okay? Okay. Question

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 13:19

Rules.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 13:20

Ready to go?

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 13:22

Sunday's big game is a rematch of Super Bowl 49, when the Patriots and Seahawks once again take the field. The last encounter will be remembered for Malcolm Butler's interception at the goal line. However, super Bowl MVP Tom Brady threw four touchdown passes that. Grant caught one of those in the second quarter. Can you name any of the other three of the New England touchdown scorers, any of the others? Uh, one point

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 13:52

Yes.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 13:56

I know who Josh

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 13:56

Yeah. You, you,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 13:57

and it's the one I'm going to as well,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 13:59

uh, fine. I can't remember. I'll try and find another one. There's a bit of inside,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 14:04

I did, hope we didn't make this too

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 14:05

no inside joke on that one. Just the one of my favorite ever fantasy players. I just draft him every year, even though he wasn't that good.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 14:11

uh, there you go. Okay. In the last decade, two divisions in the A FC have not sent a team to the Super Bowl, and one in the NFC has not produced a conference champion either. Can you name them? There's a point for each. So three points up for graphs. I'll

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 14:31

can you repeat that?

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 14:32

on that. Yep. So essentially, um, I need the two divisions where the A FC have not had a Super Bowl representative and the one NFC division where the Super Bowl has not had a representative and that's going back to the last 10 years. This

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 14:51

Oh God.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 14:51

write, write that down as well.'cause you can probably think about that throughout. There'll be some more quick fire ones, but I'll let you think for a little bit on that. And obviously you've got great podcasting editing skills if we need

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 15:02

Yeah. Yeah. No, it's all good. Good question.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 15:12

Hmm.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 15:14

and these, this is why it took a long time to do,'cause I didn't nick questions from a quiz. I actually created it myself. You see? So

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 15:20

Custom.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 15:21

there,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 15:22

I am.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 15:22

one question I did steal'cause it was good actually, but. Okay. I'm gonna move on to the next one. Just write that one down so you can think throughout. If you needed some extra time, we can uh, we can do it

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 15:32

can't,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 15:33

rounds.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 15:34

really gonna bug me. Move on. Move on.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 15:36

Yeah. In the last 10 years, there was one defensive Super Bowl MVP. Who was it? The last 10 years, there was only one Super Bowl defensive. MVP. Who was it? And remember, a is available at any time individually for one point answers, 20 questions total. Most of'em are one point answers, but we've got maybe another four that are not

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 16:14

Okie got that.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 16:16

in Super Bowl 57. The Chief Speedy Eagles in a high scoring affair. One of the biggest plays in the Chief's comeback win included the longest punt return in Super Bowl history of 65 yards. Although he didn't score, Mahomes was set up for an important touchdown named the chief's wide receivers that made that play in Super Bowl 57. The Chief's be the Eagles, the longest punt return in Super Bowl history, yards. Sets up my homes named the chief's wide receiver who returned the ball one point and clues are available individually if needed.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 16:58

You really wanna see? He's a clue, don't you?

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 17:00

nailed it, mate.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 17:01

Have you got it?

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 17:02

Yeah. Fucking right

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 17:03

Uh, I got between two people. I can't remember who it was.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 17:08

I could be wrong. Probably wrong.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 17:11

Josh, do you need it or are you

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 17:12

I'm gonna, I'm gonna hold it. Yeah.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 17:14

Yeah. Don't, don't bottle it.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 17:17

The Patriots beat the Rams in the lowest scoring Super Bowl of all time in Atlanta in 2019. Gronk caught a vital diving catch in the fourth quarter, and Julian Edelman was MVP, but who scored the games only touchdown. That will complete the round

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 17:43

Oh,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 17:43

and teams

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 17:46

that.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 17:46

Got it. I think

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 17:49

fuck.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 17:52

maybe, actually, I'm not sure.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 17:56

Mm. Uh, let's go down that route.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 18:03

clue. Available

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 18:03

Mm.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 18:04

anyone that needs it. Last chance on

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 18:06

Now I think I'm gonna need my clues for later rounds.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 18:09

Okay.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 18:11

Um,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 18:11

Is it alu per roundly? What's the clue?

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 18:14

No. No, because that'll take too long. So essentially you now have 15 questions left. Let me just count how many questions are only one point. So that will give you a chance. One, two,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 18:24

Oh, don't, yeah. No. The one I wanted was a, was the division one anyway, so I sort it Can't believe I can't get that one.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 18:34

that.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 18:34

I think you've got nine, nine questions available to use a

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 18:37

Okay. Oh wait, I'll save it.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 18:39

So the, that division one, so I got the question right, is, so first is a FC two divisions that haven't had a Super Bowl participant in the last 10 years.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 18:47

yeah.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 18:47

the same for the NFC South, but one division.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 18:50

one in the

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 18:51

Yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 18:51

haven't

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 18:52

Got you.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 18:52

Uh, but two in the A FC haven't

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 18:55

Hmm.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 18:57

and that's in the last 10 years. But that's not to say that 11 years ago

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 19:01

Yeah,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 19:01

both

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 19:02

yeah,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 19:02

you know what I mean?

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 19:02

yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 19:03

we're just going from the last 10 years.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 19:07

Hmm. Uh,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 19:17

Okay, we will move on to round two. This is cities and venues, cities and venues. Name the city that has held the most Northernly Super Bowl.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 19:33

ever.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 19:34

Name, yes, ever. Of all, all of this is all, all time. Name. The city that has held the most Northernly Super Bowl

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 19:48

Hmm.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 19:54

Okay. Okay.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 19:56

Clues available if needed. Uh, where was the last Seahawks? Patriots Super Bowl.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 20:13

Done my research on that one.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 20:14

Yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 20:16

There you go. Which city held the first ever Super Bowl? Super Bowl one was played in which

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 20:24

Ah, Jesus.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 20:28

That's a good one.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 20:29

See son of a gum. No, can't be that.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 20:42

Next question. This is a multiple point answer, so there's lots of points up for grabs here. Listen carefully to this one. So the Super Bowl has been held in 19 cities and over 25 stadiums, eight cities. Have held the game in multiple stadiums over the years. Note this would be a physically different arena, not the stadium with different naming rights, half a point for each

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 21:13

Fuck.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 21:14

So we're naming eight cities here,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 21:17

that have held the

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 21:18

twice

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 21:18

in the,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 21:19

more than two.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 21:20

not, no, not twice. Mul Cities have held the game like 10 times. But

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 21:24

Yeah,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 21:25

the question is of how does, how the game in different stadiums in the same city, at least one stadium in the same city?

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 21:44

but

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 21:44

essentially,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 21:45

they can't, so they can be different stadiums in the same city.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 21:48

I mean, I'll just repeat the

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 21:49

Yeah, you

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 21:50

That's the whole point.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 21:51

Bowl, the Super Bowl has been held in 19 cities and over 25 stadiums, which eight cities have held the game. In multiple stadiums within the same city over the years.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 22:04

All right.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 22:05

So a physically different

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 22:07

you.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 22:07

but in the same

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 22:08

Got you.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 22:08

There's eight of the 19 metro areas or, or cities, um, that have held

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 22:17

Set. This is not a clue that I'm asking for

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 22:20

Yeah. You can't have

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 22:22

clar. Oh no, I can't Clarifi clarification. Kind of.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 22:25

Cities.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 22:26

Yeah. See, but they, so, so, okay. No, don't worry. I think, I think, I think I've got most of them.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 22:36

What,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 22:36

Yeah.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 22:39

Hmm. Chuck along, I'll just, I'll just keep writing.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 22:43

One of them, one, one of them's had free, I think,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 22:47

Oh, yeah.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 22:48

which is cool.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 22:49

couple. Yeah.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 22:50

Clever boy over there.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 22:56

Okay. And then the last question is, which state, which state has held the big game the most times? Which state has held the big game the most times? Probably quite clearly one of, or maybe one of three, but I forgot two.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 23:24

Hmm.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 23:28

I've got a good clue for that one if you need it.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 23:31

It is between two as I, I, I, I'm gonna wait for my clue. I think I'd be annoyed if I know the rest, but I doubt it. Excuse me.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 23:42

Any repeats from that round?

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 23:44

Uh, no.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 23:48

Um, what was the

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 23:53

Uh, hold on.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 23:55

Where's the first Super Bowl? Hold, so that one?

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 23:57

Yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 23:58

Correct. So that's half a point on that eight, uh, city ones, by the way. So four points total

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 24:16

That's a good one.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 24:18

are we good for the next round?

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 24:19

Yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 24:21

Okay. Red skins. What was the common denominator for both? I'm sorry? What was the unique common denominator for both of the skins Super Bowl winning seasons in the 1980s.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 24:58

Uh oh yeah. No. Yeah. Cool.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 25:09

I am gonna guess something here.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 25:11

Okay, still a record to this day. The Redskins scored an incredible 35 points in the second quarter of their Super Bowl victory against the Broncos in 1988, who scored the first touchdown to start the frenzy?

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 25:32

It's just unfair on James. He hasn't heard the intro to the show today, where you'll hear that commentary, I think. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that's the first one that I got there.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 25:49

Oh.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 25:50

I didn't realize, Josh, you're under the pressure already with the timing of this podcast editing, aren't you?

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 25:54

Sorry.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 25:55

You're under, you're under very

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 25:57

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It, it has to go out. It has to go. There won't be too many, um, fancy clips.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 26:03

No, no, for sure.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 26:05

Some pre edits have been done.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 26:07

Okay, so for this question, um, it's still only worth one point. So five players have played in all three of Gibb's championship teams winning teams. I need two of them for one point. No half points required. Five players have played in all of. The free Gibbs championship winning teams. I need two of them for one point.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 26:38

We can only guess too. Right?

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 26:40

Yes. You can't, right? Five. You need two out the five. one of those was wrong, you then you wouldn't get any, any,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 26:47

uh, this is, sorry. This is one point total.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 26:52

point total.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 26:53

Uh

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 26:54

two of the five

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 26:55

hmm. Oh,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 27:10

you need a clue. I probably only have four

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 27:13

All right.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 27:14

later.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 27:15

I've def, I think I've got one and then I've got the surname for one. I can't remember his first name, do

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 27:19

Get it down there. Okay.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 27:20

I'm going, I'm, yeah, I'm gonna start saving this clue too long, I think.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 27:25

Yeah. Uh, and then the next question is similar, but I need all of the a, all of the teams here for the one point. Can you name the free NFC Championship Opponents Washington defeated on the way to Super Bowl Glory.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 27:42

fuck

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 27:42

Uh.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 27:46

right? I'm messaging you gimme a clearly message me, bastard.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 27:51

This is a

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 27:51

Is it, or is it multiple? Is it.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 27:53

Well, there's free answers, isn't there? So

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 27:55

Right. Yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 27:56

can give you a cl I can

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 27:57

Uh, fucking terms, conditions.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 27:59

no, I'll give you a clue on one of them.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 28:03

Do I have to get'em in order?

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 28:06

No, no.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 28:06

Okay. Okay, fine.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 28:07

this probably isn't a good use of my clue if you can,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 28:10

you're both running out basically.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 28:13

but that,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 28:13

there's multiple

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 28:14

but, but

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 28:15

last

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 28:15

if you're only gonna gimme a clue for one of the teams, that won't help me get a full point, so I'll just, um,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 28:21

why I was trying

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 28:21

all right. Okay. All right.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 28:23

did.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 28:24

Yeah,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 28:24

worry about it.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 28:25

Okay,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 28:26

can't think I'm good.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 28:29

Joe Gibbs is still the only head coach in NFL history to win three Super Bowls with different callbacks. Can you name the quarterback of the free that did not win the MVP?

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 28:42

Hmm.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 28:47

Um, I'll, I'll take the clue to make sure.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 28:51

Okay, thank you.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 28:52

'cause I think, I think I know, but. I might as well use it now to make sure it's between two. Actually, I'm not a hundred percent sure.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 29:03

I know, I know one that definitely did, so I'm just gonna pick between the other two.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 29:24

Okay. It's coming your way, Josh.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 29:28

Slow these new iPhones, aren't they?

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 29:31

Well, I had some clea ready to go. That's why I was trying

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 29:34

Trying to figure out.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 29:35

Heather. Okay.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 29:41

Oh,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 29:41

That's

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 29:42

okay. Nice. Yeah. Nice.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 29:43

to

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 29:44

Thank you. Thank you.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 29:45

Okay. Any repeats needed for that? Rounds?

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 29:49

Uh.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 29:50

actually, what was the second one?'cause all I've written down is clue, but I've not written anything

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 29:55

Okay.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 29:55

case I needed a clue.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 29:57

That is the first touchdown scorer in the second quarter

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 30:02

I'm gonna need to

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 30:02

against.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 30:03

me on that one.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 30:04

Okay. Sounds good. Perfect. Okay, so that gets us to the final

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 30:23

Uh, that's, that's, that's no help.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 30:30

Okay. Do you need any of the other questions repeated, because I actually have to check something very, very

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 30:37

Nah, that's all right.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 30:38

Okay. The, okay. Entertainment and other is the last round here. One point answer, multiple choice here.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 30:49

Nice.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 30:49

The average ticket price for Super Bowl one between the Packers and the chiefs adjusted for. Adjusted for inflation was$115,$815 or eight or five$85. The average ticket price for Super Bowl I, between the Packers and the chiefs adjusted for inflation was a hundred and fifteen, eight fifteen or 5 85.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 31:20

Blow me thought James is gonna go where? Where was that one held? Just

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 31:34

Yeah, that'd been

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 31:35

Yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 31:35

been

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 31:35

Oh yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 31:36

That'd have been perfect.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 31:37

it's expensive that.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 31:38

got, you might have got you might have got me. Um, okay, so no cheating on this one. So I've just, I've just checked my phone here. So this is up to date. What is the current cheapest ticket? To the Super Bowl on the platform. Tick pick, which includes fees. Is it$2,250? Is it$3,485 or is it$5,210? That is the day before the game getting price currently.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 32:27

Okay.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 32:29

And then who headlined the halftime entertainment for the last Pat's Seahawks Super Bowl in 2015?

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 32:39

Hmm,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 32:39

Who headlined the halftime entertainment for the Pat's Seahawks last Super Bowl encounter in 2015?

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 32:47

2015.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 32:48

I've been interested to see what your clue was for this one.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 32:50

Yeah,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 32:50

fucking wasted it,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 32:52

I.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 32:55

2015

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 33:00

I don't really.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 33:03

Okay, next question. As we're podding, I'll keep get through these. A. A beer, soft drinks and fast food company. Make up the top three when it comes to most purchased Super Bowl ads of all time. Can you name them all correctly for one point a beer, soft drinks, and fast food company. Make up the top three

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 33:26

Okay.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 33:27

to most Super Bowl purchase ads of all times. I need them all for just the

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 33:32

Yeah. Must be

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 33:34

fast food. Was it the last one?

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 33:36

be.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 33:37

Yeah.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 33:44

I don't You were confident a James.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 33:48

Yeah. I, I feel pretty confident about that one.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 33:50

I called on two of them. I, I'm not confident on one.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 33:55

All right. Super Bowl is the second largest day for food consumption in the United States with Thanksgiving only being greater according to official data released by the National Chicken Council

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 34:12

The fame, the famous NCC.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 34:14

Yeah. million pound measurement estimates. Approximately what number of individual wings are consumed throughout the country? Is it a million? Is it B 891 million or is it C 1.2 billion?

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 34:39

Now?

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 34:41

I'm just putting the answer I want it to be.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 34:42

Yeah, I think I'm matching you up.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 34:45

a world where there's 1.2

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 34:47

Yeah, yeah,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 34:48

on one single

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 34:48

I hope so.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 34:51

Love it. Okay. Now this is a bonus question and this is the big one.'cause it's available for six

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 34:58

cool.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 34:59

You get two points for the correct answer and then you get one bonus point for each of the four components of the second part of the question. Which quarterback has made it to the Super Bowl with four different head coaches? The only QB to ever do so, and you'll get one point per coach as well. Six point available.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 35:28

which quarterbacks made its Super Bowl four times with different coaches.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 35:33

It's, yeah, which, yeah, exactly. Which,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 35:35

Jesus.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 35:35

has made it to two, to the Super Bowl with four different head cages. The question doesn't say he's only been to four, but that's the welling the question. Which quarterback has made it to the Super Bowl with four different head coaches? The only player to ever do so,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 35:52

Good. Good, good, good question.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 35:55

and you get a bonus point for each of the coaches

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 36:00

Hmm.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 36:00

a total of 31 maximum points.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 36:05

Hmm.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 36:09

I will do a quick shout out if any questions need repeated, and then we will, we'll go into the answers.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 36:16

How, how many cities in, in round two, you had the cities of how many there was that, um, have had different stadium? How many cities?

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 36:26

Uh yep. So the answer was eight cities and

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 36:29

Uh,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 36:29

half a half a point for

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 36:31

I guess one,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 36:32

how many have I got?

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 36:33

I've got seven.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 36:34

Uh, how many have I got for that? I'll pick one more.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 36:45

If anyone is playing along listening, then we will be going through the answers consecutively.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 36:53

I suddenly just can't think of any teams or any fucking cities.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 37:00

Get your key map out.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 37:01

Uh, all right. It's what it's.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 37:06

let's go free. And then, um, if you need me to skip over and answer one of them to the end, we could do that. If you're still thinking, I guess

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 37:16

Hmm.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 37:17

just'cause we had to rush it a little bit, but are you, are you guys good?

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 37:20

I am good for now.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 37:22

Okay, let's get to question one. Do you have any of the other free touchdown scorers for. The Patriots outside of Gronk in that Super Bowl.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 37:36

I have,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 37:37

it out.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 37:37

I have my guy Julian Edelman.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 37:40

Edelman.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 37:41

That's all I've got. I, I couldn't think of any of the others.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 37:44

Uh, the other ones are Lafa and Danny Amandola.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 37:50

Oh, nice.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 37:51

yeah.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 37:53

So that's a, that's a point. Yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 37:55

yeah. Yeah. You just needed one for one point. Yeah. There's only one available. And then for the next one, we need the one NSC division. Any guesses there for no Super Bowl representatives? No, there plenty. Actually, Tampa

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 38:12

yeah. Fuck me.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 38:13

made

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 38:14

North

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 38:15

North is correct. The last team was the Packers

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 38:18

yeah.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 38:19

Tampa won it mate.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 38:22

yeah, they did.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 38:23

and then. In fact, the Saints would've actually completed most of the dway there. But they got that hose on that call, didn't they? And it's around. Um, how about the, A FC

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 38:35

Definitely the south on this one.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 38:37

Yeah,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 38:38

South is one point, uh, indie with the last team to make it with the South back in

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 38:43

I'm not convinced there is another one.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 38:45

I think you're wrong.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 38:46

I, I was going,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 38:48

As in Lee,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 38:49

Yeah, I was going with the north, but they, they had someone recently and it can't be

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 38:56

I put North, but I think it's,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 38:59

It can't be west'cause of chiefs.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 39:03

yeah, Bengals baby,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 39:06

I think he's, I think he's fucked

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 39:07

his face.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 39:09

oh, no, the Bengals did. The Bengals were there.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 39:12

Oh, nice.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 39:14

Okay.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 39:15

it anyway.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 39:17

Yeah, that's that's interesting Baltimore was the last team that it came up on my research. That must be incorrect. Anyway. Okay. One point each. That'd be much easier to have one in each division. did you

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 39:35

I didn't, I didn't get both though, did I? I only got the FC one.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 39:39

Did you put, okay, so you got the South right? For

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 39:42

Yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 39:43

the last team there, um, than Packers in the north. Okay, cool. Did you get the MVP for the last 10

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 39:48

Yes. Mr. Vaughn Miller

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 39:52

Perhaps the Washington

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 39:54

hell

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 39:55

Did you get Aaron?

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 39:56

yeah. I guess. Aaron. Donald? Yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 39:57

Yeah. That, that would've actually been my guess. I just can't remember Vaughn Middle winning yet. That would've obviously

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 40:02

was when he killed. Yeah. Was when he killed Cam Newton?

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 40:04

Oh yeah. Nice. Well done.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 40:07

And then the Super Bowl 57 punt returner for the Chiefs for that long punt return

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 40:15

Do you know it, James?

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 40:16

Uh, I think so. Micko Hardman.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 40:20

incorrect.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 40:22

Cade Caius, Tony.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 40:24

Correct.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 40:25

what, okay, now

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 40:28

That was the two I was going between. I thought I'm gonna go for a bit of a gamble on Tony.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 40:32

was this? Sorry. Oh, it was only like

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 40:34

Three years ago.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 40:35

years ago. Oh, yeah.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 40:36

Yeah.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 40:37

Hmm.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 40:39

that was, that was, exactly. 2023, wasn't it? then, does anyone have the touchdown, the only touchdown scorer the Pat Ram Super Bowl?

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 40:53

No, I, I don't think he even played for them at this point, but I'm just gonna go like La Garrett Blo or something.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 41:00

Incorrect but good guess,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 41:02

I also know it's a running back, but I think I've got it wrong. I guess James White, but he's the guy in the Atlanta one, wasn't he?

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 41:10

good effort. I didn't know if I'd got this. It was Sony Michelle.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 41:13

it? Was it

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 41:15

Yeah.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 41:15

how long ago?

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 41:17

2019. That makes sense. Yeah.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 41:19

Yeah. Nice.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 41:21

Yeah.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 41:22

Two good, two good guesses. I think

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 41:25

Yeah,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 41:25

an annoying running backs.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 41:26

running back in that game, but,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 41:28

So what have I got four there? No. Do I get one point for the divisions?

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 41:32

Uh, you'll get

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 41:33

No, two. Okay, cool. Four, four for round one then.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 41:37

Yeah. good,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 41:39

I got three.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 41:40

Nice tight. Neck and neck.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 41:43

and cities and venues. Do you have the most Northernly Super Bowl?

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 41:48

I, I was going to, gonna ask for a clue, but then I was like, it's between two for me so I've gone Minneapolis.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 41:57

I went Green Bay.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 42:00

Uh, good answers. I didn't know if Green Bay's ever held one. I

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 42:03

I dunno,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 42:04

So, Minneapolis is, uh, is a

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 42:06

Oh wicked.'cause that old Detroit.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 42:10

on New York. New York, I guess, but.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 42:12

Yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 42:15

But yeah, Minneapolis, not far from the Canadian baller,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 42:19

Nice.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 42:19

correct answer. And the last, um, super Bowl, I think you both got this one, right? last Pat Seahawk Super Bowl.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 42:27

Arizona. Yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 42:32

The first ever Super Bowl was Howard in

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 42:36

Guess James

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 42:39

is it? Is it just Washington?

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 42:41

la

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 42:42

Uh.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 42:43

Yeah, correct.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 42:46

co.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 42:46

I thought it was the Yeah, it was, it was the, um,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 42:49

Nice.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 42:49

Yeah, it was the Coliseum. And then here comes the, the eight cities in 25, um, 20, sorry, eight cities that held it within two different stadiums. Do you want me to just read them out or do you wanna get Josh,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 43:08

We can go one for one. Let's go one for one. Oh, guess one. James has one. LA.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 43:14

Correct. The most

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 43:14

I also had la um, just thought of one, um, San Fran.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 43:22

No,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 43:23

Miami

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 43:25

Miami is correct. They

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 43:27

Rose Bowl

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 43:28

it in an, in an older setting.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 43:30

or whatever it was,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 43:32

Dallas,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 43:34

No,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 43:36

uh, Atlanta.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 43:40

no.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 43:40

Uh,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 43:42

Minnesota.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 43:44

Correct. It was the old metro

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 43:48

nice.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 43:49

and the new Viking stadium as well.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 43:54

Uh,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 43:55

There's another similar one to that,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 43:56

new Orleans.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 43:58

that's actually correct.'cause they, Tulane held a Super Bowl.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 44:02

Oh, did they? Oh, I didn't know that.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 44:05

Yeah.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 44:05

Huh? That was my, that was my wild card. Guess one at the end.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 44:08

Yeah, that's four.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 44:10

got two more on my list and I don't think they're right. One is Houston.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 44:14

Houston is

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 44:15

Yeah,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 44:16

it. Now

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 44:16

Bowl held at at Rice

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 44:19

why? Nice.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 44:22

and

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 44:22

you bastard. What's your other one? You probably get it right as well.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 44:24

I've got one more guest, Chicago.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 44:27

No,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 44:28

I have three more written down.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 44:30

go. Correct. There was a Super Bowl held at the stadium previous to the Raymond James Stadium,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 44:38

am assuming Arizona.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 44:41

correct. Sun Devil Stadium. The college stadium

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 44:44

Nice.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 44:44

a Super

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 44:45

1, 2, 3, 4. I also guess New York, but I think that's wrong.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 44:50

That's

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 44:50

Yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 44:51

Uh, the last New York Super Bowl was the first Super Bowl, uh, Detroit.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 44:55

Uh, nice.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 44:56

The old silver

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 44:58

Three, four.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 44:58

Super Bowl and Ford Field held one as well.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 45:01

So it is half a point for each.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 45:03

Half a point for each.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 45:04

It's two and a half.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 45:05

Hang on. So I, I think I've got the first Super Bowl one, right? Did you say? Say it was New York.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 45:09

No.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 45:10

No,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 45:10

Oh, that's why I wrote down.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 45:11

Angeles first.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 45:12

Oh. Have you already done that?

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 45:13

Yeah.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 45:14

Oh, fucking now

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 45:15

Last one.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 45:16

place.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 45:17

So I've got La, Miami, new Orleans. No. Yeah. La, Miami, new Orleans. Tampa and Arizona. Uh, Phoenix, Arizona.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 45:25

I got four la, Miami, Minnesota, Houston,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 45:29

Oh, we've got different ones as well then. That's good.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 45:31

that's a good effort. And then the state that's held the most Sea four games,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 45:37

I put California

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 45:38

I also put California.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 45:41

it's

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 45:41

Oh, fucking hell

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 45:42

with Miami and Tampa. Jacksonville also held

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 45:45

Did it?

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 45:46

held Miami's. Yeah. Jacksonville held the Eagles versus the Chiefs. And

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 45:52

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 45:53

held a bunch, and Miami's has the most of all time. So yeah, California was second, but Florida is the answer.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 46:01

Hmm.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 46:01

Bugger.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 46:02

have given a good

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 46:02

1, 2, 3, 5. Uh, okay.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 46:06

it was between two states so I could have,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 46:08

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5 and a half.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 46:12

Nice.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 46:14

Better get these right

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 46:16

Here we go. Skins, uh, the unique common denominator for both of the Super Bowl winning seasons in the eighties?

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 46:25

I put comeback wins.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 46:28

No,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 46:28

strikes.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 46:31

both seasons were shortened. Strikes years.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 46:35

Solidarity.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 46:41

All right. And then the record to this day is the Washington Redskins 35 points in the second quarter against the Broncos in 88. Who scored the first touchdown? Josh?

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 46:55

I hope for the sake of this intro that it is Ricky Sanders.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 46:59

Correct. Ricky Sanders?

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 47:01

I just went with Art Monk.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 47:03

Don't actually, weirdly, I don't think Monk actually caught one. He did. I don't think he did in the second quarter. Maybe he did in the second half, but, all right, then the five players, I need two of the five on this.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 47:17

Um, I'll just put Monk again. Uh, and Clark, I think it's uh, is it Gary Clark

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 47:25

Uh, none. Neither of those are correct.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 47:27

Wanker.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 47:28

That's unlucky. Uh,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 47:30

Yeah,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 47:31

Joe Jacoby

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 47:33

correct.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 47:34

and I, I, I can't, I'm really annoyed. I can't remember the name of the center. Um, so I didn't put him down, but I guess Darryl Green,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 47:43

Incorrect. So, Jeff

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 47:49

oh. That's the center, isn't it?

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 47:52

Ross Grim and to the look backs. Don Warren.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 47:58

Tony Warren.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 48:00

Yeah.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 48:01

points there? No

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 48:02

No points.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 48:04

guys.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 48:04

I,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 48:04

the,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 48:04

I was hoping for a kicker question, if I'm being honest.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 48:07

Oh yeah.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 48:08

to bring up Mark Mosley. I was trying to guess what questions would come up.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 48:14

Would've been a good one too far. But Sorry, James.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 48:17

I guess green just missed the first Super

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 48:20

Yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 48:21

Um, I think he got drafted that year. And then, so his first Super Bowl would've been the loss to the

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 48:26

Yeah. Nice.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 48:27

believe,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 48:28

I didn't think he was, he was right. But I was annoyed that I didn't get one of the other linemen. Good question.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 48:33

yeah. Don Warren played from the seventies through the nineties. Incredible. There you go.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 48:40

I remain pointless in this one in more ways than one.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 48:44

fan you are. Some fan you are. although we haven't had a Super Bowl for a

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 48:49

Yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 48:49

have we? Okay.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 48:51

Maybe in your time, in your time, Lee. But you know,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 48:54

I had one in my time and Josh's time. Just about. All right. NFC Championship, the opponents when we won the Super Bowl. Do we have them? Josh

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 49:05

I think I've got'em in order as well.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 49:07

go

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 49:08

Alright. Cowboys, vikings, lions.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 49:10

correct. One point.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 49:12

uh, out of those I got Dallas.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 49:15

Okay. No points.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 49:19

Harsh but fair.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 49:22

Last chance. Last chance to get a point in this round?

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 49:25

Yeah. Out of all the quarterbacks, one of them didn't win so we had Fasman Williams and riff, obviously. Which one didn't win? MVV.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 49:38

Uh, I'd gone Hyman because I know Ian did, but I wasn't sure. So I went between him and Doug.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 49:45

Correct.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 49:46

Yes. Point

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 49:47

the point. You salvaged the point.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 49:50

Rigo, right?

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 49:51

Yeah. Rigo won it, which was a good look. Back to last episode when Josh gave us some Riggins

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 49:59

yes.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 49:59

from that Super Bowl. Williams obviously went off. Timmy Smith might have been a shout for

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 50:05

Hmm.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 50:06

Doug went into all the

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 50:07

Three. You said in the lead in three different Super Bowls. Straight. Three different quarterbacks for three different Super Bowl,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 50:13

I.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 50:14

and also none of them Hall of Famers, which is another mad thing for Gibbs.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 50:18

a great question in a quiz for non washing

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 50:21

Yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 50:21

I think that's still a tough one to get. Uh, that completes the washing

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 50:30

It is not the right questions. Are they,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 50:33

Well, you got a point now you got a point.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 50:35

Four.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 50:36

Uh, entertainment. Another okay with, uh, adjustment for inflation. 1 15, 8 15, 5 85 for Super Bowl one ticket. What are you

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 50:50

uh, still went one 15?

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 50:52

I went 5, 8, 5. No idea.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 50:54

One 15,$12 tickets. There was over 20,000 empty seats for the game. Notably,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 51:02

Hmm.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 51:04

the only other Super Bowl not to be sold out, I believe was the COVID

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 51:08

Hmm.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 51:08

in Tampa. Technically all ticketed, but not a full stadium, of course. Okay, and then

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 51:15

Fing.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 51:16

the live pricing for the Super Bowl tomorrow. Uh, the get price, so the cheapest ticket, was it two thousand two hundred fifty three thousand four hundred thirty five or$5,210.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 51:34

I went the highest 5,000, whatever it was.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 51:37

I went 3, 4, 8, 5.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 51:40

Josh is

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 51:40

Oh, nice.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 51:41

the getting price for tomorrow currently. And who headlined the entertainment for the Pat Seahawks last Super Bowl encounter?

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 51:51

Oh, I didn't get

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 51:52

Do you know Eric James?

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 51:53

No, I was just gonna, it's

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 51:55

I've,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 51:56

I was just gonna put like Beyonce or something, but I think it was like someone more like

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 51:59

uh,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 52:00

poppy.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 52:01

yeah. Yeah. I got Lady Gaga'cause I know it's some, she did it somewhere in the 2000. Whatevers

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 52:06

I, I was gonna say Avril Levine, but that's a bit late for her, isn't it?

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 52:09

Yeah.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 52:10

Skate Boy

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 52:12

I would've weirdly got this one because I remember it. For

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 52:14

Oh, I fucking know who it is now. Go on

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 52:16

go on. You

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 52:18

Kate Perry.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 52:20

is it.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 52:20

up your street. I fucking, yeah.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 52:24

Oh dear. Not a good round for me. This. Katie Perry.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 52:29

a comeback

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 52:30

Yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 52:32

Okay. Then the, so we had the beer, soft drinks and fast. Food company, the make the top three most purchase you bought out of all time

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 52:42

McDonald's, bud Pepsi. I,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 52:45

Oh, bud. Pepsi Burger King.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 52:48

James.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 52:49

Ah,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 52:50

One point. One point. No points.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 52:52

yeah.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 52:53

I get

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 52:53

Oh man.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 52:55

No, one

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 52:55

Uh.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 52:56

Just like Burger King. More so I went for it.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 53:02

Chicken Royal.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 53:02

Pepsi. Pepsi is more of the NFL,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 53:05

Yeah,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 53:05

isn't

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 53:06

yeah,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 53:06

and Pepsi. I was like, definitely a hundred percent.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 53:10

yeah, I know cores have been big in more recent years, but over the years it had to, but I feel, all right then. Yeah. So the Chicken Council estimates of, of Wings, I think you're both correct on this. I

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 53:25

Yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 53:26

the United States will be consuming 1.2 billion chicken

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 53:31

Nice.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 53:33

which averages out, you know. What, four wings, a person, something like that.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 53:38

Pretty impressive.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 53:39

sense.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 53:40

Will you be having any wings there?

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 53:42

won't you, Lee?

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 53:44

I believe there'll be wings Samari, correct This question then, did anyone get a quarterback of what the guess is

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 53:53

Yeah,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 53:54

I, think I did.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 53:56

James?

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 53:57

Um, I know it had been someone a while ago because there's no one recent, so I've gone Elway, I just went with a big name who's not recent.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 54:05

I'm lucky.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 54:05

good, good effort.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 54:07

That was my first instinct.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 54:08

it right. Wicked.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 54:09

Yeah. No, it is incorrect. Not right.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 54:13

What?

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 54:14

Josh. Josh Looks like Josh

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 54:15

Paint a man.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 54:17

It is

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 54:17

Ah,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 54:19

Two points to Josh. wanna have

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 54:22

I got two. I got two. I got Dungy

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 54:26

Yeah.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 54:26

Kubiak.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 54:29

Nice. So you got the first and the

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 54:30

Yeah, no idea. In the middle. I probably know them.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 54:33

the,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 54:33

yeah. No points then. No points. And that's the real quiz.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 54:36

I'm a, it's four points there for Josh in the middle was Jim Coldwell and John Fox

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 54:43

oh. Yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 54:43

for

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 54:44

I remember him.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 54:46

um, 16 Broncos. I guess.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 54:49

John Fox.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 54:50

Yeah, I remember him.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 54:51

Did he, was he at

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 54:53

Yeah. Yeah. Carolina

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 54:55

really,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 54:56

for ages.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 54:57

I guess what was Peyton then? Two and two.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 55:00

Yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 55:01

Two and two. Yeah.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 55:03

Four different, that's interesting. Yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 55:05

Crazy that he went to two Super Bowls, like relatively recently.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 55:10

Yeah. Uh, nice. That was excellent, Lee. Excellent work.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 55:15

Well

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 55:15

Yeah,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 55:16

How many was it? Out of?

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 55:17

well it's out of 30, so it would've been perfect if I didn't bungle with the Bengals but out. Yeah. Outside that say

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 55:24

Fuck.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 55:25

I'm annoyed, I'm annoyed with myself for that. Um, 30 points maximum.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 55:28

I, this doesn't look good. The, the one where we had to guess like eight cities or whatever was that point for each, ah,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 55:35

no, it's

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 55:36

you serious?

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 55:36

a

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 55:36

Half a point for each.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 55:38

then. This is very, very bad.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 55:39

Have you, have you cracked double figures, James?

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 55:42

Uh, might not have now

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 55:44

Oh,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 55:45

one. Oh, dear, dear, oh, dear.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 55:54

I was getting tired in ai, clearly. Let me down on that one.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 55:57

I've got double digits 11.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 56:01

gotta have this. That's not, not, not a disgraceful effort.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 56:05

19 and a half.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 56:07

19 and a half.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 56:08

I'm annoyed about a couple, but also very, a very good, good levelly, well pitched quiz, I would say.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 56:14

you what Josh, let's get together tomorrow.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 56:17

Yeah.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 56:18

We'll throw a cat over a pub

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 56:19

Yeah,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 56:19

you can throw it. Fair.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 56:21

we could do that.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 56:21

that's the real winner.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 56:22

Saffron Walden's a good place for that sort of high jinx

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 56:25

What time are you, uh, getting to Seth and Walden?

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 56:27

2:00 PM GMT.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 56:30

food pubs in the afternoon

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 56:31

Yeah, there's a

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 56:32

Awesome.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 56:34

or there's a football game. There's all sorts going on, so

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 56:36

Bit rugged, isn't there?

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 56:37

make a day of it's today actually.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 56:39

Okay,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 56:40

Yeah. Nice. Well,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 56:42

Lee.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 56:43

thank you. I hope some people played along at home, or at least to the Washington portion. Probably all of it, to be fair.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 56:50

feel free to steal and share

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 56:52

I actually forgot that we were kind of podcasting there. It felt like we were doing like a COVID

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 56:56

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Friday, like happy, whatever it was called, that quiz thing. Yeah. Nice.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 57:02

Any last pluses on the games boys, before we

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 57:05

A hundred percent.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 57:05

go to enjoy our

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 57:07

Yeah, James has done loads of loads of profit in you. James,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 57:09

loads of

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 57:09

go on. You got two seconds, 10 seconds.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 57:12

what was I gonna bring up? Couple of things. I've changed my mind on this. I am going with the Patriots to find a way

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 57:23

Oh God.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 57:23

to win this one. around in games, um, I think. If they can capitalize on any mistakes the Seahawks makes, I think they'll win. Um, I think they'll need one or two explosive plays. I think they've kept Henderson wraps in recent games. They've been kind of weird game scripts and in snow, so they've leaned on Stevenson. I think we could see a couple of big runs from Henderson in this. I think they're gonna need of that today, uh, to nullify, uh, the Seahawks. Um, but yeah, things have just been going their way. They're well coached and I just think they're going to through this one, perhaps. Um, I'm gonna go 2017 to the New England Patriots.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 58:05

Blind me, I must admit, I've, I've come closer to a closer game, uh, as the week has gone on, uh, which you'll hear if, if people listen to the last bit of the show. Me and Brit having a chat on Thursday night, I said the same there. Um, but I still think the seals will win it. I think they're too good. Um

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 58:22

I, I, I think if it's a close game, I think the Sea Haws would be in trouble.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 58:26

hmm.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 58:26

I think Patriots have been in a lot of close games. They found a way to win. But if the Seahawks get way early, it's game over. Um, I would say,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 58:34

Yeah.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 58:34

mention the British defensive coordinator for the Seahawks, which we all kind of realized yesterday. I mean, I put a certain column out there. Um, pretty cool story he coached for the London Warriors. it mentioned in the column Colony used to go to, you know, there players with seven professional. One of those players was Mr. Vernon Kay

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 58:51

Are here.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 58:52

Strong Safety.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 58:53

Bloody hell

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 58:54

Um,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 58:55

it,

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 58:55

yeah,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 58:56

yeah. Yeah.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 58:57

Um, he was quoted in that Sports Illustrated, uh, article there as well. Um, but used to turn up to people's offices to like run free plays with him like during the week and stuff.'cause you know, they

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 59:06

Nice

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 59:06

as well. So, pretty cool story and, and people seem to think, you know, it's a matter of time till he gets a coach shop, so pretty cool.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 59:13

awesome. I agree with both of you guys. I think the game's gonna, I actually really think it's gonna be a sneaky good Super Bowl. There's a lot of buzz about the Pats this week and their defense isn't there. And Seattle haven't really faced a top. have they? And they're two wins if you think about it at all. So I think it could be quite a tight game and like deep into the fourth quarter, which after the last year's game for multiple reasons will be, will be a good watch. So I'm

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 59:39

Yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 59:39

for it. Last question for you guys. Do you have any one from either of the sides, um, fans with you guys in the group

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 59:47

wand.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 59:49

Oh, is it

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 59:49

Yes.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 59:50

unfortunately.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 59:51

fan?

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 59:51

Seahawks Bono. That's it. Just, just the one. Um,

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 59:54

That's always, that's always fun. I remember you telling me about the Miles, um, Lanter situation with our friend Dan Quinn and he was just at the end of the bar with his like head in

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 1:00:04

yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 1:00:05

for it to happen essentially. Yeah. Um, yeah, look, really looking forward to it now. So it should be a, should be a great day.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 1:00:13

Good. I hope, I hope you have a good time, Lee. We'll be sharing pictures and videos and all sorts and, and being in So

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 1:00:20

Hala. Losing free won

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 1:00:22

are they Nice. Just a live update of the EFL championship scores.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 1:00:27

are you, are you bringing the pig skin tomorrow?

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 1:00:29

I need to

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 1:00:29

it hasn't stopped raining for about 10 days in this

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 1:00:33

Mud bowl and we could play it in on the concrete. I'll bring it, I've gotta dig it out from under the bed and, and pump it. I've got a load of shit to do before, before, before

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 1:00:44

Yeah.

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 1:00:44

we arrive in Saffron Roll tomorrow.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 1:00:46

you know, do that then TRAs into this house in a

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 1:00:50

Yeah, true.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 1:00:51

dunno, might not be a good start,

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 1:00:52

Uh, it's not my credit card on. There'll be fine.

james_1_02-07-2026_150907 1:00:54

True.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 1:00:56

if anyone is still listening, enjoy the

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 1:00:58

Yeah. Yeah.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 1:00:58

So last time, we have

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 1:01:00

Yes.

ledders_1_02-07-2026_090906 1:01:01

a long time, so make a day of it. drink, and be merry. If you are in the UK and working Monday, don't worry about it. They'll understand. Make the

josh_1_02-07-2026_150908 1:01:08

Yeah, absolutely right. Thanks guys. Uh, we will close out this bit of the podcast with the Washington, uh, tribute to Sunny Jergenson, which I've clipped in here. Um, but enjoy the game, both of you obviously. I'll see you tomorrow, James. Chat to you soon, Lee. Until next time, hail.

1:01:28

​I looked on coming to the Redskins as a new start. An opportunity to start fresh again with a new organization and also coming with the Redskins was an opportunity to play for a team that I had grown up just seeing on television, you know, we, we, we had a good group of guys, good teammates. We fought hard. We didn't have the greatest record in the world. But the people enjoyed us. They backed us. They cheered for us because each and every week we went out and laid it on the wine and entertained them. Played as hard as we could. Sonny Jorgenson's Place in Washington's history is special. I haven't seen anyone who could handle a football in the manner that redhead could. Millions remember your voice as the soundtrack for this team's free Super Bowl. For 55 years with your many different talents, you have expired this team and generations of fame. Sunny, no single person has elevated, impacted, and loved the burgundy gold quite like you.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:02:56

Welcome to the final portion of today's show, and we have yet again, Brett Walker joining us from the Brett Chat Sports Podcast. Brett, we've seen a lot of each other in the last few weeks. We probably didn't expect this to be the case earlier in the season, um, but I'm very pleased for you that the Patriots obviously are in the Super Bowl, and it's nice to chat to you again.

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:03:15

No. Well, it's always good to chat to you, Josh, and yeah, I've, uh, I've said this out, swear, but I'll, I'll gladly say it again. This is a conversation that I did not think I was gonna be having at this stage of the season about the Patriots.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:03:29

No, and not many people predicted that, although actually earlier on in this podcast. Um, so just, just, uh, the, the Eagle eared listener might, might notice that I have a bit of a cold and they wouldn't have noticed that earlier in the show. That's'cause we've recorded this one on, uh, Thursday evening. So Brett and I are chatting now. It's Thursday evening UK time for the Super Bowl. Um, and the earliest segment of this show was on Saturday, James Lee and I. Um, I hope Brett, that you are kind of riding the wave and not looking ahead too much.

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:03:58

well, exactly. I think it's, um. You know, I said at the start of the season on this show, but, uh, I thought we were gonna be like nine and eight, something like that, because I, for me, you look at Mike Vrabel and his time at the Tysons, he, he turned that team into one that was, that was always in and around the playoffs. And so I thought, well, that's what's gonna happen with the Patriots. Now obviously we're a lot further along in that rebuild than I thought we were gonna be, but hopefully that that. That means that, you know, it's good times ahead. We've, we've already built this good base. We've got, you know, fantastic players, good solid veteran players like Spill and Landry on the defense. We're do, we're doing the same on the offensive line as well. We need to keep building that offensive line, as I said. On the, you know, the previous episodes when we chatted, you know, we need to, we still need to add to the offensive line. So if we can do that in the drafting in free agency, then hopefully we can have some, like, sustained success. But you, you never know what could happen. Like Drake may could get injured early on next season. And then, yeah, we're down to, uh, we're down to, uh, Tommy DeVito and, uh. And Josh and Josh Dobb. So you know, like we, we'll have to see, we'd have to see how things go.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:05:21

Yeah, it's, it's, that's a good approach to take, which is kind of a bit of excitement about what the future could hold. But as we know, NFL is designed to bring bad teams back around, and it's designed for parity more than, more than most. Sports across the globe, really. Um, ironically in terms of the US being the kind of champion of that in, in the NFL, um, the Patriots obviously buck to that trend for a long time being one of the, the kind of actual, um, dominant forces for a long time. Chiefs in recent years have done similarly, um, but you really never know what will happen year on year. So I'm, I'm glad you are enjoying it. Uh, before we talk about the game on Sunday, I did wanna discuss my appearance on your podcast as a guest host. Um, I very much enjoyed that. Thank you for the opportunity. Also, thank you for kind of giving me the, the steers with, with who was gonna be on and, and what to say. I must admit, when you sent me the document. Which was like a, a guide to um, kind of how the show would

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:06:19

Yeah.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:06:19

I thought the professionalism compared to my bullet point list that I send you when I get you on this podcast is miles ahead. So I do thank you for that, but I really enjoyed it. Um, I hope that shows how had some success and, and people have been listening'cause it was really good

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:06:32

Yeah, I mean, like, we're over, we've got over a hundred views on, uh, YouTube as, as it scans on Thursday evening. Uh, there's a, you know, there's been, we, I seem to do quite well on Apple podcasts as well, like, you know, because a lot of people have iPhones. And I've very deliberately made the show so that. Uh, you know, it doesn't have to be a biz pod. It'll work just as a, as a purely audio podcast. Like it, it does seem to, I do seem to get a good, a good deal of people listening on Apple Podcasts as well, so like, yeah. Hopefully between, you know, now on Thursday evening and Sunday on the Super Bowl, they'll, you know, we'll get some more people listening and watching to it.'cause Yeah, like, you know, I, you know, I do the podcast. You know, pretty much for myself, really, you know, I'm, I'm make, I'm making the podcast that I would want to watch or listen to, and if anyone else wants to watch or listen to it, fantastic. But yeah, I do, I do kind of really do just make it for myself because a lot of what I see, certainly on British TV in terms of sport coverage, it, it's not for me. Like, you know, there's, it's a lot of, there's a lot of banter. On UK sports coverage. And it, it's just really, it can be really dumb at times. And I just, I just wanna listen to experts telling me why a play works. You know, like what are the little nuances that I, I as a, as a fan of that sport, uh, should be watching out for. And instead you get. And I'm gonna say it instead, you get O making the same jokes week after week, and for some reason thinking he's a come genius and he's not. And. I'm gonna tread very lightly because he's been very ill recently. You know, he, he, he said, he said a couple weeks ago that he, he was in a coma for five days and absolutely, you know, I am, I'm very glad that he's outta that coma and that he's giving besting hour. But yeah, he was, he, he, he used to be so good on the NFL show, on the BBC when it was like him, mark, Mark Chapman and Jason Bell, and then he's. He just tries to make jokes now and it's not good. And it's the same with Jason Bell. Like Jason Bell, I love Jason Bell. He's a wonderful, an analyst. He's a better analyst than OCO, quite frankly, but. He's, he just seems, he just seems to think that you have to be turned up to 11 at all time and know, I just wanna listen to your, your analysis. J Bell. You are a fantastic analyst. Let's just see you doing that because that, that's wonderful and that's why I wanted to watch you on the NFL show, you know, 10 years ago.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:09:31

Yeah, it is. I, I totally agree with you. It is really frustrating to what seems like a kind of appeal to the, almost the lowest common denominator in terms of like who might be watching and enjoying the coverage.'cause I think at this point, yes, there will be people tuning in for the first time midseason, but it's probably quite, quite rare. Like PE people are, are set in their fandom and they're kind of set in their. Knowledge base about the game and, and I totally agree that many people will watch the NFL for a fantasy football basis or not have a team that they root for or be a red zone kind of fan, which is great, right? None of those things need, you know, need judgment negatively at all. most people know the game well enough to kind of enjoy proper analysis like your craving

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:10:19

Yeah.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:10:19

and like I crave as

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:10:20

Yeah, like, I mean like,

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:10:21

than

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:10:22

sorry to interrupt, but like Channel, channel Five's coverage currently, like Channel five have got the coverage for this first season and the basic, they base it around a game show format and they've got Derma O'Leary hosting and Derma O'Leary is a wonderful host for that game show format. And he clearly does know American football a little bit. You know, he clearly, yes, he was a, he was a fan of the Dolphins in the eighties when he was on Channel four. You know, much like Mark Chapman, uh, you know, he did the NFL show in the NFL this week on the BBC. Clearly he was a fan of the Chicago birds because of that Channel four coverage in the eighties. So, you know, third place of Derma O'Leary, but he's holding it all together. But if you watch, if you look at everything around that broadcast, and this is me kind of going back to my degree and the fact I get communication ques and all that, they are surrounding Derma O'Leary with as many like funny people as possible. Like John Richardson's been on Sean Wel, she's being on, and they acknowledge that they aren't football fans, but they come on because for whatever reason they think that. That broadcast needs to be funny and it doesn't need to be funny. It needs to be good. It just needs to be good. It just needs to be interesting. It just needs, if you are watching American football for the first time, you just need to be told why something's happening. You know, the basic premise of you've got four chances to move 10 yards down the field, and if you move 10 yards down the field, you get another four chances. You know, and then, yeah, there's all the, uh, there's all the things about, you know, ten second runoff on the clock and all that. That's, that's what a first timer needs. That's what's actually gonna make them be interested and want to keep watching. Not as wonderful as, as John Richardson is. I love John, John Richardson. He's a fantastic comedian. You know, like Meet the Richardsons is one of my favorite shows. With the last few years, him and his, his ex-wife, Lucy Beaumont, did a wonderful job at that show. But by his own admission, he should not be on a show about the NFL, you know? So, and, and, but again, and, and that's not, I'm, I'm not meaning to grumble, you know, like it's, but yeah, that, that show is good for what it is. Like the game show element has a lot of charm to it, but.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:12:59

Hmm.

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:12:59

I'm watching football because I want to watch football. Not, not to, not to see that game show for that, but yeah, I've, uh, I've been an old man there and I've wings gone pretending it's, so, I think it's probably best we move on.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:13:13

No, I, I, I, I will, I will join you in that winge. I mean, I don't quite know who that show is aimed at. Like, I, I like, if, if I was being kind of corporate about it, I'd be like, who? What's the audience of that show?'cause it's not. Because clearly it, it's, it's, it's far too NFL specific and, and, and, and they show the game and like that, that's the majority of what the broadcast ultimately is. So if you don't like the NFL, you're not gonna tune into that just for the game show element. So you have to have an interest in American sports or the NFL, but. If you have that interest, then you probably are already maybe a subscriber to, to D Zone or Game Pass or Sky. And if not, fine, but ultimately you might know enough about the game to not have to worry about the way that they pitch it. And also you prefer some analysis rather than the nonsense. So I kind of go like, who is it for? So I, I do struggle with that. I, I do think. But banter is good when it's just natural,

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:14:13

Exactly.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:14:14

it's ultimately like really frustrating to listen to and a bit cringe. And that's kind of where it's gone with some of these things. So

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:14:20

Yeah,

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:14:20

there's, there's plenty of options on Sunday for

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:14:22

there is. Yes.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:14:24

Um, let's chat about what your plans are for the game then. Um, obviously no question that you'll watch this game live,

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:14:32

Yes, absolutely. I will be a, I'll be getting up. I'll be getting up as normal on Sunday, doing my day as normal. The wonderful thing about the Super Bowl is it means that the NBA does matine a games, and I'm a ba, I'm a basketball fan first and foremost, so I'll watch an NBA game and then I'll have a strategic nap. Then I'll make sure I'm up and ready for like, the start of the Super Bowl coverage.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:14:58

Nice. Good, good for you. And, uh, what's the food and drink situation

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:15:02

So,

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:15:03

Casa

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:15:03

so, uh, so this, my try and tru and this, this, this, uh, this took about 15 years to Perfect, was pepperoni pizza, couple of beers, pack Doritos, and, and a couple of dips Try.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:15:22

flavored Doritos. I have to ask what

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:15:24

I, I go for original and then it's, it's for dips. It's for dips that it goes all over work, whether it's, you know, get myself a salsa, get myself a sour cream and chive. Occasionally I might treat myself and go some natural cheese on top.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:15:38

Yeah. Nice. You gotta go. You got, you've gotta, you've gotta kind of get into the spirit of this sort of stuff, and I'm, I'm, I'm pleased that you do. Um, I do have to ask where your pepperoni pizza is coming from. Is that a delivery takeaway situation? Is that like a Sainsbury's pepperoni you've gotta go to?

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:15:53

No, no. I'll, uh, I'll, uh, I'll, I'll go, uh, I'll go to a supermarket and I will buy a pizza. This is a. You know, one of the, uh, one of the things that I make very, I'm very proud of my heritage and I'm half Italian, so I could, I could go down the whole make one, but no, no, I just, I go for like a good, a good solid American pepperoni pizza. Because it's for Super Bowl and then, yeah, Dorito, as I say, Dorito's dip. And normally it's a couple of beers this year. I can't, I can't drink alcohol at all, which is,

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:16:27

Mm-hmm.

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:16:28

not a big drinker, but I, I, I make an exception for the Super Bowl and have a cup of beers, but can't do that this year. Uh, for, uh, various reasons. And that's fine because you know, if you can't, if you can't have a good time without alcohol, then. You know, it's, uh, that's a shame and I can certainly enjoy myself without our call, particularly when my team is in the Super Bowl.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:16:50

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, who knows how long you'll enjoy the game for. Let's talk about the game because obviously, as you know, when I hosted guest hosted your most recent episode of your podcast, I did unfortunately predict a Seattle Seahawks victory. I wondered if you might just kind of. Forget posting the show after I did that, or cut me out completely or re re try and find a host at the last minute after I did that. But I, I had to be honest with my kind of prediction, even though perhaps I wasn't as kind to you as the

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:17:20

No. No. In fairness, in fairness, I'm the only per, I'm the only person who, who's even. Contemplating that the Patriots might win. And well also, and the, uh, the, the guy who, the guy from Seattle Gavin who's, who, uh, gave a Seahawks point of view, like he, he contemplated the possibility, but otherwise you and all the other, uh, and the fans of all the other teams, but, uh, gave a prediction, all of your predicting Seahawks. And you know what, that's fine by me because. It's, uh, you know, like if, if it means the pressure's off, but hopefully we can, uh, we can, hopefully we can surprise everyone and, and win.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:18:02

Hey, not a bad position to be in when you have almost nothing to lose in that sense, and everyone else thinks you're going to lose. Um, let's talk a little bit about, about the game itself then. I, I kind of wanna hear some of your keys to a Patriot's victory. As many or as few as you like, of those that you think, you know, if that sort of thing happens or if you play that sort of way, or this player, whatever, um, what's the road for the Patriots to kind of win this Super Bowl for you, Brett?

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:18:27

So on the, on the Super Bowl. 60 preview episode of the BCS podcast folks. Uh, Josh kindly, guest host is one of the things that Josh said was that, um, uh, the Patriots play complimentary football, and we need to keep doing that. I would say that there's a few, there's a few different things that we have to do in August to win this game, and the big one for me is we have to give. Draped may as many opportunities on offense as possible. And for that to happen, uh, the two tackles Will Campbell and Morgan Moses. Have really got to step up their game because Drake may was sacked five times, uh, in all three of the previous playoff games. And yes, of course those are, that's against, uh, the Chargers, thetans in the Broncos who've all got dug defenses. Yet still, we won those games. But if we, if we wanna win a Super Bowl, we've got to give drape may as many opportunities as possible. So we've gotta assure up that, uh, offensive line. Uh, one of the things that, uh, the Patriots do on of offenses, occasionally they'll bring in, uh, the defensive linemen, uh, Karis, Tonga and Heel acts as a battering ram to create a hole, uh, for re scheming center into Ruey. I think that's something that we might have to consider doing is bringing someone like Tonga onto the offensive line, uh, every now and again to kind of be that battering ram and to take out, you know, the, uh, the Seahawks defense to give us that opportunity. Whether that's giving, giving re Stevenson a chance to run or whether it's giving, uh. It, it's creating, it's creating some additional space by taking a guy out so that Drake may has got more chances to survey helium through. And I think we also have to do the same on defense. You know, like something that we know about Sam Gar is he does not respond well to pressure. He's not as bad as he used to be, but you know, he very famously saw ghosts against the Patriots a few years ago. And. We're gonna have to, we're gonna have to try and do that again. Whether that's, you know, whether that's rushing guys off the edge, whether that's mixing up the, the looks that we are giving to the Patriots or to the, sorry, the, the Seahawks offensive line. We've got to find a way to put pressure on Sam Donald if we, if we can neutralize him, if we can n uh, if we neutralize him, we also neutralize the wide receivers. That's a big part of the Seahawks game. And then we, you know, we then, we then only in quotes have to worry about Kenneth Walker. So, yeah, I think we've got to play that complimentary football. We've got to be solid, but our, our offensive and defensive lines need to be solid and I think quite frankly. Uh, Josh McDaniels on offense and, uh, you know, Terrell Williams with the, with the help of ZKO on defense, we're gonna have to, we're gonna have to excavate every single nook and cranny of those playbooks because, you know, as much as I wrote off the Seahawks at the start of the season, they have spectacularly proven me wrong. They are a, uh, they are a legit football team. And we are gonna have to, we are gonna have to do everything, uh, that we can possibly do. We are gonna have to spring every possible surprise that we can if we are gonna be able to beat the sea Horts on Sunday.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:22:20

I really balanced and I think I agree with most of that take actually, Brett, because, um, one of the things I was thinking about was. Controlling the clock, kind of being able to establish the run, really old school stuff. Right. Um, but that sort of style of football that you, you mentioned bringing in, in the extra lineman, uh, jumbo packages, uh, eligible, all that kind of stuff, just to set a tone, but also to keep the ball in the hands of Drake may and the offense, rather than giving Donald too, too many chances. Right. I think that's, that's part of what I. I think is a, is a key. And I talked about that earlier in the previous segment actually, so it tied in quite nicely. Um, Sam Donald, to me, is the key to this game, kind of on both sides of the, of the football. I, I feel like his performance. Is the one thing I would point to either way that will make the biggest difference to the outcome of this game. And, and obviously a lot of that will depend on how well the Patriots are able to defend him and pressure him, like you said. Um, and I kind of dunno which way that's gonna go. So I, I, I, my final prediction, you are here, I'm not gonna tell you now. I'm gonna make you try and listen. I'll text you if

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:23:36

I always, I I, I always listen to the show. Like I, you know, yeah. Like I, I listen, like the last time I was on, in, like in, and you were, and you put me on last, I still, I still listen to you, James and Lee. Uh, basically, basically ripping each other

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:23:52

Yeah.

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:23:52

for half an hour before, before I then came on.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:23:56

Yeah. That's pretty much what will happen in this episode. Um, no, but a, a sneak preview, I guess for you about people who have already heard it, but my prediction is much closer than I originally thought and predicted earlier on. Um, and I'm kind of leaning on some of the things you've been. Been messaging me around and some other friends who are Patriots fans around Vrabel having tricks up his sleeve, understanding this game, kind of the experience of it. McDaniel's being in this position before, in terms of the success he's had in, in for the Patriot. I, I, I feel like I was too keen earlier this week to suggest that the Seahawks was such a dominant force that the Patriots be blown away. Um, and. The way you described the keys for the Patriots there makes them sound quite attainable and achievable if they're able to, to kind of set themselves up the right way. the X factor is, is some of the, the skill position players on offense for the Seahawks, Jackson Smith, and Jig B for example, Kenneth Walker and their, and their strength as, as a defense overall, which can be kinda suffocating. But this is a, this is a Super Bowl and a matchup that I'm way more interested in than previous years. Um, and not just because the Eagles aren't in it or the chiefs aren't in it, but also because I think it's an, it is a really intriguing matchup, and I think the fact that it's quite close in terms of who. At least in terms of the spread and, and what some people are thinking who, who are in the know this game. It's closer than people think. I think that's a good sign. I think it could be a really good game because of that. Um, I'm really, really looking forward to it. Um, and, and your kind of discussion there about how the Patriots might be able to get it done as has peaked my interest even more.

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:25:33

Yeah. Right. Yeah, absolutely. Like, and it's a, you know, I. I think one of the things that makes the Super Bowl interesting is I, there weren't, there were, I don't think there were any of many people that would've predicting either the Patriots or the Seahawks would get to the Super Bowl. Like, you know, the most, the most ambitious fans. Yes. But you know, I regard myself as a pragmatist and I thought, well, you know, we, Patriots might just about be able to get a wild card swap, you know, like, same with the Seahawks. Like again, I wrote them off. Mainly because veering such a strong division as it happens, they topped what was a very strong division. So I wasn't completely wrong, I just discounted the Seahawks because of how strong, you know, bere, not beres, sorry, the uh, the beams and the forcing irons are. So it's, but yeah, it's, I think that's what makes it interesting is people did not expect this to be the Super Bowl matchup. And it is, and it's also the Super Bowl matchup. It's a, it's also a, it's also a, you know, it's, it's two teams that very famously went up against each other in Super Bowl 49, and there was a very famous ending to that game. You know, like I remember, I remember watching, I remember when it was Super Bowl 49. I, I'd only just started a new job, so I didn't dare take Monday off. So I watched the first car, went to bags, went into work. Basically told everyone, if you know the Super Bowl result, don't tell me. Got got through the whole day, drove home, and then watched the, um, watched the second half. I was living with someone at the time and they just, they just gave me go. Yes. I'm like, I'm like, what's happening? What's happening? So.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:27:27

like that is, that's a snapshot in time, that that would probably be now, though it's not that long ago. Like now you, I dunno if you'd be able to avoid

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:27:37

Yeah, like I think, well it was, I think, uh, NFL, like the NFL was on the BBC at the time. So,'cause we're talking 2015, I think it was. It might, it might have even have been, um. Might be getting this wrong. I think it was even pre chaps, OC and J Bell on the B, b, C. So like, yeah, it was, I think, yes, yes, I'm right. It was a, it was on Channel four, VER and Kay presenting it with Mike Carson and yeah, I, uh, yeah, it was a, you know, it was, that was, I think that was the scar of like the NFL starting to get bigger in the, in the uk. And it's, um, yeah, I'm, I think you're right.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:28:21

Nice. Uh, good shout for Mike Carlson. I used to love Mike

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:28:24

Oh yeah.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:28:25

was the guy I couldn't remember earlier when I was talking about Colin Murray on Channel five, because Murray and Carlson did that together for a period as

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:28:32

Yeah. And he's, you know, fantastic broadcasters, Mike casting, and it's, uh, yeah, like it's, um, I, uh, I like one of the things I is, I listen to the Nacu show and Mike Casting's a regular on that with, uh, Ben Isaacs, and I'm forgetting the other, the other LA's name. But yeah, like. I think we have some, we do have some wonderful broadcasters in this country when it comes to the NFL and yeah. Nat Coons, uh, with, with, uh, Mike Carson is, yeah, he's, he's a, he's an absolute national treasure for British NFL fans, I would say.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:29:07

Agreed. I'm glad. We agree on that as well. Um, um, we are gonna disagree on the final score prediction. I'm gonna ask you now, Brett, for the final word on the head on free podcast before the Super Bowl for your final score prediction for this game. And also I did ask you to come up with, with a random prediction, could be anything related to the game on Sunday. So if you could give me both of those before we close out, that would be

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:29:29

Okay, so firstly I think that you've got two very good defenses here, and I've said this about the, said this about the Broncos pa uh, Patriots game as well. Said it was gonna be 10, it was gonna be 13, 10, and it ended up being ten seven. I think this is a game where, and yep, I'm biased, but I'm, I'm also optimistic. I think it's gonna be 1713 to the Patriots. And in terms of, uh, you know, like a wild prediction, Brendan skewer as Meg is going for the Patriots, a song who. Who, you know, rushes off the edge on special teams and stops pumps and stops field goals. Brendan Schooler would also plays a wide receiver in, uh, college and I think if we are, if Josh McDaniel is gonna excavate every knock and cranny of his playbook, I think we, we bring Brendan schooler in, have, Markham is an putting down as an eligible receiver and he, he gets a reception. For the Patriots at some point on Sunday, because as I say, we need to be, we need to be throwing every possible surprise at the Seahawks. And I think that is a, that's a surprise that could work out just in the same way that like the Philly special works out for the Eagles when they played the Patriots, uh, in, in the Super Bowl, uh, pre pandemic.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:30:56

Nice. That is exactly the kind of random, um, take kind of, uh, thing that I wanted when I asked you, because most Washington fans, probably most listeners to this podcast, won't have heard that name before necessarily. If they have it's from you

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:31:13

Sure.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:31:13

at some point. And now we have a prediction that's that's based around that and, and a, and a trick play or

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:31:19

Yeah.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:31:19

we're not expecting to be part of the game. So I love

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:31:21

Either that, or rather than, rather than Tonga being brought onto the offensive flying to act as a battering ram for Ramon Stevenson, they go, Wildcat, they put the ball in Tonga's hand and he battering, rams his way into the, into the end zone and gets a touchdown as a, as a, as a rushing.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:31:41

Nice. Love that. Okay, cool. Brett, thanks so much. I, I love the optimism. Uh, thank you for the analysis and it's always great to chat to you. Um, I'm assuming you'll be doing some sort of recap of the Super Bowl as either a podcast or, or as a substack or

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:31:55

If I can, if I can get people to send me reactions to the Super Bowl. On a Monday morning when they are bleary eyes and uh,'cause I did this last year and I somehow my to, to get multiple chiefs fang and multiple eagle fangs to send me a. To send me reactions to the Super Bowl result. So yeah, I'm, I'm basically just gonna use your podcast to advertise now, if there are any, if there are any Patriots fans or any Seahawks fans who you know, who are listening to this podcast and you fancy like sending me a reaction to the result on Monday morning, please do feel free. I will gladly, I'll gladly take it, and I will gladly put that out as a Super Bowl reaction episode on Monday afternoon.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:32:40

Nice. Thank you. No, and please do use, use this platform. I'm not sure how useful it'll be.

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:32:44

Good.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:32:44

anyone is listening, how do they, how do they get in touch with you, Brett? On, on, on X

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:32:48

Right. So I'm on Twitter and I'm on Blue Sky at Brett Chat Sports. Get in touch with me on. Either of those platforms, like send me a message, you know, tweet me as, tweet me, message me, you know, send, you know, like follow me and then send me a message and then, you know, I'll follow you back and we'll, we'll we, we will chat over DM and we'll get that source because yeah, the only Patriots fan I know currently is me. Uh, it's, you know, it's, it's why, it's why I got you on to guest, host the podcast'cause it wa it was only right if I was gonna be the Patriots fan, giving the Patriots fan's view, make sure that there was an actual genuine, neutral, who knows the NFL host that show and actually being a fur and balanced coast rather than me trying to do double duty. And yeah. And people could have rightly have been skeptical about that.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:33:43

Uh, that's, that's, that's, that's good of you. That's very kind as well. But I, I do think you'd have done a good job. I do think you'd have been able to hold it together and be relatively impartial, but at least you didn't have to do that.

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:33:53

Well,

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:33:53

that I was able

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:33:54

well, the facts is, I, you know, I, I, I know, I know a podcast host who I know knows football. He is, quite frankly, Josh, you are, you are more knowledgeable about the NFL than I could ever be. So the fact that I was able to get you in as a guest host and, and actually if, if anyone hasn't watched the, uh, the super. 60 preview episode of the BCS podcast. Watch it if for no reason so you can actually see what Josh looks like.

josh_1_02-05-2026_191135 1:34:22

Trying to avoid that as much as possible. People seeing what I look like. No. Any kidding? No, it was great. It was great to be on, and it's a pleasure for you to be on this show as well. I really appreciate you coming on and sharing your thoughts. Look, Brett, enjoy the game. I wish you all the best. I think the seals are gonna win, for your sake. I hope the Patriots win.

brett-walker_1_02-05-2026_191134 1:34:38

It is always a pleasure, Josh. Thank you very much for having me on.