6 - Amanda’s Story: From Ulcerative Colitis To Cancer & The Plant That Helped Her Heal.

What happens when modern medicine leaves you out of options? Amanda shares her powerful story of enduring ulcerative colitis and stage 4 cancer, and finding healing and strength through cannabis. From suppositories to homemade oils and her new partnership with the game-changing Noids Machine, this episode is a masterclass in patient advocacy, plant medicine, and resilience.

This episode is for you whether you're curious about cannabis and chronic illness, or want a behind-the-scenes look at how real women are reclaiming their health

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Transcript

So Amanda. Yes. Hello, hello. For those who haven't met you yet, can you share a little bit about who you are and what life looked like before health challenges and the plant entered your world? Oh, beforehand. I think I was a bit active.

Didn't do any sports or anything, but I was an active, healthy person. Oh, love working. I'd always work. You know, I had two retail shops, so we worked a lot. Had young boys. Awesome. Everything was really, really awesome. And then, yeah, when you get sick, it's like it really does change everything. Yeah. Like everything. And the options that are out there, it's.

It's very hard, really hard. It can be. So what was that turning point for you in your health journey? 

Turning point, I had a herb shop, Happy Herb Shop, and I, yeah, and I literally, we had like 37 herbs on the wall and for everything, like amazing, incredible. You could come in with...

People would come in and say, we've got prostate in the family. And I'm like, awesome. Let's go look at this. Let's look at that. Look at this. And then when I got sick, the options, there was none of that. The doctors wouldn't offer, there was nothing. You couldn't do anything. You couldn't even have a vitamin E or vitamin C tablet. I really had to do my own research.

The medication that I was getting, I had every side effect. So with the, I'm just going to take, just say the listeners, because I know the story, but so you were first, you were diagnosed with ulcerative colitis. Yes. Yes, 2010. Okay. Probably about six months after my son was born. Yeah, everything in that area just went wrong. Ulcerative colitis. It was terrible.

Oh, it was terrible. And I couldn't take any of the opiates. I did not like the medication. They were like, oh my God, these blue horseshoe sized tablets. Like it was terrible. I had every side effect. And because I had the herb shop, I did my research and I had all these herbs and the best herb.

was cannabis um so then I had yeah for ulcerative colitis ulcerative colitist can you explain a little bit for those that are listening that don't know what ulcerative colitis is are you able just to tell us a little bit about what it is and what your symptoms were well for me my rectum all of it my colon my everything was ulcerative was um ulcers

Everywhere, just riddled with ulcers. It was so painful. And all the medication was oral. There was no suppositories. There was nothing. That's funny. There was nothing. So I wanted to find a way to turn cannabis into a suppository. Simple research. Didn't take long. There's amazing things happening overseas. We thought about it for such a long time. I actually went overseas to visit a friend that was in Canada.

And when I was there, we went to this little herbal shop and there was an MB machine and you infuse your herb into oil, butter or tincture. And I thought, hang on a second, I can use that to make an oil to make a suppository. And I'm like, oh, I took a few photos. I sent it to Nathan because it was a big box. And I'm like, babe, can I bring this home?

And he's like, send me a few pictures. And I took a few pictures. I brought it. We took it back to my friend's house. We left it on the counter. In my mind, I'm like, oh, I can't wait to get back to Australia. Like, yes. In that time, Nathan had emailed the details on the machine because I sent him all the photos. And he contacted the inventor of the machine. They had a communication very, very quickly.

And Nathan was explaining to him, my wife has ulcerative colitis. This machine will be magic for her, like my goodness, but also magic for us because we own two retail shops and we would love to distribute this around Australia, depending on how it goes and, you know, whatnot. And Nathan's like, my wife's already brought it, so it's going to come home with us. And I was in Canada for I think only seven days. We really did a really quick trip.

So I did seven days and then Nathan was going to come after me. And then so when I was flying back, Nathan had organized a meeting with the inventor and he flew over to Florida first and then he flew over to Canada. When I landed back in Australia, we had already started a really awesome agreement to start distribution of this incredible machine. So fast forward, bring the machine in, we start making medicine.

Every herb on our wall, like almost every single herb, we could turn into an oil, butter or tincture. Tincture. Amazing. Medicine. Medicine at home, eh? And if you grow your own lavender, you can make your own lavender oil. Yeah, it's beautiful. You know, it was just, it was magic. It was magic, magic, magic. And it made consuming so much easier. Yeah, because not all of us like to, well, not everyone likes to inhale. Absolutely.

Also, when you use a suppository, because I'm a big fan, I use them for my adenomyosis. And when you use it, it keeps the medication local to your pelvis and you don't get that head high, which is fabulous. Now, talk us through. So you started making your own oil. Yes. And you had ulcerative colitis. What happened over the 20 months? Okay. So this was very, very lucky. Okay. So I had the shot.

We made sure we had full-time employees because we were going to do this seriously. We found this protocol that it was like a gram a day for six weeks. I'm like, okay, let's do this. We did it. I think I did it for eight weeks. I think the first week I did half a gram because it was like a lot. So this is FICO, yeah? Yeah, this was FICO in a capsule. That's a full extract cannabis oil for those of you listening and the machine extracts the oils from the fresh flower material.

I honestly think if you can consume cannabis in any way, like even if you're doing it on the stove, even if you're doing it in the freezer, as long as we're getting something into us. And I think also because I started at half a gram and I was a small consumer to start with.

It was easier for me. It's a lot. Just for the listeners that get out there, half a gram is a significant amount. Yes. It takes a certain level of, what am I looking for, the word?And tolerance because it really does, it can knock you around. But when you know what we know, then it's good to get on. It was so awesome.

I think I had the best sleeping life of my life. It was awesome. Repeat and repair every day. It was awesome. Yeah, I think about eight weeks we did it, and I was in complete remission. I went in for a colonoscopy. They went in, they took photos, and he was like, you wouldn't even know what happened, girly. And he called me girly, and I was like, you wouldn't even know after eight weeks.

Prior to that, though, we actually, we went to Brisbane to see a specialist because there's no specialists in CQ. I had a, the doctor that I saw, he went in just in his office. He like, he looked at Nathan and he's like, this poor girl's in so much pain. He goes, there's an ulcer every millimeter. He's like, this is really, really bad. And he was the one that prescribed me all this crazy ass medicine. And I mentioned to him, what do you think about? medical cannabis, what do you think about CBD? What do you think about THC oil? What can I do? He said no. He dissed it. Then I was like, then I got so disappointed because I was like, oh, well, I can't even tell him about my herb shop then. I want to tell him about all the stuff I can use, all the stuff I have been using. He was like, nah, nah, you're just going to do what you've got to do. I remember when we came home, he rang my home.

He rang my mobile at home and made sure that I was still using the therapeutic medicines and not doing anything else. And I was like, this is so disappointing because you saw how bad it was, you know. But then jump forward to eight weeks later, it's all gone. Unbelievable. So that was amazing. So ulcerative gliders, you kind of always have it. It'll come and go. You'll have flares. I've had multiple flares, but nothing bad.

Nothing that I can't fix. If I get a, like, I'm also going through immunotherapy at the moment. So if I get a tummy bug, it's hell. So I always have my medicine. It's always there. I've always got the gastric issues. But I can, I've pretty much controlled my ulcerative colitis. I have the tools. Yeah. I also have before and after colonoscopy photos, which I love because it looks like. so terrible then it's so perfect and I'm just like yes you know what are the doctors what did he say like when he'd I didn't ever go back he was a very old um he was a very older gentleman he was in um Wickham Terrace and I know there's a lot of doctors in Wickham Terrace and I've been there for other things over the years and I've quite thought oh I wish I'd walk past him or you know I wish I could sit next to him in the cafeteria and show him my photos and going look

it happened like yeah there's another way and that's how I mean look I think you by you actually raising it with the doctors and saying what about CBD what about THC what about what about I feel like eventually if enough patients say that they're going to have to say hang on a minute I need to look into that but to have that condition under control within eight weeks is pretty phenomenal so unbelievable I thought let's fast forward today because you are facing a new challenge and

If you can talk me through what's happened recently and how you're back using the plant. Oh, my Lord, I'm so lucky for the plant. I had, so after my ulcerative colitis, I was awesome for a few years. I had glaucoma. I had intercreen. Bye. Really? I'm so awesome. I get everything. I love it. I am so positive. It's not funny. You are positive. You're very positive and you're very good at managing. Very good. I've got a very good husband and I've got awesome kids. I've also got intracranial hypertension where I have too much spinal fluid on my brain.

I'm a very cool person. I'm very lucky. But anyway, anyway, anyway. So ulcerative colitis, and then I'm always very yucky in the stomach. Then I had, for about two years, constant period pains, like death, like death. And I knew my mum, I knew my sister had really bad periods. I had them all through my childhood, like naprogesic. I tried all the herbs, everything. I went in for that ablation surgery.

That checked, you know, and came out with endo and addomediosis. And while he was there, I got him to tie my tubes because I was like, everything's screwed. I'm not going to, you know. Risk it. Not going to risk getting pregnant. Yeah. Yeah. And just, you know, no way, no way. So I got my tubes tied. And then two years, got my tubes tied. Then two years later of constant pain, like I couldn't work.

I was having, I could work from home, obviously. I would not be able to have a normal job. I was so lucky to have our own business and work from home. I cannot say that enough. So blessed for that. Just the daily pain, like at least with working at home, I could get away, I could do this, I could self-medicate, get my work done.

Yeah, walk around with a heat pack glued and balms and I get it, absolutely. Just because the adenomyosis for me, so I only have one of those things and it's difficult enough to manage for a couple of weeks during the month and I can imagine going out to work would be so tough. It was like, so then I said I booked in for hysterectomy and he's like, yeah, we've got to do this. Like this is too much. So I went in for hysterectomy. It's meant to be lapistopic, end up being C-section.

Beautiful doctor took it all out. I'm laughing. I shouldn't be laughing. The beautiful doctor took it all out and he thought it was ovarian cancer. So everything got sent away and he's such a beautiful doctor. For three days he had to visit me and for three days he had to try and tell me something was up, like something's really up. He couldn't tell me because I'd have my son with me. um but i could tell in his personality because he's such an amazing doctor but he just he couldn't tell me he wanted to wait for the results and when the results came in it was stage four follicular lymphoma um and it was everything like ovaries were twisted tubes everything um it was everything and then when the poor bugger when he first told me i was like oh he's been struggling um

And then that's why I found out what that pain was for two years as well. What happened? I strayed away after, honestly, three days after the surgery, I had to go to Mackay for a PET scan. And then that's where they diagnosed what stage you are, how far you are. I got a copy of my PT scan and I was lit up like a Christmas tree. And I was like.

like everywhere and I was like that explains that pain oh my goodness that's why that hurts now you make sense right and then I was like I think because it was like stage four I was like I had cancer for a few years and didn't know so I'm living life with struggles and teenagers and you know

I actually had cancer at that time. And then I look back to some of the things I've done in that period. I was like, oh, yeah, I did do a few crazy things and make a few crazy decisions. Makes sense now. Yeah, like it, yeah, after my surgery to tie my tubes, I was perfect. There was nothing there. It was awesome. It literally took two years for when I went back in and it was just.

riddled the whole thing um so this is recently isn't it just for a timeline um yeah 2023 and then i did six months of chemotherapy um and how how was that for you like in your system just so people people out there understand very emotional probably um more emotional than pain i was so emotional i

Having my herbal background and my herbs, I never wanted to do chemo. Never, ever. It makes me cry thinking about it. Never wanted to do chemo, ever. But I had to because you don't have any other option. When you get to stage four, he's like, this is, you've got to do this. And then going in and I was literally the youngest person. That's heartbreaking. But I'm guessing, you know, children go to a different.

They go to Brisbane or whatnot. But, yeah, it was hard. And then I'm on immunotherapy. Immunotherapy is a lot easier. It's once every eight weeks. I always get my family and my friends to come with me and it's kind of like a social date and we, like, we clown around and we make everyone happy and we're really loud. Yeah, I really enjoy going to immunotherapy. It's kind of very different.

It's very different to chemo. Chemo was just like pumping me through heaps of drugs. Yeah. But like just emotionally, physically, really good. Nausea, no. Mouth ulcers, no. The list of things you're meant to get from chemotherapy, Amanda didn't get. Why did Amanda not get those things? That's what we shall talk about. Why did Amanda not get them? Oil.

100% my oil. Every single morning I have my oil. Nighttime I have my beautiful capsules. If I have a flare-up due to food or the environment, I'll do my suppository. Yeah, I literally have every six weeks I have my appointment with my hematologist. He has the big list, repeated list of questions. Do you have this? Do you have that? Have you had issues with this? And I'm just like, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. Always says, just keep doing what you're doing.

Yeah, that's fantastic. Keep doing what you're doing. And I told him what I'm doing. He doesn't want to talk about it too much. He's more on the, yeah, he's not more, yeah. He doesn't want to talk about it too much. Yes, but he definitely understands and he knows something's different going on with me compared to other people.

Apart from just very recently, I had a reaction, but just recently I had no reactions, no infections, nothing. And my immunity is zero. Yeah, okay. The plan is just incredible. Like I have, like, yeah, every six weeks he is expecting us to say, I've had two routes of antibiotics. I've had this, I've done this, what have you done, what have you done? But me, it's like nothing.

Nothing, because the plant supports. And there is research out there from the States that shows particularly THCA and CBDA help with nausea. They help with cell apoptosis. So, you know, getting a THCA and a CBDA into cancer patients, to me it's... unbelievable with all the research I've been reading I've done done like you that it's not a first line of treatment for people because it's so supportive during chemo if if nothing else right it just makes it so makes it more subtle more peaceful more relaxing it's more oh it's not a head thing for me like I can't do opiates they're so they're terrible um terrible and then

Oh, I've done them with my ulcerative colitis. And constipation. Like this is the thing, right? I keep telling, like the constipation and then if you've got pelvic pain or pain in your pelvic cavity and you get constipation, it's the worst thing ever. Yeah. Like horrible. And then you're feeling nauseous. Then you feel like mental health, but what they do in mental health, it's just unbelievable. So being able to have the plant is just fabulous. Fabulous.

I often thought when I had my ulcerative colitis and I did take a little bit of opiates and I did take the medicine, it was like six months later I got intracranial hypertension. And I was like, did this come from all these chemicals? What's going on? And you know what? My intracranial hypertension never flared up until I got back onto chemo. Ah, interesting. So I'm like, you know, maybe my body doesn't work with chemicals.

I don't know, but I know the plant works. So I just have to go with what's making me move. Well, we have an endocannabinoid system. Funny that. Funny that, isn't it? Who would have thought we make our own endocannabinoids? But using external cannabinoids, phytocannabinoids, they plug into our, well, I mean, that's top line, but they plug into our endocannabinoid system. So it isn't all just.

some woo-woo hippie stuff that we spout. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. It's in our plants. It's in nature, you know, like it's in everything except plastic. No, definitely not that. Definitely not plastic. So where are you at in your journey? So now you're on immunotherapy.

I can't say half these words. It's terrible. Yes, I'm on immunotherapy. Yeah, that's okay. It's a ride. Yeah. And it's a very repetitive ride because it's the same thing every time I get it, the same feelings for the first three days. I know exactly what to do. I know how to medicate. I know what to have with me.

You know, I just don't plan things for a few days. No, you don't. I did notice that. I like that you had some strong boundaries around that because I was like, we just met and I'm like, let's do this, let's do that. And you're like, I need a few days. Yeah, like my brain is so slow and it's so frustrating. And my body is so slow. Like I just, what is it? My mind and my soul just wants to do so much, but I just can't get there. And it's good to take rest. I'm fine. Yes.

Today, I'm going through this stage at the moment where I'm like, things happen during the rest, Kyla. You need to be patient. It's so hard. It's so important. It's like, oh, it's so important to repair and relax because you just can't continue on. Like you just, you need that time. So what do you think during this phase with cancer, what do you think some of the biggest lessons or gifts perhaps that the plant has offered you?

What kind of gifts? It's in my life every day now, like since. And so it helps you to, you know, obviously with side effects, it helps you keep your head on straight. Oh, absolutely. It helps me keep my wit on. It makes me a better mum. Oh, my God.

I have, I'm so tolerant. I relate. I relate. I totally relate to this conversation. I'm such a tolerant mum. We're going through driving lessons at the moment. And my son's at 95 hours and I think I've done 90 of them. Well done, mama. Well done. I know. I'm in the same boat. I'm on 50 hours with mine. And I'm constantly checking. What are you up to? What are you up to? I'm just more relaxed in life now.

I'm so relaxed. I'm so chilled. My health is so fucking bizarre that I just have to be chilled because I just don't know what's going to happen. Well, you take it with a very positive attitude because, I mean, you have to, don't you? Otherwise, where do you end up? It was like it was only maybe two or three weeks ago that I got my first infection through this whole cancer. And it was.

Oh my God, I scratched myself and my eye blew up and I look like a monster. And then we had football on the weekend and I'm just like, I'm not missing football. This is my life. This is, I love watching football. And I went with an eye that was so swollen. I look like a lunatic, but I was like, I'm not going to let this take this away from me.

And then I did a little post and I put it on Facebook and I'm like, this is not me looking for attention. This is me just saying, this is my first side effect. Fuck, I'm lucky. You know, and lucky, I know it was my eye and we freaked out a little bit, but yeah, very lucky, very lucky. And cannabis helped with that too, didn't it? Did it now, hey? Absolutely. You know, it's incredible.

And I like inspiring people like that. A few friends were like, oh, my God, I can't believe you actually came out. I'm like, yes, I'm not going to let this stop me. Like one thing I've learned is I don't want to miss things now because I always have the thought like, what if that was my last Easter? I'm not missing things. I don't want to miss things. I'm going to do everything.

Everything that I can. Yeah, that's awesome. And I love that. While I can. It's really good for everyone to understand that. It doesn't matter whether you're not well or not. I think it comes a little bit with age too that you start going, oh, well. In saying I do, I do want to do everything, but I do know when I need to rest. Good. That's good to hear. No good me going somewhere when I'm like just depleted. No. That's no good. No. And I don't like showing that person, so I am very hermity when I get.

Same. I'm the same. I go hermit. They're like, oh, why didn't you come? I'm like, yeah, you don't want to know. I'm over it. I'm over it now, but I was very hermity yesterday. Yeah. That's good that you know those. And another question that I have that I'm thinking about now, so going through this journey, particularly recently, but through your whole journey.

Have you found that you've faced any stigma or barriers using cannabis as a medicine? No. I'm a little bit different. We're very quiet. we as a couple are very, very quiet. I love advocating but softly. Yeah, that's okay.

And I really, like, I credit everyone who is loud and I thank you and I applaud you, but I can't do that. Not where I live. And I've got two beautiful boys. My job is to get them to have the best start in life. And it was hard with the herb shop. It was very hard with the herb shop. The kids were in a private school. People would be like, what are they doing? They've got a herb shop. That was a bit hard.

But you know what? Every single person has someone in their life that has a disease or has a cancer. Yeah, that's true. And then when that happens, they actually will look at herbs. They come and talk to me then too. Don't worry. That's when they come and say, can I talk to you about your herbs? Yes. I would spend half the day talking to people with diseases and cancers and I love that.

But I absolutely love that. And it would be the people that would judge you previously, that would come back three years later and go, you wouldn't get this. That's your advocacy, though. That's where you're not quiet. Everyone does it differently. Well, I don't be rude with it either. I would never be rude to customers. I would never, they don't want to talk about it. Cool. No, no. You know, I never judged. I never judged, never. I just wanted to talk and whatever worked and whatever.

help them and then I would slowly sell them a packet of Damiana tea. You know, I'd slowly work on them. No, I don't. But then again, I don't know what other people think and I don't want to know because that would affect me even though you're not meant to be like that. You're not meant to know, you know. What other people say about us is none of our business. That's how I remember that. I'm like, I say that to the kids. It's none of our business what they say about us.

I think I said that wrong, but yes, that's definitely true. And I don't know. I don't think so. We, you know, in the early 2000-ish, 2015, we did a lot of Nimbin stuff. That was cool. But we were also younger as well. You know, we were in our 30s, so it was age-appropriate. It was fun. Our bodies could tolerate it. I could not do that anymore.

I couldn't do it. If we did Nimbin, we'd be staying at our friend's previous resort. We'd just be loving life. But I really appreciate everyone who does advocate it. Like really appreciate it because I know. what they do is hard work. But everyone, I love the way, particularly women, and that's why I think this is, you know, this is fantastic that all of these women that I'm meeting on this journey, yourself, all the women that I'm interviewing, everybody advocates in their own way and whether that just be speaking to family and friends, whether that be questioning your doctor, with whatever step you're comfortable with.

That is, it's all part of the pathway that we're paving to get this medicine accessible to everybody, you know? Yeah. And I've always like said to Nathan, we have to, well, we are, but we have to continue to always be positive, be a positive influence. We want to like. I have to say that to myself too. So, you know, like when I'm in a hermit phase, I'm like, I'm not going to put this bit on social media because you want it to be positive. And it is so positive. I think the outreach is.

is more better if it's positive. I think it's taken better if it's positive. I know negativity does spread and it's yucky, but it's just, it's not good. And I just think by being a positive image, always being clean, always being tidy, being polite, you know, changing that stigma on a daily basis is easy. You know, we're just being ourselves. If everyone else could kindly jump on board and do that, that would be lovely.

saying that though I completely understand you know I completely understand and that's me having um businesses in the industry um I also have to protect them as well so we always have to be on top of everything yeah absolutely now what what would you find like so what sort of advice would you give to someone who's just starting their healing journey and they may be feeling a little bit overwhelmed so what would you say I would definitely go slow

I would definitely research. You know, research, go slow, take a few days. You can't change anything overnight. Research. Go to your local health food shop and just walk around and look. You don't have to buy. Look for anything that says CBD. You won't see THC, damn it. But look around, you know, talk to the lady. There's other amazing herbs that can help. And when you show that you're interested in other herbs,

It all leads into one because cannabis is a herb as well. But just slowly, don't go into it 100 miles an hour. Just slow research, even on Facebook, Google. There's lots of stuff out there. And also look to America. It's ridiculous. Oh, the States are well, well, well, well. So is Europe. They're very, very far ahead of us. I mean, in the States, you can get CBD at 7-Eleven. So, you know, they've worked it out.

And in saying that, like Nathan has been travelling for the last 10 years and he would get me the best of the best tinctures. I have lived a very luxurious CBD life. Yes. CBG, everything. Like he, I've had everything. I mean, go back to 2015 when CBD was like $500 a bottle. Oh. Remember those days? Goodness me.

I've had everything from Charlotte's Web to Whoopi Goldberg stuff. I'd like us to finish on, is there anything you're dreaming about or working towards that you'd like to share? Yes, yes, yes. We have a new amazing machine. It's called the Noids Machine. We have gone into business and partnership with a beautiful lady called Chu and I'm going to organise for you to talk to her one day because you will really love her. She's inspirational.

She is just another level, another level of awesomeness in this kind of space. I feel like crying. I had this woman in my house. She is just amazing. And I contacted her. I told her my journey with MB and how that connection through ulcerative colitis. And I said, I need a better machine.

I need something that's going to reclaim, decarb. I want it all in one. I don't have time for this anymore. I need to do it today. I need to put something on in the morning, drop the kids at school, come back, and it's ready for me to have. She has this amazing product. Incredible. I just want to cry. Which I have recently used. I must be honest because I did recently use it.

The best part for me is the decarboxylation because the kids carry on. So easy. They get embarrassed. They're like, oh, my God, the whole house smells. It can smell it on the street. Not anymore. And the reclaiming of the oil. Like that is so expensive and so hard to source. Not everyone has it still. I'm so emotional with this machine because I'm not only the business owner, I'm also the cancer patient who is so grateful for it.

And that's the thing. That's why these stories that we talk about and the women that I have that come on the podcast and who do end up starting something, it's because they've had their own journey with sickness and the plant. And once she...

You know, it's like bitten. I feel like I got bitten by the hemp bug years ago. It was hemp. That's where I started, you know. And once you get bitten by this bug, honestly, it just, it's so fascinating. And you think back to the day, like when we were teenagers and you get a $20 baggie and that was it, right? That was it. You cannot believe what that plant can do. And the amount of community that she brings in, the healing, the technology, there's so much that surrounds her, you know.

And I just love how it keeps evolving every year. There's new information, new science, new technology. It's just incredible. And noise is part of that technology. We have someone, a woman, who has invented something. Woo-hoo! Shout out to the women. So amazing. She has invented this new machine. Yes. And, you know, look, it's fabulous. I'll put the details in the show notes. There it is.

We'll put the details in the show notes so people, if you want to have a look at it and grab it, you can. So what's your dream? To have one of those in every household in Australia, I'd say. Oh, mate. It is. You can make lavender. You can make lavender oil. You can make mugwort. You can make mugwort. Any herb that you want to make an alcohol tincture with out there, listeners, you can do it. Take control of your own health with your own machine in your own kitchen. Oh, just everything. Every little product that I find, I'm like, we can do that.

We can actually do that. We can make that. And then being a medicinal legal patient, when we get our 10 grams, that's perfect. That's 10 grams. I think mine costs now $70 for my 10 grams. I can do that in one go. And I think I make about 80 capsules when I do the oil infusion.

That's me for the month for my capsules. Yeah, that's fantastic. That's incredible. Decarb it, easy, done, all in one day. Yeah, I really would love this to be everywhere. And I really know it will be because MB was amazing. We needed a way to consume. We had to start somewhere. But with technology and knowledge and trial and error.

It can be overwhelming, I think, for a lot of people. Like for me, like I know how to do it all the old-fashioned way because, again, we didn't have the option. Such a process. At that point. But it is a lot of time and effort and you do need to be quite switched on. Yep.

Whereas now as the technology moves, it's so easy to literally sit and forget. And that to me is mind-blowing also because I do have a few things that go on in my life. And so I forget things like on the stove and I burn things and I do all this. So it's great to be able to, you know, know that everything is going to work out exactly how I planned through the machine. I love it. I love it. But it's just, it's like it should be.

Do you know, like, you know how when we go to Woolworths and we buy lavender and your bunch, oh, sorry, not lavender, you buy your coriander and your thyme and everything in your little bunches, you should be able to buy your cannabis leaf like that. We should be able to go fresh fruit, grab our herbs, come home. And we're talking about leaves. Absolutely. Fresh leaves. Sorry, chemo, chemo. The leaves are full of THCA and CBDA, which is what you would be looking for. It's a powerful anti-inflammatory. It's non-intoxicating. And there is research out there showing that it is doing something to cancer cells. So we really should be looking at that as an option, Australia. Absolutely. Come on, Australia.

They need to legalise the leaves for us so we can buy the leaves. Yeah, just the leaves. You can't get high from a hemp leaf. I'd be making me smoothies. Oh, smoothies every day. Oh, yum. Oh, yes.