You’re Not Seeing The Full Story (And You Know It)

It’s not just you.

Something feels off—and it’s getting harder to ignore.

In this episode, we break down why the version of events you’re seeing in the media might only be a fraction of what’s actually happening. From courtroom realities to selective prosecution, this conversation challenges how information is filtered, framed, and delivered. 

Learn more about the work discussed here:
 https://theamericanrightsalliance.org

More importantly—it asks the question most people are already thinking:

If everything feels manipulated… does your vote still matter?

This isn’t about picking a side.

It’s about figuring out what’s real.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:13

The news doesn't cover the whole scope of it. They only cover the part that's going to take five seconds and then they click off and say, Good luck.

SPEAKER_00 0:22

Yeah. I mean, and even worse, it's they want they want a specific story to tell, so they'll depict it from an angle. It's kind of like if if two people are watching a movie and you ask them to summarize it, and you have to think to yourself, is that the same movie? Did you watch the same movie I watched? Because I didn't get anything out of that. And that's really happening now, especially with the news cycles and what did the media decide to report and conveniently to feel to report it under the selective process that they have, which is anything but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:57

I mean, we definitely know they're not objective. Something that I've been trying to educate people on more is a lot of the media, they're more registered entertainment companies now, rather than news organizations because they can get away with twisting things around and not be illegally liable. People, when I tell people that, they don't believe me. They're like, you know, you're just a communist or you're a this or you're that and I'm like, don't gotta take my word for it. It's public information. Go look it up yourself. They don't, they're not obligated to tell you the truth at this point. And that's the scary part, you know. So are our rights like some of the court cases recently, like you know, we were talking about the Tina Peters thing, the case that you've been really involved in. There's been a couple where things just I'm trying to think of the best way to put it. I know in Georgia they've discovered some certain things with the election issues. I haven't seen like complete clear pictures of it because depending which website or thing you, you know, you go to, it's a completely different story. So are these rights really pushing?

SPEAKER_00 1:50

Yeah, I mean, it's bad enough that we have uh selective prosecution in this country, right? So you know, you have people that have been in office or have been married to people in office that if you took the selective prosecution pendulum and put it on the other side, they would be in jail for 20 life sentences. But we now can label others that you know are quote unquote enemy of the state because they believe in freedom and justice and or have have opinions and First Amendment rights that are greatly taken away. So now what we're seeing is a lot of things that are going in court, you would never have thought. And you have juries that are, like, for example, Washington, D.C., that are, you know, you could anyone who has a political angle that's 51% or greater to the right, no matter what they're charged with, they're going to be found guilty. And I mean, the numbers are the numbers. And you have also judges that have been appointed there. You have to ask, were they appointed based upon their ability to be an objective judge, or were they there for a specific purpose? And and until recently, we pretended that they were there for a specific, I mean, for their objectiveness. But now we don't even shy away from the fact that, you know, they are selective appointments. You know, Biden stated with the latest Supreme Court Justice nomination that he's not looking for the best United States Supreme Court Justice to live and serve a lifetime on that bench at the highest level. He's looking for the best one that also happens to fit a certain gender and a certain color of skin. And yet that's not considered racist. I don't know what is if that's not. But this is the role we're living at. Now you don't have the best judge. You have the best judge that search that that has specific requirements, which may by definition mean that there's 30, 40 other judges that are more qualified than that person. But you're you're basing it off of things that you and I and everyone else in this world has not had the right to choose. I wasn't asked when I was born what color I wanted to be, what gender I wanted to be, what country I wanted to be born in. It was just all brought onto me by circumstance. But yet, when it comes to getting to become a Supreme Court at the highest level, all of those things that nobody has chosen they were born into are now becoming reasons to hire them. And that's kind of anti-American. It's, you know, at some point when the Equal Rights Acts uh movement happened, there was definitely a need for it. But you know, at some point you have to ask yourself, is this something that's always going to happen? And at what level do we decide otherwise? And we're seeing that in the justice system as well. Selective prosecution, you know, we really need to not charge this person because of the optics, but we'll charge this person because of the optics. And that's so anti-American, and that's one of the things that we're really working on right now, which leads to someone like Tina Peters and the work that we're working on on her side.

SPEAKER_01 4:49

Yeah, I had since she won the case, and then the state picked it up, if I'm right.

SPEAKER_00 4:53

No, no, what happened was this was always a state issue. Technically, you could say it's a federal issue, but the state decided to charge under state law. So to start at the beginning, for your listening audience who they don't know who Tina Peters is, is she was a supervisor of elections in the state of Colorado during a 2020 election. She saw a voter irregularity. She was supposed to update the machines, which would have destroyed certain critical evidence that would support these irregularities. And so she tried to preserve it, sent it to a whistleblower. Now she's a 70-year-old woman spending eight years in jail. So we got this to the attention of the right people. The president, as recently as last week, on his true social page, said Free Tina Peters. He pardoned her and trying to lobby or suggest to the governor of the great state of Colorado that she is a political prisoner. She's a 70-year-old woman with no criminal history whatsoever, facing a significant, pretty much a life sentence in horrific, you know, living quarters. She's not even in an 8x6 cell, she's on a 3x5 cell that was previously a closet. It was a janitor's closet, but this woman's prison that she's in, they needed space, and they put her with another roommate. So when she needs to stand up, she has to count on her roommate to be on the bed. I mean, this is hell she's living through. Somebody who has preexisting medical issues that are only going to be exacerbated by the living conditions that she's subjected to. And this is not how we should treat our enemies, and this is how we treat our own. Says a lot about our country and our society if we're okay with it. And people look at this as Democrat versus Republican. And that's what's the most difficult thing is it's a humane issue. And, you know, I don't care if you're a Democrat. In fact, I might fight twice as hard if she was a Democrat doing this. And the reason why is because I want equal justice for all. And I want I don't want selective prosecution. But clearly, unequivocally, this was selective prosecution. Go against those who speak up against the elite, those who are the unelected officials running this government one way or another, directly or indirectly.

SPEAKER_01 7:12

I mean, you're not wrong at all. If this goes the way that you think it does, or the way it seems to where it's going to go, like, you know, they're going to do everything they can to keep her there. What does that mean for a lot of these elections going forward? Like, how do people trust them?

SPEAKER_00 7:26

I mean, let's question what what the president's trying to do right now. I mean, the the bill that he's trying to get passed is you must prove that you're a citizen and have a valid driver's license. And the argument on the other side is they're using racism to to to to state racism. You know, it it's so obvious. I mean, they're saying that people of minority status and they're really through innuendo and blacks in particular do not have the ability to get a driver's license to prove that they can vote, and therefore it's voter suppression. In order to say that, you must, you know, recognize at some level that you are being extremely racist and inaccurate. I mean, to get a cell phone, to fly, to to get a job, to do everything else in life, all walks of society have the ability to get some sort of identification. So you have to ask yourself, what is the truth behind this? The truth is that they know that they count on votes that are not qualified votes. And where's the outrage? I mean, the best thing about being an American is amongst having the freedom is to get to vote, to select those who really lead and represent our country. And you take that away from all the other people who are validly able to vote by giving people, you know, who have no rights to be in this country in the first place the right to vote. Yeah, I couldn't imagine taking my car and driving north or south from in Florida. So it would probably be quicker to get to Mexico, but you have the Florida panhandle. I mean, maybe you drive north, get to Canada, and and and and demand that you get equal rights, due process, and the right to vote. And if you get deported, you have the right to stay there and to fight your case. I mean, what country exists like that? But you have to ask why. No, the answer to me is simple. It's it's power, it's a way to get people in power.

SPEAKER_01 9:30

Well, I mean, one 1000%. This is about protecting the establishment in a lot of ways. And you know, let me ask you something. This is very little relates directly to this, you know, to the person listening right now, you know, they go to work, they pay taxes, they vote just like you and I. And, you know, they feel like none of it matters. Are they wrong? Or is the system actually built so that feeling this is correct, and do we have the ability to fix it?

SPEAKER_00 10:19

First of all, we definitely have the ability to fix it, but I agree with that sentiment. I think your vote doesn't matter because if it's tied and washed away with people who have no voter status, that during the COVID times, you had people who didn't even ever vote. And all of a sudden they're getting ballots in the mail. People are knocking on their doors, they're saying, you know, it it's the American way to ballot harvest. I mean, it's all these things that get a specific outcome and that they take away from the people who are actually pillars of society that are doing what is necessary to get their voice out there. There, you know, if you take time from work and wait in line and vote, I mean, that really means you're dedicated. Or if you, you know, have the ability to be proactive and vote on a day that, you know, allows your schedule to be flexible enough to vote. What I think we should do is have election days every four years or you know, a midterm, which is every other year, as a specific day where we get off from work if we vote. I mean, that should be in the law so that we have access to both. We should all vote on the same day. Um, all end ballots should be limited because they're subjected to common sense fraud. I mean, it's just what where's common sense? It's not so common anymore because it's an inconvenient truth.

SPEAKER_01 11:45

Well, yeah, common sense went out the window about four or five years ago. COVID took common sense and just lit it on fire and said, good luck ever finding this again. That's definitely how it feels. You know, it's that trust that, you know, like I was saying, people have with you know, that because like what you just said on, you know, what I asked, those are the questions that it seems like nobody on either side will answer if they're not part of. I know the president's got the confidence to answer that, but he's also a very very he he does not care, you know, a lot, but a lot of politicians at different levels, they kind of shy away from answering those questions, it seems like, you know, and I mean I get why, you know, it's their career that's on the line if they don't answer it the way they should, you know. But someone benefits from your rights getting smaller, right? The our rights shrinking, you know, and that's not a conspiracy. I mean, that's just kind of that's the fact of life. Something gets taken away, somebody benefits, right? The pot's only so big, it goes like this. And, you know, for me, both parties always campaign on freedom, just like I had done an episode not long ago where they were like, both parties here in Michigan, we want to go on affordability. And I said, Okay, well, what does affordability look like to you? I know what affordability looks like to me, but if I'm voting for you, what does affordability look like? You know, and that's where like that, that's why people feel like their voting doesn't matter. Because you got somebody who's oh, hey, I I care about affordability. Well, what does that look like? I want to cut prices. Well, that's great.

SPEAKER_00 13:10

Yeah, well, I can't wait for the politicians, you know, if they could speak the truth. So remember that movie with uh Liar Liar with Jim Carrey in it? Yes, if you could imagine what what what these politicians would actually say. For example, my campaign would be like, I want to increase my net worth to over$30 million, so that's why you should vote for me. I want insider trading that we put people in jail for. Martha Stewart went to jail, but I want to do that so that I can make better returns than anybody in the history of Wall Street, because we we really need to put an end to the corruption in Wall Street, and this is a great way of doing it. Just feeding to our own personal pockets, you know. Could you imagine if politicians said that? But we know they're doing it, we know their motivation. We I mean, you have Ilhan Omar, who was, you know, had a net worth of like zero, now worth 30 million dollars. Oh, yeah, but it's a salary of like 150,000 a year. I mean, where's the outrage?

SPEAKER_01 14:09

Yeah, no, I I had the Republican that's running against her on here in I think it was January. Yeah, you know, and she said she goes, you know, she's like, I'm not afraid to walk the streets. She's you know, and I believe she's an Iraqi immigrant. You know, and she essentially was saying Elon Omar is like overblowing the quote unquote danger from ICE. She's like, she's really pushing it like way out of the stratosphere. And I had personally challenged a politician that's in my local community. He was not Facebook going, you know, ICE buying a detention facility, this, that, and the other thing. I said, if you truly at this part, what they're doing truly bothers you, why haven't you been having an issue with it since it was you know brought about in 2003? I said, because they've had incidents, you know, there's all just like you know, the police, right? There's always complaints about this, that, or the other thing. Not to minimize anybody dying, but it's just if you truly had an issue with that, why didn't you say something before? And literally the response I got from it was, I'm just a state senator.

SPEAKER_00 15:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:07

Well, you sure had no issue saying something about it.

SPEAKER_00 15:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:12

You know, and that was kind of that was, you know, my thing with it. And it was, you know, like if you have an issue with something, it's totally fine. We all have issues with certain things, but if you're gonna, if if that's the vine you're gonna die on, you know, at least make sure you know you stick to your guns or you say, hey, this is why I changed. And the voters will respect if you change your tone, as long as you're honest with them.

SPEAKER_00 15:33

Yeah, no, I I I I I I agree with you. I mean, and I I think that's the key, as long as you are honest with them. The problem is I ran for office once, not even to win, although at first I probably wanted to win, and then I realized the the nature of the position that I decided that, like, hey, going into politics is crazy. I mean, you could speak to a person for two hours just to get one vote, and then you have to take away a lot of things that may you may feel agreeable to in order to generate a a voter base that will you know represent, you know, or get you into office. And uh if you don't do the right thing by them, I mean you're now stuck in a a rock in a hard place. And uh th the the major challenge is uh we know that politics is slimy and uh it's it gets slimier by the minute. I mean, we have such a crazy society right now where it's like almost like having a civil war. And uh, you know, people don't care as much as what's happening in Washington versus the rhetoric or the delivery of the message and the direction of the news media and the angle. There is no objectivity, and it's funny because I have a 12-year-old son, he's like, Well, if you listen to Fox News all day, how do you know what people on the other side are gonna argue? And why do you know that you're right? And because you don't hear the other side. So then you try to hear the other side, and you, you know, MSNBC, and you see how they're covering the same exact thing, and it's almost as if we're living in a different country. It is so bi bipolar, it's so you know, polar opposite, I should say. And you ask yourself, why? Um, you know, and then you have social media that you know it's clickbait. So you have these people in Congress that all they care about is getting something that they can say, uh-huh, I had that statement, so now people can watch me and follow me, even though that they have nothing to do or no care in the world for what they're saying, they just need to do it to get people, you know, and their attention. It's just it's it's a crazy world we're living in, and it's a world that uh I don't want to pass away, pass uh pass away. I don't want to pass away, but I don't want to pass off to my children without you know, at least fighting for the things that we could all agree on. I mean, right, if we're really honest with ourselves, we could agree on certain things, but politics have gotten so extreme that either you have to accept something here or something there, and there's no middle ground, you know. And unfortunately, we don't have a you know a country that has a third-party option or how's this for sight for for an idea, no party whatsoever. People actually, you know, support what they believe in because it's what they believe in, not necessarily what they have to believe in. You know, you have to pick one side or the other, so you're eliminated uh by choice, right? And then they say, well, you're not truly a Republican because you don't agree with you know these 80 things, you only agree with 55 of them, you know, and then you have someone on the other side doing the same thing, and you have, you know, and you see how obvious it is. You have Jewish people on the Democratic side that are supporting terroristic ideas that, if allowed, would you know lead to the destruction of their their own people on, you know, to the next Holocaust. And yet, where are those people sticking up fighting and protecting? And they're just protecting their own interest, and their own interest is more important than uh their own people and their own country. And that's clearly obvious by seeing what's going on with people like Chuck Schumer in office, and you know, Bernie Kanders, all these people that can be a voice of reason. And then you have people like in my jurisdiction, Lois Frankel, who's Jewish and Hispanic, and uh where she, oh, I see her aligning with the uh crazies on the left, and uh you know, it's just let's get to a middle ground where we could all agree on things. Let's try to work on, you know, they had remember. Well, I'm dating myself, but in the 80s they had Democrats for Reagan. Could you imagine they had Democrats for Trump?

SPEAKER_01 20:04

And that would not happen now. I mean, you'd see holy water boiling at every church in on the planet, probably. Yeah, I mean it it would it would just it would be it would just I don't even know how to fathom that we could start our own organization called Prostitutes for Monogamy and get more following Yeah, no, I mean you know I'm I generally I I depending on the issue for the most part, I'm center, depending on you, I can go either way. And you know, sometimes I post things people go, I had a guy on that was a fellow in the Obama White House, right? But yeah, I had him on because he specialized in the China policy, you know, and I'm like, okay, you know, and this guy's very pro-American. I mean, anybody who watched the episode would know he was talking about how America can, you know, we can beat China. This, but just because he was Asian on the thing, I was getting called a communist, uh Chinese Communist Party member promoting their agenda. And I would just go back and I'm like, have you actually watched it? Or are you just going because this guy's Asian on the thumbnail, you're you're thinking that I'm protot propaganda, and I'm like, watch it, and you might be surprised. Then then I had people from China going, You're a Western propagandist. And I was like, Oh my god, you know, and for me, it's you know, the one thing I can't figure out, if people are this frustrated, especially voters, you know, and no one's actually really doing anything besides folks like you to stop it. Why aren't more attorneys doing what you're doing? Is it money, the risk, the retaliation?

SPEAKER_00 21:32

The fear right now is one of the things that we're seeing. Um, that's quite scary, is that they're going after attorneys that are loud and proud, as I would say. Um, we see things that um I've never seen before. I don't even think that was even in the in the rules. Um lawyers that not only have they lost their license for unauthorized practice of law activities, but now above and beyond that, they're uh going after them criminally, putting them behind bars. And so you see that or a lot of lawyers, good quality lawyers are working for big law firms. And these big law firms say, you know, we agree with what you're saying, but we can't support it. You know, I've taken political cases to big law firms on behalf of the charity, you know, and I have attorneys that, you know, are a lot more right wing than I am that support just about everything that the president would say. And uh they said, I can't do this, pokey ukrained. Because the firm is adamant that you can't take this on. So what what what you really see is that the president has and people who have political ideas are limited to having access to the best of the best because, you know, the consequences, the perception. And this is not the country that, you know, we should be proud of. I mean, there's a lot of things we should be proud about this country, but uh there's a lot of things, a lot of things that, you know, for being the greatest country in the history of mankind, as they say, well, we need to get some basic things taken care of. We put more people in in jail for outrageous sentences, for crimes that they didn't even know were crimes, for prosecutions that are highly selective. I mean, that's not ground, that's not the ideology of a civilized nation. It's actually, you know, uh the opposite of that. That's what we're doing. It's like banana republic ideas that are mainstream in America. And people, you know, the hardest thing for me is as somebody who deals on the political side often, is to see that if you're a Republican and you see damage to a Democrat, whether they're, you know, losing a right, a fundamental freedom, and we could look the other way and say that's fine because they're a Democrat, or vice versa. We're no longer a civilized nation. I mean, the enemies in this country, the people that we don't agree with based on political understanding, or who's in office, or um, you know, one might think there's two genders, and the other say there's 92 genders, you know, the right to justify a difference in opinion and you know, not think that it's okay to penalize it or to not to think it's okay to to penalize or hurt somebody because they have a different philosophy than you. It's not the country I want to live in.

SPEAKER_01 24:35

No, I mean it it's it's it's frustrating, you know, and we are months away from the election cycle that could define the next decade. Rights are in the ballot, whether a lot of people realize it or not. You know, independent voters are the fastest growing bloc in America, really. I mean, and I believe the last poll was 43%. But the kiss the system, you know, keeps shrinking their options. Does it crack before 2026 or or does it hold? Or, you know, are they gonna are people gonna be able to like step in and go, hey, these are my rights?

SPEAKER_00 25:08

You know, what I'm hoping will happen is um when Trump ran and JD Vance took over as the vice president. I like JD, I think he's really um articulate, he's incredibly intelligent. I met him once in Palm Beach at a book signing before it was like in his late 20s or and uh so I still think of him as this kid. And then I was like, oh, there's the next candidate for president. But then I saw Marco Rubio and what Marco Rubio has done. And uh like you have Stephen A. Smith, you know, epitomizes everything that that that's great in this country. I used to can't I couldn't stand him when he was a sportscaster in ESPN. I thought he was mean jerk, right? Uh and I'll say that lightly. And then his he he he became political. And um, I don't agree with probably 75% of what he says, but I will fight for everything he says because I agree with his right to say it. And when he talks on uh Sean Hannity, I'm like, most of the time I agree with him more than Sean Hannity. But what he said and why I bring him up is that um he would vote for Marco, someone like a Marco. There is no one on the other side except maybe like uh a Fetterman that you know will cross over and get that independent voter. Um and that voter is the largest voting, you know, and this is why we could never predict an election, right? Because the Republicans will always vote Republicans, Democrats always Democrats, but these independents, I mean, it it's the most basic thing why they would vote for somebody, such as, well, the economy's doing better with this person, or I can't put food on my plate because of this, or you know, it's the most basic things. And uh, you know, you need somebody that can speak to that because that's like the majority, but has no voice or no platform.

SPEAKER_01 27:10

Yeah, no, I mean, Stephen A. Smith, I I don't agree with everything he says a lot either, but I've noticed he's very he's become very center as the months have gone on. And the one person who and I might get chastised by a lot of people on the right for this, that I have really come to respect in the last year is Bill Maher.

SPEAKER_00 27:30

Yeah, you know, I I was about to say that. If Bill Maher ran for office, I mean I'd vote for him. I mean I I I I wouldn't be so upset if whoever I voted for lost to Bill Maher.

SPEAKER_01 27:43

Okay, that's a better way of putting it.

SPEAKER_00 27:46

You know, at least at least he's you know what he said on um you ever watched that show with Seinfeld? It was comedians in cars um getting coffee.

SPEAKER_01 27:55

Yeah, Stephanie. I don't I didn't watch the episode of him, but I know which one you're talking about. I don't know the show you're talking about.

SPEAKER_00 28:00

Yeah, so it's on Netflix. It's it's it's you know he did a like a hundred episodes, and he gets these comedians, and they, you know, as the name suggests, they're getting in a car and then they go get coffee and they just tape this conversation. The budget's like probably like zero. And it's such a it's one of those shows that you can sleep, wake up, and you're not missing much, but it's enjoyable and it's good background entertainment. So it's kind of like other reality TV, which I'm discovering, just not to watch, but to put in the background.

SPEAKER_01 28:31

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:32

But he had uh Bill Mahr on, and Bill Mars, I mean, he's brilliant. I'll I'll give him that. I'll go on one tangent before I get back to this before before I forget. He had this whole conversation with Charlie Kirk about religion one time. You have to listen to that podcast because it is brilliant. I mean, somebody I met Charlie, I was on the board for turning points, so I I knew Charlie personally. I would, you know, from time to time he would call me and ask for advice, which was crazy. So I knew how brilliant Charlie was. And I could give stories after stories. And to have someone like Bill Maher to compete at that level of intelligence and to have the counter-argument against somebody who knows every single passage of the Bible, verbatim, and can explain with great specificity the interpretations and from different value systems and how they interlope. I mean, just incredible stuff. Now here Bill Maher on the opposite side. Wow, I mean, incredibly brilliant, incredibly. But going back to comedians and cars getting coffee, what was really quite interesting, in fact, um, out of all the episodes, I remember him while he was in the car, he wasn't even getting coffee yet. He said, you know, the left is so extreme to the left that they at one time being a liberal meant that you protect the voices that are unheard or underrepresented. And these voices shall all be heard so that you blend together as a society. But now they're concerned about the minorities that, if given the power, those people would want to kill you. Yes. And then, you know, then you hear things like queers for Palestine. Sorry. It's like I like I said, prostitutes for monogamy, it's the same thing. It makes no sense because the second aqueer goes into Palestine and they know that you're a queer supporting queers for Palestine, though it's like, let's talk about this. Let's go to the uh eighth floor of the this building, push, push you over. That's what they do. So at some point, you can't be so open-minded that you become closed-minded, you know, and all you care about is the minority representation to the point where, given the power, they will destroy you. And that's the opposite side of conservatism. But I I boil it down and what what we really do with the charity, and it's not left, it's not right, it's just three fundamental things for a society to survive. And it's the three F's. It's family, the family, not the government, but the family to count on when you lose your job, when you need help. If we encourage family values, you have family, that's one pillar. The second is freedom. Without freedom, we don't have a society. And the third is faith. Without believing that there's a higher being, it doesn't matter what your religion is, as long as your religion doesn't want to destroy the other religions or no religion at all, but you should have the ability to say, this is what I believe in, and this is why I wake up every day and uh why I go to sleep at night. And if you look at where money goes and the donations and where the most generous donations there are, time and time again, they're based upon faith. Well, yes. Catholic organizations, Jewish organizations. So all of a sudden, the government is shrinking exponentially because those three pillars are working seamlessly together. And that's what we do. I have a charity called the American Rights Alliance, and those are the three things that we're doing, and we're doing it fighting through the court systems right now and doing dealing with a lot of uh selective prosecution because it scares me. Because with selective prosecution, you have no freedom.

SPEAKER_01 32:39

Right. No, you don't.

SPEAKER_00 32:40

And so that's how we're dealing with the freedom side.

SPEAKER_01 32:43

No, it and you know, what's what's one thing people, you know, I know your time our time's limited. What's what's one thing people can do to support the American Rights Alliance and the website address again?

SPEAKER_00 32:53

It's the American Rights Alliance dot or G. The best thing to do is donate. And the second best thing is donate, and the third thing is donate. The reason why we say that is uh we we we we work with outside counsel at discounted rates, but cases are six figures, you know, one case, and we're only moving the dial very slowly because it's kind of like picking up water with your hands and trying to put it into a bucket. It's just so much that needs to be done, but we need to move things in the right direction. So, you know, a part of what we do is we're we're dealing with filings with the Supreme Court, what's called amicus briefs, and telling the Supreme Court things that they should consider about how they should decide a case, what unintended consequences there may be. Other thing are we see people in jail like Tina Peters, we have various other cases just like that or are being prosecuted. We've worked on getting a lot of January 6th pardons because, again, it's selective prosecution. It's, you know, you may say, well, it was an insurrection, I'll tell you why it's not. We'll go back and forth, but hopefully we can grab a cup of coffee or drink a glass, a pint of beer at the end, because we'll have a respectful, meaningful conversation. But at the end of the day, the one thing I think both sides of the aisle can see is there are certain people there that were prosecuted for not doing anything except walking through the Capitol building thinking that it was a peaceful protest. And yeah, there are outliers, there are bad people. There are bad people everywhere. That's why we still have locks on our doors. But a thousand people pass your house every day, not one thinks to open the door and try to steal it. But you still put a lock on your door because you know, all it takes is one. But we've done a bunch of pardon work and helping people after January 6th. We got this guy by the name of Dan Wilson at pardon because after he was pardoned, they put him back to jail because when they arrested him, they saw a gun in there that wasn't registered, but they would have never been there but for the fact that they were there to arrest him in the first place, which the president pardoned. So we we he got two pardons from the president within the last eight months, which is you know something I would never want to put on my my resume. Not one pardon, but two, because if we have an open and just society, we don't have to worry about pardons. But we've been doing a lot of work on that regard, trying to get Tina Peters out of jail. We got the federal pardon. It's just more of a ceremonial statement than you know, something to get her out of jail, although we try and put some legal argument to get her out of jail under the federal pardon system. But what we're really trying to do, uh, what really could help is just involvement. So if you can't donate and you can't donate and you can't donate, what you can also help is find people, round people up that can do events for us, dinners. And one of the things we're starting to do is, you know, having dinners like roundtables where you have people who can donate, and I speak up. You know, if you're an attorney, volunteer time, every lawyer can use pro bono hours. What better way to use pro bono hour pro bono hours and make a difference for society than using it for the American Rights Alliance? You if you don't have the ability to write a check, what you could also do is tell the world that we exist and need our help. And those people will find people who will find people to get the right help. If you have an expertise in something that deals with those three pillars, family, faith, and freedom that align with the American Rights Alliance. We're not a political organization. We're an American-first organization that just so happens to be dealing with a lot of things that have happened recently. So it's become politically, but long term we look at ourselves as the ACLU for America, not for special interests. We're fighting based on those three pillars. So you could find us all over social media. It's donate a R A or at ARA donate, depending on what your favorite social media medium is. And you could find us on the news. We have a show that we cover our uh our cases from time to time on Real America's Voice. It was something we founded, but uh we just use now to cover certain shows. It's called A Case for America, and uh we highlight some of the cases that we're working on there. It's four o'clock on Saturdays on Real America's Voice, which is if you have internet TV or I believe direct TV, you can find it really easily. If not, you could find it on your phone or on the computer at Real America's Voice. And just make sure that you know we are known. So tell everybody that we exist and we're here for fighting for you 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. And we're here to help.

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Oh, and I appreciate Evan. I appreciate you coming on and going back and going even deeper on this than a lot of people, right? Everybody, the links to the American Rights Alliance are going to be in the description. Go check out. You know, they're fighting a lot to help things that affect you, even if you don't realize it. And I'll leave it here. You know, if you've ever felt like the government keeps getting crazier and your voice keeps getting smaller, you're not paranoid, you're paying attention.