Alternate Timelines with Ian Vogel

Galactic History, Soul Retrieval & Timeline Healing w/ Renee Slay

• Ian Vogel • Episode 22

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What if your chronic pain, grief, or trauma… wasn’t just from this life?

In this episode of Alternate Timelines, Renee Slay—a quantum soul healer, hypnotherapist, and timeline rewriting guide—reveals how past life trauma, parallel timelines, and soul fragmentation can affect your present reality.

From soul retrieval and astral projection to the forgotten cosmic history of Tara and Tiamat, this conversation dives deep into what it means to truly reclaim your sovereignty and heal on a multidimensional level.

If you’ve ever felt like you’re here for a reason… or that something ancient is waking up within you… you’re not alone. This episode is your activation.

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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:50 Meet Renee Slay
02:11 Past Life Regression
07:30 Experiencing Parallel Lives
12:10 Astral Projection and Remote Viewing
22:02 Integration and Self-Guidance
28:38 Soul Retrieval and Healing
40:43 Galactic History 
48:53 The Negative Alien Agenda
55:34 Ascension
01:02:53 Empowerment and Overcoming Victimhood
01:14:31 Conclusion and Contact Information

About the Guest:
Renee Slay is a quantum soul healer, hypnotherapist, and timeline architect who specializes in soul retrieval and multidimensional healing. Her intuitive practice weaves together deep trauma resolution, past life regression, and galactic downloads from the Elohim and Emerald Order.

Renee helps clients reconnect with their higher selves, access memories across time and dimensions, and heal energetic imprints carried through lifetimes. Her work is rooted in reclaiming sovereignty and remembering our sacred origins—across time, space, and soul lineages.

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Hey, I’m Ian Vogel—host of Alternate Timelines. My journey started on a small farm in the midwest, where I always felt a little out of place. After years of skepticism and even a stint as an atheist, a near-death experience changed my perspective on everything. Since then, I’ve explored plant medicine, past life memories, and the mysteries of consciousness. Now, I’m sharing those experiences to help others navigate their own awakening. Through real stories, deep conversations, and wild explorations of the unknown, we’re building a community where it’s okay to question reality. You’re not alone in the unknown. 👽✨

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

I was literally walking between dimensions, like I was experiencing contacts from elementals, from cryptids, from interdimensional beings, from angels. All kinds of beings were contacting me all at once. They were just one day like, here you go. Here is a millions of years of cosmic history and we're just gonna give it all to you right now and you gotta figure out what to do with it. But I know. In my heart, this is what I came here to do, is to transmit the history, help people understand where we really came from, and remember their sovereignty and their connection to, to unity consciousness, and integrating all the parts of themselves. Just a big soul retrieval mission.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

Renee, when you meet somebody for the first time, say you're at a party and they ask you what you do, how do you respond?

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

It depends on the party, how

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

says that and that makes sense. But

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Yeah. It so. If I were to be my authentic self and express who I what I really do, I would say I am a quantum soul healer and I help rewrite timelines. Um, I would say that I'm an energy reader and I'm able to, when I sit with a client, I'm able to actually like energetically feel what they're feeling in their body. I can tell what parts of their body they have issues with, so I'm like, yeah, an energy reader and a timeline writer, a hypnotherapist. So I quantum soul healer feels like the right thing because I'm kind of helping people heal in their physical bodies. Helping people heal in past lives, future lives, parallel lives, this life. Um, helping people remember who they are truly is what it comes down to.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

When it comes to the, the past life healing, you know, you said you do, life regressions, and what does it, what does it look like? What does that process look like, and what do people come to you for? Like what, what are they dealing with when they come to you?

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Normally I'm gonna sit down with them, well first we're gonna have a phone call and I'm gonna make sure this is something we should even do because it can be intense

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

Hmm.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

because you might actually experience your death, you know? So that needs to be something that you are able to mentally process, emotionally, process, and be able to stay grounded. So we go through that phone call, and then when we move forward. We'll sit down for a session that's about three to four hours. It depends on what happens. So I'll interview them, get to know them, ask them questions about what they are dealing with, what they hope to gain from this, is there anything they want to see? And most of the time they, sometimes I, sometimes they are coming in just wanting to experience a past life. They don't really know what they wanna heal. But then other times it could be someone who is dealing with an eating disorder or someone who keeps attracting toxic people in their life, or someone who can't hold onto money no matter what they do. They're just always impoverished or they are scared to be their authentic selves. It's a persecution wound. So it can be all kinds of reasons. Sometimes people just wanna have fun and they're like, I just wanna know, you know,'cause it. Opens up a different part of your perspective that you haven't experienced before. So then we, I figure out what they are, like, what they're into, what imagery they resonate with their belief systems, because I don't wanna offend people either. So I'm just kinda getting an overall general picture of who they are and what kind of journey I'm gonna take them on. And then I'm gonna take them through a relaxation process and different techniques to help them go into hypnosis easier. Some people take a little longer. I don't just do progressive relaxation. I do all different kinds of techniques because it's gonna help that person go deeper into the subconscious, the more techniques you use. So you could have them like stare at a wall and count out loud, or have them move their eyes back and forth. You know, just different techniques that. Makes their brain wanna give up and they're like, okay, I'm ready. So then we get into hypnosis and I'm just gonna take them. Normally we will take, I'll take them to some kind of setting, maybe a movie theater or a lake of water or they're looking at a mirror. It just depends on the person. Some kind of reflective surface or some, or somewhere where they can see a movie, see a picture. It just depends on the person. Like if I know they're really into movies, I'm gonna take'em to a movie theater. If they're really into nature, I'm gonna take'em to a waterfall that has a reflective pool that they can turn into the screen. So then I have them connect with their higher cells while I ground them, go through some energy protection just to make sure that we are being grounded and not going all over the place. Um,'cause it is a very intense process and you just never know where you're gonna go. Exactly. So I try to be really intentional. And that I want their higher self to show them what they need to know right now, what they need to experience right now. Even if they just wanna have fun, I let them know this is like, this is a healing journey. So this, you know, things are gonna come up that need to be healed. That's just the way my process works. So then they, they are, look, they, they're connecting with their higher self. And then we allow the past life, future life, parallel life, whatever comes up to start to manifest. Um, sometimes I will even have them like walk down hallways and there will be different doorways and they can walk through the doorway into the life and I can have them begin to imagine their clothes changing and, and that way kind of works. Or I'll have them kind of go into the pool of water and it's like a portal.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

Hmm.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

And then they become that life. And I just take them on whatever journey I decide is the right way to get there. And they will experience a scene from a life. You know, they'll see, it depends on how visual people are because there are some people who will just get glimpses because their third eyes haven't been practiced very much or they just can't visualize at all. And I've had a few clients like that. So that is a little bit, there are more feeling energy, seeing shapes and lights and stuff. But I do believe those people who can't see, they do eventually begin to open up to that. I, it's a blockage from my experience. Something happened to make them close off their site, but 95% of the time people can visualize pretty well. So I could give an example.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

I'm particularly curious about the parallel lives thing because I've, as I was sharing with you before we got on, I recent, actually yesterday had an experience of not exactly being there, but I've, I was able to perceive a parallel life, which is relatively uncommon for me. I mean, I've, I've had the experience before and even had experiences where I've been able to almost get a glimpse of lives that weren't mine, that they didn't feel familiar what whatsoever, but I felt like I was being shown something. For a reason that there was something I was supposed to learn, uh, but yeah, like what, what is your experience and like some of your experiences with your clients in accessing parallel lives and what is that like for you?

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

So. Honestly, it's only come up a few times with clients. This is mainly something that I go through myself, but when it has come up, it's, it's because it's normally grief or they lost someone, or there is something they need to communicate to someone who's still alive in another timeline. Does that make sense?

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

yeah.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

So for me, like the times that I have worked with parallel timelines, it's to communicate to people who have passed on. Like, for, like, I will give an example of someone in my own life. So I had a roommate and trigger warning to people who listened to this, but he did pass away from s*de I had a, a lucid astral experience where I was in a timeline, another timeline where he, I was in the same house. My roommate was alive still, and it was still, it was like the same world that I live in now. But things were slightly different. It was like I had jumped in to the body of me in a parallel timeline where he hadn't committed s*de, but he was pondering it in that lifetime. So I ended up talking to him and letting him know I am from a timeline where you died like you just died, and you can't do that to yourself in this life because your friends and family loved you so much. They came to your funeral. There were so many people there who expressed how much they loved you and how much they wish you were still here and you need to know how loved you are and that you can't take your life because you regret it so much. His ghost was bothering me in my timeline because he was like, damn it, why did I do that? He was mad at himself. So it was, that is the kind of stuff where I like the kind of timeline rewriting that happened. So whatever, for some reason I was needed to go there. To help him not do that. And it helped. He believed me. And so this is the kinda work you can do with clients is not to permit s*de, but to communicate with loved ones, the kind of messages they need to give on or like give them some kind of closure. I feel like it's a beautiful thing and it's happened to me with several other people in my life who have passed where I've gotten to meet them in a timeline where they're alive still and talk to them. But I'm aware that I'm not from there. Every dream that it happens, it's not like I'm lost in that world. I'm aware that I am visiting a timeline that is not mine. So.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

so there, there's some sort of unresolved energy or relationship, or do you find that it's usually some sort of interpersonal relationship that will pull somebody into a parallel

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

I think it's normally someone that was close to you. Yeah. But I have, you're talking about seeing lifetimes that don't belong to you. That has, sometimes I will randomly remote view, like I will be laying down in bed and I will see a tunnel and then my consciousness is flying and I'm seeing someone walking down a street holding a briefcase. I'm seeing a family eating in a living room or, and watching tv. I'm seeing glimpses of lifetimes of people that I don't know. So that could be something that's happening to you where you're like, you might be traveling. Because when I travel, I will see it's like. My consciousness is able to witness. It's my astral body, I think, flying through the planet or something. I don't know if that's ever happened to you.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

It's, I, I've, I've Astro projected exactly two times and. It was never that I'm consciously aware of. And, and neither one of those times was intentional. There was, there, there was a, there was a period of time where I was practicing. I, I was trying to astral project intentionally and I had a, a whole practice around it and I was, I think I was doing the, the rope, like the pulling

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Oh yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

And I would get to the point where my body would start to, would start to vibrate and I felt like I was about to pop out, I would get freaked out and

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

oh,

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

I was never able to

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

to like break through.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

I, I got right up next to it, but I was never able to break through. I was, I just wasn't able to get quite deep in, deeply relaxed enough. but it did happen two times, seemingly. Randomly. So I, I, I

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

It happens to me randomly too. It's like not usually something I'm trying to do. It'll just happen. The most recent one where I've been sleeping, my bed will vibrate, my body will vibrate. Literally, it feels like I'm in an earthquake and everything's shaking, and that's why I know I'm about to leave and I've, I've been astral projecting, I think. I'm pretty sure that's what's happening, but I keep, I'm in these buildings where there's, people are working in the buildings and they aren't aware that I'm there and I'm hearing their conversations and I'm able to float through like secret rooms that are locked.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

Hmm.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

I know. So I'm astral projecting and hearing secret conversations and it feels, I'm not even gonna say it, I don't want to get your podcast pledge, but it feels connected to the, the GOV, you know. Um, and that's new one for me because I haven't been asked to projecting much lately, but the last three times in a row it's been this building full of Army people.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

Hmm.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

And they, but I can see them and they can't see me.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

Well,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

And I'll be like, floating in the seat, the top of the ceiling.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

well, I, I, I get a sense that we're in a, a time where, you know, as we speak right now, this is the, we're the deep in the midst of the Epstein files. They're talking about wanting to release them, or they're, they're being prevented from being released by the, the current administration. Who knows who, who knows how that's gonna play out in the future, but I, I sense there's an underlying energy just within our collective consciousness of wanting. For secrecy to end or wanting there, for there to be more transparency around like really serious situations that, that affect our collective consciousness and that they're the, the universe is just creating these different scenarios where things are bubbling up to the surface, be it the Epstein files or people are being in astral projected and brought to spaces where there are secretive things happening so that, you know, for whatever reason, you're able to, like, I, I, I trust that you're going to tell or not tell whatever's appropriate, but, but that, that information, it's. It's no longer being able to be confined. Like it's, it's finding its way out to the

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Right.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

And it's like this, this secrecy thing, the way that it has been for so long, it's breaking down on multiple levels. And I think like what you're describing is probably just one aspect of, of our, this deep collective consciousness, desire for humanity to, to be sovereign and for us to not be beholden to the, the governments or these old systems that are not working in our greatest good.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

That's just so funny that I'm go, I'm going to sleep and I'm like, I'm gonna spy. That's so me. That's so me. I always wanted to be a spy. I guess you can just do it in the astral realm, you know? That's so funny.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

the government has had, I forget exactly what the name of the program is, but the, you know, the government has employed. As pro, uh, people who, who do remote viewing. It's, it's a well known thing.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Oh yeah, I did know about that.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

was it Project Stargate? I forget exactly what the name of the, of the project was, but it's, it's, it's well known and people have been talking about it openly. It's been disclosed for, for quite some time. So this is not a, you know, the fact that people can Astro Project is a,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

government is well aware of and has been well aware of for quite some time.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

It's so weird too, because when it's, when it's happening, I'm able to control, like I can go through the walls like they're jello. So that's how I know I'm not a body because the, because I don't feel the walls, I don't feel anything. So that's been kind of cool. That's been kind, but I'm, I'm not like consciously remembering a lot of what I'm seeing. I think I must be subconsciously storing it, maybe because it's, it's probably something intense. So that's been the kind of stuff that's been happening to me the past two weeks is like, for a while I was not experiencing this stuff much at all. Like for a few years it kinda stopped. And then the past two weeks, it's just been so much contact, so many downloads, the universe communicating with me, feeling like I'm like stepping back into putting myself in a more public eye.'cause I've been just hiding in the shadows for a couple years except on TikTok.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

So you're, you're saying that there, there was a period of time where your, uh, senses were maybe more heightened or you were having more sensory or psychic experiences, and then that kind of subsided for a while and now they're starting to become, uh, more, more a part of your everyday life again.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Yeah, so it was, I was literally walking between dimensions, like I was experiencing contacts from elementals, from cryptids, from interdimensional beings, from angels. All kinds of beings were contacting me all at once. Plus, I had military stuff going on. I had a human trauma occurring to me at the same time. So there was so much stuff happening, and that's how I lived life for a while. And it was, I mean, direct contact. I would ask source for a sign, I would get a direct message like I had. I would had direct knowing I was downloading all of the history of the cosmos and how humans came to earth, where we came from, how this earth came, the way it became, the way it was. They showed me visions of it happening. They showed me things I had never heard of before, like full on visions and I was awake during these visions. So that was crazy. They were just one day like, here you go. Here is a millions of years of cosmic history and we're just gonna give it all to you right now and you gotta figure out what to do with it. So I am a record keeper. That is one of my roles here is, is to transmit the light into the grids and hold the records for disclosure to the collective. And I think doing this, these, this quantum healing with people is a way that I'm helping as well, because I'm also giving people the codes they need to. Does that make sense?

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like, if, if you were a repository for a, a lot of information, then it, it would make sense that you, I mean, doing the role that you're doing, helping guide people to, to whatever, you know, whatever situation they need for either learning or healing or, or both. It seems like you'd be in a, a rather unique situation to be able to facilitate that sort of, journey or experience for somebody. And now I, I believe on some level, everybody has that capacity. And on some level, everybody has that capacity and. We all have roles to play, and just because you can make a downloads of information doesn't mean that that's necessarily in alignment with your soul's group blueprint or your mission or your in this lifetime.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Mm-hmm. Hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

you know, it takes, it takes all of us working together to, to create this like, tapestry of humanity. And, and I really think of it as, as like a play, like we all have different parts to play, uh,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Yeah. And we all have different talents and different gifts and different, we have different things that we came. We can't all do the same thing. There's just

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

everything all at once.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

and that's what I would always try to do is everything all at once.'cause I do have a lot of different abilities and it made it very hard for me to choose where to focus. But I know. In my heart, this is what I came here to do, is to transmit the history, help people understand where we really came from, and remember their sovereignty and their connection to, to unity consciousness, Christo's consciousness, remembering their holy mother and integrating all the parts of themselves. Just a big soul retrieval mission.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

So would you say that there was a period of time where you received a lot of information but then you had to take an integration period where there was, you know, where there wasn't as much input so that you could kind of digest what you had been given so that you could actually utilize it in a meaningful way?

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Yes, definitely. Um, I would say that, that that big information like that happened for a good, I would say three and a half years. It was pretty long. Then I got into a bad relationship and what, you know, what your higher self will do when you're in toxic relationships? It will close parts of you off to protect you. So I didn't get completely closed off. I was still pretty connected, but it was slowly closing in on me. And then I realized that I was always looking outside of myself for answers outside of myself, for like, God, please tell me, should I be with this person? Show me a sign. And I'm like, I can't be asking that all the time. I gotta listen to myself. So it was the trauma that did it, but it was also just my time to learn how to listen to myself and how to remember that I do have my spirit family that loves me. I have my galactic family that loves me. I have my angels that loves me. They're always there. They're always protecting me, but they also have other people they gotta help too. And I can't always expect them to be there at my every beck and call when I need guidance or where I don't know which way to go. You have to learn how to guide myself. You can't just, I think you talked about that analogy, like you can't get someone through school and then expect them. Expect them to like keep teaching you when you graduated already. It's like you already know what to do. I can't keep following you around forever.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

Yeah, I mean at, at some point it, some point it is useful to have mentors and once they transmit their information to you, once you learn what you need to learn, if you hang onto that mentor, mentor, that person who at, at one point helped you to expand, then becomes like a ball and chain or is restricting you from away, uh, from, from being able to maybe find a, a different mentor or go out on your own and have a, a path of self-initiation.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Right?

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

I think Ramdas talks about this beautifully and, and he talks about it a lot, like don't get attached to the practice because the thing that, that at one point in time helps you feel expansive. you're not really self-aware, it's hard to pinpoint when, when that practice goes from helping you to holding you back. Like you go, you go over that middle line and it's. It's really, you're really honest with yourself and have a ton of self-awareness, it's hard to differentiate where that point is

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

And most people don't realize that they're, that they're in a place of being held back by, you know, by tool they're using

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Or guru, they're following like.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

Same kind of thing. People often don't realize that until, until they look back and like, oh, dang, I've been doing this thing for the last couple years and my life hasn't been improving. Maybe it's time for me to, to like or really consider what's going on here. And, and it all kind of. down to how attached we are to the tools or the, the vector or the, you know, our, our path or the guru or whatever it is that we, that external thing that we feel like is, is helping us to progress.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

And it like when you're, my mentors, were all like galactic beings, so you feel really attached to them when you get to like be around that energy. And that's something you don't wanna let go of because. As someone who is a star seed and is not from this earth, but is an a human now, I never felt like I fit in. I never felt like I had that connection with anyone. And so my guides just helped me so much and they helped me through my re toxic relationship too, like letting me know they didn't leave me, guiding me, giving me synchronicities, helping me know which way to go. And then I left that relationship and I moved to a new city and they cut off all contact with me. Literally I started a new timeline. Yep. They're like, we got you here now you gotta figure it out, girl. And it was very hard because yeah, I go through, I have a like chronic pain and other things that I deal with, so, and leaving an abusive relationship, my nervous system was so shot. I was very mad at the universe for do, for making me feel abandoned. And then I got in my victim energy for a long time and it put me on like a deep, dark night of the soul journey where I really had to learn how to be there for myself and how to reconnect to my body and reconnect to my breath, and not always seeking outside of myself always. And that's where I, uh. That's where I get like so apprehensive with all these channelers and stuff too, because they're always seeking and you don't know what else is seeking you out there. You don't really know where your channel's going.'cause we're more powerful than people know. They're tuning into all kinds of weird shit. So tune into yourself, connect with your multidimensional selves, your higher selves. You have so many aspects of you. Your over soul is massive. There are so many parts of you that you can connect with. It doesn't have to be something else. But I do still work with my guides and different, you know, different energies, but I'm not relying on them for shit. You know, you can't rely on them to get you through. And so I've been in that integration period for two years. Yeah. So I have honestly not been working with clients much the past two years because I needed to work on me. And just, I guess since I started reconnect or connecting with you recently, I've really been feeling this energy that it's time for me to get it back out there and offer this work.'cause it's, I really believe like soul retrieval is a very important thing, like a very important part of healing and a very important part of people remembering who they are and being able to, we have to integrate our whole selves if we wanna ascend, you know, people we're just trying to escape and we're relieving all the bits of us behind that are scattered here throughout all the different timelines of crap. Like I'll give, I wanna give one more example of like a past life regression that I did, and she did give me permission to discuss this. So she was struggling with eating disorder in this life and could not, and was very, very stru like struggling to. Be able to not emotionally eat. She felt like she never had enough food and she knew it was something past life related. And I took her into this past life where she was an indigenous man who was excommunicated from his tribe and there was no resources and he had no weapons. And so he starved to death, and that was keeping her in this lifetime feeling like she could not get enough food and was making herself sick from it. And so we healed that part of her in that timeline and it really did help her in this reality. And so just things like that, like your past life could be doing so many things to you that you don't even realize is connected to your past life, or it could be just, I mean, it doesn't have to be an illness. It can be, you know, just feeling insecure or feeling like you can't use your voice or. Your knee hurts all the time and you don't know why and you never did anything to your knee.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

Birthmarks.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

yeah, birth, that's another cool one. I have a huge birthmark. So when they gave me all those visions, they showed me when I lived in Atlantis and I was a Mer person that lived in Atlantis and they showed me when Atlantis fell and there was like fire from the sky. But also they don't talk about how the titans came out of the ocean during the fall of Atlantis and crush everything at the same time. So we had destruction coming from the ocean as well as from the sky. And I have a huge birthmark in the center of my, like in my inner thigh that's about this big. And in that vision they showed a piece of shrapnel from a building going right through my middle it exactly where the birthmark is. And after that happened, some triangle, like freckles in the shape of a triangle, an upside down triangle appeared on my birthmark, which represents water. I thought that was weird. That's something they kinda do is like, leave, they'll leave like freckles in the shapes of like constellations and things on my body as I integrate more parts of myself. It's like, like a star map. So the, the, the marks on our bodies are actually maps of our soul blueprint.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

I've got a couple of birthmarks and, one right,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Oh.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

right behind on the, on my back, the left, left center of my rib cage, so like right here on the, on my back and yeah, through some of the exploration I've done in past lives, it's like, oh, that right behind my heart, that was a stab wound.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Oh

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

So I, I'm, I'm pretty aware of I the fact that birthmarks and these di different kinds of markings that, that people have on their bodies are. Nine or almost entirely a result from some sort of past life trauma. And I've got, I've got one on my leg too, but I, I haven't, I haven't really felt the need to explore that, but I'm, there's something there.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

I'm curious about the, the soul retrieval,'cause you brought that up a couple times and, a past life regression that doesn't necessarily involve soul retrieval. So when you talk about soul retrieval, uh, what exactly do you mean by that? And, and what can that look like? And, and just elaborate a little bit more about your work with that.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

So I don't necessarily do past life regression like other people do. I have kind of created my own technique that just, it just intuitively unfolded that way. And what I will do is during a regression, after they experience the trauma or whatever their, you know, it could be their death or some kind of event that really, you know, hurt their soul, I will then have, wash away the memory. And I will have, I will have them remember it in a different way. So I will recreate the imagery, but I will, you know, if it could, maybe it's a past life where their lover, you know, killed them or something. And this lifetime I could make it to where their lover didn't kill them and they grew happy and old together. And you know, they died together an old age and she died with a happy heart. So even though it didn't happen that way, I'm rewriting the timelines with new imagery and new memories, which removes the pain and the trauma that is associated with that memory. And then I will have that healed part of them in the memory where they're not hurting anymore. And the, and it was rewritten and I will imagine it go them going into a ball of light and going into the person and integrating them into their soul, which is helping heel the fractured part. Because when we go through trauma. It does, it creates soul fracturing, meaning, uh, bits of us, bits of our soul are stuck in that timeline, that trauma, that memory because something happened and we couldn't let go of it. And not every memory is going to do that. Not every lifetime is going to fracture your soul. It just depends on what happened. Some things are, you know, really, really hard to, to live through. And then they integrate it back into them and it kind of, it, I mean, it does rewrite that trauma so they're no longer stuck to that reality. And, and then they can let go of it, and then they move on to the next piece. And whatever comes up the next session, it's always something different. Like, I've never had, I've never done that work, and someone said, oh, I still feel stuck there, or I still feel like this is bothering me. Like it works pretty instantly. It's not something you have to do multiple times.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

I find it fascinating because you've developed your own intuitive method of, of doing what I'll call parts work. And, but there, there are several different modalities that, that revolve around working with parts. NLP has some, has some parts work in it. There's the internal family systems has parts work, I believe that's what it's called. There are people who have come to the same conclusion and, you know, they, they have different names for it, but they're, you really look at the, their methodologies and how they talk about them and how they define them, the parts and how they work with reintegrating the parts, you know, there are some differences, but and large, the way that they're going about bringing this healing to the person through integration of these parts of their selves that are, that have somehow become separated from, you know, the, the wholeness of who they are. That there is a, a deep healing that comes from that and, and there are different ways and different modalities that have, have come to that same conclusion and do that same kind of work.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Yeah, I think it's something I feel like, so from my research, it's actually something Shamans did in ancient times. And so what I believe is that we're intuitively remembering those skills that we had from our past lives, that that's something that we did in. Because I really feel connected to indigenous culture, but I'm not, I have, I have very minimal indigenous blood, but I do have indigenous ancestors that visit me. So they do still care about me. And I feel I've, I have had memories of being an indigenous woman and I think that that, that is something that I did. I know that's something that I did in the past. So I think that's why it came to me so easily is because it's just me remembering something that I already did, which is really cool to think about.'cause if I had never went to hypnotherapy college, this never would've happened. So like every step led me there and, but I really needed to work on myself first before I could, because this is intense work. And it is a lot on, on the practitioner too, I'm an empath. But even with extensive tech protection techniques for myself as an empath, you still do pick up some energy. And I'm a trans mutter. I'm an alchemizer. So that's something that I do. I transmute energy for people, for places, for the grid, for the planet, for the collective. That's why I'm in pain all the time. So I have to be like, it's like one session a day kind of work, not something I would wanna do. Two back to back sessions for sure.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

When I was facilitating psychedelic ceremonies, there's this kind of running joke amongst the, the group of facilitators. We, we called ourselves like the kidneys of humanity. we just on some level, yeah, you're right. There are practices you can do Energetic hygiene. Hygiene is super important. When you're in that role and you're working with people who are coming into a space that you are curating and creating for

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

like, yeah, there's like, you are responsible. We are all responsible for our, our own energies No matter how much, you know, how many practices you have, there is always going to be at least some shred of energy that, that you do take on. And that I believe that it's, on some level it's, I mean, you could look at it as burdensome and you could look at it as, as like just kind of taking one for the team or like, I, I wish I didn't have to to do this. My perspective of it is that when we take on somebody else's energy to either transmute or, alchemize in some way, that that is also alchemizing and transmuting something that is within us. So like we receive healing, by we, the person who is, who is taking on external energy. Like when you learn how to remove that and heal that, it's not. Uh, that external energy that you've taken on, but there is also an aspect of yourself that gets healed in some way. So, even though it was a lot of work and there, there were times where it was not fun and unpleasant. Uh, as you said, like sometimes physical aches and pains

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

feel familiar to me. I always try to look at it through the end lens of, okay, this, there's something for me to learn in this. I may not be consciously aware of what this is, but I, I trust that, that I am being healed in some way from this as well.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Yeah, that's a good way to look at it. And it is. I mean, it definitely is healing you too.'cause everybody you meet, everybody that comes into your life in some way, you're connected to them. We're all connected through the web. So there's somewhere something in that session that will definitely heal something in you too. I really like that. I think that's important to talk about too.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

I'm really curious about your perspective of our galactic or our, the history of humanity and this, I know this is potentially a, a very big topic and there are so many people out there and, and more and more people who are coming forward talking about their perspective on the, the evolution of humanity and, and how we came to be the way that we are in this situation on this planet. If we look at the current scientific paradigm. Things just don't really add up. Like there's, there's some unexplained phenomenon that is observable in humanity today. Like the doubling of our brain mass over a relatively short period of time. Some of the abnormal abnormalities with human chromosomes. And there are a lot of people out there now talking of about their beliefs and, and their perception of our past and our, our history and how humans as we know them and as we know ourselves to be today came to be. I, I am very curious about your perspective, given the fact that you've, received a lot of information and some level, I, I believe that we, you know, the way that we perceive information is a result of our own personal lived experiences and. That, that's gonna look different for everybody. But I, I'd love to hear maybe a, maybe a 30,000 foot view.'cause I know there's

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

There's a lot and the cold.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

a lot.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

The cool thing is though, everything I saw, there are other, there are sacred scribes who have recorded the exact information that the Elohim showed me. So I have verified, like the information they've showed me, there are other people who have received the same stuff. So that's kind of where I'm like, I'll have dreams and they tell me things and I wake up and Google it and there's this lady who's channeling the exact information from the same beings that I am. So they the alo him the Emerald order. So this is the Lyres, the Syrians, this is the founders of the universe and they created. The Orfe who were 12 strand angelic humans. There was a galactic battle in Lara. There's been many galactic battles and over time we ended up coming into what is called Tara, the planet Tara. That is the fifth dimensional aspect of earth. So over time we had to leave RA and we started migrating to other planets. So in Tara, that was angelic humanity. That was where we descended from Humans, descended from five D Tara. So Tara had a twin sister, binary planet called ott, who was a fifth dimensional aspect of earth in an in a binary universal system. So not in the same solar system, but they're twins energetically in another universe. I know this is kind of a lot. Okay. So Tama is actually the gatekeeper of the 10th Stargate in Sumaria, which is now Iraq. So there's been a battle going on for that Stargate for a very long time. She was actually the gatekeeper of the guardian of Eden. She's the gatekeeper of the Christ Buddha avatar matrix into this solar system. So when she was destroyed in a galactic battle, we were no longer able to enter the solar system in from a higher dimension. So, and she was also, she's the feminine asked planetary logos of Earth. Okay. So, but they're twins. Tara and TMA are twins. They're different but similar. Okay. There was a galactic battle that occurred. Tara was destroyed. Tia Ma was destroyed when Tara was destroyed. They siphoned the, the bits of Tara and all the people who lived here who were fifth dimensional humans, who had what we would call superpowers. They were siphoned into a reversal phantom matrix system. And some parts of Tara and TMO came into the solar system, created the asteroid belt, and all of the planets that we know of today. That is how Earth became Earth. So Earth fell from Tara. So Earth humans are technically fallen angels if we want to be technical. And when Tia Mot was exploded. They siphoned her energy into a reversal system, and that created what we know as the omo. The omo is the wounded feminine archetype. They siphoned her energy into an underworld, phantom matrix, and used her energy to birth anti-life forms. So these are called the moon chain lineages. So this is, this is all connected to the moon and lunar fallen lunar energies. Okay? Ott was destroyed by, by Mar Duke, the son of Anky that he's, they were Anunnaki Anky and in lil are not good guys. Okay. So this began, this was the beginning of the destruction of the divine feminine and the solar queens, because Tia Mott was an aspect of the holy mother, Sophia. So this began the fall of the divine feminine and the inability for embodied divine feminine to incarnate in the solar system because everything was reversed on itself. So. Now we have Earth, and throughout time we've, they have tried to reopen the Stargates. Here we have 12 Stargates on Earth, actually, 13. The 13th is in the inner sun and the core of the earth. We have been trying to bring Christo's light, Christo's consciousness, which is from the founder races, the Lns, the Syrians. This is the threefold founder flame. These beings are connected to the mother arc, the father arc, the gold ray, the Blu-ray, the violet ray. So these are the founders of our universal matrix. So they ascent, Indigos and star seeds here to prac or to, it's, it's called the covenant of Palor. So we are actually recovering the lost souls of Tara, because the souls of Tara are strewn through this earth. They are inside people. They're inside the grids, they're inside the miasma of the earth. Yeah, they have been stuck in the grids. And then when you, when you take into account all the gnocide all of the wars that have happened and the lay lines that was strategically placed to block the grids so that the star gates cannot be activated. So there are the Indigos and the star seeds who are carrying the Emerald Covenant. They are carrying the threefold founder flame within them, the 12 strand or DNA blueprint, the original angelic blueprint. We are the ones that are hold the record keepers and holding the light into the grids. We are pulling, so source light in these, the full, the threefold founder flame, which is the mother, the father, the holy child that is the Trinity, not. Father, son, holy Spirit. So we're anchoring the that threefold founder flame and we are actually reigniting the architecture of the earth. We are helping the earth ascend by being the living blueprint of Christo Sophia and doing grid work and just being ourselves and just doing what we came here to do and being embodied in our truth. Some people are actively doing grid work. Some I have done that myself. I've remote viewed and done grid work before, but every indigo and star seed has their different purpose here. They are holding a different frequency or we're all, we're all from the same source, but we all came here to work on different parts. So my, that is what they showed me. So essentially there's just been many galactic battles that have caused humanity to fall further and further and further that have created this phantom matrix. And those beings that created this phantom matrix are still in control of this planet today. They are the Anunnaki. They are the fallen beings. They are the negative alien agenda, the reptilians, the grays. There's a lot of them. There's fallen arcturians, there's negative Syrian Anunnaki beings. There's pian Anunnaki beings. A lot of them are hybridized to trick you. So that is who is in control of this planet. And then we have the Indigos and star seeds who incarnated here to hack the matrix. They have their little dark phantom hole and we are coming in as viruses and their matrix spreading the light and reawakening everyone here just by being ourselves. And when that, when all the Stargates are reopened, then people can truly begin to activate more DNA strands. That's essentially what we're doing is reactivating our angelic blueprint. Some people have four strands of DNA. Some people have. Six, some people have 12, some people even have 24. And that is what we are working towards. And when that happens and you activate your or FM blueprint, this is actually how angelic humans experience physical immortality. And we're able to trans locate themselves out of space and time across reality and rejoining the Interdimensional Free World Council, the Interdimensional Free World Council are the guardian beings who protect the multiverse and, and keep it in alignment with the law of one and Christo's consciousness. That is what I have been shown. Okay. Whew. That was a big stream of consciousness. Whew.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

Yeah. Yeah. There's uh, potentially a a lot there and I'll just be com completely like lot of that went over my head. Um,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Sorry.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

I'm just, yeah. I'm just kind of sharing kind of how, how that landed and, it, none of it, none of it feels wrong or, or incorrect or incomplete. And it's just like, the, the language that, that you're using, like other people might use, use different language to, explain the, the same sorts of things or the same sorts of archetypes or the same, the same sorts of systems. I think there's, I think that's one of the, one of the things that is potentially really confusing to people when they, hear something like what you just shared,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Yeah, that was definitely a, that was a download from a higher realm. That was not me consciously speaking. So that was like me not taking a breath and just like, whew. So I would try to explain it in different words. I don't even really remember what just came out. That was,

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

Yeah, it's, well, I think so. For,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

one more thing I have to say before you say anything else, the soul retrieval part. Okay. So the Lost Souls of Tara, but also Tia Ma and Tara, they were goddesses that were exploded. So all of their parts are strewn all over the place, and this has happened to many other beings where they were planetary. Conscious bodies that were exploded. So the soul retrieval goes just beyond human souls. We're actually retrieving parts of, of embodiments of the holy mother and holy Father that were destroyed in galactic battles. So that is why I feel like the soul retrieval, because there are bits of, of the m inside a lot of us. So I think that's something that's happening when I'm doing this work too, is I'm helping, helping them come back into wholeness. But it goes beyond this dimension and beyond this timeline into galactic battles that a lot of us were a part of and just don't remember. So it's just really cool how, because this, they just showed me this like a, I saw Tia ma, this giant dragon get exploded into pieces and I'm like, what is happening? And I, it was Mar Duke and he exploded her with a lightning bolt like Zeus. Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

I mean from my perspective, and I've listened to a lot of, a lot of people talk about our ancient history and their different theories and different perspectives on how we came to be, where we're at today, what's, what's happening on a multidimensional level. Like some of the things that you were, that you were talking about, there's potentially many different ways and different kinds of language that's used to,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Explain the same thing.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

The same, the same sorts of, of processes and on, you know, on different

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

Uh, like the, the first thing that kind of clicked was I've heard, Rudolph Steiner in his work, he didn't believe in and like that humans were made, made by extraterrestrials. His belief, and, and kind in paraphrasing this, was that like humans descended from, like, we materialized from a higher dimensional plane of Earth. So it's not like we were brought here, but we were, we just kind of materialized here. And that the ascension is, is US dematerializing again, back up to that higher, that higher octave or

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

That's that translocation that I was talking about.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

Yeah. So on a, a basic level of, of how he perceived, like how humanity became incarnate on earth and what you shared there. There's some overlap and, and I think that's to, to anybody who's listening and who has listened to a lot of this sort of material, it's like you notice like on one hand, like there's no way for me to, to confirm or deny I haven't had the, the download. So it's like I'm, I'm just listening as, just as an observer and just taking it in. And it's, it's interesting that there is overlap between what you just told me, which I've, I've heard aspects of that before. I've heard it explained in similar ways, but there, there is overlap in different systems, in different ways of

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

On some level, I feel like there is a lot of truth in that. Uh, on a, on a conscious like mind level, I'm just kind of drilling. I'm like, I kind of don't consciously understand like

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

What I just said. We'll have to, we should do another video where I explain all of that like more in depth because it's important for people to understand the threefold founder flame.'cause that is how we activate our Christo light body. That is how we activate the 12 D Kund Dore within ourselves. So that is the or angelic human blueprint that we are trying to ascend into that all the Indigos and star seeds hold the blueprint for. So we have the ability to ascend into something that is unfathomable for us. And that is, that's what's happening is this d we're upgrading our DNA and remembering that those flames within us, the Holy Trinity. So it is information that isn't as widely shared. It is something that I had never heard about until I started getting these visions. And then I found some, some teachers who do teach about these topics. And, um, one is her name's I, I Shyana Dean, and she writes all about the Emerald Covenant, all of the races that created humanity, where we came from, like all of this stuff. And then there's another one named Lisa Renee. Lisa Renee. I don't agree with everything she teaches, but not every teacher is gonna teach the things that, you know, you have to pick what resonates with you. She teaches that serpents are evil and all the lunar goddesses are evil. And I don't agree with that. I think that the, there are lunar goddesses that were chained to the moon and had to do things against their will. That's what I, that's it started the breeder program. Essentially when TMA was destroyed, it started the forced breeder program with divine feminines, which is, has been occurring for millennia. It's still occurring today to us until you wake up and you're able to break free from that. But it's, it's just, yeah, it's an important topic because it is affecting many people in many ways. There are many agendas occurring all around us that we aren't even aware of because you're asleep when it's happening. And it's, it's interesting. So there's a lot, but that stuff gets a little darker. It's a little darker, you know? And that's the more the, the side of the galactic battles and the warfare that's been happening. And those aren't things many people talk about either. They say. Oh, in the higher realms, wars never happen. Or after five D, there's no more war. That is not true. It's actually like 11, like after 11 D that's kind of when that stuff stops. There are beings between 3D and 11 D that that do want power and do wanna fight you. And you know, they're not all benevolent. There's just so much misconception about fifth dimensional energy and stuff. Like for us to gain that access to that dimension, we have to be pure and open up our hearts and be connected to serving. But when you're already that level of dimension, let's say, let's say you're a 10th dimensional being, one day you get a hair up your ass and you're like, you know what? I wanna overtake this planet. I'm gonna betray everyone. That's just what happened back then. PE beings would decide they wanted more power, so. That perfection or that perfect state that people think exists. It, it's, it's really only in 12 D and higher. And 12 D is where the God worlds begin. And that's where form doesn't even have a form anymore. They're just shape shifting sheets of light. They don't even have bodies. So there's just a lot of misconception on the, on TikTok.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

Well, yeah, I would say prob probably any,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Any channel. Yeah, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

like, I mean, even like the things like the, the, your Rancha book and

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Oh, I never read that. Uh.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

I mean, it's there, there's gonna be overlap with what you, what you just shared with the Rancha book. Not all of it, but there is some overlap there. And I'm definitely not a, an expert or scholar on the your rancha material in any way. But I'm, I'm familiar with it enough to, to be able to pick up on some f some similar threads, you know? And, and while, while there is potentially a lot of information that, that a very deep rabbit hole that people could, could go down, like my personal belief is that there are many, like, we're all on our own individual journeys. And that there, there are many ways to, to reach the top of the mountain. There's, there's many paths to the, to the top of the mountain and to, to get to that place where we become a whole and connected and unified with source. I think about, I I, I think about, about people like Jesus and, and different spiritual teachers. You know, their teachings, their teachings were, were remarkably simple. Like particularly Jesus and the

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

like love, love their neighbors. Love thyself, love thy God forgiven. You should be forgiven. if you really distill down what they were saying, was very, very

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

immediately actionable. Like, if you did those things, your life would change. If you start being, if you start loving all your neighbors and start living with a, a loving heart, like it, it, it'll change your life immediately. And so like, contrasting that to, of the information, this is just me personally, some of the really information dense teachings. I'm like, yes, there is something there. And, and I do believe that there are people who, whom really resonate with

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

and that that is a way for them to help, to expand and to, to continue on their journey and to. To, to progress. And, and I, I also think there, there's a subset of, souls and individuals, maybe like myself where simplicity and just like, maybe that stuff is, maybe that stuff is true. Maybe it's not. Do I, on one level, do I really care? Like if I, if I'm doing the, the things that are, that are improving my life,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

and I'm having a positive impact

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

that's why we've all, we've all came here to do something different.'Cause I came here to spread the history and the records and to let people know where we really came from. Because I see what you're, where you're coming from. But I also don't believe that buying into fake paradigms and false programming is gonna help us get there either because I know that there are soul traps that occur that can keep your soul in reincarnation loops. And so that's kind of where I'm coming at with it, is to help people. They don't have to believe me. They don't have to believe what I'm saying. My truth is my truth. But I know what the yellow him showed me, and I know. That it was for a reason and that they are prodding me to tell, to speak this truth and that the people who need to hear it will hear it. And the people who are connected to the covenant of Palor, to the fall of Tara, to the fall of tma, it does affect their lives now. It affected my life now in a very negative way. And if I hadn't learned this information, I would still not, I wouldn't be who I am right now. So for the women and the divine feminines who are trapped in that, that breeding program or their wombs are infiltrated, like there's a lot of dark energy that is occurring that if we're not aware of, it's hard to embody because you're in pain, because you're suffering, because you feel, you don't feel good enough. You have issues with self love. The people who are stuck in the darkest, deepest depths of hell. They need to understand why they are there and how it happened and how to reclaim their sovereignty. Because like for me, I have had a lifetime of trauma, like the most awful things, anything, any, anything that could happen to someone has happened to me. So I think I'm more speaking to those people who are going through that dark shit, who are being preyed upon by narcissists, who have been sexually assaulted, who are stuck in addiction, who are stuck in self-hatred, who are stuck in denial of their divine feminine power and reminding them who they are and why these things have happened because of who you are. They've happened because of who you are. And so that, that remembrance, that like, oh yeah, this is who the fuck I am. These things don't have to happen to me. I can rewrite my timeline. I can reclaim myself. I can say no more. And you're no longer a victim because our victim, we may be being victimized, but it is so simple for us to unplug from that. It's so simple because we're allowing those things to continue to happen. You aren't even aware that you allowed it. It's a, it's just this soul cycle, this, this cycle. A lot of women are stuck in where they're being preyed upon by someone. And this information just, it helped me reclaim myself and like those parts of myself, and I was able to finally break free from addiction, from narcissistic abuse, from s*cidal ideation. Like so many things I've healed within myself by learning this information because it just helped me see myself in a different light. You know what I mean? I don't know if that made sense.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

Yeah. A, a, Absolutely. Absolutely. And,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

it's more to like the wounded women, I guess, like, you know, and if it doesn't resonate. With, if it doesn't resonate, then it may not be a timeline you're associated with. You could have came from somewhere else, for real.'cause we all have different timelines that, different embodiments, different experiences. Not every person is going to be resonant with the same story, but I know the right people will hear it. And maybe those are the people I'm supposed to work with, you know?

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

absolutely. And and I, I appreciate you sharing and, and I, I believe that too. And, in, in large part, it comes down to, as you said, like your perception, like the, the victimhood

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

Things are gonna happen to us in our lives. Things are gonna happen, and they've happened there is, like in this physical life, I can't go back to being five years old and changing something that happened. But what I do have control over and what we all have control over in this moment is how we perceive the things that happened

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

and we have the ability to say either, oh, that broke me, or that, you know, that did X, y,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

to me. Or maybe on a deeper level I needed that to, to learn a specific lesson so that I could be stronger or have more knowledge or, or do any other number of things.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

maybe is, is it possible that on a deeper level, I. unconsciously, on a soul level that I agreed to have these, these experiences in my life and to, to go through these trials and challenges in order to be who I am today and, and make a positive impact on the world.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

either way you choose to look at it, that thing that happened when I was five years old, it happened, but, but the, the meaning that I, that I choose to assign to that is totally under my control. And, and this, and the same goes with with, with a lot of what you shared. And it's going, I'm gonna, I'm gonna sit with this for a while

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Yeah, because there, because I see what you're saying, but I also don't agree that could apply to exploding an entire planet of millions of beings. I don't think they agreed to that. That was like a galactic attack. And I don't think every soul that was there, like, I just feel like sometimes we, we do gaslight real situations that happen when we use that, that kind of phrasing because there actually has been like true attacks on beings and, and it's not something that was supposed to happen, like the fallen phantom matrix was not supposed to be here. But we also do create the things we experience as well. Like, and you can choose to continue those things to bother you in this reality. You can choose to allow those things. It's like you become aware of it and you're able to pull yourself out of it, is kind of what it is. But that doesn't mean I don't think everything is a soul contract. I don't, I don't think every single thing is a soul contract or every single thing is something we agreed to. I think it's more like 70%, 30%, and the other 30% are actual. There are galactic alliances of negative beings that are, that wanna harvest you at the same time. So we'll have to agree to disagree there because

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

Oh yeah. And, and I am, I, I totally understand. I, I, I've, I've put, I've created a. Content ar around that idea and put it out there. And I've, I've received yeah, pushback on it. And, and I, I totally respect everybody's beliefs and,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

you know, desire or, you know, everybody's beliefs. We're all entitled to, to believe and perceive the world and our reality way we want. And

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Yeah,

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

you know, that's, that's, that's totally cool. We're on, we're all on our own

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

I think some of us just do different work and we've seen different things.'cause I like as my, with my work as of grid working, I've seen the siphoning and the harvesting and the soles that are stuck in the grids and that's not something they agreed to. They didn't agree to being stuck and siphoned in the, in the grid. So I think there are some things we agree to and some things we don't agree to. Sometimes there are beings that just wanna harm you and sometimes it's a soul contract and something you subconsciously agreed to. I think it's kind of both. It depends on what is going on, but from what they have shown me, we've been being tracked and, and harvested and attacked for millions upon millions of years from galaxy to galaxy, from the 11th dimension down to this one. And that is something the guardians are trying to heal. Um, so yeah, I hope you'll look into it more and'cause this, it is a, it is a paradigm shift. Like, and I'm not trying to change your paradigm or anything, I just want people to be aware that there have been gal, there is galactic warfare that has occurred and there's been mass occurring of galactic angelic humans for a long time. And that is not a good thing. And it's, it's as above, so below the, the same harvesting that occurred then is, is occurring now in Gaza. It's occurring now in Ukraine. It's occurring now and all these different, you know, Sudan and it's, it's an energy siphoning that occurs and that is why g happens. So, yeah, I will, will hope people will look into like loose harvesting'cause it is a real thing. And there are some things we can't control. Like someone who's in Gaza, we can't tell them you're creating the situation for yourself. You allowed yourself to be victimized when their entire civilization is gen is being g*ocided. I don't think they agreed to that. I think they're being harvested. So there's just those two differing things, like there's an evil side and then there's you creating the own evil in your life. It's sometimes you, sometimes not. So that's how I feel.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

You shared the, the experiences that you've had and the, the information that you've been given and, and your perspective. I really appreciate your willingness to, to share something that I know a

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

One more thing. I gotta say one more thing.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

are potentially, potentially hanging onto and, and holding back on. So, so I, I respect that a lot.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

The other thing too, I do believe the bad things that happen to us, we can grow from. That's another thing. Even if I do believe sometimes there are negative nefarious, iconic, demonic entities that wanna harvest you. You can also choose to reprogram your life. Unplug from that, and you can learn a lesson from it. Learn better boundaries. Learn your power, because when I learned my sovereignty and my power, negative, iconic energy stopped messing with me. I am not gonna say that I've nev not had like any, any kind of negative energy since then, but it's about, been about six years since I've had like a truly like scary experience happen to me. And before that it was, since I was a small child, I would have negative entities. So I, it made me turn away from my powers for a long time because I thought everything was scary and that being a psychic was scary and that if I was a psychic it was just gonna attract scary things.'cause I didn't know what was happening. But I really do believe that every, like, all the bad things that have happened to me did get me to where I am today. And they have taught me lessons and I have grown and I am thankful for those things. But I also, there are some parts of history that I see differently. So that's just, it's kind of, I'm kind of in between, you know, like it just depends and it's all about what we grow, what we learn from what we go through, and how. I try not to look at myself as a victim, even though I'm talking about galactic history and soul siphoning and, you know, all of these things. They did happen. They, it did happen. And I can choose to unplug from that matrix. I can choose to leave this, that soul harvesting cycle, you, it's that simple. You can just be like, no more. I don't wanna do it anymore, and I'm done. And it stops. It's that simple. So it's like, it's like we forget that we have that power and then they program us and mind control us, and so we're subconsciously consenting to it. Does that make sense? We're subconsciously consenting to shit because we're. We're sick, we're we're full of antidepressants or we're overstimulated. We're all impoverished and our brains and our consciousness aren't functioning the way they should. So we, things are happening to us that we don't even say anything about.'cause people are so lost in their own little world. They're unaware of all the things that are going on. If people would just say, no, the world would be a different place. It's really that simple to just to stop these things. So I don't wanna put fear into people, I just want them to be aware of our history and like why the world is the way it is. But we do have power to say, no. We do have power to stop these things. We do have power to unplug from those agendas. It doesn't have to keep happening. It's all up to you in remembering who you are and, and saying, no. It's that freaking simple. I wish.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

And to that, the fact that we, we do have the power and we do have that ability to, that we do agree.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

Renee, thank you very much for, for sharing your story and for, for sharing so much, uh, so much information and, and

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

so I am on TikTok as the Galactic Ambassador, 3 6 9. And you guys can just message me there or you can send me an email.'cause right now my link tree is down'cause I've been in retirement. My email is renee, R-E-N-E-E Slay, SLAY four four at gmail. And just email me and we'll figure it out.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

I will leave links to those in the description below. Uh, thank you all for your time and yeah, we'll until next time, maybe we'll have to do this again, uh, sometime in the future. And, you know, and continue the conversation.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

if we do, we should definitely, I wanna talk about like all the galactic battles and like where they happen. I feel like I should just write a cosmic history book or something.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

Hey. Maybe May. Yeah, maybe that's, maybe that should be on your to-do list or,

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

My million things already there. Okay. Thank you.

ian-vogel_1_07-18-2025_123325:

You're welcome. All right. Take care everyone.

renee_1_07-18-2025_113303:

Bye.