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Take This Job And Love It!!!

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Jenn and Phara explore the challenges nurses and professionals face in the workplace and offer strategies for transforming these challenges into opportunities for joy and satisfaction.

• Nine reasons people dislike their jobs, including toxic environments, feeling unappreciated, and value misalignment
• The importance of researching advancement opportunities and benefits before accepting positions
• How commute time, workload, and organizational culture impact job satisfaction
• Creative ways to inject fun into the workplace, from organizing Zumba breaks to bringing in snacks
• Strategies for diversifying skills and developing side gigs during times of job insecurity
• The value of continuous professional development through certifications and additional training
• Communication techniques for addressing workplace challenges effectively
• Importance of recognizing that perfect jobs don't exist, but finding growth opportunities makes challenges worthwhile

Make the most out of your job. Try to take something from it a little bit each day.


Speaker 1:

Hi, my name is Jen and this is Farrah. Welcome to our show. Listen Very Caustically, hey. Hey, farrah, how are you doing Jen? Good, I can't believe this is our Second show. Yep, second episode. We're doing it and we're committing to it and we were going to make sure that you get content weekly. So how was your week? It was very productive. It was just a good week. It was not too stressful, I got a lot done. It was extremely productive and, yeah, I'm content and I'm happy where I'm at so far. Okay, yeah, how was yours?

Speaker 2:

Good to hear Same here. Very productive, very busy week. I had some projects that I wanted to accomplish and Two of them that I got accomplished, so I'm very proud of myself. We'll talk about that a little bit later.

Speaker 1:

Okay, okay, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2:

So this week's topic is take this job and love it. Okay, so we are going to talk about some challenges nurses and other people face out in the field at work and how to overcome those challenges at work.

Speaker 1:

It's already a stressful profession where you deal with patients whether they are aggressive, racist and you name it and on the other hand, you have patients who are dying, families that you've made connections with, so you're already dealing with that aspect of the job. You want to be in an environment that is healthy and I spoke earlier about fertilizer. I truly believe that if your employee is satisfied, you will get amazing results out of it.

Speaker 2:

Okay, all right. So what would you say? Are some, you know, valid reasons why people say they don't like their jobs?

Speaker 1:

I think a valid reason would be they don't feel appreciated.

Speaker 2:

Okay, that's on the top of the list. I made a list of nine. Okay, that's on the top of the list. I made a list of nine, okay, nine things that people you know constantly, at least in my experience, share with me why, oh my God, I don't, you know, I want, I want to do something else. I don't like this job, I don't like this specialty. Let's hear it. Yeah, okay. So the first one. I don't want to sound cliche, but you hear this word a lot. Oh, I'm working in such a toxic work environment. My work environment is so well, what's toxic about?

Speaker 1:

it. I was just going to ask. So what are some things that could be toxic in a work environment?

Speaker 2:

Well, you're dealing with. You have to understand you're dealing with different attitudes and personalities. So what you may find toxic, somebody else just thrives in it, they love it, that's what they want. So you have to step back and say, okay, do I want to be a part of this or not? For example, like you might work in a place where there's a lot of cliques, like different cliques, different groups of people, there's a lot of gossip, there's a lot of you know backstabbing, there's a lot like in psych we have this term called splitting, where one employee will pit one against the other. There's a lot of disrespect. So that could be, that could be described as a toxic work environment, and I'm sure other people have examples too.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

And back to what you were saying. Number two is people don't feel appreciated. Right, recognition, yeah, we say that a lot. Sometimes, a lot of times, nursing is a thankless, thankless job. Right, you just have to. At the end of your shift, you have to pat yourself on the back because sometimes it'll get overlooked.

Speaker 1:

You have to pat yourself on the back because sometimes it'll get overlooked. Every time you clock in and you go to work, you leave clocking out or leave with a piece of you left. You leave a piece of you every single day.

Speaker 2:

Right, yeah, okay. So number three is values. You have to ask yourself Do my values align Exactly? What are my values? What are my values? Are you know my religious beliefs going against this particular area that I want to work in? For example, if you're practice a certain faith, you may not feel comfortable in certain situations Like palliative care. That'd be one End-of-life care. Number two is situations like OBGYN, situations where the woman wants to have an abortion and it's totally against your values. The woman wants to have an abortion and it's like, totally against your values. So you have to find out if your values align with wherever it is that you're going to be working. Otherwise you're going to be miserable. So don't put yourself in that situation, right, okay. Number four is money Money, right, right, we don't work for free, okay, we don't work for free. So you go to school for at least four years to get your BSN or get your bachelor's in public health or whatever specialty. You want to work whatever field, whether it's business or whatever.

Speaker 1:

That's why I love nursing so much. You can do, you can go in so many directions. It's just wow yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so salary is a big thing. You have to do your own research to find out.

Speaker 1:

Okay, what is the market?

Speaker 2:

or offering right and, and you know, salary depends on the state. I can tell you, okay, I'm a practitioner in new york and it's completely different in the south, it's completely different in the mid, it's different in the Northeast. You have to find out where you want to be, how much money you want to make, how much money you want to save.

Speaker 1:

Yes, but I'll tell you this Salary is not the only thing I don't know if it's on your list, but opportunities, If the job really promotes growth. And what are they giving you? Are they giving you tuition reimbursement? Are they giving you like discount? In certain places you jumped ahead of me.

Speaker 2:

That was number five.

Speaker 1:

See, we think alike. Yeah, you know number five. I'm so sorry, no, no, no, because this is really really, really a good thing and for me, like when I was switching hospitals or where I work, I put number one hospital and it popped up and I read a lot about it and I dug in and then that was it for me. I didn't just go blindly because this is a hospital, blah, blah, blah, like I really researched it all the way down.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so yeah. Number five is what opportunities are there for advancement? Right, and that's a good question to ask at the interview. Don't be afraid to ask that question, even if you're even if you're a new graduate, don't be afraid to ask that question. Even if you're a new graduate, don't be afraid to ask okay, are there opportunities for educational advancement? Like Jen said, do I get tuition reimbursement? Do I get CME credits? Do I get money for books and for uniform and medical equipment? Right?

Speaker 1:

Do I get money for conferences? Are there certifications?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Are there certifications, like if I get certified, is it worth it? What opportunities are there for me to go back to school and advance my degree? If I want to be a clinical nurse specialist or a midwife or a nurse practitioner or a nurse educator or whatever floats your boat, what opportunities are there for?

Speaker 1:

advancement and opportunities also for advancement doesn't even have to be about nursing only the organization that I'm working for. Are they offering like computer class, like Excel, things that you will need if you're in an administrative role, like things like that.

Speaker 2:

Even opportunities to learn a foreign language to make yourself more marketable. Right, because hospitals and other organizations use bilingual services, like where I work. There was this program last year where if you spoke a second language, you had the opportunity to become recognized as a bilingual employee for the organization. So we had to do like kind of like a language test, a language assessment test, and if you score a certain level then you pass. So I did it, because I speak Haitian Creole, so I did it and now I'm recognized in the facility as someone who is bilingual. So if a patient needs translation services or something like that, you can do your own assessment where you don't have to necessarily go and get.

Speaker 1:

Employers who are hiring love this question and I think that when they ask you this question, sometimes they ask it because they have to ask it, but it's an opportunity for you to see where they're at and to kind of interview them. Where do you see yourself in five years? In five years I see myself advancing my career, growing in my career and I have a question for you what does the hospital or this facility has to offer me for me to get to that role?

Speaker 2:

Absolutely so. The next one on the list is oh, this job is so boring, I wish I could do something else. I'm bored. I feel like I'm stuck where I am. I don't see a way out. Well, you have to do your own research, and there's always a way out. There's always an exit. There's always a different path that you can take. Even if you want to stay in your job, there's something else that you can do to make it more challenging, make it more exciting.

Speaker 1:

I'll say one thing leave, just leave, because you can find something else. I always say there are two places. You always, always have to try to be content, happy, not like at peace. It's your job and your home, and that's it. Leave. Well, suppose it's that easy. What do you do? Why isn't it that easy? Well, I mean, you will, yes, you will do your research, but I don't think someone should stay in the same facility and try to go to a different department. I mean, it all depends, like, let's say, the culture of the unit. Let's say it's a nurse. The culture of the unit is very toxic. They can go to another unit, that's fine in the hospital, but if it's a whole system, I think they should leave.

Speaker 2:

Okay, all right. So okay, what's next on the list? The commute how far is your job? Trust me, before you select a job I don't care what it is the first thing I always do is how far from my house is this commute? How am I going to get there?

Speaker 2:

Let me tell you something. I lived in Florida and I used to live in one county and worked in another city. Now, on a good day, it would take me 45 minutes to get to work on a good day. But let me tell you something those good days weren't very often. Two hours, two hours to get there, 90 minutes, two hours to get back my God, that's a lot of time, and because of the traffic. I'm telling you, if you're commuting to work and you're exhausted even before the beginning of your shift, you are going to be miserable. Find out what the commute is, how much it's going to cost in gas or transportation or whatnot, what time you need to leave to get there on time, what time you're going to get back home. Find out what the commute. Don't just jump on the job because, oh, it's a job and it pays well, et cetera. Your commute to work makes a big difference.

Speaker 1:

My previous job, I lived seven minutes away and I used to commute by car. Now my current job, I take the train, I take the subway and it takes me about an hour and 15 minutes, but I'm listening to a book or I'm listening to a podcast our podcast, of course, Okay, and I'm doing my makeup. Don't judge me. I get like 20 to 30 minutes of sleep if I do my makeup on the train. I get to teach a lot of people too. So anyway, but it's a big difference from before. I think it's because I'm on the train.

Speaker 2:

I'm not focused on the drive, but yeah, I mean, if you don't have a choice, you don't have a choice. Make the most of it. Like Jen said, make the most of it and read a book, bring your music, meditate, do something to go to the commute, but the commute is big.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it is big.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so the next one I would say is the workload. Okay, what's the workload like? Like we nurses can tell you, depending on where you work. That's another question to ask. What's the nurse-patient ratio going to be?

Speaker 1:

That's another question to ask what's the nurse-patient ratio going to be?

Speaker 2:

Right, as a leader of my department, I listen to my team and you have people say that the job is not what it seemed At first. You had one appearance, the job gave you one impression and then six months down the line, a year later, it's not what it's cracked up to be. And that can be in any field, not necessarily nursing. Everybody has that experience. The job seemed very glamorous in the job description and at the interview and during orientation. And then you know you're a newbie. When you first get in the job You're like, oh, you know you want to fit in. And then over time it's like okay, they didn't tell me this part, you didn't read the fine print. Well, and other duties. You're responsible for X, y and Z and other duties. So don't go into the job with rose-colored glasses, thinking that, even if you do your best sometimes.

Speaker 1:

And ask questions. Don't be afraid to ask questions. The more questions you ask, it shows that you have more of an interest, and the only question I would say not to ask is how much is the salary? You know it's tacky.

Speaker 2:

There are ways. There are ways, I mean, you're not going to go in and say, okay, well, how much does it pay? Well, so there are ways you can say, you can address the salary. You can say, well, compared to other organizations. This is what I've heard, or I've researched. This is what the range is. So can you tell me a little bit about the salary and other benefits that come with the role? There are ways you can get onto that subject without sounding tacky, because it's an important thing. I mean, like it just goes back to you.

Speaker 1:

put in all that hard work and education to take your boards, to become licensed and what if you wait until you get that call, and then they offer you and then you negotiate yeah, you can do, you know, because then I feel like it shouldn't be asked like you, you, you should wait. You get that call, you're a good candidate, you believe in yourself. They offer you the salary and you say I think I deserve this, this and that, and then you can negotiate again, it goes back to where you are and, true, what organization you work for.

Speaker 2:

And I'll give you an example. Let's say you work for a hospital system and it's unionized and those salaries are. They don't just come out of a hat, they're negotiated by union leaders, by the staff, by the hospital, by executives, by the nurses. There's like a range. And you go in there. Yeah, you can negotiate for a few or thousand more, for a few or thousand more.

Speaker 2:

But when you go into that interview, if the job, let's say, pays okay, this job pays $96,000. Okay, you have experience, or you're a new grad or whatever, but this is what the salary is. Are you okay with that? That's something you can talk, because otherwise what are we doing here? I'm going to wait another week for you to come back and tell me well, yeah, we're very interested in you, but this is what we can pay you. And then I'm like well, I think I deserve more than that. Can we go back?

Speaker 2:

I don't have that kind of time. I'm at the interview. Tell me what the ballpark figure is. It doesn't have to be down to the very dollar and cents, but tell me what the ballpark figure is, so I'll know. Am I wasting my time even applying for this position, or can I move on and go somewhere else? That's how I feel about it. So what would you say was the 10th reason why people say they don't like their jobs? I think we went over nine of them. I can't think of anything else. I'm sure our listeners have tons of reasons. Yeah, we would love to see your comments.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, give us some feedback. Let us know what you don't like about your job. So back to the topic. Take this job and love it. How do we make things better? How do we help our audience overcome some of these challenges so that they're not in a position where they hate going to work. They enjoy going to work.

Speaker 1:

One of the things that first you have to assess and find out exactly why you hate going to the job. From that you find a problem and you come up with a solution. In nursing we do a lot of research. You see a problem, you do interventions, you see if it works works and you adapt it. So if the problem is it's a toxic environment and it's not toxic because there are clicks, it's toxic from the top down, but the entire hospital or the facility is great, I'm going to move on to another unit. That's why I would say, like find a solution for your problems and then, according to that, then you move on.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and you can remove yourself If you work for an organization where you feel like it's some kind of environment that you don't want to be in, like Jen said, if you want to, you can look for another job. Try to find something else. Like Jen said, if you want to, you can look for another job, try to find something else. But I think, no matter where you are, especially these days, if the workload is too much.

Speaker 1:

For example, let's say you are in a very high stressful acuity place like an ICU or like a step down, and the workload is too much and you've been on that unit for about I don't know five to ten years and it's getting to you physically, mentally. It's challenging, but the hospital or the facility is great. They give you great opportunities. It's just the workload. You can go to another specialty, something where it's not too demanding. You can go to like pre-op, you can go to something administrative. You don't have to stay in that you. You just find a solution to your problems what about if you don't feel appreciated?

Speaker 2:

how do you get around that if you feel like you're at work and you're putting 110 percent but you're not being, you don't feel valued, you don't feel your efforts and your contributions are appreciated.

Speaker 1:

Is this by your? Is this by your, your supervisor or your manager? You don't feel appreciated by your supervisor, your manager or the organization itself.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean it could be one, it could be everything, it could be depending on where you work. If you work where it's just the two of you or the three of you and you're carrying all the workload, you're doing most of the work and the other two colleagues aren't. When you go the extra mile, when you volunteer on your days off to come in, when you stay late, come in early and stay late and all those things they're looked over at the end of the year. You don't even get a gift certificate.

Speaker 1:

So I think communication is the key right. A lot of people don't realize that there's not enough recognition and some people or some leaders are receptive to feedback. Others are not. But it's good to raise your voice and that's why it's important to be in a safety environment where you feel like you can speak up, where you feel like your thoughts matter, and if it's with a colleague who you feel you're taking advantage of, I think you should speak up.

Speaker 2:

Communication is very important. Always don't hold it in. There are effective ways to communicate your wants, your needs, and your desires and your wishes.

Speaker 1:

It's not what you say, it's how you say it.

Speaker 2:

What about if there are no opportunities for advancement, then what do you do?

Speaker 1:

You gotta go, you gotta go, you gotta leave. You have to leave because it's a system, it's a systemic issue, it's the entire thing. You have to go. Where are you going to get the opportunities, though, for advancing when you can't create it? You got to go, you got to fly, all right. So now, how do you have fun at work? How do you have fun? How do you love your job? How do you get to love your job? Every job has a stressful day, a stressful period and a stressful aspect, but what they are good? Stress. Maybe. That stress is making you grow. You're learning, and once you've learned enough, you can move on to another place in your career. I remember I worked in in medical ICU overnight shift and I tell you, when three o'clock hit, this is the time where you can't even open your eyes. You're tired, you're trying to like oh my God.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I used to be a night nurse. Yes, on the med surge unit unit. You talking about three o'clock. Let me tell you something by by 1, 32 am I'm telling you. I mean, I don't know how I did it for for that long I did it for, like I was just about to say how long you did it?

Speaker 1:

for almost two years.

Speaker 2:

I did it for eight years, eight years yeah, so, but I was breastfeeding at the time too. Oh wow, yeah, I was a night nurse, and then in the morning I'd have to come home and take care of my infant, so I was functioning on three to four hours of sleep per day. I was very sleep deprived.

Speaker 1:

So I was at that time. I was into Zumba so I decided every night Jen works, the unit was round, so you go around the unit and you come back to where you went. So all the doctors, the fellows, the interns, residents, everybody knows we're going to do lunges, so we would do lunches all around and then I would put some music and we'd do a little Zumba. So that to me was like fun. Yeah, like I made it fun.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I like to bring snacks in at work, like they call me the snack lady. I love bringing snacks. I bring chips. So as soon as I turn those frowns upside down, I bring in cookies, and I don't even wait till I get to my office. I start from the front reception. If it's Valentine's Day, I'm bringing cupcakes with the hearts on them for the girls in the front. I'm bringing chips. I'm bringing soda. I'm the birthday recognition person, like, oh, it's such and such birthday. So they know, farrah's the birthday planner. I'm the one that's planning little office lunches and parties. There are lots of ways to have fun at work.

Speaker 1:

I was when I worked in the surgical ICU and this was day shift. Every time I worked I came, I come off the subway and there is this fruit vendor and I would get bananas. Everybody knew I would come in the morning. I put the bananas there because I know we will not have time to eat throughout the day and I know the night shift did not have time to eat overnight. So everybody grabs a banana and bananas full of nutrients and potassium. Even the attending would come and say where's my banana? I have to put his name on it and for him to have it. So definitely like whatever input you can do to brighten your co-workers day.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, what I like about my organization is they're very, very culturally aware, like they appreciate other people's cultures, so so very much. Like they don't let a holiday pass without some kind of celebration, I think that's important.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's like we have like Black History Month every year and we go all out, we recite speeches from Dr King, dr, martin Luther King. We bring out folk art from different countries around the world. We have an African dance celebration. We have musicians come in and play music. Every year we have this. And then we have Women's History Month, where we learn everything about women and women's contributions, and then we have painting classes. You go to the city and do like sip and paint yeah, no-transcript. And then there's like a big thing outside where they bring food. They're constantly doing some kind of saloos. For that reason alone, I love where I work, because there's always something fun Every week, every month. There's always some fun activity that you can sign up for. Oh, and we also have like a wellness center. We have a wellness center. They give massages. They give massages at work. They give out free coffee. Sometimes you can just go in there and meditate. They have aromatherapy.

Speaker 1:

I mean it's, it's great there are ways I think it's important to invest in your yeah, and your staff yeah, they're wasting at work, I sing like I I used to.

Speaker 1:

I sing a lot and sometimes I don't even realize that I'm singing. So at the bedside, as a bedside nurse, I always sang for my patients and they called me the singing nurse. Like if you're giving a bed bath, for example, because we did the bed bath at night of ICU, if the patient was intubated and sedated, whatever energy I got from them. Or if they're older, I would play Frank Sinatra or some jazz for them while I watch them. If they're awake, then I ask you and then I play whatever you like we also have like karaoke with like.

Speaker 2:

When I worked in another department we had every month we have like karaoke. So the staff I have a coworker, he's wonderful, he brings his karaoke machine, so he and I we do like duets together with the patients, so like he'll play Lionel Richie and I'll be Diana Ross or something like that. We'll do like a duet or a solo and then the patients get up and then they sing. So yeah, there are ways to have fun at work. You just got to find your niche, find what you like to do and don't wait for somebody else to do it. Yeah, take the initiative and say OK, how about we try this, we do this? Yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's everybody's input to make a place healthy.

Speaker 2:

you know how do you share the workload. If the workload is too heavy, you ask for help. Never be afraid to ask for help. Yeah, because if you take on something that you can't do that's too much work well and something happens, then it's on you. Don't be afraid to speak up and say hey, I don't think this is a safe assignment or I'm doing way too much and I need some help. Don't be afraid to ask for help. No man is an island, right?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and don't be afraid to ask questions too. No question is a dumb question, especially like you say I'm sorry, I have a question. No, I have a question. Or this may be a dumb question, but no, it's a question. You'd be surprised, things that you would think that someone would know, and they don't know it.

Speaker 2:

So let's talk about what's happening nowadays. In the past couple of weeks, past couple of months, you know, before we got on the air, we were like brainstorming and talking about it. There's a lot of job insecurity these days, wouldn't you agree? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah definitely.

Speaker 2:

A lot of people are losing their jobs and getting laid off.

Speaker 1:

So job insecurity is a big thing and I think you know, over the next couple of episodes we should start talking about, we should dive in more into like we were talking about research and stuff like that but we should dive in more into helping people how to even write a resume, like what's important on a resume Is it okay to have a four page resume? How to market yourself on an interview from how to dress. So I think it's very important for us to start seeing that. Yeah, the atmosphere where we are right now, a lot of people have job insecurity and it's we just don't know.

Speaker 2:

And how to think outside the box and find that job and stand out to find that job, because the unemployment line is just going to be long and long and long, and if you're standing in it, you have to be able to be that one that they single out and say, hey, you're the one I want for this position. So we can talk about that some more.

Speaker 1:

I think nursing is very flexible, where you can do different things. I remember like I, I don't want to go to grad school, but I wanted to learn something. I was like, oh my God, I love makeup, I'm so good at makeup, I should become an esthetician, because I researched. You can't practice as a makeup artist without your aesthetic license. So I did that for nine months and I was like, oh, I'm going to buy everything. I have the high chair, I have the ring light, I have everything. But the only thing I did not have was confidence, so that stopped me from doing it.

Speaker 1:

But as a nurse with a flexible schedule, with a flexible schedule, you can dip into other things, like baking. I know a nurse who is a singer in the Haitian community. Hopefully, if I invite her, I'm sure she can make it and explain how things are going for her. And she still works Right and she sings, she goes to shows and music videos and photo shoots and things like that. So you just need to find something else that you're passionate about as well, to diversify and and always have have a little side gig too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm big on side gigs. I'm a side gig, I'm big on side gigs. I'm a notary public. You are now a oh, I am now a certified CPR first aid, cpr AED instructor. So I used to be a Lyft driver. Yeah, what didn't you do?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, I'm a jack of all trades, master of none, yeah, so yeah, and just while you are where scheduled myself, I'll be taking the vascular access board certification. So I have to pass now because I just announced it. So I'm studying already. You'll pass. I just got one in March and people are like, oh, why You're already board certified? You just got one in March and people are like, oh, why You're already board certified. You just got another one and now you're studying for the other one. And it's not about letters behind my name. For me it all makes sense.

Speaker 1:

I'm med-surg certified because I was a med-surg nurse. I managed a med-surg nurse. I was an assistant manager of a med-surg nurse, med-surg nurse. I was an assistant manager of a med-surg nurse med-surg unit and then I became a patient care director and I felt like it was very important that I became certified and learn more. So I received my nurse executive advanced board certification and, as a patient care director of a vascular access department, I think it's very important for me to know and learn the practice, everything so that I can become a better leader. So you're investing in yourself and you're also making yourself more marketable and more knowledgeable. You're giving yourself tools to elevate you. So I think that we can't just sit down and just think oh, my hospital want me to have a certification, or my hospital wants me want love masters, or I need this in order to move up. You need to see is it going to benefit you in the long run with your knowledge, your expertise.

Speaker 2:

I wholeheartedly agree with that. I absolutely agree. Yeah, yeah, it's always the more you need to know. Yeah, that's my motto.

Speaker 1:

And the only way you'll really learn is by asking questions. That's why I go back to asking questions I don't know. And the more you ask questions in the beginning, the easier it's going to be, because you're asking basic questions and sometimes you'll ask questions that you step, you go over what, like you surpass the basics, to ask another question that you may think like, oh, it's a stupid question. But no, oh my God, I was going to get there with you, but yeah, that's what.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's a big part of my job. I do a lot of patient interviews and I start from what do you like to eat to what kind of music do you listen to. What do you do for work? What kind of? What kind of work did you do before you retired? Tell me about your family. So I'm always asking questions, and even in administration. Well, why is this policy the way it is? Can it be changed? Can it be adjusted? It's kind of outdated. Can we update it? Can we bring it up to date? So never be afraid to ask questions.

Speaker 1:

And especially if you're dealing with patients, because, at the end of the day, it's not about your pride, it's about the patient's safety, because they are under your care.

Speaker 2:

And let me tell you, you decided to come into nursing for a reason. Back to what we were talking last week Nursing is a calling. You decided to become a nurse because you want to make a difference, you want to care for patients, you want to be a health coach, a life coach, and there's a reason why you are where you are. So make the most out of your job. Try to take something from it a little bit each day. Make the most out of your job. That's all I can say.

Speaker 1:

And you need to see it this way Just like romantic relationships are not perfect, they're not easy, but that there's something that makes you stay, if it's bearable, it's the same, it's the same method. Or there's something that you're like what I love him so much, or I love her so much that I'm going to stay in this and we can work it out. So it's the same thing with a job. You need to see it's a relationship. Basically, what am I getting from it? How am I growing from it? Because you can grow with someone. So those are the things that we wanted to let you know for this episode.

Speaker 2:

So take this job and love it.

Speaker 1:

We really hope that you enjoyed it and that you grabbed a little piece of ideas from us yeah, advice from us, and so yeah, thank you for spending your time with us, and we're out.

Speaker 2:

We're out, bye-bye.