Alternate Timelines with Ian Vogel

Decoding the Body Matrix | Reclaim Your Energy & Change Your Life w/ Ashlea Piefer

• Ian Vogel • Episode 23

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What if your body is more than biology? What if it’s a living Stargate—a technology that can tune reality, collapse timelines, and cleanse karmic patterns?

In this episode, I sit down with Ashlea Piefer, creator of The Body Matrix, to explore how our physical form is a divine instrument—and how tuning into the body's wisdom opens doorways to profound transformation.

We talk about entity attachments, dimensional intelligence, the connection between archetypes and biology, the power of presence, and how to collapse karma without reliving the pain.

Ashlea shares about her journey from spontaneous Kundalini activation to embodying cosmic frequencies—and how she's helping others do the same through the Body Matrix Collective.

If you’ve ever felt there’s something deeper going on with your health, your energy, or your spiritual journey, this one is for you.

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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:48 The Body Matrix
08:07 Ashlea's Awakening
14:16 The Body Matrix in Action
20:09 Energetic Archetypes
28:08 Energetic Entities
31:52 The Power of Awareness
37:04 Awareness and Body Connection
40:32 The Future of Healing
44:49 The Importance of Simplicity
48:45 Personal Empowerment
58:01 Final Thoughts & Contact Info

About the Guest:
Ashlea Piefer is the creator of The Body Matrix, a multidimensional modality designed to help people clear karmic residue, collapse outdated timelines, and fully embody their soul’s frequency. After a spontaneous Kundalini awakening in 2016, Ashlea began receiving guidance from non-physical intelligence and working with primordial sound fields. 

Her approach blends energy mastery, intuitive insight, and practical embodiment—teaching others how to use the body as a tuning instrument for reality. Through her classes and sessions, she empowers people to reclaim their spiritual sovereignty and live in alignment with their highest timeline.

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Hey, I’m Ian Vogel—host of Alternate Timelines. My journey started on a small farm in the midwest, where I always felt a little out of place. After years of skepticism and even a stint as an atheist, a near-death experience changed my perspective on everything. Since then, I’ve explored plant medicine, past life memories, and the mysteries of consciousness. Now, I’m sharing those experiences to help others navigate their own awakening. Through real stories, deep conversations, and wild explorations of the unknown, we’re building a community where it’s okay to question reality. You’re not alone in the unknown. 👽✨

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

our body is a vehicle of the soul. It's a technology. There's so much we can do with this, I knew I was preparing Ian. I didn't know what I was preparing for I had a spontaneous kundalini awakening, which took my body through a metamorphosis. There are other things. that Are using you to sustain themselves. And you think it's you. You think you're thinking, you think that that, dark thought was yours and you're giving yourself a hard time and your criticism. But what if it wasn't? Know that you can have a peaceful, loving, harmonious life. You can, you deserve it. You're worthy of it for being, just for being human. It is possible for you. The world is changing and we're on the front line.

What Is Up. Welcome to another episode of Alternate Timelines. I'm your host, Ian Vogel, and in today's episode I have the absolute pleasure of speaking with Ashlea Piefer. is a coach, a guide, and a meditation teacher. Who helps people awaken the technology of their soul with her body matrix system. I've personally sat in on some of the meditations that Ashlea facilitates for her Body Matrix Collective, and they're incredible. I was super excited to have her on. We talk a little bit about her history, how her awakening experience came to be, and we really get into the nuts and bolts of. How she weaves many different modalities into one unique offering that is incredibly potent and helps people in many different areas of their life. So I know you're gonna get a lot out of this. Ashlea is a wealth of knowledge. I'm super grateful for her. Thank you for listening, and if you get value from this podcast, make sure to, if you're on YouTube, subscribe or leave a review. Anything helps the podcast and it helps me reach more people. So thank you very much for your time and attention. Let's get into it.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

Ashlea, I've been looking forward to this conversation for a long time, and I've heard through the grapevine that you've been working on something

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

I'd love to hear more about it because we spoke several weeks ago and this thing was kind of building in the background I've. I've been really curious about what this project you've been working on is and how it applies to your students and the world in general. Uh, give me, gimme some details.

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Oh man, it's, this has been over a decade process of me going through significant awakenings and shifts in my consciousness to understand that our body is a vehicle of the soul. It's a technology. There's so much we can do with this, and that's why I created the body Matrix. So the body matrix is a Stargate. It's a collective way to meditate, which claims, commands and consecrates your body in service to your soul. So we're purging out negativity disease. We are collapsing timelines. We're we're eliminating what some people call generational curses through pure presence, awareness, cultivated in the body matrix classes. It's teaching you how to use your body as a tuning four curve, four reality, and you're moving beyond the logical mind. So this is a new human. We're not using old logic, which is built on what we've known up until now. It's limited. We're shifting authority to our heart. We're aging younger, we're feeling better, we have more energy. Manifestation is effortless. And it, it was when I fully surrendered to all these crazy experiences that I've had through this spiritual awakening process, which started in 2015, took it. It was galactic cosmic connection. And this is where we are now. I have this modality, I have this gift of sound frequencies to manipulate fields of, of information. And I'm supported. I'm supported by. Things that we cannot see by primordial fields of creation. We just had our second body matrix class, and previous to that, I was preparing, I was working a lot with raw. RAW is a primordial sound field of creation. They contributed to the construct of our universe. And I came in through the gold order. It's like a sound tone. My my soul light traveled this sound wave into this physical biology. And now here I am animated as a piece of source creation. And that sphere, that sphere of intelligence, the gold order, and the councils for humanity's freedom have supported me in doing this work. And it sounds so crazy to say this, but everywhere I look in my reality, there's a synchronicity, there's a sign. Here comes the goosebumps. You can't fight it, you can't deny it. And I've tried to talk myself out of it, like, oh, you're crazy. You know, and, and I even plan to get some brain scans, you know, when I'm going into these spaces and connecting with these, these other worldly beings just to prove to myself like, you're grounded. Your in reality. Like, let's bridge the gap. But this stuff is also real and it's been supporting me, and it's not just me. It's a whole collective, it's a whole field. It's a whole field of intelligence that when you participate in the body matrix, you lock into that, you consent to the clearing and the cleansing of your biology, of the informational codex, which create your body in space and time on the journey. I started going really into science, into physics. And many people say, oh, our physics is limited. It's, it's, it's not accurate. But that's what helped me. Walk that line of sanity as I'm getting these sparks of genius, these moments of connection and my logical mind is like, make it make sense. But it doesn't always make sense until it shows up in your reality and there it is. Does that make sense?

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

It doesn't make sense. And it, it does make sense because I think on a, a certain level, like once you get past the, the logical mind and you start to recognize that there are limitations to what logic can do and where logic can take you, I think you at some point run into a field where you experience a lot of paradox and paradox. It feels right, but it doesn't make logical

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

And, and I think a lot of people. In their growth journeys and their, their expansion, people bump up against that field of paradox and rather than just accept it and lean into it, they try to logic it and they try to figure it out, which is, which is something that, which is something that you, you, you really can't do. So I'm, I'm glad you brought that up

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

You can try.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

you can, you can try for a long time, and I think a lot of people do. I mean, I, I know I certainly tried for years to try to, to try to fit some of the experiences I was having into

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

boxes, trying to fit it, trying to fit it. And it wouldn't until I finally got to the point where I was like, you know what? I'm just gonna let go of this desire for things to make logical sense. then things started to happen and things started to align much more easily and and seamlessly. And it sounds like that's a place where you're at as well, and you're helping guide people in that. And, and I appreciate you sharing a, a little bit about the body matrix and the process that you're, you're developing and leading people through. So I'm, I, I'd love to unpack that a little bit more, but you know, you mentioned that you've, you started, or your awakening started back in 2015. I'd like to just a little bit of background to, to learn a bit more about how you went from 2015, having a, a cosmic awakening to, to the development of, of body matrix and, and how you got to be where you are today.

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yeah, so 2015 is when it started and it started with like just subtle nudges. It was gentle at the beginning. Um, I started becoming more interested in the occult and esoterics and some of the woo stuff. Um, I created a space in my home, like an office. Where I had like all my stuff set up and, you know, full transparency. I was interested in these things as a child, but then as an adult, it kind of went away. I matured, I focused on real world stuff and, um, it, it kind of dimmed. So 2015, something sparked and I started preparing. I knew I was preparing Ian. I didn't know what I was preparing for 2016, I had a spontaneous kundalini awakening, which took my body through a metamorphosis. They thought I had lupus. I broke out in this insane rash that was all over me. I looked like a dragon. I would flake everywhere. It was, it was pretty miserable to be honest. And that's when I started hearing things, seeing things, and connecting with other worldly intelligence, both man benevolent and benevolent. It was all there. It's like all of a sudden I was awake and here she is. And everyone could see me. I could see them. Um, it was challenging. It was really challenging. Uh, eventually I made my way through it. I, I detox. Detox was a huge part of this. Um, I had to take my body more alkaline. The guides that I was working with at the time are not the same guides that I have now. So the guides are in, I call them, they're frequency intelligence that exists beyond the veil. You can't always see them, but they show themselves in subtle ways in your structure of reality. And that has changed. So through this process, I've purified my mind. I've cleansed my body, I've ascended to higher levels. And, um, the ascension has been a wild ride. It's been a wild ride. And the one, the people that I'm, I call'em people, the. Beings that I work with now are not the same ones that I started with. It started subtle, it started gentle arcturians Ians, um, basic guides. These are, these are beings that would just show up. They've never actually been in a human form, but they would give you guidance and encouragement along that path. Now, it's completely different. I don't, they don't come in and tell me they request, they request to work with me because I'm so sovereign and tuned in to the God essence. And there's still challenges. I still experience challenges with some of these beings, especially in my city where there's a lot of AI intelligence. But the key is the body matrix. And the reason I teach this is because our minds can be easily manipulated, but when we're tuned in and tapped into the intelligence of the body of the heart, you're gonna be able to discern, you know, what is for you, what isn't for you, what. On the path and what is in the way. It's all about building that and you, you age slower, you feel better. I feel better than I did in my twenties. I used to have pretty bad scoliosis and I would get back pain all the time. I don't get that anymore, and I'm over a decade older, so make that make sense, you know?

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

Thank you for sharing, uh, a little bit about your story. And I resonate with that very much because it was about 2015 when I started having my awakening, and like your awakening was more attached to. connections

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

uh, with beings that were in interdimensional, extraterrestrial, whatever you want to call it. Or, or maybe it's a mixture of all of the above. awakening was more revolved around spontaneously remembering past life experiences, which, you mentioned that your, your experience was challenging in a lot of ways.

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

My mine was too, just trying to make sense of

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

and, and tr trying to fit these lived experiences that I was having into my old paradigm, which just did not work. I, I appreciate you sharing that, and I, I know a lot of people who are listening to this will resonate in, in one way or another. The fact that these, when you start to go through the awakening process, it's gonna look different for everybody. It may be connecting with extra terrestrials or disembodied beings. It may be having spontaneous remembrances or. being able to perceive things in your surroundings that you couldn't perceive just weeks or months or years before. And this is something that even though everybody's experience is different, many people who are on that path and who are going through an awakening have this really uncomfortable and challenging period, especially in the beginning and, and I always find it heartening and really inspirational when people are able to. Take what was once a situation that was challenging and find the silver lining in it and turning it and turn it into a, modality or a way of being that you're able to, uh, be more conscious, more aware, and more your authentic self. Like alchemizing those challenging experiences and turning them into something that you can share with the world and help guide other people on their paths and help other people who may be experiencing similar sorts of, uh, challenging situations. So the people who are coming into work with you in the Body Matrix classes, you said it's a collective. What sort of people, or what sort of experiences are the people who are drawn to the Body Matrix classes? What are they experiencing when, when you first connect with them?

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

It is kind of a plethora, like some people are, are like you, you know, they've gone through the integration of those, those past lives. And I wanna say something about that. The body matrix can make that easier.'cause I remember what that felt like. It was like chaos and I would watch myself, I, I disassociated while I was going through the actions, like the actual play out of the past life car, you know, the karma. And what if we could eradicate that? What if we could claim our body, you know, purify the gateways, the chakra centers, which spread us through space and time. That's the parallels, the past lives. And pull it into the now so that we're not having, we're not having to have those experiences to alchemize it. What if we could do that? And I think we can, with the body matrix, we can collapse it. We can eliminate the contracts Karma. Like we can do that through the power within us as divine creators. And I get people from all walks. We had our second class today, but I've been using this technique, this modality for years, and different people experience different things. A lot of my clients aren't as tuned in galactically as I am, but that helps me for my specific mission so that I can see everything they're connected to. They know everything they need to know. The key with the work that I teach them is to know thyself, to know your energetics, and to understand the foundations of the energies. So for example, I worked with someone for a year in that period of time. I think she's got like. Two or three promotions, healed things with the family, went from being, you know, someone who's hyperactive and triggered. And this is a professional person, not somebody in new age or spirituality, just a normal person, you know? And we're not always, we're not talking about like galactic and we're talking about like energy, frequency, vibration, how she's breaking down her reality and how these things are happening around her and how we can make that work in her favor. And then reclaiming the technology that is the body. Like when so and so triggers you, where do you feel it when you go to this place? Where do you feel it? Like how present are you with your body and space and time? Because there are intelligent frequencies everywhere that seek to actualize themselves. Some small, some small players. And then we got some big ones, some archetypes, some big players. And that's kind of where I'm at now. That's probably where you're at now. It's like. What used to define you and what used to give you meaning, your personality, who you thought you were, isn't necessarily who you are. And a lot of times that is a structure of intelligence itself. It's like an archetype that's then been positioned into the planetary body that then actualizes itself through us. But how is that serving humanity? You know, like some of the archetypes we have on this planet, especially in regards to like success and, and a and a masculine man. And a feminine woman, that stuff's so messed up. It's so distorted, but they're large. These are large monsters. They're large constructs of reality, and they actualize themselves through you, through your body matrix. You close those doors, those things don't happen in your life anymore. You release the connection, you remove your consent. It can't reach you. It takes, it's taken me getting to know all the deep, dark dirties to help people.'cause if I didn't know them, if I didn't see them, if I wasn't face-to-face with some of these larger archetypes, how would I help others? I have to know them as deeply as I know myself and I do.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

I think that's a really good point that you make there in understanding the, I'll say potentially challenging energies. You call it an entity, you could call it a, a thought form and reor these things that are tied into the structure of our culture and our society. These intangible energies that are, that are very big. We see them manifest in political systems and educational systems and some of the big issues that we're seeing with our food

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

And, and I, I'd, I'd like you to speak a little bit more to that because I, I think people get a sense that something isn't right and that we're in a time right now of, of a significant shift in energy. People are. Starting to, as we go through the awakening process, starting to recognize that hey, these things that are like manifest in the world around us, whether, whether it's a physical object or a a, a system that's being perpetuated unconsciously by the masses. Like there is something bigger, under some bigger energetic themes or engines that are, that are pushing this thing in the manifest. if you could share a little bit more about that and speak to, and speak to like, what, what you're seeing in the field and some of those systems that you see that are alive or, you know, being perpetuated in the world today and, and how that connects with things that are happening in a non-physical realm and the non-physical space around us.

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

So imagine this, every human being has a significant amount of electricity. There's a lot of power and energy like flowing through your body. That's that's your source seed. And there are things in between. The dimensions and science has quantified. We create an 11 dimensions. There's actually a lot more in this universe, but that's what we got right now. That's where we're at. So we create an 11 dimensions. A lot of those are within spectrums we cannot see, but there are intelligent structures there that seek to actualize themselves. Through the world of form. We contribute to the world of form, and we know that just through the basic observer experience. So participation is consent. The music we listen to. The TV we watch, the conversations we have the circles, we keep what you participate in, you consent to. And some people don't get that what they're participating in is actually consenting to the exact energetics. They seek to dissolve. But people don't know the game of energy. And there are oligarchs that control this planet. And then in between the dimensions, there are archetypes. They're intelligent and they know the game of energy. You know, they seek to sustain themselves and they do so through you, through your body matrix. So there's two areas that are really significant that I almost, that everybody has something going on that's your sexual organs. So your sexual organs, both men and women, those are areas of creation. That's where a lot of distortion resides. If you're, if you're not, um, operating those systems and peace, harmony, and ease. For example, women that have a lot of issues with their reproductive system. Have a lot of unease and discordance in their matrix. There's a field around your body called the morphogenetic field that holds the instruction set for how your body creates itself in space and time. Some of this is those layers of, you know, past lives, parallel lives, and some of it is just coded in a specific type of way to keep you connected to these archetypes and that area in women is a very big one. One thing I noticed is women who tend to do rituals and participate in things around the moon are very, have a, have a lot of problems there and it's because you continue to participate and consent to that. Um, it's kind of, there's a deep dive there, Ian, because it goes into the celestial bodies and what exists within the celestial bodies and the change that's happening here on this, in this universe, like the energies that are coming through. Um. Sorry, I'm going on a spiel. What was the question?

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

it.

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

What was the question? I,

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

the, we were,

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

oh, areas

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

was,

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

I remember. I remember.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

like yeah. How the, like the, the, the challenging energies are manifest in our, in our everyday world.

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

So, our sexual organs is one, and this is where you really wanna remain pure. Pure in your mind, pure in your thoughts, pure in your intentions, anytime you're working with those systems. So don't let your weird desires or perversions take you down a hole, because guess what? Now you're feeding an entity. And that energy is used to sustain fields of intelligence that surround the planet. So every single one of us are part of the problems here. We fuel it, whether we know it, don't know it, admit it, don't wanna admit it, it's happening. There are very few people that are fully sovereign and committed to heaven on earth. Know how to play the game that are actually doing the work. So the sexual organs is one. And then around the back of the neck. Back of the neck and in between the shoulder blades. When we are aware of ourselves in space and time, that area is often missed. So a lot of people get stuff and it comes in, for example, I've worked with a few people that have had addiction and they get these beings that come in through here and they make their way into the meridians and the neurological system, and now it's systemic. So it started with some thoughts and, and now they've participated in the addiction behavior, which feeds the entity that has infiltrated their body matrix. So your body is a whole system of creation that contributes to what we have externally. But there are other things. that Are using you to sustain themselves. And you think it's you. You think you're thinking, you think that that, you know, dark thought was yours and you're giving yourself a hard time and your criticism. But what if it wasn't? What if it wasn't? And what if through discipline, awareness, and commitment, you can actually clear that stuff outta your mind, outta your body. Live healthier, wealthier, have better relationships, have a better human experience. Like what if that was possible? Why not you? And those are two questions I really try to push with my clients. What if you could, why not you? Because so many people are struggling with that inner critic, and I call it the inner critic. But a lot of times what this is, is larger fields of intelligence that are locked into that person and using their life, their light force and their soul essence to sustain itself. There's a lot of that here. I know it sounds crazy. You know, the Matrix wasn't the only documentary. Have you seen Stranger Things?

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

I, I have not seen that. No.

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Well, that's what it looks like.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

S Stranger, stranger

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Stranger.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

is that a, a documentary in and of its own?

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Stranger Things. So, you know the Matrix, right? With Keanu Reeves. Stranger Things is Different. Stranger Things is about, um, this girl and she has,

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

Netflix

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

a Netflix thing and it,

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

Oh, okay.

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

it shows the dimensions and how she kind of is the bridge. But she also is aware of her energetics and what she can't. I mean, it's very much like that people like me who have their Claires activated, like they're going into places, they're seeing these entities, they're seeing these energies, and some of them are. Clearing'em out, purging'em out. They're not really meant to be here. I mean, that's arguable based on what lens you're looking through, but I know what I came to do and I'm not fighting anymore.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

Stranger Things is like an allegory similar to the Matrix. That's,

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

absolutely.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

a, a story and po and pointing out a part of our reality that a, in an entertaining story kind of a

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

I've seen'em, Ian, I've seen'em, I've seen the craziest things. I went to a concert and there was this octopus like being feeding on all these people under this tent. It wasn't necessarily evil, it just was. That's how it sustained itself. And I suspect that this is how some of the, um, divas and, you know, gods and beings and Orisha, like some of them were. Promoted and, um, and, and fed. They were, they were, they could feed them. And some of these beings are not of divine dispensation. Some of them are, some of'em aren't. But when you know yourself, when you're tuned in to your body matrix, so the essence of your soul, you're gonna be able to see what is and what, it's a whole different way of being human.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

You brought up something that was really interesting that the area

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

the neck and above the shoulders,

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

of God.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

what was that?

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

called the mouth of God. In esoterics terms, it's known as the golden chalice.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

Okay, well, so I'm just gonna share a quick little story. And I made a whole video about this on my YouTube channel, but back in maybe 2017, I was facilitating an ayahuasca ceremony in Joshua Tree, helping to facilitate it. And I walked outside of the space to use the restroom. I don't know, don't remember exactly what it was, but as I was walking back to the space, I felt something like, almost like a, a wet blanket was thrown over me from behind. And I just felt my energy just go, I'm just like, drop and I could feel pressure on the back of my neck. And I was just like, and it was so clear. I'm like, wasn't anything physical on me. I was like, is happening? Something just happened and don't know what it is. And so like the only thing I knew what to do, I went back to towards the ceremony space and I got the attention of one of the other facilitators and I said. I some tobacco, some macho, and meet me over there. Do not, I said, do not touch me under any circumstances. went kind of away from the space. I said, okay, just, just gimme a soap level, low tobacco smoke all over me. I, I've got a, a really great relationship with tobacco and it's always been a, a very cleansing and clearing agent for me. as the tobacco smoke was being blown on me, I felt this thing, this pressure, this weight lift off my shoulders. And the mental image that I got was like a praying mantis, like a, like an energetic theory, praying mantis that was flying away. was just like. What in the hell was that? so I, I asked the spirit of

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

was that all about?

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

she say?

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

she's like, well, this thing, it was a, like a, like an animal. And I, I've had many entity encounters and like parasitic entities and there were, there were times where they were sentient and I could communicate with them, but this one felt animalistic,

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

didn't have an intention to harm me. It was just like a, an energy

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yep.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

And it was, it, it identified a situation where it could potentially come and take advantage and harvest some people's energy. And the medicine told me, or the ayahuasca said, said it, said, well, this thing came into the space and I had to do something with it, so I just threw it on you because I figured,'cause I knew you'd be able to figure out how to deal with it. And I was like, okay, that was. was really strange. And later on I was talking to the, the head facilitator, I told him about this experience. He goes, oh yeah, the assemblage point. And he told, he goes into telling me this long story about how Carlos Castaneda, a lot of his teachings were really focused on, on, on that space behind the neck and the back of the shoulders saying that's where like, uh, disembodied

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

Your higher self. That's, that's the point for, for different energies to, to connect with you. And he's like, oh yeah, just the assemblage point. Like something attached to your assemblage point. I had never heard of that before. So it's really interesting that you, like, you confirmed that from a, an even different perspective.

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yeah, that's a very powerful point in the human body.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

And, and I think the another point that you, you helped make there was that these energies. Aren't necessarily, or these entities, these energies, these things that we interact with. While our experience of them may be challenging or not of a positive nature doesn't necessarily mean that they intend to do

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Mm-hmm.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

playing a role,

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

an archetypal role. Sometimes they're just, doing their thing and, on some level, we consent to interact with them and to, to participate in whatever they're doing until we gain the awareness that something is going on here and, and consciously, end that interaction or intentionally choose to not participate in that. I think that is a really important point that you make

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

And, and I, I'd love to hear more about your, your thoughts on. Participation and, and consent and how to identify and gain awareness around these subtle relationships that we have that we may not be consciously aware of.

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

it is tricky here because there's a lot of manipulation. Something can present, be presented to you, you know, at at face value. Like, it's this, it's this, this is what this is, but behind it, that's not what it is. That's, you know, like, so these big organizations, like Black Lives Matter, I've tuned into that is not what it presents itself to be. It's something else. So you have to recognize where you're giving your attention to. You know, a lot of people are really fueled up and focused on some of the political issues. Okay. Who are you? Where are you in life? Can you make an impact in this, in this realm? Or would your energy and efforts be better served elsewhere? Like, I see a lot of that because some of that stuff is, it's, it's like, so it have to be at a certain level to even make a difference. And what it does is it pulls people out of their, now out of, from creating their lives, curating their health, and it pulls them into a trap. It traps their consciousness. And now they're just stewing and they're upset, and they're creating this essence, this emotional energy. And then they're connecting with others that have the same emotional energy. And you think that's, you think that's gonna make a change? No, you're fueling the exact same energetics. So it's like, recognize how you feel in these spaces, in these places with these people. Know that you can have a peaceful, loving, harmonious life. You can, you deserve it. You're worthy of it for being, just for being human. It is possible for you. Some people are so darn addicted to the stress, to the chaos, to the drama. They don't know who they'd be without it. It's their whole defining factor of their persona. So you gotta ask yourself, who am I? What do I stand for? What do I want in life? Three simple questions and then see how your life shows that. Like is your life reflective of who you think you are, what you think you want, and where you think you're going. You can write it out and then you can look at your life. Okay, I want success, but at the same time, I'm not taking any actions. I'm not doing any work. I'm just, you know, thinking about it and hoping for it. You gotta take the action. You gotta do the work. And when it comes to energetics, it's simple, but it isn't. Because we're so up here, we, we overcomplicate things. You can really make it simple. It's like, is this unifying me, bringing me closer to the life I want for myself first and then the experience I want for the, for humanity? And you kind of just go from there like, what am I focusing on? Can I make an impact here? And keep it real with yourself. If you can't handle certain energies, certain situations, certain news. If it takes you down a, a, a, a downward spiral and it brings you into frustration and anger, all emotions can servee you until they don't. Um, you gotta have a good grip on yourself like. Is this going to, spark something in me that inspires me to take positive action? Or am I gonna be over here talking on the Twitter app about this for the next three weeks and taking no action, just stewing in the negativity? You know, like we just gotta, we gotta keep it real with ourselves. And when you recognize that those patterns in yourself, you make small shifts and changes, which build momentum and then create new patterns of behavior. So first and foremost, we just gotta, we have to keep it real with ourselves and not judge ourselves when we catch ourselves in those situations of not being who we know we can be.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

I, I love this end. this conversation, so much of what you're expressing, it feels like there's many different threads from different practices and different belief systems and different, uh, different teachings that are kind of intertwined into your own unique offering.

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Oh, you know it.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

I, I'm hearing a little, a little bits of different teachers and little different things that I've heard here and there and, and I really appreciate the way that you express it and are alchemizing it and turning it into you, your own thing and expressing it in your own way. And so I, I've been very curious about the, the body and the emotions. You mentioned that becoming aware of your emotions is crucial. So, you know, in the work that you do and the people that you work with, how, how do you see people. You know, when, when they come to you, what are they experiencing as far as how they're relating to their emotions and, and how do you them become more aware of their emotions and, and teach them about the, the importance of that?

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

So some people, they come in, they, they know how they feel, where they feel, and the only meaning a lot of these sensations in the body have, are the meaning we give to it. So that's also an opportunity to reframe the narrative of your story and to just get that energy, that stagnant energy outta the body. And then we have the other, and they don't feel anything yet. They can't feel it yet. Um, they're, they're very much here in the mind over conceptualizing, high level entrepreneurs who've been able to figure everything out certain way, using this for the longest time, that ain't working anymore because the energies are changing. So like, what do I do? I need to level up. I don't, you know, I don't know who I am. This isn't working anymore. We need to find your brilliance and your genius, and we need to have you stop seeking everything external and learn how to tune in. Learn how to tune in to what's in there, and it is possible. It starts with you present in space and time. Simple. There's three systems, the bones, the soft tissue, and the subtle sphere of energy around you. Super simple. Everyone can become aware of their bones, so how your bones are positioned in space and time. We're sitting and now I'm aware of my bones, now I'm aware of my soft tissue, and then the subtle sphere of energy around me. Now we're starting to tune it to know ourselves and just that tiny little practice is gonna bring you more deeply into your body, into this vehicle, this soul that builds. And then someone triggers you and you're like, oh man, I felt that here. I felt that in my throat. Okay, L, let me not avoid it. If I have the time, let me sit with this. What do I need to know about this? Or what do I need? Just need to let it. Move through me.'cause the human body is a vehicle of alchemy. And that energy, you know, wants to express itself some way somehow. So, you know, you're with yourself, you're with your body as a vehicle, not defined by it, not even defined by your persona, your personality, but the observer, like, and where are they avoiding the feeling, avoiding the stillness, avoiding being with themselves. Because what they carry is so heavy and, and there's a lot of that. People are carrying shame, fear, like, this stuff is heavy. It's in your body, it's the tension in your shoulders, it's the lock that you have here. It's, you know, the digestion issues that you have. It's the lack of intimacy with your partner. Like it's all energetic. And by knowing your body, you can reconcile a lot of these issues we have in our lives. Did that answer the question? I get so excited talking to you. I feel like I just kind of go

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

Yeah.

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

my little rants.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

I go, go, go wherever you wanna go. And I guess that's my, that was my next question is like, what, what's exciting for you now, given the fact that you, you're starting to put this out and you're starting to, bring people into the Body Matrix collective on a larger level. I'm, I'm curious about how you perceive the changes that are happening. And I am, I'm pretty hesitant to, to ask about predictions or, or anything specific like that because I think we're, we're

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

own specific journey. at the same time, I think it, it is good and it can plant some seeds and give people a different perspective on. Where, you know, where somebody else or where other people might be headed. The, you know, the, the direction that their timeline is taking them. So I'm, I'm curious of where you see this potentially going and the, the kind of systems that are coming online and maybe the kind of systems that are fading away.

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Oh, and there's so much. There's so much coming online, new people, new modalities, new way, new ways of healing. This is, this is energy, frequency and vibration. And frequency is the medicine. Frequency is the medicine. Energy is the currency. And we're gonna see, like everyone's so worried about this Epstein case. I am so ready for all this stuff to be eliminated. because there is no more hiding. Consciousness will not allow it. You're not gonna have to fight for that. It's going to bubble to the surface, like our own stuff. And then the collective. So my guidance, my mission, my purpose here is to help human beings recognize how they're creating themselves in space and time. And then let you know and teach you how to cultivate your connection with the divine. So that you can be in harmony and ease and effortlessness. Why not you? What if you could? I think you can. And with the body matrix, the more people we have in that collective that are captain, plugged in, tuned in to where they are in space and time, like they can feel their body, they're aware of the front, the back, the left, the right, the top, the bottom. The more people we have claiming and commanding who they are, how they are in space and time, the faster we reach that point of no return. Where humanity is aware of its interconnectedness with all things, and then we have, um, contact, we become part of the. Light family like that is outside of this galaxy. Like there are other beings, like, I mean, the information's out there if you dig deep enough, humanity's not ready because so much of humanity is still feeding into these archetypes that sustain you, and they're so deeply embedded in your systems that if that contact happened, you would probably be so scared and freaked out and destroy yourselves, like humanity will probably destroy itself. But it's happening really, really fast. A year ago I was having different conversations with the same people. They don't have the same prejudice, they don't have the same judgment, they don't have the same resistance to this information to, to the energy. It's the energetics. It's not even what I'm saying. I could be sitting next to somebody and just, they would just be completely agitated with me. I'm not saying anything, I just am. It's because of the frequency. It's because of what we're plugged into. So as each one of you. Plugs yourself in to the divine and the highest angles of consciousness that you are able to physically embody at this time, which is what happens in the body matrix. You're gonna tune into the highest angles of consciousness that your physical body can, can hold, and you're gonna hold that and that's gonna become a new point of attraction for you. And as that light comes in, the other stuff burns off. It dissolves. There's a new code, a new instruction set for how you create and render yourself in space and time. It's beyond the traps of consciousness. It's beyond the karma. It's beyond the generational curses, because half of that stuff is crap anyways. And it was just archetypes that was stealing your life and light force. The world is changing and we're on the front line.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

One thing I really, something that just clicked for me, I just recognize that, you know, what you're talking about is very basic in, in a lot of ways the. Being aware of your body and

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

This is the essence of meditation and, and there's many different ways to do this. Simple breath awareness, different meditative techniques. But I think the things that you are connecting and what you're communicating is that the, more you do these simple practices, more you're able to access the, like, the profound understandings of who you really are and who we are in context and in relationship to bigger energies and extraterrestrials and, you know, other dimensional entities and beings. So, I like the, the way that I am, I'm perceiving this, is that you are encouraging people to do these practices, but you're also linking it with the understanding that. Hey, if you do this, these relatively simple practices consistently, and with the right focus and the right intention, you can access and really broaden your awareness and perspective and your consciousness. It's not necessarily hard. It's not necessarily you don't have to learn these really arduous modalities or do this really difficult, challenging pilgrimage or this or that. It's like, no, it's, you have everything that you need inside of you. You can connect directly to it, and you're providing people with a, with like a game plan and some support and community and maybe accountability when it comes to helping them see like, oh, yeah, I, I, I can do that. And maybe it's not as hard as I was told that it was. And the payoff for me doing this, these simple practices and being disciplined and self-aware is something potentially really profound. Is, is that. Does that resonate with

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yeah, that resonates. The payoff is you live your own life. You're no longer the product of your environment, of your upbringing, of, you know, manipulation within the quantum field. Like you can see right through it. You can recognize the energetics you've built and tuned your body to the angle of your soul. That's what, that's what it's about.'cause the human body's holographic by nature. And when I was mentioning or earlier about, you know, certain areas like the organs, like all of that stuff carries energy. Unfortunately, a lot of us can't see what's connected and locked in to your human body and, and creating. Dissonance and chaos within your field, bringing your systems outta harmony. So these simple practices, one, help you become a, a better human. You become younger, you feel better, you know, healthier. Um, two, your intuitive faculties increase. They're gonna increase and maximize. Like you're gonna, you're gonna feel more than you ever have. And three, you make an impact just through your business, by new earth, a new human being comes through you through this practice. So, I mean, it's, everyone should be doing it. Every single person should be doing this. And I wish I knew this a decade ago, I could have saved myself a lot of pain, a lot of trauma. But that's not what was meant to happen. I needed to go through that. I needed to know what existed and what was here so I could help others navigate. And don't discount your humanness. Like the body Matrix is about you claiming and commanding your humanity, not giving away this body for something to channel through you. That's not what it's about. You are the channel. You are a direct extension of source. And when you get clean enough and clear enough in your systems, everything aligns with that. And you're basically a walking, a walking power source like you're, you are sourcing your reality, and that's a phenomenal place to be.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

I so love the fact that you. Connect the practice with bringing in the new Earth. I think a lot of the stuff that I'm seeing now and just lot of the teachings and a lot of the material channelings things that are out there, it's information, it's it's details, it's data, but quite often there's not a connection to a, a practice. And from my perspective, the only way that the new earth becomes manifest is through some sort of action, some sort of practice in our everyday

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

That's right.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

And, and, and the fact that you're, you're, you're making that connection and it's not just a, a thought based process or something that's cerebral. It's like, okay, well what, what can you do in your everyday life? that is the interface between your spirit and. And the, the world is your body. So the, and any change that happens in the external world that your spirit wants to facilitate, has to be done through your body. And is the fact that you've got a, like a comprehensive system and, and that the focus is on becoming aware of the body and utilizing that in, in such a way where you're able to make those tangible changes not only for your own life and for the world more broadly. Because we all are connected and we all are part of the, the human experience. We, we all have our parts to play and I, I, I love the focus on the, the simplicity of it and the fact that is required to, the ch the changes that we want in our life or to, to become the, the more actualized, authentic version of ourself. It requires more than just learning and conceptualizing things. You have to do something.

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

I love everything you just said. And honestly, Ian, there's too much information out there. There's too much information out there. Peoples take in too much information and just regurgitate the same crap. Now I wanna know, what do you got? Like, where's your information? Are you tuned in, tapped and turned on to your genius, to your brilliance, where you can bring through some stuff? Because that's what we do in the Body Matrix. So we meditate, we get the, I get the space open, everybody gets tuned in, and then we allow for, you know, short shares of genius and brilliance. That's how it should be. Like every single person has something to offer. Just how do you tune into that? Unfortunately, we're in the age of information and everybody's drunk on info, which has no, there's like, no goodness to it. It's just like a bunch of information. There's like no meat on it. Like, what are you gonna do with that? Just, I'm just gonna go over there and regurgitate it again. You know? But when you, when you command and claim your humanity, now you're on the, now you're on the board. Most people aren't even on the board. They're not even on the board playing this game. They're out there complaining about Sally and Joe and them, and they, and everyone's got taken my power away. Okay, well, what are you doing? Are you sitting with yourself? Are you aware of your body? Are you claiming your humanity? That's where it's at. New Earth comes through us and I wanna know what every single person has. Like you got a piece of genius, you got a piece of brilliance, like what's gonna come through? And it will, when it's meant to, if you're open and you're willing. So

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

I, and I think, oh, I, and I think that aspect of pointing out that everybody has their own unique way to participate and their own special gifts to. Give to, to themselves and to the collective. is something that's for me, has been really percolating over the last couple days. As you know, I'm a, a homesteader

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

I got a massive garden and in animals and all kinds of stuff going on. And really for the last 10 years I spent a lot of time in deep spiritual practices, different kinds, like going way far out, a lot of time in plant medicine, a lot of time in past lives. And it was, it was like I was trying to go out to the edge as far as I possibly could. And it's, it's just starting to make sense to me now. And I'm starting to realize like, no, the most, the most fulfilled and the biggest impact that I feel like I can have when is not how far out I can go. It's like how. Far, how, how much can I be right here right

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

Like putting, and, and I, and, and I'm able to quantify this by into my own sense of wellbeing. And, and, and that's kind of the, the kicker. And it's, it's interesting that, that you, that you talk about tuning into yourself.'cause I'm noticing now I'm like, I just feel pretty, you know,

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

might not feel good all the time, but I feel peaceful. Like even if things are challenging, it's like I, I know I'm gonna get through it and just like a sense of peace and, and overall wellbeing. And that hasn't. Been coming from the, the deep, crazy out-of-body experiences that comes from me spending time in, in silence in my garden and connecting with the plants and with the animals, and listening to the birds chirping and feeling how that, that impacts my, my being. Like, I just feel my spirit lift up when I hear like the birds chirping in the trees and I focus on that. you know, the, thing that I've, my, my life really changed when I intentionally decided to fo focus more of my energy on the things that I could control started diverting the energy from the, shiny object, the, the things that I need to learn, the whatever's going on in the news,

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

the Aubrey Marcus drama, all this stuff. It's like, that is also something that you. Been hinting at, like focusing on the things that you can control and how that improves your life. And I, and I really appreciate that perspective and it, it really feels like what you're doing is encompassing many different aspects of, of the things that I've personally experienced that have, I'll say, improved my overall wellbeing consistently.

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

And it will and it, and it's simple. It really is so simple. I teach a class once a week, whether you're adept at meditating or it's new to you, show up, participate, build on the practice. It's inevitable. If you do this, you're gonna become a more balanced, peaceful person.'cause you're participating in that structure that I'm cultivating and creating. It's inevitable. And it's not about, you know, anything outside of you. It's about tuning into what's inside of you. And everybody says that, but not very many people know how to do it. You know, you can. You and I have something in common. You're like, I, I was trying to go so far out, so far out. I feel I've done the same, but it's not like the far out. It's the deep in, the deep in so deep into the collective subconscious that I could offer the same compassion for the victim as I do the victimizer, because I recognize the interconnectedness and that both of them are playing a part based on the archetypes of reality and that perspective, becoming the witness of yourself, that's gonna free you from a lot. So in the body matrix, there's no judgment. You get to witness yourself for who you are, how you are, but you're not defined by it. You can choose to change and there's compassion and grace given there because a lot of times those behaviors and actions that you participated in or, or that are currently going on within you. Aren't necessarily product of, of your creation. They've been positioned in there, placed in there, imposed in there, forced into you. And where there's a will, there's a way. And if you have a will to get out of that negativity, to change your life, to, you know, stop your addictions and your perversions. Participate. Be with yourself. Be with yourself in love. It's like not love, like, oh, love. It's like love as in love. The essence of creation.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

I cannot think

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

I.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

better way to end this conversation, ending it on love, ending it on the highest point. This has been really illuminating and I'm, I'm super excited for you. This is like, I feel fired up and like, I, I'm looking forward to, to seeing more about the body matrix

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

should come to class. It's on Wednesdays at noon. Whenever you're free, come pop in. Great community.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

I, I'm gonna take you up

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Okay.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

that and, you know, as, as we wind this down, I, I'm gonna give you the floor to, to bring it home. Is there, how can people connect with you and, uh, learn more about the body matrix and, and participate and join the collective and, and, and do all the things and, and just. Be more embodied and, and start to put these different ideas and practices into, uh, in, into practice, in, in their lives and start to make these changes and, and live that way. I.

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yeah, I have a website, so it's my first and last name.com. There's free resources on my website. So if you go to my website and you click on resources, I have free resources. Master those resources that will change your life. And then when you're ready, you can come join the Body Matrix with me, which is the class I have on Wednesday. I also do, um, talking rooms on X. I just got on XI have some stuff on, I have Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn, find me anywhere. I host, um, mindfulness, wellness and Sound Baths in my city of Columbus, Ohio. And I'm just here to serve, honor my authenticity. When people ask me like, who are you? What do you do? And I'm just, well, I just am a servant of the divine here to be in my full authenticity and I want that for everybody else, and you can do it. If I can do it, coming from where I came from. You can do it. So come join me in the Body matrix. Visit my website for more information if you want a one-on-one session. Um, you can find all that information there.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

And I will link that in the show notes. So be, be sure to check out Ashlea's website and all of her resources. Thank you for, for creating them and, and sharing them and making them available for people that they can interact with on their, at their own time and at their own pace. I, I really appreciate that. And Ashlea, this has been very e exciting and illuminating. I feel very much lit up and this has been a, like a wonderful, fruitful and impactful conversation. I, I'm, I'm feeling it deep inside and I'm, struggling to find the word to articulate exactly how I'm feeling and I, I think that's a good thing. I mean, it's,

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

What's it feel like?

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

It feels like expansiveness, not exactly in the center of my chest, but, but like in betwe, but somewhere above my heart chakra and below my throat

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

That's your high heart. So that's your thymus. That's where you feel it. Yeah. Highly empathic people have that open.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

I feel, I feel like an outward sort of expansion from that space and a lightness between my

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yep.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

Uh, that's really interesting. And, and again, thank you very much

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Energy's currency. Thank you. Thank you. I've enjoyed our co-creation. I always enjoy my conversations with you because energy is currency and you're on that frequency. And now we come together, we co-create something. I hope everybody can feel it.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

Yes, and I'm, I'm sure people are feeling it. So, Ashlea, thank you again and have a feeling we're gonna be doing this again

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

in the future.

ashlea-piefer--she-her-_1_07-30-2025_140316:

Yeah.

ian-vogel_1_07-30-2025_130316:

uh, anybody who connected with this, stay tuned. Uh, there will probably be a part two, uh, hopefully in the not too distant future.