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Chaos Agents Podcast - Paintings (S0202)
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In our second pod of the year, we had a great time chatting with Paintings, a Fort Collins band made up of Max Pliskin, Nathan Adams, Clay Kauffman, and Jolo Louis (our co-host!). Paintings (formerly Paintings of Decay) started making music at the end of 2023, has had many forms and iterations since then, with their sound constantly evolving in the process. Right now, they are bringing the noise and 90s-inspired sounds to the Fort Collins scene, having released their latest album, "Cricket" in 2026. Their single off the album I HATE IT HERE lowk goes so hard.
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Welcome back or welcome to the Chaos Agents podcast. This is season two, episode two, 2026 edition. Holy we got paintings of decay, and we are excited to have y'all. We've got a lot of overlap here because we got Jolo in the band as well. And uh we've got Nate, Clay, Max, Jolo, M, Elijah. Hello. Let's get it started. Um, just have to point out though, you are the resident Nepo baby for the pod, because this is your second time on the pod for a second. So we're calling that out. Just had to begin preferential treatment.
SPEAKER_02We actually well. So you introduced this as Pannies of Decay, but this is a little announcement. We're changing the name. We haven't even announced it yet. Yeah.
SPEAKER_11So what is so now what is it? What is happening?
SPEAKER_02We're just paintings now.
SPEAKER_11Just paintings.
SPEAKER_02Paintings. Okay. We're we're dropping.
SPEAKER_13Okay. S S. Paintings. A rebrand.
SPEAKER_07Thank you for clarifying.
SPEAKER_11It's like you it's like Dunkin' Donuts is now Duncan. It's like, wait, wait.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's just cooler. Yeah, we're we're pulling in HBO. We're no longer decaying. I have to change our name again.
SPEAKER_07What's the thought process behind the name change?
SPEAKER_03I'm actually the only original member. Okay. And when I started it, like I was always kind of iffy on the like paintings of decay. And like every time someone would ask, like, what what's the name of your band, like I would be like embarrassed to say like paintings of decay. And I I don't it just doesn't feel like it like fits us, I guess. So like we'd always just call it paintings anyway.
SPEAKER_04I mean, I think also we're like kind of a different band now.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, because I'm like the only one.
SPEAKER_04I'm the second oldest member, and like I think the band I joined is different from the band I'm in now. Yeah, we're very different.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_07So do you feel like project-wise, like is it your project? Or like I don't know, like some bands are like like Jolo is like everyone kind of is building up Jolo. Tell me about the structure or or how this came about, give us a little history.
SPEAKER_03It it did start as my project. And like our first album, I wrote most of the songs and like uh brought them to our like first band. I feel like when around when Clay joined, we started like writing more together. And now I would say, I guess I'd say it's like kind of like our project now. Like it I mean at least to me it doesn't feel like just my project anymore, like in a good way. Like, yeah, you know, I'm not like the only one like driving it. Like we kind of just write by like jamming. It feels almost like not like a supergroup, but like everyone, like Klay and Jolo and Nate, like everyone has their own projects, and then it feels to me at least like we kind of come together and like make something like kind of different. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, for a bit there it was like I mean, before Jolo and Nate were in the band, I think we were probably the only two like coming up with stuff in writing. Yeah. I do in a way though kind of still see you as like the leader, quote unquote.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, like I mean, I feel like every band you have like your the person who like Yeah, every band is like one or two people.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Really? Like, I w I don't know, like it's not like I would because I guess it I like it feel it would feel wrong to like do any like paintings like without you guys for me, I guess.
SPEAKER_13So yeah, ever since I joined it's been like super collaborative. Even just like with the the songs we've written.
SPEAKER_04The new EP star is cool because it feels like it really doesn't feel like there was like a soul writer or soul like creative person, which is weird because almost every band I've ever been in is like really just like all of the songs are either I've written them all or and that's kind of it, and there might be like one or two songs that someone else writes. Whereas this this EP is weird because it's like no one like there's I'd say we each have like if if we didn't one of us didn't write one of the songs fully like all all of us did or two of us did, like it it's it's really kind of crazy how spread across the board the writing of this album or EP was.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, because like if you remember at one point I was like I did write a bunch of songs like recently that I like brought to everyone. I was like, I want to do this. But then like I don't it just didn't feel like like we one song on the EP was the song that I just wrote alone and then like taught everyone. Two of 'em. Two of them. Wait. I Hate It Here and uh Concrete Walls.
SPEAKER_02I Hate It Here was No, well, I Hate It Here was Oh I guess yeah, you kind of wrote that one.
SPEAKER_03Well we wrote I Hate It Here, like I I thought what happened with that, at least my honestly I don't remember how a lot of the songs came together.
SPEAKER_02We were smoking weird.
SPEAKER_03Well yeah, it was like it was basically just do me and Joey Jam. Yeah, well that was before because Nate is semi he Nate's new to the band. He's very new to memory.
SPEAKER_02We should talk about how we all came about, like into the band.
SPEAKER_07Before we do that, um will you just say like what instruments you play?
SPEAKER_13Oh yes. The weird thing is though, we're all multi-instruments. Which is really fun. You go first. Uh so my name's Nate. I joined recently. Um I'm pretty much singing. Um we'll probably add some synth play or maybe even rhythm guitar, hopefully. Even today, we kind of like were jamming with me playing drums. So either way, like I feel like again, we're all pretty multi-instrumental, but at least for paintings right now, definitely just doing vocals.
SPEAKER_02And producing.
SPEAKER_13Oh yeah, and just mixing engine yeah, just kind of doing that whole thing behind the scenes. Your turn.
SPEAKER_04I'm clay. I'm clay. I I joined the band. I joined the band as just the drummer. Now I play guitar and drum and I sing on a few songs, and that's pretty much it.
SPEAKER_03Uh I'm Max. I I when we started, I was playing like mostly guitar, um, and now I've kind of switched to like guitar and drums. I don't do vocals live, but on the EP I do some vocals here and there.
SPEAKER_02Uh maybe one day I'll do live vocals, but I'm Joe Long and I play the bass, and I solely play the bass.
SPEAKER_03Whoa. You should play more. Because I that's like the one thing with like this band that like Nate mentioned is like we're all kind of like producers and we play like a lot of instruments, like kind of like whatever, right? So and I feel like that's something that makes it like special. And uh I I think especially like after this EP, I want to like I I at least I I think it'd be cool to like do even more like experimentation and not not be like tied down to like the band the kind of structure that we have then. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07That makes sense. Uh that makes me think of Radiohead for Kid A. Um Tommy Rick just told everyone in the band, like, hey, none of you're gonna be playing the instruments that you normally play, we're gonna do something completely different, and then you're gonna learn to play something else for this album. And that was how they did it. And like that's the album was super electronic. Like it was all unfamiliar territory for all of them. Max, when did you start learning how to play guitar? Or what was your first instrument?
SPEAKER_03Uh well, okay, technically my first instrument was guitar, but I was like I was like eight years old or something, and my uh like older brother had guitar lessons that he didn't want to do, so like I was kind of just like put into it, but I wanted I wanted to play piano, and then I took some piano lessons when I was like 11, and I think that was like when I first like actually started playing music. Um, but even that like didn't like stick super well. I couple years later took lessons again with this person who was less of like they were piano lessons, but um she kind of introduced me to the idea of like just like connecting with music instead of like being like just like one instrument. Um and then but then again I it didn't like stick and then when I was 16 that's when I seriously got into guitar. I was like my that was like my first instrument that I was like practicing all the time on my own. I I guess I practiced some piano, but like yeah, guitar was when I really got into it.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I get that. Okay, is there a song that you've written recently or that you released on the EP that your 16-year-old self would be disappointed with? Disappointed with a good question.
SPEAKER_11That's actually like you and your question.
SPEAKER_03No, that is a good question. Honestly, I feel like my 16-year-old self would be disappointed with most of the music that would be. Um my mind has like opened up a lot. I guess not most of there's some songs that like my young self would be like, man, that's really cool, but yeah, like because we've gotten like noisier and like just weaker.
SPEAKER_11I wanna I wonder who's influencing that. It's clay. The answer is clay, always.
SPEAKER_04Um I don't know. I mean, when I joined the band, it was kind of I suppose a little more straightforward like rock music, but I I think I don't know if I necessarily influenced it in the sense that like I brought it solely to the band. I think Max already had like a lot of that DNA in him because I mean from the moment we met we kind of instantly connected on that kind of thing. Yeah, exactly. Like that, I think we were both like in agreement that we wanted to make stuff like that because I sent you Cyclops. Cyclops, yeah. I sent you a uh a clay cane invertebrate song before clay cane invertebrates was a thing. And I think you were like, Do you want to use this for paintings? And I was like, No, but I'm glad you like it.
SPEAKER_03I I don't think I I don't remember asking to use it for paint. I think I might have what I might have said is that like this is like the kind of music I always wanted to make.
SPEAKER_04So oh yeah, maybe.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I I might have said that I don't remember.
SPEAKER_04I don't know, it's hard to remember. I I remember I accidentally sent it to Eric before I was in the band, and he was like, Eric's our old, old bassist, by the way. And he was like, cool stuff, but you send it to the wrong person. I was like, oh, sorry. And then I was like, and then yeah, I think we we kind of connected on that. And and it wasn't, I think we were in like a weird um like sort of flux state as to what the band even was for the last little bit of excuse me, of having um our older members in the band because it was sort of this like push and pull of of us like sort of trying to make I think everything for all of our individual tastes. As much as I do love that era of my life and the band, I think it was they were all kind of it was it just I don't think we were fully bridging the gap.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_07I mean well it sounds really powerful. I mean just how you're describing the creation of the EP. Like it's like super collaborative. Yeah, uh I I think that's rare. I think a lot of times it's like just a person's like, this is what I'm thinking, and like everyone just needs to fall in line. So it's cool that you do that, especially bringing a singer in. Like I'd be like, Nate, you being the singer, I feel like that's a little bit surprising for a band to do, like to just like bring in a singer. Uh what's your history with singing?
SPEAKER_13Oh boy, um, so my mother is a vocal coach. I mean, she's been teaching voice and piano and songwriting my whole life. She's been doing that since she was about 20. So her whole whole career full of doing that. So I kind of got like I wouldn't say pushed into it but brought up in it. Yeah. Um constantly, you know, being a part of not even just voice, but piano. Um doing recital since I was little. Uh yeah. I've always been a singer, but never really like, hey, I'm a singer, you know. Um I feel that. Yeah. Recently, um moving to Fort Collins actually kind of projected me into the music that I knew I needed, like wanted to do, like, really, like, but um, yeah, thanks to Jolo for bringing me here. Um and I remember Joe was just mentioning, like, I think this was like months ago. This was before I even joined, but he was like, hey, paintings are gonna come over, we're gonna come listen to our EP. And I was like, that sounds cool, like, right.
SPEAKER_02And we just like Dude, going back even further, that was our other EP too. That was before we had any of our music. When Nate wasn't thinking about moving down, paintings had a show. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And Nate was like, shit, I'll come check it out.
SPEAKER_04And they watched us live at Lost Lake. At Lost Lake, and your bass broke at that show. Yeah, in the middle of the show, and Noah had to like Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Like a string broke or just like.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it was the bridge broke. It was the bridge. The bridge was like, I don't know, the saddle was like riding too low, and it was just like buzzing, and there was no sustain on the nose. So Noah like put his finger under the part of the bridge to like hold it up, and uh that worked, I suppose.
SPEAKER_13I don't think it worked, but I think he like played it off to where it's like I think it was a band aid.
SPEAKER_03And uh yeah, Noah was our uh singer before he was our first singer. He's he's awesome. He he just uh I love Noah. Yeah, me too.
SPEAKER_11Shout out Noah for missing, man. I have no idea where you are right now, but hoping he's living he's living in Denver.
SPEAKER_03He comes with um he has a girlfriend up here, so he like comes back and forth, but uh he moved to Denver and so it was great.
SPEAKER_07Joel had had you ever played bass in a band before?
SPEAKER_02No, this was actually like I bullshitted my way into this band like straight up. They made a post and they were like, we need a bassist. And honestly, I hadn't even really played the bass. I didn't even think the bass was important in like music. I wanted to join a band so bad that I was like, fuck it, I'll do it.
SPEAKER_07So is that how you include that?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, literally, I I rolled up to the shed and clay and max were sitting on a curb.
SPEAKER_03Because I I had seen your like um like your like influencer reels.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god, and I'd be like, if this song sucks, I'll give you five bucks.
SPEAKER_03And I was like I was impressed by like the confidence that that takes to like just like go out and do that. Oh my god, thank god I did that then. And like I remember you hit it hit it hitting us up and like uh just because I'd seen those, I was like, cool, like this suit seems like cool. And then uh yeah, I remember you like coming in, Jamie. I don't even did we even try out any other basics. I think we tried like one other basics. I don't think we tried anyone else. There I now that I think about it, there's like one person or so I don't know. You might have met with him on your own because it's yeah, I think I met with I was like, because I had to meet with I remember there's like this like metal dude, he was like I don't even remember um I do remember looking for the the drummer because that was that was interesting.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, how did how did you join Clay?
SPEAKER_04I was looking to join a band also because I didn't I hadn't been in a band in Fort Collins. And um Oh, I was on I was like going on Reddit. I don't know why I thought looking for a band on Reddit was the way. But Max was looking for a drummer on Reddit, and I Well I had too much. Yeah, we we met through Reddit and I hadn't it's weird because I'd actually heard of Paintings of Decay before. So I was like, okay, nice established band that you join. And then I don't know, I met Max like like April or something, in in April of like 2020. Is that 2023? Probably. Or four, no, it was twenty twenty four.
SPEAKER_03Wait, was it 2024? Wait, yeah, it's 2024.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. I met him in April of 2024, and then they I tried out. I I just met with Max because Eric and Noah couldn't be there, and I didn't get it. I didn't get in the band. What? We chose small.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god, that's Laura.
SPEAKER_04Holy shit! And then that guy wasn't and then that was maybe like, I don't know, I think April. I went I they had a show like in May, I think. May or June. No, it was it was May.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And I went to the show just because I wanted to like keep the connection up and not just like be like, okay, well, fuck this. I I'm not fuck these guys, whatever. Like, um, I went to their show. And I remember you being like excited to see me. Well, cause I was like, oh wow.
SPEAKER_03Cause like we went with another drummer at first, but uh the other drummer was I don't know if you know him, but Cohen from uh Spotted Bear. Spotted Bear, yeah. Um and he's like a nice guy, but so like Noah knew him like Eric knew him. They He had the Neppo. Yeah, no, he like yeah, he he knew uh more people in the band, and so like they wanted to go with him, but I remember like when I first told you that uh like we weren't gonna go with you, like I was still like I wanted to like keep meeting up. Yeah, keep meeting up. We did a few times.
SPEAKER_04Like we we met up a a couple times to just like jam.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. And um 'cause like yeah, because like I feel like we connected musically.
SPEAKER_11So you were in a situation ship turning the bag.
SPEAKER_04Cheating on me. Actually, he was cheating on the paintings. Then on July 4th, you were saying, would you still be interested in being in paintings? And I was like, yeah, for sure. I remember it's July 4th because I was at my dad's and I was like, oh.
SPEAKER_11So then you DTR'd, okay. Now you're married. Situation shift? Oh. Oh shit. It was like it was funny.
SPEAKER_04Uh I joined the band, well, you told me July 4th. July 7th is when I first rehearsed with you guys, and then my first show is July 14th.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04So I learned like what are like eight or nine songs in like a week. Yeah. And yeah. And I was like, I was, it was the most I've ever practiced ever at any point in my life for any musical project.
SPEAKER_03Really?
SPEAKER_04Yeah. I was listening to them to you guys so much. Yeah. Like on Spotify and and shit. And like you.
SPEAKER_13I was like me before you guys.
SPEAKER_04I was literally like non-stop listening to you, like trying to figure all the parts out. And I did it somehow.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, because I was.
SPEAKER_04We played at Globe Hall in Denver.
SPEAKER_03Because then Eric, like, we played a few shows together with Eric, our other bassists, and then that.
SPEAKER_04Up until uh September. Up until September is when he was. Uh September, yeah.
SPEAKER_07I don't want to interrupt. If you all have any questions, I don't want to step on that. So I I feel like I've been just great questions. No, please. Um dial it up. Well I'm curious what uh and this is for all of you. Um please answer it once, that'll be fun for Pager asking. Yeah. No, um what do you feel like what is this band trying to say?
SPEAKER_13Three, two, one.
SPEAKER_02We low key could, we low-key could. Like, like I think I know what the answer would be.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I think we all have different ideas of it.
SPEAKER_03We should I I'm I don't know, but I do, especially after conversations.
SPEAKER_04I get the idea that it's like our collective, like the four of us, or whoever's writing the song. I feel like it's our collective, like subconscious, like sort of like making whatever kind of um, I don't know, making kind of trying to make peace with like the outside world and what we what we like um love and hate about it.
SPEAKER_13Yeah, yeah, what we hate. We've been really discussing it.
SPEAKER_04And musically, I think what we're trying to do personally, I've always got the impression that we're just trying to like, I don't know, like air out what we what we have inside, I guess. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, like I mean music's always been like an outlet for me. So like it's it's the most, I think, like expressist expressionist and like free-minded, kind of like go in with no expectations project I'm a part of or have ever been in. Like I with my own band, I try, I'm very like, I think I have a lot of intent going into any given thing. And with Paul Mall Jesus, I it's like kind of like that too. But with this, it's a lot more just like I kind of just clear my mind and and go with my instincts a lot more. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I feel like it is that like kind of just like the project where you like it especially because like all or yeah, I guess all of us are in different um bands too. Like it it it's To me it feels like there's like just less pressure. It's just like kind of just like all about just like playing whatever music you're you're feeling at the at the time.
SPEAKER_02For me it's like uh it's almost like flexing like some sort of muscle. Cause like it's so different from what I've ever been like exposed to.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So like to like I don't know, go into every rehearsal or like writing session with like an open mind of like whatever we grab from the city.
SPEAKER_04I think despite it being sort of the core of all of my other musical things I've I've done in in this city, I think despite that it's it's sort of like the least predictable of any of the bands. Like I I kind of never really know what's gonna happen with it.
SPEAKER_02Which is sick because we can kind of do whatever.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. That's like kind of a lot of it. It's just like I think that's why like I don't even remember how a lot of the songs were written on the EP, because like we'll just jam a lot and like improvise, and then it'll be like, whoa, that's like kind of a cool song.
SPEAKER_04It's a mix of I I think the way a lot of it happened is kind of just like a very small idea or framework to build upon. We'll jam on it, we'll record the jam, and then we'll sort of pick out things we do and don't like, and then just kind of make a structure out of that. That's how it has been, but like I could think like even six months ago was pretty different.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we were kind of in a weird.
SPEAKER_04We weren't really writing a lot six months ago. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Six months ago it was only us three.
SPEAKER_03There's like a time frame where it was Although I I guess like I mean, a lot of the EP was or not maybe not a lot of it, but like I hate it here, which is the first song on the EP. What are the other songs you've been playing? Normal Indiana. Was normal Indiana before Nate joined. Yeah, it was.
SPEAKER_13I think B cause BL52 The only thing that we've written together with me involved was BL52.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, BL52.
SPEAKER_13And I guess I guess you can. But you contributed to all of them.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, because I just kind of like put lyrics on them because I've got to be able to do the oldest song we actually had with the original incarnation. Well, minus Alex, but yeah. Um like with our with our original um singer and bassist, one of the songs is from that era. Wake up. Uh Wake Up, yeah.
SPEAKER_13Yeah, damn. Um You guys have been playing Wake Up for years, it feels like. Yeah, you can really tell.
SPEAKER_03Um well yeah, cuz because we had another EP that we were uh working on with Noah, and then just like Noah ended up having like his life got crazy, so it just like we were waiting for him to do vocals, I think, or something, and it just never really had that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And then I was like, yo, I have a roommate.
SPEAKER_13It's funny, back to full circle, whenever that you guys came over and were listening, I was just kind of just hanging out and kind of just like riffing, singing, like, you know, like, oh, like, because there was no vocals on any of the tracks. Oh yeah. And I was just like, oh, this was sound, like, you know, like not really thinking anything of it. And then I remember Max was pretty like, uh, I don't know about this guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It took a little, a little time. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_13But over time I feel like we've grown into a band. Yeah. Yeah. Like and it sound the sound that we've created, at least from what I've seen, has been pretty epic.
SPEAKER_02Like, it's totally different. Yeah.
SPEAKER_13I and I'm and it's funny because I don't really know the history. So I'm constantly like, I'm learning stuff. You're learning the lore. I'm learning the lore in front of you guys, is what they're talking about. So it's kind of cool.
SPEAKER_02I'm curious to know what since you're the newest member of the band, like, what does this all mean to you? Like, what what do you think we're trying to say?
SPEAKER_13Yeah, it's a tough question to ask. I don't know. And that's the thing, like, it was hard for me to fit in, you know. Because I didn't know like what you guys expected out of me either. You know, because like hearing like what Clay was doing on Normal Indiana, it was like, how would my voice even translate to like your caliber of like emotion? You know what I mean? I don't know. And that's like it feels like I'm growing up, you know. Yeah, it feels like this last like six months that I've lived here, I feel like a completely different person. Um I mean you change your hair like every two weeks. Every two weeks. And then I'll it'll be like green tomorrow or something. No, but um I don't know. I'm just excited. I think that's the most thing is like I'm just really excited to see like what comes out of it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_13But also, like, I feel like a lot of our music right now is definitely like pertaining to what's going on in the world in like a very like subconscious, like very like, we don't even realize it, and then it kind of like it blooms itself like we were just talking about.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I think I think it'd be kinda it's it's like more personalized to us. Like it it's to me like I guess like like a like an inward take. I think that's kind of cool. I I think on the AP you get like like a like sort of like a smattering of all of our perspectives across like sort of what what what I think we all think is happening and how that like personally affects us.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, because it's like I mean, like uh like a lot of it is like just per from like a personal experience, and like that experience obviously exists in like the current events that are going on. And so, um like it's very much like an expression of that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, we're not making any definitive statements about the world, but really more about like ourselves in it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, like how it feels to like go through it, I guess. Um, but like yeah, like Nate, like as you said, like uh I I feel like it's kind of been the case with like all of our members that like we kind of just like bring them in, don't really give them direction. Yeah, and just let it bloom. We we usually do it like two weeks before a show, too. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Just to really make sure they're thrown in. I was done into the bushes, dude.
SPEAKER_03I feel like Nate especially because we we didn't really have like it was just like it was just like calm.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, we didn't show up. We didn't have any idea of what you would do.
SPEAKER_02No, no, no, dude. The first show Nate played. It was mostly like Nate just like looking at us from the crowd, like damn it.
SPEAKER_13Just time and like figuring out like it's also at a sorority. It was at a sorority with a bunch of parents.
SPEAKER_10Wait, what? What menu is like a backyard?
SPEAKER_13Oh, it was like a competition.
SPEAKER_04It was a battle of the bands.
SPEAKER_13Family night. That show was the first time me ever like doing like uh in a band or even performing or even singing, like, you know, like you went for it, bro. I just completely turned my switch off of being insecure and just shit.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, yeah, like to improvise and like be looking for cues. Yeah, there was no cues.
SPEAKER_13It was funny because it was out of frack because it felt like it was some like what's the word haze?
SPEAKER_03It felt like it was like we're like hazing.
SPEAKER_13Yeah, but and that's what Max said too. He's like, you're an embra or something like that.
SPEAKER_11Or like you don't get the chords yet.
SPEAKER_13That's for the next the night before I'm like, Max, can you like send me any lyrics for any of these songs or like anything? You're just like not bro, you gotta come up with it on the on the spot.
SPEAKER_07So impressive, I'm not doing this.
SPEAKER_13Yeah, and I was I was talking with Jolo, I was freaking out. I remember like a couple days before the show, I'm like, Jolo, like, what the fuck am I doing? Yeah, yeah. And Jo's like, What did you say? Smoke this cigarette. Yeah, shut up and smoke this cigarette. Which I'm really glad it I'm really glad I like decided just to say fuck it, you know, yeah. Let's do it. Now I'm really excited about what's to come, like, and also like I'm just really excited for the release of like our project. Dude, yeah, the the it sounds really awesome.
SPEAKER_03He he mixed it and he did a really good job. Thank you. And he he also took on the burden of like you know, when you are mixing your own music and you just like listen to it.
SPEAKER_13Oh, it's heard that resong a hundred times.
SPEAKER_03Oh, the skeleton meme of like yeah, and then it's like like I don't even know if this is good anymore. I don't even know what I'm listening to anymore. He took that on, so I don't know. Some days you like it, some days you hate it.
SPEAKER_13I listened to it again. I honestly have been to I took a break probably since like two weeks ago, and today I re-listened to it and I cried in the car and was like, This is sick, this is dope.
SPEAKER_11Oh shit, you said we were happy with it, you didn't come back and be like, ah, you cried because it was so terrible. That's awesome.
SPEAKER_04God, I fucking hate this.
SPEAKER_13I let my emotions just run through and just that's exciting.
SPEAKER_07Especially that two-week test. Like, yeah, you really give it space and be like, this is pretty good.
SPEAKER_04Like, I do like day tests when I'm trying out amazing. I couldn't. I just do that and I come back and like is it dog? Yeah, what the fuck?
SPEAKER_13Which I had done, I did that with our project like for a while. It would be like, oh, it sounds great, and the next day, like, oh fuck, oh fuck, dude, any creative project.
SPEAKER_10Dude, like the longer you listen to shit, like your ears get like fucked up.
SPEAKER_04Like it starts to lose like the you start to forget why you wrote it in the first place.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Yeah. But I'm just saying about like the EP, like it's I'm really proud of it.
SPEAKER_04And it's it's it's weird to think that for as long as I've been in the band, I we've put out one thing with me in the band. Which is crazy.
SPEAKER_02We wrote like the most music Calconius and Ledwenia. Oh, yeah, Ledwenia. Which is a great song.
SPEAKER_03Great song that both Calconius and La Duena were when I mixed it. And at that point I was so burned out of like the like production side that I was.
SPEAKER_04I think that was a weird era for the band too, because like I said, we were kind of like sorta really trying to redefine and like figure out what we were all about. It was a transitional phase, I think, between I mean, honestly, since having me in the band to where we are where we are now, because I I think without with with the original lineup with just you and Alex and Eric and Noah, it was like you you were one thing, and then all this kind of course of time it was like slowly becoming something else. Yeah. And um that's what that era I think of almost as like a like a sort of a big area of like reconstruction.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Because we when uh when wait, that was when Eric was on the band when we started. We were writing, um like we would meet up like a couple times a week in the morning because we had more time at the time, but uh, and we'd like write a new thing every day. We had like two demos. More, obviously, like close to 50, actually. They're all on my laptop. Yeah. Um, but like we kind of were suffering from like the like too many demos to finish. Yeah, we would like start one. Sometimes we'd finish it, but even if we did, we would be like, yeah, whatever. Yeah, you like lose your um, you know, lose focus or whatever. And they're all on my laptop, and uh one day I uh accidentally like drove on the highway with my my laptop on my on the roof of my car.
SPEAKER_04Oh my god, I never even heard this story. Wait, it was on top of your car.
SPEAKER_02And you got onto the highway somehow.
SPEAKER_04We just like went off on the side. I was I was behind. You saw it?
SPEAKER_03What's crazy, because I was like trying to think of the timeline, but I was like, mad, mad, match, and I was like, save the day.
SPEAKER_04I still had it, I just never told you.
SPEAKER_03I I I don't know if that's what happened, but I that one day I was driving, I left my house, and there's like a dip in the road, and like I my car like went on the dip, and I heard like a loud bang. I had stuff in my trunk anyways, and so I was like, whatever. And then I remember being on the highway, and then I thought like a piece of paper flew off the top of my car. It didn't hit anyone, luckily, like it could have been bad. Flew off and it landed on the side of the highway, and like I saw it in my rear view mirror. I was like, oh, that's weird. And then like that night or something, I was like looking for my laptop.
SPEAKER_13That sucked so bad. Oh, yeah, that was like that happened to me. That's like big biggest fear, bro. That was my sad about that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that kind of happened to me once when I was yeah, younger, when I was like 19 or 20. I had like years worth of every song I'd ever made. And and like I for I don't even know what happened. Like, I think I uh like I had an SD card with all of it and it got corrupted and it was just gone forever.
SPEAKER_03Dude, it teaches it. It is a learning experience. And it teaches you to like let go of your attachment. Honestly, yeah, backups.
SPEAKER_04It it makes you like it makes you like review like how how we you've been like, it makes you like kind of think differently about like restarting and doing like shit over.
SPEAKER_07What happened when with you?
SPEAKER_13Um, so I cracked FL Studio, I cracked like a bunch of different you know, plugins, VSTs that obviously like there were thousands of dollars. Like in in a block of all of them, like I would never be able to afford that. But I wanted all the good stuff because I was making like trap beats online.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_13And like honestly, the the beats that I made were like so amazing, and they're all in my email still, thank god, because that's how I would listen to them in the car, I would just send them to my email. Like all like the you know, like the the whole, what do you call it? The the like the the stems of it all. Yeah, just completely and all the like the cute songs that I wrote, and like you know, the really shitty rap songs that I wrote, and all the like the great like friends like come over and make like stupid songs and stuff. Yeah, it was just all gone, it was all corrupted. And then I ended up deleting the whole laptop and I gave it to my mother, and then I got a new laptop, and that's just the same laptop I had today. So, and that was in high school, so like senior year of high school.
SPEAKER_04I I had the same laptop from high school too, which is crazy.
SPEAKER_07I had a dinosaur stuff saved on Dropbox and I had like a new computer, and I didn't realize that the Dropbox was like downloading everything onto it, like the computer didn't have enough space. So I just was like, oh fuck, so I just deleted it and then like didn't really think about it, and then restored it on a different computer and was like, oh yeah, this is fine. And then like six months later was like trying to open somebody's files, and I'm like, oh my god. Where is everything? And like realized, like, holy shit, like seven years of work is just gone.
SPEAKER_13Oh, but I will say the the really fun thing about that was all of those stems were gone, everything was gone. So all I had was like MP3, like a wave files. So I would go back and sample. Oh, that's actually a really good thing and it turned into like a new, new, like kind of like era almost. In like, you know, I don't know.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we do we do have those recordings, which uh luckily I have all the which this is reminding me that I should get a physical hard drive. Seriously, all of my stuff from the fucking terabyte backup hard drive.
SPEAKER_07I think there's something to losing everything though, yeah. It's like really valuable because it was like, okay, well, I could give up.
SPEAKER_04I can remake those songs better.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, I feel like there's a process to that. You have to go through all five stages of grief when you're doing it.
SPEAKER_13Yeah, I didn't make it so like you can't even look at the computer.
SPEAKER_11You're just like, no, no.
SPEAKER_13No, I was like that for one. I was heartbroken.
SPEAKER_06Are there rules around our candy? I feel like every time you bring out more candy, it just encourages everyone to do that.
SPEAKER_04I've had that before. You've had that before, maybe. I I like I like uh I like it. There's really no rules. I want whatever the most sour thing is.
SPEAKER_11You can sour. Okay. Spicy.
SPEAKER_04I don't want none of that spicy.
SPEAKER_11This one is concerning.
SPEAKER_04I've had this before too, actually. You have? Yeah, the kid eye nanny got one of some of these before.
SPEAKER_11So we got uh Alamo Candy, gummy and bloody bears. What the concerning? It's it feels very wet. Uh we got some super lemon candy.
SPEAKER_13That's not sour. I'll try anything.
SPEAKER_11We've got the wily wallaby huckleberry licorice something.
SPEAKER_04I have some of that in my house.
SPEAKER_07Shout out Rocket Fizz.
SPEAKER_04Oh my god. Yes.
SPEAKER_11Um, sponsor us, please, Rocket Fizz. Thank you so much. Um, Kit Kat uh apple pie flavored.
SPEAKER_04I love that pizza. Yeah, I don't know about that.
SPEAKER_11Uh pulpurinds, tampook candy.
SPEAKER_04I don't want to enjoy myself.
SPEAKER_11Honestly, white rabbit creamy candy.
SPEAKER_04That looks good.
SPEAKER_11And then we have Frank's Red Hot spicy gummy bear.
SPEAKER_03Why why is the podcast called Chaos Agent?
SPEAKER_01Canadian little Uno reverse gummy bird.
SPEAKER_11Okay, this is gonna get a little complicated, but so I'm like kind of into like weird. I'm I'm into like quantum shit, like quantum physics shit.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_11And I feel like so chaos agents, I feel, are people who tend to do like long probability things in their life. They just do the weird things and then it like jot they like get slotted into weird timelines. And so and so then I bring people who I feel are fellow chaos agents of like yours.
SPEAKER_12Good idea.
SPEAKER_04I I love that name. Isn't it like the sourist thing ever movie map? You gave me after I did my podcast, you you gave me like oh we don't need to like go. Max already went forward.
SPEAKER_11And we have a rating system, by the way, out of five bing bongs.
SPEAKER_02Five bing bonds.
SPEAKER_11So bing generally. Cheers, cheers. Oh god.
SPEAKER_12It kind of creeped up on you.
SPEAKER_11Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_12That's not bad.
SPEAKER_11That's fucking dope.
SPEAKER_03I like the like feel it like here.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, yeah, it makes your masters just masters.
SPEAKER_13I call my mom calls it the tweakers. My tweakers can't say that.
SPEAKER_12Can't say that, bro. Wait, tweakers? I'm just kidding.
SPEAKER_13You guys are fucking.
SPEAKER_12That wasn't that bad. No kidding. It's kind of good now.
SPEAKER_11That's a problem, like it never lasts long enough.
SPEAKER_04Those ones you gave me though, like there was one you gave me outrated in my podcast that was like, I don't even know what they were doing.
SPEAKER_11Toxic waste, maybe?
SPEAKER_04No, they were like pickle or something. Those were and it just didn't end. No, those were fucking like like foul.
SPEAKER_11I'll just throw this out here, but the guppers, this one.
SPEAKER_04What is it? Okay.
SPEAKER_11It is reportedly chocolate like caramel, but it is not. It just tastes like bathroom cleaner if you it's it's sin in candy form. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Is that like should we just should we try it or like well Max edit?
SPEAKER_02Max said we should try and let's try it.
SPEAKER_11We can save that one for less. We could do like so Max, your call, what do you think?
SPEAKER_12Wait, rating it.
SPEAKER_11That's that's beautiful.
SPEAKER_02Frog, yeah. I like the table. Obviously, the packaging makes that. Yeah, this is giving it a little bit. I'm saving my five. You can save mine for a little bit.
SPEAKER_03It's your classic, like sour than sweet hard candy.
SPEAKER_02Classic. Yeah.
SPEAKER_09Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Alright, what's the next one? Apple pie cake cat, please. Um that one looks well. We're doing it. Oh, okay, okay. I've been eyeing that one.
SPEAKER_09The apple pie cake at the end.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I'll split one with you.
SPEAKER_13I'm taking the whole thing, man.
SPEAKER_04I don't know if I want a whole one, honestly.
SPEAKER_13Oh, it's white. Wait, white split white.
SPEAKER_12Oh, oh. It's creamy.
SPEAKER_03White and creamy.
SPEAKER_02Oh, we're going. Oh, it smells super.
SPEAKER_13It smells like Halloween. Mmm. It smells like a candle, like candle. It tastes like. It's pretty good, actually, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Amelia would love this.
SPEAKER_10Like fruity, like white chocolate?
SPEAKER_04It doesn't really taste like apple pie, but it's pretty good. I still have the lemon, so it's a good one.
SPEAKER_07I thought that looks pretty good. It's five bing bong. It's pretty good. This is like if I went into um a candle store and like took a bite. The vanilla. It kind of looks like one too. Three bing bungs.
SPEAKER_03It's a five for me. I'm gonna be honest. That's like a two to me. I mean, two on the scale of like it's still candy and I I would I would eat it, but not my free choice.
SPEAKER_04Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's like yeah.
SPEAKER_13Like a seasonal Yeah, it's very seasonal.
SPEAKER_04It tastes like October.
SPEAKER_11It's like crack pumpkin spice.
SPEAKER_13Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And it is a Halloween.
SPEAKER_11Okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04That was good.
SPEAKER_11I mean, I I'm getting a little apple pie. Like vegan.
SPEAKER_04It tastes like apples, but like I don't know if that qualifies as pie.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Frankly.
SPEAKER_05Frankly.
SPEAKER_04I'm gonna be frank. I mean, you can still be Max, but I'm gonna be frank.
SPEAKER_11Speaking of Frank. Yeah, should we try it?
SPEAKER_13Should we try the spicy one?
SPEAKER_11I love one.
SPEAKER_12Are they all different?
SPEAKER_08Yeah, they're all different. Sweet, spicy, salty, fruity.
SPEAKER_04I'm just gonna close our eyes and go for it. Which one's spicy? Are they all spicy?
SPEAKER_07Okay. Oh, cherry, pineapple, mango, strawberry, orange, and lemon. That doesn't help at all.
SPEAKER_13They're all probably spicy.
SPEAKER_04I don't want the salty one.
SPEAKER_07Well, you're just gonna have to guess. Would you like a food freaking podcast?
SPEAKER_11This smells like cherry to me, too.
SPEAKER_07Salty candy. Yeah, I'm with you. I don't think. Are we gonna try that?
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_09Okay, cheers. Wait, wait. We got the green one. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_02I got the lemon one. Spicy gummy bears. Cheers. Cheers.
SPEAKER_11I cheated already half my. Oh, it's spicy.
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah, mine spicy.
SPEAKER_11Ugh. This is like hot sauce, gummy.
SPEAKER_07I mean, this rank's red hot.
SPEAKER_12That'll do it. Actually? It's like a weird space. It was pretty good, actually.
SPEAKER_04Honestly, like.
SPEAKER_11I'm not mad about it.
SPEAKER_04I wonder if you'd gotta like it. It was four spices. Do you guys remember the spicy Skittles and spicy Starbirds they used to have? They had like the black packaging. They were pretty good. That was pretty good, actually.
SPEAKER_11Oh, that does not go to the bottom. It wasn't very spicy.
SPEAKER_03I'll go three and a half. Actually, for what it is. The spice feels like it's like not like chemical. There's like no like substance to it. Yeah, it's just like sweet, and then also my turns a little bit amino one.
SPEAKER_02Damn, the seconds. I mean the other one.
SPEAKER_11Can we just gaslight ourselves into liking? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh shit. Can we try these pulp ones? The pulp.
SPEAKER_11The tamarind. I feel like we've had these before and you or you hated them so passionately.
SPEAKER_02Don't carry it, I don't remember. What are they? Tamarind? Tamarind. Is that either spicy? For solidarity. Tamarin? What is it? I have no idea. You mean tamin?
SPEAKER_09It's like a little orange odd that like. I want to say it's like in Thai food.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Dude, what the fuck? Um I might hate this.
SPEAKER_13Oh, it's Pauperine. It's like, isn't that like Louisiana? Popurine?
SPEAKER_09No. Yeah, it's Louisiana. It's definitely Louisiana.
SPEAKER_02Cheers.
SPEAKER_09Oh, chili.
SPEAKER_02Oh. How long do these?
SPEAKER_12Oh god. It's like Mexican candy.
SPEAKER_11Oh.
SPEAKER_12No. No, I do.
SPEAKER_11I hate this now. I agree.
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_13Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_11I'm on Elijah's T.
SPEAKER_13I actually really like this.
SPEAKER_04Mama birded. Honestly, I will say the more I eat it, the better it is.
SPEAKER_06That's true.
SPEAKER_13It's probably like it's like the Mexican candy type of thing. It is Mexican.
SPEAKER_03Honestly, that's not even that bad. No, it's like got some like chili chili powder on it.
SPEAKER_02It tastes like you grabbed a piece of gum and put it like on the beach and then like wrapped it around.
SPEAKER_03I don't I don't know if I would I don't want any more, but no.
SPEAKER_11Okay.
SPEAKER_02One big bounce.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, that's gonna be a two. Yeah, I'll say two. I'll do a four. I'm like in alignment with clay on the palettes. I feel like we've had the same.
SPEAKER_04That's not very good. I'll do that at two. I like that.
SPEAKER_11That makes me a little sad.
SPEAKER_04It's not nearly as when I first took a bite into it, I was like, oh my god, this is fucking I want to spit this out.
SPEAKER_11Can we do like something nice now?
SPEAKER_04Creamy, radish. Dude, those Huckleberry uh licor licorice are really, really good. Okay, let's let's get it. My dad got me a bag of those from last Christmas.
SPEAKER_03Dude, there's something about the texture of like licorice that it's just so satisfying.
SPEAKER_11I love I love black.
SPEAKER_04Chicorice. I can't say chicfish. Sigorish does sound like a slur.
SPEAKER_11It does.
SPEAKER_04Oh, these are huge.
SPEAKER_11Wow, these are tickles.
SPEAKER_03You should deliver these at onwards and stuff. What's your most uh controversy not? What's your most cancel worthy uh where do I begin?
SPEAKER_02Oh, okay, we're cheers.
SPEAKER_04I've had this before.
SPEAKER_12Oh yeah. Easy. This is good. Simple, simple too. This is a five for me.
SPEAKER_03I like that though.
SPEAKER_11But it's nice.
SPEAKER_03I'm a bit of a licorice snob, so I would give it a three, too. I'd agree.
SPEAKER_11Do you like carbo licorice wheels?
SPEAKER_12Do you like black licorice?
SPEAKER_04I do like black licorice. I used to not, but I've come around with the growing up. I like those batteries that come in like a paper bag.
SPEAKER_03I don't remember the brand, but twizzlers.
SPEAKER_07No.
SPEAKER_13Red vines or twizzlers?
SPEAKER_07Red vines.
SPEAKER_13I don't know. I like twizzlers better, but I used to love red vines and then I got sick one time and I can't remember.
SPEAKER_04I like the texture of red vines.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_11It tastes like a vape.
SPEAKER_13It does. Blackberry Bieber's geek bar. It's huckleberry. Wait, literally is it blackberry? Huckleberry, uh.
SPEAKER_04Like fin.
SPEAKER_13Huckleberry.
SPEAKER_11Okay. Do we want to do like two more and then like I've been eyeing those creamy rabbits?
SPEAKER_13Creamy candy.
SPEAKER_11It like, it's giving like hallucinogen just because it's white rabbit.
SPEAKER_03You don't want to eat the squinkle. I know I won't.
SPEAKER_11It's also getty.
SPEAKER_03Oh. Oh, it's soft.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_11This one I got off Amazon, by the way.
SPEAKER_02It's a mango. Amazon sponsor.
SPEAKER_05I don't want to eat chilling.
SPEAKER_13Bezos. Bezos don't sponsor us. Sponsor?
SPEAKER_02Definitely. Dude, any candy that has this weird wrapping.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, the rice paper. I feel like I get the impression you have tastes like those tootsie rolls. Like those vanilla tootsie rolls.
SPEAKER_12I've had these candies before.
SPEAKER_10You've had that?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's like a rice, like a rice paper.
SPEAKER_13Wait, am I supposed to eat the coating around it?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's got that rice paper.
SPEAKER_13I feel like I'm gonna love this one.
SPEAKER_01Oh, it's so hard.
SPEAKER_02That's not creamy at all.
SPEAKER_12Oh no.
SPEAKER_11Are you serious? Oh okay, I'm okay.
SPEAKER_04Are they meant to be this hard or do you think they're a little like I don't think they're meant to be this hard?
SPEAKER_02Oh, I've had this before.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, like see, you might have it's a rice candy.
SPEAKER_01You probably got it as a rice candy. You're people. Your people love it. I did not mean it that we had a lot of things.
SPEAKER_12I did not mean it like that. I like it.
SPEAKER_01I like it.
SPEAKER_12It's kind of milky.
SPEAKER_01You would like it.
SPEAKER_12Actually, it's ruining it for me. Like the technology. I love it, bro.
SPEAKER_04It's a little too like tough.
SPEAKER_12But it's so tough. Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_04Even once it's broken down, it's like I'm chewing on rubber.
SPEAKER_12Yeah, it feels like I'm not supposed to eat it. Yeah, it feels chemically.
SPEAKER_04But I like the taste.
SPEAKER_12It's very milky. Me too. Like immediately I was like, uh.
SPEAKER_11It does taste one like one of those white Tootsie rolls.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it literally tastes like that.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Which are which are the worst ones it is?
SPEAKER_02I have to swallow it like that.
SPEAKER_11But now I need jaw surgery, so.
SPEAKER_13No, you guys swallow it like that one guy, uh, what's his name? Bivo.
SPEAKER_05Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_12No. And then he's like he takes up one bite. Dude, have you seen it now? Have you seen it now? He looks totally.
SPEAKER_04He got veneer facelift. He got veneers, but he looks like a fucking monster. Now he's really chilling.
SPEAKER_02Oh like no chew. No chew needed. No chew.
SPEAKER_13He like blew up, did porn for like two months. And then now he's like, he kind of looks like the type of how do you know all this Bebo lore?
SPEAKER_12I don't know. I think I like some TikTok scrolls.
SPEAKER_04I'll like me scrolling and I'll see him on with like a fork with like the reddest sausage ever. It's the red sausage. And he's like, nog chimnated, you know how it is. You know how it goes? You can see like the lump go down his throat. He doesn't even react, he's like a big Yeah, I was still like what people can get famous for.
SPEAKER_07Seriously, Bo man.
SPEAKER_03Dude, he locked himself into like what? I like it.
SPEAKER_13He like you see his whole body like two months. He like had sex with Bonnie Blue, I think. What?
SPEAKER_12Yeah, that's how I discovered it. Who's that? I don't either. No idea. Is that like one of the I don't know? Yeah, who's Bonnie Blue, bro? Actually, I don't know who that is.
SPEAKER_03No, I all these kids in high school. There's one person who's famous for like having sex with like a thousand men.
SPEAKER_11And they're all like 18 or like like Wait, really? Yeah, like she's like a like she targets like young guys and they align up. It's not great.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's not good.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's the chaos and the chaos.
SPEAKER_04It'll see like a weird, like ambient drum like a Sun O song. Okay.
SPEAKER_11I'll catch you on the next one. Bye bye. Yeah.