The WakeUp Protocol
Something inside of you knows… there’s more. You’re right!
The WakeUp Protocol is a podcast for sensitive, curious souls who know there’s more to life than what we’ve been taught.
Hosted by Nadja Haldimann, this is a space for big questions, deep remembering, and honest conversations about what it means to come back to your true self, beneath the conditioning, beyond the mask, outside the matrix.
Each week, you’ll hear from guests who are in it too, navigating their own awakenings with courage and grace. We talk about grief, near-death experiences, psychedelics, illness as initiation, visions, and the mysteries that science hasn’t yet caught up with, but our bodies and hearts already know to be true.
This is a space for remembering and fierce truths. For sovereignty, soul, and the kind of conversations that leave you changed.
If you’re waking up... welcome home.
The WakeUp Protocol
027 ~ Mónica Guzmán ~ Reclaiming Curiosity: Awakening Through Fearless Conversation & Shared Humanity
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Can curiosity be a spiritual practice? In a time of deep political and digital division, Mónica Guzmán argues that the "root of all evil is distance between people". In this episode, we explore how to bridge that distance by dropping our masks, sitting with our discomfort, and reclaiming the "muscle" of curiosity.
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About Our Guest: Mónica Guzmán
Mónica Guzmán is the author of I Never Thought of it That Way, the founder of Reclaim Curiosity, and a bridge-builder at Braver Angels. A Mexican immigrant and a liberal daughter of conservative parents, Mónica has dedicated her career to understanding how we can have "fearlessly curious conversations".
For Mónica, awakening isn't just an intellectual shift; it’s a "slow dawning" of light. It involves looking inward to "know your own code" and learning to see others—even those we deeply disagree with—as bottomless mysteries rather than enemies to be "othered".
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In This Episode, We Explore
🧩 The SOS Framework: Understanding the natural human dynamics of Sorting, Othering, and Siloing that keep us divided.
🎭 The Mask vs. The Soul: Why we start wearing "masks" around age seven and how "taking the mask off" invites others into curiosity.
🧠 Curiosity as a Muscle: Moving past the idea that curiosity is a trait—it is a practice that requires courage.
🤖 Technology as a Wedge: How AI and social media drive distance and why AI is currently "incapable of courage".
🧘 Spiritual "Inward Curiosity": Mónica’s practice of visualizing negative emotions, like impatience, as children needing a hug.
🌍 The Global Commonality: What Mónica learned from the silence of Quaker meetings and the values of Buddhism in Thailand.
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Connect with Mónica
🌿 Website: moniguzman.com
🌿 Book: I Never Thought of it That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times
🌿 Instagram: @moniguzman
Buy it on: Bookshop.com / Amazon
🌿 Podcast: A Braver Way
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