Ghostly Giggles And Psychic Insights: Haunted House Hilarity With Lee And April

Hosts April DeMille and Lee Walczak host a lighter episode this week using AI-generated “would you survive a haunted house?” prompts, taking turns answering spooky scenarios: hearing a friend’s voice, a warning child spirit, a phantom cat, a ghost giving 10 seconds to leave, locked or hidden rooms, a possessed realtor, footsteps with no upstairs, friends proposing a seance, predictive texts, and choices about portals, hotels, proof of reincarnation, and spirits offering future answers. They discuss boundaries, curiosity, urgency cues, and ethics, then end with rapid-fire questions (cryptids, cemeteries vs hospitals, spirit box vs Ouija, mediums in TV, unwanted abilities), and close by inviting listeners to book readings with either host.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 1:00

Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of Own Your Essence Podcast, where we get to have deep transformational conversations with some of our favorite people. We are your host, April DeMille. And yay! Lee got to come back on with us today. Woohoo! So fun. For those of you that are seeking intuitive insight, I provide private psychic medium readings. These sessions are designed to bring clarity and direction across areas like money, career, relationships, family dynamics, spiritual evolution, and emotional well-being. If you are ready for a deeper, more personalized support, I offer private one-on-one coaching for those navigating grief, trauma, and the complexities of toxic relationship recovery. You can schedule a discovery call using the links provided to ensure it's a comfortable fit. You'll find all booking links in the show notes of every episode. And as always, thanks for tuning in. So you guys, we again, I've reached a point where I'm kind of like, let's do something different. Because some of these conversations can be very heavy sometimes. And so I'm like, let's break up the monotony and have some fun with Lee because he and I tend to have some fun sometimes. So um, so Lee, do you want to tell them a little bit about what we've decided to do today?

SPEAKER_01 2:32

Sure. Um, so we have prompted AI to give us uh different questions to ask each other about scenarios involving surviving a haunted house uh and what we would do in this scenario. So um so this should be interesting for sure.

SPEAKER_00 2:51

Yeah, so we're gonna be on our phones a lot because we're gonna be scrolling down these lists, asking each other questions. I don't know what questions he's gonna ask me. He doesn't know what questions I'm gonna ask him. We're just scouring the list and seeing what pops up. And so this should be fun times.

SPEAKER_03 3:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:10

Should be fun times. Very excited about this. Um, so you guys just hang here. Hopefully, there's lots of laps and lots of eye rolls and all the things. So um, so here we go. Lee, do you want to get started?

SPEAKER_01 3:28

Um, yeah, do you want me to ask you?

SPEAKER_00 3:30

Yeah, you can just go ahead and get started if you want to do that.

SPEAKER_01 3:34

All right. I'm gonna start off with a relatively simple one. I feel like some of these, like I can already imagine your answer to, but we'll see. But this is relatively simple, maybe in the realm of has already happened to you. But um, this one's called the voice. And it says, You hear your best friend calling your name from upstairs, but you know for a fact they're not in the house. Do you answer? Or I'm gonna follow that with do you answer or what do you do?

SPEAKER_00 4:02

So it's my best friend's voice upstairs.

SPEAKER_01 4:05

Yeah, like we're in the house. But they're not in the house. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:09

Okay. What I would what I would think is after investigating and making sure it is indeed my best friend's voice, I would immediately call her on the phone because I would think something's wrong with her. I would be like, oh my God, she's calling me. She like, I would literally be like, oh my God, I have to check and make sure she's okay. That's immediately what I would do.

SPEAKER_01 4:32

That makes sense, actually. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:34

Okay. That that would be my immediate like knee-jerk reaction, is I'd be like, Where's my phone? I've got to call Kelly. I gotta make sure she's alive. Like, I'd be like, There's an emergency, what's happening? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:45

That makes sense, actually. I didn't even connect that for some reason, but yeah, okay, yeah, I I can see that. Like actually calling making sure, like, are you good? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:54

It would kind of be like if I had a dream or something too. I'd be like waking up and be like, dude, you good? Like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_01 5:02

Okay, uh that's a reasonable answer. I feel that's yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:07

So I like that one. That's a good one. I didn't even see that on the list. What the fuck? You got that on the list? I didn't get that on mine.

SPEAKER_01 5:15

That's a same thing.

SPEAKER_00 5:17

There's some bias already happening here.

SPEAKER_01 5:20

I know.

SPEAKER_00 5:21

Okay, so this is Would You Survive a Haunted House, right? So that's kind of our theme, like haunted, eerie, kind of weird stuff. So you wake up at 3:03. There's a little girl standing in your doorway. She says, I wouldn't go downstairs if I were you. What do you do?

SPEAKER_01 5:45

Oh god. Um, I do not want a little girl spirit standing at my door when I wake up. Um, I I don't think I'm gonna go downstairs, to be honest. I, you know, I feel like I need to like heed that warning um and then maybe regroup and you know, figure it out for myself. But um I would probably tell her thanks and go away, please. And also that I'm not going downstairs. Take some time.

SPEAKER_00 6:14

You'd be like, okay, I'll take your word for it. I'm good.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

If a little girl shows up and is like, don't go downstairs, I'm like, okay, yeah, we're not going downstairs.

SPEAKER_02 6:24

You're like, all right, your wish is my command.

SPEAKER_01 6:27

That would be that would be a lot.

SPEAKER_00 6:29

Would you like cover your head with the blankets and be like, holy fuck, what just happened?

SPEAKER_01 6:34

I I don't I probably would be like what the hell just happened for sure. You know, like a little girl just stinning at the door at 3 a.m. after I wake up. Um, that would be that would be a lot. I tell those.

SPEAKER_00 6:46

Do you feel like you'd be scared from something like that? Would that be like, oh damn, I need some sage? Like, what's happening?

SPEAKER_01 6:54

Yeah, I think I'd be freaked out for sure. Yeah. I I tell them specifically like not to do that because it freaks me out. Like, I don't want to see full body things in the middle of the night or anything like that. But uh, I mean, if she was here to warn me like of something potentially dangerous, like cool, thank you. But also, I don't know, maybe come as like a beam of light, you know, and not a little strange girl in my doorway at 3 a.m.

SPEAKER_00 7:17

Like, you're like, I've seen too many fucking horror movies for it to come like this.

SPEAKER_01 7:21

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, that's so okay. So that'll freak me out, but yeah. Yeah, that's so funny. Um that one was interesting. Um, I like this one. I know my answer for this one, but I'm kind of curious what yours is. Okay. Um, this is called the Phantom Cat, and it says a cat keeps appearing and disappearing throughout the house, always staring towards the same closed off room. Do you go and investigate?

SPEAKER_00 7:51

Oh, fuck yes, I'm going in there. Absolutely. And if it's like on if it's on lockdown, I'm getting in there, bitch. I'm getting in there. Oh, yeah. I'm gonna go see what this cat's all about. Like, and honestly, you know what I would think? I would think that the cat's body is like in that room somehow. Like maybe it's like crawled up under the house, and you know, or died or something. There's there, that's my immediate thought is like, okay, his body's either in the wall, or that was his favorite room to hang out if he lived with a family here. There, there would be some sort of connection in my mind that, but yeah, I'm going in that fucking room, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 8:30

Yeah, I think I might have to too. Yeah, yeah, you would too. I think so. I think uh cats cats are okay, you know. Cats are funny like that. Cats are very funny like that, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:41

Yeah, so I get that. Gotta go in.

SPEAKER_00 8:45

Okay. I like this one. Well, there's two here, but and I like them both. But this one's a ghost appears and says, You have exactly 10 seconds to leave this house. Do you leave or do you ask questions?

SPEAKER_01 9:00

Oh god, that's alarming, number one. Um I guess it would depend on what feeling I got from like the go. I feel like if they were really trying to warn me about something like potentially dangerous, like they have to show up in a way that's not gonna like completely freak me out because otherwise I'm probably gonna ask questions. Like, um, excuse me, like, who are you? You know, like um, so I don't they they'd have to do it right if it was really a danger thing. So if I felt like that was the case, then yeah, I would probably leave. Um if not, then I might ask questions. I might have to get curious.

SPEAKER_00 9:39

So that's funny that you said that because when I think about it, like how I'd handle that, it also is based on how it's presented, right? So if there's not like a really sense of urgency that follows with it, like something dangerous is about to happen, get the fuck out, then I'm gonna be like, whatever. Yeah, get bent, get bent while I ask you 20 questions because I'm too cozy right now to go somewhere. So I'm I'm the same way. I there'd have to be the urgency. And typically when I get urgency, what happens is it'll get louder and louder and louder till I can't ignore it, and then I'm like, son of a bitch, okay, fine.

SPEAKER_01 10:18

Yeah, like yeah. I think I think with me too, they they can't just give me a 10-second warning because I'm the same way where it has to build a little bit. Yeah, so like if you want me out in 10 seconds, pre-plan that you're gonna at least come in like 10 minutes earlier.

SPEAKER_00 10:35

Be proactive and tell me two days prior, because bitch, that's gonna take a while.

SPEAKER_01 10:39

Yeah, 100%. Like it has to build, so yeah, don't come in just 10 seconds and be like, you gotta get out.

SPEAKER_00 10:45

I'd be like, Yeah, you're gonna have to plant that seed like several days in advance. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 10:51

100%. Um yeah, that's so good. I like that one. That was that was that was good. Um, I kind of like this one just because it feels a bit more mysterious. Okay, but this one's called the locked room. I don't know, it it feels a little similar to the cat one, but not exactly. But it says a room remains locked no matter what, okay, but one day it's standing open. Do you go inside? Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 11:19

You go straight in that bitch, and I'm probably gonna throw a fit and be like, why today and never before, fuckers? Like, what the hell? Yeah, like I I'm absolutely going in there.

SPEAKER_01 11:30

Yeah, I don't I don't know what I would do in that one. I might be like, I don't know, that's been locked, you know.

SPEAKER_00 11:36

Like that was kind of locked on purpose. Maybe I'll just close the door and act like this never happened.

SPEAKER_01 11:42

Yeah, just pretend this wasn't a thing.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

Oh no, I'd be like, cool. Now I'm gonna go in the room and take up residence. Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_01 11:50

Yeah, you're gonna like make your way and take up space. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:55

Yeah, that's so funny. Oh, okay. Hold on, let me look on here. Okay, one second. Speaking of locked rooms, I'm gonna go with this one. Actually, I wasn't even gonna ask this one, but this seems appropriate. You find a hidden room behind a wall, and upon getting into that room, there's a rocking chair that's already rocking. What do you do?

SPEAKER_01 12:26

I'd probably ask who's there, to be honest.

SPEAKER_00 12:31

Yeah. Oh no, we're doing that again. What? Who's there? Who's there?

SPEAKER_01 12:37

Yeah. What? Yeah, I th I would be curious. I think as long as I didn't get like an overwhelming sense of like density or anything, you know, where it was like gotta go the opposite way. Yeah, uh, I think I'd be curious about like who's who's in the chair, and I would probably ask in my head and see if they wanted to communicate. I think. I think I'd be a little startled at first if I just see a right, but like I think my curiosity would be like, well, who is it?

SPEAKER_00 13:06

You know, right. It'd be like, okay, if you're sitting here rocking in the chair, clearly you wanna you want to get my attention. So what what's let's do that?

SPEAKER_02 13:16

Yeah, I think I would ask.

SPEAKER_03 13:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:20

I like that one though. All right. So I like this one. This one's it's kind of campy, but uh the possessed realtor. Uh so the realtor. Yeah. The realtor selling the haunted house suddenly begins speaking in a different voice. Do you keep touring?

SPEAKER_00 13:53

You know, I think that depends on what that voice is and what it's saying.

SPEAKER_01 14:02

Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:04

And and the delivery, right? Like if there's some sort of urgency or aggression or there's something that feels really off, then I'm gonna be like, hey, have fun, bye, great, great time. Like, and also, do you need anything? Do you want me to say you really quick, like, let's get out of here? I'd actually probably be trying to pull the person out of there, but like, um, yeah, so I think it really depends if it's just like channeling something, it just depends on whether it's channeling something open and welcome, or if it's like channeling something that feels really off and doesn't sit well at the moment.

SPEAKER_01 14:44

I like that. Yeah, I I agree with that actually. I think I would initially be startled, but yeah, it definitely catch me off guard.

SPEAKER_00 14:52

I'd be like, hey, you do you have a fever? Are you contagious? I need to know these things right now.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

Yeah. 100%, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:01

Yeah. Uh okay, I like this one. This one's fun. And I'm pretty sure I know what your answer would be. So uh you hear footsteps running upstairs, but you don't have an upstairs now.

SPEAKER_01 15:16

What depends on my mood, to be honest. Like if I'm in bed and I'm trying to sleep and something like that happens, honestly, I'm probably gonna be like, go away. You know what I mean? Like just go away. I might do that in general anyway. It depends on my mood. Like, if I really felt like someone was trying to get my attention where it was like I want to speak sort of feeling, that I might lean into that and be like, okay, well, what do you want to say? Um, I would also think it's weird that I didn't have an upstairs and how they were making that happen. But I guess it depends on like the circumstance, because I have house rules and stuff too, you know, where it's like, don't wake me up when I'm sleeping, sort of thing, or if I'm relaxed or or whatever. But yeah, I don't know. If it was just kind of like happening when I was like in an open space to it and I was a bit more receptive, I'd probably be like, all right, well, if you're trying to get my attention, what's up? You know, right.

SPEAKER_00 16:14

And I would think that if there's footsteps running around the ceiling or something, it's clearly trying to get your attention.

SPEAKER_01 16:21

Yeah, yeah. My mind might go to like a raccoon or something at first. I'd be like, is that like a raccoon on the roof or you know, making weird noises?

SPEAKER_00 16:29

But yeah. If it was like definitely a raccoon definitely wouldn't have the kind of weight behind its footsteps to do that, so no, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:39

I think I'd probably logically try to feel it out for a sight at first, but you know. So I don't know, it depends. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:47

Yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 16:49

Yeah, that's interesting though. I hope that doesn't no one get any ideas.

SPEAKER_00 16:54

Um prank no pranksters allowed.

SPEAKER_01 16:59

Yeah, no, no pranksters allowed, exactly. Um, I'm kind of curious about this one. Okay. I feel like I know what my answer might be. Um this one's called the seance, and it says, your friends want to hold a seance, quote unquote, just for fun. Are you participating?

SPEAKER_00 17:28

I think that depends on what their idea of seance is, too. Because if they're like, hey, let's sit down and do a meditation and do some automatic writing and things like that, then yeah, I'm gonna participate. Yeah. But if it's more like let's get out the Ouija board and uh do things that have so much um energy already attached to it in a certain way, then I'm gonna be like, hey, you have fun with that and let me know if you need an exorcist in a couple weeks. Okay.

unknown 18:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:04

So like, you know, like so. I think it just really depends on what that idea of sounds is. But like, and then there's other people that are like, let's dance naked under the moonlight. True. Okay, yeah, cool. Um, I might do that. Um maybe. Uh, but but yeah, I don't, I guess that depends.

SPEAKER_01 18:26

It's a good way to approach it though. I think like what is your idea of a seance? Yeah, because if it's like the bleach board thing and all that, I'm probably not doing that.

SPEAKER_00 18:34

But um, and even if it's like people sitting around at a table holding hands with a crystal ball in the middle of it, I'd be like, fuck yeah, I'm down for that. Let's see what happens. I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna be a part of that circle. But it let again, you know, it just depends on like what kind of fear-based energy is already fed into that thought. Yeah, and and do I even want to tap into something that's already imprinted so heavily, you know.

SPEAKER_01 18:58

Yeah, good point. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:00

Yeah, so I like that. That's a great question, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 19:05

Yeah, I like that one.

SPEAKER_00 19:07

Okay. Let's see which one do I want to do. Okay, I like this one. A spirit offers you one answer to any question about your future, but you can never unhear it. What's your question?

SPEAKER_01 19:24

Oh, right?

SPEAKER_00 19:26

That one's complicated.

SPEAKER_01 19:28

That one's so complicated. There are a lot of there are a lot of layers about that.

SPEAKER_00 19:33

And also, how can you unhear something you've already heard anyway? Like, what that's true.

SPEAKER_01 19:38

It's so weird.

SPEAKER_00 19:39

It's a weird thing to say.

SPEAKER_01 19:41

I feel like you're gonna remember that anyway, but I honestly don't know that I would want to, I would have to sit with it because I don't know, I would even want to ask a question because then I would wonder if I get the answer to this question, does that then interfere with like how what's that?

SPEAKER_00 20:02

I was gonna say with like what you create or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 20:05

Yeah, like how I proceed on my journey, and then you know, is that gonna shift and change things in a certain way? Like, I don't know. I feel like there are things that I would probably want to ask, but then wouldn't know if I should, you know, where it's like, do I really actually want the answer to that question? Because again, is it gonna influence my path in any way? And then is the result maybe a change has been influenced, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know how that would work. Um yeah, I don't know. I would have to really sit with with that, I think, but I think I would actually ask, I would be tempted, but I don't I don't think I'd want to know.

SPEAKER_00 20:48

Well, and I think it depends on if we know how the accuracy rate of the spirit and stuff like that, too.

SPEAKER_01 20:55

True, yeah, true, and also more context, I guess, around to like, is this just gonna happen no matter what I do? Like, is this one of those things that my soul just signed up to experience somehow, somehow?

SPEAKER_00 21:08

Yeah, or is this sort of like kind of the way I took it is like it's something that's indefinite, right? And you can never unhear that part. So that's kind of the way I took it, but like I yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:22

I still don't know if I would want to know. Right. Like, I feel like it's kind of a burden if you know, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, because if it's not the answer that you want or that you're expecting, then that sits with you. And I feel like I would ruminate on it and I'd be like, oh my god, like you know, this is the idea.

SPEAKER_00 21:39

You can create all kinds of other well, you can spin out on it and create all kinds, there can be all kinds of hopelessness, depression, and other things that come with that, possibly. If it's like you said, not like something that your body was ready to integrate or mature enough to handle the answer for.

SPEAKER_01 22:10

Yeah, I mean, unless it was something that I don't know, like I framed it as like, what practitioner should I go to that would help, you know, accelerate my healing the most, or something, you know, like something like that, maybe, you know, but the other kind of like maybe heavier thing, I don't think I would want to want to know, you know. Yeah, okay. So yeah, I love that. I like that. That was that was interesting. That's a good one. All right, let me um let me look for one. Okay, I'm kind of interested. I don't know what I think your answer would be. So it says you're staying in a famously haunted hotel uh for one night, which I guess is kind of like a haunted house. Um do you actively investigate? Or do you lock the door and go to sleep?

SPEAKER_00 23:02

Okay, so that's a great question because there are two famously haunted like hotels that I plan on visiting this year just for the experience. Um, just for the experience of going and historic history and all the things. And I will not actively investigate. Um I'm going to be an experiencer, but I'm also not locking doors. I'm not, I'm not, I'm totally open to whatever that experience is going to be. Um, and it and because I have such good house rules, I'm not too worried about like uh being pushed or disrespected in any way. Um or anything like I guess anything that can be too, I don't know. I don't know what the word I'm looking for is because I have brain fog. And so that's fun. Um, but yeah, I think I think I'm kind of like, I'm not locking doors. I'm not going like protecting myself in some sort of way, like, oh, it's gonna be scary and whatever. But also I'm not investigating. I'm gonna go for the experience, have fun, check out the history, all the things. Now, what I would do though, and what I'm already considering doing is if they'd let me do a podcast episode from like one of the rooms or something just for fun, I would do that.

SPEAKER_01 24:27

That'd be cool.

SPEAKER_00 24:28

Wouldn't that be fun? That'd be fun. So I would do that. I'd put I'd go ahead and record an episode while I'm there.

SPEAKER_01 24:33

Okay, I like that. Yeah, like show up for the experience, not investigate though.

SPEAKER_00 24:39

Yeah, and if some spirit wants to talk to me, it will. Like, there's no, I don't have to, it is what it is.

SPEAKER_01 24:44

Yeah, yeah, if they want to talk to you, they're gonna try to find a way.

SPEAKER_00 24:47

So for sure. Even if that means I have the nudge to come visit that place. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'll follow that. Cool. I like that. Yeah, yeah. Okay, your question is I love this question, by the way. Okay, and I already know damn well what my answer would be, so this is fun. Okay, you can either spend one night in the world's most haunted asylum, or spend one week trapped in a house with your ex.

SPEAKER_01 26:12

Those are my options.

SPEAKER_00 26:13

Those are your two options, right? That's your two options. That's it. One or the other. It's a great question. It was a night in an asylum, you said no, no, not just any asylum. The world's most haunted asylum.

SPEAKER_03 26:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 26:38

Like the scariest, uber, creepiest one you could think of.

SPEAKER_01 26:44

I think I would probably have to pick the X, to be honest, and just oh my god. Yeah, just just hope that the the um space that we're in is is a lot bigger, and we can just kind of hang out on our separate ends of whatever.

SPEAKER_00 27:01

Separate ends of the house for a week. You're like, look, I didn't want to fucking do this. I didn't sign up for this shit, so just stay down there.

SPEAKER_01 27:10

Stay down there. Different rooms, different space. We don't really have to interact that much, you know.

SPEAKER_00 27:16

That's so funny.

SPEAKER_01 27:17

Yeah, I don't, I don't, I have no desire to be in uh the density, I guess, of a place that has so much attached to it like that. And I say attached in terms of like just emotion and energy and people's projections and like you know, uh residual things and and all that like that. Doesn't sound that doesn't sound like a good time to me. So yeah, I think I'd have to pick the X.

SPEAKER_00 27:44

That's fair. I mean that's a hard one, it really is. Um, I think I'd stay in the asylum.

SPEAKER_01 27:52

Yeah, yeah. I had a feeling you were gonna pick asylum, which also does make sense, you know.

SPEAKER_00 27:57

I can see it, but I'm uh I'm picking the asylum for sure. Um because there's nothing I think that's quite as damaging as uh the ex husband. So there's that. Uh so I'm like, yeah, I'll pick I'll I'll take the haunted, the world's most haunted place. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 28:19

Yeah, all right, fair.

SPEAKER_00 28:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:22

Um you're probably better about potential asylums, you know, haunted asylums than I am.

SPEAKER_00 28:28

So I don't know if I'm better about it, but like I think I'm I'm definitely more used to seeing the things and experiencing the things uh in in a way in a le at a level that you might not be.

SPEAKER_01 28:42

Um yeah, because I don't I don't do the visual stuff usually.

SPEAKER_00 28:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:47

So interesting though. Interesting question. The two options.

SPEAKER_00 28:51

Definitely interesting.

SPEAKER_01 28:54

Um, okay. I'm moving.

SPEAKER_00 28:58

Hold on. While you're I'm listening, but I'm also moving to a different list.

unknown 29:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 29:05

I'm like trying to actually make sense of this question. Maybe I'll just pick this other one, but um I'm gonna ask this question. I think I think I understand. I feel like personally, maybe I need more context, but I'm curious what you make out of it. Um, it says, you learn that the haunting is connected to a portal that could be closed permanently, but doing so requires you to spend one night alone in the most active room. Do you volunteer?

SPEAKER_00 29:37

I don't know if I volunteer, but I do it. Okay, yeah. I don't know if I God, I mean, like right away I go, okay, I close the portal, but in order to do that, I have to use all my energy and resources to stay there and kind of seal it, like seal the deal. Yeah, yeah, I do it. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:00

Yeah, I can see that. I I don't know what I would do, honestly.

SPEAKER_02 30:06

I know, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 30:08

Well, and you said it's the most active room, so that means there's gonna be obstacles, right? I'm gonna say a lot going on, yeah. A lot of obstacles, a lot of things to distract you. Um I don't I don't know that I'd do it by myself, but that also depends on well, I I wouldn't do it by myself. I'd have to make sure that the person that is with me, though, is really strong in their own inner authority because I'm not gonna take somebody that doesn't have the confidence to seal a room. Does that make sense? I'm not like gonna risk it and put us in further harm or whatever if that's the case. So it have to be somebody that is really grounded in their own authority.

SPEAKER_01 31:01

That makes sense. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 31:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:04

Yeah. So you do it.

SPEAKER_00 31:06

Cool. Yeah, I do it. Okay. Let's see what we have here. Well, I have this one, but I don't know that I love it. Okay. Okay. I like this one. Um, this one says you're investigating a haunted location, which we would never do, but like I feel like you wouldn't do that, but like probably not. But you're okay. Somehow you wind up at a haunted location. We'll just say that. And a spirit says, I can prove I am real right now, and tells you where its body is buried. Do you go look?

SPEAKER_01 32:23

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:29

For sure. Yeah. I mean, I guess it kind of depends if there is any other information too, or like where we're talking about it being buried, like if it's like super accessible or not, because no offense to anyone, but I'm not like walking through the woods for anything, you know what I mean? Like dense brush and things like that. Like that's not happening. Um, however, I think my my brain would go to like there might be someone who is looking for the physical remains of this person, and that it could help them in some way.

SPEAKER_00 33:02

Right, like closure would be involved somewhere.

SPEAKER_01 33:05

Yeah, I think that's where my brain kind of goes to, like that it could help someone still living, um, with maybe whatever they feel that they need to receive from the the physical aspects of the situation. Um if I couldn't get to the the physical place myself for whatever reason, I would probably just tell someone where I thought that it was. You know, I'd be like, you getting images of this and then you go here and whatever, but oh yeah, and let them and let them, yeah, or or let whoever volunteers, you know. Um so I think I'd have some boundaries with it if I felt like I needed it, but I think I would lean into it, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:42

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 33:44

Yeah. It would be I think it'd be kind of tough to say no to that if a spirit was like, I wanna Yeah, especially because you know at the other end of that somebody needs closure somehow. Right, right. So yeah, yeah, I think I would.

SPEAKER_00 33:59

That's a good answer.

SPEAKER_01 34:03

All right, so this one is called the Time Loop Room. Uh, you enter a room and lose three hours. All right. You have no memory of what happened. Do you ever go back in?

SPEAKER_00 34:15

Yeah, you can get rid of my memory for three hours at a time. I'm going back in a lot. I'm gonna go back in as often as you let me. I can disappear for three hours and have no recollection. Um, bye.

SPEAKER_01 34:33

Absolutely, Sia.

SPEAKER_00 34:35

Yeah, I'm like, that's to me, that's like a three-hour vacation. Fucking bye-bye. All right, fair. That's so funny. That's a hilarious question.

SPEAKER_01 34:45

Okay, absolutely. I'm doing that.

SPEAKER_00 34:48

Absolutely, I'm gonna disappear. Oh, that's so funny.

SPEAKER_01 34:54

I can see that. All right.

SPEAKER_00 34:58

Ooh, I like this one. This is a good one. You ready?

SPEAKER_03 35:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 35:02

A spirit offers undeniable proof that reincarnation reincarnation is real. The catch is you are going to remember all of your alternative lives too. Do you accept?

SPEAKER_01 35:18

Nope.

SPEAKER_00 35:19

What you said no?

SPEAKER_01 35:22

No, okay. Yeah, I I feel like we don't remember them typically for a reason. And I I feel like you could remember like the good aspects of like maybe your past lives and things like that. But I don't know. What if I was, you know, I don't like in some horrendous traumatic situation in, you know, a lot of these other past lives. Like, I don't want to remember those things. Like, I feel like it's it's uh challenging enough sometimes to navigate like this experience, never mind, you know, potentially however many people.

SPEAKER_00 35:55

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:56

Yeah. I I wouldn't want the the pieces of and I have my own suspicions about like what I feel like I've experienced in in certain past lives. I don't really have any memories, but it's more like a feeling of this feels right to me. And I just feel like there are some things there that I wouldn't want to remember in my physicality, you know, where where we have our human ego and and our nervous systems, and you know, um, I just don't think I would want to.

SPEAKER_00 36:23

Yeah, that's fair. That's understandable. I can I can kind of see both sides of it for sure.

SPEAKER_01 36:28

Yeah. Would you want to know?

SPEAKER_00 36:36

I mean, I think on some level we all do. Um we have like some sort of cell memory in some ways, but yeah, but because we're also um God, I'm yeah, I I feel like I could go either way with that one because I've already been so fucking traumatized in this life. To me, it's like what's another trauma? Big deal, whatever. Um, but then uh but then again, also how much trauma can one human hold for so for multiple lives, there's that too. So it's yeah, I don't really know. It depends on what you asked me, maybe. Yeah, okay, that's fair.

SPEAKER_01 37:15

Yeah, yeah, I can see that.

SPEAKER_00 37:17

I think my immediate reaction would have been yes, I'd want to know. Um yeah, yeah. I think that would have been my first, my first answer. But I can also understand like your answer because one life is heavy enough, right? You know, to sit with. So having the awareness of like 30 of them um could could definitely sit a little different.

SPEAKER_01 37:43

Yeah, I think it's kind of like what you said too, like how much trauma memory can one human body physically hold, you know.

SPEAKER_00 37:51

So but maybe where we're not living those lives and it's just a memory of them, it sits different because if you have if you think about it, we only use like 90% of our human brains. So, like when I think in those terms, I go, Yeah, I'd want to know. I think I could handle it.

SPEAKER_01 38:07

Yeah, yeah, I can see that. I don't think I still would, but I don't know. Interesting question, though. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 38:14

Makes you think it's thought provoking, thought provoking.

SPEAKER_01 38:18

Yeah. Um I kind of like this. I feel like I might know what your answer is, but all right, we'll see. I don't know. So it says a spirit offers to answer one question truthfully. That's all the context it gives there, but uh the catch is that it gets to ask you one question in return, and you must honor, answer, excuse me, honestly. Do you agree?

SPEAKER_00 38:45

Oh, totally, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 38:47

Yeah, I figured probably.

SPEAKER_00 38:49

Yeah, no, absolutely. I'm like, you wanna so it it gives me an answer honestly, like it's a hundred percent honest, accurate, all the things. And do I return the reciprocation like with the same? Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 39:04

Yeah. I feel like I would maybe need a little more context about what what like I can ask it and what that looks like. Like, is it about just the spirit itself or about other things? Like I would be curious, but yeah, okay. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 39:18

Yeah, okay. Okay, let's see. I'm moving on to a different list.

SPEAKER_02 39:34

That's a weird one.

SPEAKER_00 39:44

Oh my god, I love this one. Okay. A ghost follows you home, but not because it's an attachment, because it's crushing on you. Now what? Fucking love that one. Uh the flattery.

SPEAKER_01 40:05

That uh that is interesting. Um I I don't know. I I've never I've never encountered a question like that. Um I think I would just nicely tell it that like it needs to or they need to leave, you know, like hey, so flattered, you know. Um, but also like you need to you need to go figure out what you want to do for your own peace, sort of thing. Uh, and this is not it.

SPEAKER_00 40:33

So yeah. Um I'm not into long distance relationships and all. But yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:41

Yeah, I yeah, I don't know. That's that's such an interesting question, but um that was fucking hilarious. Yeah, just nicely kind of be like, hey, so um flattered, but also no.

SPEAKER_00 40:56

Yeah. That's so cute.

SPEAKER_01 40:59

I like that. Um, okay, I like this one. Um, you find an old key hidden inside a wall. Uh, the moment you touch it, you get an overwhelming feeling that you should never use it. So you try to find what it unlocks, and I guess use it.

SPEAKER_00 41:19

Uh, if the urgency is backed with a feeling of this can be really dangerous, then no, I wouldn't. I'd be like, nah, like you'd know the moment you touch it, right? Like you'd touch it and be like, oh damn, I'd probably even drop the key and be like, I don't even want to touch the key, dude.

SPEAKER_01 41:38

Yeah, I think so. Me too.

SPEAKER_00 41:40

And then I and actually at that point, I might even like go bury it or some shit, because like if it could be damaging to me, then I can only imagine how it might be impactful for hurtful for someone else. So I'd be like, oh, you know, let me let me just go put this in a safe spot.

SPEAKER_01 41:57

Yeah. I think I would be curious about it, but I think ultimately I agree with you. I would probably just leave it alone.

SPEAKER_00 42:03

I'd be curious, but not like to the point that not to my own detriment, right? Like, yeah. Um, and I can actually speak on like sort of examples like that in my life where you know, spirits been like, you need to leave right now, or something was very delivered urgently. And I did, and I was like, damn, that was scary, like that was crazy. And what it prevented was even worse, right? Like even crazier. So I go, oh damn. Um, so so yeah, I would trust myself enough to at least go, oh, if this feels like this, absolutely want nothing to do with it.

SPEAKER_01 42:40

Yeah, I agree, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:43

Yeah, okay. You ready for this one?

SPEAKER_01 42:49

I I think so.

SPEAKER_00 42:50

This is so funny. Aliens arrive tomorrow, and their first announcement is we would like to speak to your cats. Explain. Explain, I guess, why this would be happening and how would you feel about you know Bernadette having this conversation?

SPEAKER_01 43:11

Oh well, Bernadette's gonna do whatever those she has to do without my say. So absolutely. Yeah, which which I love. I actually actually appreciate it. Um, I love that I think cats in general are just so fiercely kind of authentic to who they are, you know. They're um so she's just gonna do whatever she wants. Um, as long as like I would be fine with it, I guess, as long as um they like there was no intention of like hurting the cats for any reason. I don't know why there would be, but um I I think if I had to explain why they wanted to talk to the cats, because cats are magical, you know what I mean? Like they cats know things that humans bypass all the time or kind of dismiss.

SPEAKER_00 43:57

And I love your answer because that one's way cooler than what I would have come up with. Like cats are magical and they're fucking alien themselves. But like I'm sitting here going, I don't know. Like, for one, I don't have cats because I'm allergic to fucking everything. Um, but for one, Bernadette's fucking so strong-willed. She'd be like, I do what I want. Yeah, she totally does what she wants, she does not care. Um, she's so unapologetic. And secondly, my explanation would be like shit, maybe they eat cats, maybe they shouldn't be congregating together. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 44:33

True, yeah. That's why the little caveat of as long as they're not trying to hurt the cats.

SPEAKER_00 44:37

Right, yeah, like maybe that's like their primary source of you know, protein. I don't fucking know.

SPEAKER_01 44:44

Yeah, yeah. If that's the case, then no, and Bernadette doesn't get a say anymore. Um, yeah, she's she's not gonna be eaten by aliens if I have anything to do with it. But uh, but yeah, I don't know. Otherwise, I don't know. Yeah, I'd be cool with it.

SPEAKER_00 44:58

They don't need us, we're disgusting to them, so I feel like it makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 45:04

They would want to talk to the cats.

SPEAKER_00 45:05

For sure, right? Like I've seen fucking cats walk through portals. Of course they want to talk to the cats. Yeah, yeah, like oh, they do. They're so magical. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 45:15

Yeah, I love that. That was a good one.

SPEAKER_00 45:18

So funny.

SPEAKER_01 45:21

Um, it's my turn to ask you, right?

SPEAKER_00 45:24

Yeah, and I think let's do this. Let's do this. Let that be the last one, and then maybe we can do a couple rapid fire and call it good. Okay. Yeah. Oh god. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 45:37

Um, it says your phone starts receiving text from a number that does not exist. The messages accurately predict things that happen. Five minutes later, do you keep reading them?

SPEAKER_00 45:58

From a number that doesn't exist, like so I have to have done a Google search at this point to figure out it's like a non-active working number, right? So at this point, I've already decided I've already deciphered that this is spirit delivering messages. And you said five minutes into the future every yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:16

Yeah, five minutes it predicts what's gonna happen in five minutes.

SPEAKER_00 46:20

Um I would entertain the idea for a minute. I would definitely read some of them and I'd probably continue to like look at them while I'm while I'm observing what's unfolding before me. And then at some point I'd block it because um I would not want to keep knowing everything. Like that would seal the power of the presence from me, and I'd be too wrapped up in like, oh, here's what's coming, instead of enjoying whatever human experience I could enjoy. So I would I'd kind of observe for a minute and then I'd end up cutting it off.

SPEAKER_01 47:02

Yeah, I agree. Yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 47:06

Yeah, so oh, I put my phone down and we're supposed to do some rapid fire. Uh, did you get rapid fire on your oh shit, where's my where's my list? Okay, you can start if you want because I have to find my list.

SPEAKER_01 47:22

Okay. Um, so this one says spirit guide, ghost, or cryptid. Who are you inviting to dinner?

SPEAKER_00 47:31

The cryptid.

SPEAKER_01 47:32

Yeah, I had a feeling you were gonna say that.

SPEAKER_00 47:34

Absolutely. Spirit guide and ghost, boring. Get the fellow with that shit. Give me a Bigfoot or a dog man. Absolutely, 100%. Give me some of that shit.

SPEAKER_01 47:45

Bigfoot at dinner. I like it.

SPEAKER_00 47:47

Absolutely. Like, yeah, I'm like spirit guide or ghost. God, that's my everyday. That's so boring.

SPEAKER_03 47:55

I get it.

SPEAKER_00 47:58

Okay. Haunted cemetery or haunted hospital.

SPEAKER_01 48:05

Cemetery.

SPEAKER_00 48:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:07

It's it's outside at least, you know.

SPEAKER_00 48:10

Cemeteries, I feel like, can be so charming. I I have this weird draw towards cemeteries, actually. It's weird, but it's not weird based on like who we are and what we do. But like I especially love cemeteries that are like 1700s and fucked up, like really not well kept and overgrown. Like, I love that shit.

SPEAKER_01 48:30

Yeah, yeah. I like them actually. I don't mind cemeteries. I feel like there's a peacefulness sometimes, but they're so charming.

SPEAKER_00 48:38

Yeah, so peaceful, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 48:40

Yeah, so I agree. Yep. Um, we're just picking random ones, right?

SPEAKER_00 48:47

Like there's a list, but just yeah, I've got a list too.

SPEAKER_01 48:49

Just oh, interesting. Um, what is your biggest pet peeve about how mediums are portrayed in movies and TV?

SPEAKER_00 49:02

Biggest pet peeve. There might be several here. Um I don't I don't love the way TV magic editing makes things look so instantaneous all the time. Because that's actually not the reality of it. Sometimes our humans have to integrate the information that's being presented to us, and that can that can take days. It can take hours, it can take days, it can take weeks. Um and so it's for for TV magic to make it look like it's always instant, and that's what a psychic does. It's always on the spot. No, it's not, it's actually not always like that. Um, some things can be, um, and other things take more time for our humans to integrate it because we're in such a different dimension. Um so it's that is definitely one of my biggest pet peeves. Also, I think they make things look very theatrical, especially in scary movies, right? When it's like, oh, the medium's eyes went all white, and this is what happens when she's channeling. I mean, um, yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_01 50:17

The theatrics, yeah, yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_00 50:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:22

So yeah, that's uh that's a good one.

unknown 50:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 50:28

Let's see what I have here. Spirit guide or time traveler.

SPEAKER_01 50:37

Like which do I want to encounter, sort of thing?

SPEAKER_00 50:40

Yeah, like in your instant knee jerk, spirit guide or time traveler, which do you want to experience first?

SPEAKER_01 50:48

Because it depends how they're presenting themselves. Like I hear my spirit guide sometimes in my head and things, but like if they're gonna come into the room and have like a conversation with me, like we're having right now, where it's this clear, probably a spirit guide, because I would want to ask some things. Um, yeah, but if it's not like that, it's just normal everyday kind of like where I hear them in my head, and it still has to filter through my physicality and you know, all of that, then probably time traveler.

SPEAKER_00 51:13

Yeah, just depends on like what day you're being asked.

SPEAKER_01 51:17

Yeah, yeah, and and maybe what the circumstance, I guess. Yeah, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:21

That makes sense. Okay. Going to a difference, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 51:27

Okay. Let's see, hold on.

SPEAKER_03 51:31

Um stuff.

SPEAKER_01 51:35

Okay, interesting. Um spirit box or Ouija board. Like, I guess which one would you rather?

SPEAKER_00 51:44

I don't even know the difference. What the fuck is a spirit box?

SPEAKER_01 51:48

I believe it's like one of those kind of boxes, I guess, for lack of a better term, but it's like, you know, you turn it on, it has like the static noise and everything, and then like sometimes words come through, or I think it's that. Um hold on.

SPEAKER_00 52:03

Let me Google spirit box because I'm like, I don't even know what this is. Hold on a second.

SPEAKER_01 52:07

I've never used one personally, but I've never even heard of this.

SPEAKER_00 52:11

Wait a second. Let me see. Okay, what is a spirit box? And I want to see pictures, right? So spirit box, a ghost box is a specialized radio scanner used in paranormal. Oh, okay. Actually, Kelly does this.

SPEAKER_03 52:29

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:32

Okay, uh, I'm gonna go with spirit box. Yeah, yeah. I think spirit box for sure.

SPEAKER_01 52:40

I like spirit box too.

SPEAKER_00 52:41

Yeah, I think that'd be more fun.

SPEAKER_01 52:43

Yeah, same.

SPEAKER_00 52:45

And also, like, I'm like, oh, spirit box, let's have an argument, let's have a brawl, let's do this. Like, let me just stir up some shit with a spirit box, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:54

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:56

I think that'd be a I think it'd at least be a fun experience.

SPEAKER_01 53:01

Yeah, I think so. A bit more modern too, with the technology aspect of it, I suppose.

SPEAKER_00 53:06

Yeah, especially where the um communication would be instantaneous instead of having to wait and spell out all the things through the widget board or I'd be like, oh, just take it or ever so long.

SPEAKER_01 53:22

Yeah, I agree. Spirit box for sure.

SPEAKER_00 53:25

Okay. Uh okay.

SPEAKER_01 53:46

Um I think I don't know if it's considered an ability or not, or if it just kind of falls under the umbrella of um, you know, like something like clear cognizance or something like that. But like probably knowing when people are gonna pass, because I know that certain people really can tune into that very well, and it just kind of like organically the information just kind of pops up for them. I would not want that. I um I think that would be a really kind of heavy thing to carry. So probably that.

SPEAKER_00 54:24

Yeah, that's a fair one. I mean, I can't even argue with that one because it is that's definitely uh a responsibility, it's a weird responsibility to have.

SPEAKER_01 54:35

Yeah, very interesting and not typical, but um yeah, and I feel like it would be a lot you'd have to have really strong ethics for that one. Oh, yeah, yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_00 54:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:48

Um, because you you can't just go around telling people, like, oh, you're gonna die next week. You know what I mean? Like that's so yeah, probably that.

SPEAKER_02 54:56

Yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 55:01

Um, hmm, let's see. I guess I don't know, I kind of find this one funny. Um, it's less about maybe your experience, but more like what you think about something. But it says if a spirit could leave a Yelp review of humanity, what do you think it would say?

SPEAKER_02 55:23

Oh man.

SPEAKER_00 55:31

Um, I think we'd only get like a three-star rating.

SPEAKER_03 55:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:37

Uh and I think it would say something along the lines of, dude, all you had to do was be nice to each other. Shit, it's not that hard. It's really like, it's like it wasn't like a really hard mission, seriously. Like, how did you have to complicate overcompucate this one? Like, seriously, dude, the mission wasn't that hard.

SPEAKER_01 56:01

Yeah, I agree. It'd say something like that.

SPEAKER_00 56:04

Yeah, three stars, like, yeah. Not that best. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 56:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:12

Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:14

But also, we are where we are, and that's supposed to be that's supposed to be good enough too. So but yeah. Uh let's see, do I have one that I wanna let me end it. I'll just end it with one more.

SPEAKER_01 56:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 56:31

Um, let's see, where'd my list go? Where'd my list go? Ooh, this one would be hard for you. I think I'm gonna go with this one. There's like two that I really like, but I really kind of wanna see what you would do if this happened. Okay. If all of a sudden your house rolls were put on pause for a week and you could see spirits that whole week, what would you do? How would you handle that?

SPEAKER_01 57:19

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 57:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:23

I guess I'd have to go with it because like I mean, you wouldn't have a choice.

SPEAKER_00 57:26

Yeah, like there's no option.

SPEAKER_01 57:29

Um I would probably try to stay out of certain places for sure. Like I'm not gonna be visiting I didn't even think of that. Yeah. I think I'm I I'm not gonna be going a lot of places during that week if I can help it.

SPEAKER_00 57:46

You're like, I'm gonna isolate, like it's COVID again.

SPEAKER_01 57:49

Yeah, just gonna stay in.

SPEAKER_00 57:53

Um would you wear like, would you just like wear an eye mask too and just be like, I'm just gonna blind myself for can we?

SPEAKER_01 58:00

Yeah, yeah, as much as I could, just walk around with an eye mask and be like, nope. Um I don't know. I guess I just have to go with it otherwise. But I would uh I think I'd just kind of isolate as much as I could.

SPEAKER_00 58:14

Like it's a fucking plague, you'd be like, I'm not going to the grocery store. Damn, not going to the hospital or cemeteries this week.

SPEAKER_01 58:21

Nope.

SPEAKER_00 58:22

Oh my god, I didn't even think of that. That never even crossed my mind when I asked that question.

SPEAKER_01 58:26

Yeah, because then you're seeing them everywhere, you know, and I don't know. I'll just it's much.

SPEAKER_00 58:32

She's like, I'm gonna lay low until this blows up.

SPEAKER_01 58:39

I think that's what I do.

SPEAKER_00 58:41

Fucking funny. I mean, yeah, because like that shit's frazzling. Like they can be very, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 58:51

Yeah. Especially like all of a sudden out of nowhere.

SPEAKER_00 58:53

You'd be like, I'll be back in a week. See you later. Bye for a while.

SPEAKER_01 58:59

Gonna go take a week-long nap.

SPEAKER_00 59:01

Like, you know, this is not great time for hibernation. Yeah, that's funny. That's so funny. Okay, I think that's it. Uh so thank you for hanging out with me because this is this was fun, and um, I love doing shit like this sometimes. But also, you guys, if you guys want to work with uh Lee or I privately, Lee's uh information, you know, if you want to reach out to him and book a reading with him, that'll be in the show notes listed. And uh if you want to work with uh me privately, my uh booking links are also gonna be in the show notes. So see you guys next time. Bye. Bye.