Episode 57: The Passing of 2 Atlanta Braves Legends

Josh recaps the comings and goings in the AL and NL.

Pops and Slay Dude review the standings.

The Jimmies remember Ted Turner and Bobby Cox.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:01

Baseball fans and baseball lovers, good day. Thank you for joining us for another episode of the MOB Clubhouse with the Jimmies. I am here with the Slay dude, Justin Slay, Wendell Pops Patterson, and I'm Josh Patterson. We got a lot of fun baseball to talk this week. We also have a little bit of sad news coming out of Atlanta. A couple of legends passing away within a couple of days of each other up there down there, actually. So we'll get into that a little bit. Let's get it started with the AL recap, boys. All right. Rays at Red Sox for three. A little good team versus bad team. The Rays take two out of three because they do everything well. Connolly Early shut him down in game two. And Junior Commonero drops bomb after bomb after bomb. He missed. He hit a massive one to dead central out there in Fenway over the weekend. The A's and the O's at Camden. Shea Langaliers is in literally every box score, every game for the Athletics. Rookers starting to heat up. Bassett pit strong innings in bulk relief to help the O's savage salvage the series. But the A's ended up taking two out of three. The Javs have some familiar faces coming off the IL, and they really needed it. Bam Bam Barger's back. Yes, Savage has been back for a week and a half, two weeks now. So they're getting some of their familiar faces. The Cease, Dylan Cease, was masterful in game one. He threw seven shutdy and struck out 10. Game two was all Jays 14 to 1. But then they got Jose Soriano, like the rest of the league in game three. The Jays do end up taking two out of three. Side note, uh, this was not over the weekend. It was yesterday, Monday. Um, but Kevin Gossman got strikeout number 2,000. Um, a little surprised on that. Were y'all surprised when y'all heard that a little bit?

SPEAKER_05 1:57

A little bit. And he's only like the sixth active player with 2,000 strikeouts. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:02

He's uh he's been around a long time, a little bit longer than I thought. Um so the twins, twins visit the Guardians, take two out of three um because nobody wants to win the central. Uh Buck Daddy likes to carry the Twinkie offense, and Kendris Rojas got his first major league win. Congratulations. Uh, the Tigers and the Royals in Kansas City. Whit Jr. had an inside the park homer. Um, third fastest inside the park home run in the stat cast era. Do you know who got the two fastest?

SPEAKER_05 2:34

So, what was this question again?

SPEAKER_01 2:36

Who were the two guys to get a faster inside the park home run?

SPEAKER_05 2:42

Langford was probably one, and maybe maybe even Evan Carter. No, no. So what do you say? So you're talking about I'm around the bases, right? Yep. Willie Wilson, maybe?

SPEAKER_01 2:55

No, Stat Castera.

SPEAKER_05 2:59

Oh, Babe Bruce. Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 3:02

Okay. With a belly full of hot dog. And Bud Weiser. Uh, PCA and the Buck Daddy.

SPEAKER_04 3:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 3:13

Wow. Yeah. Fastest ones. Um, the Royals ended up taking two out of three. The Ms visit the White Sox. Game one should have been a pitcher's duel, but it was the opposite. The M's ended up taking that 12-8. They had Emerson Hancock going against Sean Burke, and that didn't go their way at all. But Anthony Kay and Davis Martin and the Bullpen shut down the Mariners offense for the rest of the series. Montgomery, Murakami, and Miguel Vargas just hit Dingers. That's what they do. And the Sox end up taking two out of three. The Cubbies came to Texas riding a nine-game heater. Um, apparently, Kamar Rocker has played this game his entire life and still doesn't know the pitchers cannot wear white sleeves. Uh, he got roughed up because of his transgressions, but our boys shut him out for 20 straight innings uh and take games two and three. DeGrom was Cy Young Caliber, and Jack Leiter didn't give up a run. He's just still struggling to go long in the game long enough to even get a win. Um, Josh Young continues to be one of the best hitters in the game so far. Um, Justin Foske got his first major league Homer and the Rangers take two out of three, and they stopped the Cubby's winning streak at 10. And that's all I got, fellas, for the AL. Slay dude, you got some standings.

SPEAKER_03 4:28

I do. We all had this on our bingo card that 40 games into the season, Tampa Bay would have the best record in the American League. Didn't we have that?

SPEAKER_04 4:37

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:38

Yeah. And second tied for the second best record in the major leagues. We talked about last week, and we are still here. Although we did have a team in those Cleveland Indians that have decided to join the over 500 club here in the American League. But all Tampa Bay is done, guys, in the month of May was now keep in mind who they're playing, but they're all still Major League teams, and you got to play who's on your schedule. Swept the Giants, swept the Blue Jays, took two out of three from the Red Sox, and uh beat the Blue Jays last night and are currently tied with the Blue Jays in the top of the 10th and next earnings right now. Nine and one their last 10. They've just been on an absolute heater. I hope that they calm down before the Rangers play them. They're a game and a half above New York. Other than that, no one else has more than 19 wins. So Toronto is kind of doing what Toronto's been doing. Boston's been doing a little better, but with as bad of a start as they had, it's kind of hard for them to come back as they are currently 10 and a half games out. Not a not a good thing to be uh a struggling team in the East whenever you have the best two teams in the American League in there. As we alluded to earlier, Cleveland, they just get it done, done, done. Mainly because no one else in that division is over 500 either. But the second place team is your Chicago White Sox. How about that? I think I sent you all the stat on uh was it yesterday? The American League being as weak as it is, if the if the playoffs were to start yesterday, now obviously one game means a lot right now, 40 games in. Yeah, the number one wild card would be the Chicago White Sox, the number two wild card would be the Texas Rangers. So I think that's all you need to know about that.

SPEAKER_01 6:15

And the A's would be winning the division, right?

SPEAKER_03 6:18

Well, the A's are the fourth team, fourth and own the last team to be above 500 at 21 and 19. They are leading our division. You know, everyone talks about the tough 40-game stretch the Rangers had. You play what you play, you play who you play, but then you know, we get shut out by a guy with a four ERA yesterday. I think he took down 14 batteries in a row yesterday without anybody getting off base, right? So uh, you know, bad hanging team is going to be a bad hitting team. And like Pop said, we are up seven to one right now, but we might not score for the rest of the month. Maybe the rest of the week. Uh, you know, month was a little exaggeration, Pops, but I'll give you the rest. Okay. So, but uh Cleveland, you know, just getting it done. Two-game lead. But the good thing is is Minnesota's in last. They're only three games out. So no one's taking away, running away with that division like they are in the East, with Tampa Bay and New York being at least eight games up on that third place team that's there. Uh, athletics, we knew they were gonna hit. They still have a run differential of negative six, which tells you that their pitching is what we thought it is, but if they can keep slugging, but that's a hard way to win through 162-game season. And I imagine they're gonna be playing a lot of games away from that triple-A ballpark where the ball doesn't fly as well as it does. But right now they are there. Uh, Seattle's only two games out, we're two and a half out, but us in Seattle were both four and six in our last 10. A's are five and five, so A's have had every chance to run away with it, or Seattle's had every chance to try to make a statement and prove that they were the you know second best team in the American League last year, and no one has done it. So it's kind of still par for the course as far as the American League goes, but big surprise with Tampa Bay leading the way a game and a half over the Yankees and best record in the American League.

SPEAKER_01 7:59

Who's got the worst record in the American League right now? That would be the LAs. Okay. Oh, I was hoping that was still the Astros.

SPEAKER_03 8:10

Well, only by half a game, Josh LA has one more loss. They have 27. Okay. So Boston 17 wins, but Houston, LA 16 wins, and uh everybody except Cleveland in the central has 19 loss.

SPEAKER_05 8:26

Well, you know, the the the two interesting things coming out of the American League is A, you know, we talked about earlier the the dumper and his Ofer 36, right? And then, you know, I sent you guys that that stat earlier today about pitches that were balls but not challenged. Tampa Bay has had 141 balls that were thrown by their pitchers that were out of the strike zone that didn't get challenged that were called strikes. And you know, like I said, you know, how are they not undefeated with that kind of thing? I mean, it was it was crazy how many um balls that they had called strikes and they're still just under 500. So um that was that was pretty wild to me.

SPEAKER_03 9:12

No, that was a cool stat and a stat that we all saw for the very first time in nature league history. And so keep them coming, Pops. I I like looking at those, and I know it's hard for these guys, especially you know, any pitcher, but uh to decide if they're gonna tap the helmet. But man, there's so many times, and it's so easy for us to be at home and you see that pitch is inside, yeah, inside the box on you know, Corey Seager, who you know that's not why he's struggling, or you know, whoever it's maybe a Josh Young who's seen the ball really well, and the ball's you know, it's only six inches outside, that's not a big deal. But you're like, dude, you tap your helmet right there. What are we doing? But I'm sure they have strict instructions when they need to do it and who can do it.

SPEAKER_01 9:51

So yeah, well, and and it's got to be very situational, too, right? I've seen because I watch I basically watch the 10-minute recap of every game every single day. So, and they show a lot of the ABS challenges on there, and you're seeing teams that like the guy's one and two, nobody on base, it's the first inning, there's two outs, and they're getting wrung up on a pitch that's close, but you see, you see them go to the helmet, and then they'll they're out of they'll lose because it is a strike, and they don't don't know the strike zone as well as they think they do. But I mean, you gotta be it's gotta in those situations where there's nothing on the line, it's gotta be egregious for you to tap your helmet, right?

SPEAKER_05 10:42

Well, and I think part of it too, I think hitters, especially hitters, uh, and pitchers frankly should never be allowed to challenge. Um I but I think hitters, they don't always follow the ball all the way to the to the catcher's mit, right? They'll they'll they'll they'll decide it's not going to be a ball and they look away, and then when they get wrong up, then they're you know they want to go to the yeah to the to the helmet, and you know, they're just they're they're they're they're they're pretty bad at it. But you know, I think I wouldn't say that the Rangers, from what I've seen, they're really good at it when they do it, but they challenge as little as anybody in the yes, in the major leagues.

SPEAKER_03 11:26

I I agree with you, Josh. You watch 10-minute recaps of every game. I watch about every single Ranger game, so I can give you perspective from them. Wendell, I was gonna say the same thing you did. I think situationally they handle it well. I don't think maybe I've seen Seeger once or twice do it before the sixth inning, and he's usually right, you know. But I haven't seen a pitcher challenge, and they've a lot of them been successful. We've seen, you know, was it when Jansen got three or four right in one game? Now he's got hit the ball well enough to deserve to even be behind the plate. But I'm with you too, Pops. It's like, especially when it comes seventh, eighth, ninth inning, it's like one of your challenges on a safe out call, you know, just use it. You mean what's but you're right, Pops. They they they leave a lot of that on the table, and it's like they're there for a reason, burn them up.

SPEAKER_05 12:14

Yeah, uh well, you know, it's it's interesting. I was watching the Cubs Braves game tonight, and by the by the fifth inning, the Cubs were out of challenges, and the Braves had already won two, and so they still had two two to go.

SPEAKER_03 12:24

I mean that and that could be a huge advantage at the last on a two-to-one game on a one-two pitch. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Burger three for three. So maybe in the night off, you're putting him in the eight-hole helps. Oh, two RBIs, too. But don't go. So he's using all that.

SPEAKER_05 12:46

Well, the the big dumper got got a hit tonight. He's one for three. So I don't know how far his streak got it got to, or if he got it in his first advance, but he is out of his ofer.

SPEAKER_01 12:57

Off the schnauz. He's uh and he may be one where they just because remember last week he had that little tweaked his back or tweaked an oblique or something. And we talked about it a little bit last week, too. This guy caught a lot of games, props. He played 159 games in the regular season. Obviously, he didn't catch all of those, but probably 75% he did. 159 regular season games, every game in the playoffs, almost every game in the WBC, and then he's played almost every game this season. I think he need maybe he just needs uh two weeks in on the IL to get his body like refreshed, get his body healthy. Guys, he's missing the fastball, and he's a guy that can turn around just about any fastball, and he's just looking looking silly on the heaters. So um maybe maybe they they need him right, they need him right for the rest of the season. It's freaking May. Give him a couple weeks now. It's and how many how many games back are they, Slay dude? Two, two games back of the A's. You know, do it now. Who cares who your backup catcher is? Oh, it's Mitch Garver. So you're I mean, you're giving up some defensively, but Garver's a solid bat, solid right-handed. Really?

SPEAKER_03 14:15

I mean, Dumpers has not been good defensively this year either.

SPEAKER_01 14:18

Yeah, well, I mean, yeah. Normal Cal Raleigh, you're giving up a lot with Mitch Garver, but Garver's a solid ball player, you know? He was there on our 2023 run.

SPEAKER_03 14:32

In the postseason, and it was a big part of a grand slam against the O's.

SPEAKER_01 14:37

So um, all right, one last question for you guys, uh, two last questions for American League specifically. Who's been the biggest surprise for y'all in the American League? Good or bad? Which team?

SPEAKER_05 14:54

Um, I think for me it's it's uh it's it's the white the the White Sox. You know, I think certainly we all thought that they would be better, but for them, I mean, they're they're gonna they could they keep up. I mean they could they could truly contend for that division given how how weak it is. So that's that's been the one that's has stood out to me. And then the other one is not a team, um, and it hasn't again it it hasn't translated to team success like it hasn't throughout his whole career. It's just kind of the revival of uh Mike Trout.

SPEAKER_00 15:27

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_05 15:28

You kind of thought, kind of got the feeling that maybe he was on the on the downside, but yeah, uh he has proved us doubters wrong.

SPEAKER_03 15:38

Yeah. Just gotta keep gotta stay healthy, right? And what about you, Slate? Besides Tampa Bay, obviously being the best team in the American League right now, but they're one of those teams like Cleveland, man. It's just you need you can't name four people on their entire roster, but they're always in the mix for the division, the wild card. The in a bad way, I'd say Boston and Toronto, both in the form division, both teams that that we picked to be there. I know I picked at least Toronto to be in the in the playoffs, right? Maybe even win in the east this year. And then, you know, going back to the big dumper in his streak, one of us idiots picked him as the sleeper MVP behind judge. I don't know who that was, but it's not looking real good right now, is it? Not yet. No.

SPEAKER_01 16:23

It's early. You gotta figure a guy of his caliber. And look, it's unrealistic to ex unrealistic to expect a 60 homer season from him, right?

SPEAKER_05 16:32

You know, I expected every bit of a 40 homer season from him, though.

SPEAKER_01 16:36

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 16:37

Well, you know, and the other the thing about uh oh shit, I don't even know what I was gonna say. You know, he had he had a hard time, uh, you know, he couldn't win the MVP last year with hitting 245, you know, and with his start right now, there's no way he's gonna even he's gonna get to 245 this year, you know, regardless of what else. He'll be at 220, 225, and you know, he's he's got seven home runs. So he he's not gonna get anywhere near, you know, he's he'll have a he's gonna have to get on a hot streak to get into the 40s this year. So, you know, his yeah, he's gonna be finishing behind judge again, like everybody else.

unknown 17:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:18

Um, and then for the American League, um which team has been kind of a disappointment that you think might be able to get out of it? We've got um Toronto's getting some of their guys back um off the I. Seattle is starting to play ball a little bit, Houston still sucks, but you know, they have that kind of legacy about them to where they're gonna figure it out. Kansas City was disappointing, but they were riding a little bit of a hot streak recently. So which one of those which one of those good teams hasn't performed well, but you think they're suited to to get out of it and start hopefully taking over their division or getting close to it?

SPEAKER_05 18:03

From from in my in my mind, the only one that even has a chance is is uh Toronto. I I think with Scooba down, I think and Toronto uh Detroit's kind of done. Uh and I think Boston just continues to be just as about as dysfunctional a team as you could possibly get for whatever reason. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 18:21

Yeah, I'm full of it.

SPEAKER_05 18:22

I mean, it's just it's just it's just Toronto's the only one that's not doing well that we all thought would do well, that has a chance to go ahead and do well. And I think Kansas City could they could get to 500, but I but I don't they're not gonna they're not gonna catch um Cleveland, and there's gonna be three teams go to the playoffs out of the AL East.

SPEAKER_01 18:43

Yeah. Okay. What do you think, Slade?

SPEAKER_03 18:46

I mean, given the track record, I would say Toronto too, but man, you know, they've got a division with the two best teams in baseball where 40-41 games in and they're nine and a half games out of the league. Now, in saying that, they're probably half a game out of the wild card. So I mean it's not still they might not win it, but I'm with you. I mean, they just they've proven, you know, one strike went out, one strike away from from winning the whole damn thing. The the minus bachet, they got a good core. Cease can get his craft together and and and you savage, like you said, Josh, he's back, and they can anchor the one-two spot in that rotation. They're good. And just because of the division they're in, and you know, I think the caliber team they have, and if Bobby Whitt Jr. starts hooting up like he has been, I mean, Kansas City at their horrendous start, seven and three in their last ten, they're two and a half games out, tied with Detroit. And like Pop said, I mean, yeah, this guy's scuba pitches every five days, and supposedly, according to his agent who wants him to get paid, is gonna come back sooner than thought. Yeah, we'll see what happens. But uh that guy he's he's having a different procedure.

SPEAKER_05 19:47

Yeah, but it's still an updated procedure, but yeah, it's all about him getting paid, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_03 19:53

And just hopefully not rushing his butt back to where he isn't gonna get paid, you know. Uh but that's his arm. That's that's the leader of that team. And I think it demoralizes that dugout when when he's not there. So I'd say besides Toronto, you know, they I think at best, I know it's early, right, guys, but we're looking at a wild card spot for them. And yes, we did talk about it. There is a statistical way that four teams can come out of division, but I don't think there's four good enough over there in the East. I'm with Pops. I think three's gonna come out of there.

SPEAKER_05 20:24

Yeah, I don't think the Orioles or the Red Sox either one are gonna get anywhere in the narrow.

SPEAKER_03 20:29

Uh you know, Boston is playing like they are, and Josh, like you said, you're out, and that's a tough thing for you to say. But hey, we're men, you know, we we we wear our feelings on our shoulders, but you know, damn it, we'll minute when we're wrong sometimes. Now we'll be back here two weeks, they'll be leading the division, but Baltimore kind of showing us they are who they are, better than last year, but maybe not an elite club like they were. So, anyways, long story to get around it out of that. I think just because the division they're in as well, I think Kansas City's got a chance to pull it up unless Cleveland goes on a run and runs away with that thing because no one else looks like they want to do a damn thing in that division, kind of like our division right now, too.

SPEAKER_01 21:07

Yeah, uh I'm gonna go with uh I'm gonna go with Seattle just because um I just think they're such a you like a big dumper. I do think you got a hit tonight, they're they're on their way back, yeah. Um well I think uh so for Cal Raleigh, there's really only one way to go, and that's up, right? Right um uh Jrod is starting to hit about two months earlier than he normally does. Taylor started to hit again. I love Brendan Donovan. I think he's just a solid ball player. Um and everybody knows about their pitching staff. And they've you know, if Munoz Senior Smoke can get his crap together and not have an ERA of 10 um, you know, on the and when he's closing out games, then Um, I think they've got I think they've got some room for improvement for sure. And they could be a team that with all of their cogs working, um, that could run away with the division. So um, that's my pick. All right. Y'all ready for a little National League? Let's do it. Yumpers. Let's do it. All right, the Redbirds at the Padres for a four-game set. Libertory and Michael McGreevy shut down the San Diego offense for the first two games, but the Padres took game three, and St. Louis had a combined shutout until their closer um came in in game four. Nick Castellanos hit a hit a game time two-run homer uh in the bottom of the ninth. Um, oddly enough, he hit it with Fernando Tatis Jr.'s bat um after his was broken. Uh Tatis Jr., of course, still doesn't have a homer, but at least his bat does. Uh, and then Machado walked it off uh in the tenth inning with uh with a sack fly.

SPEAKER_03 23:03

Castell's down run. That had to been like when negotiations for the Stride of Hormeese fell apart or something. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05 23:11

I don't know if I'll ever be in front of this mic again, but there's a two-run homer by Castellanos.

SPEAKER_01 23:18

The Astros and the Reds in Cincinnati with the Reds coming in on an eight-game skid. They had a rough week. Uh Mike Burroughs tossed seven shutting in game one, but Chase Burns and Andrew Abbott did the same in the next two as the Reds take the series and put an end to their losing streak. Uh, by the way, the Reds were still three games above 500 uh after losing eight straight. So maybe chill with the booze up there in Cincinnati.

SPEAKER_05 23:44

Yeah, I I well, you know, they had just come off an eight-game winning streak. They were in they were in first place. They had a like a three-game lead in first place when the week started, and now they're in last place, but they're still two games above 500.

SPEAKER_03 24:00

I didn't realize they went on that eight-game skid, Josh, and I looked, I was like, hell, there's still two games over 500. What the Raiders on an eight-game skid would be 12 games under.

SPEAKER_05 24:09

Yeah, yeah. Like I said, they had they had won eight games in a row prior to that.

SPEAKER_04 24:13

So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:14

But I mean, Cincinnati fans, like there's ups and downs of the season.

SPEAKER_05 24:20

Yeah, they don't usually boot boot boo like that and that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_01 24:24

Yeah, you're not even gonna get it. And don't get me wrong, they were playing, it was a bad game, right? They lost 10 to nothing.

SPEAKER_03 24:30

Okay, I get it was a bad game. The good news is is Rangers with a 7-1 lead, but in call your he has walked the bases loaded.

SPEAKER_05 24:38

I saw you're you're paying a whole lot more attention to that 7-to-1 game than what you showed out of the corner of your eye. So yes, yes, I think I I knew something was not happening. Right. So we'll have a we'll win seven to one and use burn five fucking pictures.

SPEAKER_01 24:55

Yeah. Uh last note on the Houston Cincinnati series, the Astros still suck. Uh, the Rocks are at the Phillies, and the Phillies take two out of three. Bohm had a two-homer day as he's trying to get out of his rut. Uh, the Phillies have been playing very well since uh Madalie took the rein. So we'll see how that goes the rest of the season. Still have a tough, uh, very steep hill to climb called the Atlanta Braves. Um, the Fish took two out of three from the Nats. James Wood hit a 448-foot homer, and that was pretty much the highlight of the series. Um, the Yanks and the Brew Crew, Max versus the Miz in game one. Uh, the Miz looked absolutely disgusting. 11 strikeouts in six innings, 10 pitches thrown at 103 miles an hour.

SPEAKER_03 25:41

I was gonna say, doesn't he have like 17 of the 21 fastest pitches thrown by a starter this year? Yes.

SPEAKER_05 25:48

Oh, yeah. You know, and I, you know, I think it's just I hate to say it, but you know, he's I see, you know, he's gonna have a TJ or an elbow or something by September. I mean, he's just it's max effort and throwing as hard as he can every time, and you know, it's just and not just the fastball.

SPEAKER_01 26:08

I mean, the torque on every slider or sweeper or whatever they call them these days. Yeah, it's spin, spin, spin, or vLo, vlo, vlo. Yeah, yeah. So um, hopefully that's not the case. You know, I'm pretty sure there's mechanics that can prevent your your shoulder and and elbow from just completely blowing out. Um, and there's also not going max effort. Uh, we'll talk a little bit about one guy that knows how to pace himself here in a little bit. Um, all right. So uh Wilson, I'm sorry, William Contreras walked off game two after Schlitler threw a gym. Uh Tarang also walked off game three with a solo shot off of David Fednar and the Brewers and the Yankees. Uh the Snakes take two out of three from the Mets because the Mets are freaking terrible. Um, future NLCS matchup between the Braves and the Dodgers. Otani and Tucker had RBI in game one. Freddie Homer against his old team, and the boys in blue took the first one. Uh, Strider versus Snell in game two. Strider, six innings pitched, one hit, no runs, eight K's, two walks. Um, and Snell was bad as he didn't make it past the third. Elder versus Roblesky in game three, and this is the guy I was talking about. Um, so they've been two of the best pitchers in baseball so far this season. Um, I think actually, Slade, dude, you gave Roblesky pitcher of the week last week or pitcher of the month, like that. Um, so Elder shut LA down, but Robleski got rocked for seven runs. But here's what impresses me, guys. He still went eight and two thirds innings, just took one for the team, still threw 100 pitches, went out there and got pulled. I mean, I honestly at that point, he he got pulled right after a home run. Um, it was the seventh run of the game. It was the score was seven to two. I mean, I might as well just let him get the last out.

SPEAKER_03 28:06

What are we doing here?

SPEAKER_01 28:06

Yeah, right. Um, but really took one for the team, and he's one of those guys that knows how to pace himself um and not just look for the strikeout at all times and and make sure that he can go the distance. So those are the kind of pictures we that we old dogs like. Um, last but not least, pirates at the Giants. Uh the Giants win the bread games as their big bats have started to heat up. Uh, game two was an ashcraft gym, and a root pumping is the Bucks had a season high 20 hits. Um, but San Francisco does end up taking two out of three.

SPEAKER_03 28:40

You said it was an ass craft gym.

SPEAKER_01 28:44

That too. Yeah. Um, all right. That's all I got for the National League, fellas. Who's got some standings? Pops.

SPEAKER_05 28:53

All right. Uh, so the the Braves are just uh run running away with the division. Nine nine-game lead over the Phillies and the Nationals. Both both both teams won tonight. Uh, like you said, the Braves uh took two out of three from the Dodgers. They're they took the first one from the Cubs tonight. So we'll see how the rest of that series goes. But um that's really good. Can you guys hear me? Yep, we got you. Okay, I get uh and then um yeah, so uh and then in the central, the Cubs went on their second 10-game winning streak. They just almost never lose at home until tonight. Uh I think they they lost their 10-game home uh winning streak total against the Rangers, and then I think they had like a 14-game winning streak at home, which ended tonight against the Braves. Um the Brewers are you know, they're on a four-game heater, they're coming. They're coming, so we'll see how you know they're just kind of one of those teams that's always there. Uh the Cardinals. Yeah, the Cardinals have lost, have lost, lost two in a row. They're playing in Oakland tonight or Sacramento. Uh, so there's a lot of lot of runs early in that game. So that'll be interesting to see. And then uh the Pirates, they should have, I don't know what if they won tonight, but they had Skeens going. But they're they're kind of in the fourth, fourth spot. Uh just kind of, you know, that whole it's all really bunched up. So yeah, they they did win. It looks like Skeens got his got his win. And then uh we talked about the yeah, then we talked about the Reds, right? Who had an eight-game winning streak and then an eight-game losing streak and went from uh first to worst. Um but uh that central division is still every team over 500. So um, you know, I think uh and then in the West, it's the Dodgers and the Phillies or Padres, um, same identical record. Uh, you know, this is uh people in the media are starting to get nervous about the Dodgers, but this is what the Dodgers did last year, right? I mean, I just there's too much talent, there's 162 games to go. Um Otani's basically the best pitcher in the major leagues right now. Yeah. Uh and then uh they got Mookie back tonight last night or tonight. It didn't help, it didn't help them, but he's back. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:15

At least it gives them some depth. I mean, Hasakim is not the answer at shortstop. He is he does not play very well defensively. He's not he certainly doesn't have the bat that Mookie Bats does.

SPEAKER_05 31:27

But yeah, and his his brother's back in the lineup for the Braves now.

SPEAKER_01 31:31

So oh, he's is he back from the engines?

SPEAKER_05 31:36

Yeah, he was playing he played tonight. And then the dog the Giants are just even though they beat the beat the Dodgers last night, 9-3, they're just bad. Rockies are bad, and the Diamondbacks just don't have the pitching to go with all of their all of their hitting. So, you know, it'll gonna continue to be a dogfight between the Dodgers and Padres.

SPEAKER_03 31:53

Unless the pitchers are facing the Rangers.

SPEAKER_05 31:57

Yeah, I don't know. They did okay last time. Soroka less less less so tonight.

SPEAKER_01 32:02

So Soroka shut us down, but other than he got blown up real bad in one start where he gave up like seven or eight runs and and a couple of innings. Other than that, he has been pretty lights out for the rest of his starts. He's he's looked like he did against the Rangers for most of his starts, with the exception of one. So um, and Ryan Nelson, like they're starting Merrill Kelly started to pick it up. He had a good um a good showing this weekend. Um, so yeah, but they still don't have enough. Oh no, and they have no bullpen, yeah, right. They have one lefty in their bullpen, yeah, yeah, and nobody knows his name. Yeah, that's a that's why I said one lefty. You've got Paul Seawald closing out your games, and it is man, that guy makes it interesting every night, every single night. It is it is scary. You're unless you got three, you're nervous.

SPEAKER_05 33:01

Yeah, you know, I think uh we'll get to it a little bit in a minute, I'm sure, but you know, the Mets are still horrible. I sent you guys the note tonight. Jorge Polanco has missed 25 games so far this year.

SPEAKER_01 33:11

I forgot he was even a Met.

SPEAKER_05 33:13

Well, he he he replaced Polanco or Alonzo, yeah. I mean Alonzo, who um missed 24 games in like the last five years.

SPEAKER_03 33:26

Yeah, yeah. If only they could have kept someone like that, you know.

SPEAKER_01 33:30

But old Rand needs to pick it up a little bit. I'm not gonna lie. He's not representing the number 25 a little bit. He's been about 220, like seven homers, something like that. He needs to pick it up a little.

SPEAKER_03 33:41

He'd be leaving the Rangers in most categories behind Josh Young.

SPEAKER_01 33:44

100%, yeah. Um, all right, so let's talk a little bit of National League. First of all, I want y'all to give me between these four teams, who's the best team in the National League? Okay. And not just I'm not talking about record, but who who is going to be the the Brewers of this season? Braves, Cubs, Dodgers, Padres.

SPEAKER_05 34:11

For me, I think it's the Braves because they play you play so many games within your division and they've got nothing aga nothing to go against. You know, they get so many games against the Mets and the Marlins and the Nationals. Um I I think they're gonna run away with it, right? But and you say who's gonna be who's gonna be this year's Brewers? You know, they may actually be this year's Brewers exactly, because they're gonna have a great regular season record and then they'll go out in the first round of the playoffs.

SPEAKER_01 34:46

Yeah, probably. So uh what we were talking about, I want to say at the beginning of the season, we were talking about the in-least being just this powerhouse, right?

SPEAKER_00 34:59

With the race in the Mets.

SPEAKER_01 35:02

And it's turning into the the one where you may only have one team that's over 500 in that division. And now the central is the is the powerhouse. Uh I'm I'm not gonna lie, I'm completely surprised by the Padres.

SPEAKER_03 35:20

Um, and how many you said that you thought they were just a bad team in that beginning of the year, didn't you?

SPEAKER_01 35:25

I did, yeah. I said they just didn't do enough, and they don't look like a good team. And you look up and down their lineup, I mean they have some some star power with Tatis Jr., who's homerless so far for the season.

SPEAKER_05 35:37

But that doesn't stop them from batting him cleanup.

SPEAKER_01 35:40

Yeah. Um uh Machado, and Machado's batting, I mean, he's batting like 210. You know, so it's not even those guys that are that are really getting it done. I mean, they do have some timely hitting. Bogart's has been probably their best hitter, but uh, you know, it's just Shohei Otani's got to figure it out up there in LA because he is in the midst of a huge slump, probably the worst of his career, and he's taking two points. He's always been a guy that is a little bit prone to do the whole you know, ass out lunging at a curveball or a splitter or something like that on the outside part of the plate, but he's just he's rolling over everything. And when Shohei's going right, he's taking that outside fastball to dead central or left center field, and he's just rolling over everything.

SPEAKER_05 36:28

But yeah, it'll be interesting uh to see who who who steps up, and somebody may take the MVP away from him this year. He's at 233 with six home runs and 16 RBIs. Yeah, not not his normal normal year. I mean, yeah, he may get hot hot down the road, but yeah, if he loses the MVP, he's probably gonna win Cy Yun.

SPEAKER_03 36:49

I was gonna say, yeah, he's gonna have a down year where he wins the Cy Yun.

SPEAKER_01 36:57

It's crazy that we can even talk about that. Yeah. Um, so I don't did we pick a team? Um, Pops did the Braves. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 37:08

Yep. I'm gonna go back, I'm gonna go with the back-to-back World Series champions and just say, you know, it's LA. It's if it wasn't for a really hot San Diego team right now, they'd be running away with that division. And kind of similar to what what Pops is saying, you know, LA and San Diego have to play each other a lot, but other than that, I mean, yeah, you have the Diamondbacks, but you also have a really bad, struggling San Francisco team and a team in the Rockies that we all knew they are, and they're proving that they are what they are. So they still have a lot of games to play against them. And, you know, regardless if they have the best record in the league or not, I mean, I think they're gonna be there. You know, they're gonna be first or second best, I think, uh, record-wise, in the entire league. And I think they'll win that division again. I think it's hard to kick them off the mountaintop right now with the$700 million payroll. And like you said, I mean, the the biggest problem they have right now is their three-time all-star hitter is the best pitcher in the league right now. So I mean, and then you know, a couple weeks ago we were talking about Mookie bets going on the IL, and that might have made that team better for a little bit. I mean, what the hell are we talking about? So I think LA until it comes time. I mean, you gotta, like you said, Josh, a super strong central, and I think it because of that, it's gonna be hard for the for a team out of the central to have the best record because they all have to play each other so much. So I'm gonna go ahead and go with the the defending back-to-back defending World Series champs there in LA.

SPEAKER_01 38:31

Nice. Um, I'm gonna go with the Cubbies, even though they are in that tough division. I like it. Three different answers. One of us hopefully will be right.

unknown 38:39

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01 38:40

Um, so the the Cubbies uh they do have a very potent offense. I mean, it's a very deep lineup that just doesn't give up, and and there are a lot of contact guys, they don't strike out a ton. Um but you've also got they have been able to weather the IL storm so well this season, and we haven't seen that like look at Toronto and what the injuries have done to them, look at what they did to the Braves last season, look at what they did to Baltimore last season. Um, when the injury bug hits, it's not always easy um for teams to overcome that. The Dodgers kind of did it last year um because they have 12 starting pitchers and they've all, I think all of them have won a Cy Young. So, you know, you've got but I think the Cubs have have dealt with those injuries very, very well. Um and it's you know kind of a kind of a tip of the cap to them because they also have a very, very good player development system and farm system. Um Ben Brown could very well come up and be one of the best pitchers in baseball this year. Um, he looked really good. Um was it against us where he shut us down? Who was it that beat us on Friday? Was it Ben Brown?

SPEAKER_03 40:02

Mighty Ben TJ's hitting his dashboard right now, telling us who it is. I'll tell you that much.

SPEAKER_01 40:06

Right, yeah. Um, but uh I think they've weathered the storm very well with their injuries. Atlanta's done the same thing, right? Having a whole pitching rotation on the I. L. Now they're getting a strider back. Sale seems to be Chris Sale of old. Um, so honestly, I think any one of us has a legit chance to be right about this question.

SPEAKER_03 40:29

But it wasn't but he only went four innings, so he didn't get the win, but four shutout innings. Yeah, but he was supposed to be an opener, he was supposed to go one or two, yeah. But when you're facing the rangers, too.

SPEAKER_05 40:43

He only threw 18 pitches in four innings. But you know, the one thing the Cubs do better than anybody in baseball, and that is catch the damn ball.

SPEAKER_04 40:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 40:57

I saw something on Twitter. They were they were kind of being facetious, but they said basically, who's it? Um Tuck uh PCA and somebody else. They could basically play a two-man outfield and stick somebody else on the infield. Yeah, because they cover so much ground.

SPEAKER_01 41:13

Yeah. I mean, you've got uh how many gold gloves in a row has one? Three or four? Yep. And then PCA got one last year, and then look at the infield. How many gold gloves you got there with Horner and Dans being pregnant? It's crazy. It's crazy what they do. They they catch the freaking ball. So um, all right. Well, that's all I got for the National League. Um, so let's get into uh Bobby Cox and Ted Turner, right? So um the two Atlanta Braves legends, and yes, I think Bobby Cox is more so. Um but uh one thing about Ted Turner, um, you know, obviously he had other things going on other than the Braves, right? He was the founder of CNN, right? Um big media mogul mostly, um, but did own the Braves for what 30 years? He was the only one.

SPEAKER_05 42:09

I think he he finally divested in fully in 18, I believe it was.

SPEAKER_01 42:14

Okay. So but he he gave up kind of he wasn't really in charge of he wasn't active in it.

SPEAKER_05 42:24

Right, he gave up data day-to-day control about the uh about the time they started winning.

SPEAKER_01 42:30

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_05 42:32

And he was that was a quote from him, too.

SPEAKER_01 42:34

Yeah, yeah, Jerry Jones will take a take a look at you know Ted Turner. Yeah, right. I think he bought him in 1976, if I remember right. Yeah. Um, obviously, he was the owner um when they won the World Series in 1995. Um, also, you know, not baseball related, but he was the owner of WCW, which I was a huge fan of growing up.

SPEAKER_02 43:01

I remember watching all those pay-per-views at your house.

SPEAKER_01 43:03

Hell yeah. Um, and me and Adam power bombing each other and spearing each other onto beds. We we broke many beds by doing wrestling moves on each other. Used to piss Mima and and and mom off real bad.

SPEAKER_03 43:18

Um more when he found out the check he had to write to get you a new bed.

SPEAKER_01 43:22

So yeah, it was uh it was some good times, but um, but yeah, mostly um, you know, he was he was just a big medium mogul married to Jane Fonda. Didn't realize that until I started reading.

SPEAKER_05 43:37

They were married for a long time. That kind of stuff. You know, I mean he he changed the way people consume news, right? With CNN. You know, there was no there was no 24 hour news news at all, right? It was six and ten, and that was that was that was it. And then uh he changed that, and then you know, his his so his favorite movie was ever was Gone with the Wind. And he so he got real interested interested in making sure. That there were prints available for future generations to be able to see that. So that's what got him into uh that's why he bought and started up uh Turner Classic movies.

SPEAKER_04 44:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 44:12

Um, so you know, uh just a lot of kind of lot of a lot of stuff. Started the Goodwill Games, um, which is kind of a one-off to the Olympics. Uh he was instrumental in getting the Olympics to Atlanta in uh in '96. Um a lot of uh philanthropy, uh, helped a lot of people. Um, so just uh outspoken, obnoxious, arrogant, uh, but did a lot of good things to help a lot of people.

SPEAKER_03 44:39

Yeah. Yeah, started you know, TNT, TBS.

SPEAKER_05 44:42

I mean, yeah, he was he was famous for the 05. All right, so you guys may not re probably aren't old enough to remember. So instead of starting at 7 o'clock, his shows would start at 7.05.

SPEAKER_00 44:56

Wow.

SPEAKER_05 44:57

So the thought process was that you would he would have that show would be lasted, would last until you know whatever, 7:35. So and you would you would stay through that show, and you would and you would have missed the beginning of the other of the show on the other network, so you would just stick with his network through stay on his network because you were five minutes behind everything.

SPEAKER_03 45:18

He was the first one too, the what to to like regionalize the Braves, right? The first team that the first sports team that you know wasn't just localized, and that's why you have you know, and then in the South at the time, right there, you didn't have a lot of major league teams, so that's why that's why my dad's mom in Shreveport, Louisiana, was a Braves fan her entire life because she got to watch every Braves game.

SPEAKER_01 45:41

Yeah, well, and that's that's the thing, right? I saw more Braves games when I was a kid than I did Rangers games on TV, anyway, right? Like, because it was every day there was a it was TBS and it was WGM. I watched more Cubs games and more Braves games than I did Rangers games. Um, so yeah, he was a bit of a pioneer. Um, not bit of, he was he was a huge pioneer in the media world. Um, and then Bobby Cox, uh legendary manager. Pop G said it earlier, 14 straight division titles, 16 playoff appearances, which is the most all time, fourth um most wins of any manager. Um did it for the Braves for all those wonder years. And it's easy to say, yeah, anybody could have won with Maddox and Smoltz and Glavin and Chipper and McGriff. Um, but I think what people probably don't give him credit for is having to manage superstars like Maddox and Glavin and Smoltz. I mean, you know, you you hear the way Smoltz he talks on the on the vlog.

SPEAKER_05 46:50

He was him and Chipper were probably both handfuls.

SPEAKER_03 46:54

Right. Yeah. So um, but they all seem like they, you know, I saw a documentary on him, I guess telling you guys about before we hopped on, and they they all saw him as a father. And he said that he hung on and played longer because of Bobby Cox, you know, and and and it wasn't just about baseball as life advice, you know, dealing with like a guy like Smoltz, you know, for your whole career who's a kid and then becomes a man, you know, and but he has he has the same figure to look up to for his entire professional career, going, you know, probably talking them from making the transition from starter to a freaking elite closer, right? And like you said, Chipper Jones coming out, knocking up Hooter's waitresses, being a top prospect and calming him down and making him not making him, but helping him become an elite player. And I heard a story, Smaltzy uh during spring training had a chance to go play around at Augusta with Tiger Woods, and he was super nervous, and it was going to be on a Sunday, so he got all his work in on Saturday. He said he was super nervous because kind of walked in the office, had his whole spiel set up. Hey, you know, I got all my work in today, light day Sunday. This is, you know, I need to go play. Tiger Woods asked me to go play golf, but you want me to stay, stay. And he said he just looked at him and said, Hey man, I'll see you on Monday. Do not miss out an opportunity to play at Augusta with Tiger Woods. Right.

SPEAKER_02 48:13

It's spring training. Have fun. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 48:16

Well, you know, the other record that he holds.

SPEAKER_03 48:18

Yeah. It'd be different, I guess, if uh Kyle Hagashioska asked that question.

SPEAKER_05 48:24

Yeah, you know, the other record that he holds is the most injections ever. You know, he was inject, he was injected more than a full season worth of games. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 48:34

I didn't know that. I thought it was 159. I thought it was close.

SPEAKER_05 48:38

No, he he got this, he got the poll, he got over 162. I don't remember the exact number, but it was over. And they they used to, Maddox used to feed him stuff on the bench and tell him, oh, oh yeah, I can't believe he called that a strike or whatever, just to go out there and get him to get injected and go out there and argue with the guy.

SPEAKER_03 48:56

And then I saw, did y'all see? I don't know what year it was. He obviously was retired and he threw out the inaugural first pitch for a game, and he threw it out, and he went to the umpires or shaking their hands. The home plate umpire threw him out of the game. And Cox just started cracking up.

SPEAKER_01 49:11

The whole Brave dugout was laughing. It was pretty awesome. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty, pretty good stuff. There were definitely some times. Uh, but that's surprising that he has the. I mean, I I saw guys like Lou Piniella just go nuts on a on a baseball field. Um pops back from your day, Billy Martin, you know, Billy Martin or Earl Weaver.

SPEAKER_05 49:34

Yeah, yeah, they would let uh there was a time they would let the managers go and go and go and not throw them out, you know. And I've sent you guys highlights of basically who was it, Breg, George Brett, and I think Craig Nettles. When they were at third base, basically threw punches and they just they separated them, said, All right, boys, let's get back to playing, right? I mean, they didn't throw either one of them out.

SPEAKER_01 49:57

That's that's pretty crazy, yeah. Yeah, I mean, what was it a couple weeks ago? Solaire got suspended for was it seven games? Seven suspension for charging the mound.

SPEAKER_05 50:12

Yeah, yeah. And then what might have been might have been trying to trying to brain that guy, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:19

But okay. Um, so yeah, but two really great Atlanta Braves careers. Um, like I said, I mean I saw a lot of Bobby Cox, um a lot of Atlanta Braves, thanks to Ted Turner and uh TBS, and um yeah, just a couple legendary Atlanta Braves guys. So um gone on to meet their maker. I think they were 87 and 86 years old, and they passed away within like two days of each other. Yep. I think it was the sixth and the eighth. Uh they they passed away. So um, all right, Pops, do you have the worst of the week for us?

SPEAKER_05 51:03

I do. All right, we'll start with the pitchers. Um, just because we we just can't not have one of these guys on here. Um Tamoyuki Sagano, the Colorado Rocky. Uh two starts, 7.84 ERA, uh 1.26 whip, which isn't isn't isn't terrible, but uh 0-2, two starts, just uh just a brutal week. And then Shane Baez in Baltimore, 8.71 ERA with the 1.74 whip. Um, you know, same thing, 0-2, two starts. Uh, you know, Baltimore is just kind of uh an interesting story. They just, you know, everybody, you know, all of all of us here, you know, really thought that they were gonna turn the page, and uh they just they just haven't. So um, you know, it's been been interesting. So those are the pitchers. Um and the uh for the uh from the offensive side, Ryan O'Hearn of the of the Pirates, who had really started off strong. Um 4 for 22, 182 batting average, 432 um you know, slug, or uh OPS, just just a two 250 on base, just a tough, tough week. Um four strikeouts, two walks, uh, two RBIs, no home runs, but uh just a brutal week for a team that's trying to trying to do some some good things. And then uh like we talked in the pregame, you know, I just I can't I have a hard time picking a ranger um that's not named Jock Peterson uh for the for the suck. So I went with Dylan Dingler of the Tigers. Um 24 bats, three RBIs, 125, uh 160, 208 slat. Uh and just um yeah. Bad bad, bad week. Seven strikeouts, one walk, um, three three hits and 24 bats. So, you know, one 160 uh on base, 208 slug, and a 368 OPS. So uh that's a that's a tough week for a guy that uh a team going through tough a tough time with Scoobal on the DL. And you know, he's a guy that they they had been they've been able to count on, really. Yeah. And and he just hasn't didn't didn't do it when they when they really needed it. So he was my needs some help, guys.

unknown 53:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 53:43

Slay dude, who you got for the players and pitchers of the week?

SPEAKER_03 53:47

So for the exact opposite here, right? So I'm going to take um, so for my NL player of the week, surprise, surprise here. This guy's been hot all year, one of the best teams in baseball on Andy Page's or Pajes, I guess. Is that how you're supposed to pronounce it? With one of the most amazing catches in World Series history. We absolutely he uh trucked Kiki, but that was pretty cool. But that guy just remains hot. He's doing unbelievable. He went nine for 23 this week, four runs scored, four home runs, eight RBIs. Uh only struck out once, walked once. That guy's been just unbelievable. My offensive player of the week, Josh, you alluded to him earlier, having a good series there in Minnesota. Old Mr. Buxton. Oh, yeah. You know, did great. So uh, you know, he went only eight for 28, but seven RBIs, five runs scored, and three uh three home runs. So good for Byron, good for Minnesota, keeping them somewhat alive as everybody is in that in that division. But my pitchers of the week, I've got to give it to a Mr. Christopher Sanchez. All that guy did was get two wins, two quality starts. He had 15 innings pitched uh between Colorado and thank you very much for beating the not Oakland Athletics. Had eight innings pitched in 10K's against them, didn't give up any runs, dude, and 15 innings pitched. He did so well that the MLB decided to name him Player of the Week. How about that? Oh, wow. Yep, so good for him. He you know he on it was opening day, and we had no idea what the Rangers looked like, but Manity shoved up our ass that day. So, and even skipped Schumacher. That was this obviously his first press conference as the Rangers manager and just said tough conditions. You know, it was cold and windy up there. He goes, But man, it was gonna be tough for anybody to do anything against Sanchez. And it looks like we're not the only ones having those problems, and I'm happy he did it to the team that's leading the division. The MLB did pick Bobby Witt Jr. as the player of the week for the American League. Hard to disagree with that. The only reason I gave it to Buckdaddy was because uh, you know, Bobby Witt did have 10 hits this week, so 10 for 23, pretty amazing, helping that team stay afloat there in the central. But Buck Daddy did have one more home run and four more RBIs, so that's why I gave it to Buck Daddy this week. Good deal. And I think, let's see, I think for oh, my picture of the week in the American League. Uh, don't want to do it. It sucks. DeGrom was up there, but you forgot that he gave up six hundred runs against the Yankees after a freaking awesome start yesterday, but we'll give it to uh Peter Lambert from Houston. 14 innings pitched, one win, one loss, lost against Seattle, and gave up three runs, but no runs against the Dodgers, seven innings pitch. So good for uh good for him. I don't want to do it, but uh the stats say that that's the right thing to do this week. So there you go.

SPEAKER_01 56:43

Well, and the Astros need they need one guy in their rotation to start in the guys out, right?

SPEAKER_03 56:49

In effect to get it against the Dodgers. I mean, how about that, right?

SPEAKER_01 56:53

So yeah, all right, good stuff. Y'all ready for a little trivia? Yeah, sure. All right, here we go. All right, so earlier in the episode, I mentioned Kevin Gossman with 2,000 strikeouts. He is the sixth, he's the sixth, one of only six current players uh to have 2,000 strikeouts. So can you name me the other five?

SPEAKER_05 57:19

Verlander Scherzer Sale.

SPEAKER_01 57:23

Scherzer sale. Scherzer and sale, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 57:27

He didn't make it, but I saw the drum on Sunday. Got his 1900th.

SPEAKER_01 57:31

Yeah, so he should be the fastest uh as far as game play to do that, by the way. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 57:37

So he is on his next start, he should get there, he should be number seven.

SPEAKER_01 57:42

Uh we got Scherzinger, Garrett Cole. Garrett Cole, yes. One more. And this one's a little tricky because I didn't I didn't think he was still active. So, but I guess he maybe he's still just on the IL for now. But he's out for the rest of the season.

SPEAKER_03 58:06

Former Ranger, great. Not Martin Perez.

SPEAKER_05 58:10

No, because he's he's he's pitched long enough, but he only strikes out about two a game.

SPEAKER_01 58:17

No, I mean, you'd be surprised. I'm gonna go through some of the names on this list. You'd be surprised. Martin Perez is up there.

SPEAKER_05 58:23

Is he?

SPEAKER_01 58:24

Yeah, I mean, he's pits forever. Yeah, we actually did a segment on him early in the season. Maybe I think it was before the season actually started, maybe. Elbows blown out, done for the season, thinking about calling it calling it quits and hanging up his cleats.

SPEAKER_03 58:56

Yes, he has 2,000 strikeouts.

SPEAKER_05 58:59

Yes, holy that one that one that one doesn't really surprise surprise me. I mean, he's again, same thing. He's played a long, a long time with a lot of strikeouts, but he has missed like eight eighteen or twenty seasons with arms arm trouble.

SPEAKER_01 59:13

So there's you got you got Verlander one, Scherzer two, Sail three, Cole four, Darvish five, Gosman six. Guess who's number seven? We're just gonna go through like the top ten or or twelve. It's gotta be degram, right?

SPEAKER_05 59:30

He's a he's in like 1996 or 1998. Is there somebody between him and 1900? Yeah, oh, is it just 19?

SPEAKER_03 59:37

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_05 59:38

All right, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:39

So then you say you could probably get their next game. I thought you were being funny.

SPEAKER_05 59:42

No, I thought I for some reason I thought it was like he had gotten like 1996, but I guess it was just 1900. All right. So de grom. Okay. Oh wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 59:55

Just only two between him and I really think he'd be like the two people in between Gossman and De Grom, I think, are gonna surprise you. And the one behind the Grom.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:04

Where's Fromber? Where's Fromber?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:06

Fromber, Fromber, Fromber.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:11

Way down the road, then yeah, he's down there.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:13

Oh 31. He's leading the league and hit catchers on purpose, though. So that's yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:20

The guy that I thought was Martin Perez in the picture is not Martin Perez, so that's my bad idea.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:26

Uh Zach Zach, where's Zach Wheeler? Isn't he like old as hell? 11. No, very good. Um Merrill Kelly.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:36

Merrill Kelly is a good guess. But oh, Fromber is number 38. Just saw him. Where is Merrill Kelly?

SPEAKER_05 1:00:48

I guess not even not even in the ballpark.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:50

Eavaldi? That's weird. Iavaldi. Uh just saw him. Number 15.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:57

Okay, not far off. We're still missing what seven and eight?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:03

Yeah, you're missing the two in between between Gosman and DeGrom.

unknown 1:01:09

St.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:09

Louis is paying one of them to play in Boston.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:13

Oh, grey. Sunny gray.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:16

And then the other one's part of the great pitching staff in Philadelphia.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:24

So we said Wheeler's 11th.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:29

So he has more than Wheeler. Is it Lazardo?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:32

No. It's not Sanchez, not Lazardo, it's not Nola.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:38

It is Nola. It's gotta be Nola. What? It's gotta be Nola. He's the only other guy.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:41

Holy crap. I would have never guessed that.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:44

1920. Right? Would you think that Aaron Nola had more career strikeouts than Jacob de Grom?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:50

No.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:51

No. But yeah, I mean it just says a lot more about um de Grom not being healthy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:03

All right. Guess who's behind DeGrom? Also a former Ranger great.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:07

Oh, um, what's his name? Colby Davis. What's his name? Oh, he's not active. That's right. Are you talking about big game uh Lewis?

SPEAKER_03 1:02:19

Colby Lewis. You combine uh the great Chris Davis and Colby Lewis.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:25

Yes, I had some former Ranger, still pitching. For us one year, still pitching. Currently with Toronto.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:40

Oh, Hobie Milner.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:42

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:44

He's with the Cubs. That's good.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:46

That's good. And he has 27 career strikes. And he's a relief pitcher.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:53

Middle relief pitcher.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:57

And a left-handed specialist.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:59

Yeah, throws 78 miles an hour on a good day. He pitched one season. And he's in Toronto?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:10

He's in Toronto this season, yeah. Washington National great.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:24

Oh, Alfonso Soriano. No.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:30

He has 2,000 try guys at the plate. Oh.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:36

He actually probably does. Pitched for us last year. Oh, Jason Sabores.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:45

No, not Josh Wars. It's it Corbin.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:49

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:50

Patrick Corbin.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:52

Number 10, right behind DeGrom.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:54

What? Wow.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:55

Yeah.

unknown 1:03:56

Wow. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:57

DeGrom's got 1908. Patrick Corbin has 1881. It's a good year.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:04

Well, that's crazy. We, you know, I mean we talked about him last year a lot. Obviously, he had a great year for the Rangers, but for the three or four years prior to that, when he was healthy, he was he was literally the statistically the worst pitcher in baseball.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:19

Chris Sales got to get to 3,000 right. He's 2635 right now. He's 37 years old. He stays if he's able to finish.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:44

Well, the first the first thing he's got to do is pitch, right? I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:48

So he's got he's 35 and he's at 2251.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:54

Oh man. That's that's that's four years.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:58

Yeah, he's got a lot. Four years of 200 strikeouts.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:04

And with him, the same thing, right? Just staying available.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:09

Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll see. We'll see how it goes. JV 3554. My god. Still going.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:24

Max Scherzer.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:25

Max Scherzer is one away from a milestone. One more strikeout, and he's at 3500.

unknown 1:05:31

Wow.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:33

Well, you know, I both both of those guys to me definitely definitely first first ballot. Oh, yeah, no doubt.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:40

Yeah. That brings up another what how much time? Oh, I was gonna say, how many pitchers got 3,500 strikeouts or more pops?

SPEAKER_05 1:05:50

Man, there's um it's a short list. It's a short list. I mean, you got you got uh Ryan, you got Carlton, you got um

SPEAKER_02 1:06:00

Ren Gibson take me in it.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:03

Yeah, Ren yeah, um Bob Gibson, Walter Johnson. Um Gibson might not have gotten to 3500. Forever it was Walter Johnson at 3508. Cope Kopax didn't pitch enough.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:38

Let's see. Nolan Ryan, definitely number one, Randy Johnson. Then you got Clemens and Carlton. Oh, Clemens, yes. Those are the four over 4,000. And then you got Bly Levin.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:56

Steve Tommy Boy.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:59

Don Sutton.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:03

Yeah, but Gibson didn't make it. He he got to 3,100. So he but when he retired, he was second on the list behind um what's his name? Walter Johnson. And then Gaylord Perry, Walter Johnson, and that's it. So there's 10 guys. And then Max will be 11.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:23

Yeah. I'll see. I thought Maddox got there. He was close. Just understand.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:29

Yeah, he just didn't strike out, guys. Not a bad thing. That's like 23 seasons, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:39

He did play forever, yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:42

5,000 innings pitched.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:44

Hey, did y'all know that Greg Maddox was born in Texas?

SPEAKER_05 1:07:48

I did not.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:49

San Angelo, West Texas boy.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:53

I didn't stay here long.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:55

Because I feel like he was a pretty decent strikeout guy. But you're also, you know, you got Roger Clemens, Kurt Schilling, and Randy Johnson. You're going up against two. Let's see, strikeouts. For Maddox, he was not a huge strikeout guy. He only struck out 200 writers one time.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:18

Yeah, like I just said, babe. His 162 game average was 154.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:33

Yeah. Later in his career, there were several years where he didn't even strike out 100 matters.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:39

Yeah. Let me see. We get into some advanced stats. What's his KK rate was 16.5%.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:57

I don't even know what's good.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:00

Well, let's pull up the best and compare him to that.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:04

You know what is good? Four Cy Young's in a row. That's true.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:10

So Ryan Ryan was Ryan was 25.3%. So rate gets you about 150 strikeouts a year, be my guess.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:24

Makes sense.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:37

His 162 game average was 246. That's all right.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:45

Didn't he start was it 381? Is that is that the second one?

SPEAKER_05 1:09:50

No, he has he has he he has the record 383. 383. He beat Kopax by two, by one. Kopak's had 382. But yeah, he had um three years in a row and five years in six where he struck out 300. He must have been hurt in 75. But he led the league in strikeouts seven out of eight years. 75 being the the one-off when he only threw well.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:25

Yeah, and Pops, I'm pretty sure he has the lowest batting average against of any starting pitcher in history. And we know about the most no-hitters in history, but not close. He also has the most one-hitters, the most two-hitters, the most three-hitters in history.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:47

It's unbelievable.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:49

You would almost call him the most unhittable pitcher in history.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:54

Oh, yeah, for sure.

unknown 1:10:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:58

Batting average against what would you guess?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:03

Um this might not be fair because I think I've seen it before. Uh, like 204.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:10

That's dead on. And remember, he retired in 1993 when people were still hitting 350.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:16

Right, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:22

Brady 350. Never want, never want to sell him.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:29

Wow. Yeah, that's pretty crazy. He so and he had a great year with Houston where he led them to the playoffs, and he had an ERA of like 1.76 or something like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:43

So let me see.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:48

I don't remember who beat him out though.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:52

So he finished fourth in the Cy Young. So 1981, he was old, and that was strike shortened. Um, uh so they he had a 1.69 ERA in 1981 with the Astros was 11 and 5. But then the create the crazy year was 87 when he had a 2.76 ERA. Um and was 8 and 16.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:18

With that ERA. So who won it in 81 Pops?

SPEAKER_05 1:12:27

Uh I my guess is if I had to if I had to guess, uh look it up, but if I had to guess, I would say it would be uh that was that was uh Fernando. No, that was Fernando.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:37

Oh, Venezuela? Was that the year he started off like 5-0?

SPEAKER_05 1:12:43

Yeah, he that was he probably was rookie of the year that year, too, probably.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:49

All right. Pretty good stuff.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:52

He was. He was both.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:54

All right. Well, fellas, do you have anything so we don't run long? We're good. I think we're good to go. All right. Well, there we go. Um, thank you everybody for joining us uh for another episode of the MLB Clubhouse with the Jimmies. If you like what we're doing, support the show. Check us out on Facebook, on X, on Instagram. Uh, leave us a like, leave us a comment. Um, for the Slay dude, Justin Slay and Wendell Pops Patterson. I'm Josh Patterson. Thank y'all, and we will talk to you again next week.