Aloha Alive: The Dawn O'Brien Podcast
Why Aloha? the whole world knows what aloha is--love in Hawai'i--but better to ask WHY ALOHA? the answer is as essential as breath & as fun as whistling, so LET'S GO!
Aloha Alive: The Dawn O'Brien Podcast
E19 ~ Best S*x Everrr: Aloha S*x!
Wanna have best s*x of yr life? Start here! 1st: make sure it's not just full body but full being... What? Dave Willweber, Onipa'a gives answers including...
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• P*rn*graphy influences
• Who's making $$$ of yr sex life?
• Parents as primary sex educators, & Onipa'a as "special ops" support
• How sexual health brings generational blessings, emotional & $$$ stability
• "Aloha sex" defined
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Aloha and welcome back to Aloha Alive. I am especially delighted today to be dealing with the topic we're going to be dealing, and this is a sexually successful youth, onipa'a to stand firm, stand strong with me, a brother I've known for decades and in some of the thickest battles spiritual battles in the state of hawaii, and it's pastor, dave will weber aloha, don.
Speaker 1:How's it my brother, so good, yeah you thank you so much for your aloha for our aina, for our land. Aloha for our keiki, our children. Aloha for our aina for our land. Aloha for our keiki, our children. Aloha for Ohana and for Keakua. Now you are, and I'm just going to get right into it, because this topic it sold itself. I've heard sex sells, but here we go you taught the best sex class I ever attended. That's not actually saying much, because the last one was in the 80s at Hilo High School. So I'm not just joking, no, but it was. It was pretty phenomenal Given the world that we live in, the Kardashian culture we live in and we were just talking before we started about how you know, Instagram is a big problem for men who have eyeballs right and even Christian men, so we live in almost like a fish tank full of sex and smut. If I'm just going to say it blunt, because Jesus is coming soon, I ain't wasting time Now tell us, because you've taught the best sex class I've ever taken, what is Onipaa?
Speaker 2:taught the best sex class I've ever taken. What is Onipaa? Onipaa has many levels to it. So there's the Onipaa class, and so that would be. We teach sexual risk avoidance for optimal health and healthy family formation. So unpacking that there's so many risks out there big time for kids, adults who are sexually active outside of marriage and marriage. Lifelong loving marriage is our gold standard. So the world throws at us safe sex as in condoms and contraceptives. We actually teach true safe sex, which is keeping all sexual activity within a lifelong loving marriage. So outside of marriage, we would want to practice abstinence, saying no outside of a lifelong loving marriage, but inside. Woohoo, rock it right and so it's actually a very positive message.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Right. So it's not just scripture, it's science speaking. Because you just laid down some pretty hard things. For most, I would say 99.9999% of the world just went. What the heck did he just say? And why did he say that? Why would I want to save myself till marriage? That's kind of an old way to have said what you just said, but it is what you just said.
Speaker 2:It is. I love quoting the kids At the end of the class we talk about you know what are your takeaways? And during the class. So this one girl who had been sold a sack of goods when it comes to sex, right Sexually active, she sat through our clear and compelling case of keeping all sexual activity within a lifelong loving marriage. And I said what are your takeaways? She said sex connects.
Speaker 2:So leave it to the kids to come up with a bumper sticker that says what. It takes me two hours to communicate in a clear and compelling way, but kudos to her right.
Speaker 1:Two words Exactly. Sex connects.
Speaker 2:So there's so many different ways to tackle that, but there are actually bonding hormones that are released with sexual activity. So in males it's vasopressin, in females it's oxytocin, and they're serious about the lifelong part of a lifelong loving marriage.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:So our bodies naturally want and crave just one person, right. And you can see, when somebody chooses maybe the wrong partner and it gets sexually involved outside of marriage, well then what happens is now we're bonded to that person and if it's the wrong person, that can lead to toxic relationship, trauma, abuse, and we all know Auntie So-and-so who's wanting to get out of that relationship and you know she says pow already, you gotta go. And then finally he leaves and he comes back with flowers and I apologize and she takes him back. Why those bonding hormones?
Speaker 1:The oxytocin for the woman and the vasopressin for the men.
Speaker 2:It's real, and so what's meant to be good for a good, healthy, loving sex life that's mutually beneficial can actually, when used in the wrong context, it can actually damage us.
Speaker 1:Wow, they become chains. You become in bondage, almost definitely spiritually. But also physically, literally, with chains in your own body the oxytocin and the vasopressin.
Speaker 2:Absolutely so. We don't talk about sex being a full body experience. We talk about sex being a full being experience.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow that every part of me is connecting with every part of my wife, because that's where I practice sex.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow.
Speaker 1:We are also a soul, which, when I was teaching in schools, especially in high school, a soul is your head and your heart it's your thoughts, it's your emotions, it's your will. So you're a body, you're a soul and you're a spirit. I kind of simplified it into three parts. I can't see your soul.
Speaker 2:I can't see your spirit.
Speaker 1:But I know that they exist because God is spirit and he created you in his image, to be a spirit so full being Full, being experience. So, explain.
Speaker 2:Well, when you first of all, let's look at two bodies literally are coming together with the completion of the reproductive system. But we know it's not just two bodies, it's two persons. So first of all you're talking about two distinct, different bodies coming together as one body when the two come together sexually, so that's just the physical aspect, but really that's like symbolic of all of these other invisible bonds and unions.
Speaker 2:So, when you look at I'm going to say the gift of sex. Its total design is to bond two people together, and that's where it can be so beautiful, especially within the safe context of a lifelong loving, healthy marriage. Right, that's where you're going to have your optimal best for everything Relationship, love, connecting and so, really, you start talking about the unions. So in the teaching we actually build a fireplace and we have to ask the kids hey, you guys know what this is, because they don't have no fireplace in their house, right?
Speaker 1:In Hawaii.
Speaker 2:But they've all seen a fireplace and so we talk about the bricks and it's all the different ways that there's a union of coming together emotionally, socially, mentally, spiritually. Two families are coming together, right. There's a financial union that comes together Big. Two vocations are coming together because you're supporting one another in marriage, right, and, if you know the Lord, you're on mission together. There's a missional union right. So really, the advice to older adults that are married man and strengthen all those bricks all those unions, yes, and then the fire can burn brightly and safely, because those unions protect and keep sex beautiful and and so.
Speaker 2:so, if I could just talk really quick, what are the? What are the kids get? They get counterfeit versions of that. Oh, come on Right.
Speaker 1:Counterfeit like counterfeit cash of that, oh, come on.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Counterfeit like counterfeit cash is not real. It's a ripoff because it's worth zero.
Speaker 2:So porn, I believe, is the number one teacher of sex to all kids.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Right. So what are they learning? They're learning fake sex. Yes, it's just two bodies that are coming together, slamming, and then they leave. And then two different bodies come together and then they leave. And then two different bodies come together and then they leave. And then the two different bodies come together. Right, so what are they learning? First of all, do you see marriage in that?
Speaker 1:Not at all.
Speaker 2:No. Do you kids? No, no. Do you see a wedding? No, no, none. So all of the, the beauty and the best of it.
Speaker 1:It's not there. It strips you of a union the marriage it strips you of children and it strips you of a home absolutely sure sex without any of these beautiful treasures God-given gifts Exactly Is a ripoff.
Speaker 2:It's a counterfeit. It breaks us down to just a body.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:And unfortunately for the female primarily, it's a body to be used, and then you start looking at the dark side of pornography and how many of those ladies have been trafficked and then they're threatened and abused on set if they don't perform. And so what you get is like totally fake sex it is. And then what about the person that's looking at the screen? What's that? How do you have sex with the screen? Right, right, how do you have sex with?
Speaker 1:the screen Right.
Speaker 2:Right, I mean. So we're just removing more and more the humanity and two beings coming together, wow, right. So technology can be a great thing and when it comes to sex, it can be one of the most destructive things because, especially our males we are visually wired.
Speaker 1:Sure God made you that way.
Speaker 2:So all it takes is like a quarter of a second for an image to get implanted in our brains.
Speaker 2:I went to go catch lizards when I was age seven and what I caught that day was pornography. That's at age seven and that was before the cell phone. So I look at that and nobody had taught me, nobody had warned me. I didn't know anything, and so these images are getting into my mind and my heart and it's giving me an idea of what sex is and, quite frankly, I didn't even know what I was looking at.
Speaker 1:Why would you? Because you're a child you're seven years old. Interestingly enough, I've seen some of the studies and the reports on this and it's saying that the average age of onset or exposure to a child for young men nowadays is around seven years old. Back room of, I guess, like a bookstore or something, to get these special magazines that were encased in plastic and the covers were hidden, but nowadays it's right here on the ends of their fingertips in cell phones.
Speaker 2:And it's coming after.
Speaker 1:It's on TikTok, it's on Instagram, it's on right Facebook, it's on a lot of things, and our children are being exposed early to what I call the Kardashian culture.
Speaker 2:Okay, wow, dave, yeah, and the first experience with porn really is not a kid going to find porn, really it's porn finding the kid.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:And whole technology is so insidious. I've gotten to porn from Facebook Marketplace when I'm not looking for it.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're a Christian pastor. Your whole ministry is anti. It's sexual purity, anti-smut.
Speaker 2:Yep, yep. And since you brought up the word purity.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:One of the. We do not emphasize purity, mainly because the message that we offer is one of hope. So I thought about you. It's the dawn of a new day, and that's what we want to communicate to these kids is that today is one new day, new day right that, no matter what's happened in the past, like after we make this clear and compelling case that the best context for sex is a lifelong loving marriage, all of a sudden, any kid that has had any activity.
Speaker 1:There's stuff that's welling up, whether it's an exposure to TikTok porn or whether it's even a molestation as a young child, or if they chose to get sexually active in junior high high school. As many youth are, that there's still hope.
Speaker 2:Dave, exactly, and the reason I brought up the purity thing is what is that kid hearing when we say pure, it's impossible? The kid, that's been molested, or the kid who's made a mistake, and so usually at that point I'll just say okay, anybody who is already engaged in any sexual activity. Did you have this clear and compelling teaching before you chose that? And the answer is no.
Speaker 1:We had the opposite of that, the exact opposite was being screamed from the rooftops all around the world through magazines, music, video games right, I mean, you name it and and I had some, some young people my nieces and nephew and their uh middle school and a freshman in high school sitting with them on sunday night talking about disney plus, and the family, due to some financial decisions, decided to unplug. Then they went back because the kids said, no, we really like some of the programs. They got it back, you know. They subscribed again and the kids were offended. They said they saw things on there that were extremely questionable. This cannot be a cartoon for children. This is a ninth grade boy and he's not an innocent kid by any stretch of the imagination. He grew up in this nation with our media, and so is his sister, who's in seventh grade and middle school, and they were offended at how sexual the content was.
Speaker 2:And that's wonderful, that they caught it, and that's a big skill that we want the kids to learn, because they're being sold a bill of goods to your point that is counter.
Speaker 1:that's the narrative being shoved and this is their words exactly. I feel like it's being shoved down my throat. That was their words, not mine.
Speaker 2:And it's loud and it's continuous their words, not mine. And it's loud and it's continuous, incessant in their face all the time.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:And so that's where we teach, actually, from the quiet voices. So the number one voice that we use actually is the human body, and it's amazing. So you already heard me talk about oxytocin and vasopressin but when you look, for example, when we look at the male reproductive system and the female reproductive system and we start asking the kids, first of all, it's a dialogue with these kids, it's not one person up here, it's not a talking head.
Speaker 2:We go eight hours where they are speaking sexual truth, true truth, and we're writing it up on the board and they can see all of their mana'o. That is true, Wow.
Speaker 1:And it's amazing.
Speaker 2:So when they're a little bit off, we just ask a different question and guide it until they say true truth. So, for example, I brought up the male reproductive system. We'll ask the question what's the most important part of the male reproductive system?
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And so there's a lot of those loud voices out there, right, and those loud voices would say the penis is the most important part. I can't say that here, right.
Speaker 1:Yes, you can.
Speaker 2:It's biological so we're good, and we say it in the class too right, you have to, so we're good and we say it in the class too right Because the kids you have to. But the kids we say we take this part might be awkward, but our job is to take the quird off of awkward so that you're left in awe right, aww.
Speaker 2:So the loud voice would say the penis is the most important. But if we were really to let just the body speak, it would be the testicle. And we'll run through the questions what's the purpose of a testicle? To produce sperm. What's the purpose of a sperm To impregnate an egg, and what does that give you? A baby? So then we'll say the testicle is so serious about a baby that the average healthy male will produce 1500 sperm pregnant. Pause every second, holy.
Speaker 2:And so you start adding that up, that's 150 to 200 million sperm that's being produced by a healthy male every single day. And so you ask yourself is the testicle serious about life? Yes, Very serious about life. So again, go back to the fake sex that they get in porn where there's no kids, yeah, Right. And and the kids that get into a sexual lifestyle because they've been mentored by porn. They have a baby, and then they hear a voice saying get rid of the baby, of the baby. That both of those go completely opposite against this silent voice of our body, which is actually silently screaming babies, babies, babies, life, life, life.
Speaker 2:And you do the same thing with the female reproductive system. What's the most important part? The ovary releases that egg. What's its purpose? To be fertilized. What does that bring? A baby. And so you just see this, this beautiful union. And so, when it's lifelong and loving and healthy, it's so life giving. Yes, right, and that's what it's meant to be. It's meant to be so beautiful, and that's why these, these kids, after they've been through this they're're, they say this is mind-blowing, this is eye-opening. So, actually, the kids that we enjoy teaching the most are the ones that have been sexually active, who have been sold a bill of goods with all the loud screaming voices, because they're the ones who get the total huli of a mindset.
Speaker 2:I love that huli of a heart set, and huli means flip them, yeah, so everything gets flipped and they see that sex is actually this beautiful thing.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:May I say one more thing?
Speaker 1:Please yes.
Speaker 2:So I'm a dad of two girls, right? So my heart goes out to the girls especially.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 2:And so when these girls report to us the girls that have been sexually active I didn't know I could say no, that they now, and I just looked at some feedback and they said this has given me confidence. Come on, this has given me confidence that saying no is a good thing because I'm protecting myself and I need to take care of my body. So that's the conclusion that the girls come to after this teaching. Without us even saying it, they just know from listening that they are valuable and that's one of our premises that every kid is valuable and every kid has the right to be protected.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And under this teaching they are going to be protected and they're going to realize how valuable they are. And one more thing a no to sex now means a yes to better sex later, right.
Speaker 1:The best sex, which is where we started off with, which is what I said and I wasn't joking, I I mean, I made a joke out of helo, high blah, blah, blah, because it is kind of a little bit, but, um you, I really meant it, seriously that the best sex class I have ever taken. You can go on my instagram, you can go on my facebook and you're gonna see me. There's a photo of dave teaching in front of a whiteboard with all the terminology and how it comes down Like he just did, and it says best sex class ever.
Speaker 2:Cause I want people to take it Is what it was. Yes, with four.
Speaker 1:R's. It's like when um Kelly boy de Lima from Copena says brah and there's like four or five are brah. You know brah. And there's like four or five are brah. You know it's more serious the more r's there are in it.
Speaker 1:Um, that was a mouthful and just to recap a little bit, I'm really glad we still have three hours on this, because we can easily talk about this for three to forty hours I sent him the questions for real, full disclosure and he said don, this is a minimum of four to six hours and I was like between you and me it's, that's small potatoes, come on. But I asked you about onipaa. There is a website. If you're watching and if you have to rush off, you know you're going to come back and watch. But there's a website onipaalife, wwwonipaalife. What I love? Two things I want to highlight about what you just said, sir, was number one.
Speaker 1:Sex is a full being engagement. It's spirit, soul, and then it's the body, and then also it's. I heard you saying it's a discussion, because you have in these seminars or trainings, or I don't know what you want to call it classes, eight, eight hours with students. I can barely hold them for eight seconds. But you're discussing, it's not a talking head.
Speaker 1:You and I grew up with Charlie Brown and the teacher sounded like that, because that's what teachers sound like after eight seconds to a TikTok IG generation. You got to catch them quick and keep it really good forever. Like you have to have content, they will. And I don't like this book or this author, but Harry Potter is a really long book. It's like three 400 pages. Kids love Harry Potter. That's not eight seconds, but it's got compelling content. And what I'm hearing with you is you have compelling content and you present it as a discussion so they can ask you questions. And last thing that I really like, I'm adding a bonus because I can um, you especially love the kids who have already transgressed. They've already gone into the sexual lifestyle, but they got sold a bill of goods and now they're hearing way, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute they see what it's really about if sex connects sex connects.
Speaker 1:Please thank that girl that is yours seriously your bumper sticker all right. So this is what onipaa is. What inspired the movement? Was it the fact that you were a seven-year-old boy finding pornography?
Speaker 2:that's a big part of it. Yeah, yeah, that upsets me. Yep, it upsets me too, because it happens to a lot of us, absolutely, I remember finding my uncle's pornography stash and back then it was magazines under his bed. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I was with my cousins. It was their dad and mom. I love him to this day. He's family. But like you said, I was not looking for porn.
Speaker 2:We were playing hide and seek, it was looking for me Exactly, so I'm thankful that you're there to counter that. What else inspires Onipaa? Yeah, so, so we have about 16 teachers amazing people, so out of the 16,.
Speaker 1:Four of them did it all right, right, no, the right way, and so that means 75% did not do it right, and so those 75% one of them was trafficked.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow. Two have been raped, at least one violated by an older person, two sex out of wedlock and then just other mishaps. So you start looking at that and you start thinking of how bust up we got the 75% of us. And it's because nobody had given us a clear and compelling message right Back in the day. It was the idea of a sex talk. Throw out the idea of a sex talk.
Speaker 1:That's how my dad we're having the sex talk Super awkward, Super.
Speaker 2:What Super awkward Very. Like trying to cram in like one hour of content when there's been no preface I think they had 15 minutes.
Speaker 1:My sisters went, they came back. I was like what was it? Yeah 15 minutes.
Speaker 2:So really, parents today need to be thinking 101 minute conversations and ongoing dialogue. You know where you're engaging the content of the world, watching a movie together, or hey, what?
Speaker 1:happened at school today.
Speaker 2:Social media, all those things we're shopping natural conversation pieces so, but none of us got that clear and compelling version, and so then we all 75% of us had dabbled in the other way, and that is what drives us, because I'll ask the kids do you think that I wish I could go back with my 55-year-old self we're the same age 55-year-old self and go talk to my 16 year old self. You better believe absolutely and so kids can I do that?
Speaker 2:and they say no, but what can I do? And they all say you can teach us yeah so they get that when we share. I'm getting chicken scalp now yeah, um, god bumps, amen.
Speaker 1:So we're not created in the image of a chicken. Those are God bumps Right on.
Speaker 2:So when we end up sharing our story, we're sharing it so that they learn from our mistakes. Right, absolutely, because it's Akamai to learn from your own mistakes, but it's more Akamai to learn from somebody else's mistakes. Absolutely when you don't have to experience the consequences.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And so they see us being vulnerable. They see that we care about the kids. They see that we're in it for them, for their health, for their value, for their future, for their marriage, for their babies, their ohana, the generations leading to a strong. Hava'i Nei a strong enough Hava'i Nei that can bless other nations right For nations and generations.
Speaker 2:So you might remember this in the 80s we were told what happens in the bedroom doesn't hurt anybody else, it doesn't impact everybody else. Well, now that I'm 55, I can see that what happens in the bedroom impacts everybody, everything else and everybody.
Speaker 1:That was a big lie.
Speaker 2:And so this is the big thing that I'm now using when I teach the kids. So I mentioned the fireplace keeping all sexual activity within the fireplace of lifelong loving marriage and this compelling, clear argument that that's the best place. But then we say, kids, if you have sex outside of that, what are the risks and consequences you can have? And they'll list 25 things wow and it's not hard for them to do, because they see it here and they feel it here.
Speaker 1:Yes, they do.
Speaker 2:With their peers. They know it Maybe in their own ohana Right with their parents and even what they've experienced right. So we look at that and then we look at the contrast. You got the consequences, but then you got the rewards of keeping it all in marriage, and after that we're like is that clear? Do you need more Right? It's so clear.
Speaker 2:But then here's the kicker that's starting to make them mad. We'll take the consequences and I'll ask them now which ones of these cost you money? And so just recently, right, they put STDs first and then I asked them does that cost you money? Yeah, so who makes money off of that Healthcare system? Okay, the next one they put down was emotional damage or depression.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:Does that cost you money? Yeah, so you got the mental health profession that's making money off of you. And then there's a whole lot of these. One is drugs to compensate for the emotional damage. Does that cost you money? Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:So if you're on drugs, how is that going to do with your job? Is that going to cost you money? Wow, and so you can see that really, on that side, there's this emotional financial drain that just takes you down and down and it can leave you totally impoverished in poverty. And so that's when we will say to the kids do you think that some people want you to make the wrong choices so that they can profit off of you?
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And the answer to that is yes, and they know it.
Speaker 1:Wow. It's eye opening, mind blowing, I can. I'm repeating what the kids are saying about. I'm sorry, backed up. I'm repeating what they're saying. It's mind blowing, it's eye opening because it really is. And you're sure all you're doing is shining truth. You're just shining the light on what is being hidden. Like you said, it's that counterfeit and it's a sexual narrative that's out there and you're gonna flip the script that's the goal we're gonna huli maka, flip this thing, huli this thing.
Speaker 2:And we're doing this for Hawaii. That's the thing I want everybody to see. So even tutus should care about this. Yes, parents definitely should care about this. Love it and we're like special ops, right? Yes, because we teach this all the time, so we've gotten really good at it, but we're not the parents of the kids that we teach, and that's really important, dawn we're not the parents of the kids that we teach, and that's really important on, and that's where I was driving.
Speaker 1:I was saying I'm sold I obviously love this program. I myself went through the program as an adult just a few years ago. I think it was 2019 2020 like that and so I said it was the best sex class ever. Now, now that we're sold on onipa, how do we do that? I mean, do you just teach kids? Do you teach the parents? And I read on your website to be spoiler alert.
Speaker 2:Here's the spoiler the parents are the primary educators, as you started to lead into Correct why where did that kid come from right? 23 chromosomes came from dad, 23 chromosomes from mom. There is a connection there, again out of the union. And so there is a connection of parental kuleana and authority that the parents have for that child. Absolutely, we don't have that. We are special, have that. We are special ops that come in and can teach stellar and can change mindsets. But we are not the kids' parents. The parents are the ones who have sacrificed, invested. Nobody cares about those kids like the parents, and so we don't want to come in and say, hey, we'll teach your kids that. That disempowers the parents. In fact, in today's world we don't want anybody teaching the kids about sex because most of them are not helpful.
Speaker 2:No, and I'm including even in the church yes and so I want parents to do their due diligence, and so what we will do is we will offer one or two parent information sessions before the kids' teachings, because we want the parents to hear this language. Okay. So, parents, do you agree with the language? Does it fit within your Ohana values? If it does, okay, send them this way. But we want you to ask us the hard questions to make sure that we are in line with your values, and if we are not, don't send your kid there. That's great, right. But then the third part of it is when the parents hear this language. That's the best, because the parents are going to still be with the kids and they can process this ongoing language with the kids.
Speaker 1:You're using the same terms, the same terminology.
Speaker 2:Amen, and the best of the best is when the parents actually come to the class and take it with the kids. Yes, and so obviously that's easier with middle school. Sometime when they get into high school, they're kind of like Mom Dad don't come. But we're okay with the parents coming anytime, because that's their kuleana, that's their authority.
Speaker 1:It should be an open door.
Speaker 2:There should be absolute transparency. Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1:So you're not preying on their children. We are praying for their children and empowering them. That's huge. So there's parent seminars or training, then you also do the discussions with the kids, and then there's what I call fun days, like you just recently had when I was posting about working in the Lo'i, the tarot patch, and spending the day, and I think you used that kind of as an allegory.
Speaker 2:We did so you might have already caught on that we teach from the body and we say that the body speaks. But what we all know in Hawaii is of of a tea leaf plant right, and so I'm just going to describe it to you the makua, the parents and the keiki.
Speaker 2:In the middle, a vine wrapped around so tight that it looked like this I've seen it, the kupuna out here, the tutu tutu man, were free and alive, but for how much longer? Before that generation dies? And this generation that has the vine that won't open, it's going to die before the kupuna. That has the vine that won't open, it's going to die before the kupuna. So the aina was speaking to us that generations are under attack.
Speaker 2:The keiki are under attack, but not just the keiki, but parents. So that's what the aina is teaching us, right? But then if we can keep the kids from ever having any sexual counterfeit, wrap them up, tie them up to choke them to death, right, then they're free.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Then we have generational freedom. Wow, we have free thinking individuals who know that a no now means a yes later.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So a no to all that junk stuff that we listed. The people trying to take money from our bad choices Right, we say no to that for the healthy and the good. So actually we are creating free thinking individuals that some people in the world won't really like.
Speaker 1:We'll just let that lay. And the children who have been trained to do critical thinking will figure out what he just said. I love that and that came through having a fun day outside, like in the kalo, and the lo'i.
Speaker 1:Do you know? I love that picture you just gave of the tea leaf plant that was being choked out. I call that the devil weed Because I used to go to my sister's house in Hilo and I would spend all day because I actually enjoy weeding. I don't know why I compare it to Satan, but she had that devil weed all through her backyard and as much as I would try to pick it, I would come back the very next month and it had taken over the yard again because we weren't getting to the root and it was choking out all the productive fruit plants, vegetable plants, you know, beautiful flower plants. Thank you for doing that with them. But they catch that because they are a visual generation and they need to see it and they need to experience it.
Speaker 2:And they got angry. In fact, I learned a big lesson, because it was we saw a whole canopy over a bunch of tea leaves. We couldn't even see the tea leaves, so I started yanking. Yeah, see the tea leaves.
Speaker 2:So I started yanking, yeah, and then I heard tearing and I'm like, oh, by pulling off the weed I just tore the tea leaf and in my intent and my heart to free the tea leaves, I actually hurt the tea leaves. Now that was a major lesson right, that we need to handle these matters sensitively and gently. When we're dealing with sex and the loud voices that are out there trying to choke the kids, we got to deal with it sensitively and they got to see our compassion and see that we care about them. So then I slowed down and it was a Hana Kako thing. We were all in it, angry, yet dissecting all of these pulling them off.
Speaker 2:And then, after we pulled them all off, we went and sat under a tent, had some Kaukau and then we opened it up. What did you learn? What Mana'o did you have? Because the Aina was teaching the kids so good. You can do the same thing in the low e right. With kalo right, you don't have to fill the whole kalo with families. You plant. You plant one kalo here, one there, one over there, and it naturally multiplies if you keep the weeds out.
Speaker 2:Yes, keep the water flowing the cobiola right yes, so the aina can teach us so much, the human body can teach us so much.
Speaker 1:And it's experiential learning, exactly.
Speaker 1:Sorry, I backed off, it's experiential learning, which this generation really needs to be moving. It's nice to do as he was just saying. It's a kakou thing. You hana together, you work together and they're learning. Alongside there's sweat equity. My dad used to force us to work the yard all the time. Right, it was part of our chore thing, and he also forced us to work uh newspaper with him, which I absolutely hated. But he said oh, brian, a lot of elbow grease never hurt anybody and we're irish, so that really counted a lot for nothing for me, but for a lot for him but it turns out for great character development.
Speaker 1:So we've got the parent seminars, we've got some student trainings, and then we also do the fun days where we learn together. Um, I'm going to ask you a point blank, real simple question, because we're going to start bringing this in for a landing, but there's so much goodness. This to this. Thank you, um. And it is available to all people to go through the training, whether you're a parent or a kid, is it?
Speaker 2:is there what's?
Speaker 1:the charge.
Speaker 2:So right now, nothing. No charge to parents, no charge to organizations.
Speaker 1:Whoa free. 90. Free minus the 90. This is free, free. Free in where the spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom, it's free. That's the best F word you're ever going to get when it comes to sex. Is you want the freedom of Christ there? I had to pull that in really fast because I kind of started going left.
Speaker 2:Okay, what are the benefits?
Speaker 1:of choosing optimal sexual health, you kind of already glanced on it.
Speaker 2:I did but go back to all the junk consequences and then all the good consequences. So we didn't talk about the good, but it's the exact opposite of the junk. So we already talked about that. We are multifaceted beings, so that means that every part of us can be as alive as what should be right. Right and and then, when you practice healthy relationships, healthy love, keeping all sexual activity within a lifelong loving marriage, practicing unions right where the sexual union is only it's, it's like set apart for that one person that your body says it only wants one.
Speaker 1:And to complete, the reproductive system.
Speaker 2:It's just we actually make the kids say that right, it's one and one. We have the kids say that right, so the body is speaking One and one and done Exactly One and one, and done so good. Don't go there, because everything else is a counterfeit and a lie. But you start thinking about it, even financially. Right, If you're not dealing with emotional damage, you're dealing with emotional health. You're able to because you care about your babies. You, you work and a man works and provides right, Right, Um, I you have a team.
Speaker 2:You're not alone as a single parent In it cockle together and you do what's best for the kid.
Speaker 1:And it's best for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1:It's a win-win, everyone wins situation. It's not just you as an individual, but you as a couple and you as a lahui, or the community, exactly.
Speaker 2:And then you start looking about generational blessings.
Speaker 1:Come on now. Come on Because.
Speaker 2:I talked about that financial drain, that goes down. Yes, you can have a generational wealth that actually grows and we can actually afford a house in. Hawaii of all things.
Speaker 1:Right, Right To dream the impossible dream but it's possible when you have a hui, when you have an ohana, when you've got a group of people who come together to make that dream real.
Speaker 2:When we're not dumping our money on people that don't care about us, but the money actually can be used for our Ohana that we care about, and then there's always enough to go around that we can actually care for others right To bless it forward.
Speaker 2:And there I just talked financially, but same thing generationally, like my dad basically got orphaned when he was 10. You know, his dad was an evil, evil man. I never met him, but he was basically orphaned at age 10. But because he stayed together with my mom, not in a great marriage, but they refused to give up on each other. Right, we say that the perfect marriage is two imperfect people who refuse to give up on each other.
Speaker 1:That's right.
Speaker 2:So my dad, orphaned, stayed together with my mom 56 years before she passed last year. Both of my brothers and I have much like, significantly better marriages than my parents. And because of the overflow right it's not just a financial overflow, it's a love overflow, it's a health overflow, it's healthy relationship overflow we were able to hanai a special needs daughter who was orphaned at age a year and a half. So you start looking at that that's just one ohana, but that's just one ohana in the lo'i right of Hawai'i man. You start looking at it that way and we're talking about we could have not just a dawn of a new day, we could have a dawn of a Hawai'i-ne right.
Speaker 2:Hallelujah and Hawai'i can be so strong and vibrant and healthy and prosperous and wealthy that we can bless other nations the way that we were originally intended to right. We're in the middle of nowhere, but in the center of everything.
Speaker 1:And that would be Aloha Alive the podcast that we're on, because it's life in all of its abundance. So much life and so much giving and winning. You can give and bless to others and it comes with. It doesn't even have to be a super majority. There's a book that's written about the tipping point. It 10, 11 percent and you got a tipping point that's gonna just like a waterfall. It's gonna funnel like a snowball, which we don't have in Hawaii except Mauna Kea. You just are going to pick up steam and move and be bigger. I love this Pastor, dave, or I'll just call you Dave because you're with Onipaa. So thank you, onipaalife. That's where you can look it up online. It's wwwonipaalife, and they don't do instagram because too much questionable content there.
Speaker 1:Thank you for being honest, brother, and thank you for honoring your bride your wife and your home all the way down to your daughters, which I am um. I was raised by a single dad, so I appreciate when we have daddies of daughters who really keep them sacred and secure and safe. Just to recap the full, not the body, it's the full being you have, not just. It's not about sexual purity, but it's about a sexual power because you have optimal sexual health by choosing one lifelong commitment.
Speaker 2:And the body will do the rest. But we have to be intentional about keeping that relationship safe and set apart and we don't overpromise. To the kids we say this is your best chance at best sex. It's good, but we don't overpromise, it's not automatic. You're talking about you're one person and they're another person, so you're talking about two people. You're not talking about two bodies. It's not automatic like in the porn, which is a total lie. You're talking about good sex on Friday. Is you serving one another Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
Speaker 1:And you're treating each other well, with love not just love with your mouth, but love with your life, taking out the trash, washing the car, being present at the soccer games. Right, sex starts a lot before the bedroom.
Speaker 2:So are you going to close?
Speaker 1:I am pretty soon, but I have a couple more questions. Sure, any last thoughts? Dave, there was that one.
Speaker 2:Because you were going to ask my idea of aloha and I know nobody's ever talked to you about aloha sex.
Speaker 1:Well, that was my last question I was coming to, so now that we're both on the same page with that, because Dave gets really excited, I get really excited. This was an exciting topic, but we always ask our guests a final, last question and that is what is aloha to you?
Speaker 2:Well, and I don't want to just talk about aloha. Nobody's evera to you well, and I don't want to just talk about aloha. Nobody's ever talked to you about aloha sex, have they? No? Okay, so my understanding of aloha in the, in the sense of its deepest meaning alo, kind of face to face, in the presence of ha, right, the honi, honi, forehead, forehead, and breathing out the ha, the, the spirit from one breathing in. And so if you look at animals, most animals approach sex not face to face, not in an all low way, it's from the rear.
Speaker 2:I don't mean to get too graphic, but it points out the significance. The significance and how special human sexuality is that the most common position is a face-to-face kind of honi-honi alo, you're right. And then when it's loving and respectful and you're showing, you're giving dignity to one another, right, then the ha from one another it's not just external, like literally becomes internal. Wow, that it's life giving. And so isn't that exactly what Keakua did to Adam? First of all, he honi, honi-dom, right. And then Adam was to take that honi, honi, and then honi, honi, eve, yes. And then it would just be this continual honey, honey of giving of life, never death.
Speaker 2:That was never in there, no, and so that's why we just got to get back to maka ala, eyes awake. What leads to life? Yes, in regards to sex. What leads to life? Because the opposite, the counterfeits, lead to death and destruction.
Speaker 1:Mind blown. I wish I had an emoji over my face right now with my brains coming out of my head, because I have never thought about aloha sex. I have said aloha probably every day of my life. I grew up mostly here in the state of Hawaii, aloha state. I have done and seen sex. I have never put those two together. That God created us to have sex in such a way that we honor each other.
Speaker 1:It is an ultimate altar of complete intimacy, and he made it to be face to face, breathing in one another, each other, dave, mind blown best sex class ever. Right here, dave will weber and he represents onipaa. It's online at wwwonipaalife. If you're going to be looking up a questionable website, let it be onipaalife, because it's going to bring you a lot of life, as he just said. Thank you for that, brother, and I just want to thank you that a lot of times and this is a blessing, I hope it's a prophetic word a lot of times in the state of hawaii, you and I have fought against certain evils and we have stood for the god of love and the god of light. Yeah, and this is the best battle I've seen you do, and that is saying a lot, because we have fought and swung swords side by side against the evil one. But this is the best one because it's the abundance of life through intimacy for the whole community.
Speaker 2:Amen, and it's solutions, solutions, I I've. It's exposing the junk stuff. Yeah, only gets you to zero yeah people need to get from zero to 50. Yeah, and so this it's almost like when you start just talking 10, 20, 30, the positives of sex all the junk stuff the kids just can spot we, we lose our flavor for it the taste and I'm like brah, bring it. Yeah, you don't need to feel every counterfeit bill, you need to feel the real bill.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And then the others just prove themselves counterfeit.
Speaker 1:Right that you wouldn't even want it. And back to the fireplace analogy that sex is a fire. It is a gift from God fire and it's beautiful. It's the most amazing thing when it burns in the right place, which is in the fireplace. Try burning a fire anywhere else in the house. You'll burn that house down. So let's go get that wildfire into the fireplace. Onipaalife, I'm Auntie Dawn, this is Uncle Dave, and there you got it. Aloha sex, yeah, you.
Speaker 2:Choo.