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Overcoming Addiction, Prison & Houselessness—My Sister’s Keeper
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She came out of prison with no title, no money & no plan yet still built one of the most practical, faith-forward outreach efforts in Honolulu. Triciaa Maʻae-Liupaono of My Sister’s Keeper is now under the nonprofit under the umbrella Reckless Love. It's all about addiction recovery, houseless outreach, housing life lessons & serving people who've been written off by everyone else.
Tricia shares *miracles* -- like watching women break free from heroin & fentanyl to stay sober. Or a DMV driving test with no car, a prompt to ask a stranger for help & a brand new vehicle offered on the spot.
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Welcome And Meet Trisha
SPEAKER_02Aloha. Welcome to Aloha Alive. I'm Auntie Don O'Brien, the hostess with the most us for his highest. And today with me is one of my Sunga sisters who's in most of the housing and with the houseless. It's my sister's keeper, founder, operator, and superhero Trisha Maani.
SPEAKER_00You had to announce me like WWE wrestling, huh?
SPEAKER_02Well, we've had a few really funky times, but we'll get to that. And maybe never. I promised it would we would get to it in a minute. We ain't gonna get to that. So, first and foremost, what is my sister's keeper?
The Birth Of My Sister’s Keeper
SPEAKER_00Um, so my sister's keeper first started off um just you know, us women coming out of prison. Um, and we just were trying to stay out of prison. And a few of us women got together and just was helping one another, you know, find jobs, get our documents, just really hanging on to each other um to stay out of jail. And um, it just kind of stuck with us as we started giving back. Um, the name just, you know, carried on with us.
SPEAKER_02I was there in the beginning. We met on the inside. I sound like a baddie, but really I was ministering, prison ministry. And I would always offend the crowd. You when you go to prison, you really want to offend them when you get started. And I offended them every time because I would say, um, I've committed enough crimes and enough sins that I should be in here, but I never got caught. And that went over like a bag of bricks, as Grandma O'Brien would say, right? Trisha, you remember that? And then it would get real quiet, but then I would minister the word. Um, we met on the inside, and then you came out and we saw each other. I believe it was at New Hope Leeward, where you first came to hear me speak on the outside, and then we just became quick buddies again because I'm always like, I'm gonna get a nick tack, I'm gonna be like all the rest of the prisoners. She was gonna bring that up. None of the prisoners are ever complimented. So offend them and then offend them again. Try to double down. It's like double tap. That's another thing. Okay, that's from a video game. Anyway, back to the point. Um You started by saying in the beginning days of my sister's keeper, we were in ministry. It was with Pastor Alan Cardenas on the West Side, and you heard about a ministry called My Brother's Keeper. Shout out to you guys. However, she got offended, and she's like, What? My brother's keeper? What about my sister's keeper? Huh? Who has that going on? Who's watching out for us coming out of prison and women's correctional? And that's how my sister's keeper started. Like the little irritating grain of sand that gets irritated and makes a beautiful pearl. That's what the irritation did. Is now it's a beautiful pearl of ministry, Patricia. Um, it didn't quite start. It didn't quite. That's not the way I remember it. That's the DOB version. The D-O-B-V. Okay. Yeah. All right. Um, please share with us as part of my sister's keeper. You folks minister not just to ex-inmates from the women's correctional facility, but you also help a lot of Keiki or children in our housing, like KPT.
Outreach In Kalihi Public Housing
SPEAKER_02You're inside a lot of the housing right here in um Kalihi. What exactly do you folks do when you go on outreach?
SPEAKER_00Yes, we do a lot of outreach in Coil Park Terrace, KPT, Camphor, uh, Merrow Rites, and Kawiki Village. So mainly like the town area is where um in the heart of Kali. Our presence is. Yeah, because Kalihi, as you guys know, there's a lot going on there. The youth is in desperate need of um Jesus. Yes, pretty much.
SPEAKER_02And we do have, if you are watching from the outside the continent, or other countries, there are a lot of gangs in this area. We are the islands, we are the Aloha State. But let's be real, there's poverty, there's crime, and unfortunately, there are gangs, and they do start harvesting or recruiting from I think last I heard there was a fifth grader at Kalihi Elementary that had gotten into some things and then lost his life as part of gang activity. Now, all of that to say this, you're in housing and you also work with houseless, correct? Which is the homeless.
SPEAKER_00Yes. What do you do with that? So we have a outreach called Feed the Streets, and we go out into the community every Mondays and Thursdays. Monday we go to Wahiwa Waipahu, and Thursdays we go into the town, Honolulu town area, and we do everything. We go out there and spread the word, uh, spread the gospel. Um, we do wound care, we give hot meals, um, cold, ice cold water, um, clothing, just basically just meeting them where they're at and basically providing love, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Right. I love this. Um, can you tell us about a miracle that you've witnessed as part of your ministry so far? And
Street Ministry And Real Miracles
SPEAKER_02how long have you been in operation?
SPEAKER_00So uh when God really called me to go, um, it's been like full-time go. It's maybe been about three and a half years. And I just been going, you know, going for Jesus. And uh um one of the miracles I would say that um I've saw, I mean, there's been so many miracles um serving, you know, in the streets and in the housing. But I think probably the miracle that I would really stick out into my mind is, you know, seeing these women that I've, you know, known from either prison or just known from the streets and like full-blown drug addicts, you know, um heroin, um, fentanyl, and then seeing them, you know, just being redeemed and transformed by the power and the love of Jesus Christ. I think that is the most powerful and impactful thing that um just touches my heart because um there's nothing that can take, you know, do that but but Jesus. And these women are going cold turkey. And I don't know if anybody, you know, has been on drugs, if you've been on drugs, but you know that it is hard to break that cycle. It's darn near impossible. Come on, it is impossible, and um the battle, it's really it's literally a a battle for your life, yeah. And um, to see them just turn from it, like a 360-degree turn, and um you see who God created them to be. Not no more of that, um, just no more of that that evil that was on them. You now see a light, you see a freshness about them.
SPEAKER_02And you see hope.
SPEAKER_00You see hope, yes, and uh, and who who really who God created them to be.
SPEAKER_02One of the thank you for sharing that because I think there is such uh a magnitude that we don't understand possibly, people like myself who haven't had drug addiction on how impossibly hard it is. Yeah, and that you really are fighting for your life, as you just said. You are you're fighting even as addicted as you are, and you may have children as I've met some of the women and at Camp Agape. And um, I remember one time when we were at WCCC, the women's correctional facility here on Oahu, and we we were already involved in volunteering at Camp Agape. It was just about Christmas time, as I recall, and we were sharing with some of the junior mentors who are have parents in prison that I we were coming to the women's correctional facility, and one of the kids stopped and he said, Auntie Don, I'm I and he was he was a really skinny small boy. He said, Put me in your put me in your bag. I want to go. I said, I'm sorry, you have to be a certain age limit to get in. And he goes, Then put me in your bag, I wanna go. And he kept insisting and insisting, it got to the point of tears for this little boy. And as much as it broke my heart, I couldn't bring that little boy inside the women's prison to visit his mom for Christmas. We went in, and Trisha, you remember this moment you were there. Um, and I started to share that story in front of about 300 female inmates and the ACOs, all the guards. And at the very moment when I shared that, that there was a little boy who insisted I pack him into my Bible, into my Bible book bag, and you can't take anything. One woman stood up and she said, That's my boy. That's my son. I was startled because normally you don't have somebody interrupt you while you're preaching or sharing testimony, which I was the MC that night. Pastor Roy Yamamoto was going to share the message. We had the worship team, and I looked around, and I think I looked at you, or I looked at who happened to be your sister-in-law, and she nodded and said later to me, that was his mom. And to this day, that has to be one of the biggest miracles I have been a witness to. That a mother who should have no idea that that was her son happened to be the very one who wanted to come into the prison with me just so he could hug his mom and see his mom for Christmas. That was one of the big miracles. Recently, as we talk about miracles with my sister's keeper, and yes, you minister to women coming out of prison so that they can survive. You minister to houseless or homeless, as they call them here in the state of Hawaii. You minister to Micronesian youth and poor youth. You're also helping so many other churches and areas. You go back into the prisons and you've been teaching Bible study. Tell us about the time you just shared with me as we were hanging out the other day. Um,
The DMV Car That Appeared
SPEAKER_02you were taking a Micronesian young man to go get his driver's permit.
SPEAKER_00Um, so when God had called me to do this, you know, um I I don't have the title of pastor or anything like that. You know, I don't have um titles. I'm just a woman that came out of prison that came from that lifestyle. And so I don't have things, I don't have a certification, a degree. I don't have money. I don't have been trained. Yeah, I don't have none of those stuff. I just know what it's like to come from that life.
SPEAKER_02Come on.
SPEAKER_00And when God had called me to go, you know, I just I didn't know how he wanted me to do it when I didn't have a car. And so when I was helping these kids to um, you know, get their driver's license and stuff from the housing, I was like, okay, you want me to take these kids to go get a driver's license, but I don't even have a car to do it. How do you want me like how is that supposed to happen? Yeah you know, and in anybody's flesh mind, you know, like in human standards, it's it's impossible. In regular thinking, you need a car to go get a car driving test. And but with God, all things are possible. And when he called me to go, he asked me if I was gonna trust him when as as I go, would I would I trust that he would provide, would I trust that he would lead me and guide me? And so I went, you know, and even the two boys that I had taken, you know, they were looking at me like, how are we gonna go? What car are we gonna use? And I was like, We're just gonna pray, you know, like we're just gonna pray and and ask that God will provide and trust. And one boy looked at me and was like, What the like he started swearing, he was like, Man, and he got so mad, he walked off, and the other one was How old are these guys? One was um 17, no, one was 18, the other one was 20. And I I looked at um, but I knew I've known these kids since they were like 15.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00And I looked at them and I just said, We're just gonna have to pray and trust that God is gonna provide. So the next day was their test, and that night, you know, they're calling me up all the way to like 10, 11 at night, and I'm sitting there literally in my prayer room praying, like, God, you know, you said that you'll make a way. Come on, that you'll provide, that you'll make a way where there seems to be no way. And I'm going back in my mind trying to like make sense of this.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Like, how am I gonna do this? Do you want me to cancel? Do you want me to reschedule? And if you don't show up with to the appointment, or if you don't cancel it within 24 hours, they have to wait two months till they can get their driver's license again. And so I'm just sitting there praying, and all of a sudden, you know, God just tells me to go, don't cancel it, just go. And I'm like, what do you mean? Like just show up? Yeah, with no car. And so we go all the way down there to the DMV at when it was at Sheridan, and we go all the way up. And there, the boys are still asking me, ma'am, what car are we gonna use? I would be asking you where we what like what are we gonna use? And I'm and I'm trying to like have this conversation with the Lord. Lord, like we're the next one in line. Where is the car? And it's almost like the story of Abraham, you know, when Abraham had to take the sacrifice when God told me. And he's waiting like for the sacrifice. Where's the ram? And we get up to the to the counter, and the lady says, Okay, where's your paperwork? And I gave her all my paperwork, and she was like, Where's your where's your vehicle? And I say, Lord, you you said you'll provide, you said you'll make a way. And right at that very moment, I told the lady, I don't have one. She was like, Well, like, she looked at me, and the boy, you should have seen the boy's face. They looked at me and like, see what I mean? I told you it was gonna come all the way out here for nothing. That's what these boys were telling me. And I heard God's voice so loud and so clear and said, Ask the lady behind you. And I said, What? Oh, and I'm sitting there, I said, What? And I said, No. And he was like, Ask the lady behind you. And I'm like, Oh, and the boys are like over there, and the lady's over here, and I'm just like, I turn around, I go, Would you mind if I use your car? And the lady looks at me and she goes, sure. No, sure. And I go, Are you serious? And it's a stranger, did you know this person? Stranger. No, so when when the when that lady said that, the boys looked at me and their jaw dropped to the ground. And then we we give them the paperwork. And as the boy goes, right, takes his test, I'm sitting there with that lady and I asked her, I say, you know, what you know, what made you, you know, uh let me use a car? And she said, Well, my sister needed, my sister needed to get her driver's license. That's why we're here. And so I bought that car so she can take her car. And I said, Wait a minute. So that's a brand new car? And she said, Yeah, it's a brand new car. And I said, So you let a total stranger, a a young boy who doesn't even know how to drive, who don't have a driver's license, use your car to take the driving test. And she said, Yes. You know, she he she said, why not? I mean, she needed a car, right? Come on, Jesus. And I knew that that was God. And like, wow. It wasn't, and at that moment, I felt like God was telling me, you know, Trisha, it's not just about the testing of your faith and your obedience, but what it did for those boys' faith. Come on now, you know, what it did for those boys' faith, and what it did uh, and how God was magnified out of that situation.
SPEAKER_02Holy smack down, Trisha. An absolute stranger gives you a brand new car for this young Micronesian man. Yes. What was their response afterwards? Were they in shock? Did they see the face of the living God?
SPEAKER_00I I believe that their faith in God was um just magnified, and I believe that the hardness of their heart was um a little bit softer after that happened.
SPEAKER_02Well, and we know that the book of Isaiah says the word of the Lord shall go forth and it will not return void. In other words, God has return on his investment, his ROI is God guaranteed. And so you may they may not have come back and singing the hallelujah chorus. However, like you said, to soften that heart where I can't even imagine watching you turn around, ask a complete stranger and her to say yes. So thank you for magnifying the Lord in that situation. This is just one of the miracles that Sister Trisha was sharing with me the other day as I checked in with her on how my sister's keeper is going. At the time, she was my Uber driver. She does hustle on every scale and at every aspect. As many of us who do ministry know that we are bi-vocational or we do ministry and we go have to make our own money, like the Apostle Paul, who was a tent maker on the side. She is an Uber driver on the other side. That's another miracle story you kind of shared. Oh my gosh. Because you also have culinary um skills. Can you share about meeting somebody who Jehovah Jira, God our provider, provided to bring you to teach the young people how to cook for themselves?
Cooking Classes Fueled By Provision
SPEAKER_00So um, I also do the baking and cooking classes. So when, okay, I have to go back to when God had called me to go. Okay. Let's do that. And he broke it down. You know, I was I had all these questions, like, you want me to go, Lord, and I don't have this, I don't have that, I, you know, I don't know how to, I don't know how to do this. And I said, What do you want me to do? And he basically just told me, use what you have, use already the gifts that I have already given you. And I was thinking there, like, okay, what are my gifts? And I was like, wait a minute, I know how to bake and go because I was a pastry chef, you know, I got my culinary degree from prison. And I was like, wait a minute, I I I have culinary background, so that's what I'll start off with. He basically, just like Moses, how he said, What do you have in your hand? And he's there you go. And Moses only had the staff. And God done God takes that, He takes what we already have and He uses that and He just multiplies it.
SPEAKER_02Amen.
SPEAKER_00And so I started going into KPT and I started doing these cooking and baking classes with them and just showing them, you know, just the basics, you know. And I didn't have, and we don't have a kitchen, so we don't have a stable kitchen. We don't I had to haul I until this day I'm still doing it. I'm hauling all my ovens, you know, my portable ovens, my supplies. So you're teaching a cooking class without any kitchen. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You're taking kids to driving school without a car. Yeah. I mean, God is showing up, but go ahead. So you teach basics because uh a lot of us who are immigrants to America, we come, and especially for let's say the Micronesian, they've never cooked on a stovetop, right, with heating things or ovens, and you're teaching basic cooking like fried rice for the kids who often are watching themselves, right? If they're don't have their parents or out working, they cook for themselves.
SPEAKER_00Well, no, they they've cooked on ovens and stoves before, but like you know, basically the places where I go, you know, they're not rich. We're not rich. They don't we don't have much, you know, and and um it's basically using what you have, what you have, what you have around you, and allowing it to be um used in ways where it will feed thousands. And that's what God did, you know. I just took what I had, I had a burner. Um, we we and that's one thing I have to say, you know, um why God takes um the foolish things of the world. Come on. Because like we can turn anything to these inmates. For let me just okay, I'm gonna brag about my fell my fellow felons, okay? I'm gonna brag about my fellow felons. So we can literally take nothing and turn it into something. Wow. You know, and we literally were hauling our little burner in there, and we took that and we were making all kinds of stuff musubis, stews, um, fried rice, stir-fry.
SPEAKER_02Well, and these are basic foods that we would eat at dinner time. Yes.
SPEAKER_00And you're teaching the kids to make it for themselves. Yeah, so um I started off, we started off doing like fancy stuff, but then I was like, okay, that don't make no sense because when they go home, they don't have half of these these ingredients. Right. So we started using what they would have, you know, like spam, canned spaghetti, extra hot dog, uh, yeah, extra hot dog vanna sausages, and turning it into a gourmet meal.
SPEAKER_02Look at you.
SPEAKER_00And um, you know, and they were they started to feel more confident in that because they have that already. I love it, you know, it builds their confidence.
SPEAKER_02And then you were starting to brag on your girls.
SPEAKER_00Yes. Yes, um, and so the way that God provided through the Uber was one night I was out Ubering and um um some guy jumps in the backseat of my car, didn't know him, don't know him, just and he just started up a conversation and asked me, Oh, so you know, do you do this full-time or you know, do you do this as a living? And I basically just said, you know, uh, well, this is what I do um full time to provide for what I do that I love to do, my passion. And he was like, Oh, what is that? And I told him about the kids. I started sharing about the kids, and he told me, Oh, um, well, you know, with the this is exactly how he said it. And his voice was so calm. Well, you know, with the economy, you know, and how expensive everything is and the cost of food, you know, I want to help try and help you um alleviate some of that cost. And in my mind, I'm just like, oh God, here we go. Some guy trying to say, you know, he's gonna help me again, you know, and like, you know, blah blah blah. And I was like, yeah, whatever. And I took it as a grain of salt, you know. Just was like, he was like, Here, you know, he gave me his number, and I was like, Yeah, whatever. But the thing, see, this is how God is just such a strategic God because the next day, so I picked this guy up at 7 p.m. Friday.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_007 p.m. the next day, I had a scheduled uh reservation, like it was a reservation that I had to pick up this lady. I went and picked her up in Kapole, and she gets in the car. I don't know her either. She gets in the car and she starts talking. We start talking about like shopping areas in the neighborhood. And then she and I mentioned Walmart. I was like, Yeah, Walmart's a good place to shop. And she goes, Wait a minute, what what's up with Walmart? Like, why do you why do you want to go to Walmart? And I'm looking at her like, calm down, ladies, just Walmart, okay?
SPEAKER_02And I was like, well, I get Snobby on Walmart.
SPEAKER_00And I'm like, well, what's wrong with Walmart? Where else is there to shop? She was like, Target, what about Target? And I look at her and I go, Oh my gosh, you're not gonna believe this. And she was like, What? I said, Yesterday I had this guy jump in my car and he told me that he was gonna help me, you know, with all this because I now I already shared with her what I do, you know, the whole my sister's keeper thing and why I Uber and blah blah blah, all this stuff. And I shared that this guy from Target jumps in my car and tells me that, you know, he wants to help alleviate my you know burden. My LG burden and the cost for my cooking. And she was like, What's his name? And I was like, you know, I didn't even get his name because it was just like, you know, this guy's full of crap, you know. And she was like, Is he tall and does he have a beard? And I'm like, Yeah. And she was like, Was he the white guy? I was like, yeah. And she was like, Did you pick him up at the Salt Lake? Um, and I said, Yeah. She was like, Do you know who? She was like, Do you know who he is? I was like, No, I don't know. I just told her I met him in the club. He's a stranger. She was like, Do you know who I am? I was like, no. And she was like, she was like, you are taking me to the airport. And I was like, and she was like, I am the district regional manager of all the targets in the Hawaiian Islands.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00And I go, and no, I didn't say and to her, I'm just thinking of mine like Anne. And she was like, I'm sure she felt it. He is taking my position. You're taking me to the airport because I'm moving to the mainland and he is now going to be my position. And I go, what? And she was like, That guy's name is Jay, and he is telling you the truth. He has such a big heart, and that's what he does. Give him a call. She said, give him a call. Because everything he told you, he's going to do it. And I was like, No way. So the next day, so now Friday I meet him. Saturday, this lady, I confirms. Yeah. Confirmations are affirmations. I text him. I said, You're not going to believe. I met this lady. I tell him the whole story. He said, You know what? Make me a list. He tells me, make him a list. He said, Don't leave out any make me a list of everything that you need. Everything. From the food to the equipment to the utensil. Everything. Let's go, boy. Let's brag. And so I make him a huge list. And I email it to him. And then the next day he says, Come in Monday, and I want you to meet my team. And you know, I want and we'll try to have, you know, whatever you give me to give you. So I go in that next day, right? And this man does not ask me if I'm a 501c3, doesn't ask me for proof, doesn't even ask me, ask me for my ID. Like he doesn't, he just takes me at my word. And he's he introduces me to the team and he says, Well, I went through the list and I wasn't able to get this, this, this, and this today because it was such a short notice. And I'm like, Oh, that's okay, you know, don't worry about it. And so I'm thinking this guy's just gonna come through the door with one wagon, you know, full of stuff. He opens up the door and like a whole bunch of target people comes pushing in these wagons of all my stuff. Like a parade motorcade of freedom. Comes in. And I'm sitting there like, and then he tells me, I'm sorry, but I wasn't able to get you an oven. Um, one of those big ovens.
SPEAKER_02A real appliance oven, a real appliance oven. Easy baked Donald Bryan in the 70s oven.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and then he tells me, I said, No, that's okay because like I don't have a permanent place. And even if he gave me an oven, I would like I would have had to have left it there. I wouldn't have been able to take it with me.
SPEAKER_02You have to put it in the kitchen and it stays.
SPEAKER_00And so he tells me, I can give you those portable ovens. He goes back, tells his team to go back and brings in four portable ovens, the you know, the skillets where you can cook the burners, all of that, and puts it inside his and tells me, Here, and he says, Come back. I want you to come back and you can pick up the rest. That whole week from Monday, come Monday now. He gave me all that stuff, right? That whole week I went back for one for five days picking up stuff, loading up.
SPEAKER_02My car was overflow flowing of so it was five days of parade, motorcade, target.
SPEAKER_00And I even had to call for backup to because I couldn't fit in my car.
SPEAKER_02The reality is you couldn't use the huge appliance ovens because you'd have to leave it there, plug in, etc. He he gave you what God ordered the portable ovens that you can take home and bring back and take to other housing locations.
SPEAKER_00Exactly.
SPEAKER_02KPT, Mayor Wright, Cam 4, and Kawiki Village. Okay, thank you, God, who knows better than we do. Omniscient, all-knowing, all-powerful God. Exactly. And this is real. You didn't even have to show a license, a certification, your ID. I'm Trisha Maile.
SPEAKER_00He didn't even ask me if I really do that. Like he didn't even he he just took me at my word from that night in the Friday night Uber.
SPEAKER_02And this started because God showed you use what's in your hand. You have culinary skills, go start teaching. And you just walked it out.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I you know, basically, I I really I I see now is that God just wanted to see if I was gonna be obedient to God. Come on now, you know, he wanted to be able to do it. There's the word obedience if I want if I was gonna be obedient and trust him as I went. Because some days when I went, there was nothing. I didn't have no provision, I didn't even have help. But as I went and just showed up, that's the obedience part. Are you gonna go? Are you are you gonna go when you don't see nothing? Yeah, and I would literally go, I would go and boom, right up right as you can.
SPEAKER_02Though none go with me, still I will follow. Right? No turning back, no turning back is the old hymn that we will follow Christ. You're gonna bear your cross, even if you went alone, Trisha. You still I've gone alone many times. And you just said a few moments before we started the filming that you are in a season where it's almost become a desert dry season. You
Staying Steady In A Dry Season
SPEAKER_02are in some points, you didn't say completely, and I'm not discrediting all your other volunteers and the people who have come alongside, like this random target guy who did show up and become God's Jehovah Jyrah's hands and feet. But you have been in a season, a desert season where you start to, you're being tested by the awareness and that you show up because ministering to the the least of these and the worst of we's to the house list and the housing, it gets hard. Yeah. So that was one of the questions I had for you. A very serious question. You do hard work in a hard world in hard times. These are hard times we're all living in. Yeah, you're doing the hard work in a hard world in hard times. How do you stay inspired?
SPEAKER_00So the the thing that I learned in this, and um where I got I I guess the confidence or the the fate to go was that secret place. That seek the the secret place.
SPEAKER_02What is the secret place that you're referring to?
SPEAKER_00I think I know, but some people may so the secret place is that alone time, that one-on-one time that you spend with the Lord, where there's no distractions, no um, there's nothing. It's just you and him. Wow just in a place where it's just quiet, you're still, you you know, where you have praise and worship going, you have the word in front of you, you're journaling, and it's just that communication, that intimacy with Christ. And um it was it was being able to be comfortable in that place. Yeah, even because you know, you're sitting in a place where there's no one there, you know, like physically, and uh you're just sitting there.
SPEAKER_02You're alone, yeah with God and your Bibles, yes, just and the Holy Spirit speaking. Some of us call it in Christian uh Christianity or Christendom, the prayer closet, right? The war room with Priscilla Shire. You're you call it the secret place. I love that. So you are alone, and what are you doing in that space?
SPEAKER_00Sometimes nothing, just sitting there. Sometimes I'm crying, weeping. Um, sometimes I'm I'm arguing with the Lord. Like come on now. This maybe this part of the season, like it was more like Lord, like what is going on? You know, why is this happening? You know, you know, and it's just that's why I say they say it's a relationship with Christ. Yes, because it's literally you and Christ having this talk, and you're going back to a two-way conversation.
SPEAKER_02Thank you. Because I know too many people who sit down and we go, you know, and and Jesus taught us this prayer, our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. You know, we do the whole thing and then we close the line. When it's supposed to be you and I are doing a two-way conversation right now, why do we not do a two-way with the King of Kings, the Lord of Lords? Yeah, I get it. He's a little bit intimidating, but nonetheless, he wants to hear from us, and then we can sit and hear from him, and that's what you're doing. Because I would think, and I'm a Christian woman, I've been serving Jesus full bore since I was 13 years old from Suicide Sunday. I've been serving the King of Kings. I have never gone to the DMV and sat there and turned around and asked somebody behind me if I could borrow a car for this Micronesian kid who needs a driving test. I have never showed up in an Uber driving an Uber because I'm fighting for my own life as you are fighting for your own life, and thought, oh, the guy who runs Target in the whole state of Hawaii is gonna show up and have a motorcade parade of the goodness of God for five days. I'm gonna have to call for spiritual backup to come load up how much my God is gonna unload the excess of his kingdom into my life.
SPEAKER_00And not to mention he did that for a year and a half.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00That guy Jay um did that for a year and a half till he left, till he left to Texas himself.
SPEAKER_02God bless you, Jay. God bless you wherever you are, hundredfold, pressed down, shaken together. This is gonna make me cry, Trisha. I mean, I met you in prison. I've seen God grow his dream in and through you. We've had some hilarious moments, mostly at my expense, but we'll just let that part go. I didn't say that out loud. But I've seen how God has grown you, and that was I haven't connected with you in um at least a year, if not two years. And when I saw you recently, where was I? And and I saw the goodness of God, I saw fruit coming off your tree. You can fake a lot of Jesus funk. I always say as a teacher, you can't fake the Jesus funk, but some people do. We see false prophets, false teachers, just like Jesus warned Matthew 24. You're gonna see a lot of deception in the last days. You can fake some of it. You can have these mega churches with their smoke machines and their worship leaders who wear name brands, blah, blah, blah. I'm not gonna spit on it, but I just hit on it. So go ahead, deal with it what you have to. But let me just say something. You can fake certain things, but you can't fake fruit. You cannot. And that's why Jesus says that you judge a tree by its fruit, because that's when you see the reality of God coming to pass. And you have fruit being born in your life, Trisha. I'm so proud of you, friend. I really am. It's a big difference from when I was, you know, there in the prison speaking to two, three hundred women and first met you when I was told not to shake hands when you guys filed out, right? And then you came, the next point I saw you was at uh New Hope Leeward. I was teaching the Koahine series, right? Uh, and and you were there, evilitiousness. And you came and introduced yourself and said that we had met on the inside, and I didn't understand what that meant. And then she said, in prison. And I went, Oh, in prison. She's like, Keep it down, keep it down. And then I started my jokes about my necktat, which I'm just gonna keep bringing up till Jesus comes back. But nonetheless, um, I see a lot of good fruit on you, friend. Thank you.
SPEAKER_00So we I want I so there's a very important time that you're you're missing in and um when we met when we met again was at Camp Agape. It was
Camp Agape And The Turning Point
SPEAKER_00in 2018. I was high as a kite to remember that, and I was back in the game again, back selling drugs, um, back using drugs. And I called you, and all my friends, everybody, my um my husband at the time, um was all getting yes, he is, um, was all going down. The feds was coming after us. And I called you. I remember I was at Allah Park, and I called you and I told you that the feds was coming after us. And you told me you told me why don't you jump in your car and get down here and um And if you're gonna get caught um you might as well go get caught doing God's work instead of the devil's work. And I never forget that. And you asked me if I was coming. And um I remember I was on the road and uh I could have took the exit to go that way, or I could have took the exit to go to the north shore. I had a decision to make and um I ended up coming out there to Campagape that day. And um while I was out there, um remember I was you called me and you asked me, Where are you at? And I was like, I'm in the car, I'm in the parking lot, and you went you ran out and you asked me, What parking lot? I don't see you out here. And I was out there in the parking lot smoking a cigarette and you was like, Come on, let's go. And I was like, No, I don't want to go yet. And you're like, Come on, Trisha, let's go, let's go inside. If you get if if you're gonna get caught, if the feds are gonna get caught if if the feds are gonna come after you, you might as well be caught get caught doing God's work instead of the devil's right in the house of the Lord. Yes, with the church family. And that was the day that um at Camp Agape 2018, um, all the ex-inmates, remember you you put me in the circle, you told everybody my business, you put me in the circle, and you had all the inmates praying over me, laying hands on me. And that is when um there was a pastor that was there that prophesied over my life.
SPEAKER_02That's right.
SPEAKER_00I prophesied over my life and told me that um if I don't get out of the situation that I was living in, that I was, you know, in at the time, I would never grow. I will never grow and become and uh develop into who God created me to be. And two years I still stayed in that same place, and the minute I got out of that place, it just like God took off. God took off. Yeah. I just had to bring that up.
SPEAKER_02Well, thank you for sharing that, Trisha. Um I don't like to confess other people's sins or expose more as much as people think I'm a big mouth for a big God and I do a lot of truth telling, and I do. But when something is sacred and personal on that level, sweet friend and sister of mine, I would not ever share that without your permission.
SPEAKER_00Oh, and so you can share with whoever you want now.
SPEAKER_02Thank you. And it is public. Um, now that you've said that, I remember I would man I manhandled you. Like, you know, I'm Tonguin, so I will bounce you. We are the bouncers. We move rock walls, and I had to move this rock wall. And I at the time, I knew it was spiritual, a spiritual battle, but I literally had to drag you. She was like clinging to one of the tent poles at Camp Agape North Shore. I had to rip her off and put her in the middle of the circle and call all the warriors out to circle up and we're going after the one. Because if Jesus goes, He he's a good shepherd who has a hundred sheep and he leaves the 99 to go for the one. And in that moment, I knew we were fighting for you. I didn't even know it was literally you were at a crossroads. Yeah. And you could go left or you could go right, and you came right home.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And that's why I am so proud of you. You fought through so many things, and you fight for other people who cannot fight for themselves. They're not in that space yet for the wherewithal. And what I've seen too many times, Trisha, is that um some of us as Manahine, as powerful women who are in God's power, keakua mauloa, keakua manoloa, the most powerful God. We're manahine, we're strong women, but we don't fight for ourselves. It we suddenly can't do it. But you tell me to fight for children, you tell me to fight for that sister, that family, go to Mokai, fight for them. I'll fight all day long. I'm gonna scrap on my hammock, but it's in the moments like that when I see a sister who is so strong, has so much promise and purpose and potential, and God is coming down that we're gonna fight for you. And now you've turned it around and become a hundredfold blessing unto God's heart. Thank you.
SPEAKER_00Because I fell so many times. That wasn't, remember, that wasn't the last time that I fell. I know. So even though I was prophesied and that and you know it was powerful, a God-anointed time, I relapsed many other times after that. And it was during those falls that um when God finally captured my heart and my soul was He told me when I told when I when He told me to go, I said, God, what do you want me to do? Like, what do you want me to do as I go? And he basically told me simple. It was a simple thing. He said, I want you to love me. I mean, love them like how I've loved you. Wow. And the way he loved me was no condemnation, no judgment, no um, here you go again. There you here you are again. It was just pure, genuine. He met me right where I was at. Yeah, he can't, you know, he he didn't like um force me to come out of the pit. He didn't beg me to come out of the pit. He didn't even ask me, Why are you want to stay in the pit? He came down there, sat with me until I was ready to come out.
SPEAKER_01Wow.
SPEAKER_00And um, and so now when he's called me to go, that's what he tells me to go and do is basically do that with the people that he is sending me out with. It's just to meet them right where they are, love them right where they are, and then it's his love that will bring him out. Hallelujah. It's that reckless love that will bring bring them out. It's the love of Christ. It's not me, it's not anything that Trisha does, it's it's the power of Jesus. Amen.
SPEAKER_02And that it was nothing to do with Don. It was God doing his business, right? That he loved us when we still were in our abject sin, in our depraved sin. That God can love you as he loved Trisha, as he loved Don O'Brien, the foremost of sinners, as Paul wrote. He said, I am the foremost, the first, the best at sinning, and I am the least of saints, and yet our God lifts us up and he loves us. Oh, how he loves us. Thank you for sharing that, friend. Um, so that was really the beginning of my sister's keeper in the heartbeat that you can love the least of these and the worst of we's. You go after all of them.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Now we do have, I'm gonna pivot a little bit. We have some fun memories together. I feel like we get to lighten it up a little bit. We also have other memories, like I feel like I've known you at least 10 years. It's been, yeah. Right? And your kids went through Camp Agape since its inception, year one. It's now at year 20 at the time of this videotaping. Um, I even was at the bedside when your dad had his heart attack. Remember that at Queens Medical West? Um, had to talk to the nurses about covering him up. And things just I was there at his celebration of life. Yeah, you were cracking jokes. Um, and not to say in a serious way, there was a lot of childhood trauma for you. You were in a military family, God bless your dad for his service to God and country. But there was a lot of moving, there was a lot of childhood trauma. You're Samoan. Um, there's still a lot of uh issues that go on in my family, in Trisha's family, I think in all our families, but you're fighting forward and you're falling forward, friends. So thank you for that. Do you want to share one of the fun memories we have together? Do you care to share? Are we good on that stuff? We're totally good. Yeah, let's skip forward.
SPEAKER_00I'm working on it. No, I think we I think it's very important that we do share that because, you know, just as everybody that sees dawns, you know, she's not just this um, you know, dawn of a new day. You know, I am a professional Polynesian. We do have a lot of memories, we good and you know, um sorrowful and just we did life, life life memories, but I will never forget how just your natural charm and beauty just brings on these opposite attractions.
SPEAKER_02Uh-huh. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And I think that's the place where I get my most joy and laughter out of is just watching guys just flip.
SPEAKER_02I'm not a flirtatious woman. I do not dress obliviously. I'm a woman of God. I keep it all tight, locked up, right? And yet one of the times she couldn't even breathe. Literally, I had been sent by the Lord to go to Big Bear Mountain. Who knew in California? I'm a Hawaii girl, I'm from the deep south. Hong. We don't have bears. I thought Big Bear Mountain was the ride at Disneyland, right? Cute little logs, fake logs going down a river, looking at these statue bears. This was Big Bear Mountain. Pastor Roy comes in. We're having Camp Agape, California, and he says, There's some bears on the mountain. I went, No, there are not. There are not big bears on this mountain. And in fact, there were. And then she kind of had a breathing thing, right? There was the stress of being up on that elevation of Big Bear Mountain. And um, we we took her down to the medical tent, Charlotte, uh, Mrs. Roy Yamamoto and I. Lisa. Uh, yes, with Lisa also a leader there. And somehow the doctor on call decided not to check her out for her vitals. He was checking me out. I'm in a campagape t-shirt. I smell disgusting because we're camping. I had a ponytail. I mean, I'm not macking on anybody. I'm not projecting a vibe. I ain't doing nothing. And that's the laugh that starts coming out. And she's sucking literally on an oxygen tank. So it sounds like Darth Vader dying. She's sipping through a tiny little straw because her body is all. And this was what you were doing. Then he came to do house calls because we were up the mountain and it there was a freak blizzard snowstorm. Again, God, I don't know if you love me. I think you hate me. I'm up a big bear mountain with real bears and a freak blizzard. Hawaii girls don't do that. We couldn't take her down the mountain, so he had to come do house visits and come chat with me about our patient. I was like, bruh, you're married, right? And then we took you down the mountain. One person had to take you down. Guess who is the sacrificial lamb? Yeah, you're looking at her. The girl with two thumbs. And so I take her down to the ER. We survived the drive down the tracks. They cleared the road. Then that ER doctor starts to check out vitals of not the patient, but the person in the now very stinky Campagapi t-shirt with a really hemajang ponytail.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Don't bring up when I got the um speeding ticket with an ex con in the car. I had a motorcade of police escort behind me because we were in Pearl City going about a hundred something. But nonetheless, that's not another.
SPEAKER_00You didn't you didn't mention the part like we just got out of Bible study. Yeah. And here you are getting us pulled over. Going, you know, 30 miles over the speed limit.
SPEAKER_02And so Somebody was documenting it the whole time and taking pictures. Another one of my most embarrassing moments in ministry, and she's documenting and laughing, supplying the laugh track. Okay, now that that's over, fun memories, done. Back to what word of encouragement, serious questions. What
A Message For Youth Identity
SPEAKER_02word of encouragement would you give our youth today? Because you work with a lot of the down and out youth.
SPEAKER_00So this is this is what I say to them all the time is that, you know, is that you know they're worthy and um that they are loved, you know, and um and I don't know if anybody's told him that. Probably nobody has ever told him that or shared that with them. And um I know that when someone spoke life into me, when someone told me what the word of God says about me, you know, and I will never forget one of these leaders when I was in prison um in the Total Life Recovery program, these volunteers would come in there and they would speak life into us, they'd speak the word of God into us. And one of the volunteers looked at me and told me that, you know, Trisha, you may not believe it yourself, you may not believe in yourself, but I will believe in you until you are capable or until you believe in yourself. Come on. And that stuck with me, you know, because um it does. It literally takes just one person to tell you, you know, you can do it. You're gonna you're gonna be you're gonna be somebody. You are somebody. And you know, I want to be that person to these kids because these kids get spoken to by, you know, not just people, but the influence that's around them and that's being put into them now from social media, from you know, the phones, um, just you know, from just from you know, any type of social media or media period is that you know, they're the the influence that is being put in them is so negative.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_00And you know, people can be negative, you know. I can be negative too, but from you know, from from what I've came out of, what I've you know, what God has saved me from, I know that speaking life and um just telling somebody that you are somebody can change their whole world. Wow. And um, that's what I I don't want to be because everybody we all have we all can count five, even ten, maybe even twenty people on our hands that speak negative into our life. We can probably barely even count one or two, or even a handful on your hand. And so I want to speak positive and promise and go.
SPEAKER_02Speak a life, right? Speak life, speak truth.
SPEAKER_00And so I want to be able to be that one person in their life telling them that you know you're gonna make it, you know, you can do it, that you have gifts and talents that God has given you. Yeah, and um, I want to be here to help you find them.
SPEAKER_02That's huge. And I love that you started off that that you would tell them you are worthy, yeah, that you are loved, and those two things go together because God is love and he is so worthy. And then he says, Love me and then love others as you love yourself. But if kids don't, if our youth does not, they don't know that they are worthy or that they are loved by the greatest love of all, the inventor of love, the he who is love, they're not gonna be able to give what they don't have. It's real simple. And that kind of takes me back to when we were talking about manahine or powerful women who who can't help ourselves, right? For whatever weird reason, that we got beat down so many times, assaulted, afflicted, addicted, all the things that come on us. But we have such beautiful hearts made by the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. God destined and designed you to be great and powerful and holy. You are a holy nation, a royal priesthood. You are chosen, you are set apart. We don't hear that stuff like you just said. Our youth don't know that, but it's the truth, and it's right here in God's word. So thank you for speaking the worth and the identity that they are loved. We need more of that. Let's do more of it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we I mean, the world needs it, you know. Our household needs it because we need it, you and I need it. And it says that, you know, that it God's word says in Revelations where it says about the, you know, um, the word of your testimony, you know, by your transform by the word of your testimony and by the you know power and the devil is defeated by the blood of the lamb.
SPEAKER_02That's a sealed, it is finished by the blood of the lamb, by the word of your testimony, and because you're not so afraid to die.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. And so it is the word of God that's gonna transform, that's gonna sharp, that's gonna pierce through born bone and marrow. Amen. And so that's right. When I go there, you know, I try to, you know, speak the word of God into them. And it and and it doesn't necessarily like they don't even have to be listening, you know, like listening. No, their spirit hears it. That's right. Their spirit will hear the living word of God and it will acknowledge it, and the seed will get go down into their heart, into their soul. And God says, His word says that the word will go forth. And it shall not, it will accomplish what it was meant to do, it will go forth, and it will, it says it will accomplish what it was sent out to do, and it will not return to him void. So no matter what we're no matter, you know, no matter what um if they're listening or not, even like when they don't come down to my events at KPT, right, because a lot of families don't come down, but I know when I have those speakers blasting and blaring through the neighborhood, there's a spirit out there that's gonna hear that. You have to physically be there at my event. Someone in the building, yeah, someone walking by will hear the word of God, will hear that praise and worship music, and it will cat and it will catch, the seed will catch out of the soil. Absolutely. And so that's what that's what we do. You know, we just go, even when we go into the streets, you know, even though they're high, even though they're like totally just you know out of it, the word when we pray over them, when we speak the word of God over them, God says his word will not return to him void.
SPEAKER_02Amen. And I've
Entering Tents With Respect
SPEAKER_02been with you right here in Kalihi by the clinic in the back, uh not on the main road of King Street. And I just showed up because another friend who helped you was had asked me to come. What most moved me about ministering to the houseless there is you actually go into the tents. Like you had already started without us, right? You're all by yourself. A woman, I'm like a woman in Kalihi in the back alleys. And you guys go in and and you're very kind and respectful, right? Polite about entering the tent. But a lot of these people, just big eyes turning towards whoever's coming to that front and saying, We just have coffee, hot coffee, some scones, uh, we got food, yeah. And they're like the big eyes looking like, Wow, somebody remembers me, man. Yeah, like aloha, and you guys know them by name, you know.
SPEAKER_00You call anti-so-and-so because God knows us by name. Come on, God knows us by name, you know, and it's not really us, you know, because when we go, you know, we're not there to judge them, we're not there, we just want that, we're just there to remind. And a lot of them will tell us this oh, you guys, you know, you guys came out, you guys remember me. And we're just we tell them it's not us, it's Jesus remembers you. Jesus sees you. I'm not sure. It is Jesus that sees you and he remembers you. Like if anything, this is where he is at, like more powerfully than anywhere else.
SPEAKER_02And I was just gonna say that, Trisha. I've ministered in front of tens of thousands. I've ministered in uh around the world in many places, on usually from the stages. But it was in that moment going on a back alley in Kalihi, um, cracking a tent and ministering to a houseless person. Probably one of the best times I've ever ministered, other than being in the women's prison, which you've heard me say, other people can testify to hearing me say the best worship I have ever heard in my life. Women's correctional or in this houseless church where I live.
SPEAKER_00There is no other place that I ever felt the power like that and the worship like in the women's prison.
SPEAKER_02And I have been to the top world symphonies, the new New York orchestras. I have been in uh churches that are mega churches because we nail the worship, but it was at the women's prison and in a houseless church where their hearts break wide open in a sound you have never heard unto the living God. So thank you for ministering to those people, friend. You're welcome. Um, last question.
What Aloha Means And How To Help
SPEAKER_02It's two parts. One, what is aloha to you? We ask every guest who comes on aloha alive.
SPEAKER_00Um, what is aloha to me? So, okay, I have a grandson. Okay, I have three grandchildren, but I have one grandson that calls me when I when I pull up, he, you know, his whole world lights up. Just like my son's dog. If my dog, if my son's dog could call me, this dog would call me. And that pure innocent um joy uh when you walk into the room and someone's face, the world just lights up. That is what aloha is to me. And so if I could bring that when I go out into the streets, when I go into the prison, when I go and um uh spend time with these kids, when I walk up into these places and they just light up, that's aloha.
SPEAKER_02Wow. Now, um, and who is second part, who is your aloha hero, past or present, living or passed on, um, who embodies or symbolizes pure aloha to you?
SPEAKER_00Um, I don't think I have just one person. I think there is a village. I have a aloha village, more like it. And um, there's so many people that have come into my life and um just brings that aloha, that unconditional love for me. So I have the it's not just one person. I have a well go on, Sunga.
SPEAKER_02You have your whole village. Let's go try.
SPEAKER_00I have a whole tribe, tribal village of just powerful women, power, you know, God-fearing men. Um, yeah, in my life that has prayed me through this. Come on. I think that's the most important thing is you gotta find people that you know that are gonna love you through it and that's gonna support and pray you through it. Pray. Because we don't fight against flesh and blood. Come on. It's a spiritual warfare. And you gotta have an army. We do not fight with the weapons of this world. You gotta fight, you gotta find you an army that's gonna be praying for you.
SPEAKER_02And they really do the praying and the fasting. You were talking about Total Life Recovery, which is the program inside the women's correctional facility, and I thought immediately of Chaplain Tammy Tertio. God bless that woman.
SPEAKER_00You've had other chaps, right? Yes, chaplain Tammy, Chaplain Bonnie. I mean, these are the women that that that selflessly keep showing up. Yeah, keep showing up, keep it week out, two, three times a week they're going into the prisons, right? No, they like Chaplin Tamley now, like this is that's her life. And she doesn't get paid for this. That's the thing, right? There is that they she don't, you know, they don't get you don't get paid majority of the time when you're not in physical, like worldly mind. Right.
SPEAKER_02We know the reward is.
SPEAKER_00You know, in other ways, and that's like, you know, one of these kids seeing me in this in the streets, or you know, a woman that got clean and sober and she's living her life and got her kids back. That's how you get paid. Come on now, and that's that is worth more than millions of dollars.
SPEAKER_02And it says that I believe it's in Psalm 27, that we shall see the goodness of God in the land of the living. So you and I may not get uh we're not billionaires, we don't necessarily run the world like a globalist, but we run the world like the holy nation, the royal priesthood that you and I are. We are the chosen, and we will see the full reward of God in heaven. And we do see some of it now, like you said, having an ex-addict come up and thank you, or one of your youth turn around with softer eyes, like yeah, oh, we just got that car from that lady. Let's go, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yes.
SPEAKER_02Thank you, Trisha, for all you do. For um, my sister's keeper is your ministry. Do you have a website or how can we partner with you? Either donate, volunteer, show up, feed the house lists.
SPEAKER_00So my sister's keeper, I so I wasn't a nonprofit. I just recently became my own nonprofit. And so my nonprofit is called Reckless Love. And Reckless Um under Reckless Love is my sister's keeper. So it's an umbrella that Reckless Love is the umbrella now. Organizing. So if you guys want to write those checks out, it'll be to Reckless Love, not my sister's keeper.
SPEAKER_02And what is your address? Um, my ad for for what? To send the check. Oh, I'm a check writer. Um you don't yet have a website, you're still working through a lot of things. She just had her first fundraiser, right? Which was massive miracle unto itself. So um be patient. It's not a pretty plastic package thing. This isn't AI, this is the real truth of my sister's keeper, aka Reckless Love. And she's an ex-inmate. She's overcome a life of addiction, affliction. She keeps there is failure, we're not lying, but is failing forward. She's been off, she's clean, and she really is my sister. I'm Don O'Brien. This is my friend and my sister, Trisha Ma'ai Liupano. And I'm super proud of you, and I'm so grateful that I get to see the goodness of God in your life, Trisha. And as I always like to end and say, I say, Aloha always wins. Love never fails.