Alternate Timelines with Ian Vogel

The Manure Meditations | A Psychic Farmer’s Story w/ Allison Peterson

• Ian Vogel • Episode 20

Share episode

What if the most profound spiritual awakening of your life started... while scooping manure?

In this unexpected and deeply personal conversation, Allison Peterson shares how farm life, heartbreak, and a shovel full of cow poop cracked her open to intuitive downloads and psychic mediumship. 

From AI-inseminated heifers to full moon rituals, we explore how working with animals, land, and loss can become a gateway to soul-level healing and awakening.

This episode is a reminder that intuition doesn’t always arrive in candlelit ceremonies or sacred temples—it can meet you in the mud, under the stars, with your hands full of compost and your heart cracked wide open.

If you’re exploring psychic development, spiritual awakening, or the evolution of consciousness, you’re in the right place.

Leave a comment below 👇 because this conversation is just beginning.

#psychicdevelopment #spiritualawakening #homesteadinglife #consciousness #permaculture

✦ Subscribe for more videos on reincarnation, metaphysics, and the evolution of consciousness. https://www.youtube.com/@ianvogelmedia?sub_confirmation=1

✦ Join the Alternate Timelines newsletter for deeper insights I can’t share anywhere else: https://alternatetimelines.co/newsletter

Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:54 Allison Peterson: Farmer and Psychic Medium
03:38 Journey to Farming
06:39 A Self-Sustaining Lifestyle
13:30 Lessons with Farm Animals
24:43 Developing Psychic Abilities 
34:26 Embracing Quiet and Meditation
38:56 Redefining Farming
46:05 Spiritual Awakening
01:00:35 Aligning Inner and Outer Worlds
01:03:46 Conclusion and Contact Info

About the Guest:
Allison Peterson is a psychic medium, intuitive business consultant, and founder of Brain Wiggle—a practice dedicated to helping individuals and entrepreneurs align with their highest potential. With over a decade of experience in strategic communications and design, Allison combines practical business strategy with energetic insight to support clients on both personal and professional levels.

Drawing from her own journey as a regenerative homesteader and farmer, Allison brings a uniquely embodied approach to her work—bridging the seen and unseen with clarity, warmth, and integrity.

Through Brain Wiggle, Allison helps clients clear energetic blocks, reconnect with their inner guidance, and build aligned, purpose-driven lives and businesses.

Guest Links:
✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brainwiggle/
✦ Website: https://www.brainwiggle.com/

Don't miss any of the action (Ian's links):
✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ianvogelmedia
✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alt.timelines.ian/
✦ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ianvogelmedia

Hey, I’m Ian Vogel—host of Alternate Timelines. My journey started on a small farm in the midwest, where I always felt a little out of place. After years of skepticism and even a stint as an atheist, a near-death experience changed my perspective on everything. Since then, I’ve explored plant medicine, past life memories, and the mysteries of consciousness. Now, I’m sharing those experiences to help others navigate their own awakening. Through real stories, deep conversations, and wild explorations of the unknown, we’re building a community where it’s okay to question reality. You’re not alone in the unknown. 👽✨

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

information started coming through,\\it sounds like my own inner voice, but the messages were using vocabulary that are not my own personal vocabulary. So that was like the, what is this? I had this calling, this urge after, watching a documentary that introduced me to Permaculture to see all of these systems work so beautiful in harmony. am strong, but I'm not as strong as a 600 pound animal. So I can't just like, use brute force and I'm not gonna use fear to control something that I wanted in my life, And honestly, I went back and forth of like knowing deep in my heart that this is absolutely 100% true. And the other half telling my husband if he thought I needed to be checked into a mental facility, that I trusted his judgment more than mine at this moment in time.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

Allison, if you were to meet somebody at a local barbecue, or maybe in your instance a local rodeo, how do you describe what you do when somebody asks you, what is it that you do?

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

I think it would depend on what I wanted or what I thought would be best achieved with the answer that I gave, and the way I would go about it. Um, I would be open with both things. Well, one, I am just a human right. I'm just my human having my human experience. But if you ask what I do during my human experience. I'm a farmer, um, but I'm also a psychic medium. And which one I tell first depends on the situation. I do enjoy telling people that I'm a farmer first because they understand that I'm a grounded, logical, hardworking person that appreciates our world. And then when they have that un that foundation of who I am and how I live my life, I love to add the psychic medium part as a cherry on top as a perk, it's like I'm connected to the earth here, hands in dirt, but I'm also connected to it in a completely different way as well. And I feel like when I say farmer first, psychic medium second, um, I kinda like vet myself a little bit and, and, um, not to say that psychic mediums. Are a bunch of cookies. Right. Um, but I think there's some stereotypes that I would like to trying to skirt around by introducing myself as, what I enjoy doing That's more tangible for the common person to understand.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

That makes total sense. People have a, a stereotype of a farmer as well in their mind, but that, that stereotype is usually more, perhaps easily approachable and understandable. And there's not as many questions potentially around what a farmer does if a farmer grows crops

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yes.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

tends to

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yes.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

you know, old McDonald had a farm, E-I-E-I-O kind of thing. So,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

uh, and, and thank you for sharing and I'd love to explore both of those areas. And I think where you and I have a lot of similarities and a lot of commonalities is that we, I. We both ex live with one foot in each of those realms. And so I'm super excited to, to have you on and to talk with you and to get your perspective on, on this kind of life because, you know, I have my perspective, but you, have a different, uh, experience and, you know, just life experience in general. So how did you get to be slash psychic medium? And I know, know, it sounds like you're doing both of those things simultaneously, but is there, just give us a little backstory. Like what, what came first? Or like, how did this situation come to be? Because I, my guess is that it wasn't always like that.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

It wasn't always like this, and it's very recently been this, so for the majority of my life I was, I. I went to school for graphic design, visual communications, so I spent the majority of my time inside at a desk reading files that actually don't exist. And that felt good for a while because, you know, we, we could stay up on our heads all day long, creating, creating. But I realized, not consciously realized, but I needed to start creating things like physical, tangible items. Um, the thought of all of my work and efforts, if a server were to crash or be damaged to be poofed is gone in smoke, just started to really not sit well with me. So I lived in the suburbs of Boston for 11 years and during that time I started our, our first garden. Before that, I had never gardened anything before, so this is my 14th year of gardening. Um, and so that was fun and felt novel, but. When you get hands on earth, it's hard to go back, um, when you really start to feel that connection. So our first garden was, you know, maybe four feet wide by 12 feet long. Right? Very easy to manage. And now we have, our garden is bigger than our first whole property of our first home. and so that growing is just, I don't wanna say in its addiction because it's not negative at all, but you understand like it's just a source of knowledge, enjoying connection. It just keeps growing and growing and growing and you want more and you wanna explore more and you get more curious about what you can grow and do and make on your own. So I had been running my own, uh, freelance business for, um, strategic communications advertising, uh, graphic design, all of that for a little over a decade. But I decided that I wanted to. Open up another business, which was a micro farm. And so, um, on our little plot of land, we were, um, just under four tenths of an acre. Um, I created an e-commerce site and I started growing. You know, I had our own, uh, garden herbs. I was baking food from scratch. I had a beehive, so I was beekeeper and selling honey. And that felt really good, but not quite, it wasn't quite hitting the mark because my energy was what, what I didn't realize until later is my energy was still going out. More was coming out. That was coming in, that was on, that's on me. So in 2020 we took the risk and took the leap and we left the suburbs of Boston and we moved to central Connecticut. And it was for the basis of, I had. In December, 2020, I had this calling, this urge after, um, watching a documentary that introduced me to Permaculture to see all of these systems work so beautiful in harmony. Before then, um, as a child growing up in Missouri, I just was, um, familiar with monoculture and mono agriculture, and that's all that I knew, and I didn't want that, that didn't make sense to me. But permaculture, when you've got livestock and plants and uh, you know, you're forest and everything working together and the system that continues to replenish itself, that clicked, that made sense. So I stopped working for other people and I started working for Mother Nature. And we, we went to Connecticut and we started, um, this is my first time to have livestock larger than a a chicken. Um, in our very first year, we had pigs and goats and heifer calves and a hundred meat birds, and about 20 laying hens all together. So we just went straight on in it was the most stressful, wild, chaotic, crazy time in my life. However, I always say that like that, that summer taught me you eat it when you're a farmer, you eat a slice of humble pie every day. And some days those slices are much bigger than others. so that is, that is where I rolled into it and I realize I still use my strategic thinking as a farmer because we have to really zoom out and see how all of these systems are gonna work and think about the future. Based on the past and present in a positive, helpful, meaningful way. Whereas when we're worried about the past and future in some of our daily life activities, that can get us into a bit of a pickle when we start to overthink about things. But right now I know that as a farmer mother nature, she is my boss and she lets me know my schedule. She knows when I should work harder, when I should take a rest. And I love that. And I love that because it makes sense and I know it's it's the truth. Nothing's hiding in the, like, the reason behind it, it just is, it's just information. So that is how I got here. That's, yeah,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

no ulterior motive when it rains. It's just,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

exactly. It's just rain,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

There's no office politics about it. There's no

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

right.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

the promotion or, you know, if this is happening for this reason or that reason. It's

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

it's just raining. And yeah, there's a

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

it's just raining.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

and I think you're, you're right, it's, it's something that doesn't need to be overanalyzed. You can still have, it still gives you structure a way. It's, feels kind of random at times, like when it rains, when it's sunny, when, when you

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yes,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

things. And at the same time, takes the burden off of you. And, and it, I think it helps cultivate trust because there's a saying that I love that says, nature never rushes, but everything always gets done. And, and

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

yes,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

rather than just thinking about that and that being a, a thought that's rolling around in your head, it becomes tangible and visible and experiential in your life. like for me personally, it's helped me to develop a deeper faith. It's just like things are all gonna work out. They, every year, the spring comes, summer comes, the crops grow, things happen. It's never gonna look the same. And everything gets, everything that needs to get done does get done in its

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah. I love that you mentioned faith, because it's faith that makes sense to me. It's faith that I can see that measurable proof, that measurable progress doesn't matter when I start my seeds three weeks earlier than last year, 10, 10 weeks later than the year before. Somehow there's always something growing and somehow I already always have too many tomatoes and that's fine.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

That's a awesome problem to have. Yeah,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yes,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

it,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

yes.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

as far as the garden goes, I, I love spending time in my garden. And no ma like you said, no matter what you do, it's always gonna be different. And that's, that's part of the fun of it. I tend to like to let things go to seed and see what happens next year.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

I've got an enormous, right in the middle of one of my rows, I have an enormous cilantro patch. I have no idea where it came from. I, it's like I don't eat that much cilantro, and every time I walk into the garden, it smells like cilantro and random dill plants everywhere. So

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

That's right.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

love it. And I think that's, I really something that people don't think about when, if you've never spent time in a garden or have had a garden for successive years, the, the amount of variety with that can happen in a relatively small plot of land. It's a, it's an adventure

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yes.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

time. You never really know what you're gonna get. And I think some people perceive gardening as, as work as, you know, pulling weeds and watering and all the things that come along with it, which is part of it. And from my personal experience, there's just so much more to it.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah, and I think it all, it's, you know, some people will feel like gardening's a chore and I can understand that feeling. When we moved to this property, we tried to work with the setup that the previous owner had that worked for her, but it super, duper duper did not work for us. And, and, and I felt so, I didn't feel defeated. I didn't feel anger, I just felt a little lost. Like, I can't believe that I can't just do my thing that I've been doing and doing well, and then a copy paste it to apply. So it's like kind of that, um, parallel for, for life things, you know, when you pick up and move, even though you still wanna do the same thing. Accomplish the same goals, you still may have to do it a completely different way. You still might need, most likely need to tear it all down and rebuild it, um, to fit your new situation. So yeah, if gardening does, feels like a chore, you might wanna try a different type of garden, right? Or different type of plant or a different, you know, there's just so many different variables that if you get, if you take the time to think about the pros and cons of your setup and your plants and your own life schedule, you know, you can either work with it or against it. And working against nature never feels good.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

Yeah, that is a, a recipe for frustration and anguish. I,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

commend you on your. Bravery in taking on so many animals Your first year? I, a little bit about me, I grew up on a a commercial farm and I, I understand how much work animals are, especially large farm animals like cattle and,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

and, and the, and pigs, like, they're all very unique. People

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yes.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

farm animals and, you know, farm animals, but the lifestyle of and requirements for a pig versus that of a goat versus that of a chicken,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

It's like a parrot and a fish and a cat. You're like, I know they're all pets, but that's not.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

Yeah, so like, I'm, I'm curious'cause I have a deep love for animals and I'm always curious about pe other people's experience with them and, and I know people are gonna be listening to this and there's, there's gonna be a certain amount of people who are thinking about getting a farm animal or farm animals of some sort at, at some scale. Going through your experience, starting at, basically went from zero to 99, What

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

what was that experience

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

yeah,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

you said it was and chaotic, but like,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

yeah,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

were in the shoes of somebody who was thinking about doing what you did, like what kind of advice would you give them? As far as farm animals.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

so first I wanna say, although we did get everyone, everything, it was like the month of June within a four week span. We went from just laying hen just chickens to everybody's here. So that was a lot. That's not how we had planned for it, but that's how it happened. So first with anything, your local library, especially if you live in a rural area, is going to be filled with a lot of great animal husbandry books. And I feel like, you know, the internet is great for a lot of information, um, especially YouTube videos of, of people showing their homestead. And there's a lot, a lot you can learn about it, A lot of clever little tricks and then a lot of things like, ooh, I see how that's not super helpful and I'm just gonna make note of that too. Because again, what works for someone may not work for you at all. So I'm very heavy on the planning and the research. I like to have as much information upfront as possible. And I think the number one thing is don't just go and get an animal and think you'll figure it out later. That's doing a disservice. One to the animal who. I feel is most important in this equation. Um, and it's gonna make your life, you know, that's working against nature instead of working with it. it's not gonna have you in a present state of mind when you're caring for that animal and, and listening or observing to it to understand its needs. The one lots of information, library books, YouTube videos, blogs, substack, like, there's so, there's so much informa. We have so much information at our fingertips. Please use that first. For the sake of the animal and the sake of your sanity, please use that first. Uh, the reason why we got all of the animals at once is because the property that we live on, although we have, um, about five or six acres of field, the hanging field, there were no livestock. There was no livestock on it, so we did not have any infrastructure. So ours is kind of like a, a tournament bracket of like, who's gonna make the cut. It. Um, we have intentions for each animal and the job that they would provide on the farm. So the pigs, um, are, are assisting us in a different way now. Um, you know, they are in the freezer, and nourishing us to do the work to keep going on. But they were great at taking up the poison ivy, the goats, we actually rehomed to a family that's all about goats, like a four H family with goats, because we wanted them to do the poison ivy and clear the brush, but it wasn't exactly beneficial. And with the fencing that we had, uh, they knew when the electricity was off and they would slip under and run and eat our apple trees. Right? So it was like a doing, not doing your job and doing more harm than good. Um, the cows, the, the cattle right. That's for dairy and that's for regenerating the land with their manure. So that's an obvious day. And the chickens, you know, we had had chickens at our previous home, but the amount of chickens and, a backyard suburban backyard to 10 acres of land, that's a very different scenario. So it was a big learning curve. So we wanted to learn all of it all together and see what we didn't need to consider anymore or what, you know, in theory and in practice, so that we could devise our infrastructure that didn't exist for everything to work happily. And it was very much like the, um, the farmer and the bag of grain and the duck and the fox getting across the, the stream. You know, he can only leave.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

that story. Please

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Oh, it's

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

me.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

so, it's like on two sides of the stream. And the farmer can get, pick two things. To bring over at a time. The farmer can't leave the duck and the feed together because the duck will eat the feed. He can't bring the duck and the fox over'cause the fox will eat the duck. And so he has to be very strategic about order of operations. So, if you go in for the big deep dive because you want to understand the order of operations that you're setting up from scratch, I get it. Just don't commit to anything for like two years and, and I hope you'll make it out. Um, and also ask for help meet your community members. Don't be afraid to admit when you're in, in trouble in a pickle, um, and a livestock vet if you've got one available, don't, you know, proactive versus reactive is, is a big lesson.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

I love

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

I,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

Thank you for sharing all that. And there's just

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

intangible things that come up with animals, especially at scale. Animals that are outside animals that, and especially if you don't have, prior experience with them, you're never gonna be aware of or understand like how tenaciously goats and pigs will test a fence and their ability to find even the, the tiniest crack or, or way out of a fence or somehow have this. Incredible intuition about when the fence is not on, and like fence goes off for 30 seconds and then, and then you, yeah, and then they're, it's like a

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

and they're booking it

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

apple trees, towards the, the tasty branches

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

they can reach. something that's really stuck with me, a piece of wisdom that I learned is that every minute you spend in preparation is gonna save you 10 minutes in execution. that, that's as much as there is a part of me who wants to just wing it and, and try things. And, and I do, I also recognize that, that depending on the circumstances, that that may not give me the outcome that I want, or often it'll just create more work for me on the backend. And I, I can almost always look back and say, okay, if I'd sat down for a half an hour and just. Plan this out, this situation would've probably gone a lot more smoothly.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yes. Don't underestimate the power of a, a blank piece of grid paper. Um, and also I think it's a really good practice in balance of, Embracing restrictions or embracing letting go of control. What is within your control is your, the knowledge you can do upfront. The materials and tools that you can have on hand. Do as much of that good ti good control as possible upfront so that when it's time to actually do the thing, and now there's so much out of your controller, out, out of your hands, that you've got the tools and the knowledge to handle it gracefully and in a positive way. If you're trying to go, like winging it on both ends, it's just, it is not gonna, your cows are gonna be all tagged on Facebook, right? That like your, whose cows are out. I don't know. That's like what our local Facebook group is. Someone's cows are out, someone's pigs are out, someone's goats are out. Like that happens. I get it. Just, yeah. That neighbor that it's like the daily.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

Of all the animals that you've had, and up to this point, which ones have you enjoyed the most and why? And I'm not gonna ask you what your favorite is,'cause for me that's a hard question, but which ones do you find yourself spending the most time with or, or enjoying their presence the most and why?

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

I would say our miniature heifer jersey, Dexter Cross, uh, choppy and cricket are their names. Um, our heifers who are currently bred and then once they give birth, I can officially call them cows. And they are actually cows, right. But they're not cows yet. Um,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

must have some

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

they have been my.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

who, who is constantly correcting you. It's, it's not a cow yet.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Well, you know, when, when, yeah. When you're the city girl, you know, coming from the city and you don't know nothing, not that I have any neighbors that do that, right. But I feel like the tech, it's like that bowl is not a cow and there's like, there's a benchmark of like, if I don't use the actual words, like what does she actually know? Right. Um, so our heifers, poppy and cricket, I would say I highly favor them because they have taught me the hardest lessons I need to learn about myself. The amount of confidence you need, like I'm only five four. I, I am strong, but I'm not as strong as a 600 pound animal. Um, so I can't just like, use brute force and I'm not gonna use fear to control something that I wanted in my life, right? That I wanted this, this, um, symbiotic relationship with this livestock in my life. And so how am I going to do that? Well, I have to have confidence in myself to know that I can work with this animal in a way that is safe for myself, safe for it, and a mutually enjoyable experience. It's really easy to do that with something smaller than you. Um, not really easy, but it is much easier, right when you can just hold onto a rope or a leash or the chicken is in the coop and, you know, I lift up the broody chicken to get the 16 eggs at from underneath her like my daughter and I did yesterday, right? That's not hard. And so this, that's, they have been my greatest challenge because. They have showed me my own greatest challenges. It's like doing my own shadow work. I'm like, all right, here we are again. There's just so much to maneuver and so much you, you have to be so present with large animals, out of safety for both of you. Um, and they have for, they forced me to understand what being truly present is all about. with, without them in my life, I'm not sure if I would have developed my psychic mediumship abilities.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

Wow.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah. Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

know, and as you were saying that, like, up for me is like, yeah, these, especially large animals, it's like they are such a clear and pure mirror of yourself. They, you know,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yes.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

are, and they're so sensitive. Horses and cattle donkeys, like the larger ungulates, their heart fields or the, the electrical fields around their hearts are huge. They're just incredibly in tune with the things around them in, in their environment. the way that they interact with you and the way that they react to you is it may, it's not obviously apparent initially, but they're just reflecting your

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

I just, they're just reflecting.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

straight your energy. And if you're, if you, if you come at'em in a certain way, they're gonna respond in a certain way. And yeah,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

like I, I'm, I'm so grateful for the, the amount of time that I've been able to spend with, with large animals. And, growing up on a farm like a, a commercial beef farm, through observation, I learned certain ways to, to deal with large cattle and which was not really a, a compassionate way to deal with, animals, uh, quite frankly.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

And

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Agreed. I, I, yep.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

point in my, in my journey, I realized like, these are living beings. They may not be sentient in the way that we are, but there is a consciousness there. There's a, there, there I need to treat these animals with, with kindness and compassion and love and respect. And

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yes.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

when my and when that shifted in me, not, not to use fear, but to use like curiosity and just to, to work with them rather than against them. Like I, I remember specifically helping my dad sort cattle at one point after that shift. I would just, if there was a cattle, if there was a, a animal in the group that we want, my, my dad wanted out, he would point to it and I would just walk up to them and make eye contact with the ones and like, just slowly just peel it off the herd.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

my dad stood

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

and he, like, I could tell something was like he was trying to compute what was happening because he'd never.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

How, how do you do that without hollering at it, right?

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

at'em. You

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

to like, you didn't have to cuss at'em. And it's like, yeah, they're

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

smart and they're just reacting to me. They're reflecting back my own energy to me, and I'm so glad you, you brought that up and to me, it's like an incredible opportunity working with animals, especially large animals to, yeah. To, to face your own stuff, because that, that's eventually what comes up. And

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

if you find yourself in a place or a situation where you're getting frustrated, it's like, well, yeah, it's, it's hard to push a 600 pound animal that doesn't wanna go anywhere. It's like, oh, okay. Like, need to change my behavior and my vibe and my energy, like the, the only way the situation is gonna get resolved, and I get to the re result that I want. Is by working on myself and changing my own approach. And, and I'm

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

yeah,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

that you brought up the, the psychic mediumship and developing that in the context of working with your cattle. Like talk a little bit more about that.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

the, we normally do rotational grazing throughout our field and, and we move, uh, poppy and cricket through the field every couple of days. Although strenuous, like, that's very rewarding. And we're seeing our field, uh, revive itself without the use of any, um, manmade, uh, materials. Um, just good old ca manure plopping around like, like the good Lord intended. But one of our girls was getting a little, she was looking like a very well-to-do Renaissance woman was very plump, getting large, and, and she needed to shed a few pounds just to, um, in hopes for a, a healthy AI and birth. So we put her in a lot and fed her hay.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

AI in birth?

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

oh, sorry. Uh, chat. GPT did not get our cattle pregnant. We use artificial insemination. Yeah. Um, so, so we do not have a bull on the property, and that's not something, you know, I know I'm crazy, but not that crazy to add that into the mix. So our AI tech suggested that we not move her through the field that summer and, um, just so that we could control her portions, better to help her lose a little bit of weight because a, a heavier cow giving birth is, is not good for the, the, you know, it's a lot of stress on, on her physical body. So, um, throughout that summer, instead of spending my time moving fences around, I was scooping manure out of her lot. And again, I care about my animals very much, so I was scooping the, her area twice a day. And when you're out there scooping manure you know, and it's quiet and it's 6:00 AM and you're just hearing the birds and, and the leaves. And your mind just starts to go. And I didn't, what I didn't realize at the time is that scooping manure puts me into a flow state almost like instantly, and my mind clears. And it's more of like a, a working meditation, like a moving meditation for me. And because life was so chaotic and there was a lot of, a lot of stressful things going on in, in my family in that, that moment in time, my, you know, bigger extended family, that was the only time, uh, my mind was clear and I wasn't thinking about the past or thinking about the future. And woo. So in those moments is when I started to receive what I, I now know, but didn't know at the time were downloads, from higher self, from source, from spirit, from God, whatever word you would like to use. And information just started to drop in. And so I started to document these. Things. And I was like, oh, that's really interesting. And I would just jokingly call it manure meditations. And, but it felt so good that I was like excited to scoop poop every day, like right, you know, running out before breakfast, before coffee. And then those downloads became more detailed, more elaborate. Things started happening. Like the messages that came through started like they were premonitions for things. And that's when I realized and, and, and information started coming through, you know, it sounds like my own inner voice, but it was choosing the messages were using vocabulary that are not my own personal vocabulary. So that was like the, what is this? Um. And then I had some larger events of deaths in my life. So, uh, shortly after this started. And so the combination of the two really just kind of like pulled the plug on my abilities. And I had a lot of aha moments realizing that what I was experiencing out in with the cows or the, the cattle was me, psychic mediumship, the connection whistle source. So I still go out there every day. I still love it. I messages still come through. And now that I'm, I am like, all right, everybody, I'm here. It's like going home and checking your answering machine, right? Like, what did I miss while I was asleep or didn't miss, but now I'm ready to hear and ready to receive now. And it, it, it's all the time. And I love it. It's, it's wonderful. It's beautiful. I don't let anybody else scoop manure.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

Oh wow. That, that's quite a statement and I, I wonder if that's going to change over time or I wonder if that's gonna be a, a thing that you maintain. And, and I, I still resonate with so much of what you said. Like, I'm up in the morning, I'm looking forward to going out and changing the duck water checking on, uh, we have

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

heifer calf. She was our little surprise Gracie, and she's actually three months old today. every

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Oh.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

I, I look forward to, to going out and saying hi to the ducks, saying hi to, to Gracie, opening up the chicken coop. We have a, we have chicken named who, who's always waiting at the door, ready to get out first thing in the morning. we call it chores, but it's really. It, it can be more than that if you allow it to be. And, like, like most things in life, it comes to, comes down to your perspective and how you choose to look at the situations. And yeah, on one hand it, it could be a another job, something that you really don't want to do. Or if you just kind of surrender to it and, and go with it, it's like, okay, this is what I'm doing now. it's not about adding more, it's usually. 99% of the time about subtracting and taking away the, the mental

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yes.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

or the things that are potentially blocking you or taking up space that that spirit would love to come in and, and give you a download into. But when your cup is full, there's, there's no room for, for anything to come in. And I think most people are running with their cups flowing over from just Instagram or YouTube or just things coming in. We're constantly, we allow ourselves to be bombarded by information and we don't have strong boundaries around what we're willing to let in. And having personal, dedicated, quiet, meditative time and space, that what is available for a lot of people, pretty much everybody, so few people actually get to experience because they don't. that environment that, that mental or create that spaciousness in their life for these things to be able to come in.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

You hit on the, the two fullness of our lives and our minds. Um, I am currently writing a memoir of the first year of my life, of my abilities, awakening, and the very beginning of that you know, and the, the world of psychic abilities, mediumship abilities, and all of the, you know, woo woo of it all. I had no prior experience or knowledge or interest in it. And so when I started scooping that manure and started receiving these downloads, um, I started like kind of checking into it with some friends that I had and just like, you know, the internet and, um, the internet told me about the Full Moon being a time to let go of something. And this was. Had a really pivotal moment of my life. Um, my mother was about to pass. I had a lot, like, there was a lot of shadow work in her thing, just like everything coming to a head. And so I was like, all right, like, whatever, what, what's the worst that could happen if I do this full moon? Like, I look at the moon and I let something go, right? And I imagined, like when I went out and looked at the moon, I had this visual of, um, like a pie chart, right? And my pie chart was totally full. It was cram jammed, you know, 100% full. So what's that biggest wedge? What wedge am I willing to just take out and say like, I don't need this anymore, and I'm gonna, and I like, imagine myself giving this little wedge to the moon. And it was, I, I decided to choose the biggest or most difficult wedge. That I've been carrying around with for my whole entire life. And, and it just, I didn't think that was ever possible, but I was like, I'll give this to the moon. Whatever. Right? I gave that openness, right? My, my pie wedge was ready to receive something new and, you know, all those scary to let go of something you've, that's familiar, even though it's not beneficial to you. I just had to do it. That, that, that boiling point, that crescendo, that like something needed to happen. And so I made that choice to let go. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it just started going from there. Um, so I encourage, this is actually full moon tonight, by the way, so I know it won't be, you know, next one. Moon, every full moon doesn't have to be a full moon. Let go. Like, if, if this interests you, just pick something. Just imagine a little wedge and just send it off. Say thanks, and then goodbye.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

Well, like that touched on something for me and I think it's fortuitous and I, and I, I. F I'm feeling it, so I'm gonna share it. My partner

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

plan tonight to go do a full moon ritual of, of

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

sort like you mentioned there. And this, this has been something we've been planning for at least a week and a half, something that we're

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

So the fact that you brought that up, I don't think it's a coincidence. And

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Mm.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

don't think it's a coincidence and wow. Uh,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

It is easy to take that little pie, which, you know, like the one with the line pointing to it.'cause that wedge is so small, you're like, yeah, but like. No take. Take the big wedge, the biggest wedge. You're like, no, I'm pretty sure that wedge is cemented here. Nope, just, just, you got it.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

it just clicked with me what that wedge is for me and. I I, I'm feeling a bit emotional right now and, and before we were talking I was, I was going through a bit of a process and I, I typically meditate before recording one of these episodes and was thinking about farming and the, and the land that I'm on, knowing that I'm gonna be talking to you and we're gonna be, this is gonna be part of the conversation. In the beginning you said you introduce yourself as a farmer first because people have a, a preconceived notion like that's a, people kind of know what that is. And you mentioned there's like a logical person with the, their hands in the dirt and people who are connected with the earth and people who care about nature. When you said that, I realized that that is not my perception of farming whatsoever. It's actually the, the exact opposite of that. I grew, I grew up in a. On a commercial industrial farm. Not a, not a big one. And, I never saw logic in what we were doing. I never saw connection. I never, I never felt that growing up. And it was something that I wanted so deeply. But the, the, the way that, um, commercial industrial farming has done, it, it's not that at, at all. And there's a,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

no,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

there's a

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

at all.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

wants to be proud of the, the, the land and my community and, and where I'm from. And there's also a part of me who recognizes like, what's happening with industrial agriculture is, is deeply harmful.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Horrific. Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

not in, in accordance with nature. The pesticides, the herbicides, the way animals are treated and commoditized and, the piece of the pie chart that, that I need to, to let go of is this preconceived notion that it has to be way and that that's what farming is.'cause that, that was

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

knew about farming from the time I was, for as long as I can remember. And I, I've internalized that and, and have resisted the idea of farming for a long time because that's what I associated it with. and

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Right.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

a conflict in me and I, and I think a lot of people feel conflicted about farming on one hand. On one hand, we wanna believe that farmers are doing the best they can, and I believe that people do the best they can with the resources that they have. the,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

the people in my family, the farmers, my grandfather, our neighbors, they're incredibly good people who want to do what's right and who believe that they're doing what's right, and they're in a system that's not set up for them to, to be, to be able to have

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yes.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

It's, yes, on, on one hand, they're making a choice to, to be doing the work that they're doing. And has been something that's been in motion, that they're just kind of a cog in the wheel. They're just going along doing what, the rest of the people around them are doing, wanting to do the, the best that they can. And yeah.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

I think you, you touch on a point where, um, I agree everyone's trying to do their best. But then on the flip side, you get hit with, well, that's the way we've always done it. And it takes, it takes something to change that. And part of the reason why we enjoyed this property, I guess disclaimer, we don't farm for profit. We are technically, you know, we are a homestead and we don't sell anything. There's just for a lot of reasons we just, this is for ourselves as sustain our family. And so what we really enjoyed about this property is it has the land and space for animals, but it didn't have infrastructure set up to handle the animals in a certain way. We re we got to handle them on our way. I also think I have, uh, a little bit of a unique opportunity when I introduce myself as a farmer.'cause usually what I hear is, you don't look like a farmer. And then I get to say, yeah, well I'm not like I farm in a different way. And I get to use that as a segue into education of how we can do things differently. And how different is not always bad. Different can be very good, different can be beneficial. But when we're talking about commercial farming, when it, you know, millions of dollars for machines, subsidies, all of these things. Like we, we didn't wanna go in for profit'cause we didn't want the red tape. We really wanted to give, give back. Um, I know we, I'm very grateful to be in that position that we don't have to sell. Um, we will be like, we're breeding our cattle, one for milk Right. But also so that we can sell it. And that would be the extent of it. But I know it's just, it's, it's a rock and a hard place to make such a big change when, when there's so much restriction tied on farms that get passed down generation to generation. And I don't want to come across as like, that's something easy. That's a easy hurdle to jump over.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

Yeah. It, it's such a, a deep and

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

topic and it's, you know, it's a part of our, like like the, the founding of America, America was, the United States was, as we know it today, I mean, there were obviously people here before, and especially in the area that I'm in, in southwestern Minnesota, there is a, a rich indigenous history and, and culture. And, and I like, I want to acknowledge that, and America as we know it today, the country that it is, was founded by people who, in large part like came across and settled this incredible land and, were farmers and, without that cities wouldn't be. You wouldn't be able to have a city if there wasn't a, a food, an external food supply being, being shipped in. So lot of the, and for, for better or worse, that this continent has experienced is, is as a result of the toil and hard work of people who are willing to, to work with the land and farm it and, and do that agricultural labor and play that role, which allows the, the flourishing of in industry and, and all that comes along with that. And what about your story? The thing that that is kind of clicking with me is that you're, you're moving in the opposite direction. Like you, you're from the, from Boston to a

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

away from the city. You, you mentioned your memoir. What was your experience like as your, as you became aware of your psychic abilities or as these gifts started to become more prominent? I, I'd love to hear a little bit about your story and how this, this kind of began and started to become more of a thing in your life.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Sure. So, so focusing, yeah, more on that psychic ability. you know, it really started a few years prior in 2020 when my grandfather passed and he was really my true connection with nature. He hunt, he fished, he, um, made, you know, was always in his workshop making tools and contraptions and, you know, you name it, he did it. And so I, some of my most cherished experiences out in nature were connected with him. Um, so when he passed, um, I did have a visit with him and that was really wonderful. And that was kind of the kickoff point of, oh, this. Life after death. Like that, that's a thing. Like it's, it's not over then.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

you, you,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Um, and so, yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

he passed. So when he was out. Okay. When

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yes.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

was, uh.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah. Sorry. I'm just like, kind of lowkey throwing that in. So, yes. A, a couple of weeks after he had passed, I woke up in my, my bed. My husband was still like, he loves to fall asleep at the, on the couch before falling asleep upstairs, right? So he wasn't in bed yet. I turned over and, um, my grandfather's silhouette is very distinct with his nose and, you know, just the shape of his face. So I very much saw him. And, in his, later in his final years, his strength was weakened. And so instead of what we call the big bear hug, right? It feels like he's gonna crack all your ribs. He would do a squeeze three times with the hand, you know, the strongest he could get. And so when I looked over in, uh, in the bed, I saw his silhouette and I could feel his hands. Um, you know, I could feel the wryness of an, the hair on his knuckles and, and the, you know, they were large and I could just feel the texture of his skin and I could feel that three hand squeezes. And so, and, and that was, and that was the visit. Um, and I, I was awake. I was there like I know it, that that was him. Um, I, I didn't try and deny it. And he's, he's a very active person in spirit. It's not just me. Many members of my family. Lots of different, yeah. So, so I'm like, all right, yeah, I see you grandpa. Like, and, and so he has been, he is not a guide, but he is, you know, a past love on him. And some of my guides have really shown me how we work through life, uh, how we move through life, how we move through time. And again, it's all this information that came in and, and like, makes logical sense to me and like, yeah, all right, that checks out. But that's not that I would've never come up with on my own. So from his death, that kind of kicked it off. And then my mother passed in September of 2023. And the connections with her, and the communications with her undeniable, uh, the amount and other people witnessing it and experiencing it. And honestly, I went back and forth of like knowing deep in my heart that this is absolutely 100% true. And the other half telling my husband if he thought I needed to be checked into a mental facility, that I trusted his judgment more than mine at this moment in time. So that year so much growth in me, the, my ability to trust myself, my ability to remember and recall and just really not gaslight myself anymore. A lot of information came out about the ability to zoom out and really look at something, uh, all of these different situations, not just from my Allison horse Blinder perspective, but all different perspectives and in that ability, practicing it and working with it, and now trying, doing my very best to live that way on a, on my, in my daily life is that when you look at a situation, whether it's trauma like. I'm gonna just use trauma for this conversation. Very traumatic experiences. We relive it in this same perspective over and over and over. And if we zoom out a little bit and we're willing to look at it from different angles and think about that bigger reason of why it might have happened or could have happened, or what was going on for the other people involved, well then it starts to, your perspective starts to dissolve and it's just an event. And now it's just rain. Now it's just information, uh, going back to our, the beginning of this conversation. And so really my memoir is taking multiple traumatic events in my life that are quite relatable, unfortunately, to the majority of people everywhere, and giving this deep vulnerable. Play by play of working it out and zooming out and looking at it in different perspectives to be able to heal from it. And the more you do, the more I did that, the more my ability just kept stronger and higher and more. I'm so grateful for it. It was the hardest year of my life. I have never cried harder. I have never felt more confused. I have never felt more alone and not alone at the same time. Um, and so yeah, now I am, um, let's see. August will be two years for me of, of my spiritual awakening. And in this second year, I can say that now with this, um, firm, confidence in myself, firm confidence in my ability, no longer willing to potentially gaslight my it, is that real? Is that not Life is so much more richer and makes so much more sense? And I, I, I'm, I'm so grateful for scooping manure. so, and, and then when I believed in myself, right, I stopped trying to gaslight myself. Then I was able to provide readings in this same sort of insight for other people. You know, first starting with family members, then like distant friends, and now for complete strangers, that book readings with me, and that feels really good. And that feels like the symbiotic relationship that I want to have with my fellow humans. And I love it.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

So a, an interesting paradox there or sort of paradox, and it's something that we again talked about earlier in the conversation about that gaining an ability doesn't mean you need to do more. It's it's doing less. And as you were talking there about zooming out, I, I kind of perceive that as you were learning how to disidentify the personal Alice Allison with like. Yeah, you, you were, you were learning to take a, larger view and, and see things from a perspective that maybe is not from right behind your eyes. It's not the, it's a,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

egocentric perspective and, and gaining the ability to, to look at, at things as more of an observer without, without having so much attachment to the outcome or, or the, the ideas of Allison or the, the memories of Allison, but, but gaining a, a maybe more objective or just a nuanced perspective on, on situations that you lived through and had a lived experience of, but then were able to derive new meaning from, given the different perspective. And I. The, I think that the term, the, the phrase bypassing, I feel like is getting thrown around a lot now. And like I could see how somebody might, I might label what you described as bypassing, choosing to look at your lived experience through, through a different lens, as if that is a form of not acknowledging what's actually going on or trying to, create something that's not there or give that situation meaning that it didn't inherently have. So, I, I, I'm curious about your, you know, as you're evolving, it sounds like you're still, I think we all, we're all in a process of life. It sounds like you're still in this process of, of getting more clear and learning especially if you're doing readings, it means you are more so in the observer position. You're, you're less identified with the ego and, uh, a strong sense of self and, and able to connect with other senses of self. So like, what, what, what would you say to somebody who's maybe never had that experience of, you know, allowing yourself to maybe not clinging so tightly to, to who you think you are or the, the thoughts you have about yourself.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

I don't think we have to put a trigger warning about this, but I would say many of, of what I, things that I worked, traumatic events I worked through, it's still working through.'cause if you're not working on it like you are, right? Like, just, just wait, take a breath. Blink and you'll see that you still have more to do. Many different about all of the different types of abuse experience thoroughly in my life. And so I let that define me in a lot of ways as a survivor of this one, that one, that one, that one, that one. And I realized I, I don't want to be labeled like we, we carry our labels like badges as a way that we can relate to each other. And I get that because it feels like a sense of community. And for many years I did that majority of my life, almost my entire life. Right. And so I see it like the visual that comes to me right now to explain it is you think of like those big onesies, like the hooded onesies. It's a big zip up, right? And you just see my face and you, I've got this one Z on. Um, and it looks like that's part of me. It's covering every, every inch of my body except for my face. And maybe it's like one of those really fuzzy ones and you don't really see that there's a zipper and you don't think you could ever get out of it. I can't put my head through the arm hold. I can't. Right. There's no way to get out of it. It's just part of me. Okay, whatever.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

as like a Teletubby. Like your face on a,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah, yeah. You

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

a tell the tubby body.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

choose, choose whatever full body suit you want me to be in at this moment in time. But when you realize that there's a zipper there and you can unzip it, maybe it's in the back, maybe it's, you know, maybe in the front it's a little bit easier to see. Maybe it's in the back and you just felt like something hitting and you're curious enough to pull it down and see what's really there. So when I see. Uh, my, my biggest wedge of my moon, right, was my biggest, earliest traumatic experience. And when I was willing to zip this, this survivor, this victim of this experience, and remove it from me, and then I just see it laying there on the floor and I'm like, oh, that wasn't me. This is me. This was just something that was very closely connected to me for, it wasn't even connected. It was just hanging on me. And so just acknowledging that these experiences are experiences, I, yes, they happen to me. I am not them, and they are not me in something that my therapist helped me and she told me about the, the, your cells turnover every seven years. So every seven years you're physically a new person. She's like, this, what happened to you back then? That's not even who you are now. And something that I recently realized is, um, you know, for homesteaders, they talk about that seven year mark of like you've, and so I think about the turning over and regeneration of the land and your efforts and your whole way of living changes and somehow in the same amount of time that that cell turnover happens in your own physical body. And isn't that funny? And so I just think about it as a process that you need to start. It's not easy. It's not enjoyable in a lot of parts. I could have stayed in that, I could have kept my little onesie on of like the victim hood and everybody was like, I also am a victim of this thing. I too have this outfit on, but I would like to just get to know the real me. And so I was willing to do that. So I feel more like bypassing would be to keep that label or badge a victim or survivor on. I feel like that's bypassing.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

and I think that's of why I felt like it was paradoxical, like getting, letting go of it is actually completing a process and, going through the entire process of whatever that was. and finally letting go of it is like having the full experience, whereas, so you're not bypassing it, you're this. I think what a lot of people perceive as, or label as bypassing just the completion of a process and no longer identification with it. It's like, no, you're, yeah, that thing happened, am, I'm not that thing. I'm, bypassing it. I'm just done with it. I've learned what I needed to learn. I don't necessarily need, you know, whatever that, that thing that was on me, that, that experience, that, that self-identification

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

not necessary at

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

yeah, Yeah. I know. I am more than that. I know I am more than just a farmer. I know I'm more than just a mother, a psychic medium, a victim or a survivor. Those are just experiences versus this is me.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

When it comes to that, this is me part,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

any practices or mindsets or any tangible. Things that, that, that you've done or that somebody else can do help realize that, you know, this is me beneath all of the layers of trauma and, and labels and, and identification.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

This is new territory for me. So, as you know, it's very recent in my journey, so I will do the best I can to describe how it feels for me. One as cliche as it sounds, is my inside my inner monologue, my inner thoughts are matching what I'm comfortable speaking and doing. Uh, you know, my inner world matches my outer world, um, for many years, majority of my life, right? I always felt like I was too much for people and kept so much of that hidden and repressed. And it feels like if you feel like you have to hide part of yourself, I think taking a really good look at why you feel that way, because it's probably not something that you decided, it was probably an experience that you had that made you say, okay, I realize it's not safe to do this anymore. It's not safe to speak this way, look this way, behave this way. I need to close that. And so just take a, a big hard look in the way. If it's meditation, if it's, uh, therapy, if it's, uh, journaling, like whatever feels good, if it's just walking out in nature and just letting the plates tell you, um, whatever, whatever suits you, figure out why you feel like you can't have that internal factor, match your external life. I think that's the, that's the biggest one because now I don't feel the need to censor myself anymore. And that has been really freeing. It was very scary at first, right? There was, I didn't tell anyone besides my inner circle about these psychic mediumship abilities for the first year and a half-ish, uh, year. I don't know if I have, if I've depart, went down a different path too much from your original question, but inner world meeting, outer world, and this is a fluid, there's no barrier here. There's not like gates that need to open and shut. It's just freely moving back and forth. There's no boundary anymore that I, that I put up that I decided I needed to put up.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

Wow. Thank you for sharing that. Let's see. A perspective and something I hadn't really or, or just hadn't really thought about in that way, I've thought about it in different ways, but the, the way that you articulated that was, was something I had, I had not heard before and is kind of expanding my, my perception of, and how I think about authenticity and just being yourself by allowing those, in, identifying those internal boundaries and barriers that, that we ourselves either put up or agree to, and, and really examining them and seeing is this really in alignment? Is this preventing me from, from having that, you know, that that alignment between the external world and the internal world and recognizing that if there's a dissonance there, it's going to manifest in our lives in some way. That's probably, uh. Yeah.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

I am savory.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

Yeah. Probably unsavory. Yeah. That, that's a, that's a great word to use. Allison, this has been, an incredible conversation. Thank you so much for, for taking the time to chat with me. I'm sure there are gonna be people who,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Thank you for having me.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

I'm sure there are gonna be people who want to learn more about work and the, the services that you provide in your psychic mediumship. I, I know you're not selling eggs at this point, but maybe in the future that'll be,

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

people will want to know where your farm stand is, but, you know, in terms of people, you know, wanting to inquire about having a session with you or learning more about, how, how you help people, uh, how can people get ahold of you.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

sure. Um, I'm on Instagram. Little, little less than normal right now because I'm out in the garden and not on the computer. You can find me. My name on Instagram is Brain Wiggle, and my website is brain wiggle.com. I offer psychic readings, psychic mediumship readings, and I also do intuitive business consultations. So that's why I do a little bit of a psychic connection, energetic connection with you. So I use this part of, you know, one side of, uh, my skills to help tap into what's holding up, uh, your business. And then I use my former experience in strategic communications and strategic planning to help figure out, okay, we've identified what's what's in the way, and let's work on order of operations in a, a logical, analytical, fiscally responsible way to achieve those goals for your company's highest and greatest good.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

That's awesome and I, I feel like there are more and more people who are. beginning to recognize that our, mind, body, and spirit are all interconnected. Our business and our vocation, our work life is intimately connected with, uh, our physical health and our spiritual health. So finding a place where you

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

So,

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

address both of those areas at the same time is probably going to give us a more holistic view and a, a clearer picture of the tangible things that we can do that are gonna really move the needle in our business and get, get us to progress in the way that not only feels good, but is, um, responsible. As you say, it's, it's a, it all works together rather than just trying to level up one area of our life while I, while not

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

yeah, God raise everything together.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

all the

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

like, no, if we look at all these things and try to try to. Bring balance and, and

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

I.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

up simultaneously. That's going to be a, a better approach and a sustainable way to, to progress and, and build the kind of thriving and abundant lives that we want.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Absolutely.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

thank you so much. Uh, I feel like we could talk, we could talk shop for a long time and, and I hope that we can someday in the future have another conversation. I'd, I'd love to hear about the, the progress on both fronts on your farm and, uh, on your psychic mediumship journey at some point in the future. And I'm sure, I'm sure you'll have a lot of stories to tell.

allison-peterson_1_07-10-2025_100839:

Oh, I'm sure it will be my pleasure.

ian-vogel_1_07-10-2025_090448:

Thank you so much, Allison.