How I AI
How I AI showcases the people shaping the future with artificial intelligence. Host Brooke Gramer spotlights founders, innovators, and creatives who share not just the tools they use, but the transformations they’ve experienced. Human-centered storytelling meets visionary insights on business, culture, and the future of innovation.
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How a Metaverse Visionary Uses AI to Build Digital Avatars That Scale Creative Brands
This week on “How I AI” I’m joined by Natalia Tkacheva, AKA Meta Muse, an AI artist, FemTech founder, and the creative force behind one of the most visionary avatar platforms being built today.
Based between Bali and Dubai, Natalia is helping shape the next era of identity, content, and automation with AI-powered digital avatars and agents that create, post, and even sell on your behalf 24/7.
From her Soviet manufacturing roots to vibe coding her business with her voice, this episode dives deep into what it really means to build the future through consciousness, creativity, and scalable automation.
If you’ve ever dreamed of scaling your personal brand without being on camera, launching a product without a full team, or turning your digital essence into a media presence.. this one will expand your entire perspective.
🎧 Tune in now to explore a future where your avatar can build, post, sell, and even teach without you lifting a finger.
🔥 Topics We Cover:
- How Natalia’s creating a one-stop platform to build and launch an AI avatar-led brand
- What it means to vibe code and build tech using your voice and intention
- Why she believes cloning consciousness is the next frontier of digital legacy
- How her avatar agency helps creators automate content, marketing, and monetization
- The philosophy behind “delay your impermanence” and live infinitely through tech
- Her bold predictions for multi-metaverses and the future of FemTech + AI
🧰 Tools Mentioned in This Episode:
AI Creation & Content Tools:
Midjourney, ChatGPT, Telegram bots, Pinterest (for vision boarding), Gabit Ring (biometric tracking)
Automation & Avatars:
Custom AI agents, voice-based vibe coding systems, Natalia’s proprietary avatar platform
📲 Connect with Natalia (Meta Muse):
Instagram: nataly_tkacheva
Stay tuned—her full international AI avatar platform is launching soon.
Other Concepts Mentioned:
DigitalDNA Labs (legacy & grief AI)
Natalia’s Telegram Neuro photo AI Avatar Bot
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Brooke:Stay tuned to learn more at the end of this episode, or check the show notes for my exclusive invite link.. Hi everyone. Today I share this space with Meta Muse. She's the largest land owner in the Metaverse. She's a pioneer in the Fem Tech AI space, and not only a tech founder and artist, but someone who's literally building the future. She's building a new kind of agency and platform that combines digital avatars, AI agents, and content creation tools. All designed to help entrepreneurs scale their presence online, automate their business, and express their creativity through technology. We talk about building media avatars that speak for you, creating AI agents that run full marketing departments, and what it means to vibe code with your voice to manifest an AI built business. Natalia brings a unique blend of spiritual awareness and technical ambition, and she's deeply passionate about women reclaiming their freedom through automation. This episode wraps up my series of interviews with the incredible speakers from The Collective's, AI Hacker House and Mastermind in Bali this summer. So if you haven't listened to any of the previous episodes where I interviewed each of the speakers, don't miss out on them. Today's episode is compact, so give yourself a moment to drop in. Alright, let's dive in. Hello everyone. Welcome to another episode of How I AI I'm your host, Brooke Gramer. Today I have a very special guest. I'm here in Bali, Indonesia, and I had the opportunity to interview Natalia Meta Muse. She's a developer and a metaverse architect. Natalia, thank you so much for being here and welcome.
Natalia:Yeah, thank you very much. Hi everyone. I'm really happy to be here. In amazing Bali to speak about technologies.
Brooke:I'd love to just open the floor. We'd love to hear more about you. You have such a vast background and experience. Can you share more about yourself?
Natalia:Sure, sure. I can. That's why I'm here. So I've been in technologies like since 2010, I think. Mm-hmm. So more than 13 years I started my own company when I was like really young.'Cause yeah, I wanted to save this world from routine.'cause I'm also very creative. And you know, before the technologies it was a lot of, paper routine in the businesses. And so when I just understood that we can do a lot of things with the help of these tools, I immediately started to develop solutions like online aggregators, online services for businesses, like uniting clients with production, let's say. Then I bought my own Soviet Union manufacturer. Wow. Titanium manufacturer. Yeah. And uh, totally renew it. It was. 50 years old. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Practically bankrupt manufacturer. And so with the help of community, with the help of technologies we really made it like number one on the market in half a year.
Brooke:That's incredible. Yeah. Because
Natalia:we developed online web service that connected custom doctors to our manufacturer, they could arrange different and order different things straight directly through online services, delivery, logistics, marketing. So I really love this stuff because it gave me opportunity more than six years to just to travel the world to have passive income. And it worked like algorithm. 24/7 without me. So this is my greatest talent, to use technology. To save your time for life. Yes. To be more creative, to make songs, to travel all over the world. So business should be your foundation and support you in your life journey. Yes. Not be the slave of your business. So this is my main let's say message to this world. Delegate all the routines mm-hmm. To technology and just create and be free.
Brooke:You had such a young entrepreneurial experience and got to really hone that aspect of your life early on and reach that level of self actualization and attaining the next step up. Such a beautiful message to share because I think AI brings us this amazing benefit to be able to lean more into our passions and purpose and creative spirit.
Natalia:That's why I really recognized this technology and I saw it very early. Maybe three, four years ago. Because I am in already. Yeah. I'm inside the developer space and when we saw this magic. We were like, oh my God. This world will change forever. We were in touch with Midjourney when it just appeared, okay. It was creating like one piece of art, eight minutes. I think we were waiting with six fingers. Do you remember this? I remember the six fingers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And after like half a year it started to deliver amazing things. So we started to use AI in our business and Web3 business, in blockchain immediately. And one of the company that I was like, muse and a partner, the founder, just with the help of MidJourney and ChatGPT with the help of two tools launch the product. Now it's two and a half million dollars. Wow. And he produced, 500,000 pieces of art by himself with the help of AI. That's cool. And before it was like practically, impossible. It was like millions of dollars of investments. So then he calculated in two years that he saved, uh. 10,000 hrs employers time. Wow. Yeah. With the help of two tools. Yeah. So we discovered it really early. Started to implement it like immediately. And now we have a lot of practical results and in different companies that we implemented on the early stage. This became the leaders of the market. The leaders. Wow. So this is the time.
Brooke:So midjourney and ChatGPT were your gateway into using AI, can you share a little bit more about the systems and operations that got you into the space and more about what you use now to create all the amazing things that you're producing.
Natalia:Okay. For me as a woman, as an artist because, yeah. I love art. I love to create digital art. I also had my NFT collections. So my first like bitcoin, the total amount of money of Bitcoin. I earned by launching my NFT collection. Art is a Woman. Wow. So I sold like, it's 22,000 dollars. It was just a piece of digital art. And so for me it was like. Yeah. I can create art, monetize art. And uh, uh, do some amazing visuals because I am woman, yes. And for me, I always try to produce something and develop something in technologies that makes this world more beautiful. Mm. I love that. I love muses my name is Metamuse. I have the community of Muses. I love all this goddess style. And now we are creating our own platform where you can create your avatar. And to manifest your big dreams when you can project your future, when you can see your, yourself in different realities. So usually we do visual boards. But take photos from Pinterest, and now you can create your own avatar, save it in memory. Like a platform, like body scan of you. Yes. And then you can create any videos or photos, any realities with your own avatar, like a main hero. Mm-hmm. So it's like a kind of Marvel we're creating now, or Disney? Yes. Where you can be the main actors, the main hero in social media through your digital avatars, yeah.
Brooke:Yeah. We did such a cool workshop together at the Mastermind. Yeah. Where you brought us through this whole process. We used Telegram. We used Chat GPT, and we were able to make our own digital avatars. And it was really cool to see that come into place. It just took a bit of back and forth prompting and fine tuning and you guided us all And it was really fun to see everybody's AI avatar. Can you share more about creating that on Telegram and also expand on the influencer space and the avatar space? Because I think you also work with an agency for avatars as well, is that correct?
Natalia:Actually we are now agency. If you ask me what tools is better to use. Mm-hmm. We are building our platform, so you need just to have one tool, our platform. That's great. And behind this platform, we have more than 30 AI tools and solutions That's great. So for what we are doing to make life more easy, mm-hmm. Because even when we started to educate people or women how to create a brand avatar, visuals and so on. We understood that it's like more than 20 platforms. And every platform has its own subscription. Yes. So you need to pay like$500 a month. So that's why we like united all solutions that you need to produce content in our one tool, the subscription is like$10 a month and you can use everything that you need. We are creating our own solutions and now we are becoming an agency too. Mm-hmm. For creation, done for you, virtual influencers that can run your blog, that can produce content 24/7. Wow. Uh, That can run your social media, virtual influencers that can uh, sell your product. Virtual influencers for brands. Wow. So, This is my new passion. I don't think it's new, like maybe half a year in AI. It's a lot. It's like, 10 years before, in this sphere. So this is our focus right now because you can learn how to do all of this, but it'll take you a lot of time. Yeah. And now any person or brand can come to us and say, okay, I want to be famous. I want to have not just my digital avatar, I want to make it like a media person. Mm-hmm. I want to promote my brand through my avatar. I don't want to be in camera. Yeah. With my face, I want to live my life. Yes. And so we like clone people. Yeah. Then we install a consciousness in inside the brains. We have this solution to Wow. And make avatar with a conscious mind.
Brooke:Wow. I love having the opportunity to interview creators. Because typically I ask, what's your tech stack? What are you using? But then when I speak to people that are really building, it's more so, oh, I'm building my own tools, my own platforms. Mm-hmm. And that's really the next level phase. I know a lot of people are in that space right now where they're just building and there's gonna be really amazing things coming out in the next couple years. I'm excited to see what comes of your solutions in your products, and will definitely subscribe. It's very affordable,$10 a month, and I love that you have all of the answers in one space because it can get quite expensive when you're having to subscribe to so many different things to have one end result in product.
Natalia:Yeah. Because about AI, it's a tool to save your time mm-hmm. for life. And it's hundreds, thousands of tools coming every day. Yes. And so you will lose your time of life by trying to analyze everything. So you don't need to think much. Yeah. You just have one tool that answers all your questions.
Brooke:That's perfect. You spoke a lot about your passion for supporting women in this space, and we're super aligned in that way. It's never been a more empowering time as a woman to really take control of our dreams and our creativity and what it is that we feel our mission and purpose is in this lifetime. Can you share more about FemTech and everything you're doing in this space?
Natalia:Yeah. FemTech is my favorite world now. Yes. Yeah. It's technologies for female and we are actually building it with a female team mostly. Mm-hmm. On the front face. But of course we have like amazing developers. Of course you need to educate yourself by how to build all these agents and platforms. Now we are building our platform, not through developers, but we have a shift now, big shift in humanity. Yes. What we're doing, because now each member of our team create their own AI agent, AI department, and now we are scaling with the help of AI agents, so we educate and update and upgrade the brain of each and every member. Me to in this process. And this is like a crazy shift in the history of humanity. Yes. It's crazy. So even now, our platform is building with the voice and with the help of AI agent, they're building platform with the code. With no human.
Brooke:So they're vibe coding, via voice?
Natalia:Yes. Vibe coding via voice. I think 99% of the world, don't understand what's going on, so vibe coding, it's like, you can sit, Look on the sunset, vibe with your AI agent and say, okay, build me a platform. Build me let's say unicorn company. That will bring me in two years these results. Mm-hmm. Organize all the platform, all the marketing campaign, everything create for me. And this is my bank account and open the company for me. And that's it. And your AI agents will do all this work for you you need just to tell them what results you really want to achieve. And what impact you really want to create this world. So actually you need to build something and to create some product that humanity needs from you right now. Mm-hmm. So this is a solution when one creator can run, one founder, let's say, yes, can run like a multi-billion dollars company. With help of one laptop. So we're going to this stage. Just with one laptop with our army of AI agents. My mind shifted so much. I understood like, okay, it's so easy. Everybody who can do this will do this if it's already real? But then I understood the reality of human brain and human narrow system. That to go to this new level. You need completely to reeducate your mindset and you need to learn how to use this tool. It's very stressful every day that I'm learning, I see all these codes, you need to connect a lot of tools. We're doing this with our mentor, with IT, very high level developers. So even for me, I'm really open for all new technologies. I can educate myself really very fast. But it's really hard to educate your brain. You need to have true passion to go through this, to became like programmer of the reality. Actually it's a tool where you can learn how you can manifest your reality. Yes. Even like in Bible at the beginning it was word, it was prompt, mm-hmm. And what you will say you will create in this world, and this is a fucking big responsibility.
Brooke:Wow. Yeah. I think you touched on such important points about we're having to completely rewire the way that we think and the way that we create and learning how to speak to AI, how to very clearly and effectively be able to communicate your goals.
Natalia:That's true. Even let's say like yesterday. Mm-hmm. I already did my voice agent. So like, please install me something on my computer. Please build me something. And it started to code something and I see the results. Okay. And I was like, okay. And my mentor, he teach me how to communicate with the AI agents. This is a sign, this would be one of the biggest, direction in education. How to prompt your agent. Yeah. How to communicate with your agent.
Brooke:Yeah.
Natalia:Because I told him to do something he didn't understand and he started to do completely another thing. Ah. So you need to think twice. Yes.'cause it starts immediately to do what you asked. It's like universe, just think what you ask.
Brooke:Oh, yes,
Natalia:yes, yes. And this, I think how we can be more, wise, be more specific. Specific by actually. Be more exact in what you really want. Mm. Because it happens like in seconds. And. If something, let's say, let's project that you can say some bullshit to your agent and you have a billion dollar company already and your department start to crash Yeah. So everything can collapse like in two minutes too. So this is a stage where we need to really protect our thoughts. And that's why I think I'm analyzing the space. Mm-hmm. Who are already in, who are like using this vibe coding, cutting edge technologies in AI. What I see, that this company this understanding and implementing of these technologies can come only to special type of mindset, let's say. Mm-hmm. Very open mindset. Mm-hmm. Very spiritual mindset. Mm-hmm. Our developers, they're very spiritual. They do yoga, they are meditating. Yeah. They have straight direct channel to the space. That's beautiful. So they are very spiritual. They're mm-hmm very open-hearted. They're unprogrammed. They're like a people of New World, who did a lot of work with themselves mm-hmm. To become this endless consciousness because this information can go inside their head. If you have block mind, if you have system mind. Mm-hmm. We'll never understand this. So this is like a straight direct connection, consciousness, spirituality. Mm-hmm. Body, bio hackers, and the new technologies.
Brooke:It makes sense that you have to have already done a lot of the work around deconditioning from systems and processes that you grew up with on this input creates this output. Yeah, because it's completely rewriting that's true. The game. That's true. Yeah. I would love to unpack a bit more because I love hearing about how people work with agents, and it sounds like you already have a lot in your business. Could you maybe give one example, because it seems like you create them all in house and have an amazing team of developers. Could you give an example of what is one agent that has saved you a bunch of time and one that you use frequently and explain that process. Okay.
Natalia:I started to educate myself how to use agent. Mm-hmm. The first time when I received my first agent to build my department of producer, and we just installed a lot of tools. I have this ring that scan my measurements. It was a lot of stress for me. It's a Gabit ring. I'm like, I'm building my agents. Oh my God, it's so stressful. Because before to be honest, as a visionary, as a woman, I try to build everything with the help of my developers. Mm-hmm. I didn't use my hands to build this, but now I can use my voice. It's another level. So with my voice, what is the difference if I say this task to my developer., And he will say this task to his agent. We try not to use people. No money can be more valuable than freedom and your time of love, yeah. In time of when you can really enjoy this world. Mm-hmm. I'm reeducating myself not to use humans and just to tell this task to my agent. Okay? And so for me, it's like, oh my God, I need to trust technology. I need to control technology, and I need avatar, to connect with technology. So this is my steps.
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Natalia:Yeah. Yeah. So when I understood that we can have all the agents, let's say to post in social media mm-hmm. To write your email, mm-hmm. Agent assistant, we have agents actually inside our team, even in chat. We have agent that control the timelines and control our schedule, do reminders, so we say please remind us to do this, this, and this.
Brooke:They all have different names. Yeah,
Natalia:yeah. Sure. It's your employer, right? It's your employer. It's yeah. You have a name of it. I see now how amazing they work agents that moderate big communities. It's really like, big big solution for everybody who have strong and big communities. Yes.'cause usually in the chat, you need to respond to reply to different questions, about organizing, about all of this. But when you have your agent in chat, it can control and guide people. That's awesome. With your knowledge I have agent marketing and the agent of unpackaging your product or your mission in this world. Because before I used to do a lot of mentoring sessions with the people just to understand the big purpose in life. Let's say, person can come to me and say, I have a lot of life experience. Mm-hmm. I have this education, this education, and millions of talents. That now he doesn't know what to do with this, and people come to me to ask for a roadmap, what they can do with the help of all this knowledge, inner resources and external resources to go to AI to build something with AI, and before it took me like three days to unpackage all of this. Wow. Now I build my AI agent that do everything without me, that's incredible. And uh, deliver the better results and better roadmap, like 1000 time better than I can do personally because it's not only my knowledge, it's knowledge of all my mentors. I educate my agent with the books that I read already. I educate with some articles, with some knowledge, with some scientific proof mm-hmm. With some marketing solutions that I give to this person to understand their inner mission. Mm-hmm. And to produce this mission with the help of technologists in the forums of product, what is the best product for you to create in this world. And you have numerology, astrology, yes. And all the stuff. I think more than 100 people already passed through my agent, so you need to delegate this. Uh, Also like the first thing that I saved my time was creating my avatar mentor that could speak like real me mm-hmm. in real time and interact with people in the Zooms, or on my websites, when people started to ask me Natalie, please explain us how to use AI, how to use this, how to use this I have questions because I'm also a blogger and influencer when I discover some new technology, I share about this experience in my social media. Mm-hmm. And then I receive a ton of questions, how the people can use it. Of course. And I understood like, okay. Now I need to steal my personal time of life. Mm-hmm. By explaining to the people how they can use it. It's again, against of my mission, be free and create, so I tried to find and implement immediately the solution that can clone me.'Cause I have limited capacity of my time in this world. I try to do clones, to do avatars. Mm-hmm. To do everything so people, can communicate, my agent with your agent. While we are sleeping, our avatars can make podcasts, let's say it's already real. So again, what we are doing, we are building one solution, that will help people to come to open our platform and say, okay, I want to create my avatar and launch a business and my product I want to produce content 24/7. This is my knowledge base and I want to go to Instagram, YouTube, and TikTok with my avatar and with my product. Can you please make me a system that can produce content, make me media, and sell my product 24/7. Thank you. Bye, this is a payment link. Wow. Yeah. So we are building this platform.
Brooke:That's incredible. And one thing I wanna dig into, because it sounds like you've made a ton of agents, a lot of clones. Yeah. Yeah, you've done a lot of amazing work for other people and you've figured out how to have that live on and replicate it. Is this what you mean by adding your consciousness to AI? I wanna unpack that because that's very sci-fi Is that what you mean by consciousness?
Natalia:It's exactly what I mean. It's about this scientific prognosis. Mm-hmm. About infinity life in your digital Yes. Body. This is what I mean. Yeah. And what we were discussing with my friend she's biohacker. What it is bio hacking? It's about longevity. It's about people now they want to live as much long as they can. Mm-hmm. And this is about also an inner guiding of soul to extend life and experience in healthy body. It's about also, inner wish to live forever because our soul is unlimited, just our body is limited. So I think what we are doing now as a humanity. We are trying to delay our, impermanence. Yes. Yes. To live longer. And at the same time, with the help of technologies, we try to create a new model that can save our consciousness for our next generations. And to live infinity in our digital body. So this is what we are doing, mm-hmm. when we are copying we have like a special system that can copy your consciousness as much as it's possible. Yeah. We have a Questionary 300 questions about your psycho system about your experiences like mm-hmm. Small, small, small, small details, just to create your avatar. Just to pack your consciousness, inside the avatar. But we are not doing is just with your one consciousness.'cause we have a form where you can upload books, upload knowledge base, or different people connect with this cloud. And we can choose what knowledge to add, what information to add in your consciousness.
Brooke:Yes. I recently went to a conference in Miami called Emerge, and it was a lot of technology companies and I might get the name wrong. I think it was called something like DNA Labs. Mm-hmm. I could be confusing it, but they also had this whole legacy package. Yeah. Where you could someone who's grieving, someone who passed, have this whole digital upload of them and be able to still speak to them. And it's so fascinating when sci-fi movies start to really come
Natalia:Yeah. To,
Brooke:to fruition. I,
Natalia:I think like in, even in two years, it would be like, okay.
Brooke:Yeah.
Natalia:Yeah.
Brooke:So fascinating. So one of my favorite questions to ask, and this might even be hard for you because you already have been producing and creating amazing things and have a lot of stuff coming out this year and next, but what's next for you? Or if you could wave a magic wand and create something that's not there yet, and this might actually be easy for you because you create in the metaverse every day. Mm-hmm. And I believe are like mm-hmm. The biggest owner of land in that space. What could you create with AI that isn't there yet? Like what are you okay dreaming up right now?
Natalia:Actually, like, I'm not a dreamer. I really am see the future. Mm-hmm. And this is like one of my main problem too, because I see the future and when I speak to people, like what is coming? They don't believe, they think I'm crazy, but it's always there. As you told that, yeah I have a lot of land in Metaverse. We have like cities in Metaverse too. And the biggest challenge was when we started to create cities in Metaverse mm-hmm. Was like, oh my god. I have a lot of job to do in my real world. Yeah. Then I have a land in Metaverses and my avatars and everything that I need to build in virtual world. When you wear AR glasses mm-hmm. You can be any place, podcast studio, and the Space Temple, in the flying temple. You can meet in the Metaverse you will be in Miami. Mm-hmm. I will be like in Dubai. And we can wear our glasses at home, on our kitchen and communicate with each other or even make a podcast It's amazing. Yeah.
Brooke:Yeah.
Natalia:So I don't need to waste so much time to fly to speak to you. This is a solution. But to build in Metaverse, it's like it was building in real world, you need to find a developers you need to spend a lot of time there. And it was kinda very hard, because at that moment, four years ago there was not so much traffic inside, we were just building in the desert, and at the same time we had our real life. And then you have some kind of meeting and gathering in Metaverse. You need to go to choose your avatar and spend your physical time in Metaverse too. So what is happening right now, we can do our AI agents, we can educate clone our knowledge, then our agents can already operate like us, do some tasks. So let's say three, five years, right? What is happening? Metaverse is still there but it's still not with AI. It's still, if you need to go to Metaverse, you need to be personally, you as avatar, connect with your avatar and go inside Okay. The metaverse with your real physical body. And spend your real physical time. So what is happening right now? Yeah. We are educating our consciousness. Mm-hmm. Our clone information ai brain, copy. So we are educating our consciousness, then this consciousness can go, let's say, through my platform mm-hmm. Through our platform to social media and live without you. And add without you, and sell without you, and consult without you in the form and the shape of your digital avatar. Wow. In social media. Yeah. It can go, it'll work. It's already there. Yes. But the next level is metaverse.
Brooke:Metaverse. It's
Natalia:waiting when I don't need to go with my physical body. Yes. I could send my consciousness mm-hmm. Inside my avatar, and I can send my consciousness not in one metaverse in multi, multi, multi multiverses. So our avatars, our consciousness, can in one metaverse, do podcast and stream it to the world. Wow. In another metaverse, business metaverse, they can create partnerships and create their own unicorns. In another metaverse, they can do some Academy for Women and share the knowledge our avatars and also create education system, so we are going to the level of multi, not metaverse. Multi metaverses with AI consciousness where millions copies of you can live and play your own game with your own role.
Brooke:Yes.
Natalia:It's kind of close what we are having right now in this game life and this is already existing and operating because we can, with the help of our avatars mm-hmm. Live different lives.
Brooke:That's a lot to unpack. It seems like a lot of different options to be creating ripple effects and impacts and to scale ourselves and our skills and our mission and our purpose. So I'll have to think more on that. And thank you for sharing a lot more about the Metaverse. It's my first opportunity to really speak more to someone about it. I do want to. Open the floor for closing remarks and anything that you wanna leave listeners with. Keeping in mind my audience for the most part, are people new to the AI space. Maybe hearing a lot of things that you're sharing here for the first time. Any words of encouragement or final remarks that you want to share?
Natalia:Don't afraid of the of the technologies. Mm-hmm. Especially I'm saying this to women because for some women it is very scary. Mm-hmm. Because there are a lot of like versions of the future. And some versions are really unbeautiful. Zombie people, fat people with wear glasses lost in the digital world. it can be your future if you will project this future and if you will go with not right guides. We are creating the future right now. And the only thing that we can live an amazing and beautiful future Mm-hmm and our kids and next generation will live in a beautiful and amazing future is if we will create it right now with our intentions, with our projects that will bring value, that will bring freedom, that will bring beauty. So this is big responsibilities for women too, because it's very man demanded space. Yes, very man demanded. And if we will see it like, okay, I'm just will cook on my kitchen and I will not involve to this process right now. Yeah. Where your kids will live. Maybe not in a beautiful future So it's our impossibility to create a space. To form, to shape the space, to execute the space where your next generations will live together.
Brooke:Mm-hmm.
Natalia:The future is not where we are going. The future is what we are building right now.
Brooke:The future is what we are building. Yeah. I love that. Thank you so much. Natalia. How can listeners reach out to you and connect with you? Where can they find more information about you?
Natalia:My best contact form is Instagram because I can share a lot. My Instagram now it's mostly in Russian, but yeah I think the 1st of September I will open my first AI Metam use Instagram that will be probably 99% operating with the help of our AI agents. Cool. Yeah, so it'll be international Instagram Metamuse where my avatar will share all the best news all the best platforms, all the best solutions, like Oracle of the future, and guide you through this ocean of new solutions and AI hacks and bio hacking solutions and so on. Great. In the most peaceful way to manifest the future together.
Brooke:Wonderful. I'll be sure to link that out in the show notes when it's available and I can't wait to tune in. So thank you so much for your time. Thank you. I appreciate you so much.
Natalia:Thank you very much. Yeah, it was like really deep. I didn't expect, yeah. Very deep. Yeah. This is because of your host always organize and uh, hold the space.
Brooke:Thank you. Thank you so much. I appreciate that.
Natalia:Yeah. And let's manifest the future together.
Brooke:Let's manifest the future together. Wow, I hope today's episode opened your mind to what's possible with AI. Do you have a cool use case on how you're using AI and wanna share it? DM me. I'd love to hear more and feature you on my next podcast. Until next time, here's to working smarter, not harder. See you on the next episode of How I AI. This episode was made possible in partnership with the Collective AI, a community designed to help entrepreneurs, creators, and professionals seamlessly integrate AI into their workflows. One of the biggest game changers in my own AI journey was joining this space. It's where I learned, connected and truly enhanced my understanding of what's possible with ai. And the best part, they offer multiple membership levels to meet you where you are. Whether you want to DIY, your AI learning or work with a personalized AI consultant for your business, The Collective has you covered. Learn more and sign up using my exclusive link in the show notes.
