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The PGspot - When Silence Isn’t Protective: Talking to Kids About Porn

Patty Jalomo Season 1 Episode 23

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Pornography is no longer something kids “might” encounter someday, it’s something many are exposed to earlier than parents expect. And when we don’t talk about it, the internet becomes their primary teacher.

In this episode, we explore why avoiding the conversation about pornography doesn’t protect kids, and how silence can unintentionally create shame, secrecy, and confusion. You’ll learn what research says about early exposure, why curiosity is developmentally normal, and how proactive, age-appropriate conversations can strengthen trust rather than threaten innocence.

We’ll also discuss how to approach these conversations calmly and confidently, what messages kids actually need to hear, and how open dialogue lays the groundwork for healthier relationships, stronger boundaries, and long-term sexual wellbeing.

This isn’t about fear. It’s about preparation, connection, and becoming a safe place for your child in a world where explicit content is only a click away.

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Welcome to the PG spot where our goal is to take the X outta sex by breaking down the barriers that prevent open communication about sexual health. I'm Dr. Patty Jalomo. A dual certified nurse practitioner, pelvic floor therapist, and certified sexual counselor. I'm here to provide expert insights, debunk myths, and empower you to embrace your sexual wellbeing. Whether you're looking for answers or simply curious, join us as we open up the conversation around sex, intimacy and everything in between. I want to take this opportunity to acknowledge that some content may not be appropriate for all listeners. I'm a huge proponent of honest and accurate information regarding sexuality, but I'm also mindful that this should be age appropriate. Therefore, if you are under 18, this may not be the podcast. For you. Additionally, some of the language used in this podcast may be offensive to some listeners. Please take these things into consideration before going forward with your consensual participation in this podcast. The opinions expressed by myself or my guests are just that, and these opinions are neither expected nor required to be shared by all listeners. The information that is provided is for educational and entertainment purposes only, and should not be mistaken for individual medical advice. If you would like to schedule a virtual visit for individual or couples sexual counseling or menopause management, you can contact me via my website@thepgspot.com. Thanks for listening, and let's get on with the show. Welcome to the PG spot. I'm your host, Dr. Patty Jalomo, and today we're talking about one of the most avoided parenting conversations, and that's pornography. If your child has access to the internet, they will likely see pornography, not because they're bad or because you failed as a parent, but because we live in a world where sexual content is one click away, and often it's not even sought out intentionally. Many large surveys have found that the average age that kids first see pornography is about 12 to 13 years old. In fact, some children in surveys reported seeing explicit material as young as six years old, most often by accident through social media or shared links. So the question isn't if your child will encounter pornography, it's will they be prepared when they do, And even more importantly, will they feel safe enough to tell you if you want to raise kids with strong values, deep integrity, and a healthy view of sexuality, this conversation matters more than you think. So today's episode isn't about panic or policing the internet. It's about something far more powerful. How to talk to your kids about porn in a way that strengthens connection instead of creating shame. So here's a hard truth. I work with adults all the time who are still carrying sexual shame from messages that they absorbed in childhood. not because they were exposed to sex, but because they were exposed to sex without guidance, without context, without a calm, trusted adult, helping them make sense of it. It's important to realize that silence is not protective. Silence just means the internet becomes the sex educator, and the internet is not invested in your child's emotional health. Now I want to say something that might feel relieving to some of you and uncomfortable to others. Pornography itself is not the primary threat to your child. Isolation is shame is. Secrecy is when kids don't feel safe talking about what they've seen or what they're curious about. They're left to make sense of it on their own. So in this episode, we're going to talk about it. Including why avoiding the conversation actually increases risk, how to have age appropriate conversations, what to say and how to say it. How shame gets wired into the brain, and how to build sexual literacy without losing your values. There's a lot to discuss, so let's get into it. Let's talk about why avoiding this conversation feels protective, but often does the opposite. Most parents don't avoid talking about porn because they don't care. Talking about sex in general can be uncomfortable and awkward, but it doesn't have to be. The best approach is to start early in an age appropriate way and make it a normal conversation. When parents can make it less of a taboo or mysterious topic, children will be more open to bringing up their questions and concerns. Parents often avoid these conversations because they're afraid of introducing something too soon, saying the wrong thing, or in the case of porn, accidentally normalizing something that they themselves don't agree with. And although those things are all understandable, we know that developmentally silence doesn't preserve innocence. It just removes guidance. if your child encounters pornography, and statistically most will, they will interpret what they see through whatever framework they already have. If that framework says Sex is bad or curiosity is wrong, or even I'll get in trouble if I tell, then the experience doesn't just stay visual. It becomes emotional, It becomes a secret, and that is what changes the trajectory. When kids don't feel safe bringing confusing experiences to a calm adult, they process it alone. And when they process it alone, their brains start pairing things together. Arousal with fear, curiosity with guilt, excitement with shame. That wiring can follow them into adulthood. I see it all the time, not only in my counseling practice, but also when working with patients in pelvic floor therapy, adults who were never given language for what they experienced, just silence or punishment. When a child learns that a sexual curiosity leads to shame, their nervous system encodes that lesson, not just as a belief, but as a body response. The pelvic floor is incredibly responsive to emotion, fear, anxiety, embarrassment. They all increase muscle tone, and if sexuality repeatedly activates shame, the body starts to guard. Guarding can become chronic. Chronic guarding becomes pain. I work with women whose bodies clamp down during penetration. Women who feel numb, women who can't relax even when they want to. Often, there's nothing structurally wrong. Their bodies just learned that sexuality wasn't safe. But this isn't just about women. I see it in men too. When boys grow up with silence, fear, or heavy moral messaging around sexuality, their bodies can also encode sex as performance pressure or danger. And what does anxiety do? It activates the sympathetic nervous system, which is the exact opposite of what erections require. Erections are parasympathetic, they depend on relaxation and blood flow. When a man is anxious, his body shifts into fight or flight. This can look like erectile dysfunction, or it can look like the opposite, rushing premature ejaculation driven by tension and urgency in the nervous system. So shame creates pressure. Pressure creates hyper hypervigilance, and hypervigilance disrupts arousal. And just like with women, many men assume that this is a mechanical failure, a hormone problem, or a willpower issue, but sometimes it's none of those. Sometimes it's a body that learned that sexuality is high stakes. And here's the part we miss. When kids aren't given language, they aren't given integration. So the body carries what the mind couldn't process. Silence doesn't stay silent. It turns into muscle memory, tension, and avoidance. It turns into dysfunction That feels confusing and deeply personal. We know from research on chronic pelvic pain and nervous system regulation that shame and fear change muscle tone and arousal pathways, but it doesn't have to be this way. when we as parents can start early and give kids language, we change that wiring. We teach their nervous systems that curiosity is normal, that their bodies are safe, and that questions don't equal shame. here's another piece that matters. When parents react with panic or anger After discovering exposure, even if that reaction comes from love, the child learns very quickly that this topic is not safe here. And once that message is learned, it's hard to undo because kids are wired for attachment. And if telling you threatens connection, they will protect the attachment by withholding information. Avoiding the conversation also creates a vacuum, which can then get filled by peers or social media influencers or search engines and algorithms that are designed to keep attention, not protect development. So if you want to be the loudest most stabilizing voice in your child's sexual development, you have to be in the conversation, not after something goes wrong, but before. Now, I know some of you might be thinking, but if I bring it up, won't that plant the idea? Talking about porn does not make a child more likely to seek it out, but not talking about it makes them more likely to navigate it alone. And alone is where distortion happens because porn doesn't explain consent. Emotional intimacy, mutual pleasure or respect. It is entertainment and without context, entertainment becomes education. Research and clinical experience consistently show that age appropriate sex education does not increase risky behavior. In fact, research shows that there are lower teenage pregnancy rates in countries with robust, comprehensive sex education, such as the Netherlands, Finland, Swen, and Switzerland. Additionally, a large meta-analysis found that when parents talk with adolescents about sexual topics, including risks and relationships, youth are more likely to engage in safer sexual behavior later in adolescence, Even if this research isn't porn specific, it supports the broader idea that communication matters more than silence. So while avoiding these conversations may reduce your discomfort, it increases your child's isolation. Isolation is where shame grows, but connection is what interrupts that cycle. So if silence backfires, what does talking about it actually look like? Let's break down how to approach this conversation in developmentally appropriate ways because what you say to a 6-year-old is very different than what you say to a 16-year-old. Remember, this should not be a one-time conversation, but rather a series of small age appropriate conversations over time. The goal is to build sexual literacy gradually. Let's break it down by developmental age For younger children between the ages of approximately five to eight, the goal is to reinforce safety and openness. At this age, we're not giving graphic explanations, but rather laying the groundwork. You're teaching body autonomy, correct names for body parts, privacy and safe versus unsafe content. You might say something like, sometimes people put pictures or videos of private body parts on the internet. If you ever see something that makes you feel confused or uncomfortable, I want you to tell me you'll not be in trouble. It's important to make sure that they understand that they won't get in trouble for being curious because if they think curiosity equals punishment, they won't come to you. To promote body autonomy and consent, you could say something like, your body belongs to you. Nobody should make you feel uncomfortable with their body or yours, or if you're curious about anything, it's okay to ask. Asking questions is normal. The tone should be calm and matter of fact, not moralizing or judgmental. As children reach the preteen years between ages nine to 12, it's important to normalize curiosity as this is often when exposure begins to happen. You might say something like, You might come across something online called pornography. It's videos or pictures of adults being sexual. It's made for adults, not kids, and it doesn't show what real relationships are like. Remember the tone is calm and informative, not shaming. You could add something like it's okay to feel curious about bodies. That's normal, but porn isn't designed to teach you about love or relationships. And remind them if they ever have questions about what they saw, their bodies or their feelings, they can ask you. This is a great opportunity to introduce media literacy. Help them understand that the things that they see in porn or on the internet are for adult entertainment. Explain that it's not real life relationships and it's exaggerated. It leaves out emotional connection and doesn't show consent, conversations, or mutual communication. At this age, the goal is curiosity, context, and critical thinking. By adolescence, the conversation deepens. Teens are capable of more abstract thinking, so it's important to address consent, respect, emotional intimacy, unrealistic expectations, and the brain's response to novelty and stimulation. You might say porn is designed to be exciting and novel. That doesn't make you bad, but it can shape what you expect from relationships if you're not thinking critically about it. This is also where you can integrate your family's values. Instead of saying, don't ever watch that. Try saying something like, in our family, we value, respect, consent, and care in relationships, porn doesn't always show that, so let's talk about the difference. These are very different approaches. One approach is about control, while the other is about guidance. Remember that the goals for teens are integration, values and reflection. They need internal values more than external policing because at some point you'll not be monitoring their devices. In fact, a large survey by Common Sense Media found that about 73% of teens, ages 13 to 17 reported having watched online pornography and more than half said they saw it by age 13. Of those 58% reported accidental exposure, including things like unexpected images while browsing social media or misdirected links, popups or autoplay features. A 2022 Common sense media report found that about 30% of teens reported being exposed to pornography during the school day, Often on school, wifi or school issued devices. This is why it's so important to have these conversations early and frequently. As I mentioned, this can be uncomfortable for most parents. A key principle at every age is to regulate yourself first. If you bring anxiety, disgust, or moral urgency into the conversation, your child will absorb that energy. If you bring steadiness, curiosity and clarity, they'll absorb that. Instead, your goal is to attach curiosity to wisdom, attach sexuality to values, and attach exposure to conversation. Now even with the best preparation, sometimes you won't find out until after exposure has already happened. So let's say you find out your child has already seen pornography. Maybe they stumbled across it online or a friend showed it to them, or maybe they've been exploring it on their own. They important thing to remember is that your reaction in that moment matters more than how or when they were exposed, because kids are wired for attachment and if telling you about something sexual. Feels like it will threaten that attachment. They will protect it by hiding. So instead of interrogation, ask questions with curiosity such as. Can you tell me what you saw? How did that make you feel? What questions do you have about it? In doing this, you're not shaming, but simply gathering information and opening a dialogue. Once you understand what they saw and how they felt, you can offer grounding information. Let them know that it's normal to feel curious. Explain that porn is made for adults, That it shows bodies and sexual acts, but it doesn't show what real relationships look like and reassure them that if they ever feel confused, embarrassed, or worried, they can come to you. They will never be in trouble for being honest and bringing these concerns to you, that simple reassurance protects trust. Remember, the way you respond now decides whether curiosity shuts down in shame or grows into healthy understanding. Now let's talk about shame and religious conditioning. In many families, curiosity gets tangled up with fear and guilt. your kids might hear things like, sex is dangerous, curiosity is sinful. Good kids don't think about sex. And if that's the lens that your child grows up with, even normal curiosity can trigger shame. Shame is powerful because it attaches to experiences and memories. When curiosity and arousal are paired with fear or guilt, the brain starts linking sexual desire with danger. As I mentioned, that wiring can follow someone into adulthood, showing up as things like low desire, anxiety about intimacy. Avoidance of sexual experiences or even secretive or compulsive behaviors. So the problem isn't curiosity, but how it's processed emotionally. The good news is that you can interrupt shame by offering a different narrative. Instead of implying that curiosity is sinful, explain that it's normal to be curious about bodies and sexuality, and that values can coexist with curiosity. This way, they learn to integrate sexuality without fear. This is exactly the opposite of secrecy and shame, and it's the foundation of sexual confidence and healthy intimacy later in life. So here are some tips to encourage ongoing conversations about sex and intimacy. One, keep it small and frequent. Short casual conversations work better than a single dramatic talk. Two, use teachable moments. A movie, TV show or something they overheard can be a natural way to start a discussion. Three, invite questions without pressuring. Ask your kids if they have questions about something they saw online. Four. Normalize uncertainty. Let them know that it's okay not to have all the answers that you can figure it out together. And five reinforced trust repeatedly reassure them that they can always come to you and that their questions are normal and safe. Here's the heart of it. You don't have to be perfect. You don't have to have all the answers or control the internet. What matters most is connection, your calm presence, willingness to listen, and your ability to normalize curiosity. That's what shapes your child's sexual development. More than any talk, any rule or any device filter ever could. If your child can talk to you about porn, they can talk to you about anything. Thank you for joining me today. I hope this episode helps you feel more confident having these conversations, even if they are uncomfortable. Remember, your connection matters more than anything else. If you've found this helpful, please share it with another parent who might need encouragement. And stay tuned for future episodes where we dive into healthy sexual development, shame reduction, and building lasting intimacy in families. That's it for today's episode. Thanks for listening, and be sure to rate and review the podcast on whatever platform you're listening from and share it with your friends. That's a great way to help reach new listeners and make this a more sex positive world. Until next time, stay curious, stay empowered, and stay you.