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The Six P's of Interview Success

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Nervous about your next job interview? You're not alone. In this eye-opening episode, Jenn and Phara break down "The Six P's of Interviewing" – a comprehensive framework that transforms anxiety into confidence and preparation into success.

The journey begins with Purpose – understanding why you truly want this position beyond just needing a paycheck. Your genuine motivation shines through when you've done the soul-searching to identify what draws you specifically to this role. Preparation starts the moment you submit your application, not the night before your interview. Research the organization thoroughly, understand their values, and anticipate questions that showcase your unique value proposition.

Presentation isn't just about your outfit (though that matters!). From your resume's layout to your arrival time, every detail contributes to that crucial first impression. We share real stories about navigating professional appearances while staying authentic to yourself. Posture encompasses both your physical stance and how you engage verbally – maintaining eye contact, providing specific examples rather than generalizations, and connecting with everyone in the room.

Professionalism extends beyond the interview room into your online presence and overall reputation. As Phara notes, "You will be doxxed even before you step into that room." Finally, Post-Interview follow-up demonstrates your continued interest and sets you apart from equally qualified candidates.

Whether you're a nursing student preparing for your first professional interview or a seasoned healthcare professional looking to advance your career, these actionable strategies will help you walk into your next interview with confidence, preparation, and purpose. Subscribe now and let us know which of the Six P's you find most challenging!

Episode Introduction

Speaker 1

Hello, hello everyone. My name is Jen and this is Farrah. Welcome to our show. Listen Very Costly.

Speaker 2

Hi Farrah, how are you? I'm good. How are you doing Jen?

Speaker 1

I'm good. How was last week? I know it was a big you know week Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving you mean Easter, oops, they're all the same to me. I associate food with Thanksgiving. Like what month are we in? I'm telling you?

Speaker 2

Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was a busy week. It was really busy Church activities, family cooking, dinner, all that good stuff. Yeah, it was very busy week, as usual.

Speaker 1

Yeah mine was. It was good. Like again I'm associating food with Thanksgiving my family had a big, big dinner, so that was really good. My son and I got to play do egg hunting actually in the apartment, so it was a lot of fun.

Speaker 2

That's good.

Speaker 1

So this week's topic. I hope you guys enjoyed our last episode. We're still waiting on comments from you. Please give us feedback. We love it, we absolutely love it, and we're enjoying learning in the process. So this week's topic we will be talking about the six P's of interviewing so how does it feel when I know that any everyone, when you're going to an interview, when you've been called and it's set up and you know the date is approaching it's?

Speaker 2

very nerve wracking Extremely.

The Six P's Overview: Purpose

Speaker 1

A lot of people rehearse in front of a mirror. I know for myself. I used to Google a lot before an interview to see questions that would be asked. You know you have your cliche questions such as where do you see yourself in five years I know last episode we spoke about that or what are your weaknesses? And you know certain questions. But interviewing there is an art to it, there is a secret to it, and today we will be discussing and we'll share with you what we know and what we've seen.

Speaker 2

Okay, so let's get started. We have what's called the six P's of interviewing. Yes, yes, we do so what is the first P?

Speaker 1

So our first P is purpose, purpose. The word purpose can mean many things. What is your purpose for this interview?

Speaker 2

What are you trying to achieve?

Speaker 1

What are?

Speaker 2

you trying to achieve. Well, we know you want the job, that's your purpose, but what is your reason for even showing up for this particular interview?

Speaker 1

Right and I feel like, with your purpose, you can tie your purpose into your interview and let the employer know what am I looking for and what I have to offer you. This is my purpose, because my purpose can be different from the next candidate, so it's a way for you to also show that you're standing out. My purpose is to be part of this team because X, y and Z.

Speaker 2

And be honest with yourself. I mean, like we discussed before, nursing is a second and third career for me. So you know, and it doesn't have to necessarily be nursing, no matter what job you're going for, some people are there because they want more money, they want a bigger salary. Some people's purpose is to climb the ladder, you know, for lack of a better expression to advance their careers. Some people's purpose is, you know, they have other obligations that this job will allow them to do, like freedom to do something else. Find your purpose, find your reason for securing this position. For securing this position.

Speaker 1

And I think that your purpose and, like Farrah said, if you are honest with yourself, it's going to reflect in the interview. If you're someone, I'm going for this position because it brings me more money, the energy that you're going to portray will show it. But if it's someone who wants this position to make a change at a bigger scale, or this position is something that you really really want, it will show also in your interview by showcasing your purpose. My purpose here is to bring what I have to this group and exceed expectations and bring changes at a higher level.

Preparation: Starting Before You Apply

Speaker 1

And apply the skills that you learned in school Right In your trade, which brings us to the next B, and the next B is preparation.

Speaker 2

Preparation.

Speaker 1

Preparation starts before you find that position that you're interested in. Way before, Way before, it's like you're getting yourself ready for a marathon. You don't know where it's going to be, when it's going to be, how long it's going to be. However, you know that you have the stamina for it. You know that you've trained so well that you can endure all. You know the number of miles that you have to go. So this is where we say preparation.

Speaker 2

Yeah, to be more specific, like Jennifer said, as soon as you apply for a position or you know you're in the exploration phase and you're sending out applications some jobs appeal to you, some don't and let's say you see two or three positions and you send out your resume for the position. You need to start preparing as soon as that resume goes out. Because I'll give you an example.

Speaker 2

A couple of weeks ago a position a part-time position piqued my interest in education and I sent out my resume, expecting these people to just put it in a pile and not call me or call me in a couple of months. So let's say I sent the resume out on a Monday and two days later they sent me an email asking me if I would be willing to interview. In two days I literally had less than 48 hours to prepare, so I had to do cram. You know what the job entails, what the job description is, more about the institution, because I didn't know what they were going to ask, and usually they'll ask well, what do you know about this organization and what do you know about this institution? What do you know about the job? What have you learned about this job already? What do you know. So as soon as you start applying for those positions, it's preparation time.

Speaker 1

I remember myself when I was a new grad. I applied to different jobs and first of all I'll get to the presentation part. But you know I was very nervous because I hadn't gone to an interview process as formal as this one in the hospital. So I didn't know who I was. I didn't know myself, I just was basing it on. This is my GPA. This is what I did, but then, as I began to grow into my career, I realized that it needs to be.

Speaker 1

It's more than just your GPA at a school you went to. It's about what have you done in your character, how are you aligned with the values of the institution, how are you aligned with the profession and that's what really employers are looking for. As a grad student or as a nursing student, that you're eventually going to work as a nurse, start building your resume simply by community service that makes you stand out from other students, or being a part of a committee in your school that shows leadership and engagement. And internships, and internships. For sure, if you know, while you're in school, you're in the health care field and you have experience. Based on that, you can shine, outshine specific examples that are only personal to you and not any other candidates, can make you stand out. So the preparation it doesn't only start with, like your resume, making sure that your resume is in order, but also showcasing all these little details that makes you unique about someone.

Speaker 2

Yeah. And learning keywords about the position Correct, where you know when you're at the interview you don't just sound like a general candidate, but one that actually did their research about the position. And I'll go back to the example. Like, when I was at the interview for the position, I taught the interviewers some things that they didn't know, for example, how old the school was, how many people it serves in the community, what their specialty majors were some of the things that they themselves didn't know. So they realized, oh yeah, she did her research, yeah.

Speaker 1

And also, what I find helpful is, if you know those type of questions that the interviewer is asking, try to understand exactly why they're asking it. I mean, I know sometimes it's like specific questions you'll encounter over and over and over again. But tell yourself why these people asking those questions that I know they're going to ask me either way, and how can I bank on that to, like, make myself shine? So that's gonna require for you to know yourself also in what your weaknesses are and your strength. That's why that question is very important. This is where you can shine. Anything after that for preparation, or should we move on to the next?

Speaker 2

B. Let's see. I think you pretty much covered it. Just to wrap up back to the, the preparation, especially for nursing positions. This may apply for any field, but with nursing positions, try to do a little bit of research in whatever area that you're going to be working Okay, like, for example, if you're going to be working with a lot of IVs, a lot of tubing, a lot of access ports, et cetera try to learn as much as you can about that particular area so that again, you can stand out. Even if you're not experienced, at least you researched that particular area, right.

Speaker 1

And you know, going back to preparation, I remember, like my first couple of interviews after nursing school, I would brush up on my med class. I would brush up on, like diagnosis and things like that, thinking that they want to know what I know, they want to see. But it's more than that. It's not about your skills at the end of the day, because I always tell people you can teach skills, but you cannot teach personality, you cannot teach work ethic. This is where, like, you need to stand out and prepare yourself for that interview. All right, so next presentation.

Speaker 2

Presentation.

Speaker 1

Where do you think presentation starts from?

Speaker 2

Be more specific.

Speaker 1

Okay, so we're talking about presentation for an interview. Where is presentation important for the candidate? Where do you think it starts from? From the time you meet the employer, the potential employer, or at what point can we say presentation is important?

Speaker 2

basically, as early as possible.

Speaker 1

I would say yeah, Basically, as early as possible.

Speaker 2

I would say yeah, I think that presentation starts with your resume, because there must be something in your resume that will gauge their interest or pique their interest for them to take you off that pile and put it to the side. I've heard that you know, back in the day before technology and AI and computers and everything, people actually used to read resumes. I'm in a position now where we do a lot of interviewing and a lot of resumes get submitted but ultimately the interviewer only ends up with five or six. At most A thousand people may submit their resumes. The computer scans certain resumes before it even lands in the lap of the interviewer. So, like Jen said, if that resume doesn't stand out, it has grammatical errors or poor writing or poor lettering, it's too long, it's not long enough, it's disorganized.

Speaker 1

I think that the length may not be an issue because, for example, my resume is three pages long, because these are all things that are pertinent to if I were to apply for a position, so I can't limit myself or the things that I have done to showcase my value because of your resume. Quote unquote should be one to two pages.

Speaker 2

Well, a resume, a three page resume, for someone with nursing experience who's been in the field, it's valid. Yeah, I'm not talking about that. No, I hear you. I hear you, but I mean, like, like you know, some people have submitted resumes and they're not resumes, they're portfolios.

Speaker 1

No, I know, I know. I know Because, like honestly, before I thought that I had to limit myself to one page until a mentor told me no, like you can have a nine page resume because those are things that that you have done and that shows you know how valuable you are.

Speaker 1

You can't just reframe yourself and put it into one page. Yeah, either way, your resume should be concise, precise, not repetitive, not repetitive, very professional. And let me tell you something you're not going to put. Let's say you're, you're in the field for like four or five years and you're applying for a new position. You're not gonna put that you used to work at a fast food restaurant and you know like 10 years from then, when you were in high school, and now it's like. These are things that are not relevant and if you do put it, it's okay, but you need to show or say why it's on the resume. You need to link it with something. Anything that you have on your resume should be an answer to your interview.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and an example of that would be okay. I recently helped someone prepare their resume. I recently helped someone prepare their resume and this position that they're applying for is relatively a new position, a new area, where on their resume, yes, they put that you know they were recently working somewhere else, which is not relevant to what they're applying for. However, I think it was important to put that, because not only did it show that the person was employed, but this person was in this position for over 10 years, so it showed dedication, exactly, it showed consistency and dedication to the job. So, even if it's not important, you don't want a lot of gaps. You don't want to put you know, especially in the healthcare field, they don't like a lot of gaps of them.

Speaker 1

And if you do have gaps, be sure to speak on it. I have this method for interviews. I like to front load my answers. I researched the role and everything and I know and I have an idea of what they're going to ask or they may not ask, or I want them to know about me. I front load everything. If they ask me a question, I try to tie it a little bit more to let them know and sometimes they're like what else I was going to ask? You already answered that To show the person like not only are you one step ahead, but you know yourself very well and you know who you are.

Speaker 2

So I'm telling you about myself. I find that very effective. Yeah, so if you do need help, you know, don't be afraid to ask or seek help, because you want the resume to stand out among the thousand and thousand other candidates that are going for the same position, especially nowadays. You know, for the same position, especially nowadays, you know there's going to be a lot of competition out in the job field.

Speaker 1

Right, and it's good to put your grades or the school you went to, but make sure you put also skills that you've acquired on the field and be comfortable to speak on it, and things like that.

Speaker 2

Yeah, In terms of nursing documentation skills, communication skills and documentation skills are very important to stand up.

Speaker 1

All right, we're going to the third P presentation. Oh boy, okay.

Speaker 2

And we're not talking about the resume, we're talking about yourself.

Presentation: Making the Right First Impression

Speaker 1

Like this is where, like to me, you know I love interviews, I love programming people for interviews. I love interviewing people because I think, like this is where you get to know the person. Like you are present. I'm going back to my first interview, my first job. So I've always been a natural girl, like my hair has always been natural.

Speaker 1

Even before, natural was a thing where everybody went from relaxing their hair to not like having curls and things like that. But back in 2011 or so, it was still not something that was so. The movement hadn't gone to that peak, hit that peak. I'm getting ready to go get for my interview and my hair was something that was worrisome to me. I was like, okay, I can't get it into a fro, I don't want to braid it, I don't want to like, let me just straighten it instead and put it in a ponytail because there's this and that. So all those were coming on my mind Fast forward to like a couple of years ago, went for an interview and I had braids in my hair, and to see how the different like in the evolution of not only myself but society, it's like wow. But going back to what we were saying yeah, the presentation starts with you entering that room yes, you want to be clean.

Speaker 2

Clean, you want to smell good, but not, yeah, you want to smell neutral. Yeah, you know, because you don't want to kill the interviewer with too much perfume or too much cologne, or you know. Yes, okay, it's great that you practice herbal medicine and but that may not go over well with the, you know, with the interviewer, especially if they have allergies. So you want to watch how you smell. You want to watch how you smell. You want to watch how you dress. Wear a nice neutral color. You don't have to come in a tuxedo or anything like that. But you want to look professional. You want to present yourself. Nails, clean, hair, presented well. You're representing the organization even before you get hired for the job.

Speaker 2

Presentation is important, I mean especially in nursing. I've seen nurses show up for interviews with little talons on their hands. You know, and seriously, you're going to be providing patient care and the length of your nails is extremely, extremely important. So you know, you don't want to be too flashy with the neon color or the makeup. Yeah, Overly made up and oh and, you're wearing dark shades. They can't see your eyes. Yeah, Just you know, present yourself better to look like a banker or somebody who came to do your taxes.

Speaker 1

Then yeah, and just know that. Just just know that you're going on a date. Ok, you're going on a date. You don't know the person, they don't know you. There's a little butterflies. You want to put your first, your best foot forward. You want to be on time. Oh yes, on time is late. Early is on time. Late is a no-go. Forget about it. Okay, because if you're showing up to an interview and you're late, I don't care if it's one minute late. I mean this, is you telling me? You're going to be late all the time because you're late for the most important one, which is our interaction?

Speaker 2

So try to be outside in the waiting room waiting for the interviewer to call you, rather than rushing to get to the interview and having to report late.

Speaker 1

So now you present yourself, you get into the interview room or wherever they're receiving you eye contact, smile, you shake hands. If they reach out to you to shake your hand, you shake hands, nice, firm, and you wait for direction. You sit down and make sure you have resumes with you. I know everybody's going to print their resumes because they don't need your paper. But make sure you have resume and with resume paper not just a copy Invest, get a little folder, bring it and even though you see they have your resume, make a slight comment and say oh oh, I see you already have my resume. I have extra copies. Should anyone want one, it doesn't matter, they won't know you have it unless you say something. But even though they have it, you're going to bring it to make an impression. It's almost like a little mind game yeah, and bring it.

Speaker 1

Bring your own pen and paper to take notes right on interview, if you need to right, you can take notes because you're also interviewing the company that you would like to work at. So that's why sometimes, like I may be interviewing someone and it's flowing, it's going very well, and I like the person, and when I say do you have any questions for me? There's no questions, I really hurt my heart because I'm like how could you not have questions? When you're interested, there must be some question. Or they say, oh, you answered everything. No, that's just generic. I want to hear something that has to do with you, something that's personal to you.

Speaker 2

You're going to be there for 40 hours a week and if you were buying a house, you'd have tons of questions for the realtor, right? So if you were having a procedure, you'd have tons of questions for the doctor before you go under the knife. So just look at it like that. This is something that's geared towards your livelihood. That's going to be paying your bills. You're going to be paying your bills. You're going to be spending a lot of time with that. You're going to have a work family. So you need to prepare to ask where am I going to be? What am I going to be expected to do? What does this position entail, et cetera, et cetera. So prepare yourself before you walk into that interview and ace it.

Posture: Mastering Nonverbal Communication

Speaker 1

Right. So our next P is posture. Posture is kind of intertwined with presentation. This is all about nonverbal communication. It's okay to be nervous and it's okay to let the interviewer or the interview panel know that I'm nervous. It's okay to pause when they ask you questions and say, oh, that's a great question. Let the interviewer or the interview panel know that I'm nervous. It's okay to pause when they ask you questions and say, oh, that's a great question. Let me think about it. Oh, I see where you're coming from. You know what? That's such an interesting question. Can I return back to that? Because, wow, no one has ever asked me this question before. Like you know, things like that. Like I said, eye contact is a good thing, things like that. Like I said, eye contact is a good thing.

Speaker 1

You show when you're speaking about the facility or the organization you want to work at, you want to show them that you're interested. You want to show passion. This is where you smile a little bit more. You bring the hand gestures, you kind of tie it to an event, a personal event that happened in your life. Like if I tell you why do you want to work here, you can't just say because I've always wanted to work in a field like this. No, why do I want to work here? This hospital either saved my life or I looked on the internet and I saw all the amazing benefits, especially how I can grow in this hospital, and I've heard that they affiliated with community work for population that needs and stuff like that.

Speaker 2

So that's what you need to tie it to. Yeah, and in the physical sense, posturing is important too. You don't want to cross your arms too much, cross your legs too much, do too much tapping on the desk, you know, rolling your eyes, rolling your eyes, looking sideways. Nonverbal communication can be just as important as verbal communication.

Speaker 1

Not even making eye contact.

Speaker 2

Definitely you know, or just you know, superficial. You don't want to come off as fake, as superficial, like uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, just saying uh-huh, uh-huh and not really understanding what's being said to you or what's being asked of you.

Speaker 1

Another thing with posture I would say is you have to make eye contact. Let's say there's more than one person doing the interview. You have to connect everybody, every one of them. You can't just look at the, let's say, the manager or the supervisor. If staff are involved, everybody needs to be in this conversation. So you go around with your eyes and engage people. That's how you're going to stand out.

Speaker 1

You have to know, like I don't know how many candidates this is my mentality when I'm going into a job interview. I don't know how many candidates have applied for this position. I don't know how many candidates made it into this room to represent themselves. I don't care how many candidates have posted for this position, but I know I'm the best candidate for this job and I go in thinking that and find leverage to just make myself stand out from the rest of the candidates.

Speaker 1

If you go with that attitude, you're not cocky, you're just confident and you know what you have to bring to the table, based on the job, role and description. It's your job. All you have to do is formulate it in a certain way, put it in a nice package to sell yourself. Otherwise they won't know. They'll look at your paper and your resume. This person seems to have experience. I have hired people with no experience, but personality, skills, work ethic was great. So experience is great because we don't have to train too much, but at the end of the day, it's not the most important thing.

Speaker 2

So yeah, just to wrap up posturing be sincere, be confident and sit upright, Don't slump, and do your thing and you'll do great.

Speaker 1

So, speaking of sincere one thing, I'll give you a tip how to show transparency and how to be sincere. One I said before it's okay to be nervous and to say I'm so sorry. I'm a little nervous right now because I'm very excited for the opportunity, and blah, blah, blah Right. The second one is when they ask you to give an example, be as specific as you can be. Don't generalize, because generalizing shows that. Are you really telling that? How do you not have a specific answer for this question? Tell me how you went above and beyond for a patient. You should have thousands of examples because, as nurses, we go above and beyond for patients every day. You can't tell me oh, you know, I know, be specific. How did you, you know, resolve a conflict with a coworker? What happened and what did you do? You can't tell me oh, you know, like I, never really get into a conflict with no, you need to be vulnerable. Never really get into a conflict with no, you need to be vulnerable. You need to explain it in a way that sells yourself.

Speaker 2

Yes, so that's really important. How did you go above and beyond for a patient? Here's an example I had a patient a couple of weeks ago that I went to see, and this patient cannot walk, is not ambulatory, and he was really upset, didn't want to talk to anyone, didn't want anyone interviewing him, didn't want anyone touching him, and the reason for that is because someone stole his cane. Someone stole his cane upon coming into the hospital and he wanted a new cane and someone took his cane. So what I did is the next day I went to the Salvation Army store and I bought him a cane and then bought it to him the next morning and he did a 180. As soon as he got that cane. He was nice, he let people care for him, he let people medicate him, he let people talk to him, and all we had to do is get him a cane. So those are examples.

Speaker 1

Go above and beyond this is a perfect example of going above and beyond, because it paints a clear picture of the character of the person you are. You went above and beyond by going to buy a cane for someone out of your own money, past work hours For a patient you don't even know, just to kind of bring some resolution for them and to ensure that the treatment goes appropriately and accordingly. So me as an interviewer and I'm hearing all of this it makes me think, wow, this is, these are the aspects of nursing. That makes a nurse a nurse. I would love to to have this candidate, because here is a clear, specific example, not just saying, oh, I go above and beyond for my patients by ensuring that I give them their meds on time or I walk them, you know, so that they don't have blood clots. No, that's not, that's generalized. That's part of your role.

Professionalism: Beyond the Interview Room

Speaker 1

Going above and beyond is I see this patient who's was having a really bad day. I, you know, created in their bed bound. I washed their hair with a bucket, even though we don't have blah, blah, blah. I brought a smile to her face, like things like that. To be extremely specific, we professionalism the next b. We go back to how you present yourself and everything. One thing I'll say with professionalism just be careful with what you put on your social media. Yes, what's online? I know there's a lot of inspired um influencers and sometimes there's competition where you may lose yourself because you want to grab people's attention. Just be careful on that aspect of things.

Speaker 2

You will be doxxed even before you step into that room, especially if they're considering you as a candidate. Trust me, you will be doxxed. Be extremely, extremely careful. You know people have this misconception. Well, what I do outside of job is my own business and it's nobody's business. It doesn't reflect on the job Absolutely not, Especially, especially in health care. Especially in health care, what you do 24-7 has an extreme and direct influence on the company that you work and you represent. How many of us see you on social media all the time? This person was found out because they were rude to a customer at a restaurant. Boom, they lost their business or they lost their job. So keep it professional at work and outside of work Correct, because you're representing the organization.

Speaker 1

And another thing too I want to talk about professionalism. I want to tie in professionalism. And when I said, even before you walk into that room, you're interviewing for the job, just know that, as big as nursing is and has many options or field specialties that you have, it's also a very, very small profession because everybody knows each other some way somehow and you'd be surprised how whatever you may do may come back to haunt you at another place. So always ensure that you are interviewing every day, that you clock in and clock out every day that you're interviewing, because at the end of the day, if you're leaving a company and going to another one, or you're leaving a unit and going to a different unit, or even the hospital to go to another hospital.

Post-Interview: Following Up Effectively

Speaker 1

Yeah, so, whatever job you're going to, just know that they will reach out to your former employer and, ethically, they can't lie, they have to tell the truth. So always know that every day you're interviewing for the next position that you would want. So now we've talked about all these things. We want to hear your questions, we want to hear your comments, we want to hear your input, but we're we still have one p to go. Yes, and this is the post interview post interview.

Speaker 2

That's the final and important p. So a lot of people go to interviews and they don't follow up. Especially if it's a job that you want, don't be afraid to follow up. Follow up with an email or a brief message, or even at the interview. You can ask directly. You know, I know you have other candidates to consider. When shall I expect to hear something? Just put it out there.

Speaker 1

Yeah, what I like to do is some interviewer will offer their card, their business cards or their you know their email address, should you want to connect later. I don't even give people the opportunity to offer me anything. I ask because that shows that you want a follow-up. Let's say you're done asking all your questions and you have nothing left. You just say thank you for your time Before I leave. Do you have a contact number or an email in case I have more questions that I could send you, even though you know you don't have any more questions, because you're going to need that email address to send a message to thank them for their time in that I'm still waiting to hear back from you. Should whenever. So that shows also professionalism and shows that an interest, an interest, interest in the job. One time I didn't know, I interviewed and for a position and you, and the next day someone came to me and was like, did you send a thank you email? And I was like no, you have to send a thank you email and all these things. You're going to learn it on the field.

Speaker 1

I remember the first time I applied for way, way, way, way before to become an assistant manager, I bombed, I cried. I didn't know why I bombed. I was like I was thinking like my bedside experience, I can bring it to leadership. It would be the same. I'm this awesome nurse, bedside nurse and those all the things. I know how these things are in.

Speaker 1

And when it came to like structural questions, organizational questions, like at a bigger scale, I bombed because I didn't know what the role was. I knew that it was a leadership role and I thought I could do it, but I didn't know really what it was about. So I cried and even though I knew in the bottom of my heart I would be the best candidate, I didn't know how to sell myself. So what I did? I went back to the person who interviewed me and I said thank you so much for giving me this time, but you know I was a learning opportunity. Can you give me some feedback as to why I didn't get the position and how? You know I would have been better? You know if I knew certain things. And she went over the questions with me and she told me exactly. And a couple of years later, best believe I got that job Right Because I went back to, you know, to do my research to kind of see you know yeah.

Speaker 2

Follow up is important.

Speaker 1

Anything else you want to add?

Episode Wrap-Up and Listener Feedback

Speaker 2

No, ma'am. So just to wrap it up, remember these six P's of interviewing. Yeah, and you'll do great.

Speaker 1

And if you have any questions for us, let us know. I wanted to thank everyone who so far have been listening. Yeah, we've been live for about less than a month and so far, between the two episodes that we have posted, we have 95 followers. Yes, I mean 95 downloads. We have about three reviews on Spotify. Three people liked it, one comment on one of our videos. We have about 20-something followers on IG and, even though for some people it may be small numbers, for us it's a victory and we are so excited that we're touching lives. People are reaching out to us personally to let us know how impactful our little project has been in their lives and how beneficial this would be for nursing students, how this could have helped them in the long run, even as like brand new nurses or in their careers. So we really, really, really appreciate it.

Speaker 2

Yeah, we're in a position now where you know, like Jen said, we want to do for you what we wish other people had done for us.

Speaker 1

We want to do for you what we wish other people had done for us. Well, that's all we have for you today. So you go out there, you get ready, soldier, get that job that you want, walk into that room with conviction, put your head up high in the sky and say I am here to take what's mine, yes, in a professional way, of course. You're hired. You're hired. Let's just flip it All right. So thank you guys for joining. We love you and we hope you've enjoyed this Listen. Very costly Goodbye.

Speaker 2

Bye-bye.