When Hollywood Asked Too Much

In this episode of Black, White, & the Red Letters, Ed and Cameron talk about what it really means to choose Christ over career. Cameron shares how saying no to compromise in Hollywood looked like loss at first, but became the seedbed for God’s deeper calling. This conversation is about obedience, lordship, surrender, and trusting Jesus with more than your Sunday mornings. Because when Christ is Lord, He gets the final word over everything.

Transcript

Speaker 0:01

Two guys. Friends, brothers, pastors, Jesus freaks.

Speaker 1 0:05

One's Lily White and formerly a good guy. Yeah, he's still recovering from that. And the other one's a Haitian-born actor who spent many years in Hollywood.

Speaker 0:14

So yeah, I'm thinking this ought to go well.

Speaker 1 0:16

Yeah. I'm coming and I'm in. And every week we sit down and talk about real life.

Speaker 0:21

And we do it without turning it into a Sunday morning sermon. We're talking culture, faith, purpose, scripture, and race and truth, and the stuff that most people avoid. And we're running it all through the words of Jesus. Dude, those red letters, they just don't play. No filter. No pretending, no churchy cleak. We're just having real conversations about a real savior. This is black, white, and the red letters. Hey, welcome y'all to another episode of uh of Black, White, and the Red Letters. Y'all welcome Camy Arnett, and my name is Ed Grifenhagen, and we're glad you're with us today. And uh a few weeks ago, uh Camy in in one of the episodes, he mentioned, as he was kind of sharing his story with us, he mentioned Christ over career almost in passing. And so I just want to ask you, you know, what what is what were you talking about when you said Christ over career?

Speaker 1 1:23

Well, you know, what what happened was I I was giving the testimony uh, of course, about what happened in Hollywood in the sense of, you know, the whole they wanted me to do partial body nudity thing, you know what I'm saying? Um, I had worked all my life, you know, when I say all my all my adult life, uh believing that this was what was going to happen, you know. I I you if you you couldn't make me, you couldn't convince me that it wasn't be my name in life, Cameron Arnett, you know what I'm saying, and blah, blah, that's uh anybody's gonna go to Hollywood, be a star, you know, get your Academy Award, that kind of stuff. And so when um by the time that I got to LA, I was a Christian man. I was born a five uh it was all about Jesus. People thought that I was there for the acting stuff, but I was really there because I wanted to be this God man, this Jesus man that I had fallen in love with and and saw in scripture that was possible for me to become. And so I'm in in Hollywood, and I get that first, you know, uh career possibility of being the star of my own show, my own whatever. And when they offered me the whole partial body nudity, and I said no, I didn't know at the time that this was the beginning of God really c I guess putting me the giving me the options to make true life-changing God decisions. And this was like the first one that really hit me to the point where it just revolutionized, turned my life upside down, or really right side up for the first time. And so I said no to the whole partial body nudity deal. And then I didn't know at that point in time that again, that it was a Christ over career uh decision. You know, I it wasn't hard to make a decision because I belonged to God, God was real to me, and God was mine, I was his, and there was no, no, no doubt in all of that.

Speaker 3:26

So intellectually, that was not a hard decision.

Speaker 1 3:29

Oh, it was not, I mean, it was not a hard decision at all. Once I knew that it was something that was outside of God's will, in the sense of God's word, uh for me, uh obedience is key. You know, I I just believe that we are we are saved by grace through faith, at the same time we're we're saved by grace, and grace changes you from the inside out and causes you, makes you a man as you present your body, as you renew your mind, you begin to think like him, believe like him, act like him, and and you, you know, as he is saw you in this world, and this kind of thing w had taken place in my life. And I I thought everybody who's a Christian would have made the same decision.

Speaker 4:12

It wasn't until Yeah, not so fast, Kim Osabi.

Speaker 1 4:15

Not so fast, dude. You know, naive me, right? And it was it wasn't until like years later, while I'm here in Atlanta, that I started teaching on this stuff that I realized, hey, when I when I told tell people my my testimony, I see the you know the the the atmosphere stand still in their lives because they would have jumped at it, you know. And so when I did that, I basically chose Christ over the career of being a working actor, being, you know, over the money, over the accolades, the prestige, and you know, all of what number one that I had already attained, but also what I would have attained through compromising my convictions, compromising what uh I saw in the word holiness, right? And so that was a moment. And so now, all these years later, as God, my my wife and I, we were pastoring for like two decades here in Atlanta, you know, this is way after California, way after, you know, marriage and way after all that kind of stuff, we started a church and we're into it. And I never thought that I was going to be out of the pulpit. You know, that was, man, that was that was life. And and I and I I loved it, enjoyed it, and wanted it and uh all of that. And so when I answered the call again, again, supernaturally, like I said in my testimony, supernaturally, God gave me a dream for one week. I'm having the same dream over and over again. Every night I'm having the same dream over and over again. And in the the end of that week, my wife is on my wife, got uh uh uh asked by uh some uh people which we didn't know were actually uh about a film, but they she got asked to come to a woman's tea. And so, you know, what do we know about women's tea? So she's like, I said, hey, go. You know, they invited you, go. And on her way there, she heard the Holy Spirit say to her, you know what? Um who I and I always have her say this because I've always misquoted, uh, who you who you who you want, who you uh who you want is so-and-so, but who you need is Cameron Arnette. She heard that just like she was like, What does that mean? So she gets to the to the T, and really why they had invited her was because they knew that we had come from Hollywood and blah, blah, blah, and had access to certain people, and uh, so they wanted this person for this role. And so they were doing this movie, and it happened to be a Christian movie, a testimony, blah, blah. And she heard that and she said, Oh, who you think you need is so-and-so. Who you want is so-and-so, but who you need is Cameron Arnett. And they were like, Oh, will he come? Will you do it? And so it just became this thing. And so she comes home and she says to me, They want you to audition for this film. And I looked at her like she had three heads, you know, because I she does not have three heads. I I have checked, you know, uh, and I and it I felt like I was being betrayed, to be honest with you. You know, here's my wife. I know she loves the Lord, I know I I love the Lord. I know I it's almost like you I felt at that moment she didn't know who I was, and so she Because that part of your life was over. Was done. Yeah, dude, it was so done. It was so not a thought in a sense of, man, I had found what I thought was my only place. I love to teach the word of God. I love declaring. I love watching Lies Spring, you know. I I love, you know, and so it's like, well, she said that I walked away from her and didn't talk about it, left it alone. Another week goes by, I'm having that same dream every night. I'm waking up, writing and everything else, thinking that that's what God wants me to do. At the end of the second week, he says to me, No, it's me, go to the audition.

Speaker 8:09

Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 8:10

So I go to the audition and I'm I'm still going under protest because I don't want no, see, I only had Hollywood in my head. God don't care nothing about your protest. God don't God don't care nothing about your protest, bro. You gotta go, you're not gonna scare, you know, you kick against the bricks, right? So I go to this audition and I'm going there hating that I'm going. And I get there and they hand me the sides, which is like the part of the script that you're gonna read from. And so they hand me the sides, and the character was the character that I that I was seeing in my dream for two weeks. The same character, same everything. The one that I was, I thought I was writing was the character that I was auditioning for. So it's really uh the revelation that God was showing me. No, I'm leading you to this. This is me, do it. But when I it I I and I said a couple weeks ago that I hate auditioning. I'm I I just, it's such a broken system. And so I went and I'm but I'm I'm I'm at this audition and I'm I'm doing stuff, I'm watching myself do stuff that I know it wasn't me. I'm not that good of an auditioner, okay? I knew I could, I'm asking questions, I'm I'm doing what, and I'm and I'm you know, you know how you look at yourself and you you you're watching your own video, right? And I'm like, what is going on? I'm having this conversation in my head while I'm I'm doing this stuff, right? And so I end up getting the role. First uh uh role, and it turned out to be a Christian film, and so it's my first role back at Christian, and I'm acting in a Christian film, and I'm playing the part of the lawyer, and all things is happening. Okay, if I do it, people have the accolades or oh my God, this guy, who is this guy? Who's blah, blah, all this stuff is going on. I see myself doing, I mean, uh, there was this one uh the first scene. I'm doing this um this summary uh uh as the lawyer in front of the the room and the the the um um what do you call the the jurors and all that kind of stuff? And the director says one word in my ear that just sets it off, and it was wonderful. He told me one thing and and and it just clicked, and I did the whole thing without stopping. And the room just everybody just stopped and applauded. I hadn't acted in who knows how long. And so God is doing this, and I'm watching this and I know that this is not me, this is a God thing. And at the end, I'm still saying, you know, us, man, you know, I said, Lord, if you if it's really you, because I don't want to chase it, I don't give me what you want without me having to audition. So now this is where the whole Christ over career really becomes in, comes in. So God starts giving me these roles, you know. I'm I'm getting the uh people are calling me that I want them to do this because they've seen, you know, stand your ground, they've heard about what I've done, blah, blah, blah. And I'm getting all these roles. I'm rolling I'm working, I'm working, I'm working, I'm working, I'm working. And then so one day, you know, my wife and I were uh we were, we we did this local show, uh Atlanta Live. Atlanta Live.

Speaker 11:23

I did that three weeks ago. Okay.

Speaker 1 11:25

So we did okay, so you, so so you know, okay. So we were we were interviewers for about six to eight years on that show. Really? Yes. Okay, okay. If you go back into the archives of of Atlanta Live, you'll find us, we were regulars, okay, it's her and I. And so one day, during that orchestration of things of God, that how God does, there were these guys that had made this film. And see, I'm I'm doing all these Christian films now, you know. I'm still I'm working, but there was these guys that had done this this film that hit the airways. Everybody was like, who are these guys? I mean, it's almost like God exploded onto the scene called the Kent the Kendrick Brothers.

Speaker 12:11

Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 12:12

Those guys. Okay, those guys. Yeah, those guys, you know, and so Facing the Giants had come out and they're doing their media tours. And so my wife and I are on Atlanta Live, and who do we interview? We interview Stephen Kendrick, Alex Kendrick, and Michael Catt. So we didn't, you know, they don't know us from Jack, okay? We're meeting for the first time. They're, you know, they're everybody's trying to get with them, blah, blah, blah. And in all honesty, at that point in time, my wife and I had our pictures and resumes, especially my picture and resume, right? We or we were gonna like, hey, give our uh, hey, this is who we are. We want to work with you, do all this kind of stuff. And the Lord said no. So we kept, we we we never introduced ourselves, we never showed them a picture resume, we never asked for anything, because the Lord said no. So that was a second really part of this movement that I that I didn't know God was doing. So, you know, again, the Kendricks, right? They these guys painstakingly do whatever God says. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? They they, I mean, we have now that we know them like friends, now that we know them that we're part of what they do, their families and everything else, we we we have been blessed to be around them and to see real time the this the decision-making process to follow God. It's beautiful. And so we said we we, you know, he said no, so we didn't do it. And with them, you because they wait on God to tell them what to do, Facing the Giant comes out, and all is, you know, and all this accolades doing all this kind of stuff. Then the next film was what? Um Courageous. Courageous came. No, no, no, it was Fireproof came out. Fireproof came out, so they only do it like every three years or whatever. So Fireproof comes out, courageous comes out, war room comes out. So that's three, six, that's nine years. Nine years go by. Is that insane? Nine years go by, and I'm in and I am in the theater watching War Room, and I am bawling. Are you bawling because you could have been the the guy in the middle? No, no, I'm no but but no, no, because I mean God said no, I wasn't even thinking. I'm telling you, I I'm so grateful to God because what what he has made me to become is like the people that he's put me around.

Speaker 14:46

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 14:46

You understand what I'm saying? For sure. And so, and so, but I didn't we didn't, we hadn't seen people like that. Do I dare say that? Until that point. I didn't we didn't experience people who painstakingly followed God and obeyed him until that point. Not to this extent.

Speaker 15:16

When I have become Met over the uh in 2018 and then until now and spent a lot of time with those guys, I had never seen the sort of the same thing where every decision is generally doesn't take five minutes. It may take eleven months or you know, or 12 months, or and it is let's pray about that. And when the Lord leads, we'll make the decision, but we're not gonna make a decision until then. And and um I've been walking with the Lord now for 25 years, but I've never it it sort of changed ultimately it changed my prayer life being around them because now I'm not as quick to go bear because I'm an evangelist, and if there's a lost person on the other side of the wall, I want to run my head through the wall. And I'll still run my head through the wall, but when the Lord says, go run your head through the wall.

Speaker 1 16:12

And and some and sometimes that that's not your fish, and that's hard to deal with.

Speaker 16:17

No, but I want to catch it.

Speaker 1 16:18

I know that's what I'm saying. But but sometimes, and and that's the thing, we we you know God's got a fish for everybody, and so sometimes that's not your fish, and that's part of the difficulty of really hearing from God, obeying him, to let whoever is that fisherman take care of that fish. Oh, yeah, you know, and so everything, you know, everything may be good, but it may not be right for you. But that's that's another story, that's another podcast. But anyway, so I I'm I'm nine years go by, I'm bawling in in this theater because I'm watching black people being handled like just people.

Speaker 16:59

Oh yeah, because that movie was mostly all black cast.

Speaker 1 17:03

And it was it was just a movie about people. You know, and in in in the secular world, they call it a black storyline. And if you're gonna have a black storyline, it's gotta be about this.

Speaker 17:19

Oh yeah, that's so bad.

Speaker 1 17:21

That's so insane. And so we saw people being people that just happen to be black. I balled my eyes out because everybody that looked like me had to be a thug, a killer, a rapist, or this and a that and a this. That's all that's out there. And we were told that if it's gonna be black, it's not gonna be successful. That's all we ever heard. And he was success on the screen.

Speaker 17:55

And that movie was wildly successful.

Speaker 1 17:57

Wildly successful. Okay, so he was success on the screen by people that looked like me, that were just people written by some white guys. In the south. In the south, in the south, by the god of the universe.

Speaker 18:17

Absolutely.

Speaker 1 18:18

You know what's what I'm saying? And so um that that that goes on and and and everything else is and so one day, while I'm I'm still doing movies, doing whatever, I'm whatever, and then one day I I'm I'm on on the board of of uh ICVM, which is a a uh conference, and so I had to go to um from Atlanta, I had to go to Nashville to set up this this uh ice cream social for where we're you know part of the convention. And so if if if you've ever been to the Gaylord uh uh small place. It's just this little tiny little Taj Mahal kind of place, right? And so, you know, it's huge. And so I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm going over there to set up, and I come through, and and it took me, it took God two hours. I'm I'm at the uh holiday in like about a mile and a half down the road, and I'm talking to my wife on the phone, and I'm saying, baby, I don't want to go. I'm tired. I had I had driven from Atlanta to to Nashville. I was beat, and I'm saying, it took, I'm I'm telling you, I'm trying to convince my wife that it's okay for me not to go, right? And so it took two hours for me to for God to get me out of that room. So I get out of the room, I drive over to uh to the uh um uh parking lot that's on the back end of the convention center. So I I'm going to the back door, I go up the escalator, and my foot hits the pavement of that big old square of, you know, and I hear Cameron on that. And I'm like, and it's Alex Kendrick, way on the other side, and there goes that video again. And I'm like, what in the world is going on? It did Alex Kendrick just call my name.

Speaker 20:01

And it had been years since you've seen him. Dude. From a nine years, yeah.

Speaker 1 20:05

Nine years, nine, three movies, nine years go by. Didn't even know I was on this man's radar. Didn't know that this guy knew anything about me at all. It was like gone from the, you know, all I was doing was enjoying these movies. And so my foot hits the pavement, camera on that. And so I'm walking over towards Alex, and I'm thinking, I'm like going through all these scenarios in my head. What glory? I'm talking to myself, I'm talking to God, I'm like, I'm watching the video, I'm what you know, you you're walking, and and it's just surreal. And so I get there, and um I he said, Hey, what are you doing in the next 10 minutes? Because I gotta do this interview, and I gotta talk to you. So I'm standing in there, I'm talking to John or when I'm talking to uh uh uh uh Kevin Downs and we're just talking, and I'm meeting these guys for the first time too. And so he comes out, takes me to uh have uh lunch or dinner, whatever it was, and it tells me the story of Overcomer.

Speaker 21:03

So this is what, around 17 to 13.

Speaker 1 21:06

This is 17, yeah, exactly. He tells me the story of Overcomer, and I'm bawling. Because you know Alex. Alex is so expressive, he's so good at what he does. He's just he's just telling you the story, and then he gets the point of of what happened at the end, and I am crying my eyes out. And then he goes, Oh, Cameron, I think you're it. What I didn't know is that they had been vetting me for like a year and a half.

Speaker 21:32

That's just what they do. It's just what they do.

Speaker 1 21:36

Because they make sure that when the mic hits your mouth, you're gonna be talking Jesus. You're gonna be living Jesus, breathing Jesus. Because that's who they want in their films. And see, I knew nothing about that. But see, what what God revealed to me there too is that yes, I didn't really see someone or people that were living like that. I didn't realize I was living like that. And so when he connected us together, it just became a yeah, this the atmosphere just became right. But after I did overcome her, and you know, I played this, you know, the the the um um Thomas Hill and Blind and everything else, and so again, very successful, all these kind of things, you know, accolades, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, about this film. But when the interviews started happening, and it was really out of a quote unquote secular interview, that we started talking, they started asking me questions and started dealing with, you know, what happened in California, what was happening here, blah, blah. And I gave them the testimony that I've given here, and it was out of the secular media that said, Oh, you chose Christ over your career. And it stuck. And from that point on, everybody that interviewed me picked up on that line, on that Christ over career. It became the aha. And it became my aha. I didn't realize, because see, to me, it's normal, and that's what happens. To me, this is what a Christian does. He chooses Christ over everything. So it wasn't an aberration, it wasn't a thought, it wasn't a, and it became it, it to them, it was like, oh my God. But it wasn't until after I started teaching in festivals and churches and after overcoming people know who I was and they'd bring me different places and I'm teaching that I realized the quest the decision that I made, every quote unquote Christian wouldn't have made. And that's when it really started to take a um life of its own. And God gave me the quote, Christ over career is calling the church back to the Lordship of Jesus Christ, making him and keeping him at the helm of every decision. And so the whole thrust of this now is to let people know it's not Christ or career, it's Christ over career. God doesn't care about all this other stuff. He just wants, if he owns you, he owns everything else that you that you do.

Speaker 24:25

So you that that word career could be a blank and whatever goes over everything.

Speaker 1 24:31

All right. It's not it's not you know exclusive to entertainment. If you're a truck driver, if you if you sweep the floor, if you want, whatever your career is, whatever it is, and and I and I and and then when we we think about career, because mammon, money, mammon is that false God that makes you think that you have an authority or that you are an authority, and you must make mammon your slave, and mammon wants to make you your slave, and career is where we think we obtain mammon. And so we're given six days to work. So it's not like it's not in eight, it's not in us, it's just that that work of six days is still supposed to be subordinate to that one day.

Speaker 25:16

And isn't it isn't it cool that because you said, I don't know, 15 minutes ago probably, you said when you were beginning to talk about uh about Christ over career, you said, and you said it a few times you chose Christ over career. You chose and all of that that choosing began with the newness of life.

Speaker 1 25:43

Yes.

Speaker 25:44

When you were dead, scripture would say that we were not spiritually sick, we were dead. We didn't have a spiritual cold, we were dead. Um and I know when I baptize people with in water, um and when I raise them their heads back up out of the water, I always say the same thing. You're raised to walk in the newness of life. That's right. And so you chose because when you were saved, you got this is a word that I made up, but you yes, your heart was transformed, but you got a new want to her. Yeah, your want to, it changed.

Speaker 1 26:19

Yes.

Speaker 26:20

And so when you look at that decision and you're like, you even said it a minute ago, um, it was easy. That of course, like you would say, of course that's what I chose. That's what you do. That that's what you do. Yeah, but the world will look at that because they do that to me too, and they'll like your testimony is amazing. You probably think it's not that amazing.

Speaker 1 26:43

No.

Speaker 26:43

When people tell that to me, yeah. How did you get how did you choose Jesus? How did you, you grew up Jewish, how did you do like that? Must have been hard. But when you get your arms around the truth of the gospel, like it's not hard.

Speaker 1 27:01

It's not hard. It's it's the unraveling, it's the fallout that occurs. But the reason why the fallout occurs is because you raveled your life into this thing that you thought was right. And now rightness shows up, and rightness has to dismiss everything from your life that you thought was the right thing. And so it's really God giving you life by taking away all the death that you put upon yourself. You know, when we look at it from the right perspective, it's like how how refreshing. But as a human, we're going through it from the front to the back and we don't see it. But when we look at it from the back to the front, we thought, oh, it it was the grace of God, the love of God that allowed all this junk that I had put together to fall by the wayside. But it doesn't feel good when it's falling by the wayside. It's like looks like death is going to happen, but actually it's life that's budding for the first time.

Speaker 27:59

Because he wants you to have life and not just any old life, but abundant life. That's right. And and he is, I love the word disruptor. Oh my gosh. He is a disruptor. He disrupts it all in the very best of ways because the junk that falls off, that while temporarily be painful, it needs to fall off.

Speaker 1 28:21

Yeah.

Speaker 28:21

And it needs to be disrupted. Um, because what what he fills you with, and you don't even know how good it's gonna be until he's there. Yeah, you don't know how good it feels to be filled with the Holy Spirit until you're filled with the Holy Spirit. Yeah, people can tell you all they want to tell you, but until it happens, you just don't, you just don't realize it.

Speaker 1 28:46

Well, he's a personal God, and you know we I know we use those terms and people don't get it, but he's a personal God. The goodness that God reveals in me, for me, through me, is not necessarily the same goodness that he reveals in somebody else. Because what is good for you, what is good in you, there is the uh uh what all of us, you know, become. It's like if we're taking a look at at the kind of man we should be. So God within his word shows us, reveals to us, causes us to be transformed by the renewal of our mind as to what a man is. And so that is true of all of us. We all come to that. But what we're called to do or to fulfill as that man is individual. So all of the goodness is not all the same. It's all good, but it but there's a particular goodness. You know, it's like, hey, God gave me BJ. God could tell you what kind of what husband I should be, you know, all of this traits and everything else, but only the Holy Spirit, I mean, that's what the word tells me, but only the Holy Spirit can tell me who my wife is. And so there's that goodness is just for me. And so all of that is kind of what happens in this process of life, is that you begin to make those God decisions, and he unravels all of the junk, all of the um the issues or or processes, or even the what may be good for someone else, but is not necessarily right for you from you. And that allows the what is right for you to come into your life, which is now your personal goodness that he's doing in and for and through you.

Speaker 30:42

And only he can do that. So today, 2026, what is Christ over career as a ministry? What is that, what does it look like?

Speaker 1 30:54

Yeah, Christ over career now as a ministry is the coming to fruition of me as a man of God with the platform of film and television declaring to the world global world and calling the world back to the lordship of Jesus Christ.

Speaker 31:17

So it's all about lordship.

Speaker 1 31:18

It's all about lordship.

Speaker 31:19

I was sitting over here praying that you were gonna use that word.

Speaker 1 31:22

It's all about lordship, you know, because you can't be savior unless he's Lord. And so we and again, we we talked about uh uh I think a couple of weeks ago too, about, you know, it's not the words, it's the meaning behind them, it's the heart, it's the belief behind it. So, you know, when we say, you know, calling the Lord the church back to the Lordship, we're talking about that relationship in which he is now the head, the boss, the the everything of you, the individual. So now that he can bring every good and perfect thing to pass that he intended in and for and through your life. And that's his goodness and his rightness for you. And what a phenomenal thing we get to experience by giving ourselves to him that way. And that's what Christ over career is all about. It's now because again, when we take a look at Christ over career for for me personally, we we see in my testimony how it looked like I lost everything when I made that decision that I wouldn't do partial body nudity and I and I chose him over my career, but I was planting that seed which I didn't even know. And all these years later, I mean, I planted one television series. All these years later, God gives me this back supernaturally 80 films, seven different television series without the audition process.

Speaker 32:49

And so, you know, you and you couldn't say back up 25 years ago or however many years ago it was, did you lose something? Of course you did lose something. And in the throes of the loss, I'm gonna guess that you at some point probably walked outside, looked up and said, Lord, like what are you doing?

Speaker 1 33:08

What's going on?

Speaker 33:09

And and sometimes when I do that, he's like, shut up and let me be God, you know? And and if you trust him, and if he is Lord, not over just your Sunday mornings, and he's not Lord just uh over your prayer life, he's lord over everything. Yeah, you know, I tease people, he's Lord over your finances, he's Lord over everything. I'm like, well, I got saved in 2001, my checkbook got saved in about 2006. But but he, if he's Lord, he's Lord over all of it. And if you trust him, you just have to know that he has been in the redeeming business for a long time and he's good at it. And he redeemed that career that you were passionate and loved a billion times better than what you lost.

Speaker 1 33:57

Oh man, I I can't even begin to tell someone the difference of what my life is now and what he's done as opposed to what was. The the difference is uh otherworldly. You know, the experience that I am now having as a man of God who is belongs to him totally in this realm of arts and entertainment, to realize that this is what he chose, and I'm living out what he chose and watching it blossom into what he desires, and it has nothing to do with me uh choosing something else over him. I'm I'm just grateful for that.

Speaker 34:47

So you have a Christ over career website?

Speaker 1 34:50

Oh, yeah. Well, as a matter of fact, if people want to go to Cameronarnett.com and on that page, they'll see all that has to do with Christ over Korea. So if you want to get in touch with me, if you want to get in touch with Christover Korea, just go to Cameronarnett.com and then you'll find it there.

Speaker 35:05

Cool. Y'all check that out. Well, thank you for telling us all about that. And I encourage y'all, if you're listening, that we're surely not saying that your career, your vocation is not important. We're just saying Jesus is more important.

Speaker 1 35:20

That's right. And if if you give it to him, he'll you'll have actually what that career, what that vocation truly is meant to be in your in your life.

Speaker 35:28

Boom, there's a mic drop moment. So look, we we appreciate y'all being with us today, and we will see you next week on Black, White, and the Red Letter.

Speaker 1 35:37

The Red Letter.