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How AI is Transforming Biohacking (Live from Biohackers World Miami)

• Brooke Gramer • Season 1 • Episode 40

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In this episode of How I AI, I’m live from Biohackers World Miami, where I interview two health tech advocates working in the intersection of AI, performance, and personalized wellness.

Biohackers World is a two-day conference and expo bringing together longevity experts, innovative technologies, and a community exploring the future of health, wellness, and human optimization.

First, I sit down with David Korsunsky, founder of Heads Up Health, a platform that unifies fragmented health data from wearables, labs, and diagnostics into one clear dashboard so doctors and individuals can make more proactive, personalized decisions.

Then, I’m joined by Bill Hughan, Director of Strength Training at OxeFit, an AI-powered resistance training platform that uses onboarding insights and real-time progress tracking to deliver personalized strength, balance, and mobility programming.

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  • Why most health tracking fails when your data is fragmented across apps and portals
  • How AI can help translate wearables, labs, and diagnostics into clearer action
  • What “personalized care” looks like when a doctor can see your full picture, not just one snapshot
  • How AI-powered strength training can adapt programs based on your goals, history, and progress
  • The difference between data collection and actual behavior change

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David:

So these were otherwise very disjointed data sets that had never been analyzed together. Yeah, I uploaded all the PDFs into chat GPT, and then was overlaying that as it did the data analysis and helping me come up with these hypotheses on, quite honestly some weak spots that I knew I had but was not paying attention to. It put them right in front of my face and gave me a program to start working on them, and it gave me a way to measure if the improvements are happening or not.

Brooke:

Welcome to How I AI the podcast featuring real people, real stories, and real AI in action. I'm Brooke Gramer, your host and guide on this journey into the real world impact of artificial intelligence. For over 15 years, I've worked in creative marketing events and business strategy, wearing all the hats. I know the struggle of trying to scale and manage all things without burning out, but here's the game changer, AI. This isn't just a podcast. How I AI is a community, a space where curious minds like you come together, share ideas, and I'll also bring you exclusive discounts, and insider resources, because AI isn't just a trend, it's a shift, and the sooner we embrace it, the more freedom, creativity, and opportunities will unlock. Have you just started exploring AI and feel a bit overwhelmed? Don't worry, I've got you. Jump on a quick start audit call with me so you can walk away with a clear and personalized plan to move forward with more confidence and ease. Join my community of AI adopters like yourself. Plus, grab my free resources, including the AI Get Started Guide. Or try my How I AI companion GPT. It pulls insights from my guest interviews along with global reports, so you can stay ahead of the curve. Follow the link in the description below to get started. Health tech is on the rise. Wearables are continuing to grow in popularity, but have you ever looked at your health data and thought, cool, what does all of this actually mean? This is exactly where AI starts getting interesting in the biohacking world. It serves as the translator, the connector, the thing that can actually help you see patterns, make decisions, and personalize your next move. In today's episode, we're exploring the intersection of AI and biohacking through two conversations I had during the 2025 Biohackers World Expo. It's a two day conference where longevity experts, founders and health tech companies come together to share the newest tools and research in wellness and performance. In my first interview, I sit down with David, the founder of Heads Up Health. It's a platform that unifies all of our health data from wearables, labs, and diagnostics into one clear dashboard so doctors and individuals can take a more personalized, proactive approach to care. Then I'm joined by Bill Hughan. He's the director of strength training at OxeFit, an AI powered resistance training platform that delivers personalized workouts, real time tracking, and adaptive programs. If you're a founder, high performer, health coach, clinician, or someone just trying to feel better while living in the modern world, this episode is for you. Plus I've got a couple special listener discounts and offers linked in the show notes for this one including 30% off your tickets to Biohackers World Los Angeles, happening in March of 2026. And if you haven't noticed, I love attending conferences, listening in on panels and moderating my own here in Miami. If you ever want event coverage, panel curation support, or a moderator, don't hesitate to reach out. Alright, let's dive into today's episode. alright, David. Yes. We are here at the Biohackers World Conference. Uhhuh in Miami, Florida.

Expo hall:

Mm-hmm.

Brooke:

It's currently November 1st, 2025. What an amazing year in advancement of technology and ai. Yeah. I am really excited to be here and to talk to you how did you start getting into the space of ai? Bring me to your origin story. Yeah.

David:

Well I have been building inside this world we call biohacking for about 10 years. Mm-hmm. And, the thesis of my company has always been how can we measure our health and figure out. What's working and what's not.

Expo hall:

Mm-hmm.

David:

So for 10 years I've been building a software program that pulled in all my data, all my labs, all my body composition scans, all my Oura data, my genetics, my microbiome. So think of it like one central space where all this data comes in and it can be analyzed. So that's what we've been working on for the better part of the 10 years. Okay, within the last 12 months, we now can put conversational AI on top of that data, and that's actually the biggest unlock we've ever built so far. So we've got all the data flowing in now because when you think about a large language model, it's trained on all of the world's data, all of the biohacking data, but it doesn't have your data. Right, so that's just not part of its training set. Your data is in patient portals and PDF files and wearables and all these other places. So our system can help you bring it all together. We have traditional ways to look at the data. Dashboards and graphs and reports. That's what we've been building. But now you can put a large language model on top of the data and that can help you have a conversational experience and help you analyze everything synergistically. It's incredible.

Brooke:

So bring me back to what it is that your product does. What solution are you solving?

David:

Data fragmentation and efficacy. So I've seen five different doctors over the last 20 years. They've all got a sliver of my blood work. Mm-hmm. I do metabolic breath scans, I do DEXA scans, I do InBody, I've done the genetic tests. So all that information is siloed.

Expo hall:

Right?

David:

So step one is how do you get it into one system? That that's what our company does. And then once you have it into one system, you can look at your health holistically. So that's what we've been focusing on, is getting this mess of data together. And then here we're at Biohackers World. There's 50 different companies that offer products to improve your health. And if you use said product, did it have a positive effect on your data or not? It's basically an experimentation platform,

Brooke:

right?

David:

So that's what we've built. It's a software program to track outcomes.

Brooke:

So it's high level tracking optimization. Yep. And also record keeping. Yep. So how is your data managed and privately stored?

David:

It's different in the world of AI now, of course, but pre ai we would put it into a database and that database is encrypted and it's secure, and it's in compliance with HIPPA, the privacy rules in the United States, and also with what's called SOC one and SOC two, those are even more stringent security requirements. When you take your personal health data and you put it into a large language model, that's a different story, and so you want to make sure you use the tools and check how your data is managed. If you're using the free versions of. Yes. Chat, GPT and Gemini and Claude. And you put your health data in there, all bets are off. And then your data is now part of their training set in perpetuity, and it's the hotel California. Once it's in there, it's never coming out and. When you go into the paid version of these products, they will give you a zero training agreement so you can safely use it and your data's encrypted and not use it for training the models. And then if you're a clinic owner, we work with a lot of clinic owners. We want to make sure you can put your patient data into an LLM and not get sued. Or not be liable if there's a breach, for example. So the considerations are a little different for individuals versus clinic owners, but what we do is we bring HIPAA compliant AI to the table so you can put all of your data into a large language model. And it has the same encryption and security and compliance that your doctor has.

Brooke:

Wow. That's fantastic.

David:

Yeah.

Brooke:

Would you be able to share a case study of a client or someone that had tremendous results or benefits from using your program?

David:

Sure. So let me think of a good example here. I guess I'll just use myself.

Brooke:

That's a always a good story.'cause the point of this podcast is really to amplify you and your story as a founder, entrepreneur, and integrating ai.

David:

I guess just speaking personally. Mm-hmm. One of the first observations. When I started looking closer at my sleep data, was actually was getting a lot less sleep than I thought I was, and so when I actually saw the numbers, it led to significant behavior change. On my part. So I started to see just how looking at some simple numbers could change my behavior. That was the first piece where I've also seen a huge change is measuring my blood sugar. Ah, I started with a regular glucometer and then I started using a continuous glucose monitor.

Expo hall:

Yes.

David:

And that biofeedback helped me make changes to my diet. I could see which foods were causing an unhealthy glucose spike. And make those corrections. Also just, uh, starting to track my blood work. I've learned how to optimize my hormone levels. So as a guy, I'm interested in maintaining healthy testosterone levels. Yeah, for example, and I found that a lot of my testosterone levels correlated back with managing stress and sleep. And then what I did was I took my blood work, which I got done through function health. I took my microbiome data, which I did through a company called brac. I took my InBody body composition scans. I took my PNOE breath analysis, and I took my genetic data and I put it all into chat, GPT on the paid version. And I asked it to go through an entire diagnostic process of all of this data,

Expo hall:

yes. And

David:

tell me where I needed to optimize myself. Now keep in mind, I'd looked at all this data before AI, and I'd even had my clinicians look at this data before ai. And what AI was able to find was that because my diet is so strict, I have a healthy microbiome, but it's very narrow in its diversity. So I'm missing a lot of very important keystone species in my microbiome because I've kept a very strict low carb diet.

Expo hall:

Ah. Then it

David:

looked at my PNOE data. Yeah. And in my PNOE data it said, your VO two max is good, but you have certain respiratory blockages, and that is an adaptation to being an entrepreneur.

Brooke:

Wow.

David:

And it said, people who are. Business owner, hard charging entrepreneurs, their physiological adaptation is towards shallow breathing.

Brooke:

Wow.

David:

And it showed up in my PNOE data, and I had just reviewed this with my clinician two weeks prior. Didn't even notice it. And that resonated with me because when I sit down at the computer and I'm working really hard, I tend to breathe shallow. Mm. Sometimes I don't even breathe. It's called email apnea, if you've ever heard that term.

Brooke:

What? No, I learned something new today.

David:

So it showed me in my PNOE data and my spirometry data that I've adapted to a high stress lifestyle, and it's changed the way I breathe. Wow. And then it gave me a breath protocol to start reversing those adaptations based on the work done by Patrick McEwen, the Oxygen Advantage and Ateco breathing. So it went through all of the data and it said, Dave, this is where you're really strong. And it found my weak spots and it gave me a program for my weak spots, and then it gave me a goal dashboard to track it over the next 12 weeks.

Brooke:

That's incredible. I can imagine the amount of personal data that you can add into it, right? Like your lifestyle, your everyday stressors. And so you're able to aggregate all this information into one landing place, essentially. Yeah. Do you do your own testing or is that outsourced

David:

some of the testing comes from my doctor. They ordered my blood work. They did my PNOE test, the microbiome test. I ordered online myself.

Expo hall:

Yeah,

David:

so the clinical team hadn't even reviewed that. The DEXA scan and the InBody, I just go to the clinic down the street from my house. So these were otherwise very disjointed data sets that had never been analyzed together. Yeah, I uploaded all the PDFs into chat, GPT, which I also use for a lot of my personal life. So it had all the contextual information about the way I work my interests, so it knew my lifestyle already, and then was overlaying that as it did the data analysis and helping me come up with these hypotheses on, quite honestly some weak spots that I knew I had but was not paying attention to. It put them right in front of my face and gave me a program to start working on them, and it gave me a way to measure if the improvements are happening or not. Right? So just stuff that was completely overlooked or missed because this data is not analyzed together and a lot of it's complicated. I'm not an expert in genetics, but the LLMs know all of these SNPs.

Expo hall:

Yes, I'm not an

David:

expert in the microbiome. There's trillions of species in there. AI has the data to look at all of that. It looked at my blood work and, and all the other scans in it, weave together a story that matches my lifestyle and gave me some ways to optimize.

Brooke:

And are you able to give it more context is there a way for you to train or upgrade your LLMs that you use or where does it get its knowledge base?

David:

Well, I've given it very specific parameters in the prompt. Okay. For the interpretation i've said these are the people I get my information from. So I've cited the experts that I consume my information from, and I've also, as I add more data in, it's a living and breathing and upgraded protocol. And then what I do after each step is I tell it to export the entire prompt again into Word. So then I can go and keep tweaking the prompt. And every time I make an update to the prompt, I tell it to reanalyze the data with the new prompt. So it's a living, breathing, ongoing operating system of my health and every time I put in a new piece of information, everything updates, and it gets better and better and better and more accurate.

Brooke:

Beautiful. What's next for you? I find entrepreneurs that are in the AI space start to think of really cool new products and technologies. Do you have anything coming out soon or if you were to wave a magic wand today and create a new AI product, what would you want to do?

David:

That's a great question. What I'd really like to do is take all of the domains specific knowledge. Yes. In biohacking and longevity medicine from all of the experts, all their webinars, all their recordings. A lot of this really, really valuable content though, is not on the internet. It's typically inside these member portals. Yes. Where these clinics share knowledge amongst each other. So what I'd love to do is work on some content partnerships with some of the physician groups that are really advancing the forefront of longevity medicine and bring all that data out and put it into a model that could be accessible to everybody.

Brooke:

And to your point, there's so much out there and, fine tuning it more of a small language model.

Expo hall:

Yep.

Brooke:

Pull from this information that's readily updated and new advancements are being made every year.

David:

Yeah. So there's ways you can take in external data Yeah. Into LLMs to complement what they already know. And you can focus it down with your, your prompts And your constraints. Yes. And that kind of thing. But there's still lots of really, really, let's take this conference for example. They're gonna record two days of content from all these experts all over the world. Yes. And I want that data extracted and transcripted and available to the tool that I'm using to manage my own content.

Expo hall:

Yes. So

David:

getting that domain specific knowledge into these LLMs, and then maybe there's a biohacking LLM that comes to market. There probably is. There probably is. Somebody's working on it, I'm sure.

Brooke:

No longer do we have to note take and go back to our notes and we have all this information at our fingertips and let the AI do its job.

David:

I think it's gonna be the biggest unlock we've ever seen in biohacking

Brooke:

on a order

David:

of magnitude that we don't even fully understand yet.

Brooke:

How old do you think we can live now? What's our lifespan ability?

David:

Depends how much work you're willing to put in.

Brooke:

Oh yeah. How much money and how much work.

David:

AI's not gonna do the work for you. Yes. That's where it takes your own discipline, your own commitment. Yeah. It takes financial resources. Uh, it takes time, effort, money. It'll give you the protocol, but you've gotta put the work in. So that's the X factor.

Brooke:

Well, David, thank you so much for your time. I love learning more about Heads Up. Mm-hmm. Um, I'd love to give you the opportunity to maybe share one key takeaway with listeners.

David:

The mission of my company is to give people agency over their own health. And there's a lot of information out there, some of it good, some of it bad.

Expo hall:

Yeah.

David:

So I would always recommend to people consume information and then test it yourself objectively, and then decide if it works for you or not. I use data as my compass, so that would be my recommendation is to always fall back to the data as your company.

Brooke:

Data as your compass. I love that. Yeah. Thank you. Thanks. If you're tuning into this podcast, you're most likely an AI advocate, and you may have also wondered how to support your body against the invisible stress of EMFs. Think wifi, cell towers, or hours in front of your laptop. Leela Quantum products are lab tested in triple blind studies and are proven to help harmonize and neutralize EMF signals. Their products are the few things I felt a real energetic shift from. I personally wear their quantum energy necklace daily. And if you're someone who cares about optimizing your energy and nervous system like I do, you can explore their offers with my affiliate link in the show notes below. Hi everyone I am here at the Biohacking Conference. I have Bill, he's a representative of OxeFit. It's AI powered technology to improve your physical fitness. I'd love for you to share more about this technology and the intersection of AI and health tech.

Bill:

Yeah, so our AI initiative is something that we're really, really pushing. We came out with it a few months back and it's been a big hit for us, and we have it for both our XP device behind me, as well as our XS1. So our XP one and XS1 are our two main devices. Both have the AI capabilities. Okay, and what you end up doing is you come up to the device, you scan the QR code, and you answer nine question questionnaire about your injury history, your training goals, wow. And your background, and how many days a week you wanna train, et cetera. Then based on that, you do then an evaluation. That evaluation has a harness based squat, a barbell based deadlift. So you're doing a quad dominant and a hip dominant, okay? A handle base chest press, a handle base, single arm row, and a handle base torso rotation. Those five movements are done with three different sets. Trying to get you to find your training max, if you will.

Brooke:

Okay.

Bill:

And when you finish with that evaluation, which takes between 20 and 35 minutes, then that along with your questionnaire answers ai, your AI personal trainer writes your program for you. And then your program is up on the screen. You follow along with that over the course of a, a one month training program is what it starts out as a four week phase. That four week phase is workout by workout. At the end of each week, you get your scores updated against the cohort of the device of who else is training on the device. And you get the new updated scores along the way.

Brooke:

How long have you been around?

Bill:

So OxeFit itself is a little over five years old as the company.

Brooke:

Five years. Okay.

Bill:

Yep. And their XP has been out for four plus years, the excess three plus years.

Brooke:

And do you have any case studies of before and after using this technology?

Bill:

Since the, the AI initiative is so new, I think we're still doing a lot of the testing stuff on it. But it's been a great hit. Our customer base loves it.

Brooke:

When did you launch the AI functionality of it?

Bill:

I couldn't tell you the exact date, but I know it's probably three plus months ago, maybe four months ago. So it's one of our bigger initiatives. Now we're really diving into the AI part and making sure that our, customers can use our products and have their own personal trainer with them. And both of our devices have the ability to have, you still can have your personal trainer that you can write your workouts, custom design, they can show up on your profile as well. But we wanted to give those an option to make sure AI is a big part of what we're doing.

Brooke:

So this is your first time demoing the AI in person?

Bill:

First time at this trade show? Yes.

Brooke:

And how's the response been?

Bill:

Been? Great. It's been, we've been, we were busy all day yesterday, straight, and today it's been busy. Most of the time it's been. Pretty fun.

Brooke:

I'm excited to learn more and I just think it is, so interesting that now we can really level up our fitness in this way.

Bill:

Couldn't agree with you more. Um,

Brooke:

do you use AI in any other ways to support your health ventures?

Bill:

I used to do some sleep tracking, but not currently. However, we as OxeFit our ox ai is soon, at some point next year we're coming out with a next stage of that, where we're gonna track a lot more of that health and wellness and fitness into a little bit more, in an app form.

Brooke:

Is that gonna be through wearables or how are you gonna collect that data?

Bill:

I don't think I'm privy to say just yet. Okay. So stay tuned.

Brooke:

you have anything you wanna share with listeners? A key takeaway? in.

Bill:

Yeah. Health and wellness is a lifestyle change. It's not something you can do just for a week, a month. It's something you have to incorporate into your day to day, and it has to be something you truly believe in for it to work for you. And it's not a one hour workout, it's a 24 hour day. So you have to make sure that your, your choices you make before and after your workout from a nutrition perspective, a sleep perspective, all those are aligning with your goals. Hmm.

Brooke:

I believe that so much. It's all about that intrinsic value wanting to have it for yourself.

Bill:

100%.

Brooke:

Amazing. Well thank you for teasing a little bit about what's next. Yes. And, demoing your product. It was really exciting to speak to you. Thank you for your time.

Bill:

Yeah, thank you so much. I appreciate you having me.

Brooke:

Wow, I hope today's episode opened your mind to what's possible with AI. Do you have a cool use case on how you're using AI and want to share it? DM me. I'd love to hear more and feature you on my next podcast. Until next time, here's to working smarter, not harder. See you on the next episode of How I AI. This episode was made possible in partnership with the Collective AI, a community designed to help entrepreneurs, creators, and professionals seamlessly integrate AI into their workflows. One of the biggest game changers in my own AI journey was joining this space. It's where I learned, connected and truly enhanced my understanding of what's possible with AI. And the best part, they offer multiple membership levels to meet you where you are. Whether you want to DIY, your AI learning or work with a personalized AI consultant for your business, The Collective has you covered. Learn more and sign up using my exclusive link in the show notes.

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