Episode 59: How Bad Does It Get For Detroit/Gerrit Cole Makes His Season Debut

Detroit Tigers have lost 16 of their last 19 games.  Will this continue or will they be able to rebound in a weak American League?

Gerrit Cole made his much anticipated debut and Tampa Bay was not ready.  But will his return be enough to put the New York Yankees back in 1st place in the AL East?

Pops and Slay Dude break down this week's best and worst.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:02

Baseball fans and baseball lovers, good day. Thank you for joining us for another episode of the MLB Jimmies. I'm sorry, MLB Clubhouse with the Jimmies. Sorry, got stuck reading my intro. MLB Jimmies. Yeah, the MLB Clubhouse with the Jimmies. Um, for the Slay dude, Justin Slay and Wendell Pops Patterson, I'm Josh Patterson. We have got some uh good baseball to talk from some surprising teams, and we've got some really bad baseball to talk for the last couple weeks. Um, there are some teams that have really crapped the bed. Um, so let's get into it, fellas. We are gonna start off in the American League. Slay, did you before I get started on the recap, did you want to come in hot for it? You want to, you know, just right off the top, talk about our Rangers and how bad their performance was this evening?

SPEAKER_01 0:50

Well, literally right before Josh, and maybe that's why you said MOB with the Jimmies, so instead of the clubhouse, because we're all just dumbfounded and astounded about the past two and a half seasons of what this offense has been, but they have not done in the past two and a half seasons what they did tonight, and that's get no hit. Combined no hit. I think it's MI, is that right? How you say his name comes in uh with averaging about 76 pitches a game, a high 94 pitches a game and an ER over ERA over eight, walks two batter, our first two batters of the game, gets out of it, proceeds to have a perfect next five innings. Houston brings in three relievers. We don't even threat. We got no hit by the Astros. This is just completely unbelievable. Wendell said it in the text earlier. I know that we have three of our, you know, we can't really call them star players because we suck, but three of our everyday players that are out being Seager, Langford, and Young, will we doing that good when all three of them win there? Absolutely not. But this lineup they threw out there tonight was absolutely ridiculous. You know, Jake Berger had the night off, but they bring him in to pinch hit for Evan Carter when we're down nine to nothing. Give the guy the night off. If Evan Carter ever needs to see left-handed pitching, it's in a game where you're either winning or losing nine to nothing. Okay. And he has a better chance of swiveling one down the third baseline for an infield single than Jake Berger missing three fastballs that are 88 miles an hour, titty high down the middle. I'm just sick of this team. I'm sick of the way they're playing. The couple times that we do hit, which really in the past week has been Friday night where we scored six runs, we give up nine. We go into LA, who at the time was the worst team in baseball. I think tied with the Rockies and still are, get shut out two games in a row, or excuse me, um, score one run two games in a row, had one hit yesterday, no hits today. Josh, you said it before, we lost on a little league play yesterday where Fosquew had a one hopper to him. All you had to do is step on the bag and roll it to first. Instead, he bobbles it when he doesn't even receive a throw, throws it, Berger misses it. It was a tough throw, but he misses it. And the guy, the guy from third scores, and we lose two to one, and we get swept in LA by the worst team in the league on national TV, by the way. That was the game of the week, which now is on Peacock. So if you're a Rangers fan, by the way, you have to have Peacock to watch their damn games too, so that's cool. So that's just another thing that's pissing me off about all this. I pay in 19 bucks a month so I can watch four of their shitty games this year, you know, that are on Peacock, which MLB is probably gonna take them off. They probably won't be on a national game the rest of the year. But this is absolutely, completely ridiculous. This is just a bad team. There's no other way to put it. I don't know where they go from here. I think I told you a while back, let some young guys play, let some guys, when someone's even on first base, hell that's gonna lay down a bunt, or when someone's on third with less than two outs, and against everybody tonight, the second baseman was playing right behind second base. And I think we hit like four to them, choke up on the bat, barely hit it to where second base would be. Let's score a run and let's play. Right. We couldn't do that tonight. We can't do that ever. You got teams like you know, Tampa Bay out there winning playing traditional small ball, uh, and they're the best team in the American League, second best team in the league. Take some notes, rant over.

SPEAKER_00 4:10

All right, well done. That was a good rant. That was a good one. I'm proud of you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 4:16

I'm kind of proud of myself. And I think last year when I had like some of my best podcasting ever, we froze and like we had to restart it. And Wendell's like, no way he can duplicate that. That's the best he sounded all year.

SPEAKER_00 4:31

All right. Uh, let's get into a little American league. Uh, the Rays fighting to stay in the ALE's lead. Garrett Cole made his much anticipated season debut, and all he did was twirl a six-inning shutdy. Uh, but Tampa Bay got the New York's bullpen for a four-run eighth inning to take game one. Game two was postponed. Drew Rasmus, well, Rasmussen and Ryan Weathers both tossed seven innings of shutout ball in game three. But Aaron Judge, you might have heard of him, walked it off with a two-run Jimmy Jack, and they split the two-game set. My Pirates visited the Jays for three. Gossman Pitts into the seventh in game one. Chandler had to battle three Pittsburgh Airs, and Toronto ended up taking the first one six to two. Former Ranger great Patrick Corman turned in his best start of the season against Paul Skeens. Uh George Springer hit his 65th leadoff homer of his career. Who knows the record?

SPEAKER_03 5:27

Uh, it's Ricky. It's 100. So this is uh what was it, 120?

SPEAKER_00 5:34

No, I don't think so. I think it was 81. I think it was 81 leadoff homers. But he does hold the record. But we can look it up. It was a lot. 81. Remember the trivia question was how who broke or who ended the most no-hitters in history or something, and it was Ricky with the 8 81. I think it was 81. Either way, that's a lot. 65's a lot. I don't I don't know who's in between Springer and Ricky, but he's he's got to be up there towards the top. Um, the Jays ended up taking game two, five to two. Skeens has not looked normal Skeens. Um, for the well, he's had a couple of starts where he went really, really good. Um, you know, like seven shutout innings or something like that. I think he took a no-hitter into the seventh inning a couple times, and then uh has had like three or four starts this year where he got kind of got roughed up a little bit. Um, but O'Neill Cruz, Spencer Horowitz, and Esmerlin Valdez all hit homers for the Bucs in game three. From Valdez, that was his first career hit. Pittsburgh salvages the set, but Toronto takes two out of three. Minnesota at Boston, and nobody cares. Twins sweep that set. Baltimore takes two of three, and Detroit has lost 16 of their last 19 games. We're gonna talk a lot about Detroit later. Um, Seattle at Kansas City, Gilbert and Cameron both turned in solid starts in game one. Um, as a Mitch Garver two-run homer are the only runs that were scored in that one. The Royals rebound in game two as Steven Koelick threw a complete game shutout. Uh, they singled each other to death in game three, but Kansas City pulls out the victory thanks to a salvy two-run single. The Royals take two out of three. And then we already talked about it, another disappointing series for our Rangers as they got swept by the worst team in baseball. So that's everything I got for the American League. Slady, do you have some standings for me? I do.

SPEAKER_01 7:39

And in the East and the Central Boys, we're getting some separation finally, and not from the team that you would think in the East, or not from the past couple months, or excuse me, past month, anyways, you would expect it, because I think we've talked about them every single week. Tampa Bay, three and a half game lead over those Yankees. Now they've lost two in a row. Yankees have won two in a row. They still have a three and a half game lead. So it tells you kind of what directions they're going in, both playing about 500 ball. Tampa Bay won game better than them through the last 10. Toronto's trying to creep a little bit closer towards that 500 mark. They're still three games under. We will see. I think we talked about them last week. I think Pops was the one saying, or maybe it was me or Josh, maybe it was you. We got a 33% chance here that maybe that Toronto is going to make the playoffs because they've still got a lot of season left. In the central, we have a red-hot Cleveland team, even with losing their last game, eight and two in their last 10. Chicago is the only other team in that division, 27-26 over 500. But Cleveland has now built a three and a half game lead. Boys, they're eight games over 500. How about that? Everyone else is kind of doing what they do, besides, like you said, Josh, Detroit. This is an absolute collapse. They're done. You kind of said it. It's kind of crazy to think when you have a guy that goes out there and plays every five days, but obviously a back-to-back Saiyoung uh award winner, deservingly so fighting for a big contract. But how that just can completely gut a team. And out in Westboys, it's completely mediocre. Every team in our division right now, in their last 10 games, is either five and five or six and four. So good for them. Uh Houston's on a four-game heater after beating TJ's Cubby. Sorry about that, including uh the fourth game being tonight. LA, I don't think they've played so uh yet, but of course, like we said, what they just uh swept us, they don't play till tomorrow, but they might get another sweep because they're playing Detroit, okay? But uh it's kind of what I got for you as of right now, boys. Still, the Chicago White Sox would be a wild card team. So that's pretty cool. I'm rooting for them. Why not? Let's go.

SPEAKER_00 9:37

Let's go. All right, good stuff there, Slay dude. So you you talked about Detroit and you talked about Scooby. Um so 16 of their last 19 games. Now, I'm sure y'all remember their epic collapse last season at the end of the season there, um, when Cleveland ended up making up, was it 15 games the last month?

SPEAKER_01 10:06

Uh yeah, maybe month and a half, but it was not yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:11

So I think it was the double digits was was long a longer run than that, but but yeah, but they they it was crazy.

SPEAKER_00 10:20

So between the last month of last season and the first couple months of this season, it's been pretty ugly for Detroit. Um, and yes, they are banged up. The only the uh you know they have uh Scoobyl on the shelf right now, but I've heard he's already throwing bullpen. But you you you kind of don't want him to come back too fast if you're Detroit or if you're Scoobyl, right? I mean, yes, you want to get out there and you want to start winning games, but my god, dude, you got a whole career to think about, you know.

SPEAKER_01 10:54

I think it's definitely more Scuble and um what's his devil of an agent's name? Don't want him coming back too soon right now.

SPEAKER_00 11:04

Yeah. Um, so uh he's gonna be coming back. You've got JV that's on the shelf, and then you've got Jack Flaherty that's got an ERA close to six. You've got Frambert that's got an ERA close to four, or sorry, close to five. Um, so when you've got two of your big guns on the shelf, and then two of your other big guns just not getting it done. The only one that's really producing is Casey Mys, and then you know, every other start you get a good one out of Cater Montero. Um, the pitching, which was supposed to be this team's strong suit, um, hasn't been there. And the offense has kind of been Riley Green Show and nobody else. McGonagall has had moments, you know, in little streaks where he's really played very well. You know, he's batting about 280 as a rookie in this league. That's pretty damn good. Um, you're not gonna see in this league, that's good. Yeah. Um, so uh, you know, it's it's a whole lot of we didn't think they got enough in the offseason or at the trade deadline as far as offense. Um, but your guys that really carried them last year, Dingler and and Carrie Carpenter and um uh McKinstree, who was an all-star and a silver slugger last year, they're just not getting it done. And then the pitching has been pretty brutal. Do y'all see this team making a turnaround at all? Or do y'all see they're just going deeper and deeper into the hole?

SPEAKER_03 12:43

I I don't see them turning it around. Um for a lot of a lot of I I think you know, we've said it. I've I've said it. I don't think Hinch is that great of a manager. It's all about the analytics for him, and he doesn't have anybody banging on a trash can. Um I put it into the into the notes uh on uh the the thing last night they are 52 and 74 since since the all-star break last year in regular season. So um but I think if they don't get it turned around, I I I think AJ Hinch is managing somewhere else. Certainly by the end of the year, if not if not sooner, because um they they put some money into this team and they did not expect this, even even with uh Scoobyl going down. You know, so somebody's got to rally the troops there. And just so I don't see it happening.

SPEAKER_00 13:46

All-star break their 20 games back of 500. You think Hinch is gone, huh?

SPEAKER_03 13:52

Midseason. It's possible. I don't you know, I don't I don't I don't think he'll be there for next year for sure, but you know, they might try to shake it up after the all-star break to see if they can salvage something this year, yeah. Um but you know, he just yeah, he just sits there and quotes the analytics and blah blah blah, yada yada yada.

SPEAKER_00 14:10

And yeah, it well, and it it works really well until it doesn't, right? I mean analytics can only take you so far, the the players have to perform, and unfortunately, those guys haven't been doing that. You play the numbers to get yourself in in what you think is a good spot. Last couple years it worked okay for them. This is their worst start since 2022. Um, so you know, they had a good couple years, but they got to figure some other stuff out, or maybe the other teams in the league have figured them out and they need to change tactics a little bit. What do you think, Slay, dude? How bad is it gonna get?

SPEAKER_01 14:47

I'm with y'all. I don't think it's getting any better. I mean, I'm looking at a team that is lucky to play 500 ball, you know, for the rest of the season. That's very lucky considering what they've done now, and that's not gonna get it done, and they're gonna have to play amazing ball, you know. Well, maybe not amazing, but okay to maybe be in this wildcard conversation. But I think the division's over, and I didn't think about it until Pops kind of said it. I think Hinch is is definitely on the hot seat. They're trying to less, you know, just sign in Scoobyl to that one-year deal that they did this year, do arbitration, I guess to avoid arbitration, right? But uh they've put a lot of money in there. They've got an ownership team and a fan base that is ready to win. And as we've seen it in a couple other places, and they'll talk about it while Pops gets to the NL standings, but you know, a change of scenery from the leadership standpoint for someone that's been there for a little bit, that maybe is getting a little dull in the room, is maybe what they need. And I think if it's I think it's continued like this, you know, I think uh I think maybe Hinch doesn't make it through the rest of the season just to change up and say, boys, let's get ready and fire on all cylinders, hopefully for next year. But I don't I don't see Detroit snapping out of this. I mean, they're they're 10 games out, 12 games under 500 right now in their division, and that's just that's at any time of the season, but we're over a quarter of the way through, we're close to probably to a third of the way through, and they're done, I think.

SPEAKER_00 16:12

Um, so I'll go a little bit different route. I think only because the American League seems to be so bad. I mean, Slade, dude, how many teams do we have over 500?

SPEAKER_01 16:24

Right now in the American League, we have one, two, three, four. That's right. Five because Chicago's 27-26. But two weeks ago that was two, right? So, but you got uh you're over 500 teams besides the Yankees in Tampa Bay, Cleveland going on a heater 32-24, or Chicago at 27, 26, and the A's at 27 and 26. So there you go. Three. We have three teams that are legitimately over 500 right now, right?

SPEAKER_00 16:53

Yeah, so um that's the only thing. So you get Gleber Torres back, you get Javi Baez back, you get Carrie Carpenter back, Scoobyl, Verlander, you know, try to give Flaherty a week off or something, I don't know. Um, try to get his his stuff right. Um so I'll I'll give them the benefit of the doubt just because they are banged up a little bit right now. Um but having said that, I still think that they're gonna be a 500 team. I just think the AL is so bad that 500 might get you into the freaking playoffs. So um we'll we'll see how it goes. I think I think this may be a year where Cleveland runs away with it. Um, I think I think one of the reasons why I'm still a little bit higher on Detroit is because I don't think Kansas City and Minnesota are gonna really challenge anybody whatsoever. Kansas City, other than Bobby Witt Jr. and a little bit of Michael Garcia, but not any anything like last year. Um they really haven't done a whole lot, you know. Um their offense is not isn't just not getting it done. Their pitching is very inconsistent. Um, and then the twins are the twins. Um so uh I I would not be surprised if we see the Guardians run away with it, and then the White Sox hanging there for uh you know wild card or at least a second place finish, and then Detroit coming in right behind Chicago. So uh, but that like I said, that is only because the American League is just not very good, you know. So um, last question is if they are out of it, do y'all think we see Scuble traded during the season?

SPEAKER_03 18:51

It's it's it's hard to say, it's gonna depend on his health because they're gonna want a lot. And he's gonna have to be able to prove that he's healthy.

SPEAKER_00 19:00

Yeah. So essentially you get him for what it what was the payout on him? 32 million? Is that what they ended up paying out?

SPEAKER_03 19:08

I think that's what they're paying something like that.

SPEAKER_00 19:12

So he's getting paid 32 million. Would do you pay if you're hell, I don't even know. That's a big number. Uh if you're the Padres and you're up on the Dodgers' heels and you're making a playoff push and you got money in the bank, do you say I'll take Scoobo for the last two months of the season and try to finish this thing out for us? Take a chance on a you know, back-to-back Cy Young winner, even though his you know he's got the elbow issue or whatever. Do you do you pay 32 million? Well, I guess it wouldn't even be 32 million, it'd be about half that, right?

SPEAKER_03 19:54

Yeah, but I it depends on what they're gonna ask. I mean, you know, if it's if it's prospects, if I uh I'm the Padres, I would do it, but they're gonna they're probably gonna want prospects and at least one, if not two major league ready, major league, major league ready guys. Yeah, would you trade Jackson Merrill? I wouldn't. No, no, for two months of Terek Scoobel and prospects.

SPEAKER_00 20:22

I I wouldn't, you know, no, no, um, unless Michael King knows you're gonna make a push for him in the offseason.

SPEAKER_01 20:32

That's it. That's the that's the bingo card right there, right? I think because like Pop said, they're gonna ask for a big haul for him, and no one's gonna want to give away a big haul for a rent a player. Now you rent a player and you win the World Series and he wins two of those games. Okay, we're talking about something different, but yeah, it's gonna have to be a big market team that can afford to pay him because it's gonna be one of those kind of like you see in these, you know, other sports NBA or or um uh NFL where you know it says it's a sign and trade, but where basically they already have a an extension in place uh for him, the the team that the team that's gonna sign him, right? That they already have that extension in place because they know what they're giving up in turn.

SPEAKER_03 21:15

So yeah. Yeah, I mean, I I I think a team to to look out for that might get in the middle of this is uh is Atlanta, because they've had some pitching injuries to get Scooba in. Yeah, they got some pretty good young talent. Um of course injury problems has been has has riddled their pitching staff, which is why they would be looking for him, you know, another in injury riddled arm. But uh that would be something to definitely get, you know. Obviously, they're they're top of the heap in the national league right now. That would definitely get them over the over over the hump into the playoffs because he's he's been he's been dynamite postseason, everything. He's he's oh yeah. He's healthy, he's a big deal.

SPEAKER_00 22:01

Could you imagine going up against the Braves and you got sail and scooble in games one and two? Yeah, just don't show up.

SPEAKER_03 22:11

It's it's it's scooble and sail, and who the hell cares for three, right? Then you go right back to the other three can.

SPEAKER_01 22:18

Right. Hey, that's not forget about Striger. Right, yeah. I just looked up to the right and saw the Rangers box score for the run hit error. Um, columns is 002 very good. Do y'all know? Not usually.

SPEAKER_02 22:34

No, no, no, okay.

SPEAKER_01 22:36

That would be bad in a high school game, right? So just making sure.

SPEAKER_00 22:42

All right, let's move on from the Detroiters and our terrible, sad story of uh Texas Rangers ball club. Uh, let's talk a little New York Yankee, New York Yankees. Garrett Cole made his first start since the 2024 World Series. Do y'all remember that start and how that game ended? Um so he went six shutout innings. Um pretty good in his first start back. And um Rodon is back. You do have Freed a little bit banged up right now. Um, but you've got right now in your rotation, you've got Schlitler, Cole, Rodon. Freed comes back. Um gosh, that's uh that's a pretty nasty one through four. I mean, that's you you may be talking better than the Dodgers rotation if you got those four one through. I mean, that's that is an unhittable one through four combination going into a you know, going into a uh five-game or seven-game series, that's pretty scary looking down the barrel of that pitching staff. Um for y'all, does Garrett Cole make enough difference in this rotation to build the Yankees up and and get them over the Tampa Bay Rays hump? Or is is he that much of a difference maker? I know it's only every five days, but does he uh does he get him over that hump and maybe get him all the way to the World Series again?

SPEAKER_03 24:17

Uh it wouldn't he it wouldn't surprise me if he got into the World Series again. Uh you know, I don't know that they'll chase Tampa Bay down just because that whole league is so bad. Um, but I mean this is we talked about it the entire offseason. This is what the Yankees were waiting for, right? They didn't do anything with their pitching and they uh just kind of ran the whole thing back back, and they were waiting for Cole and Rodon to get to get back. They're there, and um it's it's paying off. So expect to see them make a deep playoff run at the end of the year as long as everybody else stays, continues to stay healthy.

SPEAKER_00 24:55

I mean, is is there truthfully, yes, the Tampa Bay Rays are in first right now, and their pitching is legit. They're they do play very good uh sound baseball, they do play small ball, they can generate runs if they need to without going up there and just relying on a junior commonero three-run homer. Um but is there a team if you're going into the into the playoffs, is there a team in the American League that you feel confident about going up against the Yankees? Like do the do the Rays, I know they're in first place, but do the Rays, if you're the Yankees, do the Rays scare you in a three or five-game series or a seven-game series?

SPEAKER_03 25:45

Probably not, but that's just because nobody's heard of most of their players. Um but uh you know, I I it will be interesting uh because you know, I think uh, like I said, I think this is what the Yankees plan for, and it's coming true, and uh we'll see how it all plays out. I I you know lots of talk about uh you know Toronto's the same record this year as they are last year, but you know, they're that mojo is not the same. Yeah. I don't see them, I don't see them um repeating uh their their run. You know, I think it's uh it's gonna be a three three-team race between Tampa Bay, the Yankees, and uh and the Guardians. And uh yeah, it's it's pick'em right now between the three of them.

SPEAKER_00 26:33

So the one thing the Guardians do well is so they're essentially they're the opposite of the Yankees. The Yankees just they will hit and hit and hit. The lineup doesn't stop, they just they wear your pitchers down. Um, they also have a very good pitching staff. They're not great in run prevention department, like they don't have a terribly solid defense or anything like that. Um, their bullpen is probably the weakest part of their their um roster, but the guardians run prevention is their thing. I mean, they have a wonderful pitching staff, a wonderful bullpen, they play excellent defense, and they just are really good at winning the two to one, one to nothing ball games. Um so is their ability to prevent teams from scoring runs, does that make them the biggest challenger for the Yankees?

SPEAKER_03 27:33

Or I don't think I don't think they score enough.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

Yeah, yeah, you might be good at preventing you know runs, but you can't prevent a run when it goes over the fence, like what the Bronx bombers can do. And no, I don't think anybody scares New York right now. I think New York's gonna win the division still. I mean, Tampa Bay is doing great. They're sighting in a bottle, not saying they're not gonna sustain it and not make the playoffs, but no, I mean, looking up and down, I don't think there's one team right now for sure that I would pick in, like you said, a three, five, or seven game series over New York. I think they're cream of the crop in the American League. I really think it's close.

SPEAKER_00 28:11

Yeah, the A's. I'm sorry we didn't bring them up.

SPEAKER_01 28:14

Any again, I think there's a reason why when I didn't mention them as well. So no, no one does. I mean, Tam Bay is good and they could jump up and surprise everybody. But right now, I'm just given the track record, especially from the past couple seasons, you know, with the Yankees making it to divisional round last year, obviously going to the World Series the year before. They've they've kind of even that when they don't win that division, they've kind of they've kind of owned it. Um, they've been the most consistent the past couple seasons, as far as not having a Boston year, like what Boston's doing right now, or past two like Baltimore has done. So I think right now, especially with Garrett Cole coming back, and what a a shot to the arm for that team when this guy just hasn't pitched for an entire season, and all he does is come out, like you said, and throw six shutty. I mean, that's that's got to be pretty exciting going, gosh, this guy, yeah, you know, right now, I mean, technically, I guess maybe number one, these are number three. He just came out and did that. So yeah, I think that I think it's a huge jolt of energy and can make a big difference, and I think it will for them.

SPEAKER_00 29:21

Right. Well, and you did it against the the guys you're chasing, right? Came out and threw six shutty. They ended up losing the game still because their bullpen is, like I said, the worst part of their roster. Um and and Tampa Bay popped off a freaking four-run eighth inning. But um, yeah, I mean, New York, I think, truly is the the scariest team in the American League. Um all around, you know. If you I saw Volpe starting at shortstop the other day. I don't is copier on the IL. I don't know. I didn't even look it up. Oh, okay. All right. So I guess they kind of have to. But I saw Volpe in there and I was like, he just he kind of looks lost out there at shortstop.

SPEAKER_01 30:15

I don't know what is it's you know how it is, you know, it's a you can it's not as common with these big leaguers, but you can definitely have a slump in the field just like you can have it, you know, at the plate. And I guarantee you every pitch that's thrown when he's at short, he's like, please don't hit this ball to me because yeah, I don't care how hard or how soft they hit it, I'm gonna screw it up.

SPEAKER_00 30:35

Do y'all remember in the late 90s, or maybe even it might have been early 2000s, uh second baseman Chuck Nobla? Yeah, yeah, and how he got to the point where he just could not throw a ball from second base to first base. Y'all remember that? Ended his career. Yeah, right, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:54

Yeah, pretty crazy stuff. And you remember Steve Sachs for the Dodgers had the same problem back in the 80s, and then uh who was the the catcher for the Mets? Was it Tedleton? Who could not throw the ball back to the pitcher? No, that wasn't Tedon. There's Mackie Sasser, maybe, who could not throw the ball back to the pitcher. He had he would, I mean, there were times he would have to go to he'd have to throw the ball to third base, and the third baseman would throw it to the pitcher.

SPEAKER_01 31:21

That's crazy. Is that probably who they based that major league two catcher off of, wasn't it? That couldn't go to the bigger one. Probably so. Had to have been. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:30

Yeah. All right, let's talk a little National League. All right, here we go. Colorado at Arizona. The Snakes host the Rocks for a four-game set. Eduardo Rodriguez and Zach Agnos both threw gems in game one, but Corbin Carroll walked it off with an RBI single. Uh, the Rocks took game two, but the Snakes took the next two, and three out of the four, three out of the four in the series. Um, another tough series for the North side um as they got swept, the Cubbies and the Houston Astros. And the Cubbies get swept by a not very good Astros team. Um hit or night. All right, yeah. I was about to say now we now they're going against our Rangers, so the Houston team is gonna look pretty good coming up in our next episode. But um the Cubbies uh real struggle bus lately. Uh, I think they ended up losing. They got up to eight in a row. Um, so pretty, pretty tough couple of weeks for the Cubbies. Um, but we'll get into more about the NL Central here in a little bit. Um the Guardians at the Phillies. I think we're gonna call this the Jim Tomey bowl. Uh Gavin Williams threw eight shutty with no walks and 11 strikeouts in game one. Christopher Sanchez also threw eight scoreless, um, and it took a pinch hit homer by Kyle Manzardo off of Joe, Johan Duran, no less, um, to end up getting the one-to-nothing victory in that one. Wheeler kept it going in game two as he tossed to Jim. And then Parker Mesick and the Cleveland bullpen ended up holding the Phills to just one run in the rubber game. Travis Bazzana homered in that one. Hoskins and Kwan both had RBI, and the Guardians take two out of the three from the fighting Phils. The Giants bats came alive as they hosted the White Sox. Uh Harrison Bader hit two Grand Slams last week, and then Devers hit one on Sunday's game. So three grand slams in a week for those Giants. Um, that's pretty much all of their offense for the entire season. But they end up taking two out of three from the from the Chai Sox. Um, St. Louis and Cincinnati. One game was postponed. So this one ended up turning into a two-game series, and they split that one. Um, so pretty much kissing your sister as you're going up against uh a central rival there. Um the Nats go to Atlanta and take two out of three from the Braves, handing them just their second series loss of the season. Um I'm not gonna I'm not gonna spoil the standings for Pops, but um, I think y'all are gonna be surprised um in the NL East. The Dodgers and the Brewers square off in a rematch from last year's NLCS, and this series went about as well for uh Milwaukee as the NLCS did. Uh they ended up taking game one, but the next two were all LA, and the Dodgers take two out of three. The A's visit the Padres, and San Diego did what they've somehow been doing all year long, and that's winning games. Um the Padres take two out of three, but Nicholas Kurtz did tie Jimmy Fox for the longest consecutive on-base streak. Um that's as far as consecutive games in Ace history at 47 games. So tonight, um I don't know if they've started playing yet or not because they're over on the West Coast, but um, tonight he could tie McGuire's franchise record of 48. And then maybe tomorrow we see a broken record. We'll see how it goes. Um, and we'll finish it off on a high note as the Mets ended up getting swept, getting getting swept by the Marelins. Well done. Well done, New York. They are just really on a roll so far this year. Do you have some NL standings for us?

SPEAKER_03 35:17

All right. Uh, yeah, so the the Braves continue to set at the top the East uh with an eight and a half game lead over the Washington Nationals. As the Nationals use that series win to Leak Prague. The the Phillies uh the first time that the Braves have lost a series to a National League team all year. So pretty pretty pretty crazy. Uh the Phillies have kind of leveled off a little bit uh after getting back to back to 500 and then they sit at 500. Um but they're they've kind of got it rolling. Uh the Nationals are interesting because they've scored more runs than anybody in baseball. Yeah. They've also allowed more runs than any any team in baseball, and they have a negative run differential. So that's uh the opposite of the Rangers, who don't allow many tonight, uh excluded, but uh they score zero. So uh you cannot win if you don't score. So uh then in the uh central, uh the story here is is obviously the the Cubs, but uh the the Brewers uh not really two and a half game lead over the Cardinals. They're doing what the Brewers do. Uh you know, I think the the Cardinals are this is probably the second biggest surprise over the Cubs since this with this last uh 10-game run for the car for the Cubs, but the Cardinals just keep keep winning. Uh you know, they don't they're calling up some kids from the farm, seeing if they can enhance this pitching staff a little bit, and uh we'll see how it goes. Um if all Ollie Marmal smoked, uh their bullpen would be a three-packer. Uh he would be smoking three packs, and every inning they go out there and throw, it's pretty, pretty wild. Um but you know, the uh to the Cubs, they're losers of nine in a row now uh after losing again tonight. Um so just they can't they can't hit.

SPEAKER_00 37:15

Um they can't keep a pitcher off the I. L.

SPEAKER_03 37:21

And you know, yeah, the I. So um that'll be interesting. And then the Reds and the Pirates are two interesting teams. You know, the the Reds, you know, that we kind of talked about this in the offseason, they can't score any runs. Negative 29 run differential. Um the uh and then the pirates, just the opposite of what um they had last year, you know, they're they're plus 23 in the run run differential, but they you know Skeens just can't he's not been the skins evolved, and you know, he's and they still can't get him any run run support. So um he's giving up more runs, but it's doesn't really matter. So that one's that's an interesting deal. They're they're sitting in last place, but they're still two games over 500. And uh then we get to the West and the two hottest teams in baseball, the Dodgers and the Diamondbacks. The Dodgers win four out of six, won two series against uh the other two best teams in in the National League, the Padres and uh the Brewers, uh, outside of the Braves. Um and then the Diamondbacks, uh they're they won three in a row. They're uh within a game, a couple of games of the Padres. They're in third place. Um but big big gap between the Diamondbacks and the Giants. But uh three pretty solid, salty teams over there in the AL West that look like the uh you know, we've talked about the Diamondbacks all year about having some good good offense, but uh they don't have the the bullpen, but whatever they've got, it's it's holding up for now.

SPEAKER_00 38:53

Yeah, Seawald has the same effect on his manager as the St. Louis bullpen. Um yeah, so uh yeah, good stuff there, Pops. Thank you for that. Um, so I want to do a little bit of a deep dive into the NL Central. I think when it comes to the NL East, I mean, I don't think anybody's concerned about the Nationals. Um yes, they score a lot of runs. Not only do they score, well, they score more runs than anybody. Um, also CJ Abrams has knocked in more runs than anybody uh in Major League Baseball, but their defense is absolutely horrible. Um, and their pitching is is almost as bad. So uh, you know, I don't think anybody's worried about the Nationals. I think a lot of people think that the Philz will at least figure out how to be in second place in this division. Um the the NL West, I think, is obviously the Dodgers to lose. The Padres, I talked a lot of trash about them. Well, I don't know if I talked trash. I just didn't think they they had that they had done a whole lot in the offseason. Um, so I didn't pick them to be very good. Um the Giants are making me look like an idiot so far this season.

SPEAKER_01 40:11

So um you know having the opposite effect as they're in first place, and I said they wouldn't make the playoffs. So there you go.

unknown 40:18

Right.

SPEAKER_00 40:19

Um but the NL Central is very, very interesting. I think we all thought that the brew crew and the Cubs would be up there towards the top. Um we all did talk trash about the Cardinals. Oh, hell yeah. Rightfully tell us horrible. And Slay, this brings me back to your point that you made about the Rangers about bring some young guys up, see what they can do. Uh that's what the Cardinals are doing, and they're successful. They're bringing up now. Maybe the Cardinals have a better farm system than we do, but um, you know, the Cardinals are just kind of have that mentality of let's really see what we got with this young crew. Because I'm sorry, but our our veterans on the Rangers have not been playing very well.

SPEAKER_02 41:07

No, they've been horrible.

SPEAKER_00 41:08

So why not give the young guys who you know are fighting for a check or or fighting for a spot in a lineup? Let them guys go out there and see what they can do.

SPEAKER_03 41:17

Um, I think that just tells you how bad the Rangers farm system is. Yeah, because I I think I I think if they had a if they had anybody down there that they thought could do anything at the Major League level, they wouldn't be here.

SPEAKER_01 41:28

Yeah, wouldn't be Hellman and Fosky and Ozuna, probably, right?

SPEAKER_00 41:31

Yep, yeah, right. Um, so you've got the Cubs struggling big time, but remember they've already had two 10-game win streaks this season. Uh, and they play very, very well at home. The Cardinals, like we said, does not look like they're backing down. I do I trust their offense a little bit. I'm still really shaky about their pitching. Um, Milwaukee has climbed to the top, like like we talked about a minute ago. Cincinnati and Pittsburgh, both above 500 and only a handful of games out of first place in the division. Um, I think one thing that will help Cincinnati a lot is Hunter Green coming back, as long as he can stay healthy when he comes back. Um, and then Pittsburgh. I mean, guys, we talked about this in the offseason a little bit. If if they have a middle of the road offense, they are a contending team. Uh, they have been a top 10 offense in the in the in the league. Um, but their pitching hasn't quite been there like it was. Now, we're saying Paul Skeens is having an off-year. He's got an ERA of three, right? I mean, it's not like he's getting just railroad and he's got an ERA like Jack Flaherty, you know, that's that's almost six, you know. He's he's got an ERA of three, but um, you're just you're not used to seeing the four run, him giving up four runs and five innings, you know, like he did against the Blue Jays. So um is it gonna be back and forth like this all season? Do y'all think there somebody's gonna run away with it? If you do, why do you think they're gonna run away with it? Do you think one team's gonna fall off? What what do y'all think is gonna happen here in the central?

SPEAKER_03 43:17

Uh I I think I think the two two best teams are the Brewers and the Cubs, just like we talked about in the in the in the preseason. The the Cubs have every have a great chance to win the division if they get any kind of pitching healthy for an extended period of time. Um yeah, I mean it it's interesting. It'll be interesting to see how how much the Cardinals can stay in there. And uh it's still pretty evenly matched. You know, I think the Brewers, they have they're they're the only team that are above 500 both home and and on the road. The Cardinals are 500 at home, they but they're well above 500 on the road. Uh the Cubs are well above 500 at home, but they're Are below 500 on the road. Then the Reds and the Pirates are both just right at just a little bit above 500 both home on home and road. You know, and they're all kind of and the you know who's killing the Reds is the Central. They're two and ten against the rest of the Central. And uh the Cubs are 11 and 5, and everybody else is just kind of holding their own. And the pirates have struggled against the Central Division, too. So it's it's but it's uh yeah, I think it's gonna be it's gonna be fun all year, and this could be funny, be the proverbial four four playoff teams from one division that Justin has been hoping for.

SPEAKER_01 44:41

Hey, well, you know that I was second questioning myself if it could happen. I think you all agree, and then I was like, no, no, no, it can definitely happen. Uh I'm with Pops. Josh, I think you'll agree. I mean, St. Louis has got to fall off. Now, uh, good for them if they don't, because what they're doing right now is is for what they did in the offseason and who is playing for them. And as y'all said, their bullpen causing uh, you know, the coaches to smoke three packs of unfiltered Marlboro's uh Marlboro Reds every single game. But the Milwaukee, dude, they're just uh, you know, this comes from a guy who just said they wouldn't make playoffs, but they're a well-rounded team. Jeez, you know, they're not a team that just completely matches. We talked about that last year. They put the stinking ball in play and they're pitching, dude. I mean, they've been unbelievable. Leading, you know, leading the way is the Miz, right? But then uh Ashby, he's eight and oh for them with 2.18 ERA out of the bullpen.

SPEAKER_00 45:40

He's eight and oh, and he's a freaking reliever.

SPEAKER_03 45:43

I mean, so they've got and Mizer Mizerowski tonight set a record for most pitches in a single start over 100 miles an hour.

SPEAKER_01 45:52

They probably have a record that he broke of his own problems, and it probably was his own record. But you're looking at, you know, uh the Miz and Harrison there with ERAs of 1.83 and 1.77. That's your top two starters. Then you got Patrick who's at uh 2.63. So, you know, three of their starting pitchers with freaking just tremendous ERAs, and you know, he didn't even talk about it with Ashby obviously being 8-0 at 2.18. I mean, they're just doing it right. I mean, yes, the Cubs have had two 10-game winning streaks, but how do you avoid falling back like this as you can't have a nine-game losing streak? Now, easier said than done. Josh, like you said, and TJ, as you uh well know, you know, their starting pitching has just been, you know, kicked between the legs as far as that goes. But, you know, and maybe that's having a different effect on the offense too. I don't know. But but teams go through these lulls. Now you just hope that they can get back on track and get maybe a seven or eight game winner and try not to have another one of these extended losing streaks. But I think it's gonna be a lot of back and forth between Milwaukee and and Chicago. But it would be pretty cool if you know, really any of those other teams, especially St. Louis given their offseason, can step up and make it interesting.

SPEAKER_00 47:04

Yeah. So the thing that blows my mind a little bit about the Cubs, number one, it's really hard to lose or win more than in baseball, more than three or four games in a row. You know what I mean? Because the baseball is just a weird sport, right? To lose nine in a row or to win ten in a row like they've done twice is very, very strange, especially for such a good team like the Cubs. I think part of what's going on is you have an entire rotation because of course Edward Cabrera, TJ, I think sent out the text this morning, right? Um, Edward Cabrera um burst his uh placenta and he's on the 15-day I. So they've got an entire rotation on the on the IL, and they're still holding teams to one, two, three runs. They just they're not hitting anything. And you've got, I mean, we talked last year a lot about them having the best outfield with Hap and PCA and Seya and Tucker. Um, and then the infield with I mean, Horner, Dansby, Bregman, Bush. I mean, these guys, they could have, if these guys had normal years, it's not crazy to think that you could have seven of those guys starting the all-star game. Um, so the hitters got a hit, man. And I think it's putting too much pressure on these pitchers, especially because a lot of their pitchers are guys that don't have a ton of experience. Um, and uh, you know, they're their experienced guys are all on the shelf, you know. So there's just there's a lot going on. Showda's having to carry the squad, you know, and if he's holding somebody to two runs, you gotta think you can you can score more than two, and they just haven't been able to get it done. So um, but having said that, I think Chicago is very well equipped to not just get out of this slump, but once they get some some pitchers back on their feet, I think they could still come up and climb the mountain and and end up taking the division from Milwaukee. So um, Pops, you said earlier, four teams out of the same division. I think it's pretty reasonable to expect three out of the division. I think we're probably gonna see the Dodgers and Padres, and then over in the East, I think it's only gonna be Atlanta that comes out of that one. I do think we'll see three teams coming out of the central. So cubs and Brewers, I think, are definitely in. Who do y'all think is the third team?

SPEAKER_01 49:42

Third team in the division? Third team in the division to go to the playoffs. Oof. So if I was looking at that, I mean I would say Cincinnati. Okay. You know, just based on obviously them getting there last year. And the Terry Francona effect, too, right? Yep, and then uh, what's his name, Josh? The pitcher they're supposed to be getting back again. Yeah, Hunter Green. I think if Green can come back and be healthy and give him a shot in the army, their offense isn't horrible, you know. Um I mean they like fourth and the majors in home runs. Maybe it's possible. They've actually been given up quite a few runs, way more runs than anybody in that division, or even I think uh shoot, they've given up the most runs in the entire national league. So uh yeah, if they can't.

SPEAKER_00 50:30

Well, I think the I think the Nats are worse, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:33

Oh, you're right. They have 304. They're way worse than coming in at second in Cincinnati at 265. So very good there. But I mean, yeah, I think if they can their hitting is, you know, can stay mildly consistent and their pitching kind of gets back on track. I think I think they've got the best shot, you know, behind those two teams that you said. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 50:54

What do you think pops?

SPEAKER_03 51:00

Right, yeah. I I I I think Frank, if that's if it's gonna be one of them, it's gonna be Frank owner's gonna lead those guys to the to the promised land. I don't I don't I'm a big Cardinal fan, but I've never really thought much of Marmal as a manager, and I couldn't even tell you who the pirates manager is. Um yeah, see, well whatever. My point as well might as well be Justin Slate.

SPEAKER_02 51:31

Oh thank you.

SPEAKER_03 51:34

Uh but you know, I uh I I I think uh Frank Frank Frank Ona people like playing for him, and he knows he knows the you know, look what he did did last year. He got them into the into the playoffs, and um, but nobody was giving them much of any chance for anything. So um I I think he'll make the difference and it'll be the red.

SPEAKER_00 51:55

Okay, all right. I think that the pirates have just enough offense, and I think their pitching has not been as stellar as it was last year. So I think they have some room to grow there. Um, I think behind the Cubys and the Brewers, I think we're gonna see the Pirates get in there. I think they're gonna squeeze one out. Skeens is gonna get back on track. Um, and then the rest of their pitchers, Bubba Chandler, Mitch Keller, Braxton Ashcraft. I mean, those guys are freaking studs. Um, I do I would like to see him go get a high-leverage arm at some point this season um to help out that bullpen, but um, they hit and hit kind of what Slade was talking about with uh the Brewers and the and the Rays, where they just choke up, slap the ball all over the field. You watch the Pirates hit, and they are real good about hitting that hole in between first and second base, those right-handed batters. They are all over it, they don't hit it very hard, but they got no problem. Yeah, yep, that's it. Um, so I'm liking the pirates for the third team out of that division. Um and there, there it is. So, Pops, do you have the worst of the week for us?

SPEAKER_03 53:07

Yes, so this was like which cub could you pick, right? Oh no. So we had uh Michael Conforto go 0 for 12 with six K's. Um well that was his whole season last year with the Dodgers. Yes, this was just his week here, but I but I I just I had to go with Hap. He went one for so this is the last seven days, right? So uh we were on the text thread, we were looking at him on Saturday, and uh he was two for 24 or something like that. Uh, and then he was actually so bad that they gave him the weekend off. So he wound up with only 15 at bats for the for the week. Uh so he went uh one for 15, 067, uh nine Ks. Uh so you know you you don't get out of being the worst player of the week just be because you got bench. Maybe that just enhances your your uh your uh uh the stats. But yeah, so I had to go with Ian Hap in the National League, and then uh Kazuma Okamato uh in the American League. Uh two for 24, 083, 14 K's in one walk. Um uh two of his hits, he scored twice, two of his hits were were a double. You know, the good news is if he if he gets on base, he scores. Uh the bad news is he almost never gets on base. So uh at least last week. So so uh tough tough go there for this guy. Um and the for the pitching, uh, I went with Noah Schultz of the Chicago White Sox. Two two starts. Uh only got 9.1 innings, um, 7K's, 8.68 ERA. Uh nine unruns, 11 hits, uh, just really kind of got got got lit up both of his starts. And uh, you know, then I did and not by great teams, Pops. One of those and then I'm sitting there, and and again, so I'm trying to figure out all right, do I do I kick another cub in the nuts or do I go a different direction? So uh so last week Shoda had two two two starts, 10.1 innings, 13.06 ERA, 1.94 whip, 15 runs, five home runs. So but he was outdone by Robbie Ray of your San Francisco Giants. Two starts, eight point one innings pitch, four K's, 14.04 ERA, uh 2.64 whip, 13 runs, 13 hits, nine walks, three home runs. So um, and he only got he didn't lose one of those games, so he got a no decision.

SPEAKER_00 56:31

Uh thanks to a Roberts Grand Slam.

SPEAKER_03 56:35

Yes, uh Showday got the loss in both, but uh I couldn't let the Cubs take a clean sweep. So uh give me Robbie Ray and uh um no all for the raspberries of the week. All right.

SPEAKER_00 56:49

Nice. All right. Did we get who you said Noah Schultz and Robbie Ray? Slade dude. Players and pitchers of the week.

SPEAKER_01 57:02

Player of the week in the National League boys. It wasn't even close. It was Catel Marte. Now let's keep in mind who he played all last week, okay? It was Colorado in two series and San Francisco in one series, but he did get 15 hits and 28 at bats, scored 11 runs, three homers, 12 RBIs, walked three times. Again, that one no-brainer. Uh, I don't think the MLB has released their players of the week yet. I cannot see how you can't give it to that guy for the NL with stats like that. That's unbelievable. He had a great week and helped that team make up some ground and and uh get into third place, certain, you know, uh get a little breathing room over 500, I guess, there uh in the in the NL West. So I was thinking about giving it an AL to Wilson Contreras for Boston, but it's just hard to give it to anybody from Boston. So I'm gonna go ahead and give it to Nick Kurtz here. Big Amish. The guy went 11 for 26, six runs scored, eight RBIs. Amazingly, those eight RBIs without hitting any homers did have a stolen base, but also mixed in seven walks, and that's a first place team. So uh good week there. And like you said, Josh, he is tied there what second, I guess, all time for most consecutive on-base streak for their team. I looked, I hadn't looked yet, but I know they just started when you said earlier, and he was 0 for 1. So, but I haven't looked since. So let's see if he keeps going. Pictures of the week, boys. I'm gonna have to give it to in the National League, Max Meyer out of Miami. So all this guy's done is he went and he pitched against Atlanta, and he six innings, no earned runs, six K's, and then against the Mets, just shoved it up their butts, seven innings pitched, zero earned runs, eight K's. Gentlemen, the guy is five and oh on the year. He's had a couple not good but not bad games uh during the season, but I guess his team scores just enough runs to where he doesn't get that loss. So Max Meyer in the National League is going to be the pitcher of the week. And then because of what you said, Josh, earlier, you mentioned it. Uh I only pitched one game last week, but let's go ahead with uh Gavin Williams from Cleveland because it was at Philadelphia, eight innings pitch, 11Ks, no walks. Some guys get that between two starts in a week. So let's go ahead and give the AL pitcher of the week to those first place Cleveland Indian Guardians.

SPEAKER_00 59:30

Yeah, one thing I want to say about Catel Marte. So you know how there's guys and it's usually power hitters, right? Uh, one guy that comes to mind that used to always, for some reason, I feel like I saw um Toronto beat up on the Rangers so much as a kid. Um, it seems like every time I went to a game, it was the Jays and the Rangers, and the Jays like murdering us. But Carlos Delgado was the ball just sounded different off that dude's bat. You know what I mean? Um, and it's usually big guy. Jim Tomey is another guy, you know what I mean? When when they hit the ball, Josh Hamilton, you know, one of our guys, they it just the ball just sounds different. With Catel Marte watching the highlights when that guy is on a roll like he is now, the ball's coming off his bat. He's not he's not hitting for like a ton of power, right? Like he's not dropping a bunch of home runs, but when that guy hits the ball, it is a freaking piss rod. I mean, he he hit one down the right field line when they were playing um Colorado. It was like 117 off the bat. And I mean, a laser beam. So he does a lot of that when he's when he's really, really hot. He is just hitting balls so hard and all over the field, not necessarily getting them up in the air and hitting with a lot of a lot of you know home run power, but doubles in the gaps, doubles down the line, and just just smoking balls all over the field. So yeah, um, good pick there, Slade. All right. Um, that's all I got for tonight, fellas. Did y'all have anything y'all wanted to add? Did we miss anything?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:13

So did you have any trivia? I didn't. Do you? So uh sort of. So you you you got to talking about um leadoff home runs. So I went down went down a um not much of a rabbit hole, but so like Slate's trying to throw a computer everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:43

I guess so. The bench I'm sitting on has a wobbly leg and it completely went out, so that was pretty awesome.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:51

Uh yeah, I I would blame it on that too.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:53

Did Josh see the fear in my eyes when I did it? Yeah. And the fear is only because you're gonna have to hear about it from your wife tomorrow. Oh no, she doesn't think, but it's okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:03

Yeah, so like like you said, Rich Ricky Henderson was uh all-time leader at 81 and Springer second, nobody between them, right? And then and then the list of the next 13 guys or the top 13 is is pretty interesting. Uh, because five of them are still active.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:23

Oh wow I believe that because nowadays everybody's put your best hitter one and two, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:02:32

Yeah, so but but some of the names on here are are interesting. So and you want to start throwing out some guesses? We'll go to the top top 13 all-time leadoff home runs. Brady's five of them being probably there. Brady Anderson, what who'd you say, Josh?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:48

Schwarz.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:49

Yep. So Brady Anderson is 10 with 44, and Schwarber is eight with 46.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:57

Brady Anderson, 44 leadoff home runs.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:00

You remember that one chairwood year he had? He probably hit 20 that one year.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:04

Yeah, you're probably so it's so it's interesting too. So they have have number of games. Okay, and I'm assuming it's in the leadoff position only, right? Because um Springer's saying he's got his 65 and 1081, only only 1081 games. So he's done almost as many as Henderson in a third of the games. Oh wow. Ricky almost always let off.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:26

Of course.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:27

Uh but Schwarber has hit his 46 in 517 games. So he so about 10% of the games he let off, right? Or was that one percent? About uh Mike Trout. Uh let me see. Uh no.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:46

Oh, definitely Shohei's gotta be up there. Oh, duh. He's gotta be behind spring.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:53

Nope. So the next the next two are not active. The next two are not active. Okay, Ian Kinsler. So that's a yes. So he's on the list, and that one surprised me. So he's on the list, but he's number six with 48.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:14

Wow, yeah. That a boy. Kins dog, that a boy. Yeah, he was I was surprised. We all three were at a game once where I think Alicia was with us because we were sitting right field, and y'all had real good seats behind uh Dug out, and it was kind of rainy that night, and y'all were like, dude, there's no one behind. It's just come down there, and Kinsler hit one and it hit a bullpen chair and bounced back, and they tried to throw it in and play it. And we were like, no, they went to replay it immediately, you know, called it a home run. But we all got to see one together. So how about that? Yeah, um please don't tell me Jock Peterson's on there.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:52

Uh no.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:53

Okay, good.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:54

Uh Jeter? Did he lead off enough or was he batting two-hole? He did he didn't hit enough home runs. Um Alfonso Soriano. He's number three with 54. Very good. So we hit we were missing four, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:05:19

Uh you got four, you got six, you got eight, and you got uh ten. So there's another six or seven. Four is a hall of famer.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:31

Four is a hall of famer.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:35

Second baseman also. Boggs ever bat leadoff? No, he didn't hit uh Wade Boggs? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but he never hit enough enough home runs. He batted leadoff a lot.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:49

3000th hit was a home run. Did Sandberg bat leadoff?

SPEAKER_03 1:05:54

Uh not usually, no. Second base. Lead off. I might have played here in Texas somewhere. Hall of Fame, second baseman.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:13

Hall of Fame second baseman he well, he wouldn't have gone in as a ranger.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:17

No, here in Texas, not as a ranger, but in Texas. Oh, Altuve. No, Altuve is on the list at number 11 with 42, but this is not Altuve. Bigio. It's got to be Vigio. Yep. Okay. Number five is active.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:36

Number five is active.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:38

Still batting laidoff? No. No. This one was a surprise for me, too. Not that he's not a great player and doesn't hit a lot of home runs, but I was just surprised that he hit laid off this much, I guess. Bryce Tarang? No. Well, he does. Might have been someone. Someone else named Bryce? Uh no. No. No.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:06

Turner? Craig Turner?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:10

No. No. This guy's a Dodger.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:16

Oh, Mookie Betts?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:18

Mookie.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:19

Oh. I didn't realize he had a leadoff that much either.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:24

Maybe the lost two games, huh? I I think so. I think so. 52 leadoff home runs and just under 1100 games. And then we had Kinsler at six, uh, seven. Uh former former Tiger does a lot of stuff on uh uh I want to say MOP MOB Network now. Um Tigers Outfielder in the 90s and 2000s played for the Yankees too.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:57

Leadoff outfielder center fielder Branderson?

SPEAKER_03 1:08:10

Yep. Oh, very good. Branderson 47. Then we got uh Schwarber at 46, and then the next guy is at 46 also, number nine, but uh they have Schwarber listed first because it took him three times the game to get to his 46. But uh this guy I wanna I will I believe he was a former MVP, one-time World Series uh champion. He was uh 2000 Phillies.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:41

2000 Phillies 2000 era.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:46

He was uh he he he does a lot of stuff on uh on the MOB network and and or make uh he's on the on a broadcast.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:56

Who Jimmy Rollins and Jack at the national stadium several years ago, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:05

And then we had Brady Anderson at 10 with 44, Altuve at 11 with 42, and uh 12. I don't even know enough about this guy to tell you anything about him, okay. Other than the fact that he played, I believe it was for the Colorado Rocky, and that's not anybody that you've ever heard of from uh it's not any of the big names. Charlie Blackman? That's him.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:35

Oh wow, yeah. He's the he's the Colorado Rockies go, dude. Him and Todd Helton. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:43

Well you said it was no one ever heard of, I knew it wasn't Helton. That's the first person I thought of.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:46

Yeah. Helton's the answer to every trivia question from the from the a lot of these.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:54

Yeah, and number number thir thir thirteen is is active. Okay, active.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:08

Let's see. A lot of leadoff home runs.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:12

Yes. This guy would not be a surprise. He's hit a lot of home runs. Okay. He might have stolen a base or two at the same time, and it is not Shohei. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:28

Oh, a cunha?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:31

Acunya Jr.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:33

Yes, he's got 30, 37. Ichiro has 37. Shin Su Chu has 36.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:42

Oh, Shensu Chu, he was a great leadoff hitter for us.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:45

Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:46

Loved watching that guy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:48

Um, Ray Durham of all people from the Cubs had 34. And then I went this deep for one reason and one reason only. Um, because he just passed away and he was answered round another entire trivia question cycle. Devin White, number 17, with 34.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:07

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:09

Didn't he he's the one that he's the just passed away, right? Oh, I didn't hear that. Or was that or is that somebody else? Who are we? Who am I thinking of?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:17

Garrett Anderson.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:18

Garrett Anderson, that's what I'm thinking of. Yeah, never mind. I was about to say his name. But Devin, but Devin White has 34. So, but but that was kind of there. I mean, I was surprised by Kinsler, I was surprised by Betts. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:34

But anyway, all right, cool. All right, well, Pops, you just mentioned a name that sent me down a rabbit hole. Because I feel like this guy was a really solid major leaguer, and I'm right. Ray Durham. Like, really good career.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:55

Yeah, I was just surprised at the number of home runs.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:57

Over 2,000 hits. Does that surprise you?

SPEAKER_03 1:12:02

A little bit. He played a long time though, didn't he? He was with the Cubs, he bounced around a little bit, maybe towards the end. But I was just surprised at the amount of home runs.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:10

14 years, I would say that's that's a good long career, but some of those Hall of Famers that put up the big numbers, you're talking about 18, 20, 22 years. So I remember him being really good with the White Sox, and then I thought he had some good years with the Giants. So yeah, I mean, a couple three, four, more seasons in Chicago.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:36

Yeah, I mean, I was I'm I always thought he was a solid, solid major league catcher. And I I guess I had the wrong Chicago team. I thought he was with the Cubs, but uh the 200 home runs were uh surprise for me, or almost 200.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:50

Yeah, over 400 doubles. Yeah, yeah. Really, really solid. Why'd you do that to the cops? Now I'm probably gonna go start looking at like freaking 1987 Chicago White Sox players now.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:10

Uh almost 300 still on bases, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:13

Yeah, solid career, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:16

For sure, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:17

Yeah, and white. Devin White, I remember, so he was on the Blue Jays team, team, at least one of them that won the the World Series in the early 90s, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:31

Uh, he was a three-time World Series winner. Who did he do it with?

SPEAKER_00 1:13:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:37

Um see, so it was it was both of those Toronto teams.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:43

Oh, okay. Then the Marlins was the other one with Pudge.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:46

And then the Marlins in '97, Pudge's MVP season.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:55

Good, good solid ball player. Yep. Old Devin White. I want to say he was uh an angel, too.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:05

That's where he started. He spent the first five or six years of his career.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:08

I remember him at. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:10

But you know what? I mean, my gosh, he's not, you know, again, very solid major league career, but he and Ray Durham are almost the same guy.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:23

Same player, yeah. Just a different position. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:27

Well, there's about a 14 difference in the war. But I think Devin White played played a lot, played longer.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:35

He played, yeah, three more years, it looks like.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:37

Additional three years. I think he was better defensively than Durham was.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:41

Not that Durham was any Durham wasn't any slouch, but well, he gets extra points playing center field versus second base, too.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:49

Well, well, that and the fact that he won one, two, three, four, five, six, seven gold gloves.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:55

That's not that good, really.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:57

Well, compared to Ray Durham's zero, that's your 13. That's the 13 gap in war, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:15:04

Yeah. My goodness, that is a lot of gold gloves. Yeah. All right. Well, that's all I got, fellas. That's good stuff. Good up. All right. Well, thank you everybody for tuning in for another episode of I'm gonna get it right, the MLB Clubhouse with the Jimmies. We're not talking Rangers anymore, so I got my head on straight. If you like what we're doing, support the show. Thank you all for listening. Uh, check us out on Facebook, Instagram, X. Um, give us a like, give us a subscription, let us know you like what we're doing, or let us know that you don't like what we're doing. And maybe we can change it up a little bit for you. Um, for the sleigh dude, Justin Slay and Wendell Pops Patterson. I'm Josh Patterson. Thank y'all, and we will talk to you again next week.