The Messy Parts
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Whether youโre at the top, or striving to get thereโyou may have noticed the one thing people rarely talk about: how hard it is to achieve success. The Messy Parts is the answerโa podcast where youโll hear about the twists, turns and pivots that shape extraordinary careers. The real messy parts along the way. Host Maryam Banikarim has been through it, so she gets it. Maryam has been a transformative leader across media, hospitality and tech. Her powerhouse resume features more than 20 years in the C-Suite at companies like Hyatt, NBC, and Nextdoorโand she has a vast, influential network to match. On The Messy Parts, she brings you unparalleled access to that network. Deeply honest, vulnerable conversations with Maryamโwho is never afraid to ask the questions on everyone's mind. Join us as we get real, unfiltered, and messy.
The Messy Parts
Bevy Smith Climbed the Ladder, Looked Around โ and Jumped Off
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What does it take to walk away from a six-figure career with no plan, go broke, and come out the other side with a Bravo show, an Amazon Prime series, and a Broadway stage credit? In this episode of The Messy Parts, the one and only Bevy Smith tells Maryam about growing up in Central Harlem, cutting her teeth in luxury fashion advertising, landing at Vibe and Rolling Stone, and then walking away from all of it to start over โ completely sure she was making the right call. Find out what caused Bevy to realize her dream had become a nightmare, how she built Dinner with Bevy from nothing, and why she didn't book her first acting gig until she was 56. Plus: the sheer shirt/mink coat job interview, telling Vibe she couldn't fly coach, and what her mom taught her about men.
If you've ever felt restless at the top, this one's for you.
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Key Moments
00:00 - Freedom Over Money ๐ธ
Bevy opens with a bold declaration: she quit her six-figure fashion career at 29 because freedom has always mattered more to her than a paycheck.
01:47 - The Hamlet of Harlem ๐๏ธ
Bevy explains why she calls herself "from the Hamlet of Harlem" โ and why knowing exactly where you're from is the foundation of everything.
03:08 - The Barmaids Who Made Her ๐ธ
Bevy traces her entire hosting style back to the glamorous barmaids at the Dunbar Tavern on her block โ the original glam pusses who made everyone feel welcome.
05:46 - How She Stole Her Own Job ๐
The legendary story of how Bevy, as a temp receptionist, told every caller the position was already filled โ and ended up getting hired for it herself.
13:53 - Selling Fashion to Vibe ๐ค
Bevy reveals how she landed luxury brands like Gucci and Prada in Vibe Magazine โ not with data decks, but by telling the story of Black style as a cultural birthright rooted in the Civil Rights era.
23:02 - The Rolling Stone Interview Outfit ๐
Bevy walks into a job interview at Rolling Stone in a mink coat, an Hermรจs scarf, and a sheer blouse โ and explains exactly why she dressed that way.
28:37 - The Milan Breakdown ๐ญ
The pivotal moment: alone in a luxury hotel suite in Milan, surrounded by gifts from fashion houses, Bevy collapses into tears and realizes her dream has become a nightmare.
31:32 - Broke But Not Broken ๐
After two years of world travel, acting classes, and creative pursuits, Bevy hits rock bottom financially โ and describes it as the most blissful period of her life.
33:38 - How Bravo Found Bevy ๐บ
The surprisingly casual chain of events โ a friend, a phone call, Andy Cohen on Fire Island โ that led to Bevy landing on national television.
41:22 - It Gets Greater Later ๐
Bevy explains her signature mantra, pointing to her first acting gig at 56 that turned into three seasons on Amazon Prime's Harlem as proof.
43:57 - Rapid Fire with Bevy ๐ฅ
Messy moments, last time she cried, what to do before 35, and the walk-on song that's been hers since day one.
44:18 - Do It Anyway ๐ช
Bevy's final word of advice for anyone in the middle of a pivot: "Do it scared. Do it delusional. Do it anyway."
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