Episode 62: Are The White Sox For Real/The Miz Threw a 15 K Maddux

The White Sox have taken over the lead in the American League Central!

Jacob Misiorowski threw one of the greatest starts in recent history.

Slay Dude and Pops go through the best and worst performances of the week.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Baseball fans and baseball lovers, good day. Thank you for joining us for another episode of the MLB Clubhouse with the Jimmies. I am here with the Slay Dude, Justin Slay and Wendell Patterson on Josh Patterson. We're going to talk a little white socks in the AL Central. I'm not going to give it away any standings, but they have been a very surprising team so far this year. And we are going to talk about the Ms. Jacob Mizerowski and the accomplishment that he had over the last week on Friday night, I believe, is when it happened. So we're going to get into it. Let's talk a little American League Slay dude.

SPEAKER_04 0:47

Let's start out in the AL Beast Pops. You were right, maybe a couple days behind your prediction, but the New York Yankees are in first place down in the East. I think we all kind of saw it coming. But only a game ahead. Two wins ahead, same amount of losses as Tampa Bay and the rest of the division as the rest of the division. So I don't even think we need to talk about them right now because they've kind of been doing what they're doing. Josh, don't give it away, but you gave it away, but we don't haven't given it away yet because the White Sox are tied with the not Cleveland Indians. And we will see if that's lightning in a bottle, if this is for real. Quick prediction for me we are now 70 games into the season. I'm going to say it's for real. And they got a real chance in that division because let's face it, kind of like the AL West, everybody else sucks.

SPEAKER_03 1:39

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:40

So, but you do have the White Sox on a nice heater. Uh, so they are the only team in their division at plus 12 with a positive run differential. So even the Guardians now are three under as far as that. So um Minnesota's doing Minnesota, but like Pop said earlier before we hopped on, they are beating our Rangers 4-2 tonight. Uh mostly thankful to a 3-1 home run after McKenzie Gore decided to walk a couple people in the first, but to a Mr. Josh Bell, Jesuits own. I think that he graduated the year Jared did, so maybe at 2012, 2011 uh baby, been in the league a long time. We say baby, that means he's 32, 33, but uh hopped around a little bit. But you know, hopefully he had some family there. Watch him hit that dinger tonight. And he's a big boy. And I watched the replay and I thought that they they did it in slow motion because he was swinging so slow and he's so big, and then they showed it like three more times. No, it was real speed. It looked like he half swung and the ball went 372 feet. So good for him. I have swing the shortstop's calling off the pitcher. Okay, so I'm just saying that. But and then out here in our neck of the woods, kind of sort of, but for our baseball neck of the woods out in the west, Seattle has a one-game lead. They're only one game over 500. The um uh they're just one game ahead of the not Oakland, not Sacramento, not Las Vegas, even though Pop's informed me they did play in Las Vegas this week, and I was kind of looking at him like he was an idiot, but they did play in Las Vegas this week, so that's good. But uh Seattle, you know, 37, 36 leading the division. I mean, we have a real chance. It's you know, we kind of say it every week, and I don't know if I feel like deja vu, and either Pop is really good at sitting still or he's frozen, Josh. So yeah, I know I was freaking me out a little bit. I was like, why is he staring at me like that? What'd I do to you? Didn't do anything. But uh, I mean, as it stands today, dude, it's like it's been every stinking week, it seems like, even when the Rangers are on a skid. But us and the A's are tied for the last wild card spot there in the in the American League. So, I mean, the only movement we really had is uh, you know, Yankees and Tampa Bay, I think, were tied last week. They're only one game ahead now, so that's gonna be fun to watch that play out the rest of the year and see if this team gets a shot in the arm and some people like Belly and Goldie and them can step up in there and judge his absence. But uh, yeah, we're gonna get into it in a little bit. But you know, surprisingly so, your Chicago White Sox are mathematically tied. One less loss, but one less win than Cleveland. They're tied atop the central, but that's what I got for us in the L right now.

SPEAKER_01 4:14

Hell yeah. All right, thank you for that, Slate dude. Um, so I think one big thing um that we want to talk about is those Chicago White Sox because um, I mean, really, since when they won in the whole kit and caboodle back in 2005 against Houston Astros. How many games did it take?

SPEAKER_04 4:38

I think it was a sweep. It was a sweep, that's right. And I think that game four or one of the games was on your 21st birthday when we were at Southern Junction. So I don't know how I remember, you know, anything. Well, I didn't I did because I'm the only idiot that was sober and had to drive all those drunk asses home. But anyways, that's not well in your defense, in your defense, you were only 20 at the time, yeah, exactly. And I got to be the DD for that was awesome. I just really enjoyed it, but now I'm 40. Who cares?

SPEAKER_01 5:10

This is a good time, it was a good time. Um, so yeah, the Chicago White Sox, um, a lot of young talent on that team. I think we kind of knew they had some hitters and position players coming up. Um, there he is. Hey Pops.

SPEAKER_04 5:26

Um we got you missed it when we were like I said, either your dad is staying extremely still and freaking us out, or he's frozen right now.

SPEAKER_00 5:34

I was lost the intranet, but I am back.

SPEAKER_01 5:38

All right. Um, so we're talking about the the Chi Socks. Uh good young hitters, but I I think one of the pleasant surprises has been their uh their pitching staff. Uh Anthony Cade looks like a like looks like a solid pitcher. Um uh Davis Martin is having a really good season. Uh you know, just uh probably need another bullpen arm if if you know we're being honest. But um, oh or maybe one or two if they're gonna go deep at all. But um, but yeah, I mean just uh just a really solid pitching staff, and then hitters up there that are playing like they got something to prove, like they're they're trying to win a job at the major league level. Um lots of hustling and and lots of home runs. They're hitting a they're hitting a lot of bombs.

SPEAKER_04 6:31

I think that's what's saving them. I mean, just looking through their stats, Josh, I'm sure we'll dig deeper into it. I mean, no one's killing it as far as average goes, no one's killing it as far as on base, but you know what? They're getting those timely hittings, and when balls go over the fence when people aren't on base, that equals uh usually more wins than losses.

SPEAKER_00 6:47

Yeah, and people they just they just took two out of three from the Dodgers. They were a ran out away from sweeping the Braves last week last week. Oh, so yeah, they're not just beating up on their own division, are they? They are they are for real.

SPEAKER_04 7:02

Yeah. And did y'all see though how Yamamoto lost his perfect game yesterday? How you saw it, Fops, didn't you? No.

SPEAKER_00 7:11

I did not.

SPEAKER_04 7:12

So there were two outs in the eighth, and routine ground balls hit the shortstop. Mukey boots it. Oh man. But then he'd so good, let him stay out there because he hadn't thrown a lot of pitches. Brought him back out for the ninth, and I forgot who the leoff hitter was. It was like 10-0, but the leadoff hitter hit a home run, so he gave it one hit, one run. Yeah. So, but it was it was pretty cool, you know. But they were showing, I guess the exact same thing happened to him. I think in Milwaukee last year at Yamamoto, where he had a perfect perfecto going into the the ninth, and they threw him back out there first pitch of the ninth home run. And then yeah, it's like, all right, time to get your ass out of here. It was fun white lasted, right? But that dude, I mean, they're all amazing. But no, I didn't realize, Pops, that they took last two series from two of the best teams in freaking the entire league. So that's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 8:00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:01

Yeah, I mean, and the and those are two teams that are and uh the the Dodgers, it's not like they're in a weak division. I mean, you've got Arizona and San Diego that have been right on their heels, even through a couple of winning or losing streaks, Colorado as well, right? Yeah, you can definitely watch out for the Rocks, yeah. Um Byron did score yesterday, folks.

SPEAKER_04 8:25

23-9. Wow. Oh, he's they still gave up nine runs and and they won by 14, also.

SPEAKER_00 8:32

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I put that in the text. How do you how does it feel you score nine runs and still lose by 14? Had a grand slam home run in the eighth inning to make it 22 to 9 and then added another one. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 8:45

Um, but uh, but yeah, so I mean, what are you guys seeing out of the White Sox? And the big question is, you know, and Slay you kind of already answered it already when you were going through the standings. Are are these boys for real? Or is this a little bit of lightning in the bottle for the first couple months of the season? Um do they have a good chance because they're in a weak division? What do y'all think?

SPEAKER_00 9:13

I I I I think they're for real, and you know, they've done it for the last two weeks without uh Nagasaki, uh, who was um you know first second or third in the league in home runs. So uh, you know, when he gets back, I figure they'll they'll continue to do more. Uh, you know, I clearly think they have a they have a chance that um you know the Royals aren't going anywhere, the twins aren't going anywhere. Uh, you know, with Scuble back now, the Tigers may get some momentum and jump up, but um, you know, they may be too far behind already anyway. But you know, uh at this point, uh it wouldn't surprise me at all if the uh if the White Sox uh got into the snuck into the playoffs at the at the very worse as the the third the third wild card because this is this the American League is as bad as uh I can remember it in a long time. It's you know same conversation we were having about the National League last year. Um but but yeah, well I I actually found my find myself rooting for them a little bit. I checked the standings looking for what they do almost as much as I do for the Rangers and the Cardinals at this point.

SPEAKER_01 10:11

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's it's fun when you see those underdogs kind of coming up, and it's not like they are a team like the Marlins that just don't spend any money. They they always spend a little bit of money. I mean, they I think what helped them a little bit this year was getting out of Luis Robert Jr.'s contract. They were able to spend a little bit more money, put it elsewhere. Um, but yeah, I mean they've they've I remember the White Sox teams because most of the times it was the Cubbies that would come on GN WGN when I was a kid, but every once in a while you'd get uh you'd get a White Sox game. Like when the Cubs had a day off or something, right?

SPEAKER_03 10:54

Yeah, like when the Cubs were playing.

SPEAKER_01 10:57

But man, I remember those teams with like Lance Johnson, Ray Durham, Frank Thomas, Robin Ventura. I mean, those were some pretty pretty fun teams. Oh, yeah, back in the day. So uh I think Albert Bell played for them after after he left Cleveland. Um, so yeah, pretty pretty, pretty fun teams back then. Um or mags was Maglio or Donz on that?

SPEAKER_00 11:25

Yep, he was. Definitely, you know, they had some they had some playoff playoff teams for sure. Yeah, he was the one with the perm mallet. Yep. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:34

Yeah. Yeah, he was a player.

SPEAKER_02 11:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:38

So uh, but I mean, pretty crazy. I think this is I I think they had a short stint in 2022 where they were in the lead in the division. Um if I'm rem remembering right, the White Sox did.

SPEAKER_00 11:53

But I mean, other than that, I think they did they did they make the playoffs in 2021? And then maybe they went and got LaRussa to be the manager, and then he tanked the whole thing. Oh maybe missed the whole the whole thing.

SPEAKER_01 12:06

Yeah, it was something like that. They were they did well before LaRussa took over.

SPEAKER_00 12:11

And then he went he went all old school and was sleeping in the dugout. 2021, Josh.

SPEAKER_04 12:17

They lost to the Astros in the divisional series three to one.

SPEAKER_00 12:22

Okay. Yeah, I thought they had made the playoffs. Then they thought they were thought they were now we're gonna get a real manager and we're gonna kill kill kill the world. And Lewis had just set him back. He didn't I don't even think he, I don't even think he finished the season.

SPEAKER_03 12:36

Yeah, I think it was bad.

SPEAKER_00 12:38

Yeah, they they put him on personal leave.

SPEAKER_01 12:43

Just go go nap at home. We got it.

SPEAKER_04 12:46

So we can fire you or we can just tell everybody that you resigned, okay?

SPEAKER_01 12:50

So just not you have um so Slay dude, do they win it or do they go in as a wild card?

SPEAKER_04 13:01

You know, like Pop said, I find myself and Josh, because you gave them some love in our preseason podcast. I find myself looking at where they are, and I find myself rooting for them. Just, you know, any team that's been so bad for so long, and in their case, historically, but I mean so long, we say so long, five years, but uh, but historically bad two seasons ago, pretty pretty bad last year. So um, no, I'm I'm rooting for him, but you look through, I mean, they got mean Martin's their only starting pitcher. I mean, he has a 2.41 ERA. The other starters all have over four, okay? And so it's not like they're killing it. Yes, they're gonna need some relief pitching. And you know, I think I kind of don't remember if I touched on during the standings. No one as far as average or whatever is killing it, but you do have Nagasaki Murakami, who is has 20 home runs, and I didn't realize he's hurt, so I should probably stay on top more of those things since I'm on a baseball podcast. But so, but you just you have some guys though that are putting up some big RBI numbers. I mean, they have three dudes, Murakami included, Vargas Montgomery, they have 40 plus RBIs. I mean, they're they're timely hittings there. You know, we always kind of just say Cleveland's that team. I don't know how they do it. They're not always going to be like that in their division. I think this is maybe the year, I don't know, but I don't think it's a fluke. I mean, they've played you know exactly 70 games this year. That's more than enough for a sample size, and maybe not for the division, like Pop said, but when you're in an extremely weak American league, dude, I have no doubt they're a playoff team. I don't, I can't say, but I just would say, I guess, based off of recent history, Cleveland takes the division, but I don't see anyone else catching those two. I mean, you know, Minnesota's six and a half out, they're the third third team in the division. They are third, they're not tied with anybody either because the trolls are.

SPEAKER_01 14:49

Minnesota is such a weird team, Slade, dude. When you see the you see the like the the uh highlights and stuff like that, like they have games where they look like they are ready to take the division, and then they have games where they look like a high school team that we've never played this game before, right?

SPEAKER_00 15:09

Yeah, kind of like they're Rangers.

SPEAKER_04 15:11

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, kind of like losing six, nothing. The next day you win 10-nothing. What the hell are we doing? Yeah, you know, or letting the Boston team beat the shit out of you two games in a row, and then you turn around on Sunday night baseball and win. I mean, now we're losing to the twins right now. I don't know. Yeah. But no, I mean, I'm excited. I'm excited for Chicago. I think that that's cool as hell. And I I think I don't think there's any doubt there's a playoff team, but if I had to say right now, I'd say they'd be the first, right? Well, not first, because that's gonna go to Tampay or New York with second wild card in the league.

SPEAKER_01 15:43

Yeah, yeah, I think it's uh I think it's pretty interesting. I guess probably since we started the podcast, I have focused a lot less. Like the Rangers are still my team, that's who I want to win. But I do notice myself really looking at the rest of the standings and how some of these other teams are doing. I guess because you know, following them so closely in the offseason and and the moves they were making and stuff like that. And are I don't know, you get to kind of you want to kind of root for the underdog that doesn't have the you know what is it, $450 million payroll or whatever that the Dodgers have.

SPEAKER_04 16:20

Okay, let's go ahead and say I think it's like $700 million.

SPEAKER_01 16:26

But uh but yeah, it's it's pretty cool watching these these uh these teams get out there and do it. And I mean the the I would put the Cardinals in that too. I mean they're if they weren't still paying everybody else's salaries, they'd be kind of probably on the bottom rungs of the payroll if they weren't paying players to to play for other teams. But uh but yeah, it's uh it's still a big baseball town, so I don't know how far down I put the Cardinals. They still make a lot of money, so they can spend money if they need to. Um one last question about the White Sox. What do you think they do at the trade deadline? Are they gonna make a push? Are they gonna go out and get some bullpenhill?

SPEAKER_00 17:13

Yeah, I I think they do something. You know, they've they've been too active, they were too active in the offseason, and it's uh produced results, right? So I I think they're gonna do I think they're gonna do something. I'm not gonna sit here and tell you I know enough about their team to um uh you know prognosticate about what it might be. Yeah, but they're gonna do something. That that's my guess. They will do something.

SPEAKER_01 17:41

How about a roll this chapman? You know, you know, he's not gonna be in a Boston uniform by the end of this season, dude. I like that a lot, Josh.

SPEAKER_04 17:51

Yeah, like I didn't see that's why you're like our dear leader. So I I don't think that they need necessarily anything offensively, but I think yeah, good, strong bullpen guy, and hey.

SPEAKER_01 18:05

Oh, a lights out closer like Chapman?

SPEAKER_04 18:08

I doubt it.

SPEAKER_01 18:09

What about Scoobyl? Yeah, but that's also on your division, too. Yeah, it is. But I mean, so if Detroit's season is gone, do they care about giving Scuble up to a division rival for a couple of months? Yeah, if they don't they don't plan on re-signing him long term, you think they do, Wendell?

SPEAKER_00 18:28

I I think they do, um, because I think I I think they would go on the basis that whomever they trade him to would have the in okay, you're right.

SPEAKER_04 18:38

Would be like in rope. This is the team that's gonna sign him long term. We don't want to face him for the next seven years, right? Okay, so you're right on that.

SPEAKER_00 18:46

Pretty much.

SPEAKER_04 18:47

But what if they said, look, um, we'll trade him to you, but you have to promise that you're not gonna sign him after this.

SPEAKER_01 18:54

They're on the phone with like their fingers crossed behind their backs.

SPEAKER_04 19:04

You wouldn't do that.

SPEAKER_00 19:08

You can't triple stamp a double stamp.

SPEAKER_04 19:10

Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I think just because they've had these good off seasons and obviously it's paying off. Yeah, I think for sure at least a bullpen guy wouldn't surprise me. Maybe even a second-tier starter, like I said, you know, besides Davis. I mean, they uh the starters ain't all that, right? And bullpen does need some help. But yeah, I like I like uh what you said with Chatman there, Josh.

SPEAKER_01 19:37

Yeah, that'd be I mean that putting that guy in your ninth inning, you're probably not gonna have anything to worry about, you know. And that I think that's one of the things that's been a game changer for uh teams that we've seen that have kind of sucked in recent years and now they're they're you know making a put like like the White Sox or um God, maybe even the A's. I I dare to put them up there. Um, because we're just they're just barely floating around 500. Um, but the Pirates, um, you know, the the Diamondbacks, uh surprisingly, the the Cardinals, I think the Cardinals, we'd be real surprised with their record if they had a lights out back end of the bullpen guy. But these these teams that you see that not a lot of people were thinking they were gonna win, they are winning because when they're ahead in games, their bullpen's not giving up the league. That's a huge difference between what they are doing this year and what they did last year. So um, and just hitting it all is also a big difference, right? Um I mean, how many times, how many times, hey Sophia, how many times uh how many times did we see the Rangers last year?

SPEAKER_00 20:53

Robert Garcia goes out on the mound, and we're like, oh dude, I I still I still think Schumacher hit hit hit him in their left arm with the with a sledgehammer.

SPEAKER_04 21:04

Look, man, you know every contract's guaranteed, right? Let me see your hand. He casinoed him like that guy that got his.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. And uh, I I think uh Cory Seager stomped on Chris Martin's foot, so he would go on the DL thing.

SPEAKER_04 21:21

I think all you had to do was touch Chris Martin's shoulder, and he probably would have had ACL surgery.

SPEAKER_00 21:27

It would have been like a soccer player, just yeah, like a stretch.

SPEAKER_01 21:32

Has Seeger been playing?

SPEAKER_00 21:35

No, he's on the collision. He he has been he hadn't played since that collision, and they announced today they put put him on the five-day concussion protocol IL. He'll be back Friday.

SPEAKER_01 21:45

That was a pretty gnarly looking collision.

SPEAKER_00 21:48

When was that? I can't see it. That was that had to have was that Saturday? I don't remember if that was Saturday. It was Saturday, because you said something about him not being in the lineup on first Sunday.

SPEAKER_03 21:57

But did you see Evan Grant's Evan Grant's comment?

SPEAKER_00 22:00

Comments on that uh thing that I sent you. He said Seager wasn't running hard. He didn't think so. He said he wasn't running hard and didn't think he'd be sent. And then when he got the got the go sign, then he's then he put it in, and that's what made the play close. He said if he'd have been running hard, he never would have it wouldn't have the play wouldn't have been close. Yeah, it wouldn't have happened.

SPEAKER_04 22:19

And dude, and this is every player, not just Seager, you know, from what I've seen from Randros, dude. But I remember like back Josh in the 90s, late 90s, when you know we were going Pudge or Rusty Greer hit one to shortstop or second, or even Will Clark help. They ran to first base as hard as they possibly could. Now these guys, they know if it's a routine play, and like Pop's saying, you know, if there's a bobble, they're still gonna be out because they're not running out of the box. And why would you ever assume that you're not getting sent?

SPEAKER_01 22:47

Right? It happened to everybody's favorite New Yorker, Juan Soto, just last week. Oh, yeah, but that dude didn't he hit the second, he bobbled it, and he decided to turn it. He looked up and was like, Oh crap. Yeah, there's no reason to he should be out on the box, slamming his bat down, and then he's he's four steps walking out of the box before he realizes oh, the guy bobbled the ball, and then he tries to run.

SPEAKER_00 23:11

Well, that's the one thing that annoys me about pedto. That guy, I mean, every ground ball he hits, he he lollygags out of the out of the batter's box every time. And it's not like he's trying to save himself for playing the outfield. Yeah, he has one job, it's four, it's four bats a game.

SPEAKER_01 23:29

Yes, here's what I will be trying to save your legs, right? He's a base dealer, guys. Yeah, so when you have a guy like because I see Judge do it a little bit too, right? Judge isn't going. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm just saying Aaron Judge, he's not out there busting it down the line whenever. When you are the marquee player, at least nowadays, I've noticed that the Juan Sotos, the Aaron Judges, and I think Corey Seager being our star player, probably fits into that. Where hey, I'd rather you stay healthy for 140 games a year than be busting it down the line on every play.

SPEAKER_00 24:14

Yeah, but uh you gotta go hard at least until they you see them feel the ball cleanly, right?

SPEAKER_01 24:19

Yep, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 24:20

Give me give me 10 hard steps. And you know, when when that when that dude, right? That's and when that when that 10 hard strides, not even steps, 10 hard strides, right? And when you see that guy, he feels the ball cleanly and he's got an easy peg to first, you know, back off. Yeah, but I don't want any Ruben Mateo either, right? You know, I'm not asking for that, but you know, at least make the guy catch the ball cleanly.

SPEAKER_04 24:42

Yeah, no, that's a little nervous. That's exactly what I was gonna say, right? They can they see busting, dude. If they ran half as hard as Nemo did when he got walked, they'd be safe on these plays. I think that's why I like Nemo so much, is he's just such a max effort guy. And and I get it, and that guys like Corey Sea obviously are prone to getting hurt. We've seen that, but you're also a major league baseball player, you're supposed to be the you know, obviously not vocal, but the leader of this team. And when they see you ground out to second, like you said, Josh and Pops, like these guys aren't even looking to see if they filled the ball, their heads are down and they're jogging. Yeah, look up and see what they're doing. That doesn't that take no energy, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 25:22

Right, no effort. Yeah, just watch the ball, yeah. I will say I don't agree with the Aaron Judges and the Seagers, like coasting it, right? That to your point, Pops, that's what happened is he was coasting it into third, thinking I'm gonna save my legs. I'm not I don't know how many outs there were or anything, you know, that kind of situation. But he's lucky he didn't pull a hamstring when he did kick it into gear round in third. Yeah, you're more prone to getting hurt doing that, right? Um but then you have I I don't remember if it was 2007 or 2009 when Pudge came back to the Rangers for like maybe half a season or so. Y'all remember that? Yeah, I think it was '97.

SPEAKER_00 26:06

Yeah, yeah. He was he was he had he had a good enough half season to win the MVP.

SPEAKER_01 26:11

Right. That's when he won the AL MVP with the Marlins, right? I'm talking about I'm talking about when he came back. Um, so when he came back, he's a 16, 17-year veteran, whatever he was, right? Everybody, I mean, first Ballot Hall of Famer, right? There was no doubt in anybody's mind. He hits a two-hopper up the middle, second baseman runs over, and I think even Josh Lewin made a comment about it, if I remember right. But two hopper to second base, and Pudge, who's at this point, you know, whatever like I said 37 years old or whatever. Um he is huffing it, dude. This is a guy who caught how many games in his career, and he is an all-time record, whatever it was.

SPEAKER_00 27:00

It was an all-time record.

SPEAKER_01 27:01

I think it was around a million ass down there.

SPEAKER_00 27:03

About a million. Like you want, like anyone can even know that.

SPEAKER_04 27:09

Can you even know how many innings Putsch caught? That's our trivia question later, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 27:16

Right. But he, I mean, just hoofing it, hoofing it down the line.

unknown 27:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:20

If this guy can do it, then a 32-year-old who has six years left on a $300 million contract and go half speed.

SPEAKER_01 27:30

Right. Yeah. Um, all right. So let's get into a little National League fellers. Good stuff on the American League there and those Chicago White Sox. Um, Pops, run us through the standings. What are we looking at this week?

SPEAKER_00 27:44

All right. So in the uh start off with in the NL East, uh, as we usually do, home of two of the three hottest teams in the National League, the Nationals and the Marlins. And they have ridden their seven and three hot streaks to a 9-and-11 game margin behind the Atlanta Braves. So they are well done, guys. Well done. Uh, so so the Braves continue to lead the lead lead the league. They've they've had a couple of setbacks, lost a couple of series here in the last week. Uh Strider goes on the NL on the IL today for four weeks. Uh so we'll see if uh he's he strained strained something.

SPEAKER_01 28:25

Yeah, I think it was a placenta. Or is a bleak.

SPEAKER_00 28:30

So so he's he's gone for four weeks. So hope, you know, hopefully they don't have their injury bugaboo doesn't start popping popping back up. Uh the Phillies are within seven and a half games. So we'll kind of keep an eye on the Braves. I mean, obviously they've got a pretty good, pretty good lead uh and what have you, but uh we'll just keep an eye on on them. Uh in the uh in the central, uh home of the other hottest team in the in the National League, St. Louis Cardinals at seven and three, uh five games behind uh the Milwaukee Brewers and uh two and a half games ahead of these the Cubs, who are in sole possession of third place uh in the NL Central.

SPEAKER_04 29:09

You're damn right they are all by themselves. All by themselves.

SPEAKER_00 29:14

Yeah. And uh the the other the the other two teams in the central are the two coldest teams in the in the national league at the Pirates at three and seven, and and the Reds are uh two and eight in their last ten and are four games under 500, although they they boat raced the Mets tonight 12 12 to 12 to nothing. So uh, you know, I guess we'll we'll kind of see how the how the Cubs um if they can hold on, uh get some get some people healthy. We talked about that a lot last week. And if the Cardinals decide to go make a move on their bullpen to kind of make a run, you know, I think the Brewers have um, I think what is today, probably the odds on um young award winner. I I think uh it may not have been that way a week ago or two weeks ago, but I think Sanchez kind of faltered this past week. His ERA for this past week was in the fours uh for his two start.

SPEAKER_04 30:06

So yeah, yeah, they got to put him on the IL, get him.

SPEAKER_00 30:09

Yeah, some something. Oh yeah, it doesn't, I mean, you know, but they were they were already that close, right? And then Mizarovsky pitched a all but a perfect game, right? Minimum, minimum number of batters faced, one one, one hit and uh 15 strikeouts. I know we're gonna get into that here in a minute.

SPEAKER_04 30:25

He got his he had a Maddox. So what's the definition of a Maddox?

SPEAKER_00 30:28

I believe it's a complete game with less than a hundred pitches, right? Okay, that's it.

SPEAKER_01 30:33

What does something do when you strike out 15?

SPEAKER_00 30:37

Well, he struck out 15. So even if even if he strikes out them all on oh and three counts, that's 45 pitches right there.

SPEAKER_04 30:46

Right, yeah. The only guy who did that was Brendan Fraser in the first game of the World Series in the movie The Scout.

SPEAKER_00 30:52

So there you go. Yeah, so you know, he he took those other 50 pitches to get the other 12 12 outs, and you know, obviously it was less than 50 because he didn't strike all 15 of them weren't oh and three, you know, weren't struck out on three pitches, right?

SPEAKER_04 31:06

So you saying that makes that even more unbelievable, right?

SPEAKER_00 31:09

Doesn't it? Uh and then uh get into the uh NL West. Uh so the Dodgers continue to set the pace there. Uh nobody's uh doing anything to separate themselves. Uh Shohay's got a sore knee, so we'll kind of see how that how that goes. Um, you know, they've already been trying to rest him more as it is, and now with the they don't think it's anything any any big deal, but uh they will they will take him uh continue to be conservative with with him. Um, you know, the the Dodgers are the only team in that division with a positive uh run differential. You know, somehow the uh the Diamondbacks are a game over 500 with a negative 20 run differential. Um you know, the Padres, they're coming to town this weekend, so uh so it'll be interesting to see what they do uh with the Rangers. Um I'm sure their outcomes will be right. That'll be good. Yeah, I'm sure Tottees will hit his first five home runs of the year here. Um but uh you know so they're they're floating along at 500. Uh saw on Twitter today the Giants uh they're ready to deal devers, uh Chapman, uh a rise, any any anybody that anybody wants is there for the taking. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:24

What about um Tony Vatello?

SPEAKER_00 32:27

Um there he's they're keeping him. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 32:30

But uh I think he's going back to Tennessee, so yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:34

But but I think today must must have been like the one-year anniversary of the Devers trade, because they were talking about it on the on the athletic, and it was uh you know a trade that didn't work out for any either of them, right? The the the Red Sox moved moved the money to try to so they could get Bregman to sign, and he went on with the Cubs, he opted out and went with the Cubs. Uh, and then Devers, you know, I I think he's been a pretty good citizen over there compared to what he was at with Boston, but you know, he just got himself traded to a freaking cavern.

SPEAKER_01 33:05

Oh, yeah, the worst hitter for a or the worst ballpark for a left-handed type of hitter. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:11

You know, and and he doesn't have he doesn't have the bonds roid power to you know to get everything over the fence out there into the into the Pacific Ocean. You know, we'll start.

SPEAKER_03 33:20

We'll see.

SPEAKER_00 33:21

Maybe maybe we'll see. But you know, it's so you know, and I you know, I I you would think that there would be a lot of teams that would be interested in devers. Um, even though I mean admittedly, you admittedly you're taking on a $30 million a year contract, and you know, you got six or seven years left on it. But get him out of San Francisco, and he's gonna be you would think he would be go back to being the Raphael Devers of of old, right? Yeah. And he's it's very much ballpark induced. It's kind of like all the guys in Colorado that were raking, nobody would ever sign them because it's they all thought it was just all ballparked friendly. Yeah, so uh, but it'll be interesting to see what they do with with Devers and where where he might land. But uh, you know, I I think probably the team that could really use him would be the Red Sox. So they're looking for a right-handed power. Yeah, let's see. Let's see how that one works out. Let's see how that works out. Um I I laugh because it's we laugh because it's it's actually true. Um but anyway, and then of course he's left-handed, so there's that. So uh right. Yeah. No, he's left. Oh, I see what you did there. Got him. He didn't know what to say after that. He almost said right again. Yeah, he was like, What the hell are you talking about?

SPEAKER_01 34:46

Yeah, uh, who do who do you think a guy like uh like Devers would really what team would they go to? Like what team could really use a uh I mean any team could would take Devers, I think, except for Boston. But uh at least what he brings to the field. I don't know if any team would take on his his salary, but like think of a playoff contender that could really use a big bat and a solid serviceable first baseman. How about Millywauke A? Yeah, they don't spend that kind of money.

SPEAKER_00 35:27

They don't spend that kind of money, but they would probably have to give up some of their young pitching, so they may not want to. But I think an interesting team to consider might might be the Blue Jays. And obviously he would go, he would go be a the he would be the DH there, right? Because he got the junior at first base and Clement and Ernie Clement at third base, who's uh unless they wanted to put him at second or whatever to backfield for backfield. He can he can play the middle infield a little bit too.

SPEAKER_01 35:57

Uh yeah, maybe to backfield for but they have Okamoto at third. Yeah, plays most of the things.

SPEAKER_00 36:04

But but DH is probably the right right place for him any any any anyway. Um you know. You know, I I I think somebody like the the um the the Mets, what would the what would the Mets have to give up? You know, do they have any pitching or do they is there somebody, you know um, but they're probably not gonna spend any more money given everything that they've spent, you know, unless uh you know the the Dodgers or the Giants would probably have to take Simeon. Three three-way trade, Simeon and Yeah, you know to the Mets, and then we get to you know, maybe the Phillies. Uh again, they they don't really need a third baseman a first baseman or a DH, but you know, they all those all those positions are pretty well stacked between Schwarber and Harper and uh Bohm or Stott. I don't forget who the third baseman is, but they're not looking for third and stott's at second.

SPEAKER_01 37:05

Yeah, yeah, no. So they got a lot of left-handed power. Put his ass in right field for always Garcia.

SPEAKER_00 37:10

Yeah, but but you know, well, he's he's on the IL. He took his 196 average and pulled his tamp string on the way to the not running out of ground ball. You pulled a seager. But you know, I mean you they'll never spend the money, but you know, who could really use him as uh as the Rangers?

SPEAKER_04 37:29

Yeah. I was gonna say the same.

SPEAKER_00 37:31

I would not mind Hills in that one at all. Maybe they can maybe they could take Peterson. If you're the Giants, would would you would you take Peterson? Would knowing he's got the rest of this year and another year for 18 million, and then you you get seven years of 35 million dollars.

SPEAKER_04 37:51

Does he have another player option with us? I think he's done. No, I think this is this last year. Is this it? Yeah, if it's not, then I don't know if I'm gonna be on this podcast again.

SPEAKER_01 38:01

So I'm pretty sure that's it was a two-year $36 million, if I remember right.

SPEAKER_04 38:09

Again, why he opted into that, judging by what he could have got in the open market, I have no idea, but you know, he did. So what can we do about that? Right.

SPEAKER_00 38:17

Yeah, I hear you. Uh, you know, I mean, but I I think um unfortunately Devers is uh you know left-handed power hitter. Unfortunately, in the the way the baseball is played today, it's not really a a commodity. Yeah, you know, he he's not he's not a uh next level guy like uh junior, body junior or um soto. Um you know, he's really good, but yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 38:48

How many years has he got what five years left on his contract or whatever?

SPEAKER_00 38:51

Something like that. It was a seven or ten year deal.

SPEAKER_04 38:54

It's kind of yeah, whoever whoever gets him, it's gonna be a commitment, right? So I think a lot of teams see what happened in Boston, and you know, they don't want that to happen to them, too, right?

SPEAKER_00 39:05

So I I you know, like I said, he's been a pretty good citizen in New York and San Francisco, and he's played wherever they've asked him without any any uh any pushback. But does Cincinnati spend the money?

SPEAKER_01 39:17

You get Hunter Green back and you got Andrew Abbott? There's no way I think they can make it back.

SPEAKER_00 39:21

I don't there's no way they ever spend that kind of money, A and and B. You know, they're they're they're in fifth, you know, they're in fifth place, and they're they're they're really chasing really chasing it. I mean, she would have a million home runs in that ballpark.

SPEAKER_01 39:35

Right, yeah. I'm I'm that's what I'm trying to think. I was like, who really needs a big left-handed bat? And I'm like, man, Ellie de la Cruz and then Devers and then Gino Suarez 234 or 345, however they set it up nowadays. There's there's some bop in that. Sal Stewart, don't leave Sal Stewart out, he's another big bopper.

SPEAKER_00 39:57

Um but yeah, that'll be interesting. Just Dia's only there for the I mean, uh, what's his name? Suarez. He's only signed through uh this for this year, right? So you know they could they could just lot Devers into his salary. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 40:13

I thought he got three years, but maybe there's a couple of options. Maybe it's one year guaranteed, and then there's a couple options.

SPEAKER_04 40:19

Yeah, I thought it was a one-year bill because I thought we were all surprised by that. Sucker, son of a bitch, motherfucker. Yeah, I mean, I was upset too when I heard that. So well, I just got locked out.

SPEAKER_01 40:33

Of the house? Don't ask, don't ask her to set an alarm for you. Well, next time you'll set your own fucking alarm, won't you?

SPEAKER_04 40:41

I guess we can all just drop F-bombs since Pops just did it, so our rating this week's. I just bumped about 20.

SPEAKER_00 40:48

Yeah, I think some some CS and everything else.

SPEAKER_04 40:53

Just went too explicit. That's what I don't think I've ever heard that phrase referred to as a CSer, but okay.

SPEAKER_00 40:59

Well, I didn't want to say it again.

SPEAKER_04 41:03

Thanks for not repeating really ruined our rating this week, so we appreciate that.

SPEAKER_01 41:08

All right, so enough uh devers and explicit content. Let's go on to what we were going to be talking about and the Miz. That is that is the subject for the National League this week. So, just in case everybody missed it earlier, not only did he pitch a Maddox, which is a complete game shutout in less than 100 pitches, um, named after Greg Maddox, for those of you who really don't follow baseball. Right, yeah, Greg Maddox. Um he also struck out 15 in those 95 pitches that he threw. He only allowed one hit, and um he threw the fastest pitch recorded by a starter since the stat cast era at 104.5 miles an hour. Unbelievable. Right. Uh no walks, by the way. I don't know if that was obvious by him keeping the account low, but um but yeah, so like in y'all's recent memory, where does this rank as far as like best performances by a pitcher?

SPEAKER_04 42:27

I think it's up there with thinking about Joshua Ree and high school or whatever when Kerry Wood through the 20 strikeout game. I mean, it's just and then Pop said it earlier when you just think about that many strikeouts, and it wasn't, but it was a minimum of 45 pitches to strike out 50 people, yeah, and you still throw less than 100 pitches. Yeah, that's unbelievable. This dude, and and yes, obviously the one 104 and a half miles an hour. This is a max v low type dude, but he doesn't look like he strains to do it either. Yeah, it just looks like it's just smooth sailing, the easiest 104 I've ever seen. You know, it's just for well, only because I don't know no one else knows that hard, let's be honest. And the fact that Stark's doing that crap, I mean, what are we doing here, right? He's setting new he's setting new velocity records every single week. And dude, that guy, it's like pops from last year. Anytime school will pitch, you're like, we gotta watch this, dude. Um I'm gonna try to find some way to watch a Milwaukee game every time that guy's on the mound, because this is just unstinking real.

SPEAKER_01 43:37

Yeah, yeah, he's definitely he's definitely a guy that's gonna put butts in seats, I think.

SPEAKER_00 43:44

Not just the only thing close that I can remember in recent memories gotta be one of uh Ren Randy Johnson pitched a perfect game. I don't remember how many he struck out in his he pitched a perfect game. I don't remember how many he struck out, but you know, right up there with Colfax had a Perfect game with 15-16 strikeouts. Um, yeah, I mean that's that's the only thing to to compare it to. And none of those guys were in the nine were under 100 pitches, I can promise you that.

SPEAKER_01 44:13

Yeah, yeah, they were like 120, 130 for sure.

SPEAKER_04 44:17

Yeah, let's be honest.

SPEAKER_01 44:19

Yeah. Um Roy Halliday, perfect game in the playoffs. But I don't think you know. Okay. Oh, I thought it was a perfecto. It might have been. I thought it was no hitter, anyways. But I'll look it up.

SPEAKER_00 44:36

But he didn't have those that kind of strikeouts, though, right?

SPEAKER_01 44:39

No, no. Yeah, he was uh he was a movement ground ball guy, but um but yeah, so I mean that's that's gotta be up there with some of the best, you know. Evans, I mean he's named the the outing or or the accomplishment, I guess, is named after one of the best pitchers that we grew up watching, Greg Maddox. But Greg Maddox wasn't striking out 15.

SPEAKER_04 45:05

And he wasn't throwing 104, throwing 80 number.

SPEAKER_01 45:08

No, right, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:11

So um pretty win 104 gold gloves in a row, but yeah, right.

SPEAKER_04 45:16

He did as many gold gloves as Pudget Innings caught, okay.

SPEAKER_01 45:24

But who would even know how many that was? I know, uh I know it's like it's it's up there, right? Roy Halliday perfect game. Um I remember Randy Johnson's. I remember him doing it. I remember Kenny Rogers throwing his perfect game. I was there, boys.

SPEAKER_00 45:44

Yeah, didn't you weren't you at that game? I knew that was coming. Yeah, I sure as hell was.

SPEAKER_04 45:51

Are you wearing that pickleball trophy? Oh no, it was this thing? No, I'm I can't even believe y'all saw it. It's weird.

SPEAKER_01 45:58

Dude, tell us, yeah, tell us about your your pickleball tournament real quick. Tell us how you do it.

SPEAKER_04 46:04

I got third place in a pickleball tournament. Good job, dude. That's all everybody needs to know about that.

SPEAKER_01 46:09

So we got your medal. That's almost as good as the meth striking out 15 and less than.

SPEAKER_04 46:14

Well, I just didn't want him to get all the credit this week. I played a local pickleball tournament with nine people.

SPEAKER_00 46:23

So you know what pickleball is, right? It's tennis for old people. What tennis where you don't have to move.

SPEAKER_04 46:31

Push them for and yeah, and I played doubles Wendell, so I really don't have to move. I'm not playing singles. Screw that. That's looks so looks horrible. Yeah, but anyways, I'll take it off. But yeah, I just thought y'all should see that one, you know, and it wasn't AI in that picture I sent y'all.

SPEAKER_01 46:48

So I also love your name this week. I know 100% which movie it's from. Dad, you should too, because we used to watch it all the time.

SPEAKER_00 46:56

James Boudroux.

SPEAKER_01 46:58

Yeah, hard target. Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_04 47:01

Probably probably his best ever. With the monkey. And the only guy to ever punch a rattlesnake and knock him out, dude. So yeah, and then speed his tail off. Yeah, so he wouldn't spook the trap that he set when he bit the other guy in the face.

SPEAKER_00 47:20

So, I mean, it's just if have you guys ever watched uh Billy Billy Billy Jack?

SPEAKER_01 47:28

With uh Burt Reynolds?

SPEAKER_00 47:30

Tom Laughlin? No, no, no. So you gotta look up Billy Billy Jack. He was kind of uh uh the he lived on an Indian reservation and whatever. It was it was it was a it was a good movie, but um so he invented soccer no he invented he invented he in he was the first soccer player to learn martial arts. Oh that's so trivial. So he in this in this so look, see if you can find what if it's streaming anywhere and and and watch it. But in this one scene, he's he's he's being confronted in this in the in this park, public park, and these guys he's looking at this guy, and the guy says, What are you gonna do? And he says, I'm gonna take my right foot and I'm gonna knock you out by kicking you in your left ear. Oh, geez. And he said, I'd like to see that. And sure enough, he does a jumping spinning spin kick and knocks him out.

SPEAKER_04 48:30

Oh, nice. I thought it was gonna be more of an inside roundhouse, but that's good.

SPEAKER_00 48:34

Yeah, I mean, yeah, that you know, whatever, whatever they call that. I'm not I'm I'm not I'm neither Native American nor a martial artist expert, nor martial arts expert, so I don't know what the terminology is. I wouldn't have guessed how to get out. You were both. I mean, you know a lot about baseball too, don't get me wrong. But yeah, if you can find that, that's a pr pr pretty pretty fun movie.

SPEAKER_01 48:52

Okay, we'll we'll try to watch it one night.

SPEAKER_00 48:56

Didn't we just top down the podcast with 70s movie and trivia?

SPEAKER_04 49:01

That's our next podcast for starting everybody.

SPEAKER_01 49:04

So right, yeah. That'll be the that'll be the second episode every week. Movies that we've never heard of that dad tells us to watch.

SPEAKER_04 49:13

Our first review will be Chuck Norris and Lone Wolf McQuay.

SPEAKER_00 49:17

Oh yeah, that was filmed in El Paso. Oh yeah? Out in the middle of the desert, right outside of El Paso.

SPEAKER_01 49:25

Yes, I did not know that. Rest in peace, the goat, Chuck Norris. The goat.

SPEAKER_00 49:32

There you go.

SPEAKER_01 49:33

All right, back to Jason, Jacob Mizarowski. Sure, I got his name right now. Jason Statham. Oh, yeah. Uh another great martial artist. Um, so his ass though, so whatever. Oh, Van Damme would beat the shit out of Jason Statham, even now. Van Damme wouldn't be here.

SPEAKER_04 49:56

He's 65, or he'll be 65 in October, but I don't know if I know that.

SPEAKER_00 50:00

But yeah, I do. Billy Jack is on Prime Video for $3.99. You gotta rent it. Okay. I will do it.

SPEAKER_01 50:08

Probably not tonight. Yeah, well, it sounds important to you. I'll probably wait till tomorrow because I gotta I gotta work in the morning.

SPEAKER_04 50:15

To any of our listeners out there, if you want to watch Billy Jack, I'll pay for your rental, okay? Just so you know, it's on the MLB Clubhouse with the Jimmies.

SPEAKER_01 50:24

All right. Um, Jacob Mizerowski. Where does he rank as far as in the National League or the major leagues? Top starters. Where's he at? On y'all's list.

SPEAKER_00 50:40

I I think he's the easy top five and and making his way up every time he takes takes the ball, right? I mean, it's him, it's Scuble. Um, you know, it's uh Sanchez, obviously. Um, you know, shitter. Um who's the who's the guy in Cincinnati? Um Hunter Green? Not Hunter Green, not now, the one that's actually pitching. No, not him either. Who?

SPEAKER_01 51:13

Chase Chase Burns?

SPEAKER_00 51:16

Yes. So he's he's he's in the top top five in the S uh in the Cy Young favorites right now. He's number five, but it's uh but he's he's up there, but he's only number five right now. No, Chase Burns. Oh, okay. Mizer Mizorowski's number one. But uh pulled ahead of Christopher, right? I mean, I don't know who else you put ahead of him. Skeens up there still. You know, you know having a weird scheme. Yeah, it's really a weird year for him. I mean, obviously day one of the season, certainly he was he was up there, but you know, he just hasn't been as effective. I you know, I just I don't know what this the story is, whether he's trying to conserve himself to get to go longer in games. I don't know if he's pitching differently. You know, I I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 52:08

Um it's it's weird the things that can make a pitcher like have such a drastic difference. It it could be one degree of an arm angle. I mean it's so it's so crazy. But um so y'all put as far as like star power and and being able to go out there and shut teams down, y'all think y'all think he's up there with the big boys.

SPEAKER_00 52:32

Oh yeah, I I I do. I mean, if he's you know, and I gave him uh I gave him a huge ration of of shit last year because I I got aggravated at uh what's his name? Uh who's the commissioner of baseball? Fred Fred Manfred, Fred Robert or whatever his name is. I think it's Fred Robert Redford. Yes, yes. I think his name is for putting him on the for putting him on the all-star game after like three starts. But uh yeah, I guess I guess I guess he's kind of a uh a savant when it comes to that kind of stuff because certainly uh doesn't doesn't matter. Uh I I would tell you if if the rotation lines up right and rest runs up right, uh Mizerovsky's definitely going to be the starting pitcher in the all-star game this year.

SPEAKER_01 53:24

Oh, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_04 53:25

Yeah, he's got 0.34 ERA, a war of 3.9.

SPEAKER_00 53:32

Already I mean, we're in June. Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 53:38

And he's at a four war already. Right, yeah, that's pretty crazy. Yeah. Averaging 13.6 strikeouts a start. That's crazy. Oh, but his teammate Kyle Harrison has a really shitty 2.47R. He's only averaging 11k a start. Jeez, what a horrible one that is, huh?

SPEAKER_01 53:58

Right, yeah. That's another cost, isn't it? They got which I like Caleb Durbin as a player, but they got Caleb Durbin and Kyle Harrison's just out there mowing him down in Milwaukee. Brian Bayo is in the uh minor leagues now. He was one of the ones that they got in the Devers deal, wasn't it? And then Jordan Hicks is now pitching long relief for the Chicago White Sox.

SPEAKER_04 54:28

Is Campbell that dude that they signed from Boston after he had like a good series? Is he still in the minors?

SPEAKER_00 54:35

Chris Christian Campbell, the second baseman. Nine years, 180 million dollars. All right, will he ever get to the major leagues again? Yeah, playing for the Pop Tuck 10 hats.

SPEAKER_04 54:51

Oh no, I'm just I'm here paying to do a podcast. I'm jealous, so you know it's good.

SPEAKER_00 54:57

So what what what's what's Mizerovsky's pay rate this year?

SPEAKER_01 55:04

Per per nine? Slay said he's averaging was that 13.7.

SPEAKER_00 55:09

No, I'm talking, I'm talking about how many percentage of batters does he strike out. Oh, true of the batters face. What's the per?

SPEAKER_01 55:17

Oh god, man. I I don't want to sound crazy, but it's is it close to 40? Oh, it's coming from that. Is it?

SPEAKER_00 55:26

I mean pretty much right at right at 40.

SPEAKER_04 55:28

Yeah, if he's doing okay, that's okay, k per nine, yeah. Because I was thinking, well, hell, if he's doing seven innings a night and striking out 13, you know, but no, no, no, that's per nine. No, it's k percent, right? Yeah, that's what pop is saying. I was looking at the case per nine, though.

SPEAKER_00 55:44

Oh, I got trying to I'm trying to find K K per nine. You guys, you guys talk amongst yourselves. I'll see if I can find K per nine, it's gotta be in this somewhere. There's every other stat out there.

SPEAKER_04 55:55

I mean, he's gotta be right at over fit, like right at over 50 percent, right? I mean, if it's 27 outs a game, he's at 13.6.

SPEAKER_00 56:02

So well, so if he's striking out 13 per game, but he's only throwing seven innings per game, is his average per nine would be in excess of 13, right?

unknown 56:19

Right.

SPEAKER_04 56:19

Well, no, so what I'm seeing, it's they extrapolated out it's K per nine innings, is what I'm looking at, and it's 13.6. Oh, K per nine, yeah, not per start, but five innings pitched. Yeah, yeah. It's pretty good. That's pretty good. Well, if you're into that kind of stuff, I guess. Yeah, I know I'm gonna start his cave, his K per nine for the last start was 15.

SPEAKER_01 56:43

Do you know who had the highest K per that's right? Good math there, Slade. Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 56:48

Be here all night, ladies and gentlemen.

SPEAKER_01 56:50

Do you know who has the highest K per nine? I think it's the highest K per nine for his career.

SPEAKER_00 56:54

I believe it's big tags.

SPEAKER_01 56:57

Is it?

SPEAKER_00 56:59

Who did you think it was?

SPEAKER_01 57:00

I thought it was maybe I'm thinking of walks per strikeout. Might be getting the Billy Wagner. Oh, the Wags.

SPEAKER_00 57:10

Yeah, Hall of Fame Billy Wagner, right? You know, you you now that you say that you may you may be right. But he's just a he only pitched one inning a game. Loser. That was what a loser.

SPEAKER_04 57:25

No fence, right?

SPEAKER_01 57:27

No, none taking. Yeah. Um, so uh Ms. Rowski's he's at the top guy. I would love to see him start the all-star game. Yep. Go up there against whoever the hell's leading off for the American League and just bam 104 right in the ribs. In the ear pole. Was it Miz hit somebody last week?

SPEAKER_00 58:01

Was it oh that's gonna leave a mark.

SPEAKER_01 58:05

Right in the ear, dude. Right in the ear of the game. I'm sure it did. It was a 90 a 96 mile an hour cutter or some shit, and he the guy took it right in the ear.

SPEAKER_00 58:19

Well, if nothing else, even if it didn't hurt him, he had to he had to go change his drawers. So no wonder he had to leave the game. Because those things were a fucking mess after that ball guy's ball coming at your head, right?

SPEAKER_04 58:34

Yeah, if I'm if I'm batting against the Miz, I'm wearing brown underwear, no doubt about it. Yeah, right. You're definitely sliding a couple times out there in the field. If he doesn't strike, he strikes me out and I still slide in the first. That's if you get on you. So you're thinking you're gonna get on base. Is that what you're saying? Well, I'm thinking only because I would swing at a pitch that was two feet in front of the plate and I'd get on by a pass ball.

SPEAKER_01 59:03

The ball's coming so hard, you probably don't even have time to get scared when it comes to your head like that. It's just it's on you.

SPEAKER_00 59:12

Like uh in the little little uh rookie of the year where you're standing on the very edge of the batter's box just trying not to get in the back corner, say oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, and Gary Bees is in the bug out saying the same thing with me, and and then the manager God knows uh Ros and Bagan. It's a great movie. Do you remember Phil Collins getting hit by the the you guys play baseball with the um Genesis drummer Phil Collins?

SPEAKER_04 59:48

Yeah, oh dude, yeah, it was badass.

SPEAKER_00 59:51

Yeah, he was bald already then, huh?

SPEAKER_04 59:53

Yeah, yeah, it was the slowest pitch in the stat track era that Phil Collins got hit by. Yeah, and the worst part about it was we were playing North Garland on a Saturday. What should we say the nickname that we called this kid?

unknown 1:00:08

I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:09

Yeah, go for it, right? Miss America, we can say whatever we want.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:13

He threw the ball when he was pitching pops, the ball had an arc to it, okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:19

And he was he was look to be Middle Eastern, let's be honest.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:24

Middle Eastern, and you know the times, you know, we early 2000s, right? We called this kid Bin Laden. Oh bin Laden. And like I said, it had an arc on it. I mean, you know how it is in a baseball dugout, Pops. We're talking, we're talking shit the whole time. Yeah, um, so uh bin Laden throws one of his mediocre fastballs, or less than mediocre fastballs, and Bill Collins in the back.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:58

No, but the best part, Pops, was it's the fifth inning, you know, and there's a 10-run run rule, right? North Carolina, who's horrible. We played the one of the weird Saturday district games. Bases were loaded, Pops. We're up nine-nothing. The ball hits Phil in the back. He just goes, you know, if you get hit in a certain spot, it's just gonna hurt. No matter how hard is he did the ass out up his back, goes, he goes, Oh, that's not good. And he fell down and covered up home plate. Carmen was pissed because we're all laughing. We had to wait for Phil to get up to move so the guy from third could score, and the umpire wouldn't call the game till Phil went and touched first base. Carmen was like, all right, you got all that out of your system? Monday, have a good weekend. Yeah, it was the ugliest 10-nothing game you've ever seen in your entire life.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:57

Slay, do you remember because it it does matter where you get hit with the pitch? Oh, yeah. I mean, it's still a baseball coming at you, right? Even if it's getting thrown lobbed at you 65 miles an hour, right? Oh, there was like I think it was fall ball one year, dude, and I got hit. A ball went behind me, kind of the same situation as your elbow did, yes. So I kind of tucked my chest in, but my elbows went back behind me, and it cut just caught me right on like the funny bone, dude. And I remember like I don't know, it was like vibrating in my hand. Oh, and we were laughing at you because we're like, You're such a wuss. Why you wouldn't be doing? But do you remember the next day?

SPEAKER_04 1:02:42

Yes, the bruise that was on there, yes, dude. That was gnarly, that was nasty, dude. Yeah, and then I remember also it might have been the same game. Yeah, and you know, kind of like Happy Gilmore has a record, he's the only guy that ever took a skate off and tried to stab someone with it. Yeah, remember Keith Brown, I think we were playing at Burkner, might have been the same game, dude. He swung full blown, swung as hard as he could at a pitch and hit him in the chest. And he started running down the purse. The umpire's like, nah, come back. You swung at that. Coaching was like, What is going on? Like, I don't even know, dude. Oh, Keith Brown.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:23

That's Keith Brown, man. Yeah, all right, good stuff. All right, let's tighten it up a little bit. Let's get let's get into some worst of the week.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:35

All right, so uh let me see. So, what have we had? So from a um from a uh regular player standpoint, man, oh man. Uh, and I believe this guy is one of the ones that they might have on the on the trading block, but Willie Adamus for your San Francisco Giants. One for 20. Oh one walk and five strikeouts, um 50 batting average, 095 OBP, 050 slug for a whopping 145 OPS. Holy crap. Uh, he would make some Rangers proud. Um and then uh, you know, another guy, uh, you know, for the for the Indians, it's a pretty important guy for them. And you know, they wound up losing, relinquishing first first place this week to the uh to the White Sox. But uh Reese Hopkins uh had a tough week in for the Guard Indians. Uh two two for 19, uh 105 batting average, 150 OBP, uh seven zero walks and seven K's. He did score one run, uh, but a uh 158 slug and a 308 OPS. So he uh as their starting first baseman did not do those guys any good as they were battling for first place. And then for the um I believe this is the second week in a row, but as the cub loser of the week, we have Nico Horner.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:15

I was gonna say, come on, Pops, you gotta throw a cub in there.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:18

Uh Nico Horner, uh three for 20, 150. So somehow this crazy bastard, his on-base percentage is lower than his batting average. I don't know what he did.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:32

I think a sack fly does that to you.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:35

Something like that. It's some kind of sacrifice, right? That's gotta be uh but uh but but three hits, a double, one only he only struck out one time. Uh but uh, you know, and this guy's a pretty had last couple of years has been a pretty pretty good average average hitter, uh, but not so much uh this year. So Nico Horner, the uh Cubs loser of the of the week.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:56

I love that they have their own segment, by the way. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:00

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:05

Our most committed listener, and he's gonna listen to that every week. And pop shits on his team every week.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:17

And then, you know, the pitcher of the week, uh the the victim of his own his own team, uh Jeffrey Springer, Jeffrey Springs of the Oakland Athletics. Two start two games started, nine innings pitched, did have eight strikeouts, but an ERA of 11, a whip of 1.89. He gave up 11 earn runs, 15 hits, walked to five home runs in that in that and nine innings.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:49

He had to be the starter yesterday in that 20 minutes.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:50

He had been the starter in one of the yep. And uh, and then another guy, a guy that um we really had liked to watch in here in Texas last year while still understanding that he's had been the worst pitcher in baseball for the the three previous years. Uh and he was uh scooped up by uh the Toronto Blue Jays. But Patrick Corbyn, two starts. He got to go whopping six and two thirds innings in those two starts. Uh he did strikeout six, an ERA of 9.45, a whip of 2.25, seven, seven earned runs, 11 hits, four walks, one home run. Uh and as we as we know, you know, he was he threw all a ton of pitches, and I'm sure that's what happened to him as he made two starts with six and two thirds innings. Yeah. So so uh Patrick Corbin is your American League loser of the week on the pitching side.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:44

All right. Thank you for that, Pops. Slay dude, how about our players and pitchers of the week?

SPEAKER_04 1:07:50

All right. So last week I did pick your on Alvarez, and so did the MLB for the player of the week. So good on us. Um, I did pick the picture of the week as the mez, and he ended up getting player of the week in the entire National League last week. But again, this week doesn't happen to me much, boys, but I agree with the MLB for the players of the week and the NL Jackson Churio. All he did was go 13 for 29, eight runs scored, five homers, 10 RBIs. So good job, Jackson, on a first place team. One of the best teams in baseball. Good to have that guy there when you have a guy like the Miz on the mound. And then a guy who hit a home run against the Rangers tonight is going to be my player of the week, and the MLB picked him as player of the week last week, too. Someone we might know by a guy named Byron Buxton. Had a great, great week. 11 for 24, six runs scored, four homers, seven RBIs. So good for him. My pitchers of the week, surprise, surprise. Let's just go ahead and take it up right now. It was one of those weird weeks, must have been an off day or two, but come on. Come on. It's the Miz, okay? The dude threw a Maddox with 15Ks, and that's all you need to know. I think we've talked enough about it. How can you not give him pitcher of the week? Because Logan Webb had uh 16 innings pitch last week, and he did great, went 2-0, but he had 14 strikeouts and 16 innings, and the Miz had 15 and 9. So we're gonna go ahead and give that to the Miz, right? Rightfully so. And then in the American League, Lats had a really good week, but he's a relief pitcher, let's be honest, right? So hard to give it to that guy. Uh Sanchez.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:32

I'd really like to see him get in the rotation.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:36

I think he's more valuable, but I mean, who knows? I don't know what we're doing, whatever. So I would love Josh, yes, for him to be freaking out there every five days. But um, man, not a lot of guys went too many innings, but we'll give it to old Drew Rasmussen from Tampa Bay. He only had one start as well, but he had 13Ks in seven innings, pretty stinking good. Got the win, no earned runs, only gave up two hits and only walked one. So that's who I got for players and pitchers of the week in the American League. Well done and National League, I guess. We could just say in the MLB, too. I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:13

Yeah, very nice. All right. Uh, I only got one Trevia question. Um, how many games behind the Cardinals are the Chicago Cubs?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:22

Okay. So I don't know after what happened tonight, let's be honest. But I'm showing three full games.

unknown 1:10:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:34

So that is correct. All right. We're in the all right. When to take your shirt off now. But the uh we we will see the Cubs blue blue blue lead. They are trailing four to three in the bottom of the ninth, but they have runners at the corners and nobody out. And they are playing the Rockies. They are playing the Rockies, but loser of the week, Nico Horner, is at the plate. Okay. So we'll see if they get him to ground into a double play and let the uh winning the tying run score, or what they do. Looks like the Rockies are gonna say to screw that, we're just gonna walk him.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:07

Yeah, three and one count.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:08

Hitting a sacrifice fly and make his OBP be lower than his batting average again. Again. I got one for y'all. Y'all would probably know who this guy is, but oh yeah, all right. I don't know who he is. Y'all won't. This happened in the 89 and 90 seasons. Who holds the record for the most consecutive stolen bases without getting caught? And again, it happened between the 89 and 90 season. Vince Coleman? How dude, how the hell do you know? I don't even know who that guy is. But yes, you're absolutely right. You don't know who Vince Coleman is? No, no, no, no, a couple of Vince Coleman.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:53

Josh, very stinking good. Yeah, he's he was a Studley base runner.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:58

Oh yeah. 50 straight stolen bases between those two seasons of that game.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:03

Okay, I didn't know that many. That is nuts. That is he was fast.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:08

And so in uh 85, when the Cardinals played the Royals in the great year. And when the Cardinals played the Royals in the World Series and they wound up losing when the uh first base umpire blew a call in on uh in game six, Vince Coleman missed the entire series because there was rain in game one, and they have either in I forget where they were at, Kansas City or St. Louis. But one of them have has uh an automated tarp. And he got run over and messed up. No, it's it messed up his knee by the tarp. So he missed the entire world world series, and you know, so uh Whitey Herzog was really, really, really mad about about that one. And then, you know, the next uh in 87 when they played in the world, the Cardinals played in the World Series again and lost to the Twins, they had they got everybody hurt. Uh in the in the and that's they I mean their entire postseason roster was gutted, and that was when you had you know there was 20 a 25-man roster, and that was it. You know, yeah. And postseason, you there was nothing you could you could do, you couldn't replace anybody. And that's now why you see you have the let the layered rosters in case somebody, it's more in case somebody gets hurt, yeah, and you can replace them than anything else. But you know, that was that was that 87 season was really one of the big reasons why Herzog was just mad. He said, I got 20 21 guys that I'm playing with. He said, I'm not it's not like I'm trying to go sign fucking Mickey Mann and put him on the roster, right? He said, I just want to bring up one of my triple A guys so I can have you know a pinch hitter.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:48

Yeah, pretty crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:51

All right, very impressed, very good, buddy.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:54

All right, thank you, thank you. All right, well, that's all I got, fellas. Y'all got anything to add?

SPEAKER_00 1:14:00

Uh no, just that my my guess for the consecutive stolen base guy was John Elarood. So I was wrong.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:10

That was a good guess, though. Well, he was the only guy that wore a plastic helmet while he played, so you were close.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:16

Right. All right. Thank y'all for joining us for another episode. We appreciate you tuning in. Uh, if you like what we're doing, check us out on Instagram, on X, on Facebook. If you like what we're doing, support the show. Give us a like, give us a subscription, um, and uh leave us a comment uh for the Slay dude, Justin Slay, Wendell Pops Patterson. I'm Josh Patterson. Thank y'all, and we will talk to you again next week.