Awakened Spirits: Intuition, Past Lives, And Spiritual Growth With Summer

***This is part one of our conversation with Summer. Be sure to come back next week for part two.***

Host April DeMille introduces the Own Your Essence podcast and her services (psychic medium readings and coaching for grief, trauma, and toxic relationship recovery), then welcomes guest Summer, an intuitive teacher, channeler, and author who runs Just Be True in Tyrone, Georgia. Summer describes her mission to support people through spiritual awakening and explains common signs such as hearing voices, sudden “knowing,” and seeing colors around people, sharing her own frightening awakening experiences and how a medium reassured her she wasn’t crazy. They discuss distinguishing intuition from fear or wishful thinking, noting intuition is often subtle but can become urgent in danger, illustrated by both women’s real-life experiences involving police reports. They explore beliefs about predestination and co-creation, and discuss past-life regression/hypnotherapy as a tool for identifying and healing trauma and beliefs across lifetimes, including a client’s intense purging experience and mind-body symptom connections, emphasizing trust, community, and integration.

Summer is an intuitive teacher, energy healer, author, and spiritual life coach dedicated to helping people reconnect with their inner wisdom and authentic selves. Her journey into this work was born from personal transformation and a deep commitment to spiritual growth.

Through sound healing, trans channeling, and intuitive guidance, Summer helps others align with their highest potential and restore balance to mind, body, and spirit. Drawing on her gifts of clairaudience, clairvoyance, clairsentience, and claircognizance, she shares compassionate insights and messages from spirit guides, departed loved ones, and the soul to support healing, clarity, and personal empowerment.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 1:02

Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of Own Your Essence Podcast, where we get to have deep transformational conversations with some of our favorite people. I am your host, April DeMille. For those of you that are seeking intuitive insight, I provide private psychic medium readings. These sessions are designed to bring clarity and direction across areas like money, career, relationships, family dynamics, spiritual evolution, and emotional well-being. If you are ready for a deeper, more personalized support, I offer private one-on-one coaching for those navigating grief, trauma, and the complexities of toxic relationship recovery. You can schedule a discovery call using the links provided to ensure it's a comfortable fit. You'll find all booking links in the show notes of every episode. And as always, thanks for tuning in. Today, I just wanted to take a moment to introduce our next guest, our next guest. Her name is Summer. And she is an intuitive teacher, a channeler, an author, and an author I'm having problems, and an author passionate about her work and helping others. So listen, she has something very exciting in store for us today. Hi. So I was just reading your introduction, but if you want to take a moment to tell our uh audience a little bit about who you are and what you're doing, um go for it.

SPEAKER_01 2:47

Oh yeah. So um thank you so much, one, for allowing me the opportunity to be here and um join you on your podcast. This is really exciting. Um so I am Summer. Um, I own the company um Just Be True in Tyrone, Georgia. Um, and I also have um my own podcasts that I'm still building and building up on. And hopefully one day I'll be able to do guests as well. I just haven't gotten you yet. That's exciting. Yeah. Um, but basically my goal is to help people through their intuitive and their spiritual journey so they know that they're not alone. Sometimes when we're in awakening process, it could be very scary. You can feel like you're alone on the journey and you don't have anybody to talk to or help. And so my goal is to help people, let them know that they're not alone and to bring like-minded souls together to learn and grow and explore what all this is.

SPEAKER_00 3:45

Yeah, and that's actually a really great uh you know, mission to have because I think you and I are similar in this, in the sense that there's such a gap and a need for you know how uh traumatic a spiritual awakening can feel. And and so I want to talk a little bit about that. Like I, you know, if if someone's going through a spiritual awakening, then they're like they have no clue. Like this is their newbies, this is brand new to them. What are some like signs that they can look for? Like, oh, this is happening, this is this is what's what what are some common things that show up for people?

SPEAKER_01 4:26

Um, so you know, some people can I for me, uh you know, I like to start with my own journey when mine started opening up is I was hearing voices around me. Okay, and they were very unnerving, you know, and I didn't understand why I was hearing these voices. Um, me and my husband actually built a home on 22 acres, and that's where it all started. And I was going around talking to this little kid, explaining what was a vacuum cleaner, what was a washing machine and dryer, why you fold clothes. And come to find out, um, you know, I was telling my best friend, and she's like, Oh, you gotta go see a medium. And I'm like, What's a medium? Yeah, you're like, I didn't even yeah, I didn't even know what that was. And so um, she's like, Don't worry about it, just go. And the day of the day, so I made my appointment, it was like a week or so later, and the day of my appointment, I'm sitting at work and I'm sitting in my cubicle and I'm hearing voices circling my head. You know, it's like four voices I could hear just circling my head, and I literally thought that I was gonna have to be institutionalized.

SPEAKER_00 5:37

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:38

Like I was, I was terrified, you know, because I recently saw the movie Um Beautiful Mind. And that's where I thought that I was headed, like to, you know, into that space. And later that afternoon, when I showed up for my appointment with the medium, I sat down and she said, She goes, The first thing I have to tell you is you're not crazy. And I sat up and I'm like, What do you mean I'm not crazy? And then she explained to me that I could hear spirits from the other side. And from that point, as far back as I can remember, even as a child, everything just kind of made sense, you know, because I would find myself like arguing with myself, like in circles and like coming up with like, you know, you know, like an agreement or or something to kind of stop the argument and didn't realize that I necessarily wasn't arguing with myself. I was probably arguing with my spirit guides or or someone else. And you were the referee.

SPEAKER_00 6:35

There was a referee there, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:37

Yeah, and I just didn't realize what that was. But when we moved into that home, it was just amplified because all the activity that was happening there on that land, because there was actually a portal there on that land, and there was a lot of activity activity taking place, and so it just kind of put me in a situation where it was just kind of an overload, yeah. Right? It was overload of noise and and voices and things. So when you're hearing voices that are coming out of nowhere, or you're getting information that you don't know how you're getting it, like it's just kind of a knowing, an instant knowing. So all of that can be signs of awakening. Yeah. Colors, if you're seeing colors around people, that can be it too.

SPEAKER_00 7:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:21

Right. But like if you're not used to these things, you can really feel lost and uncertain.

SPEAKER_00 7:27

Yeah, literally, um, you're speaking my language because when I went through it, um, when I went through like this dark night of shit, like it was a whole nother level of that awakening. I I thought for sure there was something wrong with me. But more than that, other people thought there was something wrong with me because they were afraid of what I could do. Does that make sense? Like they didn't understand it. So it was more about like the heckling and shit I got from other people that made me doubt myself and think I was crazy above above all. Um, but I went through that too, where I I even called the cops on my fucking spirit guide. Um, so that's a fun story. And I have a three-page fucking police report about that. Um wow, yeah, true story. So um, so yeah, I so it does make you think you're off your rocker. It really does.

SPEAKER_01 8:16

Yes, yeah, it can, you know, and so having people to share your story with and that can say, you know, you're not alone and oh, I've gone through something similar, yeah, you know, or this is what happened to me, it can definitely ease, you know, it can ease your nerves about that because you can get a sense of fear and anxiety and uncertainty that just surrounds you, and even scared of your own self.

SPEAKER_00 8:39

Yeah. I mean and and scared even of the interactions that you're having spiritually because you're already doubting yourself. So then you're now almost emitting that frequency. And so it that can happen too. Um, at least it did for me.

SPEAKER_01 8:53

Um yeah, I 100% agree. I kind of stepped into it and then funny because then I was like, oh, well, if I have this, then I want to go to all these haunted places to see what I can pick up. Oh my God, like be careful. Like, yeah, because you, you know, because you can definitely feel overstimulated in places like that if you don't protect yourself and go a caution. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00 9:17

Yeah, yeah, I think for sure. Um so okay, so while we're on the spiritual awakening, you talk about, you know, intuition, right? You work with a lot of intuition. But for people that aren't really familiar with intuition, how can they tell the difference between like intuition, fear, and just like wishful thinking or fantasy?

SPEAKER_01 9:40

So for me, when I intuition is is more subtle, it's a little bit quieter. It's not gonna be loud, it's not gonna be um forceful. To me, intuition is really soft. And I usually get my intuition um right and in like this is my right shoulder, so right in this area here. Um, it's usually soft. Um, I will say though that it has come in pretty loud before. Um very interesting.

SPEAKER_00 10:10

I was actually gonna say, uh I think it's subtle when you're not used to it, but then when you I guess graduate like to a certain level of that, like I think it gets really loud and even presented with urgency if you need to act quickly.

SPEAKER_01 10:24

I'll say so. Um I have a very interesting story. This was before I was aware of my gifts, aware of my intuition. Okay. And um I was I had come home from um spending the evening hanging out with um the guy that I was dating at the time. And I went back to my apartment and I'm sitting in the car, and I and I'm hearing in my head, you go back to where you came from. And I'm like, I can't do that. Like, this is an argument I was having in my head for like 20 minutes. I was like, Well, I can't do that. They were like, Well, then I heard you got to go somewhere else. I was like, there's no place else for me to go. I don't have the money for to rent a room, and why would I? I have my own place, you know? And they're like, you just can't go in. I was like, this is ridiculous. And I sit there and argued with this voice for about 20 minutes, and finally we came to an agreement that, okay, I'll go into the apartment with the least amount of stuff that I need in my hands. So I had a blue jean jacket on, so I put my wallet on the inside pocket of the blue jean jacket. I put my keys around all my fingers, right? And I had my loaf of bread because I had to make my um I had to make my egg sandwich in the morning. So that loaf of bread was really important to me. Yeah. And so I went like that. And when I walked up to my apartment door, somebody was standing at my apartment door and pulled a gun out on me.

SPEAKER_00 12:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:01

And I'm just like, if I had only like, and then years later, when I realized that this was actually a gift and it they were trying to help me, if I had only listened, I would not have had to go through the situation that I went through with that. You know, so you know, sometimes it could be so if you'd sat in the car and like listened or sat wherever you were sitting, you wouldn't have you could have avoided that moment altogether. Altogether. I could have avoided it all together.

SPEAKER_00 12:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:31

So I have a story that's very similar. Like, not it was it was life-threatening for sure. Um but I I did, I guess on the way to that event, I definitely had some reasons to be like, oh, I shouldn't go. But I was in so much turmoil and grief over the date that this happened on. And uh, and it was uh, you know, death anniversary for somebody I loved so much. And so I that was louder than anything else over my intuition. So I was like, I'm I'm going. I need to, you know, stay busy, whatever. So I went and it was very life-threatening. Um, another police report that had to be filed. Um, but while I was in that situation, I got the get up now, get the fuck out of there. Like it was like very move your ass. And I was like, oh, whoa, hey, like it was so loud, it shook my head like thunder. I was like, God, like I like I felt like I had a seizure in my body. And it was so urgent and terrifying that I knew I was in danger. Like there was no doubt about it. And I did the same thing. I clutched my keys with the keys up, and I was gonna make it out that door one way or the other. And so I did and ended up, but it's it's crazy, like how yeah, you know, uh there are, yeah, like what if I had not listened, we this might be an entirely different conversation or not one at all.

SPEAKER_01 14:03

Right. Yeah. I mean, mine would be a totally different conversation, right? I wouldn't even have known that that individual was there, right? And nothing would have happened at all. And so I will say that, you know, our intuition, our guides, whatever, you know, like those that are around us to protect us, whether you want to call them your guides or your angels or loved ones, whatever, if they need to be allowed to get your attention, they will be allowed to get your attention. Yeah. And it's gonna be it's gonna be jolting and and it's gonna be at the point where it's like, okay, this is what I got to do, you know. Um, and there's not gonna be any second guess about it. Don't be stubborn like me and argue with them.

SPEAKER_00 14:44

Oh no, no, but that's I feel like I feel like that's part of the process though, through the awakening is like learning, you know, discernment and how to trust yourself again, especially when you've been taught to doubt yourself your whole life, right? So it's it's definitely flexing that muscle, right? When we have to go, oh, here's I here's why I need to listen more, like we figure it out.

SPEAKER_01 15:05

Yeah. Yeah. And so, and a lot of times it's gonna be if you're being asked to do something or you feel that push to do something that's outside of your normal nature. I'm gonna say eight times out of ten, that's your intuition speaking to you. You know, that's who that is because they're trying to move you in the direction in which you kind of signed up for.

SPEAKER_00 15:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:31

Right. Like we've all signed up for a certain path and do experience certain things and and go through certain experiences in our life. And so they're gonna help you through that or whatever that is, you know, and their their goal is for you to be able to do it as safely um and as calmly um as deemed possible. And all that that's also kind of based on what you're what you agreed to before you ever came here. So I feel like we did agree to certain things before we came.

SPEAKER_00 16:02

Yeah, I'm glad you touched base on that because like I think that a lot of things are predestined. Um and I think that there is a level of co-creation happening as well. But I don't, I don't think we just manifest our reality 100%. I don't actually agree with that.

SPEAKER_01 16:19

So yeah, I agree. Yeah, not 100% because I think some of it is, you know, definitely predestined, you know. And I'll tell somebody they're like, oh, well, I missed this opportunity. Well, if the opportunity was truly meant for you to have, you'll never miss it. Right. No such thing as missing anything, actually. Right, yeah, and there's no mistake. Look, I realized um a while back, like there's no mistakes. No, everything that you do is very much intentional.

SPEAKER_00 16:43

Yeah, and also you realize it. And also that's really hard for some people to sit with, especially when there's so much pain in the world and there's murder and you know, horrible things happening to families and kids or whatever, right? And so it's really hard for some people to be like, what do you mean there's nothing wrong in the world or no mistakes or whatever? There's not, there's really not.

SPEAKER_01 17:05

Yeah, there's not, yeah. There was a purpose for that, right? Like if you know it a young soul, you know, came to an early end, well, you know, there was a purpose for that, right? Maybe they came to teach you something, right? You know, and their passing was a part of that lesson. That's right. Yeah, you know, or maybe they just came to experience such a short period of time so they could go to the other side to do more work. Like my best friend passed away um in 2019. And um what I'm realizing now, like it took me a little while to realize it, but what I'm realizing now is she's doing a lot more over there than she ever could do here. You know, so sometimes they they go because they've got more work to do. And it's exactly right here.

SPEAKER_00 17:53

A lot of times their soul advances and it and and expands so quickly that they know that they can do better from the other side and they choose to do that. They go, you know, I'm gonna, I did what I could here, it's time to go there. And you know, they have jobs, we have jobs there too.

SPEAKER_01 18:11

Yeah, and it's funny because there was no, I mean, there was nothing wrong with her. Like she didn't have any health issues, and it was very sudden. Yeah, you know, and so to me, that tells me that there's a there's a bigger force here at play than anything that we can actually kind of understand. I think whatever this reality that um we're connected to, I feel that it's bigger than anything that we can actually understand and that we can comprehend as as individuals because there's just so much more to play. And everything that we do here is basically a ripple effect across all that exists.

SPEAKER_00 18:56

Yeah, universal. Like it's it's it goes out everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 18:59

I think it's yeah, everywhere.

SPEAKER_00 19:01

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:02

It's pretty amazing, you know. So you know, don't beat yourself up. Um, trust yourself, know that there's a loving presence that's here to support you, um, and find people that are going through the same things or that have gone through those things so they can be there to communicate and help you and and make you feel like you're not going so crazy.

SPEAKER_00 19:25

Yeah. So that way you realize that you're not as alone as you think you are, because that shit does make you feel it does set you apart. It really does.

SPEAKER_01 19:34

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I was heartbroken. I I had did a class yesterday, and one of the um attendees, you know, we were doing aura work and we were watching basically I would have them sit in front of the screen, a white screen, and I would have them talk about something they really enjoyed, and we would watch their aura change.

SPEAKER_00 19:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:57

And then I was like, well, let's talk about something a little bit more, you know, discerning. Like what's what's stressing you now in your life? And we saw her aura change again, you know, and then she started saying, Well, I feel all alone. I'm not, you know, I don't have other people around me. And it really broke my heart, but her whole aura turned gray.

SPEAKER_00 20:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:18

When she started feeling that way, you know. And so, I mean, it was one of the first um classes she had been to, you know. So we all we took the time to let her know that she wasn't alone and that there are others, you know, here to support her and to listen and to share with her.

SPEAKER_00 20:35

Well, and I like that you're the medium that you went to see. I like that the first thing she said to you was, you're not crazy. I think all the mediums need to deliver that message because, like, yeah, that is exactly the enlightenment we need for those people that are like, holy shit, I'm losing my marbles. And oh my God, I I deserve a padded room. And and not, you know what I mean? Like, that's those are the real thoughts I had about my situation. I thought I was having an absolute breakdown of reality and a mental health crisis. Like I thought, I don't know what I thought, but it wasn't going good. It right, you know, and I thought, oh my God, I'm schizophrenic because I um I see dots and I talk to Elvis, right? Like all the things, right? Like, so yeah. Um, so I I really did think, and more than that, again, like you know, like I said earlier, other people didn't understand it. So their fears were were projected, and that just amplified what I already was, you know.

SPEAKER_01 21:33

And so especially if it's been, yeah, I think in the last couple years it's gotten better than that. But I mean, this was like two decades ago, man. Right, people weren't open to it. Right.

SPEAKER_00 21:42

Yeah. I so even when I was going through most of my stuff, um, you know, I didn't come out of the psychic closet until 20 uh 17, 17 or 18. And okay, and so it wasn't that long ago. I just turned 47 this year. So like I it's not been that long that I finally, you know, leaned into it for all of my life before that, the 37 years before that, I was fighting tooth and nail to give it back. I was like, I don't want this, you're ruining my life. Like, I wanted nothing to do with it. So yeah, I was really, really asleep.

SPEAKER_01 22:25

And there's a yeah, I mean, yes, and there's still people today that are asleep that are fighting it, right? Yeah. Yeah. And so, you know, I kind of like I don't want to hurt their feelings, but it kind of makes me giggle a little bit because, you know, I kind of want to tell them you you really don't have much of a choice. It's gonna happen. We can embrace it and make the best of it.

SPEAKER_00 22:46

Yeah. Well, and that's exactly what happened. So as much time as you spend asleep, that tower moment gets bigger and it's building. It's not gonna, it's not it, and when it comes, it's going to wreck everything and it did that's what happened to me i mean it shredded my existence there was no dignity left right like there was nothing and i was like okay so i guess i have to lean into it because there's nothing left it literally forces you to yeah and but you know it's gonna change every i mean it's gonna change everything for you like it's gonna change the meaning of life it's gonna change your purpose for being here it's gonna change how you see everything it changes everything it changes everything but i i will say that i think it's all for the better yeah you know once you can it's all for the better once you can embrace it read books find podcasts find whatever it is that yeah educate your groups yeah and just be with it and i would you know the main thing i would say is if you come across something and it doesn't resonate with you just set it to the side yeah it doesn't have to mean for you right now but i will say don't say never right you can always circle back to it because you can't yeah because you can circle you know it's like reiki reiki was a thing for me early on it's just like man i don't know about this reiki stuff it seems really kind of out there i'm just gonna put it to the side yeah well now I'm a Reiki practitioner right and so that was one of the yeah I do Reiki also but I don't do it I learned usui however I don't do the way I learned I just do what works for me what's organic for me and I don't practice with other people I mostly practice myself whatever um yeah um but I will say one of the modalities that came up for me that never did anything for me was tapping that doesn't mean it can't later it doesn't mean it's yet it doesn't mean it's a wrong modality it's just not the right fit for me at least not right now and so that's one of those things where I go eh whatever like yeah it's I've done the things I say I've done the things I've taken the certificate uh I've got all the books and I'm like well I don't care right like and that's okay it just doesn't speak to my soul the way other things do right I agree I I'm the same lane about the tapping like I'm very interested in it but it hasn't really like like I've tried it and it really just didn't resonate with me at all.

SPEAKER_01 25:19

Yeah um yeah and it's funny and so like even the Reiki now my Reiki includes light language um and I my Reiki includes like sound vibration and light language in it. So I don't do necessarily the traditional Reiki that um you're used to so I do like I know it but I do more of like whatever comes naturally in the moment. Yeah that's what I you know with whoever's and who's ever there.

SPEAKER_00 25:44

Well and that's that's what matters is it matters on who your sitter is and what's being presented intuitively in that moment. And so yeah absolutely I do it that way too.

SPEAKER_02 25:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:53

So I'm very much that way. I think there's a lot of us that like to tread our own paths for sure. Yes. Especially if we're very intuitive intuitively uh in touch with ourselves um you know which is how how we learned to trust ourselves to begin with. Yeah let's talk about past life like past life regression okay and past life I I love this subject because um just from my perspective like I so I love hypnotherapy and um that's also a modality I'm certified in so um but not one I practice outside of like myself um but I uh hypnotherapy is beautiful and I love that we can um there is so much healing that can happen just from tapping into all those the our unconscious or subconscious you know our conscious levels um so I want to talk about past lives because I think sometimes I guess what I want to understand is like when you talk about past lives what that perspective is because when I talk about other lives it's more like alternative lives because everything happens simultaneous. So I'm curious yeah so I'm curious what your standpoint is on past lives.

SPEAKER_01 27:12

So first of all I'd like to say that you know when you go through any type of healing that is related to a past life or even in this lifetime I feel that it heals across all spectrums of that right I don't feel that um so like I think you can go through an experience in your current life but I also think you can go into a hypnotic state into a past life see where something was learn from that and then in your current life take the necessary steps to make that correction or heal or learn from it and then it kind of like takes care of it across the board. Yeah um yeah I think we can definitely integrate healing and then there's like a like a cell recovery kind of yes yes and so when I discovered past life um for me it truly helped me identify more of who I was and explained more of why I felt or believed certain things. And it also allowed me to release some beliefs that I had that were holding me back. Yeah yep you know and so for me it was I mean for me it was truly life changing and when I went through mine I wanted to learn how to do that for others so I could help others go through that same type of transition for themselves to find you know where there's triggers in their body or even within their own emotions that may not that yeah they may see where it came from like this lifetime but there's a good chance that it came from another lifetime as well. Yeah. And so being able to find that make that connection and and observe it, you know, and it can allow you to address it and make the changes that you want to make to make your life better.

SPEAKER_02 29:17

Right?

SPEAKER_01 29:18

Or heal those traumas. And so like one thing I remember like when I went through that first past life I went in my belief at that time towards women was that you can't trust women. And I had hardly any female friends. Most of my friends were male but once I realized that and identified where that came from then I was able to release it. Now that's all I have is female friends.

unknown 29:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:49

Right. And so to me it was amazing how that and it also explained why I was good at certain things in this lifetime good at certain things that I experienced you know and so it just made more sense of some of the things that kind of came naturally to me because it's been a history of it for I don't know how long, right? Like over lifetimes multiple lifetimes um that's kind of where you know I my belief is on that um I've seen people in the most amazing past life hypnosis that I conducted on a client I mean it was so amazing I can't even um I'm still kind of lost for words about how kind of like what happened but in this past life um what she experienced was being thrown into the ocean in in a bag so she was basically just dumped in the ocean you know like trash and and um she was panicking because she was in this bag and so I was like well you can tear through the bag and so she started you know so I told her I was like tear through it I don't care if you gotta bite it rip it with your nails whatever you gotta do let's tear through that bag and so um she like went through the motions of tearing through it and then she's like I'm free and I'm like yes you are free I was like so you know what what do you want to do now she's like I want to swim to the top I was like well let's swim yeah let's let's start swimming you know let's free yourself and so then she landed on a on a beach and she still had the string of the um garbage bag tied to her ankle and it's funny because before the hypnosis she told me that her ankle had been bothering her for quite some time. And it was the exact same ankle that she ended up um having this string tied around. And so I was like well can you untie it she's like I think so and I was like well let's let's untie it and so she spent about three or four minutes untying this invisible I couldn't see the string of course but she's like fighting with it and untying it and she's letting it go and she finally says it's gone. And as soon as that happened she literally started throwing up I mean just she started throwing so I'm helping her right I'm I'm helping her with that so and then I I go and get a wash rag and I you know so she can wipe all her face and clean up and then she's like I want to go explore and I realized at that point she was still in hypnosis she never came out of it when she got sick. Yeah right and but she was releasing whatever that that this bag was representing for her in her life like she was releasing all of that yeah she was in the middle of that hypnosis yes it was the most amazing experience that I ever witnessed yeah I'm just truly honored right that that was able to do that.

SPEAKER_00 34:01

Well and I love that hypnosis like you said it it it can it absolutely sheds a light on things that we might not always be aware of. Yes um and especially when there's so many of us walking around like in comas then there's definitely not awareness happening. Yeah you know absolutely so um so like even you know it's used for people to quit smoking because you get to identify where the addiction's coming from and then you have the power over everything.

SPEAKER_01 34:31

Um the knowledge is power right so uh you know people that have severe crippling anxiety uh panic attacks you know they get to explore where that's coming from and and how to you know move through it differently and and they have a better understanding of of it all around um yeah and so it can be uh you know it can it's definitely a great modality yes I love it um I do I love it I've used um past life hypnosis on myself but of course on all my clients um I've even used it to help me let go of control yeah so um like I've used it and basically I've set that part of me into a control room and just let it play with all the buttons and let it act like it's in control to allow me to just be in this state of allowance. Yeah you know and be able to get there and do that. I think it's one I mean I think it can tell somebody a lot about themselves and if you're open to discover that and then once you see maybe what is a potential root cause for an addiction or an anxiety or a behavior that you're able to take the steps necessary to heal from that release it. The healing doesn't necessarily take place in the past life hypnosis. A lot of times most of it's gonna take place in your waking life but that just gives you a tool to help you identify it. Yeah it's still tapping that wire though and then it ripples out yeah yeah yeah but I believe that once you take care of that here it's gonna take care of it there too.

SPEAKER_00 36:10

Yeah and what other where other lifelines that that's connected into yeah um and so one of the questions I have too about like uh your perspective on past lives is is um I tend to come from a place of like presence is the most powerful point and like all lives are happening happening simultaneously so are you able to speak on that like how like how you feel about that too I definitely um yes I definitely feel that they're all happy simultaneously and I also feel that if you reach a certain um is it like threshold like if you reach a certain level here like in this waking it's gonna take effect in all others too and also feel that it's also takes effects in our higher self that's sitting wherever our home is right yeah and so like if you are advancing in this space your healing in this space is is hitting on all of those yeah it's past present future healing it's like everything yeah and it goes everywhere and if you if you're really connected into that that signal and and like if you're really connected into that signal you can probably actually feel it.

SPEAKER_01 37:32

Yeah but it's gonna be very well kind of like she did like she even threw up you definitely feel yeah you'll feel that yeah and like you said her ankle was hurting well I bet it healed after that because she wasn't carrying the weight anymore right yeah absolutely yeah yeah so I mean it was called you know and I mean yeah her her ankle was better right she she didn't have any more issues I it probably took maybe a few days afterwards because whatever you go in that I don't want anyone to get the impression that oh if I go to do a past life hypnosis because of you know this chronic pain that I have that as soon as I come out of that I'm gonna be healed I I don't want to give that impression because I just feel there's still yeah because it's not magic there still has to be a lot of integrating that happens and sometimes that can take our stubborn fucking humans a while. Yes but I will say that if you've never but I will say that once you go through a past life I tell all my clients this like once you go through it I tell them I was like you know over the next few weeks up to several months things are going to start coming to you you've opened the door yeah you've opened that door so you're going to get hits and you're going to get more and more and more like I can tell you there was a past life that's literally shaky it's literally rocking the boat. Yeah really yeah and like I mean I was in the passenger seat you know coming back from from Florida and then all of a sudden I saw a past life just like bam all of a sudden it didn't explain my fear of snakes for years. Yeah you know they came out of nowhere and I was just like okay but yeah I still don't like snakes but I'm not as terrified of them today.

SPEAKER_00 39:20

Right.

SPEAKER_01 39:21

You know, as I used to be I still I guess have some work around it.

SPEAKER_00 39:24

I don't I'm not really interested in working on that but well no actually you bring up a really good point though like I also had a massive fear of snakes and in retrospect I know exactly where that was like why that happened um and it was actually about when I was younger or I guess when I was a teenager rather I was really really scared of snakes especially the poisonous ones right like obviously but I didn't really understand why I also had a fear of sharks that I didn't really understand why which stemmed from my mom which in retrospect now I can appreciate sharks. I'm still not gonna fucking swimming with one but like I'm not having nightmares about them all the time anymore. Like they don't scare me. Snakes also don't scare me but when I was a kid they did scare me all the time and I ended up with somebody in my future that had snake snakes for pets and he was the worst thing that ever happened to me and my kids. Very abusive very horrible like vibration altogether and someone I wish to never even speak that that name because it's so disgusting to me. So that's where the snake hits were coming from and now in retrospect I get it like I my younger self saw that future like I was picking up on it somewhere right so now now I've ended up in it this isn't hypnotherapy necessarily but it's kind of how it works. I ended up getting a pet snake raising one hand raising one and now my fears of snakes are different. They're not I still don't want to go play in a pit of vipers right like I'm not gonna go do that. But I I'm not afraid of them anymore. Not like that. Okay. Um yeah so I was able to heal it by like leaning in well cool let me go figure out how to you know expect respect and appreciate this being this this creature so I ended up with a pet and raising it uh from the day it hatched to till it was five. And that changed everything for me. And and that's kind of how hypnotherapy works like you end up it does you know uh facing the things and learning about where they're stemming from and then you get to lean into it differently you know I and another thing that I do uh that's similar in nature is like um you know just this last week actually my right wrist was really really hurting to the point that I couldn't even pick up a cup of water I've never in my entire life felt pain like that and I haven't felt it since right so it only lasted for the one 24 hour period and I knew it was because I was I needed to put something down yeah and I did and then my wrist was fine.

SPEAKER_01 42:14

How about that?

SPEAKER_00 42:15

Yeah so it's it's wild how our you know how things show up in our body.

SPEAKER_01 42:20

Yeah absolutely yeah everything that we sense in our body yeah I'm gonna say everything like I kind of want to argue with that a little bit but I'm hearing no don't argue with it. So everything that we experience within our body is coming from something else. Yeah you know either something we're ignoring or something we're refusing to accept or something that we're refusing to let go of right like we're holding on to um yeah I I want to argue that so bad but I can't that's that intuition just so you know like yeah that me wanting to argue is me but the the point that I can it's the intuition because it's not wrong you know yeah and so sometimes we do argue with their intuition so oh I have knockdown drag out fight with my guides like I absolutely my human wants to punch them in the face half the time like I like yeah and and I've actually had big arguments too like you're talking about like I'm like um I've been presented with and this is funny because you said earlier if it's outside of your norm that's how it's a really good indication of your intuition which is so true.

SPEAKER_00 43:32

And I'm gonna go ahead and say sometimes that outside of our norm is extremely scary territory and feels it like for me it felt like scary even like I was being violated. I was like whoa hey I feel like you're pushing something on me that I'm not okay with and blah like it was really extreme and it was the very thing I needed to do and was so glad I did and I was like whoa that was wild like because I like there was an example I had probably about a year ago where I don't want to get into the story too much but basically uh my guides got louder and louder over a three day span uh to the point that they were stalking and harassing me and I couldn't even think because it was so loud. So I couldn't ignore it. Like that's where they force they're basically forcing you into something they're forcing the action like because GitHub's moving. So I did even though I'm arguing with them for three days and I'm like fuck off that's insane. I'm not doing that like all of those conversations are happening and even at the moment at the time I was I remember being like that is morally and unethically fucked up I'm not doing that. Like I was like absolutely not but then I ended up doing it because I was the urgency was being pushed so hard I did the thing and I was like oh oh my God now I know why you made me do that.

SPEAKER_01 44:59

And like by the end of that event I was like holy shit dude I'm so glad you pushed my ass through that like they had to pull me by my hand through it right and so sometimes it's like that it is yeah so yeah so you know when we ignore I I will say this because it's I mean it's something I'm still dealing with today when we ignore something they're gonna put you in a situation where it's gonna force it.

SPEAKER_00 45:26

That's exactly what happens and there and I think that's what happened. It was like either take this window and do the thing or you move into a trajectory where it gets much harder.

SPEAKER_01 45:38

Yeah so yeah so I worked for the federal government for 22 years and knew years before that was time for me to leave, but I was comfortable. Yeah. And I didn't want to step out of that comfort zone. Yeah. And then I got then I got laid off um yeah by you know I got doged. That's what we call it. We got doged. So we got riffed. Um I mean it's been a little over a year, right? And so I mean and I mean now I've opened up my own shop, you know, my own brick and mortar in this, but oh my God, it's terrifying.

SPEAKER_00 46:17

But also like look how the universe had your back. It's like, hey dude, yeah, like you've got bigger and better things to do. So we're gonna do this for you. Like it's that's how we learn how to trust the process right there because it just like opens up abundance for us in so many ways. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:32

So likely I mean yeah so I'm I'm very I mean I'm very thankful like the I've never had to put um like the the rent in the space like it's all it was all covered itself like there's nothing that I had to take out of my own wallet you know to pay for that because it paid for itself. So but trusting that is I mean it's scary. It can it can make you sit in a room and cry because you don't know what's going to come next because you have no control. Yes. But realizing that allowing yourself to let go of that control then things better than you can even imagine can happen from that.

SPEAKER_00 47:12

Yeah absolutely I we hold ourselves back.

SPEAKER_01 47:16

Yeah we do we limit ourselves yeah 100% and um because we we have a lot of times many of us have such a limited thought process that we can't see beyond our own selves. Yeah right we can't understand that you know things can happen and it doesn't necessarily have to be the traditional way of what we know.

SPEAKER_00 47:41

Yeah you know we've been brought up with these these traditional methods but well and a lot of times those traditions have actually been very harmful. Yes they're they program us and they condition us to this is the way it's always done. So if you deviate outside of that you're the devil.

SPEAKER_01 47:58

Well no that's that's yeah that's the problem with the world actually yeah yeah yeah yeah so it's just I mean I think it's just amazing I think it's just all amazing I'm gonna tell you I've been doing this work for um a decade and a half and I still get amazed.

SPEAKER_00 48:19

Yeah yeah right that yeah because that's why we keep going actually because we have to remember to believe in magic too and yeah that's exactly what it is.

SPEAKER_01 48:29

Yeah but yeah but crazy things happen all the time and I just quit questioning it I just I just embrace it and just be okay. Yeah yeah I uh I still struggle with it sometimes like because my human my humans human yeah we're human we're born to and so like I again I will absolutely get in knockdown drag out fights with my guys and be like you're stupid I'm never doing that and then the next day I'm doing it I'm like okay whatever I know I was telling somebody like I was like thankfully my car almost drives itself like it'll stay in the lane and it'll keep pace from hitting someone else you know yeah I was like thank goodness because one day I got so mad at my guides and it's been recently like within the last couple months and I'm screaming and yelling and pitching a pit and I'm driving down the road and I'm just like ah this is like thank goodness because yeah but I think it's healthy to let the frustration out.

SPEAKER_00 49:28

Well right that's that's that's part of our gift of being human is we're allowed to experience all of those things. That's how again that's really how it goes back to trusting ourselves is because we allow allow so much of our humanity. Yeah but yeah I mean yeah if you get frustrated I mean let it out it doesn't mean that for sure just it doesn't mean that you hate your guides even though I say it all the time um it doesn't mean that your guides love you less because oh my God you threw a tantrum God doesn't love you less because you got pissed off and told them to get bent like that doesn't happen. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:05

Yeah that doesn't happen yet and you know it kills me when people say well I screamed and yelled and cussed at my guys so now they're punishing me.

SPEAKER_00 50:12

I was like no they're not punishing you yeah that's wild to me that people like actually still believe I mean it's not wild because I get we're all programmed a certain way but like still people are like oh karma's a punishment no karma's action oriented it's not a punishment. Yeah um it's not like some past life is punishing you for the present that's not that's so fear based and so wrong it's just so misconstrued. But then also like oh I had a fit and now I have to go pray for forgiveness because I told God to fuck off. God doesn't care. No like why are you at forgiveness for what you didn't do anything wrong.

SPEAKER_01 50:46

Yeah yeah there yeah there is no right or wrong and it's the right or wrong that we humans put around everything that makes it what it is you know it just is and let me tell you they're gonna understand more you're pitching a fit screaming and yelling and than we even do than you do yeah yeah that is so true that is like the loudest truth happening right now is like they actually have more unconditional understanding and love of our situations than we even do. Yeah and I honestly they probably see it coming before we do.

SPEAKER_00 51:20

Oh guaranteed yeah because they knew what we agreed to before we came we don't even remember all of that yeah yeah I would agree with that 100%