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Alternate Timelines with Ian Vogel
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Alternate Timelines with Ian Vogel
Life Beyond Lives | The Power of Past-Life Regression & Akashic Guidance w/Jessica Wiler
What if your past lives aren’t just stories—but messages?
In this episode, I sit down with hypnotherapist and Akashic records reader Jessica Wiler to explore how our previous incarnations, life-between-lives journeys, and future potentials all intersect to guide our present moment.
We talk about using past life regression not just for healing, but as a way to access your own intuitive gifts. Jessica explains how she helps people move through fear—not only the fear of dying, but the fear of truly living.
We also dive into:
– Life-between-lives sessions and what really happens after death
– How the Akashic Records can help you reconnect with purpose
– Future life sessions and how to feel into potential timelines
– Integration: why it’s the most overlooked part of any spiritual practice
If you've ever asked Why am I here?, Why is this life so hard?, or Have I lived before?—this conversation will resonate. And if you’ve ever felt like your soul has been through more than this one lifetime… it probably has.
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Timestamps:
00:36 Jessica's Journey into Spiritual Practices
04:03 Discovering and Training in Past Life Regression
09:30 Understanding the Akashic Records
10:58 Common Themes in Past Life Regression
13:10 Life Between Lives
18:03 Balancing Spiritual Practices and Daily Life
26:07 Future Live Exploration
28:13 Integration Practices After Regression
32:08 Nurturing Psychic Children
35:14 Facing the Fear of Death and Living Fully
47:16 Connecting with Spirit Guides
49:47 Animal Communication and Past Lives
53:06 Conclusion and Contact Information
About the Guest:
Jessica Wiler is the founder of Spirit Explorations, an LA-based practice offering Past-Life Regression, Life-Beyond-Lives sessions, Akashic Record readings, Kundalini Reiki and intuitive hypnotherapy. A National Guild–certified hypnotherapist, Reiki Master and NLP practitioner, Jessica blends energy work with trance techniques to help clients release fear, discover purpose and open their own intuitive channels. Her globe-trotting résumé (46 countries and counting) and down-to-earth humor make deep soul work feel surprisingly accessible.
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what most people don't realize is that your past lives are there to give you guidance. So it's almost like your past self are teaching your current self either what to do or what not to do. One time my spirit guides said to me, they're like, you're supposed to make people less afraid of death, you're also supposed to make people less afraid to live. We are also in control of our timelines. They're trying to tell me, they're telling me now that if we are really choosing to live on a fear-based timeline, we'll attract more of that energy.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:Jessica, if I were to meet you at a neighborhood barbecue and I asked you what you did, how would you respond?
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:I would say that I, um, I talk to a lot of invisible friends,
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:I.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:which usually does get people's, uh, curiosity peaked for sure. So, but yeah, I deal with the spirit realm. I am a, uh, hypnotherapist, um, who specializes in past life regression. I also am a channeler, um, that focuses mostly on a caic record readings, and I do reiki and um, right now I'm also trying to do development and mediumship.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:Okay. You know, I've had a lot of conversations with people who are in your line of work and, and do channeling, mediumship, uh, past life regression, hypnotherapy, things like that. And I always find it fascinating how each individual person. Takes all those different modalities that they've learned and find a way to combine it into one unique sort of offering. So I suppose, what is your favorite thing to do. So if somebody, if somebody reaches out to you and is looking for, for somebody to help them, like what are the kinds of situations or cases or clients that you get the most excited to work with?
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:Uh, yes. Yeah. So we do like to put them all together like a recipe, I would say.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:Yeah.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:thing that I've seen to be. The thing that I do the most in the sessions I'd like to offer the most would be past life regression. And the reason I say this is because a lot of people, when I do channeling for them, they're like, wow, that's amazing. I wish I could do that. I say to them, you can, and the best way for me to get them to do that is through past life regression. not only are they actually getting to go back and see their past lives, but they're actually getting to understand what channeling is as well. after they come out of a session, I'm like, look, you just did what I did and you can keep on doing it. So if I can help someone like open up that communication with channeling, I mean, then they can just start to get all their guidance on their own.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:That's super interesting. I, I have never really thought of that and I. On some level, I intuitively understood that that was happening, but I'd never considered using a past life regression as a gateway to help demonstrate for people that they have the capacity to use channeling to, to help themselves. I believe in, you know, pretty much everybody who does this understands that we all have the ability to. Utilize these gifts and these extra sensory perceptions and these psychic abilities, ev, everybody's got them. But it's cool that you found a way to, to help people realize that themselves and have a tangible experience of that so that they can, you know, kind of spark that or open up that door for them so they can continue, they can continue to do that work and explore that on their own time.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:Yeah, I think it's the fastest way to, to open up your third eye and get more intuitive knowledge for sure.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:what got you into doing past life regression, uh, hypnosis and, and offering these sessions? Uh, I, I think it's always fascinating to find out like how somebody comes to the point where they're not only doing it themselves, but offering it for other people and facilitating these experiences for, for others.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:Yeah, it is quite a unique career, isn't it? don't have like a brochure on it, like during career day of school. Do they?
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:Yeah, definitely not.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:gonna be the first one to make one. Um, I didn't expect to do this, I don't think most of us do, but you know, we're all on our spiritual journeys and like when you follow the breadcrumbs, it just kind of leads you to where you're supposed to be. So, I mean, I've, I've had a long spiritual journey, but what actually got me into past life regression is I was, um, doing training in, uh, channeling and a kasic record ratings, I was asking the Kasic records like, you know, what should I be doing in this lifetime? Like, what is my purpose? the answer I got wasn't what I was expecting. I was really kind of blown away by it. Um, but you know. Also not. So I was in there in meditation and I was getting certain messages, and the first one I got is, um, I'm supposed to make people less afraid of death. And I'm like, oh, okay, that's, that sounds pretty big. And they're like, take a deep breath, you can do this. And I'm asking like, how can I make people less afraid of death? And they would not gimme the answer. And they said, that's for you to find. So I sat with it for a while. Um, I was not thinking about past life regression. What I was thinking about is reiki, which is what I was already doing, and like going to nursing homes and like helping people that are,
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:Hmm.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:you know, about to cross over. And I was getting like thumbs up from the spirit world, but they're like, but keep going, keep going. I'm like, I don't know. I don't know. But with time, um, I would say I. I do remember my friend gave me this recording about like quantum jumping, and also there was something about past life regression in there. do remember trying the recording and getting like snippets of past lives and I thought that was really cool, it didn't really hook into me right away. But then I started to read books like, uh, like Mi Michael Newton and Dr. Brian, we that have all those great books about past life regressions. And then like the little bell went off in my head I'm like, oh. so then I'm like, I gotta do this. Um, but the thing is I wanted to get trained in past life regression, and I was living in Asia at the time and I was looking everywhere where I was. I was in Singapore, there was no training in past life regression. like, what am I gonna do? So I was meditating on it as well and, uh, asking for more guidance and I was getting other messages about like, you need to go to Los Angeles. I'm like, oh, okay. That's interesting. Am I really gonna uproot my life and just go to Los Angeles? And they're like, well, get ready to. So I let that sit for a while and they were also giving me messages. Like you have more. Um, they were telling me you're also supposed to go to Hollywood to help balance out the darkness. I'm like, that sounds really intense as well. I'm like, well, can you give it to me in smaller chunks? But anyways, I did actually uproot my life. I did move to Los Angeles. I did find someone to train with, um, to be a hypnotherapist that specializes in past life regression. I am currently, it seems like, helping out some people in Hollywood. You know, tried to balance out the darkness of Hollywood. So here I am following what I learned from the Akashic records.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:Man, that is a heavy lift. I lived in Southern California for a period of. Time and Southern California is amazing and it's, you know, attracts so many people. There's, you know, anything you could ever want to do, you can find access to there. Uh, very diverse. And just LA itself is, it's an incredible place, but the, the energy there is super intense and I got to the point where I didn't even like driving through la I just like. Is there, there's just a lot of energy there. So how do you manage and how do you maintain a, a grounded and centered life such that you can have a positive impact on your clients, and so that you can show up in a way that's that's grounded and clear for them.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:Mm, yes. I have to go to the beach quite often and just really plant my feet in the sand. Um, but in general, yes, you are absolutely right. There is a lot of energy here, but there are also a lot of beautiful. Individuals, uh, with a mission. And I really appreciate that. So when I'm connecting with those people here, it gives me a lot of, um, energy and inspiration. And again, it just makes me feel like I'm not alone. I mean, there is quite a big spiritual community here. I think that we are pulled to this area'cause this area really needs it.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:So when you're talking about Akashic record readings, how would you describe the Akashic records? Like how, how would you define that?
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:Yeah, I know mine, it does feel a little bit different for everyone. I know like the general, uh, term people would say is like, it's a cosmic database of, um. Our lives, like, uh, who we were in the past, who we are now, and I would say potential futures. Some people just say futures, but I say potential futures because I really believe that we have free will. We might have like certain lessons that we're meant to learn, but I feel like we have different paths to get there. But I mean, you can access the Akesha record through channeling, which is to me is just like meditation, but you're like trying to tune into a certain, um. Brainwave, which is basically the same one that you can feel like when you're in hypnosis. And for me, when I go in there, it's just like a, a place of love. It's, it feel like all the beautiful souls are greeting me and for me it just feels like, um, I go to them for guidance. you can go to them, you can get past life information, you can get more information about like who you are now. But in general, they're just really trying to help us with our purpose, our mission. And I will say like some people think you can go in there and ask anything, but there's sometimes there's only so much information you're allowed to know at this time. You can't, you can't know the lottery numbers I asked. I didn't win the lottery yet.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:So when somebody comes to you for a past life regression or an Akashic records reading, what are some typical themes and, you know, things that you see over and over again? Different reasons people are coming to you that are, that are fairly common.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:Yeah, it seems like most people are coming, uh, to find out what their purpose is. That seems to be the question that's most asked, of course. Um, another theme is they wanna know about love. Will they find love or maybe something about their love interest. they come with these really profound questions and at the end they try to sneak in one about their love life, which is fine. I think it's cute. Um. Yeah, but mostly it seems to be based around purpose or just, um, yeah, the bigger questions like why Yeah, why am I here? What am I supposed to be doing? Um,'cause a lot of people are like, think there has to be more to life and there can't be. Yeah. I really appreciate those kind of questions and insights that we get, um, for past life regression as well. It's really can be connected to your purpose too. When you do a past life regression, which I know you have done quite a few, right? It, what most people don't realize is that your past lives are there to give you guidance. For what's currently going on now. So it's almost like your past self are teaching your current self either like what to do or what not to do. They either be your cheerleaders and like, keep going, keep going. Or maybe like, stop reassess, maybe pivot. Don't do what you did in this past life. So yeah, it's, it's like connecting. Uh. different versions of ourself to our current self. Like I feel like our past lives are like our support team and our spirit guide, so I'm just trying to connect people to our spiritual support system.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:You know, you mentioned when we last spoke that you do in between life readings. Like, what does that entail? I, I know often when doing a, a past life regression, there, there are situations where you potentially regress to that space in between lives. I know that happens, but it sounds like you're doing that in a very intentional way and I'm curious about, about that.'cause that's a little bit di a little bit of a different angle that many people don't seem to take.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:Yeah, so Dr. Um, Dr. Michael Newton has a book, um, I think it, yeah, life Between Lives. He does, um, life Between Life Sessions, so I do something similar to him. I call it Life Beyond Lives, just because I don't follow his exact techniques, but that is an extension of a past life regression. So, um, I do start off by taking you into a past life and then as you leave that life, we explore the afterlife, which is just really amazing place of unconditional love. as you like, leave your body and you, you will probably even get this in a past life regression, like you come outta your body, you leave it behind. You're usually greeted by like your spiritual support team. We'll say that, or some ancestors. There is usually some type of life review. Um, associated with this, and that is very fascinating because it's really a place of non-judgment, which is a little bit different than what most people think. Um, you kind of just, uh, yeah, you review your life, things that you could have done differently or things that you're really proud of, and then, um, then you start to assess what you wanna do in your next incarnation. So in the session, you might like to look into different bodies and different lives and try to choose what you want to experience. You can, uh, talk about certain lessons you wanna learn, like if you had like a past life and something that you wanna redo, we'll say that. Um, you can redo it again in this next life. And another version of yourself. Um, which is cool. It's kind of cool to like click on like, you're like choosing your avatar for the next life. You can kinda like, like if it's on a computer screen, you just kind of click on the person and see like, what kind of life would they have and would I learn my lessons. But beyond that, like you can also travel with your spirit team to like different realms. So this is also a place of rest and rejuvenation. So, and you, you don't, you just feel so light, like you don't have the density of the body and you're just. Surrounded by so much love and in this, in this state, um, between lives, you're just like merging. I don't know, I, I feel like everyone will see it a little bit differently, but usually you're just merging with source and you're merging with other souls and you're sharing information, um, and you're taking the information that you've learned from your previous life and it, and you're like depositing it into the collective consciousness. I would say some people will see it differently. I usually see it on, a lot of clients see it as like the tree of life. Um, so I feel like we're like attaching and we're like depositing our information and like we're all connected and we can just into each other's information, really makes you just feel so expansive and then you could just journey into the afterlife. You kind of can create this world that you. Never thought existed, but can exist. And it's just a really, a place of connection of all the souls. It's like this beautiful, emerging experience. And, don't know, I feel like it's a vacation sometimes. I have, I trade a obsessions with other hypnotherapist and I'm like, take me on vacation. Yeah. And then you choose, um, you, you can talk with your soul family. Which is usually, I would say, I don't know, five to 12 different souls that you usually reincarnate with. And um, funny thing is, I'm laughing because the spirit realm is actually quite hilarious. So sometimes you have like this. meeting with your spirit team and soul family and you're just joking around with them and sometimes like, who are we gonna be next time? It's almost like you're writing a script, I guess, for your next lifetime, and you're getting like this different, information, like how you're gonna build the cast of characters and who's gonna play which role each time. It's really funny. So yeah, I really recommend the life between Life session it is. I don't, you don't know where it's gonna go, but it always has some, some meaning to it. It's, it's, it's really beautiful.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:I've created quite a bit of content around reincarnation and talking about the, the journey that we go on after we leave the body. The. Life review and all the things that you described, and often in the comments of these videos that I put out, people will say, my life has been so hard. Why would I have ever chosen this? If I have the choice, I'm never coming back. And because I've had so much experience and. Have explored these spaces myself. I, I empathize with that and I say, yeah, and, you know, that's a wonderful place to be, but it's not a space of growth. Like you don't add any additional experience. You're, you're able to, like you said, it's a restful space, but that's not the space where you can really add new skills or add new lessons. So what would you say to somebody who. Who was questioning, why on earth would I have come here? Why would I have chosen this? Like I, there's no way that I would, would have ever chosen to do what I'm doing now.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:Even I feel that way sometimes. Yeah. Life is a, it is a test, isn't it? But it's like what you said it is just for so soul growth and sometimes when we're in this place, in this 3D reality, we don't understand it. why I think it's really helpful to have like past life regressions or life between lives.'cause you really do get a different view on things. Yeah, but I mean, I also joke about it all the time. I. Yeah, it is a challenge, isn't it? But there's beautiful moments to it too. I hope everyone can find those beautiful moments.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:I agree 100% and when it comes to doing past life regression and this sort of work. How much is too much? Uh, I've kind of crossed that line from time to time where I was really deep into doing a lot of past life regression meditations to the point where it felt like I became somewhat ungrounded and. Uh, yeah, ungrounded is probably just the best way to put it. I was having these really incredible out-of-body experiences visiting all these past lives, and I became somewhat disconnected from my current reality to the point where initially when I started doing it, it felt like it was helpful and it was helping me gain a new perspective and a new way to look at life. Until I tried to maintain that perspective for too long and then it became
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:Hmm
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:almost detri detrimental. So I'm curious as to your thoughts around that. What's, uh, how much is too much?
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:Yeah. I think this can be applied to like any spiritual practice, but were you doing them by yourself or with someone that was guiding you?
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:It was a self-guided,
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:Okay.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:um. A Dr. Brian Weiss video where he does, it's on YouTube. Anybody could find it. He does a, a guided self meditation and, and takes you back and it, it has worked for me every single time that I've done it, even from the very first time. For whatever reason, I, I feel like I'm. I'm kind of open to that anyway, so it was, it was an easy thing for me to do. I know not everybody has that experience right off the bat, but I've personally had a lot of success doing it that way. Um, so yeah, that, that's my primary experience with doing past life regression Meditations are, it's a self-induced, but I've also had a couple of QHHT sessions with different practitioners and, and those were both. Wonderful as well and it, and it was really actually nice to have somebody there to facilitate and lead the experience.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:Mm-hmm. Okay, good. Uh, just wanted to know before I answered. I also have a guided, um, past life regression online
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:Hmm.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:I do wanna make it accessible for everyone. Um, but to go back, to answer your question, um, I would say. I wouldn't do multiple past life regressions in a row. I really think that we need a integration period, and I'm bringing that up also because, or the reason I asked you is because you know, when you're working with another past life, regressionist, I feel like the integration is a little bit more solid than if you're doing it on your own. even. if you're working with someone, I mean, I think even like with like plant medicine and everything, I think like you need an integration period for most spiritual practices. There's some people that are so hungry and exciting, excited, you know, for more and more and more. But like take the breadcrumbs that you got, like, you know, let them digest. Try to put into practice what you've just learned before you go into the next level. Like we can't just keep jumping to grade, to grade to grade. Like it takes time. So, I mean, I've also had times in my life where I thought I was a little bit out of control. but that was, that was not something I planned on. I had like a, a spontaneous kundalini awakening that made me feel really ungrounded. So I just needed to calm down for a bit, I would say. Just try to do things that make you feel more grounded. Um, sometimes you need to take even a little bit of a break from spiritual practices'cause we are in this life and we chose it. It's great to receive all this information and experiences and spirituality, but I feel like everything is a balance.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:It's interesting that you brought up plant medicine because the, the more these conversations that I have, the more I start to connect the dots and I start to realize like there's a lot of overlap between doing past life regression. Meditations and exploring that space and plant medicine often in plant medicine ceremonies, you are taken back to past lives and aspects of yourself that you're unaware of, and the integration aspect of that and taking what you've learned and putting it into practice before. Trying to add a new tool to the tool belt is a, a vital key to. And just progressing and growing and getting the most out of it. I, I think of it as like every time you do one of these spiritual practices, it's like you get a new lesson and unless you're doing your homework and completing the lessons, it, it doesn't make sense to learn calculus if you're not solid with your times tables and, and you can't add and subtract. Uh, very well. Like you don't wanna continue to, to move on to more complicated and more nuanced subjects because if you don't have that solid foundation, those other things aren't gonna make sense and it's really not appropriate for you to delve into that. So I'm glad you you mentioned that. And yeah, for me, definitely the integration aspect was pretty much non-existent until I got to the point where I did a, a past life regression meditation on my lunch break, sitting in my car and I was at work and I, something really emotionally heavy came up and I had to go back into work and I was like, okay, I need to pump the breaks on this. Like, this is not something that I should just be doing willy-nilly, and I, I need to respect this. I need to respect this practice. And, and after that, yeah, it was, I like, I only do it now if I feel, if I really feel called to do it. And I just trust that the universe is gonna give me, as you said, like the breadcrumbs, the things I need to know will be provided for me when it's appropriate for me to have that experience or to enter that space. So you also mentioned doing future life. I don't know exactly how you, how you phrased it, but looking at potential futures. So when is it appropriate for somebody to try to access future information and what are the nuances around that? Because I feel like trying to predict the future is, can be probably somewhat of a tricky thing to do.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:Mm-hmm. So it's also done through hypnosis. It's called future progression. So most people would come to me if they have like a big decision to make. Um, often it seems to be around career changes. Um, so they just under hypnosis will just try different pathways, like some things that they might have in mind and sometimes things come up that they didn't even have in mind, which is amazing. Your subconscious might just. Say like, Hey, maybe think about this. you just walk down different paths and you feel into it, like different emotions come up, like, are you feeling happy about this? Is it inspiring? What's the rest of your life gonna look like? So you're just kind of like stepping into the shoes of potential use and just trying to get that firsthand, uh, experience. when you come out of it, you just have more of a. General feeling of what feels right. I mean, it's not to say that when you're in a future progression, it's actually predicting your future. It's just helping you feel into your future. Again, you have free will.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:That makes sense. So it's, it's not predictive in a specific kind of way, but it's, more kinda gives you a taste of the energetics of the experience that you might have if you make different choices.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:Yes. I wanna say a loose yes though, because sometimes people do predict things that do happen,
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:Hmm.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:I don't wanna promise anyone that. But when it does happen, they will call me and they're like, no way. I can't believe this happened. This is what I saw, which is amazing.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:In speaking of integration and given the fact that that's such an important aspect of doing this sort of work, I. What kind of practices do you prescribe to people or do you have any specific go-to integration practices that maybe you, you yourself, have worked with or that you find your clients ha have success with and find to be particularly useful?
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:I would say especially like after past life regression. Um, as you said, like when you did it in, in the car before work, I. mean, I would definitely say right afterwards clear your schedule. I mean, I would say messages are still gonna be coming in the rest of the day. I really recommend that people journal things so they don't forget. I mean, I always record the past life regression so they can listen back to it. And when you listen back to the recording at different times, even like a month later or a year later, it's surprising many more messages in there, how many messages in there that you hear differently in the future that might even pertain to that time. But in general, um, as we are kind of saying, like there are certain lessons you can learn. And if we're going to relate this to like being at school and like having them do their homework, like you can read as much as you want, but until you put it into practice, you're not having the full experience. So integration is going to depend on what comes through the session. So a little bit different for everyone, and some people can move faster than others, in general, just try to apply it to your everyday life. I mean, the messages come through for a purpose.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:You mentioned that you were moving towards mediumship, or that's something that you were developing or an area or avenue that you want to go down. What's your experience been like with that and how do you see that being integrated into your current practice?
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:Oh, yes. This is all connected with the IC record reading, you know, making people less afraid of death. The thing is, is I also had a little bit of fear around it because when I was younger, I, I was seeing ghost and everything like that. I'm like, oh, I don't know if I want to see that again. But I do know that when I was younger and I was having all these spiritual experiences and. I do remember like going around trying to find answers for myself, and this is way before people were talking about it on the internet. I remember I would like go to Barnes and Nobles or whatever bookstore was available and try to go to like the spiritual section and try to read as many books as I can to just try to like I'm not going crazy and so strange, but as I was a kid. I used to like to read the dictionary for fun. I don't know why, but I remember finding this word in the dictionary medium, and I remember my spirit guides like really me focus on this word and like circling it for me, like a medium. I read it and, and I, it was like people who can contact like the spiritual realm. And I just remember really. Understanding that that's what I am. I don't know, I was like eight or nine years old and I was telling my spirit guy, it's like, I really think this could be helpful, you know, to, make people less afraid to death.'cause they're getting too speak to someone that they've loved that's passed over. It's just me trying to move out of my own fears. To be able to do this, but I'm getting a lot of encouragement now and I'm some courses on it and practicing, and it's actually been a really, really beautiful experience and I really like the evidential part of it as well. So yeah, I hope to be able to offer this soon for others.'cause I think it really still goes along with my purpose.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:And you mentioned as a kid you were having psychic experiences, so this, is this something that's been with you your whole life? I know you mentioned the Kundalini awakening, and I know often for many people that's a catalyst for a, you know, a plethora of psychic abilities to come online, but it sounds like this may have been a part of your experience for a long time.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:Yes, ever since I was a kid, and you know, when you're a kid and you have these abilities. And no one else is talking about them. You don't know if you're the only one or not. And, um, luckily my mom, she has some intuitive abilities and she did tell me that things might be some strange things might happen in, in my life. And not to be afraid of them, but if I started to talk to friends about this, they thought I was crazy. So I just suppressed so much for so long. But yeah, breadcrumbs of experience, thing leading to the next. But I definitely had time in my life too, where I just tried to shut it all down and just live a normal life. I feel like a lot of us have done that.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:Yeah, I can certainly relate to your experience. Uh, feeling like I was the only person in the room that was seeing things or understanding or noticing things. Like at, at a certain point, it became obvious to me that nobody around me was sharing my experience. And it, like you said, it can make you feel like, like there's something wrong with you or you're going crazy or just like. Something's not right. And I believe that we're moving into a time on this planet where more and more gifted children and people who are just naturally open to their intuitive gifts are being born and choosing to incarnate here. So I think these sorts of conversations are really important to have, and, you know, not just for the people who are potentially seeking, uh. Looking for a spiritual practice, like past life regression, but also for parents and caretakers and people who are interacting with potentially very sensitive, uh, children. So if you, if somebody approached you and, and they said, I. Hey, my, I feel like my kid is talk, they're talking to people that I can't see or they're accessing something that I'm not aware of. How would you tell them to approach that? Or, or what advice would you give a parent with a, a gifted or a very sensitive child?
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:I would have to see where their mindset is already. But I mean, of course I think you need to nurture your child's abilities. I think there's a lot of great support groups now, um, support groups that didn't exist when I was younger. But I mean, it's also possible maybe for the parents too, just to start to question everything too, and have their own spiritual experiences. mean, maybe they wanna pass life regression. I'm not gonna push it on them, but I mean, I guess there would probably be some good books that they could read. But yeah, I really do think there's a lot of children coming, uh, onto this earth plane now with a lot of beautiful abilities, and they are our future. So I hope that they are treated well.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:Speaking of the future, like I am pretty hesitant to get into any predictive sort of area because it's just so slippery and I feel like often that can almost be a distraction for people is like focusing too much on what could happen or what this channel said, or what this psychic said, or what this person said, rather than, you know, kind of missing the point of being here now. Right. Where you're at and enjoying your experience, but given all the work that you've done with people. What's your sense of the kind of future that we're moving into now? I understand that there are probably many potentials and like, is there a general sense of the, like the energy that we're moving into or like a a, a state of the world that's, that's going to come about in the future?
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:I wouldn't say that I do too much predictive work. Um, but I'm trying to think of like messages that come through for others.'cause a lot of people do come in with, uh, fears, hesitations about the future. I think it's very normal. I mean, we are a little bit some chaos, let's. Be honest, but it feels like the messages that come through are really based around, um, not being afraid. Not being afraid, like being present in the moment. and there was a beautiful message that came in for someone yesterday, uh, that we're stronger than we think we are, that one comes through a lot. then the other message that seems to come through for people and even for myself quite often. Is, don't forget to have fun. Even if there is some chaos around us, like, let's not forget to have fun and be supportive of each other and to find community and, and even just to focus on the small things or the things that we, we can control.'cause there's always gonna be these storms in the background, right? We might, we might even be in a storm, you know, but like focus on what we can and, um. A lot of things about inner strength and just realizing that we can handle a lot more than we think we can.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:No.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:all I'll say for now. I don't really do too much predictive,
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:Yeah, that's, that's perfect. And, like I said, I am hesitant to get into the specific predictions and things like that. I'm like, I personally, I, I trust that whatever's gonna happen is gonna happen for a reason, and that that's what we're supposed to experience and therefore. Uh, trying to think about it or overanalyze it is just basically a waste of my time. It's gonna happen whether or not I understand it or, things are gonna happen that are outta my control and I just need to do the best that I can in the moment to. To, to deal with what comes up. And, and I trust that the universe is never gonna provide me with an experience that I can't handle. And I believe that for everybody. And that even though we may perceive that, you know, this is, this is something that's too big, I don't think it ever really is, and that we always have the ability to rise to the occasion and, and meet whatever kind of situation arises in our life, even the challenging ones.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:It is interesting right now'cause my spirit guides just made me like, take a look at the name of your channel. Again, alternate timelines and they wanted me to say that, um, we are also in control of our timelines. They're trying to tell me, they're telling me now that if we are really choosing to live on a fear-based timeline, we'll we'll attract more of that energy. So they want me to remind everyone, just, you know, try to stay more positive and focused on the beautiful aspects of life and love, because we are creating our own, our own future, our own timelines.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:And it's interesting that you like your core mission in this life and, and probably multiple lifetimes, is to help people become less afraid of death. That is a big motivator for myself as well. I, I spent a quite a lot of time facilitating plant medicine ceremonies and one thing I realized after doing it quite a bit and working with a lot of people was that a lot of the things that manifest as dis-ease in people's lives, symptoms of depression, symptoms of anxiety, the different. Manifestations of I illness are quite often if you really drill down and get to the root cause, is this underlying fear of death. You wouldn't think of it and it's not apparent by, just looking at people and seeing all the different issues that people experience. And like when, for me. I just saw it over and over and over again when I really drilled into it with people. Like that's where it would almost always go to this, underlying fear of, of death. And it's almost like you're carrying around a weight your entire life, like a, this thing that you have on your shoulders that's, you don't even recognize that it's there. It's, it's always in the back of your mind. It's always present, and it's always lurking, and it's always having some sort of effect on you, even though you're. Typically unconscious of it. So I'm curious as to like how that lands with you and, and how you've seen that fear manifest in people's lives.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:That's really interesting that you said that. Yes, I, I do agree. Yeah. I feel like most causes of disease is related to fear. I wasn't sure if you're gonna say fear of death, but I can definitely see how that could be. What I also see, yes, many people have a fear of death, but a lot of people also have a, a fear of living, which is interesting about actually living. Some people are so stuck in their comfort zone. So I mean, one time my spirit guides said to me, they're like, you're supposed to make people less afraid of death, you're also supposed to make people less afraid to live.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:How do you perceive that fear of death manifesting in people's lives? What are they experiencing in their life as a result of that fear or death or any sort of fear that they're hanging onto consciously or unconsciously.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:Everyone knows that they have the fear of death. I think that's what you're saying when that's coming up in the, in the plant medicine. So sometimes they don't even know why they're coming to me, but their subconscious is revealing that they have a fear of death, um, that could be halting them really, um, from doing what they wanna really wanna do. Like playing safe. I mean, it's okay. You should be careful what you do. We shouldn't, they're all cautioned to the wind. Um, but I just feel like there's a lot of people not following their passion or following, um, not living. Yeah, I mean it's amazing what the subconscious will say when they're under these states. but I really do hope when they have a session, when they hear it come from themself. You know, all this information, all this, that guidance that's coming out from themself, and they listen back to the recording, that they do actually build up enough bravery to live the life that they, they should be living. I mean, I know I, I know that we have multiple lives, but still the most important one is the one that we're living right now, and we should really do our best to make the most of it.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:That's, uh, quite the jux juxtaposition between the fear of death and the fear of living. When you say that, it seems like there be, would be on two distant ends of the spectrum, but I think kinda what you're alluding to is if you really dig into it and you really examine it, they might be two sides of the same coin. They have the fear of living and, and the fear of death.'cause they probably have similar sorts of an impact on, on our lives I can totally see how, if, if somebody is able to come to terms with the fact that this life is impermanent and our spirits are made out of energy, energy never dies, that we come back over and over and over again. Like you, like you mentioned it kind of. Take some of the heaviness away from it, some of the seriousness, and it allows you to, potentially look at life as like, you know, Hey, this is not my first time. It's not gonna be my last time. So, you know, it's, I don't need to hang on to the fear and all the heaviness if I don't get something right. If I don't do it perfect this time, Well I'll have another opportunity to try again in the future.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:I love that. Yes, they can experiment a little bit more. Be a little bit more creative.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:I spent some time in India and I was talking to somebody about my experience there, and the, the culture in India is just way different than our Western culture. And the, it's almost like the experience of time is, is d different. And somebody told me, they're like, you know, everybody in that culture believes in reincarnation. That's why nobody's in a hurry to do anything. You know, you, you go walking through town and there's people just hanging out on the, the front doorstep and you know, people just on the corner hanging out, talking. Whereas if you go to LA it's just like everybody's on a mission to get where they need to go, and it's just an entirely different feel. It's like, well, yeah, of course the Western people in western culture, there's this sense of urgency because they've, they. They're not so intimately connected with this understanding that they'll just be reborn again if they don't get everything done in this lifetime. So I'm wondering, that urgency, that, that sense of needing to get things done now, like how does that, change people and how do people often react? When they, when they have one of those breakthrough moments and they realize like, oh, this isn't my first time and, and this, this fear that I've been holding onto is really unnecessary.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:Well, when you're talking about this, I'm also like, oh, I'm one of those people with urgency. But I've also been told like I have a very proactive soul. I always get these messages like, it's okay to slow down. You don't have to do it all in this lifetime. Um, but yes, if, if someone would have a past life regression and they've already seen some of the experiences that they've already had, um, I mean, we're just like a, our lives are like different chapters in a book, but we are essentially this huge book of experiences. I mean, I wouldn't tell someone, you don't have to do something. I mean. Listen to what your soul wants to do in this lifetime. might choose to have a slow life. You might choose to want to have an action packed life. I mean, either way is okay. soul and experience is different.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:And if somebody asks you like, how come I can't remember my past lives as it is, why do I have to go through this whole process? Why does it seem like it's hidden away or, or, you know, behind the veil, so to speak? Like, what is the purpose of that?
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:I think our brains would just be overloaded. I mean, some people do remember past lives. They don't absolutely need a past life regression. And of course there's those stories of the children that remember their past lives, which are amazing. can you imagine if we had all that information at once? I think we would go insane. It's better if it just comes in. it's like drip fed to us, right, then we can just integrate it into our current life. Otherwise, it would just be too much, too overwhelming.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:Yeah.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:think we
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:And.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:when we need it.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:That's, that's very much my sense as well. As we start to wrap this up, if somebody's interested in connecting with their spirit guides or making a connection to a potential source of information in the spiritual realm. What are some practices that,, that might be useful for them or that they could start to delve into, in addition to, you know, potentially past life regression therapy. But I'm thinking more along the lines of an open line of communication where you can get, encouragement and subtle hints in a very kind of real time, like a, like a prayer, so to speak.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:I, uh, I still think most of it comes down to meditation. that's still the best practice that we can do. What ha What really helped me when I was younger was, um, automatic writing. So I don't know if. If that's for everyone, but I mean, that would be like to go into a meditative state with a pen in your hand, sitting in front of a, a, you know, a blank piece of paper and maybe ask a question and then just kind of just let your hand, kind of like, you can start with yes or no questions. I even say maybe use your less predominant hand because you kind of, it is like a different brainwave. So I think automatic, um, writing is very. but in general meditation, I just feel like everyone can to access guidance, spirit guides, um, sources of inspiration through meditation and of course there's so many different kinds of meditation, but, um,
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:That was my, that was my next question. That was my next question. You know, for, for a lot of people the word meditation is. Relatively ambiguous.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:Yes.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:what, what forms of meditation or do you have a preferred method or way to, to meditate?
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:Yes. I would still say start your meditation off with like clearing your mind and calming down and doing breath work. But then take your questions into meditation once you've reached that frequency or that brainwave, and I think you're more connected and to stay open for what guidance you can receive. I know a lot of people are gonna doubt it in the beginning, the more you practice, the more you. Get familiar with that realm, the more you start to trust the answers that you receive.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:It sounds like what you're saying also is practice, like keep trying and, and keep at it and, and make it a practice, something that you do on a regular basis.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:mm-hmm. Yes, exactly.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:I don't know why this question just popped into my head, but do you ever communicate with animals? Do you ever do any sort of work around, animal communication?
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:That would be really nice to do. You know, I might, um, in our mediumship practice that we're doing right now, we are connecting with animals that have passed to the other side. So I think it is possible, I haven't focused on animals, but I'm not opposed to it I. I love animals. It would be it. Yes, they definitely have souls and they definitely have things to say as well that I know for sure.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:me too. I was doing, uh, I don't remember if I was meditating or exactly what the context was, but I had a, my family had a dog that passed away when I was really little. His name was King. I. And I don't have any conscious memories of this dog as a black lab. I think he, I was like three when he passed away, and I was either working with plant medicine or just meditating maybe. And all of a sudden I felt this energy and I was like king. Like, oh, and I didn't, again, I don't have any conscious memories of this dog, but I recognized him right away. I was like, oh, that's that. That's super interesting and, and I'm just thinking that. Yeah, many people have super deep connections with their animals and I think that would be a really. Fascinating way to explore those sorts of relationships through past life regression and going into a past life regression session with that intention of trying to figure out, like your connection to the animals in your life, and if you've had them in the past or, you know, there's a lot of different avenues you could go down with that, but I've been spending a lot of time with my animals recently, so that's kind of been on my mind.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:They can be part of our soul family, that's for sure. And you know, even in past life regression, you can see yourself as an animal. The very
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:Real.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:past life regression I did, I saw myself as a dolphin actually the first two past life regressions, I was a dolphin twice. So it is possible. Yeah, they are part of our soul families.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:Thank you for sharing that because I have a past life. Uh, two past life regressions that I've done, one where I was a dolphin,
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:Mm-hmm.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:and another one where I had a relationship with a dolphin. Like the, the, the dolphin was almost like a family member, like almost closer than a family member. Like I would go see my friend the dolphin every single day because I lived by the ocean. So I, and I wonder what that is with, with the dolphins. I know there's incredibly intelligent and intuitive an animals that are. Who knows how in touch they are with the spirit realm. But that's really interesting that y your animal experiences are particularly are around dolphins,
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:Maybe we were dolphins together, and here
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:maybe.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:podcast.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:I mean the life of a dolphin. Swimming around. I mean, it looks like it's so much fun just going here and there and playing with your friends, and they seem to be really inquisitive, playful creatures. So.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:I remember it felt like freedom. Yes.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:Alright, Jessica, this has been a, an incredibly enlightening conversation. Thank you so much for sharing. I know the subjects that we talked about today are sometimes hard to articulate and kind of challenging to put into words, and I really appreciate your point of view and the way that you communicate about your work and what you do. If anybody's interested in working with you and learning more about what you do or just connecting with you in general, what's the best way for them to do that?
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:I am on all the social media platforms, but my website is, uh, you can look up spirit explorations, so www spirit explorations.com. I'm on Instagram, all of them, so you can find me that way.
ian-vogel_1_06-07-2025_110534:I think I found you on Instagram and I've been following you for a while and really enjoying your content and I'm so glad that I reached out and we were able to make this connection and have the conversation. So Jessica, thank you again. Thank you so much for coming on. I. I appreciate your expertise and your stories and for sharing, and I hope that this isn't the last time that we can do this because I, I believe that we could probably have many conversations and, the realm of spiritual and intuitive gifts is such a, it's such a broad field. We could probably have many conversations about these sorts of topics. So, uh, thank you again very much for coming on. I, I really appreciate it.
jessica-_1_06-07-2025_090534:Thank you, Ian. I'm also really enjoying what you're doing. Keep up. Keep it up.