The Messy Parts
New career advice and messy stories, every Monday.
Whether you’re at the top, or striving to get there—you may have noticed the one thing people rarely talk about: how hard it is to achieve success. The Messy Parts is the answer—a podcast where you’ll hear about the twists, turns and pivots that shape extraordinary careers. The real messy parts along the way. Host Maryam Banikarim has been through it, so she gets it. Maryam has been a transformative leader across media, hospitality and tech. Her powerhouse resume features more than 20 years in the C-Suite at companies like Hyatt, NBC, and Nextdoor—and she has a vast, influential network to match. On The Messy Parts, she brings you unparalleled access to that network. Deeply honest, vulnerable conversations with Maryam—who is never afraid to ask the questions on everyone's mind. Join us as we get real, unfiltered, and messy.
The Messy Parts
She Wanted to Be a Supreme Court Justice. Until One Class Changed Everything.
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What does it take to walk away from everything you thought you wanted? Artist C. Finley knows. She was pre-law, headed for the Supreme Court, until one semester cracked her wide open and changed the entire trajectory of her life. Today she's a renowned muralist, large-scale painter, and the force behind the Every Woman Biennial — but the path here was anything but straight. In this episode of The Messy Parts, Finley gets honest with Maryam about identity collapse, creative risk, inconsistent income, and why being foolish enough to go for it might be the most strategic thing you ever do. From Missouri to Rome to the streets of New York, this is a story about following the thread that lights you up — even when everyone around you thinks you've lost your mind
Key Moments
0:00 - Finding Her Calling 🎨
Finley reflects on the terrifying, electric moment she realized painting was her purpose — and why a blank canvas never gets old.
0:52 - Growing Up an Outsider 🌾
Small-town Missouri, a cultural void, and a kid building worlds alone in her backyard — Finley on the childhood that shaped everything.
2:51 - The Supreme Court Dream ⚖️
Why a fierce sense of fairness had Finley on a hyper-focused path to the Supreme Court — until she actually read a law brief.
5:23 - The Class That Changed Everything 💥
One semester. One teacher. Thirty-two paintings in a basement. The moment Finley's entire identity cracked wide open.
8:12 - Telling Her Parents 😬
She applied to art school without telling anyone. Then came the tears, the silence, and her dad not speaking to her for a month.
13:03 - Arriving in New York 🗽
Pratt, Fort Greene before it was cool, and finally landing in the city she'd been dreaming about since she was a kid.
15:32 - The Ridley Scott Years 🎬
How Finley went from art school graduate to music video sets, scenic painting, and learning the hustle that would fuel her entire career.
19:06 - Rock Bottom in LA 🌊
A heartbreak, a drive-by shooting, a broken-into house, and a $10,000 grant that arrived at exactly the right moment.
24:11 - The Magic Door in Rome 🇮🇹
A stranger spends 13 hours studying her work, then offers her an apartment and a residency. The pivot that changed absolutely everything.
29:30 - The Dumpster Goes Viral 🗑️
How two rolls of leftover wallpaper, two dumpsters in Rome, and one guerrilla midnight mission made the New York Times.
33:08 - The Every Woman Biennial 🌸
What started as a joke between friends became one of the most inclusive art events in the country — including a run-in with Whitney Houston's publicist.
37:04 - Rapid Fire & Real Talk ⚡
Paint disasters, crying two days ago, and the one piece of advice Finley gives everyone navigating a pivot: go be a fool.
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