DEAN AND DAWES: Creepy Rick

Our guest is Tina

Hosted by: Jackie Dawes and Timothy “Dean” Gager

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Show notes

1)- One Year Anniversary of the show, and Episode 50

2) Flintstones Stuff

a) Happy Anniversary   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhMzeGZhxWk

b) Salem Cigarettes  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAExoSozc2c

3) Jackie’s Douchey Man Story – He will be listening because he listens to the show. 

4) Tim’s dead dog story, and Jackie threatens to leave the show

5) Listener Feedback

4) APP TIME-“Love Noise”

Jackie Dawes is a Teacher, writer, ADHD survivor, Imposter …somewhere Ms. Kursman is laughing hysterically.

Timothy “Dean” Gager has published 20 books of fiction and poetry, which includes his latest novel, The Shadows of the Seen, forthcoming with Pierian Springs Press in 2025. He hosted the successful Dire Literary Series in Cambridge, MA from 2001 to 2018, and started a weekly virtual series in 2020. He has had over 1000 works of fiction and poetry published, 18 nominations for the Pushcart Prize. His work also has been nominated twice for a Massachusetts Book Award, The Best of the Web, The Best Small Fictions Anthology and has been read on National Public Radio. 

 The 2 Deans produced by Timothy Gager

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Transcript

SPEAKER_05 0:00

Hey everyone, this is Brian O'Neill here in beautiful Florida Keys, and you're listening to the two Deans, Dating, Dread, and Disasters. What I really want to ask you all is when's the last time you had a date in this town?

SPEAKER_00 0:11

The calling podcast are the opinions and satire of Dean.

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And Dean. And maybe some truth.

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And in no way represents the opinions.

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And lack of satire.

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Of anyone else but ourselves.

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But the people might be true. The story you're about to hear is true. The names have been changed to protect the innocent.

SPEAKER_03 0:59

Whoa. Oh no, not again.

SPEAKER_05 1:03

So guess what this is?

SPEAKER_03 1:05

This is episode fifty.

SPEAKER_05 1:09

And we dropped the very first show before you were on it on April 1st, 2025. And this one's gonna drop on March, the last day of March. So this is our one year anniversary, too.

SPEAKER_03 1:22

Oh, happy anniversary. Happy anniversary. Another Fredson.

SPEAKER_05 1:27

Another Flintstone song.

SPEAKER_03 1:28

Yes, it is another Flintstone. Happy anniversary song.

SPEAKER_05 1:29

The Flintstone should sponsor us for$25 a month. They can do the commercial.

SPEAKER_03 1:34

I would love any Flintstone affiliation. That would be fun. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:38

We can maybe get a dating story. What do you think?

SPEAKER_03 1:45

Yo, Gabba Gabba's a great one.

SPEAKER_05 1:47

Um Gabba Gabba Hey. Now the Jetsons were basically just the Flintstones, had the same misogyny, but in the future.

SPEAKER_03 2:00

Yes. Yes and no. Well, I mean, it was the 50s, right? Wasn't it kind of like it was the 60s?

SPEAKER_05 2:06

It was the Flintstones.

SPEAKER_03 2:07

Wasn't the Flintstones were the 60s? Okay, it doesn't matter. It was still at a time when, yes, the world was a little different.

SPEAKER_05 2:15

You know, there's this great commercial for Salem cigarettes on YouTube, and it's with the Flintstones characters, and Fred and Barney are kind of like, fuck Betty and Wilma, and they hide behind their house and they smoke Salem cigarettes. It's the best commercial.

SPEAKER_03 2:29

That sounds awful.

SPEAKER_05 2:30

Oh, cartoon characters smoking Salems.

SPEAKER_03 2:33

Or is it Wilma and Betty? Wilma? Yeah, it's Wilma. That's a Wilma Mina. Is that short for Wilma Mina? Oh, all right. All right. I'm remembering these things.

SPEAKER_05 2:46

You added something to the show script. You've got a uh you've got a man story.

SPEAKER_03 2:50

Yeah, I was annoyed by a man this week. Yeah, an ex pissed me off. He did, he did, yeah. Uh huh.

SPEAKER_05 2:55

What did he do? An ex? An ex?

SPEAKER_03 2:57

Am I gonna put are we are we talking about that first? I thought we had other things. Am I gonna go?

SPEAKER_05 3:00

Oh no, you know, we're gonna we're gonna go right to you.

SPEAKER_03 3:03

Go right to my story.

SPEAKER_05 3:04

Because yours make me uncomfortable, so I'm gonna make you uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_03 3:07

So you can make me uncomfortable. So um, it's interesting because I think this connects to some listener feedback later on. But I I have an ex who I've been on the show. I think one of my very first times I visited the show, I was a guest talking about this guy. He took me on a sailboat. He was the first guy.

SPEAKER_05 3:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:25

He's the first guy I dated after the doctor had destroyed me. And this guy also happened to be a doctor and had been my sailboat's a move, by the way. Okay, well, yeah. Well, it was a joke because he said he I couldn't get an appointment on Wednesdays because that's when he goes sailing. And I was like, oh, it must be nice. I made a joke about it, and he said, You should join us. We're all, you know, blah, blah, blah, and we're going out, it'll be fun. And when I got there, the join us was just him and me. And I I was looking at the sailboat going, oh, okay. So I I went on the the the accidental sailboat date. And on that date, it was probably 2015. And the um the the the primaries, everything was still going on, and of course I'm I was pro Democratic because I'm a I'm a Democrat, and he had mentioned he was for uh the other candidate, which was Donald Trump, and I went, Trump, the other one. There was a there was a sorry, there were I don't think even he hadn't even been nominated, he wasn't even the Republican nominee yet, I think. And so he was really rooting for him, and I remember going, Why? That's this tell me why. I wanted to understand. And he said, We need someone like Donald Trump because poor people are not going to accept war without someone like him. They never accept war unless it's unfair and we only make money and become a richer country with war.

SPEAKER_05 4:49

So you're not gonna be able to do that. This is what he meant. Yeah, so you should have been really annoyed by all that.

SPEAKER_03 4:54

I already was like, okay, so this isn't gonna last long. But whatever. This is also the guy that at the end of the date told me he really, really liked me and that he would like to see me again, even though now when I met him, I was very thin.

SPEAKER_05 5:07

And that's good because you know what, he could take you sailing and you could disappear at the bottom of the ocean, never to be found again.

SPEAKER_03 5:13

I did go sailing.

SPEAKER_05 5:15

Oh, I did go sailing with this person, but that's when he told me that the the So there was a pause in the recording because uh there's a phone call kept going in there.

SPEAKER_03 5:26

Yeah, people wouldn't stop harassing you. So sorry.

SPEAKER_05 5:30

I don't know what you were I don't know what you were talking about.

SPEAKER_03 5:32

You you were I was in the middle of saying that the I had been brokenhearted by the first doctor who had also gotten me hooked on Xanax, which I didn't understand, but he was my doctor. I mean, whatever. I didn't know the the dangers of all these things because I was oblivious. And this doctor, who had been my next doctor, people are gonna say I'm the one with the problem now. I can see that.

SPEAKER_05 5:51

Uh the doctor thing.

SPEAKER_03 5:53

But he was not my when he asked me out, he was divorced, like all these things, it was fine, I thought. Um and I didn't actually know I wasn't on a date until I got to the sailboat, so that's unfortunate.

SPEAKER_05 6:03

Do you have health insurance now? Because that could be a whole dating app.

SPEAKER_03 6:06

Health insurance and I have a great doctor.

SPEAKER_05 6:08

And I that could be a dating app, the health insurance app.

SPEAKER_03 6:12

Anyhow, at the end of this sailboat extravaganza, and after telling me why he was going to root for this person, because they would that people would follow him for more. Yeah. Um, I had I was like, Oh, okay, well, thanks a lot, blah, blah, blah. And he said he was going again. I'm so sorry, I'm forgetting. I was hooked on Xanax when I got heartbroken by the doctor. I had to learn.

SPEAKER_05 6:35

They're like hooked on phonics, except Ha ha.

SPEAKER_03 6:38

I had to learn how to get off of it. And this doctor got me off by putting me on something called an SSRI, which you gain a lot of weight on. If you go on an SSRI, they will help save your life and they will help with with these things, but it will also, you'll gain weight on them.

SPEAKER_05 6:52

But you'll feel perfectly fine with the weight gain.

SPEAKER_03 6:54

Yes, because you won't care. You'll feel so good that you'll eat all the cake and the pie. So I had gained some weight back again, and I was like, shit. But I didn't think anything of it. I wasn't too worried about it. I was feeling better. And then, of course, this guy ends the the sailing thing by saying, I really want to see you again. I think that I can make this work for you and I. And I was like, Oh, that's nice. And he's like, You're a little bigger than a woman I'd normally date, but I'm gonna make an exception for you because you seem really great.

SPEAKER_05 7:26

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 7:27

And I I took in the line and went, oh my god, thank you so much for saying that. And uh, and he was like, Why? And you could feel him backpedaling. Because of course, only a person only says something like that to you to make you feel less than, so that you will somehow want to fix it, right? It's like that that who's that Dane guy, that comic.

SPEAKER_05 7:48

Oh uh Dane something. Yeah, he's a bad guy.

SPEAKER_03 7:51

I mean, I'm sorry, he is a bad guy. He back in the day of the 90s, he would teach guys how to make a woman feel like shit so she would date him.

SPEAKER_05 7:59

Guys still do that, by the way.

SPEAKER_03 8:00

Yeah, well, that was the kind of idea that he did, and I thanked him and said, Thank you so much for saying so, because if you had never said that, I might have wasted time actually giving you another, uh giving you a chance, and that would be so silly. And the thing is, you are because he was like, I'm dating lots of women now. He was like trying to make sure. I was like, You're going to date lots of women, I promise you. And you're gonna think of me. And I'm I'm never going to see you again. And through the years, he's reached out to me, he's asked me to go on dates, he's done all these things, and I've played nice with him, even though he just contacted you again, right? Always contacts me. And so then um asked me to do this, asked me to do that. When I broke up with my boyfriend last year, he asked me if I wanted to go down.

SPEAKER_05 8:38

You might just want to block him if he annoys you so much.

SPEAKER_03 8:41

Well, he did. I just played nice, it was just easier, but I don't know why. So he asked me, yeah, to go to South America sailing with him when I broke up with Rob, and it was just ridiculous, this person. And I ignored it. But then two weeks ago, I I've been posting about ADHD, that's my thing, right?

SPEAKER_05 8:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:58

He sends me a message going, that's not very good advice. This is what you should do. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. And again, I'm like, oh, thank you for reminding me of the kind of person you are. And then two days ago, I was posting about I post about politics on my Facebook and uh- You might need to just say that directly to him. I did this time because he literally started he yeah, he flipped out on me about politics and went into this huge rant about God bless Donald Trump and blah blah blah. And I don't trespass on friends who I know who are Republican and or vote in that direction. I don't trespass on them because I I feel like it's one of our rights in this country to be able to say what we think without having hate spewed on us. That's kind of part of it, right?

SPEAKER_05 9:43

Yeah, we should just say that. So I don't go on anyone else's. Yeah, listen to the show. I don't care.

SPEAKER_03 9:47

I don't I don't go on their sites to say anything mean about it. I have family members that are on that part of the spectrum of the political thing. So it is what it is. But he jumped on mine to say the most horrendous heinous things, and I know he listens to this. So when he listens to this, I want him to know that I do not like him, and I hope he never, ever, ever comes near me.

SPEAKER_05 10:09

And I have him. He's like, We shouldn't be the dick. We think he's the dick.

SPEAKER_03 10:13

He is a dick. He's a mean, mean guy, and I don't know why I never had the sense to say so all along.

SPEAKER_05 10:18

Look me up, buddy, send me an email.

SPEAKER_03 10:21

So mean! And again, saying how horrible I wasn't going to be able to do.

SPEAKER_05 10:25

I'm an internet hero.

SPEAKER_03 10:27

He's a bad guy. So bad. Anyhow, now what's your bad story? Don't you have a bad story?

SPEAKER_05 10:32

No, this isn't a bad story. I I this story all the time. You have a female story? Yeah, so uh I met a when I was in Philly, I met a college roommate, and there was this really sweet-looking woman, and uh sh someone she was carrying around these flowers, and she walked past me. They were purple and white roses, and I said, Oh, is it your birthday? And she said, No. She said, uh, um, my dog, I had to put my dog down today.

SPEAKER_04 10:58

Oh.

SPEAKER_05 10:59

And it was day, she was day drinking. It was like two in the afternoon. Well, I realized she was day drinking because um, so you know, I gave her the problem out of sympathy. Losing your pet's like losing part of your family. You know that.

SPEAKER_03 11:12

It is your family, yeah. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05 11:13

So I went to the waitress on my way out and I said, look, I said, don't tell this woman until after I leave I'm gonna I'm gonna pay this tab. How much is it?

SPEAKER_04 11:25

Oh right.

SPEAKER_05 11:26

Because I didn't want to be like, hey, like I need to make it a chest. Yeah, like, you know, like, hey, can I buy you a drink?

SPEAKER_03 11:33

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you just did a nice job.

SPEAKER_05 11:35

So I so I paid so I paid for her ten drinks and I walked out.

SPEAKER_03 11:40

That's very sweet. And and and was that this week you did this?

SPEAKER_05 11:44

That was, yeah, that was in in Philly. So I did that, and uh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:48

That is the sweetest story. I mean, it's also very sad. You know, my friend.

SPEAKER_05 11:52

Of course, secretly I was hoping, I mean, she knew that I was an author because of my books, and I I was secretly hoping she'd look me up and and like tell me how sweet I was, but no.

SPEAKER_03 12:01

You know, she maybe she'll find you. Maybe she'll hear us and go, I'm the woman with the purple flowers. I'm the woman with a dead dog. Oh, that you know, I had a friend who had to put her dog down last week, too. That's very sad. It's awful.

SPEAKER_05 12:14

Yeah, I mean, Dean and Daws will offer the put down your dog service. I mean, we can't do that.

SPEAKER_03 12:19

No, no, we do not.

SPEAKER_05 12:21

Wait, wait, look, we can pay for the show.

SPEAKER_03 12:23

No.

SPEAKER_05 12:26

We'll strangle your dog. Your dog is suffering.

SPEAKER_03 12:29

Now you've lost everybody we've ever had as a listener, including me. Don't ever say that.

SPEAKER_05 12:34

Your dog is suffering. No, well, okay, Tim.

SPEAKER_03 12:37

I'm literally hanging up. I'm gonna I'm gonna unzoom right now if you say another thing about an animal being hurt ever. Awful.

SPEAKER_05 12:46

Well, we're taking we're it's it's we're euthanizing. We're in in a gentle and loving way.

SPEAKER_03 12:50

That is not the suggestion. No, that's not what you said. You're awful.

SPEAKER_05 12:57

All right, so listener feedback.

SPEAKER_03 12:59

Yeah, we better move on. Go ahead. Oh, we got in a little political rant. You took a sweet story and killed it. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_05 13:04

So we got in a little political rant during app time uh last time. So they weren't critical of our political opinions. They just said you will lose listeners by being political. And you know what? That's fine.

SPEAKER_03 13:16

I think we're gonna have to say that that's silly, but yeah.

SPEAKER_05 13:21

Yeah, we don't polarize our listeners.

SPEAKER_03 13:23

We can't say we're you, it's not we're not including them. Anyone's welcome here, and if we lose some listeners because they don't like that, we don't like war or that's it.

SPEAKER_05 13:32

They can just send us listener feedback.

SPEAKER_03 13:34

Yeah, send us listener feedback. I we're not telling them they can't be here. That's true.

SPEAKER_05 13:38

We might lose listeners, but Steve from second grade, feedback on him, he did the the cougar dating story.

SPEAKER_03 13:46

Oh yes.

SPEAKER_05 13:48

And uh the comment was you know, cougars and talking about cougars is so year 2000.

SPEAKER_03 13:54

Well, I mean that's when his story was from, right? I mean, it was from the two years.

SPEAKER_05 14:00

And that is when his story was from.

SPEAKER_03 14:01

So he it was absolutely from 2000. You're allowed to come in and tell us your stories from any time.

SPEAKER_05 14:06

And and maybe it is so 2000, but they're no longer cougars. They're 80 by now.

SPEAKER_03 14:11

Yeah, that's true. And you know what? 80-year-old cougars need love too. Maybe we can find someone we should find some 80-year-olds to come on the show. And you know what?

SPEAKER_05 14:20

Like, if you're an 80-year-old cougar that's suffering for$50, we'll put you out of your misery.

SPEAKER_03 14:24

Oh, just stir, stringer, dumb. Stop talking. You cannot talk about these things at all. You don't even know when you cannot that's not funny. And by the way, you know, kudos to any 80-year-old cougar. Good for her.

SPEAKER_05 14:42

Yeah, that is good for her. And like, and like Steve's Steve from second grade is not getting any younger either.

SPEAKER_03 14:47

Yeah, but he's in love right now. He's got somebody, they're very cute.

SPEAKER_05 14:50

Oh, he is? She better not listen to the show.

SPEAKER_03 14:53

Well, it's from a hunt. His story was from when he was single. It's okay.

SPEAKER_05 14:59

Alright, so uh we're ready for our regular feature?

SPEAKER_03 15:02

Which one would that be? Would that be dun dun dun dun dun?

SPEAKER_05 15:06

That would be this one.

SPEAKER_03 15:18

Twist, twist.

SPEAKER_05 15:20

Now, if you want to make money, you can develop this app, but um, do you know how like dating apps Jackie seem to have like they're very specific. They're very specific things, and like, you know, there's like a ballet dancer, ballet dancer app or hockey player app or whatever. So this is along those lines.

SPEAKER_03 15:44

Alright.

SPEAKER_05 15:45

It's the app is called um love noises.

SPEAKER_00 15:50

Ew.

SPEAKER_05 15:52

So people by preference, you can record the sex noise that you make, and people by preference can choose the noises that they like. Have you ever been with anyone that has made certain noises in bed that are just like you just want them to stop making that noise?

SPEAKER_03 16:07

Yes, yes, that is true. I have had that happened where I'm like, okay, that's a little much. True. And then the whole baby talk guy thing, I'll never, I'll never get over that. I cannot.

SPEAKER_05 16:15

So now, I mean, people can lie about their noises like they lie about anything else on dating apps, but like uh they can say their noises and their preferences for noises, you can match people based on noises. It'll be like a big zoo animal app.

SPEAKER_03 16:29

So so we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna pick a noise, everyone's based on the way that they but that of course that means that sex is the only end game to the dating app. That's what you're kind of checking here, right?

SPEAKER_05 16:43

Can you show our listeners your noise uh right now, Jeff?

SPEAKER_03 16:45

Absolutely not. That is uh you have to earn that noise. People have to earn that noise. They don't get too much.

SPEAKER_05 16:51

So this one's this is mine.

SPEAKER_03 16:53

I don't think you should say you're not gonna get anything. It's the most noise. No, I do not think maybe somebody could make a lot of money off of it because it's funny and people would want to just I would go on the app just to listen to what people post.

SPEAKER_05 17:10

It's really not my noise, but like uh me and my friends.

SPEAKER_03 17:12

No, no, no. We won't know now. We're gonna all think you're that's your noise.

SPEAKER_05 17:16

Yeah, me and my friend Jeff, uh, he's got seasons of tickets to the Celtics, and the Celtics used to have this guy whose nickname was Moose, and we're trying to get everyone at the Boston Garden to go when he entered the game. It never caught on. It just was me and Jeff making that noise.

SPEAKER_03 17:31

Yeah, that sounds about right. Yeah, that does.

SPEAKER_05 17:34

Maybe the Celtics bench thought that we were having sex in the stands. Who knows?

SPEAKER_03 17:38

No, I think they thought it was a moose.

SPEAKER_05 17:39

It wasn't. So we've got a guest.

SPEAKER_03 17:46

I think we do. This is a surprise one.

SPEAKER_05 17:50

She is not anonymized at all.

SPEAKER_03 17:52

So uh not afraid, not afraid to stay.

SPEAKER_05 17:55

So uh why don't why isn't she uh come on in?

SPEAKER_03 17:58

Come on in, Tina! You're the next contestant on the price is right.

SPEAKER_05 18:03

Hi, Tina. How are you?

SPEAKER_03 18:06

Hi, Tina!

SPEAKER_02 18:07

Fine, thanks.

SPEAKER_05 18:10

So you wanna you wanna tell us a little bit about your disaster date?

SPEAKER_02 18:14

Yeah, okay. This is funny. This is back when I was like in high school. And um, that was one of the things where like I think actually I was going out with the guy because his best friend was going out with my best friend. But anyway, so he's like driving me home.

SPEAKER_05 18:28

That's oh yeah, that's a classic.

SPEAKER_02 18:29

That's a classic. I like it. Go ahead. Yeah, so um, I don't know, one night he's like driving me on the date, and then I think he's like driving me home, and he's like on his way home, but then he like passes by an old girlfriend's house, and then he gets all upset and he pulls over because he has to cry.

SPEAKER_05 18:46

Hold on, hold on. So let's slow this down a little. So he's passing an old girlfriend's house. It's sort of in a stalkerish way, or is it just a matter of fact, like, hey, we're on the way to Dairy Queen? Um, by the way, that's my ex-girlfriend's house.

SPEAKER_03 19:00

How did that sort of he pointed it out to you?

SPEAKER_02 19:04

Yeah, he did. You know, he's like, Oh, yeah, that's my ex-girlfriend's house. And then he starts crying, he pulls over because he can't drive and cry at the same time. He was crying. Yeah, yeah, it was a great first date. Oh my god. How long did they have they broken up?

SPEAKER_05 19:18

And did you tell your best friend that he was a crier?

SPEAKER_02 19:21

God, yeah, yeah. That was like our last date.

SPEAKER_05 19:24

I mean that first occasion. I mean, you saved yourself something that could have been a sex noise.

SPEAKER_03 19:31

True, that would have been awful. No, although maybe he did cry when he did have sex, and that's why they broke up.

SPEAKER_05 19:37

So you would you didn't feel like, oh, here's a sensitive guy, but then again, of course, crying over an ex in front of you is just bad form.

SPEAKER_02 19:46

I just noted me out. I was like, what is this dude's problem?

SPEAKER_03 19:49

You know, I mean, unless he was going for the friend zone for you and he wasn't a real date, I can't imagine what he was doing. Because if my if my best guy friend had to pull over and cry, he was so sad over his ex, I would go, aww. But if it was my date, I'd be like, um So how did that play out?

SPEAKER_05 20:07

Like you guys are driving the like, oh uh, by the way, this is my ex-girlfriend.

SPEAKER_02 20:13

Like pretty much that is how it went. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 20:17

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 20:18

Did he's a terrible date, Tino? But but it got better. I when I say that, I don't really mean better. So while we're while he's sitting there sobbing, got worse, yeah, yeah. So while we're sitting there sobbing, this guy, these guys like pull up behind us, right? These two guys, and they get out, pull them out of the car, and proceed to beat the shit out of them.

SPEAKER_03 20:41

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 20:42

So I don't know what's going on, right? So like I went to like the nearest house. I'm like banging on the door thinking maybe they could call police. Because I mean I'm 15, we don't have cell phones back then, you know.

SPEAKER_05 20:54

Did you consider did you consider knocking on the ex-girlfriend's house?

SPEAKER_02 21:00

I went to the closest house. That would have been great, though.

SPEAKER_03 21:03

Oh my gosh. Did you find out why it was happening?

SPEAKER_02 21:07

Actually, it turns out that he and his best friend had this grudge against the guys that pulled up behind us. And it was something about one car cut another car off, so they had this you know big, you know, grudge match against each other.

SPEAKER_03 21:21

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 21:22

Oh, ride.

SPEAKER_05 21:24

Is this it's like it's a delayed reaction to road rage?

SPEAKER_02 21:29

Rudge, yeah. They'd had this you know feud going on, you know.

SPEAKER_03 21:33

How bad did he get hurt?

SPEAKER_02 21:36

I think he got hurt that terribly bad when they left because nobody answered the door. So then when they left, I like walked over. And then you know what he did? He got all upset with me that I didn't stay and help defend him.

SPEAKER_03 21:47

You mean try to fight them off?

unknown 21:49

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 21:52

Yeah! Why didn't you, Tina? Why didn't you just sock him one?

SPEAKER_05 21:55

What a what a date. And like, you know what? So he just went from being From crying and being all weak and vulnerable to having the shit knocked out of them. That's not a good night.

SPEAKER_03 22:05

And then to be blaming it on somebody. Like you ran to go get help. What more did he want you to do? Did he have a beastball bat in the car he wanted you to start beating them with? I mean, come on. And it's not like he gave you that instruction. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 22:18

Exactly. He didn't say, you know, oh, by the way, the mag is in the side. Yeah, grab my gun. Get my gun.

SPEAKER_03 22:26

Oh no.

SPEAKER_05 22:27

What a so he's friends. He's the best friend of your best friend's boyfriend, which means you had to run into him again, possibly.

SPEAKER_02 22:37

God, yeah, yeah. Because that was the thing too is actually, um, my friend didn't drive, so a lot of times, like we'd want to see each other, so she would use him for a ride, and then he would hang out with us. But I like I said, I was not ever gonna go out with him again, you know.

SPEAKER_03 22:51

That poor I almost feel bad for him, but but it's so it's so strange.

SPEAKER_05 22:57

The thing is, if he was gotten if he would have gotten beaten up before he drove past the ex-girlfriend's house, he might have had a chance.

SPEAKER_03 23:07

You know, he's gonna feel so mortified about this whole experience, too. I hope he probably is like, God, I hope that girl forgot all about that. God he's not, and he's not gonna forget about it. He's gonna go, oh, she remembers.

SPEAKER_01 23:21

No. Creepy reg. That's what he used to call him beyond his back, creepy reg.

SPEAKER_05 23:26

So this is the the mean streets of Delaware, huh?

SPEAKER_03 23:31

Oh, Delaware! Where in Delaware are you from?

SPEAKER_02 23:35

Delaware. Which port? Oh, Newark. That's where I went to high school. Newark. Got it.

SPEAKER_05 23:42

So wow, so interesting. Maybe have you like looked him up at all and curiously, like checked his Facebook?

SPEAKER_02 23:50

Oh no. I think you should do that.

SPEAKER_05 23:51

I think you should do that. Does your best friend?

SPEAKER_02 23:53

But now you're now you're mentioning like, oh, maybe I could look him up. If I can remember his last name.

SPEAKER_05 23:58

I mean, we can kill Tom while you look him up.

SPEAKER_03 24:00

Well, no, what are best friends? Did your best friend did she end up with that guy? Did the best friend end up with his best friend?

SPEAKER_02 24:06

You know what? No, it didn't last. They broke up. Okay. Did he get beaten up? You know, I don't know. I'm sure those guys probably fought at some point. I don't know who won, you know.

SPEAKER_03 24:18

Fighting in the 80s and 90s.

SPEAKER_05 24:20

Did the the guy that was with your best friend after they broke up? Did he drive past your best friend's house and cry?

SPEAKER_03 24:25

Uh wonder.

SPEAKER_05 24:28

And they could compare notes.

SPEAKER_03 24:31

I mean, there's a lot of crying in your teen years over your exes. It's just not usually when you're on a date with somebody else. You don't do it when you're on the date. I mean, you've had I'm sure, Tim, you cried over a girl in your teen years. I cried over a boy. Yesterday, in fact. Exactly. There you go. Yesterday.

SPEAKER_05 24:48

Yesterday, in fact, I cried.

SPEAKER_03 24:49

But you didn't do it on a date. You didn't tell your date, hold on, let me pull over. I can't get a hold of myself.

SPEAKER_05 24:56

Yeah, not in front of anyone. Usually if I'm crying over a broken up relationship, I'm like by myself, and I'm kind of like, and then I'm done.

SPEAKER_03 25:05

He should be happy he wasn't beaten up until he's unconscious, really. I mean, there's these other pizzas layers to the story.

SPEAKER_05 25:11

So Yeah. Have a little gratitude.

SPEAKER_03 25:14

He should have been nice.

SPEAKER_02 25:15

I couldn't drive stick. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_03 25:18

How did you guys have to go?

SPEAKER_02 25:20

I don't know how I'd get home.

SPEAKER_03 25:22

Did he get it together?

SPEAKER_02 25:23

I mean, like, did he get to get it together and got me home?

SPEAKER_03 25:26

Did you guys ever I mean was that the beginning of the date or the end of the date?

SPEAKER_02 25:29

Like having Oh at the end of the date for sure. So you had already been like I don't even remember what we did before that, but we were going to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_03 25:36

So it was the end of the date. Oh no.

SPEAKER_02 25:40

If it wasn't at the end of the date, I'd say that would be the end of the question.

SPEAKER_05 25:43

What if so hey, let's how about we go bowling and then we'll swing by my ex-girlfriend's house?

SPEAKER_03 25:49

No, no, no. Wait, what if okay? So it's back in the 80s and 90s, and we really did make out in our cars. We did do that, right? Like you did pull over and park, quote unquote. We parked and we were making it. We parked. So what if he was using what if he's using the sadness of the girlfriend to pull over and go, I'm just so sad about it, and then he was trying and he was thinking he'd make a move on her. What do you think?

SPEAKER_02 26:13

That'd be a parking violation.

SPEAKER_03 26:16

Like he could have been doing it to be like, I'm just so sensitive right now. That's a terrible thing. I need you to it's not a it's worked for a lot of guys. Like, oh, I'm so sorry, she's so mean to you. That was so terrible what she did. That works for a lot of guys.

SPEAKER_02 26:29

I think it's worked for some men. In the 80s, we had a word for that. It was called pussy.

SPEAKER_05 26:35

There we go. It's true. But it could have been. I think in the 2020s we used that same word for that.

SPEAKER_04 26:44

Probably.

SPEAKER_01 26:45

We might.

SPEAKER_03 26:45

We might. I don't know. I feel like we're using that in a derogatory way somehow is not fair to women.

SPEAKER_02 26:52

Well, what my god, I just read a book about that. It's called word slot. Great book.

SPEAKER_03 26:57

Is it? See, because it shouldn't be pussy, should be a very good word. It should be for net, it should be for positive things. That's not weak. We like push a baby out of there. That's not a weak word. That should be thought of as like a strong life-building thing.

SPEAKER_05 27:13

Yeah, my best, my best friend, he's a pussy. It's great.

SPEAKER_03 27:17

No, I'm simply stating that you shouldn't be using the word to call a weak guy that you should be calling.

SPEAKER_05 27:23

I agree with that.

SPEAKER_03 27:24

We're gonna have to call him something else. That's all. That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05 27:28

Yeah, what can we call him? We can call him a little dick.

SPEAKER_03 27:31

I mean you can flash a penis. There you go. If you want to call somebody, like you don't have to, we don't have to call him a pussy. That's just not nice.

SPEAKER_05 27:39

Alright, so uh to finalize the segment, Tina. Do you want to answer the question?

SPEAKER_03 27:44

I think I like the words let promo.

SPEAKER_05 27:46

The question for our final segment, this is Jackie's segment.

SPEAKER_03 27:51

Oh, that's right. I forgot. We don't have a jingle yet. What do you feel was the takeaway from the date? When you left that date, what did you go? Okay. What was your what did you learn from the experience?

SPEAKER_02 28:07

Stop going out with Amy's um boyfriend or boyfriend's best friends.

SPEAKER_03 28:13

Gotta leave Amy's people alone. Yeah, that's good.

SPEAKER_02 28:15

Yeah, she would always push these guys off on me. And it's like I really wasn't interested to begin with, but especially at that one, I'm like, that's it. I am not taking your own guys.

SPEAKER_03 28:26

Isn't that awful when they just want you to be with someone that way they can have a double date and they kind of throw out?

SPEAKER_05 28:31

Yeah, find your own guys organically. Don't rely on anyone else to set you up. That's a good takeaway.

SPEAKER_03 28:36

I like that one.

SPEAKER_05 28:37

All right, thanks, Tina. Thank you so much. Thank you, Tina. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_03 28:42

Bye.

SPEAKER_05 28:42

Bye. Bye.

SPEAKER_03 28:44

I am on my high horse today.

SPEAKER_05 28:46

I told you that was a crazy story.

SPEAKER_03 28:47

Who do I think I am? It is a crazy story.

SPEAKER_05 28:49

It's a crazy story.

SPEAKER_03 28:51

It's a crazy story. I don't know who I think I am, though. I'm really I'm still so mad at that dumb doctor.

SPEAKER_05 28:56

Yeah, I mean, I God. I remember once in college. No, this is a story for another time.

SPEAKER_03 29:03

It's a story for another time.

SPEAKER_05 29:04

Because it wasn't even parking.

SPEAKER_03 29:06

Oh, parking was so fun. Making out with boys in cars. Aw, the 80s.

SPEAKER_05 29:11

So for old time's sake, has that happened at all recently?

SPEAKER_03 29:16

I well, with the other doctor. Yes, it did, actually. Yeah, no, we would we'd go parking a little bit in the very city.

SPEAKER_05 29:28

I mean, I'm 6'2, so like usually cars and that doesn't really work for me.

SPEAKER_03 29:33

He's 6'1. I think he wasn't short, but he had well.

SPEAKER_05 29:36

He was a doctor. He probably had a fancy big car.

SPEAKER_03 29:39

Uh, he had a tough car. Uh, I don't know. Anyhow, it doesn't matter. You can kiss and make out no matter how tall you are in a car. I mean, I just don't have you don't have to be a chance to do it. We're having sex in the car. We were like making it.

SPEAKER_05 29:53

Sounds like the name of a children's book. You can kiss them make out if you're tall in a car. We're like giraffe animals.

SPEAKER_03 30:00

I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_05 30:04

All right, so uh that's a wrap for our anniversary.

SPEAKER_03 30:08

Happy anniversary! Happy anniversary! You gotta sing the song.

SPEAKER_04 30:11

Happy anniversary anniversary.