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The Things We’d Say (If We Didn’t Care What People Think)

Jess Whatman & Hermione Gardiner Episode 17

This week’s episode is part therapy session, part business banter—and let’s be honest, that’s how we like it.

In between mushroom drops in the drink bottle and questionable kids’ Spotify picks, Jess and Hermione go deep on the questions we don’t usually ask out loud. The kind of questions that make you pause mid-scroll and go, “Oof. That’s me.”

We’re talking about showing up more, playing small, VA misconceptions, setting boundaries, and what our businesses would say if they came with a warning label (spoiler: ours would definitely come with fine print).

This one’s quickfire-style, slightly unhinged at times, and full of juicy prompts that’ll make you rethink how you’re showing up in your biz right now.

In this episode, we unpack:

  • What we’d do if we weren’t worried about being judged 👀
  • Our most irrational “business icks” (real estate edition)
  • Where we’re still playing small (and why)
  • Workaholism vs. wanting to lie in the sun with zero pings
  • Boundaries we’re setting... and breaking
  • The fantasy weekend with no kids, clients, or chaos
  • What success looks like now vs. five years ago

Quickfire questions we asked each other:

  • What’s your “ick” in business you’d never admit out loud?
  • Where are you still playing small—and what’s behind it?
  • If your business had a warning label, what would it say?
  • What boundaries are you trying (and failing) to hold?
  • Dream weekend: No chaos, no clients. What’s on your 48-hour wishlist?
  • How has your definition of success shifted?

Chapters: 

[00:00] Welcome Back: Hair Comments & Hydrolite Mums
[04:00] The Things We’d Say If We Didn’t Care What People Thought
[08:00] VA Misconceptions, Industry Icks & Staying Authentic
[13:00] Playing Bigger: Mindset, Growth & Hiring Boldly
[20:00] Boundaries, Burnout & Night Owl Boss Habits
[25:00] Dream Weekends, Banisters, and Uber Eats Escapes
[29:00] Redefining Success (And Thinking Bigger Than Survival)

💭 This one’s for the business owner juggling the big vision, the guilt, the growth... and the school run. You’re not alone, and you’re doing better than you think.

🎧 Tune in, answer the questions for yourself, and send this to a biz bestie who’s also trying to figure it all out.

With your hosts:
Jessica Whatman – founder of AgentSync, the best VA company in Australia
Hermione Gardiner – real estate biz coach and founder of Sidekick, the best property management consultant in Australia

✨ Connect with us:

🎧 The Podcast: here
📱 AgentSync: www.agentsync.com.au
📱 Sidekick: www.sidekick.net.au