SPEAKER_00

Well, guys, we want to tell you, you know, we we appreciate all the shares. We appreciate all the ratings and reviews and comments. Hit five stars on us on iTunes. Make fun of Brian's jeans. They're not that short, really. It's my they're scooping.

SPEAKER_01

It's still something to make fun of.

SPEAKER_00

You know, YouTube's been a good pace too. We've got a lot of people watching on YouTube and checking them out. So we appreciate the reviews there too, guys.

SPEAKER_02

Doesn't seem like a great place to venture into, but three, two, one, two. Doesn't seem great. Doesn't seem great. Place you want to stay out of life. Yeah, doesn't seem like a like out of a fun plus fun spot.

SPEAKER_00

I was um looking at a video earlier. I sent it to you guys. I don't know if you got to see it yet, with a lady opinion on the whole gym costume thing. I thought that was pretty wild.

SPEAKER_01

She was opinionated on women's gym costume or maybe.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, she was nominated on women going into the gym with the current state of workout gear that is out there. Yeah, Jim's don't understand her. And she was like, why? She was like, she was like, why do you need why do you need that? That's and she's like, we get all these people that like record their workouts and it's always some like booty workout, and they're like waiting until the guy comes in and like looks over, and then they're clipping that.

SPEAKER_01

If you get enough people to watch that, you don't have to work, you just have to do nothing, record your video, get enough views of television now and get paid for it.

SPEAKER_00

Well, the best part of that is what she was saying is gyms are a public place. There's men and women, sometimes kids, child care. And the idea that someone wants to then justify and explain why they're dressed that way out in public, her point was anywhere, not just the gym. Her basic point was is don't even waste my time with trying to explain to me why you need to be seen in public without any clothes on. I already know the reason. You don't need to lie to me about your reason. And she said, and the fact that you're needing to post that just shows me who you really are. And this lady on there is a very pretty woman who has a nice stature who could do the very same thing.

SPEAKER_02

Who's in the fitness industry?

SPEAKER_00

She doesn't need to do it because she already knows she's pretty. She doesn't need a bunch of strangers to tell her she's pretty or that she's hot. Um, and so I mean I think the video was good just because it wasn't some dude, you know how everyone gets when with our opinions. Oh, you're this and that. Well, okay. Here's a super hot fitness lady who's calling you on your stuff, calling you on your issues. You probably won't like that either because if you stop doing it, then you'll realize that, oh crap, I just don't think I'm very pretty, and I need a bunch of weird strangers to tell me so. And the greatest part about strangers telling these women how pretty they are is it's always a bunch of one-tooth weirdos. It's always the dudes that are probably staring at their phone under the covers. You know these guys, you know these guys. We know what they're doing. And then here's my favorite comment. I'm so proud of you. Proud of what? You don't even know that person. I read comments on these posts sometimes. Oh, you're you're putting in such hard work. I'm so proud of you. Click on guy's picture. Weird, out of shape, holding a wrench, under the covers. Okay. What are you proud of, bro? You need to get proud of you. You need to get proud of you a little bit and get to the gym. It was just, I thought it was a good take on it. Always, uh, always with their tripods or setting their phones down. And I'm gonna include the dudes in this too. Look, I am so tired of people being like, oh, be proud of your work and put it on social media. If you were doing it for the right reasons, absolutely nobody would even need to know you were doing it. But you're not. That that term, proud of your work, show it to everyone, is actually the reflection of how much confidence you don't have in why you're doing it. And uh, my favorite ones are like, some people are posting about getting drunk all weekend. What's wrong with posting to your proc? Another justification. Neither things are cool. Getting drunk is stupid. Posting thirst traps and weird pictures, also not cool. It's it's so dumb.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and in a different realm, when those things happen, I DM some of the guys from our ministry. So the second I see like a weird photo or a selfie, I'm like, So did you break up with your girlfriend? They're like, Yeah. I'm like, Well, you look like an idiot on social media, I could tell. And they just need attention, right? So you're just leaning into your trauma. And social media is kind of a place for trauma bonding all over the place. It keeps people in low IQ and a low emotional IQ. It's sad.

SPEAKER_00

So I cringed it up a little bit last week to try to test this out. It was kind of fun. Again, though, my cringe pick was in an actual shirt. I thought that actual pair of shorts. Well, people hear us about it. Like, if you're in the fitness industry and you can you can post, promote your plans, your ideas, your legitimate, educated, experienced advice in a way that isn't like trappy. I'm not I'm not talking about that. I see so many people in that industry getting that job done. It's how they get paid, it's how they work. I'm still gonna make a little bit of a fun about it, but yeah, I'm jealous. Before you guys start commenting, you're just jealous. Yeah, I am. We're all jealous. I don't have a six-pack, but I do have to laugh a little bit at the super cringe. So last week I tossed one out um just to stir the fun. It did exactly what I thought it would do. But I want to go back and say I know some men and women that are in that industry that do it right. If every one of your posts, you aren't wearing any clothes, you're wearing whatever that's not clothes, and it's always, it's always gonna be picture the phone at about five o'clock and then picture the person with the leg strap on on the on the chest workout thing, and they're having to do the old leg lift from behind. It um because it it you throw that leg back, it's all booties.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, the I was like, I was like, what are we talking about? But yes, I understand that. It's the number one, which makes me like him more.

SPEAKER_01

It's the number one cringe was terrible. I do glute lifts because you could also say straight straight lips.

SPEAKER_02

I will I here's the deal. I go to the gyms. I go to the gym in like the craziest outfits. Like people come into the gym and instead of like all matching them like yesterday I walked in in purple shorts because my wife and Bobby Vegas looked like Michael Fox.

SPEAKER_00

Hey Microfox. Well, we can put a bow on this pretty easily. We can put a bow on this pretty easily. Girls, if you think that's what's gonna get it done, you're gonna get all kinds of attention from guys that are gonna go out with you once and then proceed to call you or text you at approximately nine o'clock on every couple of weekend nights to see if you're gonna be busy in an hour or so.

SPEAKER_02

No, nine is early, brother. Nine's gonna be it's gonna be like a it's gonna be like are you up at midnight?

SPEAKER_01

Well, they're gonna pick one of their 52 options. Well, we start checking early.

SPEAKER_00

We gotta start checking out who's gonna be available. Who's at 11? These aren't gonna be dudes you're taking home anywhere. And hey guys, if those are the kind of girls you're going after, that that well is empty. That well is completely empty.

SPEAKER_01

And I'll liken it to this. I went out New Year's two years ago in Oklahoma City, and there was two uh two different gun battles, like guys on both sides of the street shooting each other. One of them ended up in a fatality, and I took my wife, we were we're going out, we're at Mickey Mantle Steak restaurant right there, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yep.

SPEAKER_01

Saw the nightclubs and I turned around and said, We're going to another part of the city. And she asked me why. I've worked clubs for multiple years a long time ago. And I said, There's no dress code at two of the clubs, something bad's gonna happen 100%. And there ended up being two different shootings. Same thing with the gyms. And and for guys and girls, if they're not gonna make you wear anything, and I went to a gym manager and told him because there was literally 15, 16-year-old boys upstairs working out with a woman without a bra on and a white t-shirt because she thought that she needed attention. And I walked up and asked them if they had any standards at all. Where the manager was. He was like, Yeah, I was like, go get them. I was like, Does she meet the standard? Go get her. I was like, this is pathetic. 15-year-old boys don't need to be in a gym dealing with this. Um I did think it was funny, you know, because if if standards aren't met, we're starting to see it in the streets and different things where people take their emotions and throw them and attack everybody uh with low emotional IQ and hate, and all of a sudden a man walks up and stops it. Uh I was in Vasa. Great place to be, like at 6 or noon. There's 50 people in there. There's also guys that are just in there to lift. And somebody set up the tripod, one of like the teenage boys, and one of the guys walked through and just kicked the living crud out of it and said, This isn't your home, pick your crap up and move it out of the weight gear.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I also want to say, like, I I go to Crunch Fitness, which is fine. Like, I don't care where I go, I'm just trying to go lift heavy things for 30 minutes and leave. Like crunch hasn't been bad. I really don't mind. But I'm also like, in terms of the girls in their whatever, what about the dudes who are wearing the stringers that are like barely covering the nips? And I'm like, what are we doing here, guys? Like, who who who and what? Like, I'm cool with the full tank top, great, whatever. You know what that means?

SPEAKER_01

What are we what are we looking at? That's finally old enough to judge younger people now because the whole clothing thing's changed. That just means you have a little bit of age on you. Hey, here's the deal. I walk, I walk in in a shirt and shorts, and that's it. That's the new thing, though. Culture wants men to be women. So guys are trying to be pretty and skinny and always have perfect ass instead of being men. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, these dudes are huge and like they're wearing bank tops that are spaghetti straps, and I'm going, what are we doing, guys?

SPEAKER_01

Like, most not all, but most huge dudes fall hard. Like, if they're huge just so they look right, that's not a dude. That's just somebody with a ton of insecurity trying to look like a woman.

SPEAKER_02

It's but I was like, man, come on, guys, put some clothes on. Like, what are we doing here? Like, and then you got the grandpa in there that's like rocking the 1985 shirt and still lifting like freaking 290 on the bench. I'm like, pop off king, you are a monster. Like, you've been doing this for longer than I've been alive, bro.

SPEAKER_01

There's a couple old men at the one in Broken Eric can put up five. Yeah, yeah. And they've still got they got back hair, they've got chest, they've got all the stuff.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, there's some dudes who are out. I'm like on Saturday, Sunday morning. If I go in there, I'm like, these dudes are absolutely smoking the weights. And I'm like, how? I but yeah. They're like in there in their sweatpants, and they're not getting it.

SPEAKER_01

They're not perfectly manicured.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, they're they're like, whatever, bro.

SPEAKER_01

Like, I'm here, I'm trying to leave here. So, how much do you think culture's affected all this, right? Because I mean that very sincerely. A bunch of dudes walking around trying to look pretty that now the the thing that bothers me on Facebook is I turn around and some dudes making duck lips. Like he's trying to look pretty for women. I'm like, dude, just be a dude. I don't think the other thing for standards, so I was going back to the gym. Ladies, if you're single and there are attractive men that are texting you or whatever, make them not text you. Make them pick the phone up and make some plans. And if they won't, then they're doing this to 50 other women, and you're gonna wonder why you met this great guy and it turned out horrible again. Because you just got played by a guy that's figured out the algorithm of however emotional you feel right then, get you at the right moment, tell you the right thing, because it worked on 30 of the 50 girls. It's like a marketing campaign for just random women, and so don't fall for it. If you set standards around how you'll make a guy communicate, the expectation to pick you up, the expectation of a restaurant, you won't deal with the slackers most of the time.

SPEAKER_00

Well, we'll we'll shift off the the girl side of it a little bit. I mean, I felt like my opinion on it doesn't really matter.

SPEAKER_01

Do you notice how he wore like full-size jeans to have this conversation today?

SPEAKER_00

He also wore like I got a leg brace under it. I didn't want him to show these pants are just loose enough. Oh leg brace. They go over it. The covering, the compression thing. He had surgery. Oh, for the surgery.

SPEAKER_01

I was like, I was like, what I was like, what do you write brace over there? Yeah, not like the Will Farrell basketball movie. He wore sweatpants that would fit Shaquille O'Neal. Like I thought he could jump out of a plane and float down the road.

SPEAKER_02

He came to the office wearing sweatpants that could have fitted Shaquille O'Neal or the bigger record. And they looked super comfortable. I was like, I was like, you need sweatpants to name a man.

SPEAKER_01

And he was like, yeah, bro, like I just had to be a little bit more than a little bit.

SPEAKER_02

Like with the three goats.

SPEAKER_01

Let me look up the look around if he leaves. They look comfortable though.

SPEAKER_00

But they'll throw out any pants. Before I shift into the guy side, because I mean, I I liked the video because as it pertains to us having opinions about what they're wearing and stuff, they don't really care what we're saying. I've heard every justification in the world. Um, but I like to point it more towards the guys, like, okay, forget it. Our opinion doesn't matter. Now, this lady here, who's super pretty, in shape, having an opinion like that, and being at least moderately conservative about it. Look, we're not saying you gotta. I'm not one of the weirdos. I mean, Kelly might get weird on you. I'm okay with a little bit. I'm okay with a little bit. But a lot of it, guys, too, is in the attitude, the actions, the the way you're moving. It's the way you're moving.

SPEAKER_02

Well, are you going to the gym to only look at girls?

SPEAKER_01

Well, but I'm also a Is that is that the question that needs to be asked like when it comes to women, I'm also a protector. Like normally I'm looking at a room. It's not all about getting mad. No, like, well, and Brian, you brought up a point. Like, it made me feel uneasy when you talked about it. The amount of people looking at you and watching your videos as a woman that are weirdos and petos and molesters that are on social media and then now they want to stalk you because you're doing all the things. I don't trust dudes, man. I've I've been in situations where you can't. I've been in situations where I've ripped men off women in parking lots before, outbouncing. So, ladies, you're not setting yourself up for success. One moment can change your entire life, and there are some predators out there, which is means we need to bring back, and that's what I said we talked about men being pretty. We need men to be men because we can sniff out the guys that are not safe. There's just something off about them.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think too. I mean, that's why I like this lady's opinion on it. You know, my gear shift will be to like the men, how culture is affecting what they're doing, what they're looking at. Um, before I do that, though, since y'all are making fun of my amazing sweatpants I'm not wearing today, which I'm gonna be wearing a lot more of them because they're awesome. They have a pleat in the front. I'd be rolling these things to multiple events the last time.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I need to be sent to me.

SPEAKER_00

Well, here's the deal. Fiobach is who sent them with a letter that said, send us videos we want to promote them, blah, blah, blah. That happens, you know, because of social media stuff. I want to tell you guys there's a 100% chance that I'm not gonna film any of these promotional videos for them because I just can't do it. Because we're gonna be making fun of the very guys that do that stuff right now, here in a minute. Um, by making fun of, I mean just, you know, talking about it. Because it's the same guys that are putting on lip gloss and doing like 3,000 crunch. They're all wearing lip gloss, guys. Just like flat. They they want to look pretty. They're using filters. They're they're all like there's a few of them that aren't. Weird. Okay, there's a few of them that aren't. But most of them are super hot, pretty looking guys with like they did 1,000 crunches right before it, and then they're posting videos and they're walking and they're just they're moving their arms around and they're slapping the sleeves and showing you all. It's the it's the cringiest junk in the world. And I get it. Make your money, I guess.

SPEAKER_01

Make your money all the new shirts coming out that all the guys are like trying to do it.

SPEAKER_00

Everything that they're promoting, and I get it. It's the it's the world we're living in now. It's just so hard to avoid like giggling at it. It every time I see one of them, it's like someone might as well say penis or something, or just fart. Just fart. I'm giggling at it. I don't understand it. They just look so weird. It's not in any way, shape, or form manly at all. It's like they're trying to mimic hot, pretty women as much as they can to get likes, shares, and attention. And I guess that's the world we're living in now. And I don't know that I have a huge problem with it outside of if we ever get attacked, we're screwed. Because if we're sending these pretty men in there to fight, all of us that are basically retired by age will just have to be get an exception. The president will have to sign an exception that all the like 40 to 50 year old men that generation will have to come in and sweep up the mess because these dudes are gonna get annihilated.

SPEAKER_01

Just no jumping from anything high. You guys cringe whenever you see like a 20-year-old jump off a 15-foot wall and the knee surgeries and the the back stuff you wake up with at 40, it's funny. We just can't jump. We'll have to go in. There's some videos about that. It's just, and that's what I meant by culture is there's been a big cultural swing towards what is being promoted. I don't even know, and that would be interesting. I don't even know how many women actually like that, but I know that that's promoted on social media, and how weird is that that's what runs the world. Whatever they decide to promote is most people's reality that are on social media 24-7. That's a dangerous place to be. I'll throw Disney under the bus because I hate them. But this whole thing around the whole world cares about all this stuff, and then Disney puts out movies that just tank, and you can't hide finances, right? But it's interesting, social media told a different story. And so what everybody's being told in every lane, right? When we look at the the guy-girl thing or all the stuff that we're seeing, it's not necessarily the truth.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I agree with that.

SPEAKER_01

For the men, there's a lot of smoking music. A lot of smoke and music. When we say men, you're over 20. Because you don't have a brain to like 25 as a as a kid. Um, but you're over 20. It's scientifically proven. And it's it's perfectly acceptable. I've had some kids at the gym do some really dumb things, and I've had to be like, we're not at home, we're stopping doing that. And that should happen. And so I'll give some grace to teenagers because they just how they oh dude, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

All the grace to the guys. I mean, I've got kids at my house, I got teens coming through all the time. I've got I've got a 17-year-old living at my house, I've got a 21-year-old at my house, we've got an assortment of people coming through. We're always talking about similar subjects about women. You know, even earlier, um, Legend came through, some buddies, he was doing some chores here for me. Um, I noticed something not on him, not that he was doing, but that someone else likely had maybe had done. And I, you know, I text Legend and I just said, hey, I noticed such and such. I need you to stay legit. He knows what that means. Um, you know, we're paying attention to this stuff, but I'm gonna give the younger dudes a pass, not a pass from being taught about what this is about, a pass from tripping over these things. I mean, I don't expect these 20 and 21-year-old dudes to be walking around at the gym and other places and like not notice this stuff. But we, you know, we need to talk about. I will say, I want to tell a story real quick about a guy that I know. I'm gonna completely make this super anonymous, the whole situation, only because if I didn't, it would be very obvious who this person was. But I knew this guy, he had gone to um, he'd gone to trip with some people and um with some buddies, and they had noticed these girls were they were, you know, the the swimsuits were small. You know, the swimsuits were small. And they were asked, you know, what do you think about that? And he said, you know, of course I think it looks attractive. I just don't think that that I would want my wife to look like that. And what was going on there was was good. What he was trying to say is like, of course, I'm not gonna lie to you. Hot. She's hot. It is what it is. We don't have to get all weird and act like people aren't what they are, but transition to, but I just don't think I would want that to be my wife. You know, it's too much, it's too exposed, too, too not conservative, and and essentially he was explained to that it's their body and you know they can do what they want. Okay, fine. It is your body, and you can do what you want. Just don't hit us with all this nonsense later about how everyone's staring at you and objectifying you and saying inappropriate things to you and flirting with you. Miss us with that. You are asking for that. Just write it on your skin. Do not tell us that we don't get to do something you're asking people to do.

SPEAKER_01

I think that, but the bigger picture is um in a female, much to your point, um spoke out on this. She's like, Yeah, I could look that way, I could wear those things, and I didn't get the guy. The guy wanted to have sex with me, but I could never keep a guy. That's almost there, but so there they're still the but that's the reality, is you may have attention, but what you probably want in a caring, protective relationship, and that's what that man said, is if I was single, yes, that's attractive, but that's not I'm not gonna keep that. Because that that that demands the whole world's attention.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's not that's a temporary deal. You're just wanting to you want to go to that movie, you want to go to that show, but you don't want to buy it. You know, I mean, I'll check that out in a weak moment. You know, and for the men, we talk about what we're talking about with culture. What I would want with men is And again, we're coming to you guys with this subject matter not from like a place of being the end all be on every single topic. We're just trying to we're trying to march through it like where do we meet in the middle. We understand where we live at, the time we're living at. People want to live longer. With the want to live longer comes a industry in the health and beauty um side that really accentuates all levels of this. And you know, I'm not a no on everything. You know, I don't really care, guys, if if women get some Botox and whatnot. I don't care about that. I mean, Botox has a million other health benefits than what people are using it for. Should you go nuts to where it's like, wow, did you take all of their Botox? Probably not, because you look dumb. But can you get a moderate amount? Moderate again is a word I think we should use in a lot of areas of life as the moderation piece, a little bit to do this and that. Sure. Now, now I'll hear you on that. Like, it's your face. You kind of do what you want. What I get weird about in this health and beauty industry is like it spreads from our health, longevity. I mean, who doesn't want to live longer? A lot of people do. Who doesn't want to look younger for as long as they can? Everybody does. And when I hear people say they don't care about that, I'm like, ah, maybe you don't, maybe you do. But where we're getting to this piece is when it spreads from our physical appearance to what I would say is like the makeup of our heart. The makeup of what our heart is wanting to do in these moments. Where is it crossing the line to where you're it you're trading your self-respect, your identity for what you think people want to see for fleeting things.

SPEAKER_01

I'll put it back deeper. You know what I think is a big problem, Brian? You accidentally just said this a minute ago. I'm gonna reframe it a different way. What did you want to be when you grew up?

SPEAKER_00

Well, you know, people kind of laugh at this every once in a while. You know, two things I wanted to be. One was serious, one was a dream. I did want to play Major League Baseball. Um, and had, you know, I had some opportunities as I was getting older. I just never got completely big enough physically to do that. Um, but I always wanted to be a stand-up comedian. I thought it would be a really funny job to do. And I've I've stayed that way for all these years. I love comedy. A friend of mine, uh, her and I were watching the other night. She hadn't seen the Kings of Comedy. Dude, the Kings of Comedy is just ridiculous good. It's like 2005 or 6. It's Bernie Mack, it's uh Steve.

SPEAKER_01

Uh Rhett Bernie. Well, you get a lot of those jokes on the code. So funny comedians can are brilliant, but the good ones. Dad, what'd you want to be when you were growing up?

SPEAKER_02

Pro soccer player, but also like an astronaut.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So I thought astronauts, I still think astronauts are so cool. Like, I think space is like wicked cool, and I was never smart enough to pass the science classes to do all those things. So I wanted to be grew up in Sand Springs, Ontario, small town. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And I saw a lot of firemen, police officers, and they helped people. I want to be a fireman, if not a police officer. Um, and I played a lot of baseball. So if like if that worked out a professional baseball player, yeah. If we track this back, look at so my kid is watching all this stuff and he's thinking about his YouTube channel. And we start talking about what are we doing for others. Bro, that's the crisis. Yes, is people like you ask somebody in the generation below you thought, what do you want to be? And they're not anything. Content, they're trying to create content for the world of you. And then you walk over. I'm just gonna say it, Brian, because you weren't all out there. You have women that have put so much into their face they can't move it, and their lips are so big they can't feel them, and then they get button plants because their butt naturally won't grow that big. And so they take stomach fat and put it in their rear end, and you've lost anything about who you are because that's what society says you need to be. Because if I asked you what you wanted to be, you wouldn't be able to tell me. Like we grew up in an era where it was really cool to think about being the president or an astronaut or a doctor, a lawyer, professional baseball, anything career-wise.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Now everybody, if you ask them, well, there's so many kids that answer that question, you know, Cade's age, he's what, 12, 13? But they're all like YouTuber, like a toy tester. I'm like, nah, like, cool, yeah, there's a lot of good to that, but like there's also a lot of you know, good to being a professional athlete. And whether that professional athlete is being a baseball player or whatever, or if it's being an ultra marathon person like that has a following online, but they got the following because of their athletic abilities, not because of their own.

SPEAKER_01

When you build a skill set, kind of right to to have a career or a profession or the the the physicality to go into certain industries, firemen, police officers, sports athletes, whatever, there's a lot of discipline, teamwork, communication, physical need in those, right? Yes. So you've at least built things along the way. For sure. So if it doesn't work out, um, but what we have now, and Brian, you brought it up, if I'm setting up a camera and I've bought the software and spent a thousand hours for the right video to look at my right glute to get enough people to watch it to make so much money, right? And then where does it stop? Because that's not anything real. You don't have any value within yourself, you're not actually giving the world anything but lust. And so, since I don't do that, when when does it jump into OnlyFans? And at what point did I sell my soul? And how did I get stuck? And that's where this crap's going. And it and your heart should hurt for people. I'm not saying if you're in any of those, I'm not coming against you. That's just where society's at. And I would go back to the fact that if we asked them at one point, what did you want to be, or even the younger ones, what do you want to be? And there's the crisis. We don't have adults pouring into these kids like we used to with real careers.

SPEAKER_02

Well, and I think not to like bag on content creation at all. Because I think there's some people out there that totally got into it by mistake. I follow a guy online Well, the United States standards are terrible.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but I mean it's again, it's still our tamper.

SPEAKER_02

I follow a guy online who was he was a social media manager for like a fishing brand.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Well, he's kind of become his own deal because he's just got a magnetic personality, whatever. He loves the Indian buffet. Like, it's like ridiculous stuff, but it's like he now gets to go ask a bunch of crazy famous people, like, would you go to the Indian buffet with me? Like he took a Savannah Bananas baseball player to the Indian food buffet the other day, and it was like hilarious because like the guy was like, I've never been to an Indian buffet, like this is ridiculous. But he kind of got into it very naturally because he was like, I know how to like make stuff for this fishing brand, and like, you know, I'm I can connect with people in that realm, but like I like the Indian buffet too. Like I feel like that wasn't like a forced into it, it was like he had a couple of videos that went, you know, 300,000 views, and it's like, well, I gotta make some money off of that. Well, we talked about it. And he just it's like normal stuff, but he's like, I'm a fat lead, like I'm in shape, but I'm not in shape. Like if I need to go swim, I can go swim, and I'm not gonna be the slowest in the pool. But like, I'm not trying to like you know, he blurs out like even on him, and I'm like, he's just a dude in like some baggy shorts, like, but he does it right, and he blurs it out, and he gets in the water and stuff like that. And I'm like, you know, that's that's a good vantage point to go in. Because I mean, even though he's a dude and it's not like overly attractive, whatever, like I mean, he's like, you know, you're not seeing this.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it's authentic.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's very authentic.

SPEAKER_01

Like well, and then we talked about dude dad and a couple of the other things last week.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, there's tons of like funny ones like do perfect that's incredible, like whatever making clean content for. And there's so much that's they have a purpose.

SPEAKER_01

Riffraff. It's just riffraff. Well, in the riff raffs 30 seconds at a time. Yeah, it's a dopamine hit.

SPEAKER_02

It's all small hits. It's fueled by um it's small, it's fueled by our Amazon culture of like everything's gotta be there immediately.

SPEAKER_01

But it's also fueled by lust or greed or I mean it's fueled by one of the seven deadly sins. And people are eating it up in the United States like crazy. Yeah. Meanwhile, China, China, if you go look at their TikTok, they don't allow any of that stuff onto TikTok for their kids to consume. And what that turns into is warfare. We're emotionally unstable, we're dumber, we have less attention span, and the countries around us are building their kids up. That's not that's not awesome.

SPEAKER_02

Well, and to just, I mean, talk about other countries building their kids up in terms of like intellectual, intellectual and stuff like that. Like, we've gotten away from like let's go play outside in America. And like other countries like fully embrace like let's go play outside. Like, there's a ton of countries in Scandinavia and like you know, Eastern Europe that they don't even like test kids in school to like third, fourth grade. Like they don't take any tests. It'd be fun to like. And it's like crazy because you're like, oh my gosh, like are they not meeting standards? It's like their standards are like be a good human being, like be nice to your friends, like don't be a dick, like stuff like that. And like that's the standard of like, can you like identify stuff, but also can you like be in a human setting where you're gonna be like, Well, you're engaging in real life versus the one that's being created for you.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. So it's I mean, it's cool to be. What was your what was your whole take on the guy?

SPEAKER_00

You were getting ready to shift through some of the little comments here and there just to see if there was anything to to play with. Really, the comments are as expected, some good, some like weird, but I think I'll just swing right back into where I was gonna go with it is for the men, guys, think about the future that you want. Think about the presentation that you want. There is so many people that I know, um, women and men, but that the women present themselves, they're clearly attractive people. They're they have great aesthetics, but they have a way of bringing a presence to the room to where you just see them as pretty. You know, they don't have to draw attention to any one thing. Now, I'll also say, I get it, girl. Sometimes you can't help it. Sometimes you have such a look, you're just gonna bring attention to yourself. But that's where I shift to how do you carry yourself? How do you act? How do you move around the room, right? Yep. Look, I've seen some some tens. Lord, it's not your fault you were born a 10, and good for the guy, you know, you're hot. But there's a difference between how the conservative, respectable, very pretty girl moves around a room, and the girl who is also pretty and has great aesthetics, but just needs everyone to let her know that with their eyes, with their comments, with their attention. And there's just a major difference. So for the men, hey, think about the future on this thing. Think about who you're gonna go to places with, think about who you're gonna show up to to places with dates on. Um, how she's acting, if she needs that much attention on social media where her following is mostly strangers she's never met, or in places to where she doesn't even know the people, you best bet that when you're together with her, she is still gonna need that same attention. Having a committed relationship with you is not gonna shut off her need to be looked at. It just doesn't. I know I heard girls say all the time, well, when I'm in a relationship, I don't do this. Yes, you do. Yes, you do, because you're always going to do this. Having a relationship with a guy, even if he gives you an appropriate amount of attention, will never shut off your need to get everyone else's attention. That's a thing that's completely connected to something else going on with you, other than having a committed boyfriend or a marriage in place.

SPEAKER_01

If you so if you run a need to have attention and you succeed, right? No man is ever gonna give you that much attention. Like you've already gotten the measure of attention if that's what you're seeking, right? It let's say it's not good or bad. If I'm seeking attention and I put a picture up and I have a hundred and five guys comment on it immediately and put little flames or whatever next to their comments, right? And I'm in a relationship, I'm not gonna get that much attention from that one man. Because I've already like put a measure on it that's impossible for one person to fulfill. So there's an imbalance, but you're you're also just that's so surface because that's not what you actually want from a man, that's just where you've kind of trapped yourself.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and I'll tell you, I mean, guys, as we're talking through this and you start to think about how you want a relationship, how you want to be seen, how you want her to carry herself. If you have an attractive wife, people are always gonna look. That's not what we're talking about. We are they're always gonna look. It is what they're talking about.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, let's let's let's think about the the mindset of of people here. Are they moving from a place of confidence, knowing their worth, knowing who they are, or insecurity? Well, no, that's are they moving are they moving from a place where they came from a steady home with a dad and a father figure who cares about them and who you know told them what they were worth every day? Or are they coming from a house where it was like you're not good enough, you're not good enough, you're on anything.

SPEAKER_00

Unfortunately, you're one of the exceptions to the rule these days. I mean, I'll answer your question right there. I mean, 60 to 70 percent of them didn't have a dad telling them anything, so it's that simple. Um, I would think too. It's just yeah, and but that's the data you'll have to go off of.

SPEAKER_01

But that's where we're challenging like when Brian's just telling the the truth about where stuff is, and I'm going, hey, but what do you actually want from a man? Yeah, how do you want him to act? And I'll say it this way. Unfortunately, like guys want to compare uh and and women and the whole equality, women actually have the power in this. If women set a different standard, men will get in line because men are lost without women.

SPEAKER_00

I will you know, I had a a friend of ours, a girl, simplify this the other day to an analogy because she she was talking through this too. Um, pretty lady, never never has a need for attention in the way that's like I wonder if people are looking. They are, she's pretty. Um, but she said, you know, if I go to a like a kids' pool party or a family pool party, I'm likely gonna bring a one-piece swimsuit, or I'm gonna bring one of these tank top swimsuits. Just because um kids are there, other people's spouses are there. Um swimming is what it is. We wear swimsuits, right? It just is what it is. And I I hear people all the time being like, you can't wear that. I'm like, look, no matter what you wear, it's skin tight. Stop. Stop. I mean, you're we're gonna see stuff. This is why people's intentions are part of this too. But her point was is I'm gonna wear something that shows my my effort in presenting myself in a respectable way, in that I'm not asking for anything more than just to be here and be dressed respectfully and nothing weird. But, or if you go to Disney and you're at their pool, stuff like that, right? A place where it's mixed company. But then her point was, but she goes, if I go on a trip with my partner and we're going to Mexico or we're going to a beach, it's a it's a just us kind of thing, I'm probably gonna dress a little bit more, you know, bikini style, you know, we're gonna get a little more risque. Um, I'm down with that. I'm okay with that because I'm looking at the intentions. At the end of the day, if we're there, no matter what this girl's wearing, dudes are gonna look. So I don't even move on, I don't even move on from that. I don't care if guys look, I care how she responds to guys looking. See, if you're pretty, if you're attractive, no matter what they wear, people are looking. So it's all about intentions, responses, and reactions to me. If we're going on a thing where it's just us or whoever, I'm down with that. But if we're gonna be in mixed company or kids or something a little more family-oriented, dress appropriately, because I'm all about the fun. And I think what's happened, guys, in a lot of marriages too, by the way, especially in our very traditional landscape, is we haven't been able to figure out Christian marriages have not been able to figure out how to have fun. We're either too busy messing up everything, or we're too busy following so many rules that we don't understand that the wives, as much as you've convinced yourself they don't want to be a little bit silly and crazy sometimes, that's why you're missing, that's why you're losing it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they do they want to have fun and they want to be pretty. I mean, my wife, my wife and I deal with this all the time, but I mean, you know They want to feel attractive, right, Kill and they want to be pursued, but hopefully by you and what or their husband. And women are attractive. God made them attractive. That's why I hit up on men so so hard. Like, you're not supposed to be the attractive one, dude. If some you're supposed to be a protector, a provider, you're supposed to pursue her because she's the attractive thing. Like, um, and also no woman wants to compete with a man over pretty. By the way, that's just not how we're made. But when I deal with with my wife, and I don't like to talk about it a lot because most people don't have this relationship, they just don't. She'll come out and ask. And I was like, Well, babe, that thing looks nice. And she's like, Yeah, but it shows, I was like, it shows your back. You're fine. Like, my wife is is very conservative, but we go on some trips or go to a show when I have a cyber summit, she'll fly down on me and we have a blast, and we go out, and yeah, she'll wear some things that are a little not um not as zipped up as they normally are for her at those places because her intention is we're out on a date, right? All that to say, and this is is what goes without saying, depending on how you present yourself in a nonverbal way and how you move in a nonverbal way, we can always see it too. And so when you're aligned to get attention from a room, not from the person you're with, um, and that's what you were saying earlier, Brian. We always know, and that's what gives off a whole different vibe. You're not trying to set yourself up for success in the environment you're in, you're so in in lack in the wrong place for attention from the wrong people because you haven't had it in the right place, and that's okay. It's just realizing it that that's the vibe you're giving off. But what I know that your heart wants, because I've talked to so many women with all the men's ministry stuff, the ins and outs and stuff, and just asking questions, you want that right guy. And what we're saying on the woman front is if you put yourself in an intentional way around the parties and the different things to be buttoned up in a certain way, guys will see that, and they're going after you as a long-term deal, not a one-nighter.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think it's all about it's so much more about how you know you said it while ago, women have the control in this, and I think some of them know that, but a lot of them don't really know that. Men will really um march to the beat of their drum. We don't always show that we are, but in the end, we we really are waiting to see how they're responding. I mean, think of every example of texting a woman, complimenting her, asking her out. Every single part of this design is like set up for us to sit and wait on what the results are gonna be from them. It's no different than how they're gonna appear in front of us physically. It's all about them controlling how we're going to kind of respond and react to what they're presenting to us, right? And then we're essentially gonna see, okay, what works, what's gonna get her, what's gonna get this girl interested in me, or what's gonna get her to kind of um engage with me on whatever it is that we're trying to do. And I think for men, when it just really still boils down to it, look, you can make this so much easier. Who do you want to be seen with? Who do you want to be seen with? Because if you're with that one girl, probably other dudes are gonna go, I've had her already. I swear at the gym, guys, I swear. I've got a couple of guys I talked to in the locker room, and they'll talk about this girl or that girl, and in my mind I'm always like, Yeah, you and everybody else.

SPEAKER_01

You and everybody else. Well, and those are the guys you'll attract. You know, for a young kid who does this really well from a guy's side, like we talk about how a guy's supposed to be, Aiden, stepson, he's an incredibly athletic, attractive young man at like 20 something, and he is clueless about it. And just a good-hearted kid. And he's not trying to dress what I mean about that is Aiden is somebody Aiden is somebody that could put himself together and worry about how pretty he was in the mirror and then go out. That's a different kid now. He's just gonna be aloof and get in a relationship, and it's gonna be a lot better than him trying to compete with her. That to me is so weird for a dude. Aiden's just a guy.

SPEAKER_02

Well, and I think Aiden is very comfortable in his own skin too. And I think sometimes as dudes, like people just aren't comfortable in who they are, and but like Aiden's very like, this is who I am. Like, I'm this way if the lights are on, if the lights are off, I don't care. Like, this is who I am, and and I love Aiden. I mean, Aiden sat at my desk for a year with me every single day, and like yeah, he's just like this is who I am.

SPEAKER_01

That's how it's kind of like hey, let me give you a let me give you. Yeah. I'm out in an OU game, young kid, great, great looking. And I don't mean it in a weird way. I'm really glad I'm not a great looking kid. You know? And so this is another attractive person. He came up and broke down and said, These girls throw themselves at me and I drink and I can't help myself. And he said, Now I'm addicted and I don't know how to get out. And so he's just running through women. And he doesn't want it, but he's trapped because he's put on this insecure thing and and the need for attention. Now he's got the attention, does the wrong thing with it, and he doesn't know who he is or how to be. And so it ends up being the same problem and crisis for him that it is for the girls, and they're fighting each other, right? And that's just not that's not gonna be successful on either front. Still don't agree with Aiden's shorts. That's just the new trend of everybody wears shorts that are like soccer shorts now.

SPEAKER_02

Aiden loves a good three-inchin team. Loves it. Listen, boys, well we gotta limit this though to five. We've got to we gotta I do five. I do five. That's his style now. Every day, every day, five. Like, I can I don't go longer, but yeah, five is for me. But Aiden loves a good three-inch in team. He's like, he's like, let's make it happen.

SPEAKER_01

Let's show up the tents. Brian's got some shorts, right? We're over. We watched a ball game, and Brian's like, hey, let's hit the pool. And I had to borrow some shorts. And my wife said later, she's like, because all mine are like what we used to wear. Probably they're probably five. Probably five or seven inches or whatever. Yeah, the seven-inch shorts or whatever. And she's like, Hey, the ones that are like like at your thigh, so I can see like like the bottom of your thigh muscle. Like you actually have shit. Oh, like, okay. So, but I still like like the new style for the teenage kids is like up there.

SPEAKER_02

No, dude, we gotta get them on some those free ballers that we like. The one the the ones that use free ballers.

SPEAKER_01

As long as you call it a different word, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Well, that's literally that's the brand name. That's the brand name. It's called free ballers, but they got a liner in them, like you don't have to wear nothing. They're nice, and like you could wear, I mean, they have a million prints and like a million whatever, but they're like the best in their five, six-inch shorts. Your wife would love them. They go with polos, they go with t-shirts. They're awesome shorts. Like I got Brian on them, and he probably has eight pairs now.

SPEAKER_01

As long as my jeans touch my shoes. Brian went up to prison with us at one time showing his ankles, and like some of the guys were winking at it.

SPEAKER_00

Some of them boys are like now that it's summertime. I'm definitely gonna break out a few more of my my uh pants.

SPEAKER_01

Hey, but Tiff, what are those called that women can wear? Where they're like three-quarter pants. Capris. Capris. Yeah, Brian has capri jeans. And it's just great. They work on you to get them.

SPEAKER_00

They're gonna be as tight as they can be, two boys. Just seeing the outline of that.

SPEAKER_02

No, no. The calves that's so weird about it. Oh, you you said the outline and stuff and just looked away and just waited for me to waited for me to react. Just waited.

SPEAKER_01

I just think he likes your reaction. Oh, he loves it.

SPEAKER_02

He loves it.

SPEAKER_01

I think yeah, the deeper meaning here though, right, is we're all adults and we end up in a lot of social groups. And and let's just say this, let's let's bring it home this way. Brian, how many unhappy people do you know where relationships just keep falling apart for them?

SPEAKER_00

Well, guys, that's that one's so simple, too. I mean, what we're talking about here is no one here is saying they don't like pretty girls or hot girls. I mean, we're not dumb. We want to say that women don't like attractive men. And yeah, and yeah, that women don't like attractive men. We're we're really more talking about nothing. You're over six foot one, I heard, by the way.

SPEAKER_01

Huh? That's like the thing for girls, though.

SPEAKER_00

Look, we've disproven that time after time, but we're not gonna get into those percentages and statistics.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, the Alexanders. I'll roll those.

SPEAKER_00

Just walking in. Look, I'll tell you this right now. I'm not afraid of that. I'm not afraid of her at 5'12 or 13 or whatever it is. So, but the heart of the issue is this thing. We're not hammering after own an insurance company at all. We're not hammering on tens, okay? If you're a 10, you're a 10. A guy or girl. And I know tens on both sides that I have extremely good relationships with that are just good people. The genetics are just on point. They're there, and happy and I'm happy for them. Um, we're not talking about that because a lot of times some of that part you can't even control. So, like girls who are getting weird about this, look, dude, you're hot.

SPEAKER_02

Here's the deal we're not hammering on tins, we're hammering on how no, it's not even hammering on that. It's we're talking about protect the treasure that you have. If you're a tin, protect it. Well, we can show the world you're actually valuable. Show you show the world what they need to see.

SPEAKER_00

Well, when we're out there looking, not what they want to see. The right people on both sides of the issue will see the physical first. But always, if they're doing it the right way, thinking about long-term things, thinking about what's gonna have the best propensity to work, they're looking on through their attraction, which is fine and it's necessary, to the heart, to the heart position, right? They we're we we need to see what the heart looks like. If the heart is showing like goodness and showing um the need to, you know, pursue purity, um, no one's gonna be completely pure. Pursue. Pursue trying to do it the right way, then the aesthetics are gonna be what they are. It's it's really how they're moving around the room, how they move around in their life, how they present themselves. Because again, I don't want to get into the semantics of which tank top sports bra combo is acceptable. Because that's what the weirdos will do. It's no different than talking to if you ever guys ever have been out on the streets or whatever, and you meet someone who says they just don't believe in God or whatever, that conversation's never freaking over. It's never over. They are designed to argue until you die. In that conversation, simply with hey, we don't agree on this, but here's what I do agree on you. I love you no matter what. I'm here for you no matter what. If you want to discuss anything specific, I'm happy to do that. But most people in that position are looking to argue you to death, which is not the game. These people are going to do the same. I don't want to argue which outfit. What I want to argue on is, or not even really argue, I want to present the idea that, hey, if you walk in the gym, and maybe you're wearing something maybe a little bit on the edge, but you're moving respectfully. Your responses and reactions have nothing to do with this. Maybe your clothes were all dirty. Lord, I'm not gonna judge you over this thing. I'm talking about people that have to make this their pattern, make this their day-to-day, make this their every post, make this their every single interaction, is just begging the world, complete strangers who don't know them at all, for attention. It becomes what I'm talking about. It becomes your worth if they're if you're not careful. That's all you care about. So, girls or gym people, look, I'm not hammering down on I know some girls that sometimes, Lord, dude, some of these people, I know a girl once, she'll be in sweatpants and a sweatshirt some days. Sometimes this girl will roll in in the tank top bra thing with the little shorts. She's not looking for attention. She's got no makeup on, hairs everywhere. I'm not talking about you. I'm not talking about you. Do I like that outfit on that day? Eeeh. You know, we're gonna get more looks. You do. But I I know this person well enough by the way they present themselves. This isn't about them trying to get attention. It was a it was a day they were rushing out. They're they're right in the middle on this issue. They're they're kind of modern day, so they're like, eh, I don't really care what I wear. I I'm I can get down with those people. I've started to focus way more on the the actual heart and intention of the people doing this thing. Men too. Dudes, if you're over there in the mirror, shirt off, in your wife's shorts, making live videos for TikTok, you're gay.

SPEAKER_01

The shirt off thing, too. I don't mean it a weird way. We had a guy do that at um Vasa, and not now. I mean, not in my 40s. I could probably still outlift him. But back in the day at his age, if you're gonna do that, lift some weight. You bet you better be able to move over 400 pounds on a bench press if you think you're something.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I ain't I ain't never moving over 400 pounds right now.

SPEAKER_01

But yeah, the person doing it, right? Yeah. To Brian's point, these 20-year-old kids they've got some chemical in them that can't move 100-pound dumbbells like they're weightless, which you should be able to at that size. Hey, baby, I'm five yesterday. They got their shirt off everywhere. It's just not a manly thing.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, you better be strangling a dadgum dragon in this TikTok video, or you're gay. And that's fine. That's fine. I don't care. Gay, not gay, don't care, but tell your wife you're gay. Because if you're up there TikToking shirtless with goose lips or duck lips or whatever, G-A-Y, tell your wife, get into counseling, and figure this thing out. Um, or bring a black bear, strangle him to death in your TikTok, and I'll go, hey, we're good here. That's manly as can be. So I'm fine with all of it as long as the heart position is right. Anything else on this, Thad?

unknown

No.

SPEAKER_02

Just wear clothes at the gym. Just wear nor like normal clothes. Like it's cool to wear normal clothes. Wear clothes in general.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, yeah, also like wear clothes in general, like well, don't be a victim of culture. Everybody's competing, right? And I and I understand, like, there are situations where like less clothes is better. And I'm gonna say this as a runner who runs when it's freaking hot outside. There are times when less clothes is better. But you know what I've found that I prefer to wear running the tank top over the no-shirt. And I love running no shirt because I'm like, this is so f so great, but like the tank top catches the sweat, which makes me cool, like, which in turn makes me cooler. And it's whatever. Hey, it's not matter.

SPEAKER_01

Brian wear clothes really well. It's appropriate. Like, it's so here's the difference, Thad, that Brian was making. I can see a guy on a hot day in shorts running with a shirt off. I won't think two seconds about it. If you go into the gym on the treadmill and take your shirt off and start running, that's what's happening. Appropriate appropriate outfits for appropriate sports. If you're gonna go run 10 miles on the concrete.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And and the thing is, the girls that run in the sports bra, do what you want to do outside. If it's if they outside, it is no different than them being at the pool in their bikini top.

SPEAKER_00

It is no different than that. Yeah, I got no problem. You know, when you're going running um and you're going running for a distance.

SPEAKER_02

If you're doing that in the gym, if they're like walking in, pulling the shirt off, there's the there's the issue. If they're outside doing it outside when it's 80 degrees, do what you need to do.

SPEAKER_01

I still think it'll be. I will say when you came back in on the Vegas streets, you look like you worked harder than me. I I was in an air conditioned gym, killed it. I mean, Brian did like 87 circuits next to me. He's going. I still think upstairs, and I was like, you look exhausted.

SPEAKER_00

I still think really this comes down to you know, heart issues, the way you want to present yourself. It really becomes right there, right on the screen for us what you're trying to do. I mean, even take that we're talking about the runner, right? Yeah you know, I don't mind. I'm like you, Dad. If the girl's going out, she's a runner, I know some, and this is what they do daily. They're gonna be wearing tight shorts, they're gonna be wearing a sports bra because you're trying to run for distance, you're trying to run for time, you don't want your clothes weighing you down, being all soggy and wet and weird. Totally get it, and I'm totally fine with it. But then take a lady who's maybe a little more endowed in certain areas, just wearing a basic little thing, knowing 100% there's no support, there's no athletic support there at all, yeah. You're being weird, and we know you're being weird because they make stuff for that.

SPEAKER_02

I I'm just trying to preface like I'm the runner here, I understand what we're doing with the gym and whatever, but like, yeah, if you're outside running, doing it, and you're in the sports bra and in the short shorts, whatever, it's no different than being at the pool in the bikini. I was praying over a couple guys, girls last night. Because that's like great. I agree. You're making it happen.

SPEAKER_01

So I was praying over a couple girls last night at the Force Frank concert. I had my daughters. How was that? By the way, it was incredible.

SPEAKER_02

So fun.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he just looked so fun. I mean, he straight up said, like, I don't even want to do this. God said the harvest is plenty, get out and do some work. And he's like, it's not my goal to like entertain, but he um he had a song about prayer and said, if you need prayer, stick out your hand. He said, if you don't have your hand sticked out, go put your hand on on somebody. And I could feel like when we pray for people, there's two like 15, 16 year old girls next to us just crushed. And I could feel the weight of both of them make up just different things, like trying to compete with the world. And you know, I know religion can be a hard thing. We're very clear that we love Jesus, but scripture is very clear that your identity as a daughter or a son comes from God, not the world, and you have more value. And the value is not the skin. You have more value than all that he created, and you know, that's what's hard is even if just when you put something on ask why you did, because if it didn't start out as a heart issue, if you start trying to compete with the world, it's gonna end up as a heart issue.

SPEAKER_00

Well, these people that are a little bit older, you know, 35 and up doing this nonsense. I'm gonna kind of shift gears off of them. They've made up their mind where they're lacking, and hopefully someone can help them with that. I I'll shift down to the younger person and be like, you know, girls too. Hey, when you see these women doing this and you're seeing this on social media and you think that's what's what, just know it's not. It's not. Look, I and it's not fulfilling. Well, look, look at the logistics of this thing, look at the facts. That girl's single. That girl's single. She's 30 something, 40 something. She's still doing that for a reason, my friend. She's still doing that because good high value men aren't perfect. They're gonna look. They might even uh might even, you know, give it a little bit of time. But they are absolutely usually never gonna make that a permanent thing because no high value, respectable man wants a girl out flaunting herself everywhere for attention all the time. A good high-value man is gonna have an attractive woman who knows she's attractive, doesn't need a bunch of strangers telling her so, and doesn't miss any attention. These girls that are really pretty but still walk, act, and move in a conservative, respectable, sexy, pretty way, still get all the dadgum attention. They get all the attention the other girls get, they just get actual, real, authentic attention. The thirst trappers, that attention they're getting, it's not real, it's not authentic, it's fleeting, it's fake, and it's temporary, and it goes nowhere.

SPEAKER_01

And I'll too of not all the time, but I've been around this, and it can really hurt you, is if your identity is in all that beauty, right? And external validation for women is so if somebody's listening, because I know you'll get some comments from women, think about it like this, because I've met women that do this. I have some gym friends, and that is their life. And they talk about chicken and salt on chicken and rice, and a woman is so turned off by never being able to talk to him about anything else but what he's gonna eat to stay lean, they can't stand life. Oh man, there's nothing else the guy wants to talk about. And so you're limited, and like, what are you guys gonna talk about? Man, like, have some depth to you.

SPEAKER_02

This is hilarious because I saw somebody. Was it a protein reel? No, it was somebody make some protein. We should make protein reels, that'd be hilarious. But um, this guy, like it was like a double date, whatever, husband and wife, husband and wife. This guy, huge arms, like only could see him probably from here up, chest up, which is probably a bodybuilder, which was fine. But they're at a restaurant, and he goes, Here's what I need you to tell the the chef to to make. I need you to tell him to make me 10 to 12 ounces of grilled chicken. Tell him that I'm allergic to butter, I'm allergic to oils, I'm allergic to everything. And then I also need six to eight ounces of rice measured out. Tell him I'm allergic to oil, tell him I'm allergic to butter again. And the wife's like, the wife's going, what are we doing here? This is a date. You can have a cheat meal. Like you don't stay. And he was like nerds. He's freaking nerds. Yeah, we can do the same thing with the bottle.

SPEAKER_00

I'll tell you right now, shaker bottles Oh, give me every shaker bottle. This is where it comes like, and I'm willing right now, you know where I'm gonna be later. If you're a shaker bottle and you want to get down about me making fun of shaker bottles, let's do it. I will go down anytime and fight, or we'll we'll wrestle it out right there over a shaker bottle anytime. I'm not afraid of a shaker bottle, because one thing I know about shaker bottles is you are P-U-S-S-Y's. Period.

SPEAKER_02

But I want to get back to not if you have a shaker bottle. This is a generalized gym. This is a generalized bottle. You're gonna be a good thing. You're just not just getting choked.

SPEAKER_01

Hey, taking a drink. Bye. Whatever. Listen. Bye to you, you're getting choked. If the carbon and the BCAs aren't in every 20 minutes, you're just done. The lifts are no good.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I will tell you guys, and this is what's unfortunate about this, because really at the end of the day, we really do care and love all people as much as we possibly can because we know that people operate in these ways, just like we make mistakes. I do. It's coming from a place of gap, a place of loss, trauma, um, misconception. It's all connected to something. And so this weird um dress um costume conversation is connected to something. It's not like, oh, these people are so horrible and bad. That's not what we're trying to say. In fact, the person who sent me that very reel was Jody. And she said her comment was, I think this would be a good topic. She goes, because Jody's one, one of the most loud and demonstrative people I know, personality-wise. Love her, but you know what I mean. She's not quiet. She didn't call it exactly how it is. Jody is gonna say it exactly how it is.

SPEAKER_01

She's gonna call balls and strikes.

SPEAKER_02

There's no filter, and it's straight to the point.

SPEAKER_00

I would say too, as important as all that, Jody's um approach and her demeanor about certain subjects is gonna be a little more liberal. And that's why this is this is confirmation and makes sense that if someone with Jody's demeanor, her personality, her pretty wide open scape, and that's what makes Jody. Jody, it's fun and cool, and it's an attractive personality for her. But this right here, when you when she makes an opinion that I actually agree with this, this is getting out of hand, you know there's something to that because generally someone with Jody's makeup in the way that she would approach these situations is ah, whatever, people can wear whatever they want, but for some reason that video actually tied into something in her that thought, man, this is connected to something not as good. I think there's something to that when one, the video is a nice looking, attractive woman having this opinion. Number two, the person that sends this is also an attractive, pretty woman who understands that wow, how do we you know, even sometimes Jody gets a little wild and crazy and has fun with it and wouldn't be always considered the most modest person in the world. But when she can actually sit down for a second and go, but man, this is leading somewhere that it's taken us somewhere that's not great.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, she's modest in humor, though, through what she's gone through. What I will say when you talk about people that consistently show up in life, because I've known this person for years, it's gotta be we talked about this the other day. We have a couple people we know. Jody's dressed up really nice and gone out with easy and not been risque at all. And then she's also like we're watching the fight, so she comes with her husband and has jeans and a big shirt on. Like, we know, we know a couple people that can't go to breakfast or on a sun like on a Saturday at 10 with a bunch of people in pajamas without being on their best. They'll never show up anywhere without an hour worth of work to leave.

SPEAKER_00

Well, as we're having this conversation, I can think right now of three situations of people that would fit the criteria of what we're kind of talking about with the gym cringe. All three in the last six months have been wrapped up, engaged with, caught with, someone else's husband or or someone else's engaged partner. So back to my point, young ladies.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's feeding the need for attention.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, back to my point, young ladies. There's a reason why they're posting it up still at the age that they're at, trying to get strangers' attention. You're pretty pretty already. What they don't realize, not necessary. I see girls that don't do anything near that gives just as much attention, but the difference is it's the kind of attention. See, a high value man, or even just a freaking guy that really doesn't even understand value yet, he's gonna see the hot one that's being weird, and and there's one side of him is gonna want that. The flesh. But then he's gonna see the other one just as pretty, but moving in a more like in a way that it's more respectable, and it's having a um a very High opinion of herself because see, this girl over here is also seeking out people, and a lot of these women are being told, hey, you're made this way, be unapologetically yourself, and all this stuff. All they're trying to say is, hey, I'm really hurt and traumatized too, and this is this is going to get you attention. But this one over here is gonna say, What I've learned is that I'm not gonna give everyone full access to me.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, the right guys, like if you put yourself together well, because we can Brian, what you're saying is guys can read it. And safe guys will pursue women that put themselves together right, and then unsafe guys that present themselves as safe will be predators to women that are insecure.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I um, you know, we gotta we gotta hang it up, but I I I kind of want to just end it with saying, you know, young people, find someone that doesn't just look how you want to look when you get older, find someone that maybe is also moving around a little bit how you want to see your life. You know, women, you know, find a lady that is acting in a way to where there's something we gotta talk about safe people there's something about the way that older person, that mentor style person is moving, and get with them and learn from them and find out things from them that will help you kind of start to find some direction in your life. If you see a lady that's thirst trapping everybody and then trying to justify the reasons why they're doing it because they're just being themselves, don't do that because that's where you'll end up. Yeah, that's where you'll end up. It's the same thing. Uh men, there's no reason. I mean, that's the same reason, guys, why when we start to talk about mentorships, do you guys ever um go pursue the guy that maybe he's attractive but he got no money, got no security, got no job, got no career, got no direction, but he's good looking. Not me. When I was looking, and still when I look for mentorships, I'm looking for security, I'm looking for consistency. I'm looking for when I'm talking about a mentorships, right?

SPEAKER_01

I knew about the genes. Yes, we're talking about mentorships. Mentorships. I'm bringing some clarity to what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, not physically like that. But you know what? I'm looking for someone that has something that I might want to pursue as it becomes their career, the way they move around, the way they treat people, the way they're treated, the way people treat them. See, the way you get treated by people is the sum of your influence. People don't understand influence. You can look at influence by the amount of people that are attracted to a person in some certain way. It's it's part of the algorithm. Look for that kind of stuff. I mean, that's why when I say if if you're looking at that, just that one girl doing that, and you think that because she's hot and got um a thousand likes to her thirst traps, find out where she lives, what she has, what she's doing, where she's going. If you find out it's all brokenness, temporary stuff, going nowhere, and all she's got is the Hottie Tottdy 10 with a thousand likes on it, and she's making $31 from Facebook posting traps.

SPEAKER_01

I think on the guy side of the thing, too, we can talk about this. Um, I run into it a lot. There's some really good guys out there and they get in a relationship and the the woman ends up picking another guy and they can't figure out why. And it's nothing, and and especially because you see this all the time too, guys will say out loud, well, he's not as attractive as me or strong, whatever that thing is, right? Yeah, but he knows where he's going, he has a plan, he's decisive. Women have to feel some security because you're responsible for that as a man. So when they're ready to settle down, there's things that men are responsible for, and there's a lot of great guys that don't have those pieces together. That's that's another reason you gotta get with a bunch of guys that are heading the direction you want to that are in front of you, um, because they can help you out with those things. And back to it, Thad, you said it, a lot of this stuff, listen, we're just we're stating where the culture's at and how things can hurt you. Um, but a lot of you didn't have these resources growing up, but they are out there if you pursue them.

SPEAKER_00

Well, we gotta tie it down. Um we've reached our time limit today.

SPEAKER_01

You gonna say the whole little spill where you change voices?

SPEAKER_00

Pay-per-view's gonna shut us off. We want to tell you guys pay-per-view.

SPEAKER_02

Dang, I didn't realize we were on that.

SPEAKER_00

It's the same thing.

SPEAKER_01

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SPEAKER_00

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SPEAKER_01

Yeah, Father, we just thank you, Lord, and all this is so socially relevant and our hearts and some kind of culture.