DEAN AND DAWES: The Lost Weekend

Show notes

Guest: Jade Jesser

Hosted by: Jackie Dawes and Timothy Gager

1)     Jackie’s Tic Toc https://www.tiktok.com/@myfavoritepart1311 and

 Jade’s Website https://baelfirebooks.com/

2)     Creepy James Woods https://variety.com/2017/film/news/amber-tamblyn-james-woods-open-letter-1202557447/

3)     Embarrassing Date Goes Viral  in NY POST  

4)     Hook Up Stabbing https://www.youtube.com/shorts/GzbwVHfNwHY 

5)     Yelling at Brian O’Neil who is buying equipment

6)     Listener Feedback

 7)     App Time – REAL APP: Meet Up Dating, OUR FAKE ONE: 7 Hour Dating

Jackie Dawes is a Teacher, writer, ADHD survivor, Imposter …somewhere Ms. Kursman is laughing hysterically.

Timothy “Dean” Gager has published 20 books of fiction and poetry, which includes his latest novel, The Shadows of the Seen, forthcoming with Pierian Springs Press in 2025. He hosted the successful Dire Literary Series in Cambridge, MA from 2001 to 2018, and started a weekly virtual series in 2020. He has had over 1000 works of fiction and poetry published, 18 nominations for the Pushcart Prize. His work also has been nominated twice for a Massachusetts Book Award, The Best of the Web, The Best Small Fictions Anthology and has been read on National Public Radio. 

 The 2 Deans produced by Timothy Gager

Theme song and App Time Jingle written and performed by Delaware’s Aspartame Daddies

 The 2 Deans produced by The Oddball Foundation

Theme song and App Time Jingle written and performed by Delaware’s Aspartame Daddies

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Hey everyone, this is Brian O'Neill here in beautiful Florida Keys, and you're listening to the two Deans, Dating, Dread, and Disasters. What I really want to ask you all is when's the last time you had a date in this town?

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The polling podcast are the opinions and satire of Dean.

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And Dean. And maybe some truth.

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And in no way represents the opinions. And lack of satire of anyone else but ourselves.

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But the people might be true. The story you're about to hear is true. The names have been changed to protect the innocent.

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One, two, three, four.

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Hello, Jackie. How you doing?

SPEAKER_05 1:02

I'm doing fine. How are you, little Dean? Awake.

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I'm Big Dean.

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How are you? How are you, Big Dean?

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What's going on? Powerful, big and powerful. Almighty powerful Dean.

SPEAKER_05 1:16

Oh, good, great.

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Pay no attention to a guest.

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The man behind the curtain. So I take it you're you're good. You sound good and happy.

SPEAKER_03 1:25

I'm good. I've just been recording shit all day, so like I'm ready to get, you know, shot out of a cannon here and be like, Brah let's go.

SPEAKER_05 1:35

Okay, good.

SPEAKER_03 1:36

Alright. And we've got a guest.

SPEAKER_05 1:38

We do. We have a very interesting guest.

SPEAKER_03 1:41

We do. We got a guest, and the guest has a dog, and you have a dog. Your dog was sick, and that's not funny, but I'm just, you know, my heart goes out to you.

SPEAKER_05 1:48

Thanks. It's been a rough time, actually. Then that's been a rough time. Sick dogs are unacceptable.

SPEAKER_03 1:53

You know what though? It might be good for dating. Like if you don't, you gotta one, you gotta built-in excuse. And two, you've you can be like, come over and take care of my dog with me.

SPEAKER_05 2:03

Let somebody in my house already and meet my dog before I've even gone on a date with them.

SPEAKER_03 2:08

Well, meeting someone's dog is not like meeting their children, right? Because you go to their house and the dogs are jumping up on you. Now, if you go to your house with a woman with children, she's telling the kids like get out of sight, hide, get in the back.

SPEAKER_05 2:21

Oh. These are not nice exact dates that you're talking about. We do not have people in the old school.

SPEAKER_03 2:29

Old school first dates, you'd be like, ding-dong, I am here.

SPEAKER_05 2:33

Oh, you pick them up at the house, and you do get, you know, I guess. Yeah, it's not like I do remember my mom getting mad at me when someone would come to pick me up if they did not come to the door. I do remember that. But that was in the 80s.

SPEAKER_03 2:43

I would drive through your house then. I'd be like, you know, I'd be coming through your door.

SPEAKER_05 2:49

I think my mom would have scared you.

SPEAKER_03 2:51

Oh, we have some actually we have some listener feedback about your mom. We'll have to get to that later.

SPEAKER_05 2:55

Okay, that's great. I'm sure she'll be thrilled.

SPEAKER_03 2:58

Did she listen to the last episode when we talked about?

SPEAKER_05 3:00

She doesn't listen. She's so mad at us. She's like, that dirty man you work with. I am not a dirty man. Always talking about inappropriate stuff. And I said, Well, mom, it's a dating show, so a lot of the things.

SPEAKER_03 3:14

If we were appropriate, no one would listen. We're getting a lot of downloads.

SPEAKER_05 3:18

So we're getting a lot of downloads because we're inappropriate?

SPEAKER_03 3:21

Correct. Oh, be like, like if we were like Adam Carolla, be like, so tell us about the history of data. Fuck that guy.

SPEAKER_05 3:27

I think Adam Corolla does okay. I I don't think you should worry about that.

SPEAKER_03 3:31

I don't like his tweets, though. Fuck that guy.

SPEAKER_05 3:32

I'm just telling you, as a radio guy from their show in the 90s, they're doing he did just fine.

SPEAKER_03 3:39

I know, but they know that even though we have a guest, the title of this episode is gonna be Fuck Adam Carolla.

SPEAKER_05 3:44

Okay, make that's a good plan. And our guest is actually kind of like a like like a celebrity-ish kind of person.

SPEAKER_03 3:51

Does he know Adam Corolla? Well we'll have to answer.

SPEAKER_05 3:53

I've met Adam Carolla, but I had does he.

SPEAKER_03 3:55

Oh, I'm so sorry. Was he Dick?

SPEAKER_05 3:57

Uh no, they weren't mean to me. What was the name of their show? Modern Love or um They had a big him and this the sex guy, Dr. Drew, they had a a radio show about sex in the 90s. I can't remember the name of it. But they they did our morning show once.

SPEAKER_03 4:11

I've gotta get I've got a I've my friend Mary Lou Lourdes has this disaster story with.

SPEAKER_05 4:16

Did you forget the name of that story? Oh, he's an Adam Carolla disaster story?

SPEAKER_03 4:20

No, a Dr. Drew disaster story. I've gotta get her, I gotta get her to tell it because it's an amazing story.

SPEAKER_05 4:26

Especially I mean Adam Carolla now, didn't he turn into some political crazy groups?

SPEAKER_03 4:32

Yeah, he and uh I think he's he must be hanging out with uh with what's his name, Branch. Um the that British actor.

SPEAKER_05 4:42

Oh, a British actor.

SPEAKER_03 4:44

Brand Russell Brand.

SPEAKER_05 4:46

Oh, he's Adam Carolla and Russell Brand, he's like a he's not an actor. Russell Brand is a good thing.

SPEAKER_03 4:51

James Woods, they're all they're all in that club.

SPEAKER_05 4:53

I do love I'm sad about James Woods.

SPEAKER_03 4:57

I I think I think he has a head injury. I feel bad.

unknown 5:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 5:02

Not that we're saying if you have any political leanings, do you have a head injury? You're allowed to have a.

SPEAKER_03 5:06

So maybe James Woods was to come on there about his disaster dating with the underage girls. That was a disaster. That was a disaster for his career. Poor guy.

SPEAKER_05 5:16

Poor guy. No, no. We're not.

SPEAKER_03 5:18

No, I support the victims here. Like, you know, they're very open about what happened.

SPEAKER_05 5:22

I didn't even know the story about James Woods and what you're saying right now. I don't even know that story. That's sad, but um, I was thinking it was sad that he had So I'm gonna write a children's book.

SPEAKER_03 5:31

It won't be called James and the Giant Peach. It'll be called James and the Underage Girls. It'll be a bestseller.

SPEAKER_05 5:36

You see why my mom doesn't like you? You see that? You see these jokes? You see why she thinks you're bad?

SPEAKER_03 5:41

I think she can come on.

SPEAKER_05 5:43

My mom would destroy all of us.

SPEAKER_03 5:46

That'd be a great show. Does she still have an 18-inch waist?

SPEAKER_05 5:49

And oh, that's right. I gave you the picture of her.

SPEAKER_03 5:53

She Yeah, it's in the show notes.

SPEAKER_05 5:55

She's still adorable, but she is she doesn't look like she did in 1984. No. No, neither do we. Who are you talking about? I'm like, I like Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_03 6:05

Yeah. That's true. So uh there's some interesting things. I mean, we're this show's gonna air on June the 14th, but it is like right now, it's June the 4th, and there's some interesting things in the news that were sort of dating related.

SPEAKER_05 6:19

Okay, let's hear him.

SPEAKER_03 6:20

And the first one is a viral clip, and it's this guy in New York City. He's filming the end of this date. They're strangers to him, right? So they're they're at the door, and he's like filming this? He's in the he's like in a border, and he's he's being all like, he's being all like, yeah, look at this. Wow, all right, she's putting in the key code, right? And uh, she's putting in the key code. What's gonna happen on this date? And then he turns and he walks away, and he's like, oh, he spends $700 on dinner, he doesn't even get invited up, ah, and he's just totally like ragging on this on this guy. And and you know what, it went viral, but here's the deal, right? She did pull him in when he was leaving and gave him a kiss, and uh all of the comments on the video are basically saying that the guy that was filming, he was the douche.

SPEAKER_05 7:10

Well, yeah, if you're filming somebody else's date, unless it was a setup, unless people are doing this to get to go viral. But do you think it's you think this was real?

SPEAKER_03 7:19

Oh, it was real.

SPEAKER_05 7:20

Um so if I were on a date and some man was following behind filming me, I would turn around and go, hey, what is it?

SPEAKER_03 7:27

No, he wasn't following. I think he just was hanging out on the corner because it was across the street. It was New York City.

SPEAKER_05 7:33

Oh, I see. So he's doing and he's just giving the play-by-play to something he sees.

SPEAKER_03 7:38

I'll post the link in the show notes, but if you don't want to wait for that, just go to the New York Post and uh it's uh embarrassing dates goes viral as bystanders mock bachelor's rejection. That's the the head.

SPEAKER_05 7:51

How does he know that he spent $700 on the woman and then the woman It's just him being funny?

SPEAKER_03 7:55

And how does he know he's a bachelor? Maybe he's a married man.

SPEAKER_05 7:58

And maybe she just wasn't that maybe it wasn't date three yet. Maybe they weren't ready yet.

SPEAKER_03 8:03

What why does it have to be And who knows there was even a date? That's the weird thing. And what's he supposed to do? So, like this guy, like he wouldn't have mocked them like if the guy just busted in, like the key code goes in and he just busts in the door and they have sex, like that.

SPEAKER_05 8:19

Oh, he might have gone home run or touchdown or like something else to make it funny or to trying to make it.

SPEAKER_03 8:26

Three-point field goal.

SPEAKER_05 8:28

You could go into any restaurant and film a couple eating dinner and you could film a couple having dinner and then put the words in and make it funny. You could be like, She's sick and tired of him. She's had enough. She's trying to let it go. Right? And then he's grabbing his food and then he's ignoring.

SPEAKER_03 8:44

You could make it, or you can make their mouths move, and like Mr. Ed be like, so Wilbur, can I come in?

SPEAKER_05 8:50

There's gonna be.

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Can I come in to your Bordega, Wilbur?

SPEAKER_05 8:53

Oh no.

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See you at the stable. Be gentle.

unknown 8:58

Oh no.

SPEAKER_03 9:00

That's terrible.

SPEAKER_05 9:01

All right, what's but what's my next video? What's the next thing you want to talk about?

SPEAKER_03 9:04

Alright, so this is not going viral. This is an actual news story, and it's uh it happened in Massapua. It's the same uh Long Island town.

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Massapequa.

SPEAKER_03 9:12

The same Long Island town that the Long Island Lolita, Amy Fisher, and uh Joey Badafusco, that's their town, but Pasamaquadi.

SPEAKER_04 9:21

Okay, good.

SPEAKER_03 9:21

It's called Hookup Gone Wrong. And the Hookup Gone Wrong is I guess they they knew each other. Right. And I'm not sure if the story, if he invited her over or if she just came over, but it ended up with her, like they were they were gonna go, they're gonna hook up at three in the morning. It ended up It ended up with her stabbing him and killing them.

SPEAKER_05 9:45

Oh, that's not funny.

SPEAKER_03 9:46

No, it's not funny. It is that is a disaster date. Do you think she'll appear on the show?

SPEAKER_05 9:51

Yeah, what in 10 to 20? What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_03 9:54

Yeah, well, we'll be doing this show in 10 to 20.

SPEAKER_05 9:56

Well, I think so.

SPEAKER_03 9:59

We'll be like, oh, so we remember, I don't remember that mass of Blick was story.

SPEAKER_05 10:05

That's not a dating story. That's a forensic file story. That's a ID television story.

SPEAKER_03 10:10

But what a disaster. Like, I hope the hookup was I hope the hookup was good at least.

SPEAKER_05 10:15

I don't D do you do we even know that they did that? Like, did she like a like the black widow? She like like what?

SPEAKER_03 10:23

Well, uh, more to come, as they say. More to come.

SPEAKER_05 10:27

Alright, well, you can let us know how that unfolds, but I'm going to let you know it is not funny, and it's it doesn't sound like a real date.

SPEAKER_03 10:33

Alright, so alright. Um, so our our correspondent to be.

SPEAKER_05 10:38

Oh, I'm not talking to him. I'm not talking to him at all.

SPEAKER_03 10:41

Well, he just he just misinterpreted things. So I don't think you were uh making fun of him or you. Alright, so uh we're clearing the air and Brian.

SPEAKER_05 10:57

I'm not mad at you, but I'm mad at you now, and I never thought you were a creep. I don't know why you thought I would think you were a creep, and my feelings have been hurt for 24 hours now.

SPEAKER_03 11:06

I think this is I think this is making it worse.

SPEAKER_05 11:10

It's very possible, but it's too late. Now that he's hurt my feelings, he should be.

SPEAKER_03 11:14

He's buying equipment.

SPEAKER_05 11:16

He's buying equipment even though he thinks the co-host thinks he's a creep. I don't think that about you.

SPEAKER_03 11:20

No, no, he's going to get send us sound bites for he's gonna be like a man on the street in Florida.

SPEAKER_05 11:26

Man on the street in the street.

SPEAKER_03 11:27

He'll be like, hi everyone, this is this is Brian O'Neill. Tell me about your disaster date. When's the last time you had a date in this town?

SPEAKER_05 11:33

When's the last time you had a date in this town? I like it.

SPEAKER_03 11:35

Correct.

unknown 11:36

I like it.

SPEAKER_03 11:36

So he's so I'm not gonna produce it. I'm just going to do what I do with app time. I'm gonna have him send the clips and we're gonna just play the clips over the mic.

SPEAKER_05 11:45

A delay in between each one.

SPEAKER_03 11:47

So he said he said that he was buying equipment, and I said, that's great. Uh we're probably gonna have your segment for like a minute and a half to two minutes per episode, and he didn't respond to the text, so maybe this maybe he needs his own show.

SPEAKER_05 12:00

Or maybe we could spread it out. I mean, a minute and a half is a long action. Think about a commercial, that's a long time. Maybe we could do them like spread them out throughout the show, and it'll be even funnier. And it'll just be like little 15-second clips. Because let's see, if I come up to you and go, hey, tell me about your most disastrous date, how long would your response be?

SPEAKER_03 12:20

Yeah, um I don't know. They might tell a whole 10-minute story, like our guests.

SPEAKER_05 12:25

Oh, but he's supposed to do that.

SPEAKER_03 12:27

Well, maybe uh well, he wanted us to have questions, so we can just maybe we can make it so there's like a one word, like what's a deal breaker?

SPEAKER_05 12:33

Okay, so he wants us to give him some prompts.

SPEAKER_03 12:36

I think so.

SPEAKER_05 12:37

Alright, so we'll we'll come up with one more time. How do you feel about Wickers?

SPEAKER_03 12:44

I would love it if his first round of questions were asking people when the last time they had a date in this town was.

SPEAKER_05 12:49

That would be funny.

SPEAKER_03 12:50

That'd be very funny.

SPEAKER_05 12:52

It's just if they don't know the show and that it's the opening of our show, then they might not think it's funny. They might just look at him like, what? And then we wouldn't get good responses. So we'll have to work on it.

SPEAKER_03 13:02

Alright, so we got a little bit of listener feedback on some emails.

SPEAKER_05 13:06

Alright, let's hear it. Happy feedback?

SPEAKER_03 13:09

No, well, we can't even make the littlest mistake. Oh Dean, Dean mispronounced Cyril de Bergerac's name.

SPEAKER_05 13:18

Oh it's very easy to mispronounce.

SPEAKER_03 13:21

Oh, he's wrong. He shouldn't be quoting Shakespeare if he doesn't know the fucking name. Man.

SPEAKER_05 13:26

Did they really say that to you? Did somebody really say that? You shouldn't be able to do that.

SPEAKER_03 13:32

They said I shouldn't be quoting Shakespeare if I I love that person.

SPEAKER_05 13:38

That's hilarious. And I think you should be quoting Shakespeare no matter what. You're absolutely allowed.

SPEAKER_03 13:43

And our our last show about the lap dance at the wake. Someone said, I'm going, I'm going to the wrong, either I'm going to the wrong wakes or the wrong people are dying if I'm not getting lap dances.

SPEAKER_05 13:54

I I I I still have no words for the lap dances.

SPEAKER_03 13:58

I mean, I've heard Irish waist can be out there.

SPEAKER_05 14:01

I'm sure. I'm I'm I've heard that as well. Uh I've actually been to one where uh sorry.

SPEAKER_03 14:08

It's a celebration of life down there, apparently.

SPEAKER_05 14:12

Um I better tell her. Um so yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:17

Okay. So like yeah, you That's how you got me a took me a second to catch up with you, but uh yeah, no, I've never seen a lap dance at a butt you know what I think there is the the fact that they got married, I think that is kind of a a happy ending, so to speak. Yeah?

SPEAKER_05 14:34

Yeah, I'll give you that. I'm gonna give you that one. I'm gonna give you that one. It's a little it's a little funny. And they did, they ended up together forever, and I think you kind of should.

SPEAKER_03 14:43

No, no, they got divorced.

SPEAKER_05 14:44

Oh, they did divorce. I'm like, I think if you're the kind of person who would give someone a lap dance at a week, and you're the kind of person that would accept a lap dance at a week, then you two, you two are meant to be. I'm sad to hear that they got divorced. I was hoping that my I think most people would go, you know what? Not now.

SPEAKER_03 15:02

I was really hoping that I was really hoping that like during after their divorce proceedings in court that there'd be a lap dance. Maybe on the judge. The judge. Alright, last listener feedback. It's oh it was a one-word feedback. You ready? Ready, Jackie's mom is a brickhouse. I guess I saw the picture.

SPEAKER_05 15:29

You know what it was like to be a 14-year-old with a mom like that? Oh my god. My mother's 24-year-old boyfriend. I probably told you that before. Her 24-year-old boyfriend was cuter than my 16-year-old boyfriend. And she was 40-something.

SPEAKER_03 15:44

Did any of your boyfriends like try the flirt with your mom?

SPEAKER_05 15:47

My friends were like, let's go to Jackie's house, being smart asses, of course.

SPEAKER_03 15:51

I mean, I've got the opposite one. I had someone that I dated that said that told me my son was hot, but not in a creepy way.

SPEAKER_05 16:00

I don't know. If a guy said it about your daughter, you'd call him a creep.

SPEAKER_03 16:04

Oh, definitely.

SPEAKER_05 16:06

So this person isn't a creep? That's so unfortunate.

SPEAKER_03 16:08

No, I thought it was, yeah, not, but of course, I tried to defend myself. I was like, well, uh, yeah, because she was really hot, and I was like, well, he's got my genes. You know, I was trying to like try to trying to wedge in. She's trying to wedge in there.

SPEAKER_05 16:22

It's unfair, it's not appropriate. And here's the thing about my mom, just FYI. Whenever they would, they were like, Yeah, your mom's hot, and blah blah blah. They were all also afraid of her.

unknown 16:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 16:32

Because she's scary. She's a scary lady. That's why she can't come on the show, Tim.

SPEAKER_03 16:37

Okay. She's not coming on.

unknown 16:39

No.

SPEAKER_03 16:39

She's not coming on.

SPEAKER_05 16:40

We're not gonna let her.

SPEAKER_03 16:41

So are we ready for app time? Oh my gosh, I mean. Oh, other listener feedback. The app time theme. You guys, Lok said, you guys really suck on the theme because it's it doesn't. So anyway, I'm I am ready. Here we go.

SPEAKER_05 16:59

It worked! Put it back towards the mic. Twizz, twist.

SPEAKER_03 17:07

So I'm actually I actually am setting it up a different way, so I won't I won't blow.

SPEAKER_05 17:11

All right, so you ready for our right on time.

SPEAKER_03 17:14

So let's do real apps versus fake fake apps. I saw this real app that is just like a meetup for single people. They do all these great things like skydiving, hiking, picnicking, and you have to be single. I think that's fun. I think that's an A plus.

SPEAKER_05 17:28

I do too. I think because it's building community at the same time, it's getting you out there and making you do something. Because the first time you decide you want to go on a date with someone, like, okay, we've met on the mat, we've matched on the thing, then we've texted all this stuff. Then you have to go, oh, what are we gonna do?

SPEAKER_03 17:41

There is one problem.

SPEAKER_05 17:42

That's kind of neat. Uh-oh, what's the problem?

SPEAKER_03 17:44

The problem is like if you're a serial dater and then like you date different you're dating different people after rock climbing versus after bowling versus after swimming. Like it's just if it's a small community, then you're gonna have all that group stuff and group jealousy.

SPEAKER_05 17:58

And that's gonna happen anyways, if you're in a small town.

SPEAKER_03 18:00

So it's like yeah.

SPEAKER_05 18:02

What's a serial dater? I don't know what that means.

SPEAKER_03 18:05

It's someone that really doesn't have relationships. They're just like they're usually on apps and they go out on like 20 dates a month with different people.

SPEAKER_05 18:13

Hmm.

SPEAKER_03 18:15

So usually they're looking for something rather than a relationship.

SPEAKER_05 18:20

They're not they're dating, but not to progress any further. Okay, I got it.

SPEAKER_03 18:25

They're dating with their pants there, Jackie. They're dating with their pants.

SPEAKER_05 18:29

Heaven forbid, there should be a better name than cereal date.

SPEAKER_03 18:33

That could be actually that could be actually our that could be our fake act. Maybe we'll do it.

SPEAKER_05 18:38

Well, did you have a fake app for this week? Or did you not have a fake? Okay, let's hear it.

SPEAKER_03 18:42

And this came from Tisha. Good idea.

SPEAKER_05 18:44

All right, Tisha, let's hear it. Let's make it a bit.

SPEAKER_03 18:46

We've heard of the seven-minute dating.

SPEAKER_05 18:48

Have I heard of the seven-minute dating?

SPEAKER_03 18:50

Yeah, seven like seven-minute dates, right?

SPEAKER_05 18:51

Speed dating kind of thing.

SPEAKER_03 18:52

Speed dating, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 18:53

Got it.

SPEAKER_03 18:54

So this is like an all-day thing. It's it's seven-hour dating. So you're stuck with the person for seven hours, and you have to go to Ikea and eat the meatballs. Like that's part of the date.

SPEAKER_05 19:07

I will give their ten out of ten for originality. Because that is absolutely like wow. Your first date is seven hours in. It's almost like people who who fall in love after being in a traumatic event together, kind of thing. Like you're stuck in an elevator and then all that, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:22

Um, you meet at a tour.

SPEAKER_05 19:27

I don't know if you're gonna I don't it's unique. And IKEA and the meeting. All right, you know what? I think I think you'll get people who will say, I think people would sign up for that. That's hilarious. It's funny, you can get your shopping done at IKEA, and no one wants to go there more than once a year, anyways. So, like you're there. So you're just like you're getting two things done at once. You're deciding if this person's worth a second date, and you're buying uh uh furniture that's not gonna last you very long, but that's very cheap. You don't want to store more than that, so it kind of takes care of a couple of things at once.

SPEAKER_03 20:02

Yeah, I mean along those lines, right? But this has nothing to do with dating. He doesn't have to tell the story. Tisha's dad would go to Costco with the free samples.

SPEAKER_05 20:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:12

And if he liked the sample, like he put like sunglasses on and get another sample, like he'd be in disguise or put his hat on sideways, and they all knew it was him.

SPEAKER_05 20:24

That's very funny. I like it.

SPEAKER_03 20:26

Well, he thought he was being clever, but it was very transparent. Like he wasn't fooling anybody.

SPEAKER_05 20:31

Like I love Lucy episodes, like tell it was her, got it.

SPEAKER_03 20:35

So let's bring on our guests.

SPEAKER_05 20:36

Yay! Let's bring on our guests. We made him wait way too long. Dun dun dun dun dun!

SPEAKER_03 20:41

So we're gonna be like, can you give us some dating game music? Well, uh, he's a writer and a stand-up comic, and he lives in Central Mountain Time. Let's bring him on, Jade Jessler.

SPEAKER_05 20:54

Woo, dunna. I don't know any game show music.

SPEAKER_03 20:58

You were doing Rocky!

SPEAKER_05 21:02

I don't know game show music. Go ahead, Jade. Introduce yourself.

SPEAKER_02 21:08

Hey, Jade.

SPEAKER_05 21:10

You gotta unmute.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

There I am. Alright, well, hello. Hey. Uh, first of all, uh, the people that might have been at the funeral and getting the lap dance and then they fell in love, that could be just a second funeral. I'm I'm just saying. That whole thing might not have worked out.

SPEAKER_03 21:31

Uh I was thinking of it maybe as a Hallmark movie.

SPEAKER_05 21:35

Well, yeah, that would make it on there.

SPEAKER_01 21:37

I mean, you know, we could do it could follow Magic Mike, you know, it could have a whole theme going on there.

SPEAKER_05 21:44

Sounds like they did have a theme like that.

SPEAKER_03 21:46

Yeah, but the thing is the the Hallmark movie would be called Deadwood.

SPEAKER_05 21:51

No, that's not how lab dances work. Um, so also they would not, they would not, they would, they would probably be like, Like when they run out of ideas, because you know they just keep doing the same ones, it would be interesting if they started making like um you know how Cinemax had a Cinemax time, like at night it turned into something else? No, I didn't know anything about that. It could have their racy nighttime movies. That'll get it would open up so many more avenues for them to get new content.

SPEAKER_03 22:21

Well, before like porn was really out there, I remember in college looking at this late night cinemax, but he will the my roommate didn't subscribe to it, so it was all like wavy, like the old days. So you'd see like suddenly you'd see a nipple, or like it was very, it's very weird, right? Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_05 22:40

Anyway, okay, Jay, tell us about yourself because you sound very interesting.

SPEAKER_01 22:45

Oh, um, yeah. So my name's Jay Jesser. I'm a published author, I'm a stand-up comedian, and I'm an actor, and I've done a lot of things. I've got a movie coming out here in a couple weeks that's uh probably gonna be a pretty cool little short film that's coming out, and uh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:01

So, how would someone like you like have uh have a bad date? Like that sounds like amazing stuff.

SPEAKER_05 23:08

How could you have a bad date?

SPEAKER_01 23:10

What's that possible? We have so many stories. I let's just put it this way I don't date anymore. That's how that's how bad my stories are. Yeah, I'm done.

SPEAKER_04 23:20

You're done forever, ever.

SPEAKER_01 23:23

I I don't anticipate changing. I don't I understand this. I understand this.

SPEAKER_05 23:29

Interesting. Yeah, because I know somebody who saw you on the TikTok when I said, Hey, I got this person coming on the show. They were like, Hey, beefcake. And I started laughing. And you're saying you are off the market.

SPEAKER_01 23:43

I probably sorry, little deans. It it would be it would be uh sad, it would be miraculous if somebody were to come along to change my mind. But also, you know, the reason why I started following you, Jackie, yeah, was because you have that whole ADHD narcissism thing that you talk about a lot. And so I have ADHD, and I ended up hooked up with a narcissist, and I'm about to release a book about that.

SPEAKER_05 24:09

I can't wait to read that book, that's gonna be exciting, and um, yeah, we we ADHD people, we love toxic people.

SPEAKER_01 24:16

They make us oh yeah, oh god, we love them so much.

SPEAKER_05 24:19

We love them.

SPEAKER_03 24:20

That's why that's why you're my co-host and Jade is my guest.

SPEAKER_05 24:24

Exactly. We're here because we just love Toxic Tim.

SPEAKER_01 24:28

Absolutely, yeah. There's nothing like loving somebody so much that you replay every conversation that they have with you a hundred times to make sure you really get it right.

SPEAKER_05 24:37

Oh god, rumination is the worst. Yeah, I'm so sorry, but I'm also so glad that we met that way because I never talk about my TikTok on the this show, even though I guess I kind of should, shouldn't I, Tim?

SPEAKER_01 24:49

Yeah, you should.

SPEAKER_05 24:50

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 24:51

Well, you're very talking you're very well spoken on TikTok, and I totally recommend that people find you on there because that's what you got.

SPEAKER_05 24:59

Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_03 25:00

Are you saying I'm not well spoken on the I will put I'll put your TikTok I will put Jackie's Jackie's TikTok link will be in the show notes for everybody.

SPEAKER_05 25:08

Oh, thanks. But okay.

SPEAKER_03 25:11

All right, so JD, you had some you had some great dates to remember, eh?

SPEAKER_01 25:17

Oh yeah, yeah. So yeah, I've had some I've had some amazing dates. I think um um the most embarrassing one that I landed on for this show because I've had some I have some dates that are just codenamed certain words. Like I have what is called the howitzer date, which we will not discuss on here, and then I have this one that we're going to discuss on here. Of course, now I'm more interested in the first one.

SPEAKER_05 25:43

Now we need to have the other one. You're gonna have to be a repeat on the podcast.

SPEAKER_01 25:46

Well, I guess you're gonna have to get me back on it.

SPEAKER_05 25:48

Yeah, we're gonna have to.

SPEAKER_01 25:51

But yeah, so uh this one um uh is a fantastic story because it actually led me into a huge like growth moment in my life. So I gave up drinking because of this date. So I mean I was already kind of teetering on giving up drinking anyway. I was like working towards it, but this was like um this was like the uh nudge over the cliff, so to speak, and I I would definitely describe it that way.

SPEAKER_03 26:20

Wow, I gave up drinking because of the handcuffs.

SPEAKER_05 26:22

They a lot of people give up drinking that way. It's popular.

SPEAKER_01 26:27

Those handcuffs never slowed me down, unfortunately. But uh Wow I did have to deal with them a couple of times.

SPEAKER_05 26:34

Wait, before we begin, does this person know that they are the date that that pushed you over the edge?

SPEAKER_01 26:41

Uh I I mean, uh yeah, to a point. I don't know. I don't know if they know to the extreme in which like it was a deciding factor in how I behaved. Okay, but like they definitely we stayed in touch after the date. Like we didn't just totally like stop talking to each other in general. But um yeah. So tell us about tell us about this.

SPEAKER_05 27:06

Tell us about the girl.

SPEAKER_01 27:07

Okay, about the girl or about the date. Which one? The girl?

SPEAKER_05 27:10

Well, I think it took you, I think you said there was a long time in between really working the date. You're like, I wanted to go on a date with this person, and you worked for like a year, didn't you?

SPEAKER_01 27:18

Yeah, yeah. So I'm so I'm incredibly picky, right? So I I have a certain, you know, aesthetic, uh, you know, that that is kind of like a cutoff before I even start talking to anybody. And so I have to make that, and then I have like a certain kind of uh political guideline that I have to align with. Okay. Um I'm a very I'm a very liberal person um in in all aspects of things. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 27:42

Um we were worried.

SPEAKER_01 27:45

Well, you know, liberals should stick with liberals, conservatives, magazines.

SPEAKER_05 27:50

It's much better when you're dating that way.

SPEAKER_01 27:51

It makes like well, and and for me, it's just it's more or less like, are you a hypocrite? Like you can have your beliefs all you want, but like if you see one side of the fence doing something and you want to complain about that, and then your side of the fence does it, and you can't complain about that, then I've got a problem with you. For example, hypothetically speaking, the gas prices were really high during, I don't know, the COVID pandemic, and a whole bunch of people put little pictures on every gas pump and said, Hey, I did that, and they were of Joe Biden.

SPEAKER_03 28:26

I mean, I'm the one that did it actually.

SPEAKER_01 28:27

I'm the I I'll take full responsibility. But but nowadays, if you're with the other guy on there, uh after we're uh in a war, yeah, no, no, he's fine. But uh there's this girl, so you're picky. There's there's an alignment, and then the third thing is is there has to be like a sense of humor, like I uh hopefully a dark sense of humor. Okay, and uh I'm your guy, just right.

SPEAKER_05 28:54

No, he's not changing teams.

SPEAKER_01 28:56

You do have a little little uh Vin Diesel look to you, buddy. You got you got that little uh Vin Diesel smolder there.

SPEAKER_05 29:03

Oh, it's you getting the compliments.

SPEAKER_03 29:06

Well checking that the other day, uh someone said, Oh, I had the Travolta thing going on.

SPEAKER_05 29:11

I don't know what you're having a week, Jeremy. You are having a week.

SPEAKER_01 29:15

But then the then the final thing is just intelligence, and so if if somebody can keep up with me in a conversation, then I'm good to go. And this this gal, uh, we'll call her Angel, she had uh she had it all. All right, uh all everything. And so like we would talk on on each other's, you know, Facebook posts and and you know, we would align on a lot of things, and you know, then we'd start, you know, messaging, and I'm really working. I'm really working on like all I'm pulling out all the wit, all the charm. Got it, and uh I finally, you know, just ask her out and she says no. Wow, what's going on here?

SPEAKER_05 29:58

Yeah, like doesn't she knowledge accepted?

SPEAKER_01 30:03

So, you know, I do some calisthenics and I'm back at it, you know. And uh, you know, I it probably takes me about a year to get her to finally agree to going out with me. It was just no, no, no, no, no, no good reason, okay, nothing. And then finally she's like, okay, fine, we'll go out.

SPEAKER_04 30:22

Got it.

SPEAKER_01 30:24

And so we do. And there's a ton of chemistry, and we're just having a fantastic time. We're laughing at each other's jokes. She's funny, she's smart, she's beautiful. Everything is there, and uh, we're even kind of like we're even kind of like getting closer to each other on the date, you know, right? Edging up, getting ready to talk to you. Did you ask why she said no to you though? Well, she said no, she said no several times, and no, I didn't really ask, I just kind of looked at it like, well, I'll come back at it in a week and see what she says over.

SPEAKER_04 30:59

Persistence worked out, you're having a great date.

SPEAKER_01 31:03

We'll see what happens. We'll just start talking about something else, and I'll be like, Are you sure you don't want to go out with me? No, are you sure?

SPEAKER_04 31:11

And this is have you really thought about it?

SPEAKER_03 31:13

Like, this is how you do it, guys. Like showing up at our place of work or at our house is not the way to do it. Just this is good persistence.

SPEAKER_01 31:20

Well, and the idea is, you know, you never you never like just make it all about the date, it was always about the conversation we were having at a time, and then it would be like, Are you sure you don't want to like hang out sometimes? So, anyways, yeah, so we're having a great time. And then at one point, I mean, this is probably a solid like hour and a half, two hours into the date. She leans forward and very gently touches me on the arm to get me to shut up because I talk too much. Okay, and and um I'm like, what? What is it? And she's like, Jay, you do realize that um this isn't our first date, right?

SPEAKER_06 32:03

Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_01 32:04

What do you talk about? This isn't our first date, and I and I think she's kind of messing with me at this point. And she's like, um, this isn't our first date. And I was like, nah. And she's like, Yeah, about a year and a half ago, we went out and you never called me. Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_05 32:26

No wonder she made you wait a year.

SPEAKER_03 32:28

So I guess the question is, is it because you dated a lot of women or you just were blacked out?

SPEAKER_01 32:36

Well, I mean, that's I mean, it is because I was drunk, it as it turned out, but I but I had no recollection of this date. I had zero recollection of it.

SPEAKER_05 32:45

You'd gone to dinner, you had you what did you guys do on your date?

SPEAKER_01 32:48

Oh, you don't remember the date. That's the same exact thing that I was thinking. I was like, what did we do on this date? You know, like what happened? Like, I don't remember anything.

SPEAKER_05 32:57

Did you smack me in the face?

SPEAKER_01 32:58

Right, what and I mean, you guys, you guys, I cannot stress to you how much I was into this girl like to get her to go out with me this this second time.

SPEAKER_03 33:10

Like, I was I was like, I mean, I I hope the first date wasn't that you took her for a drive.

SPEAKER_05 33:15

Well, oh dear.

SPEAKER_01 33:17

Well, so that so I didn't know what the first date was about, and so I I very and she could tell right away that I wasn't acting, like she was like, Wow, you really don't remember right, and I can tell you that would not make me feel good. And I was like, Oh my god, and I was so I was so embarrassed that I couldn't remember going on a date with this girl that I genuinely was into, like genuinely.

SPEAKER_03 33:41

Did you think of making something up quick? Like, oh, I got hit in the head about a year ago.

SPEAKER_01 33:47

No, there was no making anything up, all my cool was gone. Yeah, I I literally had not that was not a scenario that I had imagined ever occurring. Like, I I did not realize that my memory could be affected like that. No, and so I so I very like you know, trying to pull this current date out of like the awkward moment that was that it was in the way.

SPEAKER_05 34:14

No, no, stay with me, stay with me here.

SPEAKER_01 34:16

Remember, I mean it was almost like being at a funeral and some guy getting a lap dance. Like it was awkward. Oh my god, and uh so uh I I'm sitting there and I'm like, well, hey, was it at least a nice date? Did we have fun? I'm sorry, I don't remember, but did we have a good time? And she goes, Jade, we had a great weekend. Wow, that's a lot of drinking, that's a lot of time together, and yeah, a lot of time gone. Oh yeah, I can see why that was your last drink.

unknown 34:57

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 34:58

So, well, I mean, that was like, like I said, that was like the thing that I was like, man, I I can't be drinking again because I I literally was so embarrassed that that you know I had been planning this date that we were on for a year because I was so excited about this girl and unbeknownst.

SPEAKER_03 35:15

So subliminally, maybe it was because that date was during the blackout, it was great.

SPEAKER_05 35:20

It was so good that you're actually chemically attracted to this human and your body's going, Hey, let's do that again.

SPEAKER_03 35:26

So, what did you do on the blackout? Did you like did she spend the she obviously she spent the night?

SPEAKER_01 35:33

She spent the weekend, and like she when she's so when she started giving me details about the night, so like back then, um, I actually owned a a a bar and an event center, and so I had a couple of of my own businesses. So I had like my own cab driver that would pretty much drop whatever he was doing when I when I called him. And um so like one of the one of the things that he would do was he would go pick me up a case of of beer, you know, before you couldn't buy alcohol and then take me wherever I needed to go. And so, like when she told me that, you know, uh she remembered the cab driver bringing bringing me beer, I was like, oh shit, this is real. Like she really she's not making this up because like you had your number.

SPEAKER_03 36:23

I was there did you guys meet at the event center the first time?

SPEAKER_01 36:27

Uh we we met uh no, we met online. We met we met on Facebook. This was before there was Facebook dating. So this was this was a solid 12 years ago, maybe 11 years ago.

SPEAKER_05 36:42

Okay, so wait, so you're in this moment in the new date. She tells you this, you're having this realization. What happens?

SPEAKER_01 36:50

Yeah, so all of these memories are flashing back through my head, and I'm just like, I'm like, oh my gosh. I don't know how to. I I even looked at her and asked her, like, I don't know how to respond to this. Oh, you should have said, Was I any good?

SPEAKER_05 37:07

Well, I don't think she wouldn't have stayed all weekends, Tim. Right?

SPEAKER_03 37:11

Yeah, I mean I mean he could have kidnapped her, told the cab driver, go away till Monday.

SPEAKER_05 37:16

I don't think he would have got the second date.

SPEAKER_03 37:18

Listen, Cabbie, don't don't come back for a while.

SPEAKER_05 37:23

I don't I don't think she would have gone that way. I don't I don't see it happening, Tim.

SPEAKER_01 37:26

Well, we just had we just had this moment where she was really trying to process that that I really didn't remember. Yeah, and uh go on, go yeah, she was trying to process that I I couldn't actually remember, and she was being very, very cool about it because when she was like, Oh, well, that's why you ghosted me. Like, I thought you were just a jerk and didn't, you know, care. And then, but I couldn't handle it.

SPEAKER_03 37:54

You actually you actually ghosted her during the date.

SPEAKER_05 37:57

I but she didn't know that. This was a ghost. Yeah, and then she's like, Wow, then she's probably spending all this time afterwards going, What was wrong with me? What maybe I wasn't any good. Oh no, it's like that song, but you send her some flowers, you send her something, send her another present.

SPEAKER_01 38:16

And and that was and and so then that's what I ended up hyper focusing on is how negative like that impact must have been on her.

SPEAKER_06 38:23

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:24

Because I genuinely liked her. Oh and then and then I was I was really disappointed in myself to the point where like we ended we ended the current date, right? And I just went home and felt sorry for myself. And then we um we talked as friends after that quite a few times, and most of those conversations started out with me being like, I am so fucking sorry. Like, I can't believe I did that to you. And I think there was actually a point where she was like basically forgiving of the whole situation and kind of like, well, you know what? Like, shit happens, like we could do this, but I I couldn't at that point. Like, I was like embarrassed.

SPEAKER_05 39:10

You couldn't date her anymore because of the embarrassment.

SPEAKER_01 39:12

Oh, she checked all your boxes, she did, she checked all my boxes and she forgave me. And I still I still could not deal with the shame. I thought about it constantly.

SPEAKER_03 39:23

So what so yeah, so why are you not dating now? Hmm. I got right, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it could have been.

SPEAKER_05 39:28

I mean, I and then you fell in love with a narcissist.

SPEAKER_01 39:32

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so so I I mean, I guess that would be like um fast forward 10 years. So then I went on a huge fitness journey after this. Yeah, I I gave up drinking completely.

SPEAKER_05 39:43

Did you go to like were you sober, like going to meetings kind of thing? Sober?

SPEAKER_01 39:47

Or just no, no, I've I've never gone to meetings, but um I decided on my 40th birthday, which was 10 years ago, uh, that I wasn't gonna drink 10 years or until my wedding night. And so uh September 5th will be 10 years.

SPEAKER_04 40:05

Oh so are you planning on drinking again?

SPEAKER_01 40:09

I might. I I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 40:11

I might maybe you should ask her out and then drink on the same night.

SPEAKER_01 40:15

I've been I've been um I've been I've been having some guilty pleasures watching some some different shows like Lucifer, and every time he has like a really nice bourbon, I'm like Oh yeah, and they do they glam that up a lot in Lucifer.

SPEAKER_05 40:29

That's a great idea.

SPEAKER_01 40:31

Maybe I do want a bourbon, you know. Well well, Jade, thanks for being on the show.

SPEAKER_05 40:35

We don't want to leave it on him having a drink. No, Jade.

SPEAKER_03 40:39

We don't want you to how do you want to leave it?

SPEAKER_05 40:42

I want I want you to think about going to do some exercise, Jade. Go do some exercise and then you will find love again.

SPEAKER_03 40:49

So is Angel married now? Are you still friends?

SPEAKER_01 40:52

I don't know. I so I I actually uh because of the narcissist deleted my socials. So the only the only uh social I have. Yeah, yeah. The only social I have left is TikTok. Yeah. Um, and so like uh yeah, I I don't really know how she's doing.

SPEAKER_03 41:12

I think you should try. I think you should try to find her.

SPEAKER_05 41:14

Does she live in that area? Does she live near you?

SPEAKER_01 41:17

Yeah, she does.

SPEAKER_05 41:18

Oh Angel, if you're listening, he's very nice.

SPEAKER_01 41:24

I think she would probably agree with you. Like, I mean, we we got along fine.

SPEAKER_03 41:27

I think that I think this is the one that got away. I think that you should try to find her. It'll be like that, it'll be like that movie, then you appear at her door, and then she's like the kid. And we could have them both on the show, and then the husband and kids answer the door, and you're like the flowers droop.

SPEAKER_01 41:43

Oh yeah. You don't think I'd show up with a boom box?

SPEAKER_04 41:47

Show up Light Dawler! Woo!

SPEAKER_01 41:51

Show up in a cab. Yeah, right?

SPEAKER_03 41:55

Case of beer. So it sounds like sounds like you have some other stories for us for other times.

SPEAKER_05 41:59

So we're gonna have to come back.

SPEAKER_01 42:02

I got lots. I appreciate you guys having me on.

SPEAKER_05 42:04

We appreciate you coming on the show.

SPEAKER_03 42:06

So Jade Jesser, check out his books, check out his comedy. Cool stuff.

SPEAKER_05 42:10

How does he do how do we do that? J Jessorofficial.com.

SPEAKER_01 42:14

Uh no, uh, my books would be on uh uh Balefire Balefirebooks.com. Balefirebooks.

SPEAKER_05 42:24

I think Tim can link it on the show notes too.

SPEAKER_01 42:27

Okay, I'll link the book.

SPEAKER_05 42:29

Perfect.

SPEAKER_01 42:30

And there's all sorts of stuff on there about me and what you want to do and what you want to follow and all that kind of stuff. Cool. Thanks, Jade.

SPEAKER_04 42:37

Thanks, Jade.

SPEAKER_01 42:39

Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_04 42:40

Bye.

SPEAKER_03 42:41

Bye. Now, this is the time of the show that I tell Jackie that we're still recording, and I'm not gonna do I'm not gonna have to go into production and delete like these side conversations when you thought we weren't recording.

SPEAKER_05 42:53

So you don't want me to say something inappropriate and be mad if you if you don't edit it out? Is that what you're saying?

SPEAKER_03 42:57

Well, the the t-shirt episode that's going to that came out last week, there was some there were some three-minute sections that I edited out, and and again, we're gonna have a contest. If people know, if people can figure it out, we'll we'll send them a t-shirt and uh pay for their or either that or pay for their Spotify for a month.

SPEAKER_05 43:19

You giving out gifts. All right. Sounds good. Today was a fun show.

SPEAKER_03 43:25

It was a fun show.

SPEAKER_05 43:27

And and I feel like there's something we're forgetting about you that I can't remember what it is right now.

SPEAKER_03 43:31

Uh, do are you gonna remember doing the show? I might forget.

SPEAKER_05 43:34

I might forget the show.

SPEAKER_03 43:35

We'll invite Jade back as a guest and pretend that he wasn't on the show before.

SPEAKER_05 43:40

Oh yeah, yeah, we'll be like, This isn't the first time you've been on our show.

SPEAKER_03 43:43

No, but he'll say that to us. I know the first time we've been on this show. And we'll be like, Yeah, we spent the weekend together.

SPEAKER_05 43:52

Hey, dude, that was a big deal.

SPEAKER_03 43:54

That was a big deal.

SPEAKER_05 43:56

It would seem an interesting.

SPEAKER_03 43:58

Before I quit drinking, I had blackouts and gray outs, but I would always fade in and out. Like it'd be like a checkpoint, like, oh yeah, I'm still with this girl. Like, so I don't I that's one thing that I hear at AA meetings and whatnot, I don't quite understand full blackouts, full 100% blackouts, because I don't think I've ever experienced that. I've had some time lapses. I always think that it's a time machine, but that's about it.

SPEAKER_05 44:20

I've actually blacked out, and I I'm I I'm not sober. So it's interesting.

SPEAKER_03 44:26

Let's try to have a very special blackout episode that our guest is blacked out during the.

SPEAKER_05 44:31

I was in Miami. Things happen there. All right.

SPEAKER_03 44:33

It's like, you know, it's like when Blossom had that special episode in the 80s. We can have the this is a very special blackout episode. Very special.

SPEAKER_05 44:41

I don't I don't think that's a good plan at all.

SPEAKER_03 44:44

Anyway, if you want to be on the show.

SPEAKER_05 44:47

Oh, that's right. You gotta email us.

SPEAKER_03 44:49

The TWODeans at gmail.com or the Dean and Dawes podcast at gmail.com. Or you can text us through the show now on any of the while you're listening to it. If you listen to it on your phone, you can text us through the show, or you can join the Facebook group. Jade Jade would join the Facebook group, but his somehow someone got their hands on his.

SPEAKER_05 45:12

He's not allowed to be on Facebook anymore.

SPEAKER_03 45:25

There's no the weird. So you're as good at that as I am with the theme music. Alright, well, we love you. We love we love you. Thanks for listening, thanks for getting if you if you if you if you like the show, tell a friend, and if you didn't, shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_05 45:46

No, that's not that's not nice. That's not nice.