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Baseball fans and baseball lovers, good day. Thank you for joining us again for another episode of the MLB Clubhouse with the Jimmies. We are here to talk about some really, really good baseball this weekend. Had a lot of fun watching a lot of games, not gonna lie. I was deep into the Pirates series this weekend with Connor Griffin making his uh Major League debut and the fact that me and Preston are both closet pirate fans. Um we were uh we were all over the Baltimore and Pittsburgh series. We'll talk a little bit about our Rangers. We're gonna talk some ABS today and see uh see how the Jimmies feel about it, see if it's uh good for the game of baseball or or if they like it the old timey way. Um so we'll see how it goes. Let's get into it. First and foremost, guys, how was your Easter? We did a little cooking out on the grill yesterday. How about y'all?
SPEAKER_01I worked and then I came home and I worked some more.
SPEAKER_03That sucks. I thought you said your Easter was good. I worked, but at least I got to come home and grill some meats, and Jessica and all um 20 of her brothers and sisters were over here, and all the kids and all that. So I had a house.
SPEAKER_01So when you say uh you grilled some meats, you mean you grilled a side of beef? Yeah, half cow to be able to feed everybody.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. How about you, Slade? It was good. So yesterday was actually my father-in-law's 69th birthday. Nice, right? Yeah, so but the way that work schedules worked out, we did Easter and his birthday on Saturday. Cookout, surprise, surprise at a Mexican family. We cooked out fajitas, played some uh pretty gnarly games of volleyball with the whole family. And then yesterday, yeah, I went to my folks, uh, grilled some burgers and steaks, watched the Rangers lose two to one, which we are winning right now at. So we'll see what happens. But family, friends, food. It was good to oh, and uh had the first couple brews I've had in 44 days over the weekend, too. So by a couple, if anyone who knows me knows that uh my couple is a little different than your couple, so that was fun as well. Couple on 12 packs, right?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Couple of what exactly? Well, good deal. Um, yeah, a lot of fun, good weekend. Um, let's get into a little American league, fellas. We'll start off with our Cardinals Pops playing Detroit. Um, they started off the year hot, but they ended up losing two out of three to the T-Grays. Toronto visits the South Side of Chicago, and the White Sox take two out of three from the uh almost World Series champions. The fish visit the Yanks, and the Yankees make it two out of three, but the Yankees bullpen and the fish hitters made it pretty interesting. Miami's looking like a really fun team so far this season. San Diego at the Boston Red Sox, and the Fathers take two out of three. We already talked about it. Cincinnati came to Texas and ended up sweeping the set from our boys. The the Cubbies uh lose two out of three to the Cleveland Guard Dogs. The Cubbies have not had a good year so far. We'll talk a little bit more about some injury stuff later. Tampa Bay and Minnesota, the Rays take two out of three because the Twins are the Twins. We are right on point with our predictions for them, fellas. Uh, Milwaukee and Kansas City, the Brew Crew take two out of three. The Halos are playing some pretty good baseball. They're actually pitching this year so far. Uh, they take two out of three, and Joey Dell catches three out of three as he robbed three home runs in one game on Saturday night. All of which, by the way, would have tied the game uh because it was one to nothing uh victory. Uh and Trout also getting his hand looked at. I don't know if y'all saw that. He got hit in the hand, uh um little beanball right on the top of the hand. He's got that padding up there, but he he had to get that looked at. So um he was actually playing some really solid balls, so we'll see how that affects the halos. I'd hate to see Mike Trout get hurt because he was looking like the real deal again this year. Um, and then Houston at the not Sacramento Athletics. And uh green and yellow take two out of three from the Houston Astros. 11 to 4 in game one, the Athletics took it. 11 to nothing game two, the Astros took it. And then game three was 12 to 10 athletics in 10 innings. Tell me that playing in a minor league ballpark does not help your offense. All right, that's all I got for the American League. Slay dude, you got some standings for us?
SPEAKER_00Yes, absolutely. So I am doing American League, right? You are, yes. Because before we got on this, pop seemed like he was blindsided by it.
SPEAKER_03So even though I send the notes out.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, just so you know, you never I don't want to be that guy, but the White Sox actually swept the Blue Jays. It was not a two out of three, it was a full-on sweep, it was a three-game sweep. Was it the Sea Rockies took two out of three from them from the Jays. So the so the blue Toronto Blue Jays lost five out of six to the Rockies and the White Sox.
SPEAKER_00My goodness, how about that?
SPEAKER_03Well, that's good information, but I need to check my notes. Yeah, go ahead, Slate dude with some standings. White Sox five to four. White Sox six to three. White Sox three to nothing. Nice, Pops. You are correct. I wrote my notes down incorrectly. Oh, I don't know. It was delivered to me here.
SPEAKER_00All right, here we go.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you're right, Pops. The the White Sox take three out of three, not two out of three.
SPEAKER_00So surprise, surprise, not really. Stankies out there in the East at seven and two by far, right now. Well, the best record in the American League, I was gonna say, close to the best record in baseball, but I guess the Dodgers have something to say about that. We'll let Pops get into that. Uh, real strong pitching. They did finally drop one to the Marlins on Sunday night baseball. They're off today, but they took two out of three from them, helping the Rangers out by taking two out of three from Seattle as well. Seattle having a little bit of the Ranger syndrome as far as not hitting the ball, but obviously their pitching is really, really good. Yeah, but uh no surprise, surprise out in the you know, early, early, but Tampa Bay right there, 500 team. You know, this is a team we always talk about that, and I think they're still playing in Steinbrenner Stadium, aren't they? Pops? Is Tropicana ready yet?
SPEAKER_01Nope. So I think they're gonna be in Steinbrenner all year again.
SPEAKER_00Unbelievable. They don't have a home stadium, even when they do, they have playoff games there and they have to put tarps on the top level because they still can't sell it out, but that's okay. And then you got everybody except for Boston, Josh. I don't know. Was it who picked them? Was it you or was it Pops? I know.
SPEAKER_01I believe it was me. I believe I picked them to win the division. Super duper. I'm sure I made them pick them play them be in the playoffs.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, super duper early, but let's just go ahead and say that, yeah, that's a big surprise. Boston coming two and eight, and Pops with the great insight there. They went one and five against two of the worst teams in all of baseball last year. Are your defending American League champs, the Toronto Blue Jays and the Central? We talk about it. It says uh looking a heck of a lot like through a week and a half. What it looked like a lot for most of the season last year. A bunch of teams upper around 500, one team over 500. It's that Cleveland team led by the only two players we know. Right? So and Steven Kwan, but they're all right.
SPEAKER_03I will say Chase DeLauder by the end of the season.
SPEAKER_00But Cleveland always hangs around, Josh. You always kind of back me up on that one saying we don't know how, we don't know why, but they're always in the tops when you're coming to September, right? When it's time to play October baseball. Out west, after a good, good start by our Rangers, we got swept, like you said, by Cincinnati. You know, Cincinnati does have a great pitching staff, and Sunday was probably the first or maybe second game all year where I actually got to watch wire to wire, and I think it was Burns for them, was just unbelievable. And they had just a really good pitching staff. But, you know, Rangers obviously have some things to find uh figure out, especially on the back end of that bullpen. However, Garcia in the eighth had a clean one, two, three inning, so that's nice. But they got a lot of things to figure out. We'll see. Houston, after a super hot start, has cooled down a little. Same as the Central. They're the only team right now above 500 in the West. However, they are losing to the Red Hot Colorado Rockies, 8-3 in the top of the sixth right now. So hopefully the Rockies and the White Sox get all these wins out of their system before they play the Rangers. But again, everyone kind of hovering around, LA in that five and five mark. Uh, the rest of us right around there, except for the not Oakland, not Sacramento A's. But it's early. No one's really running away from it. And anyone in the American League, I can say, except for really the Yankees that only have two losses right now. No surprise there. A lot of baseball left, but it's still fun to watch the standings right now.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and they those Yankees have been pitching their butts off. Those starts Schlitler and Max Fried have been absolutely amazing. Will Warren, um, they've all looked pretty good, but the bullpen is the shaky part, right? Like it would have the fish could have very easily taken two out of three, and and they they nearly did. Um, Bednar was able to shut them down, I think, with either the bases loaded or or two runners on, and it was a one-run game on on Saturday. Um so the bullpen is exactly kind of what we thought it was gonna be, but the starting pitching and obviously their offense um has been getting it done. So, not a whole lot you can say about that.
SPEAKER_01Um, I believe uh Freed and Schlittler have both yet to allow an earned run or any run for that matter this this year.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I think Freed allowed allowed, I don't remember if it was earned or not. I think Freed allowed one to the fish over the weekend, but yeah, um it's been they've been unbelievable. Um, they're the those two guys specifically. Um, yeah, the guard dogs, man. I don't, they're just they're gonna freaking do it, you know. They're gonna find a way to win there. Um, Detroit's been kind of utterly disappointing so far at four and five. Um, they can't even win on Scooba Day, Boston couldn't even win on crochet day. Um, Alex Corps is already having to ask what uh answer questions about it, you know. Um, but it's still way, way early. You know what I mean? Seattle. Uh I guess those are the big surprises for me. Boston, Detroit, Seattle. Uh Cal Raleigh, I still don't think he's hit a homer. Um he did tonight. Oh, okay. There we go.
SPEAKER_01First turning off of Degram.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00The only run de Grom gave up. I mean, kind of the same thing he's had it this year, too. A little home run problem, but shit, it's still two to one right now. But it was a it was a 12-pick grinded out at bat. So if someone was gonna have to win, if it's not gonna be a strikeout, might as well leave the yard if you hit 60 home runs last year for your first one of the year.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I will say Seattle, Donovan's on the shelf right now. He's listed his day-to-day, so it doesn't sound like anything serious. But uh, I'm sorry, but if Cal Raleigh's not at the bare minimum what he was in 2024, uh, you know, where he was 35 homers and 100 RBIs, um, I'm like, I gotta be out on Seattle. I mean, he completely carries that offense, even though you've got guys like Donovan and Naylor in there. Raleigh's the the dumper. And if the dumper's not dumping him in the seats, I just I don't I don't see it uh going very well for Seattle this year. So um anything else you guys got for the American League? Are y'all ready to move on to the National League? That's rock. To the NA pretty short everything was in the in the American League home stadiums this week. So we'll start it off at the ATL and Arizona. Um, the snakes and the Braves split the four-game set. Um, New York Mets at San Francisco also had a four-game series, um, and the Mets end up taking three out of four, but he ended up having to get an MRI on his calf. Uh, so we'll see how that goes. Did y'all hear anything about that today? About Soto's results?
SPEAKER_00No, I have not.
SPEAKER_03Um, so we'll see how that goes. Honestly, that's kind of like the Cal Raleigh deal of Soto's out. I know the Mets still have some other good players, but if Soto's down, uh, so are the Mets. Um, he's just uh a different level ball player. Um, so I don't know how far they'll go if he's out for an extended period of time. Um, the Philadelphia Phillies and the Colorado Rockies, the Phillies take two out of three. Um, Baltimore and my Pirates, and the Pirates sweep the set. Connor Griffin made his in-major league debut on Friday. I made sure uh I watched that and uh had a good first game. Um, ended up going like one for three with an RBI double. Um, but I'm telling you guys, that was their home opener also. That guy filled up the seats um and uh got a standing 0 when he could when he came up to the plate every time he made a play out in the out in the infield. I mean, he was like he's he's gonna be selling some tickets for the pirates. So we're gonna get into him a little bit um after we go over the national league. But uh yeah, the pirates end up sweeping Baltimore and Ryan O'Hearn just getting it done. Um, nice two-year pickup uh in the offseason uh for Pittsburgh there. Brandon Lau has also been getting it done for them. So um they're starting to hit a little bit. And uh with that pitching staff, all you need is a little bit, and they're they could go a long way. We'll get into the standings and see where they sit here in a minute. Last but certainly not least, uh the LA Dodgers sweep the Nationals, uh, but that's pretty obvious. So, Pops, what do you got in the National League standings?
SPEAKER_01So, you know, it's interesting. So last year uh the American League kind of was by far the better, you know, up and down seemed to have the better the better teams, and this year it's kind of kind of flip-flopped. You got in in the east, it's a three-team race right now, it's six and four, Mets, Marlins, and Braves, Philly's half a game behind, and the Nationals two games behind. Um, so you know, I think the Braves, the cloud over the Braves maybe lifted a little bit because they're uh over over 500. What kind of club? Cloud. What kind? The dark cloud.
SPEAKER_00Oh, shit club, yeah. Did that remind you of uh Kingpin when you like gotta get out of here? There's a huge cloud of oh shit, oh my god, a shit cloud.
SPEAKER_01All right, sorry, anyways. Uh no, no worries. So uh, you know, and then uh the the the the brewers uh in the central go over to the central. The brewers uh are right there with the Dodgers as far as the best best record in baseball at eight and eight and two. The Reds are a game behind. And uh, yeah, as as we talked about earlier, the Reds won four in a row and they they just they aren't giving up any any any runs whatsoever. So um we'll see how that goes. Um you know, and that's without uh is it green? You know, green's out until until at least the all-star break. So um, you know, and then we talked about the pirates at six and four. Um who knows how that's gonna go right now. They're whatever, whatever the uh TBS Sports has the Pirates forecasted to win more games than the Reds. But uh that may be the case. But I tell you, never never count out uh Tito Francona. He's just uh he's just a baseball guy.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, the big problem with the Reds, Pops, is they they have great pitching, right? But if you look at the only team that scored less runs than them in the National League is the San Francisco Giants, and their hitters basically didn't show up for the first two series of the of the season.
SPEAKER_01Well, the one difference between the Reds and the Dodgers is that their records are exactly reversed. The Reds are seven and three, and the Giants are three and seven. Yeah, for sure. So um, you know, uh obviously the Reds shut down the Rangers. Uh so you know, and I think the Cardinals, surprising, uh surprisingly, are at 500. And then the Cubs just injury after injury after injury. You know, get into a little bit of that a little bit later on with Horton and you know stay uh started the start of the season on the on the IL because of the getting hurt in the WBC. But uh, if these injuries keep piling up on the Cubs, it could be a long, long year. PCA or and Bregman or no. Um it could get ugly in in Chicago. And uh Craig Council apparently has never dipped chewing, never used chewing tobacco before until the other day when he almost wretched on the on the in the dugout.
SPEAKER_03So it's too big, it's too big.
SPEAKER_01Uh and and then you get into these for the where the Dodgers are the only team over 500 with the Padres and the Diamondbacks at 500, and and uh the uh Rockies are uh have a half a game lead over the Giants for fourth place. So um, you know, I think we talked a little bit about it uh last week. Um, but Vitello and Cora, you know, the the wolves are at the door. So they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna really have to start answering some questions. Giants both both teams spent a lot of money. Yeah, get better, and they are not.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, well, and Pops, especially Vitello. I mean, when you look at the the ball that San Francisco's been playing, at the very least, they've always had good pitching and very solid defense, but the defense has been atrocious. Um, Matt Chapman was seen on camera yelling at his first band saying first baseman saying, How about you catch the effing ball? Um, so that was yeah, their first baseman can't even catch. Yeah, didn't you see he missed two very catchable balls for the high school first baseman? So but then after all that, Matt Chapman made three errors. Well, I guess he figured at the first basement.
SPEAKER_01I guess he figured the first baseman weren't gonna catch him anyway.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, yeah, might as well just yeah, let him get on on my own accord here.
SPEAKER_03Well, uh, but yeah, pretty interesting. Like like Pops mentioned, only four teams under 500 in the National League, um, which is pretty stark contrast to what you see uh in the American League, where you basically have the leaders of the division and then everybody else is under 500. It's uh it's quite a quite a stark contrast between the two leagues. So um we'll see. I know a guy that I know three guys that didn't pick Miami to win a division. I know one guy that didn't pick uh Milwaukee to go to the playoffs at all. Um, I think we were all in lockstep uh with the Dodgers, but um I think I took San Francisco as uh as uh I actually we all did. Didn't we all have the exact same picks in the National League?
SPEAKER_01You and I did. Justin did not because he was the one that did not pick the Brewers. That's right. But I picked uh I definitely picked um they're gonna they're gonna choke, dude. The Brewers. I definitely picked uh the Giants to be in the playoffs.
SPEAKER_00I picked Giants in the Diamondbacks for two of my wildcards. I did diamondbacks instead of the Brewers because Brewers aren't even gonna make the playoffs. They got the best second best record in baseball, but that's week and a half in. Give me a break.
SPEAKER_03Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_00They'll lose it for sure.
SPEAKER_03They'll blow in the ninth. All right. Uh, so let's talk a little bit of ABS, fellas. Um, it's pretty exciting uh when you hear the crowd really, really getting into it. Um, I think it adds just another level to the game. Um it seems to be so far that the catchers are really, really good at knowing what's a ball and what's a strike. I don't think pitchers should ever touch their hats. It actually kind of pisses me off when I see it happen. I was like, dude, put your hand down. You I just don't think the pitcher, especially like by the time the ball's cross in the plate, they're like just getting out of the end of their wind up. Like, they don't have a good look at it, right? Like, and it's not like we're talking about the Greg Maddox guys on the mound. Um, but Greg Maddox probably a big chunk of his Hall of Fame career was the fact that he he would get four to six inches on either side of the plate. Because he was a Hall of Fame pitcher, he got some pretty uh pretty friendly calls. But um, yeah, pitchers, um honestly, pitchers are not doing it very often. Uh, the catchers have had a lot of success. The hitters are doing it fairly often. They're not as successful as the catchers, which I think is probably uh to be expected, right? Um, but what do you guys think of it so far? Are y'all enjoying it? the abs like think of it as a as a fan and then think of it as a player. What are you what are your thoughts on it?
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SPEAKER_00We're talking about the one that he almost plugged Rodriguez or he did hit him. Yeah he did hit him in the back.
SPEAKER_01He did hit him. But so you know the struggle for me with it is any any part of the ball is on a it's the the deal it's a strike. Yeah. If any part of the ball touches that zone yeah yeah so you can have liter literally a it'd be a 99% ball but because it touches that one little bit they can overturn it and it's a and it's a strike. Yeah. So I don't like that part of it. But I do think that um and then the other part of it too like like you know we were talking last week whereas one disputed or uh challenged two calls in a row and one them both and then the pitcher throws another pitch and then he flies out the center field. Yeah right so you know it's just like um I I get wanting to get it right but I but I think you know how how how it gets applied and and that kind of stuff is just they need to work on that a little bit. You know like you know the the Ranger game the other night ended ended on a on on an ABS overturn. So I I think I I don't mind that so much but it's just kind of those random calls in the middle of an of an ad bat and then you know two two pitches later the dude grabs out to the shortstop. So you know I mean that's that's the part that I think it's you know I know the counts matter right you know yeah yeah like like Langford yesterday ch challenged one and one and it went from a one and two count to a two on one and then he doubled on the next pitch. So you know I think you know so you know um it's just and same thing happened earlier with for the Reds.
SPEAKER_03You know they challenged a pitch they they they won it turned the count in their favor and you know um they turned turned that into a into a deal so yeah I don't josh bell I saw josh bell do it the other day it was an 0-2 count nobody on base in the first inning and um he got called strike three tapped his helmet and then lost like it it wasn't like what do you do you just wasted one in the first inning you were 0-2 already there's nobody on base right this is not a this is not a crucial at bat I think is that kind of what you're getting at Pops like they need yeah yeah two outs bottom of the first 0 2 right yeah take your strikeout save them for the the bats that matter right yeah but do you think that like there should be like are you talking about rules in place or you just think teams need to get better about hey guys we're these are the situations we're okay doing it this is the situation yeah you know I I think you know uh obviously that game I was talking about with Suarez that was the the C C B Buckner game where yeah you know he he was brutal you know is like uh you know you're not even sure that guy was umpiring with his eyes uh open or not but um yeah I I think that's yeah and the batters get frustrated I know they do because they they have there and that guy's missing call miss call after miss call and then finally they just yeah but uh I think I think the umpire it'll ultimately it will make the umpires better um so uh I don't really have that much of a problem with it it's it's quick and when they do challenges quick it gets over with pretty pretty pretty quick but it it but it sometimes it does just seem to be like yeah what are we what do what are we doing here let's get on to the next right yeah next pitch and go yeah what do you think about it Slatey do you think so you did some pretty significant umpiring back in your day I remember I used to partner with you um I guess my question for you is gonna be do you think we're gonna see some umpires like raising their hands saying the guys it turns out that I'm actually really bad at this and request uh kind of like what I did back in the day request to not be behind the plate anymore no I don't think so I think that those umpires are very prideful I think that they have an extremely strong union I think if anything it might force some people into early retirement because it's going to be I mean it's obvious like you know a Joe West towards the end of his career obviously Angel Hernandez but you know that union was so strong it's so hard to pretty much once you have your tenure right as an MLB umpire to get you off the field then no they can't just request that they cannot be behind the plate.
SPEAKER_00They are all going to switch with their crew every single night between all the bases. So as a fan I love it what I do find myself doing because that stupid box is up there for every single pitch especially when a ranger's at back going oh my gosh why didn't we challenge that one right but yes I got to remember it is the second inning of a one-to-one game we're not gonna challenge that and Josh I'm with you I think you know before the sixth or seventh inning the only person on the field now I don't now not by the rules I don't think the rule should be this way but I think that it should be a rule for these players the only person on the field that can challenge a call before the seventh inning should be your catcher. I saw a couple of times where catcher goes to throw it back you know various games so far this year pitcher taps his helmet and the catcher just goes and throws it back like what are you doing? That is that's not a strike you know what I mean and then there was one tonight I think it was the fifth inning you know Jansen our catcher back there he caught it obvious strike inside corner he goes to throw it back thinking umpire's calling a strike he didn't tap his helmet immediately that thing was all the way inside the box it was 100% red the baseball so I mean I like it and like Pop said I like the the quickness of it I can't wait to go to a game and see it in person because I think it's fun to either cheer or or boo it's if it's a close one. But I think you know accountability wise I think it's a good thing. It happens super duper quick. It happens a hell of a lot faster than replay does on a safer out call, which is good. And they're limiting it and making them think about if they really want to use it because if you lose two challenges in the seventh inning you know then you're done. Then that call against the rangers didn't matter we were getting beat like eight to three but that strike three would have been ball two or whatever it is if you ran out of your challenges so you got to use them wily wisely I don't think umpires think they're gonna get used to it like anything just like they're getting used to you know having every call scrutinized when they're on the bases as far as it's safer out it's just something they're gonna get new at and I think if if some of these people don't adapt you're gonna see the the younger crop of umpires who have been doing this in the minors for a long time say hey call me up I'm ready to go let's play yeah well the one thing that I like about it is it it does eliminate guys like Joe West and Angel Hernandez who were historically bad umpires forever basically weaponizing the strike zone you know they get mad at you and they'd call a strike that was four feet over your head and just look at you and dare you to argue right yeah I mean obviously that's a bit of an exaggeration but not so much until less yeah well and and not anymore either like even before abs it got to the point where you better not say anything about a ball or a strike because the umpires have gone soft I mean you can you can be in the dugout and just you know ask for a consistent strike zone and they're gonna toss you out you know what I mean it's it's pretty uh pretty unbelievable now who was the the umpire new yorkers at last year before where he told boon not another word in this first inning boon's like all right I'll be quiet and some fan behind boone said something they thought it was booning to him out of the gun yeah that was I didn't say anything I didn't say wasn't me yep yeah it's pretty good stuff um I think we'll still see uh let's see Baltimore uh and Minnesota their managers have already been tossed once this year um well for trying to argue those are saying somebody didn't call their tap fast enough or something right yep yep yep we'll still say that I look I I I was worried a little bit about it but I still firmly believe that a manager if they need to light a fire under their team and go get like punched out of a game I think they will find a way to do it they'll find some kind of call and some kind of reason to go out there and get everybody pumped up so well you can I mean you can still go out and and argue without challenging right so that's not gonna they really want to go out there and argue they they they will right oh pops that's that's probably when it's gonna happen right like they're out of challenges and somebody just completely blows a strike three call yeah and man is just gonna you yeah I watched a video on with Billy Martin kicking some dirt on an umpire today back in the day good old days yeah he was a wild one um all right anything else on abs guys i i think it's uh I think it's really good for the game I think as a player you want to you want the call to be right especially with the game on the line so um I I do think they're gonna get some kinks out of it right I I don't think two is going to be the number forever I think they're gonna probably not maybe not make it unlimited but at least bump it up maybe it's you know two I uh I mean I mean the ultimate resolution here is just going to be there you the umpire is gonna be the own plane umpire is not gonna make any of any of the calls it's all gonna be done by ABS and they're just gonna be there to call up safe and fair foul I think they do that in Korea though I think they already do it the Korean major league teams they have there's an umpire behind the plate but he's got like a like a uh mic in his ear so he can still do the strike call or the ball but it's a robot telling him what it is yeah and they're there for safe out at the plate and fair foul before it gets to the bag yeah not surprising Koreans are usually at the cutting edge of technology and especially in sports so I get that especially especially North Korea yeah no I don't think they have a major league North Korean baseball league but I could be wrong. Maybe I'm getting the two mixed up I don't know you definitely are but that's okay all right um all right uh let's move on to Connor Griffin um maybe this is just the Pirates fan in me but I wanted to talk to him talk about him a little bit um 19 year old shortstop making his major league debut for none other than the Pittsburgh Pirates uh made the debut on the Pirates home opener on Friday uh they sold out like 38,000 people um he had his whole family in the stands you know the whole deal uh didn't have a great weekend at the plate um but he did look solid defensively um the pirates have been playing good ball i think he's kind of he's he's a generational talent or at least they seem to think so like kind of like Paul Skeens um where I think Pirates fans can see this guy being a mainstay for several years and it gives them something to cheer about and you add into that the fact that O'Neill Cruz is actually hitting even though he can't he gets booed every time a fly ball is hit the center field before he even misses it he gets booed oh I mean he is the first center fielder you've ever seen yeah um but Ryan O'Hearn and Brandon Lau doing really good since um since coming over Jake Mangum's playing a solid solid outfield hitting a little bit um but uh the pirates fan it looks like they have something to to really uh lean into here um my question for you is he had he was pretty obviously one of the best 26 guys on the team in the organization he probably should have been there for opening day they sent him down for what five days he batted 700 or whatever the hell it was um he obviously didn't get any better in these five days before they they brought him up so the question I'm gonna pose to you guys first question is are were they just dangling a roster spot in front of him to get him to sign an extension like hey you could be in the bigs right now just sign this sign right here this little extension trying to get the most value out of him you think that's what was going on why they sent him down because remember there were talks in spring training of uh of an extension being worked on yeah I mean I I don't know how much leverage that would bear on on him especially you know being 19 years old or whatever um yeah that's not you know the pirates just historically have not that's not been their M at all to find these guys let alone early um you know I the ownership now is saying he's committed to building the team so we'll see how that goes because that means him right him writing checks right yeah right which is what he hasn't been willing to do uh you know obviously he he can now you know it probably worked out better for Griffin uh because now now he he's he's filling the stadium yeah right yeah he'll be selling some jerseys yeah yeah selling some jerseys and you know you got him and then you got Skeens uh you know so two tomorrow they'll be sold out again because Skeens is pitching yeah um so um yeah we'll we'll see how it goes whether they have have an extension done or not um you know like I said that just hasn't been the pirates ownership at all yeah what do you think Slade I would say no because he's 19 years old but you're saying was it was it that kid from the Braves or whoever I sent y'all that hasn't played scene one pitch in the major leagues that's already signed to a seven year or whatever it was extension. So I I don't know what it is. I mean I don't I think he should have been on the opening day roster they could have had a sellout for every home game they've had so far minus O'Neil Cruz missing routine fly balls in the in the yeah they brought him up for the home opener okay okay start of their season on the road yeah so I don't I don't know what the thinking was behind that good for him you know he's 19 he's got his first bag of money he's gonna have a lot more bags of money should he continue to produce even slightly for them so I don't I don't know I think that's dumb reasoning I'm with Wendell but you know if he comes up and they start you know hovering around 500 here in a month or two and are in the mix there in the central which they very well could be especially after Milwaukee collapses and I mean like Pop said I mean they're the you know these players are you know the ones they have especially young guys are giving them every reason to to try to spend some money and to build a winner and if you know what's the owner going to say if they have 85% capacity at every home game and are are selling skeins and and griffin jerseys what's what's the excuse going to be for not writing the checks and trying to get a winner out there. So I don't necessarily think it was the money thing. I think it was maybe just to build up anticipation and like you said maybe to make his debut there in the in front of the home crowd.
SPEAKER_03Yeah all right I like y'all's optimism but I'm gonna answer my own question with a hell yes. They were dangling a contract in front of him and saying all you got to do is sign here and you are in the bigs tomorrow.
SPEAKER_01Now they have not announced anything this is all theoretical but it would not surprise me if before the weekend we hear about a contract extension from Connor Griffin because I think they've already inked it I think he's already signed it and that's why he's up at the bigs um so next question for you guys is if I am correct what's the over under on the contract remember um Emerson for Seattle just signed a contract for eight years and uh oh 86 million and has not seen a single um pitch uh a single at-bat a single inning of major league baseball and they've got JP Crawford at shortstop in Seattle so he's not going to be up here even this year um so I'm putting the over under at eight years 130 million what was the contract that you sent us Slate do you remember it off the top of your head it was eight years was it double digits was I think it was over 11 a year wasn't it yeah somebody somebody that we saw this week was like 90 I thought it was like 93 or 96 million for eight years it was something like that but um and then of course you got Jackson Curio who got a big contract um before he had seen any significant playing time so um what do y'all think the over under eight years 130 million just assume that I'm right and that he signed a contract what's the over under uh yeah I I think it's gonna be in the in that in in that ballpark um for sure uh if they did sign him um but yeah I don't I don't know it's just uh so yeah let's Holt Emerson yeah that's what eight years 95 million dollars that could be worth up to 130 pretty good and he's never he's never been even a major leaguer his career minor leaguer so far he's young don't get me wrong and then you know Justin you got to crop that picture better because you got you got your your porn just above that but you're so um you know do I really your OnlyFans yeah oh crap I don't even have an OnlyFans a lot nice little biky bikini there oh that was just my Facebook algorithm doing something I guess so yeah you're your porn you're you're only fans uh algorithm comes from somewhere hey I don't I don't pay for that stuff so it's not only fans I'll tell you that much um but yeah I mean I I think if they if they if they do it definitely it's gonna be um hundred over 130 million dollars so over or under over under at seven years over under I'm putting it at 100 million you're saying seven years hundred million okay so you're going under Pop's taking the over I'm taking the over um but there we go love to see this guy in a pirates uniform um eight years would take him through all of his ARB years and then two free agent years I believe I think it's you have to be in the league six years six years service time before you're eligible for free agency um so uh moving on to the injured list a couple of um concerning things a couple that we don't really know yet but um I guess the big question is what will these injuries mean for these teams Toronto loses pots um to a knee injury it looks like he'll be out for a while um and Alejandro Kirk looks like he broke his thumb or something like that he's gonna be out like six to eight weeks um so that's a starting pitcher and one of the best catchers in the major leagues what do you think that means for Toronto I can their record shows that it means quite a bit because they have not played well the last several games but what do you guys think how's how does Toronto fare without these guys being in there I I think Kirk's the bigger loss obviously than than Pons to me but um he was a big part of that team last year and they are they are scuffling you know as we talked about they they just got swept by the White Sox tell you that I I I didn't see any any notes on it but it's got to be years since this White Sox swept anybody right let alone last year for the series team so uh yeah I I I think Kirk is going to be definitely impactful.
SPEAKER_00You know he's called calls a good game is a good catcher um yeah he he was a 300 hitter down there in that or close to it in that in that five hole for them I think they're gonna miss him I think Kirk is uh this is the biggest one for sure I think what's gonna be tough depending how long he's hurt and how long he's out that guy's not going to lose any weight while he's on the disabled list. And so it just depends on what size he is when he comes back and if that's going to translate to two luckily it's his luckily it's his eaten thumb that's broken so unless he learns the eating thumb so it's his catching it might give you uh um a bigger target to Block pitches behind the plate, but he might be a little slower, so we'll see what happens.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. All right. Next is the Cubs. Cubby's got Matthew Boyd down after he just had a real good comeback start. Uh he looked horrible in his first start, and then and then really, really nice in his second one. Cade Horton, uh, rookie of the year two last year, um, also on the uh IL. And then you got Suzuki, like Pops mentioned earlier, um, with the knee injury in the WBC. He's coming back soon, and then Justin Steele will be back in late May. But you've got your number one and two starters right there. Um, if you if you include Steele, you're down your one, two, and three um until at least late May. So, and the Cubbies have not, same thing as Toronto, they have not been playing great ball so far. So, what does it mean for the Cubbies?
SPEAKER_01Oh, I mean, they're they're they're in last place and below 500 now. It's not gonna get any better, right? Yeah, so um not when you're playing the pirates 13 games a year, yeah, and you know, and they're you know, no but nobody's off to a hot start, not Horner, not PCA, they're all in the 30s, you know, or or or or worse. You know, there's lots of lots of pressure, lots of expectations on that team from the gate. So from the jump. So we'll we'll see how they they respond. Uh, you know, the one thing that they do have is defense travels, right? And they they they play defense better than as well as anybody in the in the major leagues. So um hopefully they can that can be their anchor and they can get going for for um TJ's sake, because I would hate to have the worst Cardinal team in 25 years finish ahead of the Cubs this year.
SPEAKER_03I will I don't know that I'd hate that.
SPEAKER_00No, you two definitely wouldn't have that.
SPEAKER_01That was that was sarcasm. Right. I don't know if it come came through, but that was sarcasm.
SPEAKER_00Our biggest, our biggest fan of this this podcast would definitely be upset by that. That the two-thirds of the podcast conglomerate wouldn't be upset about that. I think that Pops made a good point when we were going through the when he was going through the NL standings earlier, you know, it's it's this thing's got to tread water. They can't be much worse than this for a month, month and a half. They just can't do it, you know. But anybody with their top three starters out, you know, from that rotation, it's gonna hurt. But who's gonna step up? Who can pick it up? Is PCA gonna, you know, is he gonna come on stronger claim that contract? And uh, you know, they can't they gotta hover around, I'd say worse five games under 500 by the time the steal and and say, yeah, and then come back because uh if Milwaukee's gonna stay hot, no one's I mean, it's a season of ups and downs, but it is a tougher central, especially with the Reds pitching. And if your offense already isn't going, you run to a good pitching staff like that, it's gonna be a little tougher. So if they can if they can tread this and and like I said, I think be within five games of 500 by the time these guys come back that they'll be okay, but they need to make sure that they're around that mark. We can just see after some of these teams like a Milwaukee or whoever last year just gets so hot at one point, even when you're playing just 500 or conversely, like like Chicago did last year, you know, starting out the first two months so hot, then basically playing 500 ball after that, and Milwaukee coming up to catch you. It's just it's hard to to come back from that. We saw that with the Braves last year, you know, being 10 games out a month in the season. Yeah, you still have five more months to go, but geez, it's hard to hard to come back from a deficit like that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. All right, um, Astros end up losing Hunter Brown with a shoulder strain. I think right now he's on the 15-day IL, but you know how shoulders can be. He is a pitcher after all. Um, so what do y'all think about Hunter Brown? I believe he was Cy Young three last year, wasn't he?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Then, you know, they obviously they've already lost Framberg, although I think they were they're better off without him, but they still need somebody to eat up his innings. Yeah. Um, you know, I think you know they're they're definitely better than I expected them to be so far this year, even though they're just barely above 500. But yeah, I think that's that's going to be uh a big deal for them for sure.
SPEAKER_03Altuba and Korea still hitting, by the way. Pretty crazy.
SPEAKER_00Yep. Well they do. Well, hopefully the Rockies continue to shut them down and be the team that we all thought they were gonna be the beginning of the season. So anybody who loses 100 Brown, I was gonna I thought he was second, but you're right, he was third and Sayoung voting, and you know, that guy got to see him in person, him and him and DeGrom go at it in person from the good seats last year, and that guy's pretty special. Like you said, you hope that it's a two, three start tops miss being on the 15 day, but we know what those shoulder injuries are like, and and just like everybody, everyone's so secretive about these things. You know, you start on the 15 day, then you go on the 15 day again, then you go on the 30. Who knows what they know keeping it a secret. But if you're losing your your number one starter from a team that wasn't a playoff team last year, that you have some new guys kind of, you know, and obviously we'll get into it a little later with Jordan, you know, coming back and you know, think they'll be good there, but counting on on aging players like an Altuve, like a Correa, to keep doing what they're doing is gonna be tough, you know. It's gonna be tough for those guys to outslug people. So, yes, Hunter Brown is a very, very big deal.
SPEAKER_01Especially over the long haul, right? I mean, they they can do it for the first month of the season, but where are they gonna be at in August? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I would like to point out that it doesn't look like Jordan missed a beat with all those games that he met. He seems to be fully healthy and he is tearing the freaking cover off the ball. Um, but he all he always has. Probably realistically, when he's when he's fully healthy, he's probably a top five hitter in in the pros, you know, certainly top ten. Um, but yeah, he can just he's split proof, and that guy's just he's pretty amazing. Not an Astros fan, but he's pretty amazing to watch at the plate.
SPEAKER_00Um about Houston, so right.
SPEAKER_03Soto with a calf strain. How much does that mean to New York? I mean, it must be something a little bit more serious than a strain if we went to get an MRI. Maybe they're thinking maybe it is just a really heavy strain, but I I think it's gonna be a it's gonna be a big deal for that lineup.
SPEAKER_01And you know, I I think if you watched just sports in general, professional sports in general, over the last year, a year and a half, a lot of these guys that you've seen pop their Achilles have come on the back end of calf strains where they've tried to come back too soon or or whatever. So I would I would I would anticipate the Mets being very cautious. Yeah, like Jason Jason Tatum last year for the for the Celtics calf strain, Tyrese Halliburton, same thing for the in the NBA. What's his name? The quarter, uh Daniel, whatever, uh the quarterback for the Colts. Jones Daniel, yeah. They yeah, whatever. Um, yeah. Of course, he also had a broken leg at the same time, too, dumbass. But um, you know, these uh Achilles pops have come on the back end on the tail end of screens.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Well, they definitely want to be careful with that because that is a definitely a season killer. You're out for probably a year and a half, I think. We saw you don't see it a whole lot in baseball, but I know Ryan Howard had a bad one. Uh, I want to say he made the last out of a playoff game and popped it like him, he grounded out, and like immediately when he went to go start running, it popped, and he just went straight down to the ground. I think it was the end of the world series. Am I remembering that right? Y'all remember that? Big Ryan Howard for the Phillies?
SPEAKER_01I remember him, I don't remember that play, but uh you know, the recovery time on Achilles is much is significantly less these days. Oh, is it Jason Tatum just came back in 10 months? 10 months? Okay, yeah, it's it's it's pretty much right out of right out of year.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I mean Ryan Howard, that probably would have been what 20 years ago, you know, so there's no telling what kind of medical advancements um they've had, but um, yeah, still I think Soto out of that lineup's a really big freaking deal. What it the the lineup starts getting real real shallow um if you don't have Soto betting in that two-hole. Uh how about Mookie with the oblique stain, the dreaded oblique stain.
SPEAKER_01Well, I don't I I think the Dodgers are pretty happy. Uh you know, I mean that they don't have they're not gonna miss a beat. They've got more than enough depth to cover up for them, and you know, he'll he'll miss a month and he'll be he's one of their older older players. I think I think Freeman's the oldest, and besides Rojas, but you know, he he won't ever get to play again. But Freedom's uh Freddy's like 36 and then Mookie's 32, 33. So he'll you know he'll get a month off and he'll be rested. Come playoff time, he'll be fine.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, Mickey Rowe's been playing shortstop for him with with uh Mookie out. So um we'll see how that goes. World Series hero, Mickey Rowe. What do you think, Slade?
SPEAKER_00Man, they're just so loaded. I know they're gonna be fine. I mean, I'm looking right now of their everyday players in the lineup, he's by far their worst hitter right now, average wise. And so it might be a you know, you know, next guy up, right? When you have that type of payroll, when you have I mean, it's just a ridiculous number that they have there. So no, and it and it should be the mentality of next guy up for them. They're not worried about it at all. He I mean the thing you're gonna miss the most, at least he's still in the clubhouse, is a savvy, savvy, you know, veteran presence, and then obviously also you know, being on those World Series winning teams for multiple teams and just having him. But I mean, at least he's gonna be able to be there, still be able to talk to the guys, still be able to keep the morale. Not that you know, back-to-back world series champs saying the favorite to win this year need morale boosters, but he's he's a great guy to be in the dugout. But no, I don't I don't think they skip a stinking beat with that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, all right, good stuff. Um, I guess real quickly, let's run through the players and the pitchers of the week. Slade dude, what you got?
SPEAKER_00All right, well, I as much as it pains me to admit, and I said we were going to talk about this a little bit, Alvarez got to pick Jordan for my AL player of the week. The MLB agrees with me on that one. All he did was go eight for 17, seven runs scored, three homers, a Darby Izo, and he also walked seven times. That's a pretty damn good week for a team that's in first place in their division. Not by much, but hey, they are two games over 500 right now, so good for them. And then my ML, or excuse me, my NL player of the week. Okay, so Andy Paiz, who the MLB picked, who had a hell of a week. 14 for 24. I mean, come on, that's that's unbelievable. And I'm on the left and right, Slade. Yeah, and he, you know, speaking of World Series heroes, you know, when he trucked over, you know, Kiki. Yeah, so good for them, good for him. But, you know, our buddies out in Washington, they need every win they can get. And they're young shortstop CJ Abrams. Well, he went eight for 24, so he got six less hits in the same round of bats. He did score seven runs, hit three home runs, ten RBIs, two stolen bases, and he walked four times. So I'm going to give the NL player of the week to Mr. CJ Abrams, Washington shortstop. Good job. Enjoy those wins while you can, guys, because your team probably is not going to get many of them. All right. So for my NL pitcher of the week, a hot Lana Brave, Mr. Bryce Elder. So he had a Texas boy. Yes, had a freaking great week. So listen to this. He pitched uh against Atlanta, or excuse me, Atlanta, against Athletics at Arizona. He had 13 innings pitched between two games, 13 strikeouts, two locks, gave up zero earned runs, but got the loss at Arizona. So there you go. If that doesn't tell you about Atlanta, then that will tell you about Atlanta and that shit cloud we were talking about. But they're not doing too bad. Chase Burns close second, and then uh for the American League. Uh so I think that honorable mention is our own Jack Leiter. He did have a level innings pitch, 17K's. He did uh get a win as well, only gave up three runs, but I got to give it to Savvy Veteran and a team with the best record in baseball, that New York Yankee left-hander, Max Freed. Just you could pick any of them right now, right? But all he's done is, you know, against Seattle, seven innings pitch, no earn runs against the Marlins, got the no decision, gave up three runs, but still went 7.2. Guys, we don't see numbers like this. We saw de Grom come out after five innings and like 85 pitches tonight. That sucked ass. DeGrom did great, but the facts that Fried's getting up there, going deep into these games, helping the team with the best record in baseball, he's already pitched three times this year, so he is going to be my pitcher of the week in the AL. Yeah, good stuff.
SPEAKER_03All right, Pops. Who needs a little help this week?
SPEAKER_01Oh, I'm going to go a rare, a rare double. Uh so uh, you know, honor uh uh national league, Michael Harris, uh five for 29. Uh he's having a tough start for the Braves, not unlike he did last year. Yeah. Um and then uh for the American League. Initially I was looking at um, you know, Cal Raleigh with his 130 batting average and uh three RBIs and 10 strikeouts. But I went with Texas Ranger great Josh Smith, who went um two for 19, 105 batting average, three strikeouts. Um you know he did he did get four walks, but you know, I think the the this this team was looking for much more than that from him. Yeah, they they they traded away Simeon uh and for got the right fielder and basically handed him the second base position. Yeah. And uh he's he's had a tough, tough go of it. Um and then on the on the pitching side, you know, I had a real hard time finding somebody in the in the national league because they they're winning all of their games. But you know, the American League, you know, I think we talked about Dil Dylan Seas. Uh he got he was the one that um Blue Jays, he was, you know, he's not their ace, but he opened that series against the White Sox and um he did not he did not pitch well at all. And he he got beaten that opening game of the series and had set the tone. So uh that was a tough one. Uh Bednar with the Yankees, he's four for four with save opportunities, but uh if he keeps pitching the way he is, he's that's gonna come back and bite him, right? He's whip is close to three and whatever, he's having a really tough time. But um my uh Usuck pitcher uh of the week, uh unfortunately, is none other than you know, big big game eight uh for our own Texas Rangers, you know, based upon you know uh ERA is over uh 11. Um Whip is close to three. You know, he's got a bunch of strikeouts, obviously, but you know, he's just they're they're just killing him. Um you know, he he was responsible for their first two losses, obviously. Uh, and um, you know, he's going again to he's going tomorrow night, so we'll hopefully he can get it get it right and but you know, based upon his history and what he did last year, um, I think you know he he's certainly been part of the early, early disappointment for the Rangers. You know, they won tonight, so hopefully they can get back on on track a little bit, but you know, still not scoring any runs.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. All right, good stuff. Thank you for that, Pops. And uh let's see, sorry, my oh, there we go. All right. Um, anything else you guys want to talk about? That's pretty high and tight, fellas. That's everything we got. I'm good. Do y'all want to do trivia? Couple of minutes.
SPEAKER_01Let's do trivia real quick. We're right at an hour, so we got a couple of minutes for trivia.
SPEAKER_03I didn't look up anything, so y'all start looking some stuff up while I didn't either.
SPEAKER_01All right, I thought we had some ready. If we don't have any ready, then we can just kind of oh okay.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Who who is the Texas Rangers pitcher who might have won the Cy Young last year, should he have pitched enough things and qualified that has an over 11 ERA right now? Like, well, you know what, but I'm hopeful, like Pop said, you know, he we know he can do it, maybe being in front of that home crowd and maybe being against a Seattle team early right now that can't really hit the ball any better than we are hitting the ball right now, could get his butt back on track.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I mean, uh realistically, Seattle's not playing good. Um, Houston's right around 500. We're not losing a whole lot of ground here. So if we can pick up the bats a little bit and let Avaldi get back on track. Did you see Jack Leiter started wearing his daddy's number, by the way?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, he did.
SPEAKER_00Was it pops yesterday? Was it or said, is Leiter our best pitcher? I was like, well shit, you know, so far, or he is.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and so it's not exactly trivia, but I saw something the other day. So modern era of baseball, which is starting in 1900, 11 teams have uh 500 records or better. Only 11 out of only 11 out of 30. Well, I'd say definitely the Yankees. Yep, they are they are number one, and uh probably gonna be some pumps on here that'll gonna surprise you. Nine of the 11 are old school.
SPEAKER_00Uh St. Louis.
SPEAKER_01Yep, they're number four. Cincinnati, probably Boston is number five. And who'd you say, Justin? I said Boston, Josh said Cincinnati. Um, Boston, yes, and Cincinnati, no. All the cubby's the cubbies, yes. So that's a surprising one, right? Because they've been around forever, but for most of our lives, they've been really crappy.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Well, in Boston, too, right? I mean, Boston just well, I guess not most of our lives. Before 2000, they were really crappy for many years.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Um, let's see who else. Man, I feel like the White Sox have kind of always been bad, but they have been around forever. Oakland.
SPEAKER_01Oh no on no no on both. Uh the Sox are actually number 12 at 498. Uh and then the A's, the A's are way down. Yeah. Uh, let's see. Cleveland. Right. Cleveland is number six behind Boston. Have we said Dodgers and Giants yet? Uh, you have not, and they are two and three. Giants two, Dodgers three. All right. Who are we missing? So you're missing the bottom, the bottom four. The bottom four, okay. Like I said, two two of them are one is a fairly recent expansion team, and then the other one is an expansion team from the 60s.
SPEAKER_03Arizona? Yeah, that's gotta be the no. No, fairly recent. So not most recent. Right. Uh fairly recent. Expansion team.
SPEAKER_00No. Not the moral.
SPEAKER_01No. Let's see. Houston. Houston is one of them. They're at five oh three. Toronto? Yes. They are right at five hundred. Okay.
SPEAKER_00Nice.
SPEAKER_03So you got two left? Two left. Eight and nine. Are they the old timey ones, or are they Detroit? Yes.
SPEAKER_00Not the Mets, right?
SPEAKER_01Not the Mets. This is this is a charter charter franchise.
SPEAKER_03For Phillies? The Reds is a little surprising there. Big red machine? They've been around a long time.
SPEAKER_01They are right there with the White Sox, so they are 13 on the list.
SPEAKER_03I feel like the whole AL West is all expansion teams. Oh, Braves? No. Not the Braves. That's kind of crazy. I mean, they were good for the entire decade in the 90s. Okay. Um Milwaukee?
SPEAKER_01No. Milwaukee's only been around since technically since 1969.
SPEAKER_02Nice. All right.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_03I mean, Pittsburgh's been around for a long time. It's not Pittsburgh, is it?
SPEAKER_01It is.
SPEAKER_03You've got to be kidding me.
SPEAKER_00I thought that, yeah, maybe I was going to say, did Josh already say Pittsburgh?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Sweet. Yeah. They have the obviously they've been brutal for most of that couple of years there with Kutch. And they were good in the 70s, obviously. Um, but you know, back and then yeah, they they've just been bad. Well, yeah, in the 20s and 30s, they were they were playing in World Series all the time. Oh, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_03All right. Go black and yellow is what I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_01Kind of interesting. So uh probably pretty easy to figure out the bottom two, the Rockies and the Marlins. Uh the Padres are really bad. Um, you know, the the one that that's the charter franchises that's the worst is the Phillies or 470. 470 winning winning percentage. Okay. Since 1883.
SPEAKER_00And the Marlins have won two World Series.
SPEAKER_01And the Marlins have two World Series. And the Padres don't have any. The Padres don't have any. And they they are uh the Padres are third worst just behind the Rockies and the in the Marlins. Yeah. And I believe I read the other red also where the the Phillies are the first team will be the it's already happened, but first team to give up 200,000 hits. Oh wow. There's a bunch of other teams that are that are really close. There may be a handful more that'll it'll happen for this year, but uh the Phillies are gonna be number one on the list. They give up 200,000 hits in the history of their franchise. Kind of fun stuff. But I mean they're one of the first. Yeah, I mean they've been playing baseball since 83, I think it was 1883. Yeah, right, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Um what was I gonna say? Oh, I lost it. Oh, where were the Rangers at on that list? Because I feel like they gotta be pretty low. Yeah, they were. They've been except for like they have they'll have like a two-year stretch, and then they're bad for seven or eight.
SPEAKER_01They're so they're 477, and you know, and they they took on the uh the history of the senators, the senators were really really bad as well.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, um, I'm actually surprised it's 477 seems high, right? Yeah, it really does.
SPEAKER_03We've seen some pretty gnarly Rangers teams over the years. Oh, dude. Yeah, even when we had the Palmeros and the Juan Gonzalez and the Puds, like we just never had any pitching back then.
SPEAKER_00Think about it. Like you said, Josh, it's been like in three years spurts. I mean, 96, 98, 99, the first time always made the playoffs, and then we did not make the playoffs again until 2010 when we made the world series. Then you had the 10-11, obviously, 12. We were over 500, 13-14 was bad, but then we made the playoffs 15-16, and then man, it's been crap even after the world series. Oh, yeah, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. That's why the World Series, like we call Milwaukee and Toronto of last year lightning in a bottle. Talk about the 2023 Texas Rangers.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and we what was it? That was an eight, what an 88-win team, something like that. I believe card. I don't even think they won 90 games.
SPEAKER_00Well, we're second wild card, actually, because we obviously played every series on the road, so yeah.
SPEAKER_01And uh, you know, they've they've uh never never won a hundred games.
SPEAKER_03Wow. That'd be a trivia. Teams that have never won a hundred games. I would imagine it's a pretty short list. I I would imagine also teams that have never lost a hundred games is probably a pretty short list. I think there's only one one team that's never lost a hundred games in their franchise history.
SPEAKER_01I think I heard I don't know. The Yankee, I bet the Yankees and the Dodgers Giants and Giants, maybe. I bet the Yankees have never lost 100 games.
SPEAKER_03You know, a really surprising team that's never lost a hundred games, they've come close, but they've never lost actually hit the 100 mark. The LA Angels of Anaheim. A few years ago, they were they lost 99, so they came real close, about as close as you can to not hitting it. But uh, but yeah, I bet there's some surprising teams. All right, that's all I got, fellas.
SPEAKER_00Exciting, exciting week and a half or whatever, and let's keep it up. I'm just I was happy on a Monday night to watch full freaking regular season game. It was fun.
SPEAKER_03Yep, absolutely. Well, thank everybody for listening and joining us for another episode. Uh, we appreciate the support. Uh, check us out on Twitter, on Facebook, on X. Um, I think Twitter and X are the same thing now, aren't they? How about Instagram in there? Check us out on that one. Uh, if you like what we're doing, support the show for the Slay dude, Justin Slay and Wendell Pops Patterson. I'm Josh Patterson. Thank y'all, and we will talk to you again next week.
